| Laney | OK, maybe I'll do that. The reason I need it is because we want to install the examples on Debian but not have them built | 00:00 |
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| directhex | Laney, check out my epic new debian/copyright for ikvm | 00:02 |
| Laney | directhex: svn? | 00:02 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: I can't find anything saying that the encoding line is deprecated. | 00:03 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: Nothing offica | 00:03 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: Nothing official, I mean. | 00:03 |
| Laney | murrayc_: let me see, it was just lintian that told me | 00:03 |
| Laney | murrayc_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/98635/ | 00:04 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: It's OK. I found it: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/1.0/apc.html | 00:05 |
| Laney | that's the one | 00:05 |
| murrayc_ | Laney: It was just that that standard didn't mention the deprecation elsewhere when mentioning the key. | 00:05 |
| directhex | Laney, of course svn! | 00:06 |
| Laney | directhex: I like the "Not bloody stated" license - think I'll start using that | 00:06 |
| directhex | Laney, i've mailed the original debianizer to ask him what he actually wanted to use | 00:07 |
| directhex | Laney, personally i'm all for WTFPL | 00:07 |
| Laney | tell him I won't fix his podsleuth bug if he doesn't reply | 00:07 |
| Laney | and then I'll set fire to his iPod | 00:07 |
| directhex | ehm... it's the same guy? | 00:07 |
| Laney | john goerzen right? | 00:08 |
| directhex | why, yes! | 00:08 |
| directhex | what a small world | 00:09 |
| Laney | leverage! | 00:09 |
| directhex | hm. do i want to play gears of war, with its chainsaw bayonets, or rock band, with its far more deadly six-stringed axe play? | 00:13 |
| crimsun | geez, 200 MB of build-dependencies just to generate a debdiff. | 00:44 |
| crimsun | if it weren't for RAOF's bug, i wouldn't even have to touch texmacs! | 00:45 |
| NCommander | hey directhex | 00:49 |
| directhex | hm? | 00:59 |
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| The_Kid123 | Hi all, I'm looking to somehow get involved in helping with Ubuntu development. I've used ubuntu heavily since 7.10, but I intermittently used snce 6.06. I don't really know where specificly I'd like to help, but I'm interested in OS components from the command-line down, be it init scripting, installers, or wherever I could be of help. I'm willing to learn what I don't yet know. I'll start being on here more, so hopefully the appropriate person will | 05:31 |
| bobbo | The_Kid123: hey :) | 05:32 |
| bobbo | The_Kid123: the best place to start is by reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted | 05:32 |
| The_Kid123 | alright, thanks | 05:32 |
| bobbo | The_Kid123: also, when you want to get started on some real bugfixing, we have a list of easy to fix bugs for new contributors @ https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize | 05:33 |
| The_Kid123 | great, let me say that i'll be glad to be part of a ubuntu team | 05:34 |
| bobbo | we'll be glad to have you, we are always looking out for new contributors | 05:35 |
| The_Kid123 | if I check a package, would I want to start looking for fixes in the deloper's most recent version, or stick with the version ubuntu uses? | 05:38 |
| bobbo | The_Kid123: you want to be looking at the latest version of the package | 05:42 |
| bobbo | the easiest way is to replace the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list with the current development version | 05:42 |
| bobbo | then you can apt-get source <packagename> to get the packages source | 05:43 |
| The_Kid123 | alright | 05:43 |
| The_Kid123 | thanks | 05:43 |
| The_Kid123 | peace, everyone, esp u bobbo, I'm retiring | 05:43 |
| nhandler | bobbo: They can also use the pull-lp-source script from ubuntu-dev-tools | 05:43 |
| bobbo | nhandler: oh, didn't know that existed | 05:44 |
| * bobbo goes to look | 05:44 | |
