[00:19] <NCommander> cjwatson_, ping?
[01:16] <ion_> http://zakalwe.fi/pic/ubuntu-scooter.jpg
[02:44] <ebroder> I want to request a backport for cython into Hardy. Should I request a backport of the Intrepid version (which is universe), or the Jaunty version (which is in main)?
[04:17] <ScottK> doko__: I just ran across my first module that also ships code to support Python 3.  Is there any guidance on packaging modules to work with Python 3?
[06:14]  * Hobbsee wonders if the ops call needs anything else done
[11:13] <cjwatson> ebroder: whichever works best; the universe->main promotion is probably not directly relevant to backporting in itself
[11:14] <Chipzz> cjwatson: ot, but Keybuk seems to be on vacation; do you know when he'll be back?
[11:27] <NCommander> hey cjwatson
[11:30] <cjwatson> Chipzz: everyone in Canonical is on vacation until at least Monday
[11:30] <cjwatson> (i.e. Monday is the first general day back)
[11:31] <NCommander> cjwatson, w.r.t. to Xubuntu, universe itself seems to be missing from the LiveCD image itself (as in squashfs)
[11:31] <cjwatson> NCommander: I looked at the live filesystem build log and it definitely fetches packages from universe
[11:31] <cjwatson> you can look for yourself, it's in http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/
[11:32] <cjwatson> NCommander: so perhaps you could answer the specific question I posed in the bug?
[11:32] <NCommander> Oh, ok
[11:32] <NCommander> Yes, reading now, I think its a red hearing
[11:32]  * NCommander doesn't pretend to be any expert in liveCDs
[11:33] <cjwatson> NCommander: what exactly do you mean by universe being missing from the squashfs?
[11:33] <NCommander> running apt-cache search *stuff* doesn't reveal anything for universe however when running off the CD.
[11:33] <cjwatson> please be as precise as you can
[11:33] <NCommander> s/for/from/g
[11:33] <cjwatson> is that the exact problem, or is there something else too?
[11:34] <NCommander> Well
[11:35] <NCommander> It's a sympton of the problem
[11:35] <cjwatson> I'm trying to get you to be precise
[11:35] <NCommander> None of the Xfce packages are there, running the liveCD gets you to a fvwm session
[11:38] <cjwatson> ok, there are two problems here
[11:38] <cjwatson> the first is that livecd-rootfs doesn't construct the final sources.list correctly; I'll fix this tomorrow
[11:39] <NCommander> and the second?
[11:39] <cjwatson> the second is that the archive isn't correctly set up to include Task fields for packages in universe, which I've just fixed
[11:39] <cjwatson> patience, it's hard to type while carrying a baby :P
[11:39] <NCommander> Tasks fields?
[11:40] <cjwatson> just take my word for it, too fiddly to explain now
[11:40] <cjwatson> lp_archive@cocoplum:/srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-misc$ sudo -u lp_publish ln -s more-extra.override.jaunty.main more-extra.override.jaunty.restricted
[11:40] <cjwatson> lp_archive@cocoplum:/srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-misc$ sudo -u lp_publish ln -s more-extra.override.jaunty.main more-extra.override.jaunty.universe
[11:41] <Hobbsee> cjwatson: this means that the new archive reorg has started?
[11:41] <cjwatson> no
[11:41] <cjwatson> absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that
[11:41] <Hobbsee> oh, i thought Task fields would indicate it was.  My bad :)
[11:41]  * cjwatson -> gone for the day
[11:42] <Hobbsee> enjoy
[18:29] <comradekingu> * Booting jaunty from usb does not work on my eee 1000. Tried both unetbootin and "Create a USB startup disk"
[19:28] <Xteven> hi, should I get the same package if I build a sourcepackage without any modifications ?
[19:28] <Xteven> and if I don't get the same thing, should I consider that a bug ?
[19:30] <broonie> Xteven: Depends on what the differences are.
[19:30] <Xteven> it crashes with a buffer overflow if I build it myself
[19:31] <Xteven> root@guest-laptop:/usr/src# *** buffer overflow detected ***: /usr/sbin/ircd-ratbox terminated
[20:17] <broonie> Xteven: that's a definite bug, then.
