| darnell | i cant upgrade to jaunty always says that some packages cant be downloaded | 00:19 |
|---|---|---|
| darnell | W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/Release Unable to find expected entry partner/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 00:19 |
| darnell | , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/Release Unable to find expected entry partner/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 00:19 |
| darnell | , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 00:19 |
| darnell | hello? | 00:24 |
| darnell | can someone help with that? | 00:25 |
| darnell | nevermind, ill just edit sources.list | 00:26 |
| mikegriffin | i dont see partner in any of the releases | 00:35 |
| crimsun | you need to enable it | 00:35 |
| crimsun | System> Administration> Software Sources> Third-Party Software> Partner | 00:36 |
| mikegriffin | hadnt noticed that repo before | 00:42 |
| johninlex | hello all | 01:55 |
| johninlex | I know this is the wrong place for support with atheros wireless cards, but I have tried my local chat, #ubuntu, and madwiwfi and I cant find any help anywhere. can you all please help | 01:56 |
| johninlex | I have a atheros AR242X , I have tried 6 different drivers and I cant get it to work | 02:01 |
| mikegriffin | if someone is able to and hopes to help, they will certainly need a little more detail | 02:10 |
| dereks | hello all, i am running the latest jaunty, and my x is broken (using nvidia's video drivers from the repo), is this a known issue? is there a workaround? | 02:26 |
| mikegriffin | dereks: set to nv instead of nvidia for driver in xorg.conf until you figure it out | 03:00 |
| dereks | mikegriffin: i did that :) but i like nvidia's when possible | 03:01 |
| mikegriffin | you asked for a workaround | 03:01 |
| mikegriffin | i just upgraded and also have a broken nvidia binary driver, i have yet to spend much time working on it | 03:02 |
| mikegriffin | was this a new install or an upgrade? | 03:02 |
| dereks | mikegriffin: new install | 03:13 |
| mikegriffin | are you familiar with dkms? i am just figuring out where the pieces are | 03:18 |
| emet_ | !info deluge-torrent | 04:53 |
| ubottu | deluge-torrent (source: deluge-torrent): A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.9.3-1 (jaunty), package size 2074 kB, installed size 5872 kB | 04:53 |
| emet_ | :oo | 04:54 |
| ^Manu | is it recommended not to use 9.04? | 07:02 |
| ^Manu | 8.10 is causing me problems. | 07:02 |
| ^Manu | what sort of things should i expect to go wrong in 9.04? | 07:03 |
| kniolet | ^Manu: you can probably expect things to just randomly not work if using a pre-release version | 07:13 |
| kniolet | since they are still in the process of getting everything to work together | 07:13 |
| ^Manu | the 8.10 iso seems to be busted, it wont boot no matter what i do.. the 8.04 and 9.04 iso's both work fine.. | 07:13 |
| ^Manu | i've downloaded 8.10 from 2 different places, and burned it to a few discs at different speeds... i can't install 8.10 :/ | 07:14 |
| kniolet | i would install 8.04 then update to 8.10 then, personally | 07:14 |
| ^Manu | i have no internet .. i can't update on the net :( | 07:14 |
| kniolet | ah | 07:14 |
| ^Manu | i have unmetred access to a bunch of iso's, that's it.. | 07:14 |
| ^Manu | so 9.04 will just cause me problems then? without a doubt? | 07:15 |
| kniolet | well, it depends how much you care if some things may not work sometimes then lol if it were me, i would install 8.04, it wasn't that much different than 8.10 | 07:15 |
| ^Manu | its just a media player.. i don't need the gui.. | 07:15 |
| ^Manu | i have 8.04 installed now.. | 07:16 |