| nhandler | There is also a pull-debian-source script | 05:45 |
| lidaobing | help review: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=fqterm | 06:15 |
| lidaobing | thanks | 06:15 |
| lidaobing | help review: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ibus-table, thanks | 07:20 |
| lidaobing | I got an error when archive: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/?archive=3889, error infomation in http://paste.ubuntu.com/98827/ | 07:23 |
| wikz | Hi, I uploaded my package with the ppa versioning and changelog which I shouldn't have. How do I rectify it ? | 07:48 |
| Hobbsee | to where? | 07:53 |
| wikz | revu | 07:53 |
| Hobbsee | just upload another one, and it'll overwrite it | 07:54 |
| Hobbsee | iirc | 07:54 |
| wikz | Hobbsee: cool thanks | 07:54 |
| rexbron | If any motu's have a spare moment to review my package I would greatly appreciate it. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libffado | 07:57 |
| mib_f6bol3ak | hi | 10:14 |
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| shankhs | hi | 10:16 |
| tuxmaniac | it would be great to see someone review gresistor for Jaunty again. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gresistor | 10:32 |
| tuxmaniac | thanks in advance | 10:32 |
| hanska | woot, my first sync request :) | 10:43 |
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| shankhs | hi | 11:25 |
| tacone | i am getting this on a pdebuild: Unmet build dependencies: cdbs (>= 0.4.49) | 12:28 |
| tacone | my pbuilder is an intrepid one, with all repos enabled (cdbs is in the main, btw) | 12:28 |
| tacone | any help ? | 12:29 |
| maxb | tacone: How odd. Perhaps if you paste your entire build session on a pastebin, someone might spot something? | 12:47 |
| vorian | morning | 13:20 |
| Laney | howdy vorian | 13:20 |
| vorian | hi Laney, how's things? | 13:21 |
| Laney | not bad, just updating the copyright file for glom (fun for me!), yourself? | 13:21 |
| vorian | just starting the day :) | 13:22 |
| tacone | maxb: oddly, i had to install cdbs on my host system. after that, pbuilder worked. | 13:49 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 13:52 |
| iulian | Hiya bddebian. | 13:57 |
| bddebian | Hi iulian | 13:59 |
| bddebian | iulian: I lost my connection, can you shoot me the git-core URL again? | 13:59 |
| iulian | bddebian: Aye, http://alioth.debian.org/~iulian-guest/git-cola_1.3.4.4-1.dsc | 14:06 |
| bddebian | Thx | 14:07 |
| iulian | Thank you. | 14:08 |
| * iulian -> lunch | 14:08 | |
| Laney | sebner: ping? | 14:10 |
| StevenK | Ah ha. I can't look up thc.emanuele-gentili.com because the domain name has expired. | 14:20 |
| * Laney squats it | 14:20 | |
| StevenK | It isn't mine, it's emgent's | 14:21 |
| * Laney nods | 14:21 | |
| * Laney knows who to extort | 14:21 | |
| StevenK | Hehe | 14:21 |
| Laney | Expiration Date: 01-dec-2008 | 14:22 |
| StevenK | Oh, so he's had a month | 14:23 |
| bddebian | iulian: Uploaded | 14:24 |
| iulian | bddebian: Thanks again. | 14:25 |
| bddebian | No, thank YOU :) | 14:25 |
| bddebian | Now I'm off to my daughters gymnastics, later folks | 14:25 |
| iulian | Have fun. | 14:26 |
| quadrispro | hi bobbo! | 14:39 |
| quadrispro | anyone on bug #311114 ? | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 311114 in ikiwiki "Please merge ikiwiki 3.00 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/311114 | 14:48 |
| iulian | quadrispro: You obviously forgot to mention the bug number in the changelog. | 14:58 |
| quadrispro | iulian: done | 14:59 |
| james_w | quadrispro: has the issue been forwarded to Debian? | 15:00 |
| quadrispro | no, because that issue is due to Ubuntu policy | 15:01 |
| quadrispro | and there's this bug too -> bug #313477 | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 313477 in cmus "Please merge cmus 2.2.0-3 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313477 | 15:05 |
| CarlFK | I am trying to add a patch to a package that has no patches. can I use debhelper.mk / simple-patchsys.mk if the existing debian/rules doesn't? | 15:48 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.com/104893/ debian/rules | 15:48 |
