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| mdke | is Ubuntu's "Add to Panel" dialogue customised from the Gnome version, or the same? | 11:15 |
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| Maggie | I am not able to use flashdrive on my pc...I use Hardy plz help! | 17:14 |
| Maggie | I am not able to use flashdrive on my pc...I use Hardy plz help! | 17:21 |
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| PrivateVoid | anyone know why a computer would have 'jerky' performance unless the mouse was being moved or glxgears was being run? | 19:36 |
| dobey | lots of I/O bound activity | 19:40 |
| dobey | something eating up a lot of memory, and causing stuff to swap | 19:41 |
| PrivateVoid | dobey, so why would moving the mouse or running glxgears actually help? | 19:45 |
| PrivateVoid | I could see it if the jerkiness was when glxgears was running, but not having it be smooth when I am running it... | 19:46 |
| dobey | what do you mean by "jerky" performance? | 19:51 |
| PrivateVoid | Well... the apps would take an odd time to launch... | 19:52 |
| PrivateVoid | but the most indicative thing was running System Monitor | 19:52 |
| PrivateVoid | the graphs would update in a jerky pattern instead of a smooth flow... | 19:53 |
| PrivateVoid | then when I would move the mouse... or if I ran glxgears the graphs would update smoothly as they do on my other systems | 19:53 |
| dobey | i don't know why that would be, no | 19:53 |
| PrivateVoid | ok... | 19:54 |
| dobey | unless tracker is indexing stuff, and moving the mouse, and glxgears, cause it to cease doing so until idle again | 19:54 |
| dobey | or something similar to that | 19:54 |
| PrivateVoid | that is where I got after 14.5 hours of trying to figure it out... | 19:54 |
| PrivateVoid | It was a fresh install... with the proprietary drivers loaded for Nvidia | 19:55 |
| PrivateVoid | and that was it... | 19:55 |
| johanbr | Sounds like an interrupt problem. And/or ACPI. | 20:13 |
| PrivateVoid | johanbr, could be ACPI... on the interrupt... | 20:15 |
| PrivateVoid | or I meant | 20:15 |
| PrivateVoid | it was on an ASUS X83Vm-X1... | 20:15 |
| PrivateVoid | if it was ACPI... then moving the mouse and running glxgears basically forced it to not use power management? | 20:16 |
| PrivateVoid | that would link the two items together | 20:16 |
| johanbr | PrivateVoid: maybe. You could try changing cpufreq governor. Or booting with "acpi=off". Or with "noapic nolapic". | 20:51 |
| PrivateVoid | that is an option... I this it might be he acpi -- apparently the bios on the machine doesn't handle it properly... from some posts I am finding | 20:54 |
| PrivateVoid | but for a laptop that kind of sucks | 20:54 |
| PrivateVoid | thanks for the advice johanbr | 20:55 |
| johanbr | no problem | 20:55 |
| PrivateVoid | using acpi=off turns off power management right? | 20:56 |
| johanbr | yes | 20:57 |
| johanbr | That could possibly have consequences for thermal management, so make sure the laptop doesn't get too hot. | 20:58 |
| PrivateVoid | I guess I return this laptop... | 21:00 |
| PrivateVoid | I do not want to run Windows...... and Linux appears to be having issues on it... | 21:01 |
| PrivateVoid | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 | 21:01 |
| PrivateVoid | that appears related... | 21:01 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 11541 in MTTR "boot hang unless "mtrr=off", caused by commit b1f6278d77c1f2f669346fc2bb48012b5e9495a- Asus M51TR notebook" [High,New] | 21:01 |
| PrivateVoid | might be the bios ASUS is using... | 21:02 |
| PrivateVoid | thought that is a different model... it is logical that they are using similar bioses | 21:03 |
| johanbr | According to one comment, booting with "noapic nolapic" works. | 21:04 |
| johanbr | Sorry, I mean "nosmp nolapic". | 21:04 |
| PrivateVoid | yeah... | 21:10 |
| PrivateVoid | it does work... but the trade off is severe for a laptop | 21:10 |
| PrivateVoid | found this too johanbr - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2008-11/msg04598.html | 21:14 |
| PrivateVoid | the N80Vm is basically the same machine too | 21:15 |
| johanbr | I wouldn't despair too much. Did you try "noapic nolapic" ? | 21:15 |
| PrivateVoid | not yet | 21:16 |
| PrivateVoid | these are talking about booting issues... I am getting jerky performance... I guess they could be related. | 21:16 |
| johanbr | Very likely. The issue seems to be that the machine has a buggy ACPI implementation. | 21:19 |
| PrivateVoid | I think it goes back tomorrow... | 21:24 |
| PrivateVoid | it is still within my 14 day return period | 21:24 |
| PrivateVoid | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9050055&type=product&id=1218012612475 | 21:24 |
| PrivateVoid | sucks to give up an LED lit monitor and such great specs... (they are actually on sale for $794 right now) for that price... | 21:25 |
| PrivateVoid | but I will find a replacement johanbr -- any laptop recommendations? | 21:25 |
| johanbr | I have a Dell laptop that I'm pretty happy with, and they're sold with ubuntu preinstalled. | 21:26 |
| johanbr | My only complaint is that the backlight gave up a while ago, but that was covered by warranty. | 21:27 |
| PrivateVoid | you using the X3100 graphics or Nvidia? | 21:27 |
| johanbr | Nvidia. Which I'm beginning to regret. | 21:30 |
| johanbr | I don't need powerful graphics anyway, and the closed-source nvidia drivers sometimes have issues. | 21:30 |
| cj | so... unplugging a vga cable from a dell netbook doesn't switch desktop orientation, resolution, etc | 21:39 |
| cj | ibex | 21:41 |
| cj | who do I work with to make it happen? | 21:41 |
| cj | I'll take my answer off the air :) | 21:41 |
| dobey | johanbr: so use the open source drivers, and forgo fancy 3d bits for a while :) | 21:48 |
| MetaTron | night | 21:52 |
| johanbr | dobey: I think nouveau is still a bit too bleeding-edge for my taste. | 22:02 |
| dobey | johanbr: i'm not talking about noveau | 22:07 |
| johanbr | nv? last I tried, that didn't work with my card | 22:08 |
| dobey | yeah | 22:08 |
| dobey | oh | 22:08 |
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