| kniolet | i would say its very likely that 9.04 would cause you some problems | 07:16 |
| ^Manu | its too old.. | 07:16 |
| ^Manu | it doesn't support my hardware. | 07:16 |
| kniolet | especially if you cant update it | 07:16 |
| ^Manu | i had to install the kernel from 9.04 in 8.04 to make the ethernet and sata work.. | 07:16 |
| ^Manu | but i need video drivers from 8.10 at least aswell.. | 07:16 |
| ^Manu | and its leading into a mess. | 07:16 |
| kniolet | ah | 07:16 |
| kniolet | i wonder why your 8.10 iso's are not booting | 07:17 |
| ^Manu | i have no idea.. | 07:17 |
| kniolet | well if its not a critical system, you could always instal 9.04 and hope for the best | 07:17 |
| ^Manu | either the 8.10 kernel doesn't like this pc for some reason, or the burner i'm using really doesn't like something about the 8.10 iso.. | 07:17 |
| ^Manu | there's something slightly wrong with the 8.10 iso either way.. | 07:17 |
| ^Manu | i've wasted a bunch of cd's on it.. i only have one left... i can't waste that one. | 07:18 |
| ^Manu | yeah, that's what i'm thinking.. | 07:18 |
| ^Manu | will 9.04 update as it progresses? | 07:18 |
| ^Manu | ie, will updates be released, until i am running an effective mirror of the release when it comes? | 07:18 |
| kniolet | yes, it updates constantly | 07:19 |
| kniolet | but that could be a pain without internet... | 07:19 |
| ^Manu | okay well i'll just see how i go i guess.. | 07:19 |
| ^Manu | i need cutting edge drivers.. | 07:19 |
| kniolet | how will you update it? | 07:20 |
| kniolet | lol | 07:20 |
| ^Manu | 9.04 has the latest kernel and seems to get the latest stuff yeah? | 07:20 |
| ^Manu | i have extremely slow internet, i can update one or 2 packages.. | 07:20 |
| kniolet | ah | 07:20 |
| ^Manu | but i can't install 8.10 from the net.. thats hundreds of mb.. | 07:20 |
| kniolet | yep thats true | 07:20 |
| ^Manu | haha, it's not going well.. the 9.04 installers partitioning program is having trouble straight up :( | 07:21 |
| crimsun | if you need cutting edge drivers, current 9.04 won't work | 07:21 |
| crimsun | the X server abi is incompatible with the proprietary non-Free drivers | 07:22 |
| ^Manu | intel drivers are free aren't they? | 07:22 |
| ^Manu | are the intel drivers supported by 9.04? | 07:22 |
| crimsun | yes | 07:22 |
| ^Manu | so i'll be okay then? | 07:22 |
| ^Manu | i have an X4500HD, very new intel IGP.. | 07:23 |
| crimsun | that's just as far as the X server abi is concerned | 07:23 |
| ^Manu | man.. everything i try and do is causing a shit fight.. | 07:23 |
| ^Manu | i've heard that i can copy the 8.10 live cd to a usb stick and boot the installer from that? | 07:24 |
| ^Manu | somehow... | 07:24 |
| kniolet | i did that for my eeepc a while back with 8.04 i think | 07:24 |
| ^Manu | it's "Scanning disks" and taking forever.. | 07:24 |
| kniolet | i dont remember the exact process, but yeah | 07:24 |
| ^Manu | 9.04 doesn't like me either.. | 07:24 |
| kniolet | maybe some problem with the sata | 07:24 |
| ^Manu | grrr | 07:25 |
| ^Manu | the sata didn't work in 8.04 | 07:25 |
| ^Manu | i installed the latest kernel from jaunty and that worked though.. | 07:25 |
| ^Manu | 8.04 complained about some things while booting with that kernel, but it generally worked fine.. | 07:25 |
| kniolet | well there is always Vista (soooo j/k) | 07:26 |
| ^Manu | *sigh | 07:26 |
| kniolet | maybe you need a different distro... | 07:26 |
| ^Manu | ubuntu is the only super cutting edge distro thats well supported. | 07:26 |
| kniolet | ubuntu is not usually the best for supporting a broad range of drivers in my experience | 07:26 |
| ^Manu | and i like debian based distros | 07:26 |