| CarlFK | debian/rules:40: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries. Stop. | 15:48 |
| jorgenpt | Is it OK to submit others' debian packages to REVU? What's the equivilant to REVU for sid? | 15:48 |
| Laney | jorgenpt: mentors.debian.net | 15:49 |
| Laney | debian-mentors mailing list/irc chan | 15:49 |
| jorgenpt | And what about the former question? | 15:50 |
| Laney | probably "it depends" | 15:50 |
| Laney | why do you want to? | 15:51 |
| jorgenpt | Because I want the software to appear in Ubuntu | 15:54 |
| iulian | New packages which are uploaded to Debian will be automatically copied to Ubuntu. | 15:54 |
| jorgenpt | And the guy who made it hasn't got any big intentions to submit it to neither a debian mentor nor REVU. | 15:54 |
| Laney | you should probably ask if he minds | 15:57 |
| james_w | CarlFK: you can't mix CDBS and non-CDBS in debian/rules | 16:01 |
| CarlFK | james_w: that's what I figured. thanks | 16:01 |
| Laney | CarlFK: Quilt provides quilt.make which you can use very easily though | 16:05 |
| CarlFK | Laney: will it be any use if there is only one patch? | 16:09 |
| Laney | you should use a patchsys anyway | 16:09 |
| CarlFK | quilt is a patchsys? | 16:10 |
| Laney | yes | 16:10 |
| CarlFK | Laney: have a howto url? | 16:14 |
| CarlFK | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Quilt | 16:14 |
| Laney | huh | 16:14 |
| Laney | that's not a very good howto | 16:14 |
| Laney | http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html | 16:14 |
| lfaraone | Hi, how do I get ubuntu's dch to behave exactly like the debian version? (no "intrepid", no "0.1-1ubuntu1", etc) | 16:17 |
| Laney | lfaraone: You'll want to remove the Ubuntu modifications to debchange in the devscripts package | 16:19 |
| lfaraone | Laney: there isn't simply a --config-option? :( | 16:21 |
| Laney | I don't think so :( | 16:21 |
| * lfaraone is developing packages for Debian on Ubuntu, and finds it difficult. | 16:21 | |
| lfaraone | (PbuilderHowTo doesn't explain how to use a different OS in chroot,e tc) | 16:21 |
| * coppro pokes the MOTUs with the REVU button | 16:22 | |
| Laney | pbuilder-dist makes having sid chroots easy | 16:22 |
| lfaraone | Laney: ah... | 16:23 |
| Laney | ln -s /path/to/pbuilder-dist pbuilder-sid | 16:23 |
| Laney | pbuilder-sid create; pbuilder-sid build foo.dsc | 16:23 |
| Laney | easy! | 16:23 |
| ScottK | lfaraone: Speaking for myself, someone adding a flag to get Debian standard operations to dch would be quite welcome. | 16:40 |
| CarlFK | Laney: I messed up by creating ~.quiltrc in my package dir (vim ~.quiltrc opps) - so now I have .pc/ in my package dir. I moved .quiltrc to ~ ( cat /home/carl/.quiltrc; export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches) what do I do with .pc ? | 16:40 |
| Laney | delete it | 16:40 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: what's devscripts written in again? /me might scratch that itch | 16:41 |
| ScottK | lfaraone: I don't recall what debchange is written in. It might be python. Not all the scripts are in the same languate. I know some are shell, python, and perl. | 16:42 |
| lfaraone | If it's python, I'll put it on my TODO list. | 16:43 |
| CarlFK | Laney: current rules has "build-stamp: configure-stamp" - do I replace configure-stamp with $(QUILT_STAMPFN) ? | 16:45 |
| Laney | CarlFK: No, add it | 16:46 |
| Laney | CarlFK: It's probably better to put it before configure: though | 16:47 |
| Laney | s/before/after. | 16:47 |
| Laney | / | 16:47 |
| blueyed | lfaraone: dch is perl | 16:47 |
| CarlFK | this? build-stamp: $(QUILT_STAMPFN) configure-stamp | 16:47 |
| CarlFK | er, your before/afger lost me ... :) | 16:48 |
| CarlFK | this: build-stamp: configure-stamp $(QUILT_STAMPFN) | 16:48 |
| Laney | I mean | 16:49 |
| Laney | leave build-stamp how it is | 16:50 |
| Laney | and make configure-stamp depend on $(QUILT_STAMPFN_ | 16:50 |
| CarlFK | ah... | 16:50 |