[20:25] <cjwatson> Xteven: at a guess, it could mean that the binary package in the archive was built with an older version of gcc and that a newer version miscompiles it; or that newer library headers break something; or ...
[20:28] <Xteven> cjwatson: quite possible
[20:29] <Xteven> I reported it as a bug :) sooner or later the packager will run into the same problem if he upgrades to a later gcc version
[21:41] <TheMuso> Greetings. How have your holidays been?
[21:41] <TheMuso> woops wrong window
[21:41]  * TheMuso is not obviously back entirely, at least mentally. :p
[21:42] <LaserJock> my holidays have been fine, how about you? :-)
[21:42] <TheMuso> LaserJock: Very nice thanks. Its actually good to be back.
[21:43] <mdke> does anyone know whether the "unzoo" package was intentionally removed from intrepid? It appears to have been present in hardy
[21:44] <mdke> hiya LaserJock
[21:44] <james_w> mdke: "Reason: (From Debian) RoM: obsolete, superseded by zoo"
[21:44] <LaserJock> mdke: hi! long time, no see
[21:45] <mdke> james_w: just found that page, thanks
[21:45] <mdke> LaserJock: yeah :)
[21:45] <james_w> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497775
[21:57] <Baby> pitti: hi! :)
[22:16] <crimsun> Xteven: it's an off-by-one
[22:18] <ion_> I wonder if smb will ever come back online? :-)
[22:20] <Xteven> crimsun: interesting
[22:21] <crimsun> i'm sending the patch to BTS with attribution to F10
[22:22] <Xteven> ?
[22:30] <crimsun> Xteven: all relevant info is in the debian & ubuntu bugs.
[22:30] <crimsun> Xteven: (presuming you filed #313820)
[22:31] <Xteven> aaaaaaah
[22:31] <Xteven> F10 -> fedora 10 ?
[22:32] <crimsun> yes
[22:32] <Xteven> I think I did file that one
[22:32] <Xteven> yup
[22:32] <Xteven> ok
[22:32] <Xteven> well, I'm kindof glad its a bug :)
[22:32] <Xteven> every discovered bug makes software more secure
[22:32] <Xteven> well, not really
[22:32] <Xteven> but I like to think so
[22:33] <crimsun> if you want to rebuild your own, grab that patch and add it to debian/patches/ in the extracted source, and make sure to add the filename of the patch to debian/patches/series, too
[22:33] <Xteven> I'll try it out
[22:35] <Xteven> compiling
[22:40] <Xteven> crimsun: patch worked, it doesn't crash anymore
[22:41] <Xteven> thx
[22:41] <crimsun> Xteven: yw
[23:39] <seek_therapy> Hi, I just upgraded my cousins computer and she no longer has sound. I have asked several Ubuntu channels and no one seems to have the answer
[23:39] <TheMuso> seek_therapy: #ubuntu for support.
[23:40] <seek_therapy> No one there could help me
[23:40] <seek_therapy> apparently allot of people are dealing with the same problem
[23:41] <seek_therapy> So.. i am downloading Ubuntu again and am gonna burn the iso and try to reinstall
[23:43] <Xteven> seek_therapy: I had a problem like that, it had to do with pulse audio
[23:43] <seek_therapy> do you have a link?
[23:44] <seek_therapy> or can you tell me what you did to fix it
[23:44] <seek_therapy> when i turn her system on .. i hear the drum roll , then when i login ...no sound
[23:45] <Xteven> hmm
[23:45] <Xteven> not really :(
[23:46] <Xteven> but maybe you can find some help on the forums
[23:46] <seek_therapy> and it was pulse audio ?
[23:46] <Xteven> I just killed my pulseaudio daemon
[23:46] <Xteven> I'm runing without it now, everything works ok
[23:46] <Xteven> ubuntu intrepidd
[23:47] <seek_therapy> Xteven: sorry i am new to all this
[23:47] <Xteven> np
[23:47] <Xteven> I think its best to ask in #ubuntu
[23:48] <Xteven> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964516
[23:49] <seek_therapy> sure, if they can help.. Sadly, I talked her and her child into using Ubuntu and she was actually starting to like .then this happens
[23:53] <Xteven> :(
[23:53] <Xteven> might want to look through some logs or so