| ^Manu | what is best? | 07:26 |
| ^Manu | can i just use debian? it's usually way old though. | 07:27 |
| ^Manu | actually, it can't hate the sata.. it displayed the partition table.. | 07:27 |
| kniolet | in my personal experience (this is just my experience) suse and mandriva tend to have much better hardware support than ubuntu (i use all three daily) | 07:27 |
| ^Manu | it just wont let me click the 'format' checkbot, and tell it the partitions mount point. | 07:28 |
| crimsun | you could, after all, just use jaunty's kernel with the rest being hardy or intrepid | 07:28 |
| ^Manu | hrmm, i dont like rpm based distros :/ | 07:28 |
| ^Manu | i can't install intrepid.. | 07:28 |
| kniolet | i like distros that work on my hardware ;-) | 07:28 |
| ^Manu | haha | 07:28 |
| ^Manu | okay, so what i'll do now.. | 07:29 |
| ^Manu | is boot 8.04 again. | 07:29 |
| ^Manu | change my package repos to intrepid. | 07:29 |
| ^Manu | and install the latest video drivers from intrepid.. | 07:29 |
| ^Manu | and hope for the best.. | 07:29 |
| ^Manu | what are the chances if epic meltdown? | 07:29 |
| * kniolet wishes you luck | 07:29 | |
| ^Manu | so 'high' then? | 07:30 |
| kniolet | i dunno | 07:30 |
| kniolet | thats hard to say without trying it | 07:30 |
| ^Manu | man, linux sucks.. it never bloody works :P | 07:30 |
| ^Manu | i've been messing with this for 2 and a half days now.. | 07:30 |
| kniolet | wait didnt you say you dont need the gui? | 07:30 |
| ^Manu | trying assorted mixtures of stuff... | 07:30 |
| ^Manu | i plan to boot right into xbmc, a media front end.. | 07:31 |
| ^Manu | and i'll want to run emulators and shit too.. | 07:31 |
| ^Manu | but i don't *need* a gui... no.. | 07:31 |
| kniolet | ah | 07:31 |
| kniolet | just wondering since you updating the video drivers | 07:32 |
| ^Manu | i do need all the drivers and shit set up properly. and i'm a linux spastic.. i figured ubuntu would sort that out for me, and then i'd just edit the startup to not start the window manager. | 07:32 |
| ^Manu | well i need the video drivers for video related stuff, but i don't need a windows environment.. | 07:32 |
| ^Manu | jaunty's being retarded.. the partition tool is freaking out for some reason.. | 07:33 |
| ^Manu | i can't progress... | 07:33 |
| kniolet | :-( | 07:33 |
| ^Manu | i just need to tell it which partition is root.... | 07:33 |
| ^Manu | i need an easy way to boot from a cd image on a usb.. | 07:35 |
| ^Manu | i'm so over messing with shit.. | 07:35 |
| kniolet | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick | 07:36 |
| ^Manu | okay, so i have a new idea.. | 07:51 |
| ^Manu | i can install the latest intel driver from source in 8.04 right? | 07:51 |
| ^Manu | how do i go abou tthat? | 07:51 |
| jwhite93 | Hi, I am doing the upgrade right now, what do you guys think about it? What should I expect? | 11:26 |
| === erle64- is now known as erle- | ||
| andresmh | not sure if this is the right place for this as I am running 8.10 but I enabled ubuntu-backport I got the 2.6.27-11 kernel from ubuntu-backport and a couple of things stopped working. Is that relevant for Jaunty? Should I report it somewhere? | 14:13 |
| x1250 | andresmh, report the bug against intrepid. | 14:38 |
| andresmh | ok | 14:38 |
| === Dereks_ is now known as xdereksx | ||
| terli | someone wake up and take my bug report, I've got an issue specific to 8.10 and compiz. | 18:29 |
| terli | To be specific , when all graphical effects are turned off and metacity runs alone, firefox does... weird shit. | 18:29 |
| jussi01 | !bug | terli | 18:29 |
| ubottu | terli: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 18:29 |