| Laney | erm, not configure-stamp, configure | 16:51 |
| Laney | I can do things but not tell people about them... | 16:52 |
| CarlFK | this? configure: $(QUILT_STAMPFN) | 16:52 |
| Laney | yep | 16:53 |
| CarlFK | yay. | 16:53 |
| Laney | then it'll apply the patches before configuring | 16:53 |
| CarlFK | I used to know how to make makefiles... | 16:53 |
| lfaraone | doko__: oh, *cries*. | 16:53 |
| Laney | look in quilt.make, it's quite easy to understand | 16:53 |
| lfaraone | doko__: oops, wrong nick. | 16:53 |
| lfaraone | blueyed: bah, I'll have to rewrite it in python now :) | 16:53 |
| CarlFK | but that's been well over 5 years. I know the point, but forget the syntax | 16:54 |
| CarlFK | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA says "For example: you're creating an experimental version of the myapp_1.0-1 package. Your PPA package would be named myapp_1.0-2~ppa1. " | 16:58 |
| CarlFK | so I bump the -1 to -2, and add ~ppa1? | 16:59 |
| Adri2000 | lfaraone: anyway, you should probably file a bug so that your idea is not forgotten, and if you don't fix it, someone else will eventually do :) | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | the bump seems odd | 16:59 |
| Laney | yeah don't do that | 16:59 |
| Laney | oh, I see | 16:59 |
| Laney | "If you're creating an alternative version of a package already available in Ubuntu's repositories" | 17:00 |
| nhandler | The ~ iirc is lower than the -2 | 17:00 |
| Laney | it depends what you're doing | 17:00 |
| nhandler | So if a 1.0-2 is released in Ubuntu, it will replace your version | 17:00 |
| Laney | Why don't they use +? | 17:00 |
| CarlFK | applying a patch | 17:00 |
| Laney | 1.0-1+ppa1 | 17:00 |
| nhandler | Laney: Because that isn't always accurate | 17:00 |
| nhandler | Most of the time, you are testing out a package before it is uploaded to Ubuntu | 17:01 |
| Laney | that's not the case I'm talking about | 17:01 |
| nhandler | As a result, it will already have a bumped version. You just need the ~ppa1 so that it gets replaced when uploaded in Ubuntu | 17:01 |
| Laney | I'm talking about the case the lp wiki discusses | 17:01 |
| Laney | when you're trying to patch a Ubuntu version | 17:01 |
| nhandler | when you patch a bug in an Ubuntu version, you still bump the version | 17:02 |
| nhandler | Although the wiki isn't mentioning the -Xubuntuy part in the version | 17:02 |
| Laney | I don't see why | 17:02 |
| nhandler | Laney: Pretty much, you take what ever version the package would have if it were to be uploaded to Ubuntu right then and there. You then add ~ppa1 | 17:03 |
| Laney | But this is for some random personal patch that isn't intended for Ubuntu | 17:03 |
| Laney | 1.0-1+ppa1 says "I've taken 1.0-1 and added something to it" | 17:04 |
| nhandler | Well, then it really doesn't matter then what he does | 17:04 |
| nhandler | He could completely change the version and it wouldn't matter | 17:04 |
| Laney | you still want to retain a sane upgrade path | 17:05 |
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| nhandler | Laney: Well, all I am saying is that it is up to him for what the version should be. Depending on the patch, he might not want an X.Y-Z~ppa1, because then X.Y-Z would replace it. There are ways to make his version greater than X.Y-Z so that if that version makes it into the repositories, his version will have a higher version number, so it won't be replaced. It all depends on what the patch does. | 17:07 |
| Laney | of course. I was just proposing an almost-equivalent-but-in-my-opnion-clearer alternative | 17:09 |
| nhandler | Ok, for me, the +ppa1 isn't any clearer than ~ppa1. But in the end, it is the package creator's decision | 17:11 |
| CarlFK | I am assuming my patch will be applied to the next version ubuntu releases | 17:11 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: Then I would use (version of next ubuntu release)~ppa1. That way, the next ubuntu release will replace your pacakge | 17:12 |
| Laney | yep, this is the right use-case for that | 17:12 |
