[00:23] <RainCT> serialorder: Do you want to modify the file or just rename it?
[02:20] <lfaraone> How would I add a man page to a package that uses CDBS?
[02:21] <vorian> create a file in your debian dir called manpages, and put the path to the manpage in that file
[02:22] <vorian> then, just place the manpage in the debian dir, or you can create a manpage dir
[02:23] <lfaraone> vorian: ah, thanks.
[02:23] <vorian> no problemo
[02:23] <lfaraone> vorian: how should I adress AUTHORS, should it list the program authors or the manpage author? :)
[02:24] <vorian> the authors section is for the application authors, then you can say you wrote it at the end
[02:25] <lfaraone> vorian: under COPYING?
[02:25] <vorian> na, hold on a second
[02:26] <vorian> lfaraone: like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/99354/
[02:27] <lfaraone> vorian: ah, OK.
[03:57] <nhandler> I'm working on a personal package that is *NOT* for the Ubuntu/Debian repositories. Is it possible to have it install files in the user's home folder?
[04:10] <coppro> yes. It's not recommended though, since there are multiple users. And you will need to do it with a script (to install to each user's home folder, run through each non-system user in a post-installation script to copy files from a central copy)
[04:10] <coppro> and also copy into the skeleton home directory, probably
[04:26] <nhandler> coppro: Is there any way to find what user is installing the package?
[04:27] <coppro> no, since installations are run as root
[04:28] <nhandler> coppro: That is what I thought.
[05:26] <hyperair> hi how do i fix the lintian warning "debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink"?
[05:29] <coppro> make the changelog no longer a symlink
[05:29] <hyperair> coppro: but how do i do that? this part is not within my power is it?
[05:29] <hyperair> debuild does the installing of the changlelog and copyright file into /usr/share/doc
[05:30] <hyperair> if debuild chooses to make it a symlink, what can i do?
[05:30] <coppro> hyperair: well, you are packaging it, right? so why is your changelog file a symlink? (btw, try running lintian with -I
[05:30] <coppro> debuild shouldn't. If it does, you are doing it wrong
[05:31] <hyperair> coppro: i think the reason is that codelite-plugins is depending on codelite
[05:31] <hyperair> and since they both come from the same source package, codelite-plugin's changelog somehow got symlinked to codelite's
[05:31] <coppro> could be
[05:31] <coppro> seems like bad practice
[05:31] <coppro> no MOTUs here by any chance?
[05:34] <hyperair> gues not
[05:38] <hyperair> ah. cdbs bug?
[05:42] <ScottK> hyperair: It's a CDBS design feature in Ubuntu to keep the CD size down.
[05:43] <hyperair> ScottK: then i shouldn't bother about that lintian warning right?
[05:43] <ScottK> hyperair: You don't need to worry about it as it's not an actual problem, but something Ubuntu chooses to differently than Debian.
[05:43] <ScottK> hyperair: Right.
[05:43] <hyperair> okay
[05:43] <hyperair> thanks
[05:43] <ScottK> No problem.
[05:44] <coppro> shouldn't there be an override then?
[05:44] <hyperair> if there should be, then shouldn't cdbs doing the overriding?
[05:44] <ScottK> Not really, since it's almost universally something you see in Ubuntu.
[05:45] <ScottK> I suppose one could, but I don't think people generally bother.
[05:47] <hyperair> hmmm
[05:47] <hyperair> how does one do lintian overrides?
[05:47] <jmarsden> Where can I find out more about packaging CPAN modules?  Archive::Any to be specific... I can't seem to find an existing libarchive-any-perl package...
[05:53] <ScottK-desktop> jmarsden: I'd look in the Debian Perl team's docs.  They are pretty thorough.  Also they are open to Ubuntu contributors, so you could package it for them and then sync it to Ubuntu.
[05:53] <ScottK-desktop> That'd give you easy access to people who know about such things.
[05:53] <jmarsden> OK, thanks.
[05:59] <serialorder> question: I want to replace pt.po with pt_PT.po and get rid of pt.gmo and the package uses a quilt patchsystem. Should I delete pt.{po,gmo} and add pt_PT.po all in one diff file? Or is there another way to go about this?
[09:32] <x1250> hi guys, could someone take a look to this dependency problem? gnome-subtitles is not installable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/99496/
[09:37] <hyperair> hmm jaunty?