| terli | but if you turn compiz back on , even if it uses the gtk generic generator | 18:29 |
| terli | it will not freak out | 18:29 |
| jussi01 | and terli, please watch the language | 18:29 |
| terli | jussi01: are you certain you want me to file the bug report? | 18:30 |
| jussi01 | terli: bug reports are a good thing if thewres a bug. also, 8.10 support is in #ubuntu now | 18:30 |
| terli | When I file bug reports people on canary island run around in really small circles holding their ears and chanting "nonononono this should never, ever, ever happen even with a one in a million chance!" | 18:30 |
| terli | um, sorry I ment jaunty | 18:31 |
| terli | 9.04 | 18:31 |
| terli | I'm getting my versions mixed up | 18:31 |
| jussi01 | hehe. ok, but please do file a bug report, if its not correct a triager will tell you | 18:31 |
| terli | well I don't know what to file it on | 18:32 |
| terli | firefox or compiz | 18:32 |
| terli | it technically effects neither | 18:32 |
| terli | and it involves both | 18:32 |
| jussi01 | terli: there is an "I dont know" option | 18:34 |
| terli | *rolls some dice* | 18:34 |
| terli | the dice say this issue will not be fixed by release date. | 18:34 |
| terli | *crushes the dice into really small dicelets* | 18:35 |
| jussi01 | terli: please file the bug, it doesnt take long, and lets see. :) | 18:35 |
| terli | I'm doing it ASAP | 18:35 |
| terli | bug report filed. | 18:41 |
| terli | hey, does anyone else have problems with 3d acceleration running old radeon cards in jaunty? | 20:02 |
| TheInfinity | terli: with fglrx_ | 20:05 |
| terli | um | 20:06 |
| terli | radoen | 20:06 |
| terli | aiglx | 20:06 |
| terli | open source | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | Is there any way to bring up the i810 chipset in Jaunty? I get a blank screen for gdm, and a lot of color | 20:09 |
| charlie-tca | in the tty terminals. I can´t use any of it. | 20:09 |
| terli | I get the same thing for the terminals | 20:12 |
| terli | gdm works fine here though | 20:12 |
| terli | try shaking the cursor :-P | 20:12 |
| terli | hey! YOU! DEVS! users have to be in group video for accelleration! | 20:15 |
| ikonia | Poison[BLX]: the module you seek maybe in the additional modules packages, but I don't think it is | 20:57 |
| Poison[BLX] | the restricted modules? | 20:58 |
| ikonia | yup | 20:58 |
| Poison[BLX] | it's not :/ | 20:58 |
| Poison[BLX] | madwifi based drivers are, but they don't work on the card I have | 20:59 |
| ikonia | rats | 21:00 |
| Poison[BLX] | actually running intrepid on the box, but grabbed the jaunty 2.6.28 kernel because 100 mi away from here I have the same card in a Gentoo box and couldn't get it running with anything other than 2.6.28 and the ath5k driver lol | 21:00 |
| ikonia | mixing the kernel is a bad call | 21:01 |
| ikonia | (in my opinion) | 21:01 |
| crimsun | perfectly reasonable but unsupported | 21:01 |
| * DanaG wishes there were a non-warranty-voiding way to make his new USB sound card stop BLINKING. | 21:02 | |
| Poison[BLX] | DanaG: black electrical tape over the led? | 21:02 |
| * DanaG slaps the manufacturer ("Voyetra Turtle Beach")... | 21:03 | |
| DanaG | I mean why the <asterisks> does a sound card need to BLINK? | 21:03 |
| DanaG | =þ | 21:03 |
| DanaG | Electrical tape would work, yes. | 21:04 |
| DanaG | I also wonder why it has a "Speaker" slider AND a "Speaker 1" slider. | 21:04 |
| Poison[BLX] | How, without any access to internet from a *nix system, would I get ahold of the tree and headers to hand build a module? Everything I've found starts with the assumption that I can use apt-get | 21:05 |
| DanaG | You can download the headers .deb file and stick it on a storage device of some sort. | 21:05 |