| CarlFK | current is https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/python-poppler/0.8.1-1 so I am going with 0.8.1-2~ppa1 | 17:12 |
| Laney | no, -1ubuntu1 | 17:13 |
| Laney | unless you're going for an update in Debian | 17:13 |
| nhandler | Laney: If we have -1 in Ubuntu, it means we synced the package | 17:13 |
| Laney | yes, but we won't do if his patch gets in | 17:13 |
| Laney | then it'll be 1ubuntu1 | 17:13 |
| nhandler | He should submit the patch to Debian then | 17:14 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: care to "confirm" https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devscripts/+bug/313508 ? | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 313508 in devscripts "dch should have an option to disable Ubuntu modifications" [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
| nhandler | We don't want to create a delta unless it is really needed | 17:14 |
| CarlFK | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-poppler/+bug/312462 should I add debian to the "Also affects distribution" ? | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 312462 in web2conf "document_new_from_data() arg1 must be without null bytes" [Medium,In progress] | 17:15 |
| CarlFK | web2conf is the code I was working on that is being blocked by the bug in pythyon-poppler | 17:16 |
| nhandler | Did you send your patch to python-poppler already? | 17:17 |
| CarlFK | yes | 17:17 |
| Laney | CarlFK: An upstream review would be nice | 17:17 |
| nhandler | And did they acknowledge it? | 17:17 |
| CarlFK | sort of: ali: CarlFK: it looks quite reasonable, but gmt is mostly maintaining that package, so I should check with him first | 17:18 |
| jorgenpt | So is it still possible to submit for Jaunty? | 17:18 |
| nhandler | jorgenpt: Yes | 17:19 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: If you do submit the patch to Debian, add a bug watch to the LP bug. But be sure to mention in the Debian bug that you also sent the patch upstream | 17:19 |
| Laney | (bts forwarded bugnumber url) | 17:20 |
| CarlFK | nhandler: im guessing as long as it gets fixed in trunk soon, the debian stuff isn't worth the effort | 17:21 |
| lfaraone | How do I run a diff between https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devscripts/2.10.26ubuntu4 and https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devscripts/2.10.26ubuntu3 ? | 17:21 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.com/104923/ W: python-poppler source: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 0.8.1-2~ppa1 | 17:22 |
| CarlFK | and W: python-poppler source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff poppler.defs | 17:22 |
| CarlFK | should I care about those? | 17:22 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: The second one you should fix | 17:22 |
| nhandler | Did you modify a file in the source? | 17:22 |
| nhandler | And quick question, w32codecs is only available from the medibuntu repositories, correct? | 17:23 |
| CarlFK | nhandler: yeah, followed http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html | 17:23 |
| CarlFK | I was wondering about that... | 17:23 |
| nhandler | So you used a quilt patch to modify poppler.defs? | 17:24 |
| CarlFK | quilt edit | 17:25 |
| CarlFK | guessing I want to do quilt pop | 17:25 |
| nhandler | Did you do a quilt new first? | 17:25 |
| CarlFK | Patch poppler.defs.diff is not applied - guessing I want to start over :) | 17:25 |
| CarlFK | yes | 17:26 |
| nhandler | Yeah, you probably didn't create the patch correct. | 17:26 |
| CarlFK | redoing it from scratch will probalby be easier than trying to fix my mess | 17:26 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems | 17:26 |
| nhandler | They have a section on quilt there | 17:27 |
| nhandler | But could someone just confirm that w32codecs is only in the medibuntu repo? | 17:27 |
| CarlFK | nhandler: does this count: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/w32codecs.php | 17:34 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: I was just trying to verify that the package is not in the official Ubuntu repositories. debian-multimedia isn't an official Debian repository, so that is fine | 17:35 |