[09:39] <x1250> hyperair, yes
[09:40] <hyperair> figures. i heard that there's some refactoring of mono packages going on
[09:40] <hyperair> wait until it's done, then that issue should be fixed
[09:41] <x1250> ok, didn't know that, thanks
[09:42] <hyperair> =)
[11:27] <hyperair> does anyone feel like revu'ing a package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=codelite
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Hey guys I wonder if this is to be included in Jaunty's repositories http://divfixpp.sourceforge.net/
[13:33] <Paddy_EIRE> If not I would not mind trying my hand at packaging it
[13:33] <bddebian> Heya gang
[14:00] <persei> I've compiled a prg and make it available on my ubuntu repository. I run Hardy, but is there a way to create archives available for Intrepid users ? the program compiled is a "standalone java" program, so a version of it can run on all platform as long as a user run java. Someone told me to change a line in the file "programxxx_i386.changes. is it true, and what do I have to change in it, before running debarchiver?
[14:17] <pmjdebruijn> persei: for PPA you need to upload sources packages...
[14:21] <persei> pmjdebruijn: I've placed the five files created in my incoming subdirectory. then run debbarchiver -so. I do not understand what files I could placed there. Sorry, but I'm newbie at this
[14:21] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[14:21] <pmjdebruijn> persei: are you talking about PPA or not?
[14:24] <persei> no, I was not aware of that.
[14:24] <persei> I'm reading right now something about launchpadhelp
[14:27] <pmjdebruijn> persei: for PPA you need to use dput
[14:31] <persei> pmjdebruijn: yes,
[14:32] <pmjdebruijn> persei: dput ppa blah_sources.changes
[14:32] <pmjdebruijn> persei: the sources file needs to be signed
[14:33] <persei> pmjdebruijn: maybe a stupid question : but using ppa, my package will be available in another repository , not mine ?
[14:40] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[14:40] <pmjdebruijn> persei: ppa=personal package archive
[15:54] <AdamDH> hey, here is part of my rule files, can any one tell me why my source is not extracted when I call configure? http://www.pastebin.ca/1299655
[15:55] <AdamDH> configure calls apply-patch and that calls extract source so in order it should go extract source patch configure thats what I am trying to do any way
[15:57] <fabrice_sp> AdamDH, how do you call configure? What command are you using?
[16:00] <AdamDH> same simular way from buildso i have build: configure build-time-stamp etc
[16:00] <fabrice_sp> if you call debian/rules configure
[16:00] <fabrice_sp> does it works?
[16:03] <ripps> Hi, I'm back, and I need some more help getting a package to compile in my PPA
[16:03] <ripps> I'm trying to get Mayanna to build, but I think I'm missing a dependecy, but I'm not sure what. Can someone help me figure out?
[16:03] <AdamDH> it runs configure but nothing above configiure so I get errors
[16:04] <AdamDH> so it does not extract or patches the source
[16:05] <ripps> https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Eripps818/+archive/+build/824717/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.mayanna_svn60~ripps2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:05] <fabrice_sp> AdamDH, and what about debian/rules apply-patch ?
[16:06] <AdamDH> the apply-patch works when it gets called but nothing seems to call it, i tried it standalone
[16:06] <AdamDH> noting seems to be calling anything else
[16:10] <fabrice_sp> AdamDH, and if you rename it to something else?
[16:10] <ripps> Hello?
[16:10] <fabrice_sp> ripps, there are some strange messages: package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64). Can you check it appears in a correct build
[16:12] <AdamDH> it all works if I wack it all inside configure but not when its seperated out
[16:14] <ripps> I have no idea why Launchpad would do that, but here's the amd64 build data, it failed as well:
[16:14] <ripps> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20833784/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.mayanna_svn60~ripps2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:15] <ripps> I think some of the problems might be because there is no python-evolution package in intrepid. How do I get remedy this dependency?
[16:17] <fabrice_sp> ripps, are you trying to backport a jaunty package?
[16:17] <ripps> fabrice_sp: no, I'm just trying to compile mayanna from source in PPA
[16:18] <fabrice_sp> ripps, so why are you speaking about python-evolution?
[16:18] <fabrice_sp> AdamDH, maybe apply-patch is a reserved word. Even if you try with another one, it fails?