| DanaG | Use another system to download the deb file. | 21:06 |
| Poison[BLX] | DanaG: all I have in the way of other systems is a borrowed Vista laptop (and no joy on livecd wireless working on it, painfully enough) | 21:07 |
| Poison[BLX] | I'm about ready to pack up the system and drag it off 100mi with me to some proper internet... it would spare the silly questions ;) | 21:08 |
| DanaG | What I mean is, you could download from in Windows. | 21:08 |
| DanaG | Just browse the http://archive.ubuntu.com/pool tree to find the headers .deb files. | 21:09 |
| DanaG | Or even go to packages.ubuntu.com | 21:09 |
| DanaG | (that'll give you info on dependencies, which you'll need.) | 21:09 |
| Poison[BLX] | ooh, handy! thanks! | 21:09 |
| DanaG | You'll likely need linux-headers-generic, linux-headers-2.6.28, linux-headers-2.6.28-generic, and some other variants. | 21:10 |
| DanaG | start at the top with linux-headers-generic. | 21:10 |
| DanaG | http://packages.ubuntu.com | 21:10 |
| crimsun | if you have register-level data docs, you can simply twiddle the appropriate registers to disable the blinking or the led altogether | 21:12 |
| crimsun | or, if you can disable the blinking in another os, just sniff the urb traffic | 21:12 |
| crimsun | the latter process is more time-consuming, of course, but it's how we reverse-engineer a lot of stupid OEM usb-audio quirks | 21:13 |
| Poison[BLX] | thanks for all the help on this (especially considering how far removed from "supported" it technically is... :D) | 21:13 |
| DanaG | The official drivers don't let you disable it, either. | 21:15 |
| DanaG | The official Turtle Beach drivers make it a solid red on mute, but alternate CM106 drivers I need for Vista 64 do not. | 21:15 |
| DanaG | Perhaps I should contact the company and ask how to disable the LED entirely. | 21:17 |
| crimsun | yeah, ask for docs, too, while you're at it =) | 21:18 |
| DanaG | Even their own Vista64 drivers also don't have working channels 7 and 8, supposedly. | 21:18 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, another thing in my laptop: AES2810 fingerprint reader... http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Unsupported_devices#AuthenTec_AES2550_.26_AES2810 | 21:19 |
| DanaG | " Sourcing one of each of these devices (this is made difficult because they only seem to be found in laptops) " -- not really that hard; it's like 30 bucks for the board from HP's parts store. | 21:20 |
| crimsun | get one and ship it to daniel drake, then | 21:20 |
| DanaG | http://h20141.www2.hp.com/hpparts/Part_Where_Used.asp?mscssid=FA5D63B6FE14424B8CAD91E598E90F44&SearchCriteria=495063-001 | 21:22 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, and my issue with the stick buttons on the touchpad... it turns out it also affects Windows. I can't use stick-middle for scrolling and pad-middle for actual middle button. :( | 21:23 |
| crimsun | do you have an alps or a synaptics? | 21:24 |
| DanaG | Synaptics. | 21:24 |
| crimsun | interesting. hp usually ships alps. | 21:24 |
| DanaG | The stick's buttons seem to be actually wired to the touchpad device, electrically. :( | 21:24 |
| DanaG | It also has multi-touch disabled; my old laptop's Synaptics could do at least basic multi-touch. | 21:25 |
| DanaG | No "Advanced Capability Bits" reported. | 21:25 |
| === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik | ||
| DanaG | Oh yeah, is there any way to tell, from an xorg log, which CRTCs particular outputs on a video card are attached to? | 21:40 |
| DanaG | My dad got an HD3450 video card with DVI-I, HDMI, and VGA, and I'm trying to figure out (without buying any hardware) whether it'll be able to do DVI-D + HDMI. | 21:41 |