| CarlFK | nhandler: mplayer has /usr/share/doc/mplayer/examples/install-w32codecs.sh.gz | 17:39 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: That is ok. I was just reviewing a package that had a Depends on w32codecs. But since that isn't a package in the official repositories, it needs to be changed | 17:40 |
| CarlFK | seems correct | 17:41 |
| Adri2000 | lfaraone: done | 17:43 |
| nhandler | And did the .desktop file policy change? I thought that icons in /usr/share/pixmaps were not meant to include a path or extension, and only have the filename | 17:44 |
| Laney | the icons themselves do, but the desktopfile doesn't give the extension | 17:45 |
| nhandler | Let me restate that last comment, should the .desktop file say "Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/Icon.png" or just "Icon=Icon"? There is a /usr/share/Icon.png file | 17:46 |
| Laney | the latter | 17:47 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.com/104930/ everything look ok? | 17:47 |
| Laney | nhandler: Does desktop-file-validate not complain? | 17:48 |
| nhandler | Right, it isn't complaining. I thought it used to. Did it get changed? | 17:48 |
| * Laney shrugs | 17:48 | |
| nhandler | Well, time to look at the source | 17:49 |
| jorgenpt | I posted a new and updated package to REVU for http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=bpython | 17:50 |
| CarlFK | is there a lag between uploading to ppa ( http://dpaste.com/104932/ ) and it showing up on https://edge.launchpad.net/~carl-personnelware/+archive | 17:52 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: That is normal | 17:53 |
| nhandler | It needs to build | 17:53 |
| nhandler | And be accepted | 17:53 |
| nhandler | Laney: In the NEWS file, it says "make the extension check for Icon key a warning instead of an error for now | 17:53 |
| nhandler | Time to figure out why I am not getting a warning | 17:53 |
| CarlFK | what is "be accepted" ? (does a human have to do something?) | 17:53 |
| nhandler | CarlFK: No. It is automated. You'll get an email. Then it will start building | 17:55 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: thanks | 17:57 |
| lfaraone | Now if I only had a clue how to get a diff between two package versions in LP that I cannot fidn anywhere. | 17:57 |
| nhandler | lfaraone: Are they two subsequent versions? | 18:01 |
| nhandler | And I found out why I am not getting a warning about the extension. It doesn't show that warning if an absolute path is used. Now to figure out why I am not getting a warning/error about an absolute path for an icon in /usr/share/pixmaps | 18:02 |
| lfaraone | nhandler: yes | 18:07 |
| nhandler | Yes what? | 18:07 |
| vorian | yes sir! | 18:09 |
| nhandler | :D | 18:09 |
| lfaraone | nhandler: yes, they are subsiquent versions. | 18:10 |
| nhandler | lfaraone: You will want to download the two source packages and then use debdiff | 18:12 |
| james_w | "bzr diff -rpackage:2.10.26ubuntu3..package:2.10.26ubuntu4 http://package-import.ubuntu.com/d/devscripts/jaunty" would also work | 18:17 |
| jorgenpt | james_w: Oh, hey, you're the one that's a subscriber on my bpython package? :-p | 18:18 |
| nhandler | james_w: Would you happen to have any idea why desktop-file-validate does not complain about using an absolute path for an icon in /usr/share/pixmaps? | 18:19 |
| james_w | nhandler: I thought that was a valid thing to do | 18:19 |
| james_w | well, an absolute path at least, checking whether the absolute path is in /usr/share/pixmaps would be possible, but seems like overkill. | 18:20 |
| nhandler | james_w: I thought you were only meant to use the Icon name, no extension or path if it was in /usr/share/pixmaps. I also thought desktop-file-validate used to complain about it | 18:20 |
| james_w | jorgenpt: how does it compare to ipython? | 18:21 |
| jorgenpt | It's similar, but I prefer bpython over ipython. It has neat stuff like argument inspection and inline syntax hilighting | 18:23 |