[16:18] <ripps> fabrice_sp: python-evolution is listed as one of the dependecies of mayanna in it's BUILDING text file.
[16:19] <ripps> That being said, I managed to build mayanna without it locally, but not on Launchpad.
[16:20] <fabrice_sp> ripps, if you manage to build it locally, is it because you installed python-evolution?
[16:20] <fabrice_sp> if it's the case, you should build it also in your ppa
[16:20] <anakron> hi
[16:21] <anakron> someone here use gnome-dictionary in Spanish, with a spanish dictionary server, and it works?
[16:21] <ripps> favrice_sp: no, I don't have python-evolution installed, but I guess some other package that I might have installed might be making up for it, I just don't know what it is.
[16:21] <anakron> Hi RainCT
[16:22] <RainCT> hi anakron
[16:22] <ripps> fabrice_sp: *
[16:26] <fabrice_sp> ripps, you can have a look at run dependencies
[16:26] <fabrice_sp> if you succeed in building a package locally
[16:26] <fabrice_sp> (inside the deb package)
[16:27] <ripps> fabrice_sp: I didn't build using deb package, that always failed. I just built it the manual "make install" method.
[16:29] <fabrice_sp> ripps, did you try with python-gnome2-desktop ? It seems to include python-evolution
[16:30] <ripps> fabrice_sp: I'm trying a new build, with some edit build-dependencies. I think I had python-gnome2-desktop before, but I'm trying again.
[16:31] <fabrice_sp> ripps, ok
[16:33] <ripps> Okay, after looking at the build logs, it looks like the problem is in python-gtk2-dev.
[16:33] <ripps> fabrice_sp: I'm missing /usr/include/pygtk-2.0/pygobject.h
[16:34] <fabrice_sp> ripps, you can check at packages.ubuntu.com. It gives me python-gobject-dev
[16:35] <anakron> someone have ever use gnome-dictionary in  Spanish?
[16:35] <ripps> fabrice_sp: Adding to build-depends, now starting rebuild.
[16:35] <fabrice_sp> anakron, no, but if you explain me what to do, I can try
[16:36] <anakron> or someone can test now gnome-dictionary with a spanish server looking for  aspanish word?
[16:36] <anakron> the problem is that es.dict.org doesn't work
[16:36] <anakron> and i want to patch it
[16:36] <anakron> but i can't find any spanish dict server out there
[16:37] <anakron> even in dict.org
[16:37] <anakron> so, im looking for a spanish dict server to patch it and report it to upstream
[16:38] <anakron> but it seems that noone works
[16:38] <anakron> no one
[16:39] <fabrice_sp> anakron, did you try with vocabulary.aioe.org ?
[16:39] <anakron> yes
[16:39] <anakron> and it doesn't work
[16:43] <Laney> pochu: I don't really mind
[16:43] <anakron> it contains in his dicts "spanish-english freedict dictionary "
[16:44] <anakron> but it doen't translate even or give an spanish meaning
[16:47] <anakron> fabrice
[16:47] <fabrice_sp> anakron, yes. I was trying all the serves
[16:47] <anakron> can you look for a spanish dict server?
[16:47] <fabrice_sp> servers
[16:47] <anakron> ;)
[16:48] <fabrice_sp> :-)
[16:48] <fabrice_sp> they all time out ... :-(
[16:49] <anakron> :S
[16:49] <anakron> but vocabulary.aioe.org works with enlighs words
[16:49] <anakron> english
[16:50] <fabrice_sp> anyway, I checked with chico en www.dict.org, and the definition is not so good ;-)
[16:50] <fabrice_sp> chico = Var. of Chica.
[16:50] <fabrice_sp> :-)
[16:51] <fabrice_sp> anakron, translations seems to work in www.dict.org
[16:52] <anakron> yes
[16:52] <fabrice_sp> so, why not using dict.org?
[16:54] <anakron> let me see
[16:55] <anakron> it doesn't work for me
[16:56] <anakron> mmm
[16:56] <anakron> i want an spanish server that no need to write the word in english to get his translations
[16:56] <anakron> i need meanings
[16:56] <anakron> but i cant find anything
[17:38] <lfaraone> Hi, I've got a package in debian sid that didn't make the import freeze IIRC, how hard is it to get it in jaunty?