| DanaG | Simultaneously, I mean. | 21:41 |
| crimsun | DanaG: depends how verbose the logging to Xorg.*.log is | 21:49 |
| DanaG | Aah. He's using XP, but I'd be using the Intrepid 64-bit livecd. | 21:50 |
| DanaG | For comparison, here's the log on my laptop. http://pastebin.com/f3826df28 | 21:52 |
| DanaG | Oh, easiser: xrandr --verbose | 21:53 |
| === sepheebear is now known as Sepheebear | ||
| soc | hi | 22:24 |
| soc | in gnome-appearance the dpi setting is not correct | 22:24 |
| soc | it seems that it is hard coded to 96 instead of the real dpi of the display | 22:24 |
| soc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/157398 | 22:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 157398 in gnome-control-center "GNOME default DPI doesn't match X default DPI" [Wishlist,Won't fix] | 22:24 |
| soc | btw, i just wonder why the dpi is changeable by the user ... | 22:25 |
| soc | this seems pretty stupid to me ... | 22:25 |
| DanaG | I also think it's bad that people recommend CHANGING the dpi setting as a fix for too-big font sizes. | 22:40 |
| DanaG | If your fonts are too big... change the font size! | 22:40 |
| DanaG | "My fonts are too big!" answer: "Change it to 96DPI!" -- WRONG! | 22:40 |
| crimsun | err, not precisely | 22:40 |
| crimsun | if there is a dpi issue with the driver, then that definitely needs to be fixed | 22:41 |
| soc | yes, it would be better to remove that dpi-thing in gnome | 22:41 |
| soc | crimsun: but it has to be fixed in the xorg.conf, not in some gconf-key | 22:41 |
| DanaG | What I mean is that, if the DPI is correct and the fonts are too big... people suggest changing the DPI, and that's wrong. | 22:41 |
| soc | so either the whole setting should change the xorg.conf-file or remove it | 22:42 |
| DanaG | On my laptop, radeon and radeonhd give different DPI results. | 22:42 |
| soc | DanaG: yes, i have seen that many times | 22:42 |
| DanaG | Real DPI is 147; radeonhd gets it correct. Radeon assumes 96. | 22:42 |
| soc | maybe it would be good to slap a big label next to the dpi setting "don't touch this freaking thing " | 22:43 |
| DanaG | Or link here: | 22:43 |
| soc | this bug annoys the hell out of me | 22:43 |
| DanaG | http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html | 22:43 |
| soc | at least 5 different bug reports on that matter and at least the same amount on "ideas" on brainstorm | 22:43 |
| crimsun | DanaG: yes, that bit about changing the font size as a hackaround is understood to be utterly incorrect | 22:43 |
| crimsun | however, we do need the infrastructure to be correct -first- | 22:44 |
| soc | crimsun: the gnome bug is already fixed" | 22:44 |
| DanaG | It also reminds me of how people often suggest "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" as if it were the be-all, end-all (not sure I'm using that expression correctly) of solutions. | 22:44 |
| soc | the patch is already there, who checks that xorg's values are at least reasonable, before using them | 22:44 |
| soc | either gnome has forgotten to include the patch, or ubuntu has forgotten it | 22:45 |
| soc | either way, it sucks :-P | 22:45 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, so that is a bug: | 22:45 |
| DanaG | (II) RADEON(0): clock: 165.3 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm | 22:45 |
| DanaG | (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) | 22:45 |
| soc | that radeon thing is obsolete by all means, i hope they through it out in the future | 22:46 |
| DanaG | It has all the info it needs: physical size and screen resolution (1920x1200); it shouldn't be assuming 96. | 22:46 |