| jorgenpt | (and saving history to file, posting to pastebin, and other random features) | 18:26 |
| lfaraone | How do I tell debdiff to give me colored diffs? | 18:28 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: ok, I've added that option, do you want a patch or simply a debdiff? (and should I submit to debian's BTS as well as LP?) | 18:53 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: ("--debian") | 18:53 |
| Adri2000 | lfaraone: no, don't send that patch to debian, it's only useful to ubuntu | 18:58 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: debian however has ubuntu-stuff in it. | 18:58 |
| Adri2000 | in dch ? | 18:58 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: (debian's package has the "check if this is ubuntu or debian" subroutine) | 18:58 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: Yeah. I was amazed too. | 18:58 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/devscripts/devscripts_2.10.43.tar.gz and look in debchange.pl for "ubuntu" | 18:59 |
| CarlFK | what is the distro spozed to be? (I want it to be installed on intrepid) E: python-poppler_0.8.1-2~ppa1_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file intrepid | 18:59 |
| lfaraone | CarlFK: what are you running? | 18:59 |
| lfaraone | Adri2000: or better yet grep http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/devscripts/devscripts_2.10.43/changelog | 19:00 |
| CarlFK | lfaraone: intrepid on the box I built on | 19:00 |
| james_w | making it so you could use Ubuntu conventions on Debian might be useful | 19:00 |
| james_w | then it could be forwarded as well, with just the default changed for Ubuntu | 19:00 |
| lfaraone | james_w: ah... | 19:00 |
| CarlFK | lfaraone: but the package isn't avaible until jaunty, so I dget it, patched, left distro=unstable built. that was OK, but dput... got a reject letter: Unable to find distroseries: unstable | 19:03 |
| lfaraone | james_w: now that I look, tehre arlready is that option, heh | 19:03 |
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| MaduserTr | Is there a Document where I can see the changes between Standards Version 3.7.3 and 3.8.0? | 19:20 |
| nhandler | MaduserTr: Try http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/06/msg00001.html | 19:21 |
| MaduserTr | nhandler: thanks | 19:22 |
| DktrKranz | MaduserTr: alternatively, you could browse git repository (http://git.debian.org/?p=dbnpolicy/policy.git;a=shortlog) to see full changes | 19:22 |
| nhandler | You're welcome MaduserTr | 19:22 |
| MaduserTr | I try to pack wine-doors, but now I see this http://www.wine-doors.org/trac/browser/wine-doors/branches/0.2/COPYRIGHT | 19:27 |
| MaduserTr | Thinks this is no real GPL2? | 19:28 |
| tuxmaniac | it would be great to see someone review gresistor for Jaunty again. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gresistor | 19:34 |
| Elbrus | MaduserTr: /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt | 19:34 |
| MaduserTr | thanks | 19:34 |
| MaduserTr | but which package is this? | 19:35 |
| skorasaurus | hi, how should I request a package for jaunty to be updated ? | 19:39 |
| Adri2000 | skorasaurus: you mean, to a new upstream version? | 19:39 |
| pochu | Laney: your current debdiff in u-u-s will need to go through binary NEW, but you probably don't want that... | 19:40 |
| Adri2000 | MaduserTr: debian-policy | 19:40 |
| skorasaurus | Adri2000, yes. | 19:41 |
| Adri2000 | skorasaurus: file a bug (if there isn't one already) and tag it 'upgrade' | 19:42 |
| pochu | Laney: the goocanvasmm one | 19:43 |
| MaduserTr | MaduserTr: thanks | 19:43 |
| MaduserTr | Adri2000: thanks | 19:43 |
| skorasaurus | Adri2000, there already is :/ | 19:44 |
| Adri2000 | skorasaurus: then do it yourself :) | 19:45 |
| skorasaurus | i'm unclear on why the upstream dev in debian is hesitant to package it.... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497897 | 19:45 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 497897 in jabref "jabref: please upgrade to Jabref-2.4" [Wishlist,Open] | 19:45 |