[17:40] <Laney> lfaraone: just file a sync request if it works on Jaunty
[17:40] <lfaraone> Laney: what version of python is Jaunty based on?
[17:42] <Laney> 2.5 iirc
[17:45] <lfaraone> Laney: how long should I wait for the sync request to be processed before trying it again? (I'm on a dynamic range and might be killed by a spam filter)
[17:45] <Laney> I don't use the email interface
[18:10] <lfaraone> Laney: who approves those requests?
[18:11] <Laney> lfaraone: MOTUs, then an archive admin has to manually process it
[18:11] <Laney> subscribe the sponsors
[18:27] <AdamDH> http://www.pastebin.ca/1299733 can any one tell me why extract-source is not been ran? been looking over it for an hour and cannot see why not. I wrote the shell for apply path and remove patch and tried it standalone first so I know that works
[19:20] <Laney> james_w: u-uk meeting in 10 mins if you're interested
[19:57] <james_w> thanks Laney
[20:16] <AdamDH> i got my rules to run in order now but I get: dh_testdir for i in `cat urrent_directory/series | grep -v "#"` do
[20:16] <AdamDH> /bin/sh: Syntax error: end of file unexpected any ideas why? do I have to escape the shell script at all?
[20:31] <coppro> anyone for REVU?
[20:31] <directhex> only for mono packages
[21:08] <wikz> I have uploaded a new package for spicebird, would someone like to revu it? spicebird is a collaboration client and it's based on TB3a2. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=spicebird
[21:30] <AdamDH> do shell vairbles work the normal way inside rules? as patches=`cat CURRENT_DIRECTORY/series | grep -v "#"` cat: /series: No such file or directory so its not finding CURRENT_DIRECTORY even tho it was declared
[21:32] <TheMuso> AdamDH: If you wish to perform nested shell commands in a rules file, you need to do something like $(shell cat blah)
[21:32] <AdamDH> what about if I want to run a chunk of shell code?
[21:33] <AdamDH> do loops work the same way in the rules file?
[21:34] <TheMuso> AdamDH: No, you can do loops in a rules file, but you need to put a backslash at the end of each line. I suggest having a look at the rules file for the espeak source package, as it is done there.
[21:34] <AdamDH> so doing CURRENT_DIRECTORY=`pwd` I need to do CURRENT_DIRECTORY=$(shell pwd)?
[21:38] <TheMuso> AdamDH: There is already a variable for the current directory, $(CURDIR)
[21:42] <AdamDH> as an example is CURRENT_DIRECTORY=$(cat example) correct as I get missing separator. Stop.
[21:45] <TheMuso> AdamDH: Again, I suggest you look at the rules file for the espeak source package, as that has most shell examples present in it.
[21:45] <AdamDH> why is there nothing documented about running shell inside rules? that example looks ideal as it shows some simular stuff to what I am doing
[21:47] <TheMuso> AdamDH: Because rules are makefiles.
[21:47] <TheMuso> i.e the rules file is a makefile.
[21:50] <AdamDH> right so trying to do what I am trying to do at the moment is going to be a headache, running some shell code inside the makefile
[21:52] <AdamDH> example if I do current_directory=$(shell pwd), i know there is a var for it just an example how do I use current_directory then inside $(shell) ? do it as normal $shell(cat current_directory/series) etc?
[22:01] <TheMuso> AdamDH: I think you have to use 2 $ signs.
[22:02] <TheMuso> AdamDH: I haven't done it in a while, so can't exactly remember.
[22:14] <AdamDH> im getting the hang of this, how do I use If then else in a makefile then?
[22:15] <TheMuso> AdamDH: There are special makefile directives for if etc. Unfortunately I can'
[22:15] <TheMuso> Unfortunately I can't remember what packages use them currently.
[22:18] <AdamDH> i will see if google brings anything up for it
[22:19] <broonie> The GNU Make manual is pretty good.
[22:22] <pochu> Laney: well, it will block your glom upload... but it's up to you :)
[22:23] <Laney> pochu: Will none of the packages get published until -doc clears?
[22:23] <Laney> I guess that makes sense
[22:23] <Laney> 'tisn't such a big deal
[22:26] <pochu> Laney: it won't, nope
[22:26] <Laney> ah well
[22:26] <Laney> as long as it doesn't take 6 weeks