| soc | DanaG: can you point me to the svn/git? | 22:46 |
| DanaG | svn? I haven't used it, myself. | 22:46 |
| soc | ah ok | 22:46 |
| DanaG | I'm actually using Jaunty with the Intrepid X server, so I can use fglrx; oddly enough, anything newer than 8.543 panics. | 22:47 |
| DanaG | Or rather, gets a general protection fault. | 22:47 |
| DanaG | That reminds me: /me switches to radeonhd... | 22:48 |
| DanaG | OOpsie... (EE) No devices detected. | 22:51 |
| soc | ouch | 22:52 |
| soc | which card? | 22:52 |
| soc | afaiu thgis is our problem: | 22:53 |
| soc | driver sets the wrong dpi -> toolkits expect that xorg doesn't report the right idea, assume something themselves -> toolkits have userchangeable dpi-settings, so users can fix it theirselves -> users do stupid things with it like using it to change their font size | 22:53 |
| DanaG | Mobility HD3650. | 22:53 |
| DanaG | Note that I'm also on the Intrepid radeonhd. | 22:53 |
| DanaG | Latest 64-bit Jaunty kernel breaks * by building CONFIG_DRM=y | 22:53 |
| DanaG | * as in "everything" | 22:54 |
| soc | :-/ | 22:54 |
| soc | mhh will try it | 22:54 |
| DanaG | ... apparently it affects radeonhd, and not just fglrx. | 22:54 |
| soc | have jaunty myself | 22:54 |
| DanaG | Either that... or loading the fglrx module breaks loading radeonhd. | 22:54 |
| DanaG | ... even after unloading fglrx. | 22:54 |
| DanaG | I do wonder why all the newer fglrx versions give me hard-lockups like that. | 22:55 |
| DanaG | It happens even with fglrx on the intrepid livecd. | 22:55 |
| * DanaG tries fglrx again... | 22:55 | |
| DanaG | Undefined symbol firegl_queryMCRange | 22:57 |
| soc | you have to reboot | 22:58 |
| soc | DanaG: i'm just bugging the radeon-devs about the dpi ... | 22:59 |
| DanaG | The thing is, fglrx is also broken... undefined symbol. | 23:00 |
| soc | could you load radeon and tell me the output of xdpyinfo | grep resolution? | 23:00 |
| DanaG | That gives 147x147. | 23:02 |
| soc | mhh | 23:02 |
| DanaG | Perhaps the log is lying about using 96x96. | 23:02 |
| soc | and what does your xorg-log say? | 23:02 |
| soc | is 147 right? | 23:02 |
| DanaG | (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96) | 23:03 |
| soc | could you paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.com? | 23:03 |
| DanaG | 147 is correct. | 23:03 |
| soc | ah ok | 23:03 |
| DanaG | handy thing: serial-over-lan. it lets me get full stacktraces for panics and such. | 23:04 |
| DanaG | http://pastebin.com/f71b2be17 | 23:05 |
| soc | thx | 23:05 |
| DanaG | That's fglrx panic log. | 23:05 |
| soc | i would need the log with "(==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (96, 96)" | 23:05 |
| DanaG | Oh, the full Xorg log? Easy enough. | 23:05 |
| DanaG | http://pastebin.com/f184b7b55 | 23:06 |
| DanaG | (pidgin slashexec plugin + pastebinit == win) | 23:06 |
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| DanaG | Oh, I see why it's getting undefined symbol: that symbol is in libfglrxdrm... which won't load because of the CONFIG_DRM=y | 23:10 |
| Volkodav | why would the router reboot itself sporadically ? Tried 2 different firmwares Oleg's and dd-wrt mega build - same thing | 23:11 |
| Volkodav | on Asus WL500 Premium v2 | 23:11 |
| DanaG | bug 312721 | 23:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312721 in linux "Jaunty: CONFIG_AGP=y breaks ATI graphics" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/312721 | 23:15 |
| DanaG | ah, that's the one. | 23:16 |
| DanaG | Good, fix committed. | 23:16 |
| DanaG | I do still wonder why newer fglrx panics, whereas the older one does not. | 23:17 |
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