| skorasaurus | jaunty, at least, already has the 3 packages available | 19:45 |
| skorasaurus | so, why wouldn't debian, upstream ? | 19:46 |
| skorasaurus | Adri2000, i'm learning how :p | 19:46 |
| Adri2000 | it's possible that the libraries have been packaged and uploaded to ubuntu, but not to debian | 19:47 |
| blueyed | siretart: the cdrecord package from the ubuntu-burning PPA does not include a cdrecord binary?! | 19:51 |
| * blueyed is having problems with erasing CDRWs using cdrkit/wodim.. :/ | 19:52 | |
| skorasaurus | hi, should I build a package, using the developer's debian package, or directly from source ? (the package is not in the debian repository) | 20:19 |
| NCommander | blueyed, does it have wodim? | 20:35 |
| NCommander | the cdrecord command was changed awhile back | 20:35 |
| maxb | skorasaurus: You mean the upstream already ships a debian/ directory in the source? | 20:41 |
| skorasaurus | maxb, nope, | 20:44 |
| skorasaurus | they have a debian package on the developer's website. | 20:44 |
| skorasaurus | maxb, its not packaged within the debian repositories, its a .deb | 20:44 |
| maxb | Well a .deb is a binary package so is not something you can use to build a package | 20:45 |
| maxb | Does upstream provide a .dsc / .diff.gz ? | 20:46 |
| skorasaurus | within the deb, is the control file, i see. | 20:46 |
| skorasaurus | maxb, no. | 20:47 |
| maxb | "control file" is a generic term that can refer to several different kinds of file. Which one precisely do you mean? | 20:47 |
| CarlFK | skorasaurus: post the url of "on the developer's website." | 20:48 |
| skorasaurus | CarlFK, http://gens.sourceforge.net/ | 20:48 |
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| CarlFK | skorasaurus: I see no .debs | 20:51 |
| maxb | skorasaurus: I see a .deb, but it does not appear that the developers have published the means to make the .deb from source | 20:52 |
| CarlFK | found one | 20:52 |
| maxb | Since upstream hasn't published their source packaging, your choice is no choice at all! | 20:52 |
| directhex | blueyed, cdrecord is non-free, so isn't included in the standard repo | 20:54 |
| CarlFK | skorasaurus: ask the author to check in the debian/ dir to http://gens.cvs.sourceforge.net/gens/ | 20:55 |
| directhex | oh, gens. it's a real bugger to build properly | 20:55 |
| CarlFK | I am kinda surprised it isn't already there | 20:55 |
| maxb | Is that necessarily a good idea? I thought there was a slight preference for upstream not to ship debian/ dirs | 20:56 |
| CarlFK | well, 'someone' should have them | 20:56 |
| blueyed | directhex: /me knows, but apparently cdrkit has broken cdrw-recording for me... :/ | 20:57 |
| CarlFK | if upstream is the only place they exist, i don't see any harm making them available | 20:57 |
| ScottK | lfaraone: File a bug in LP and subscribe u-m-s. I'd suggest something more like a --distro debian/--distro ubuntu flag so that it's just a question of which option is the default. | 21:58 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: uh, turns out that there already is such an option, it's just undocumented :/ | 22:04 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: ("--distributor") | 22:04 |
| ScottK | lfaraone: Interesting. | 22:04 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: however it still will put "intrepid" into the dist bit | 22:05 |
| ScottK | Sounds like some patching is in order then. | 22:05 |
| maxb | lfaraone: Doesn't it default the dist to whatever was in the previous changelog entry? | 22:10 |
| maxb | Certainly I've had no problems since I started aliasing dch to 'dch --distributor not-ubuntu' | 22:10 |
| lfaraone | maxb: nope, it doesn't (afacit) | 22:13 |
| serialorder | question: I have a package that I want to replace the pt.po file with pt_PT.po there is also a pt.gmo file. There is a quilt patch system. I am wondering what the best way to go replacing the file would be | 23:58 |
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