nbeebomother fucking niggers00:31
topyliway to go00:32
elkbuntunickspoon, please dont.00:37
nickspoonOh, come on.00:37
nickspoonI won't do it again :)00:38
elkbuntunickspoon, ops arent allowed to have fun.00:38
nickspoonPah, says who?00:38
elkbuntusays the shitstorm that will eventuate if you keep the current thing up. hell, we had to stop play-kicking other ops becuase the poor little offtopicers were scared00:39
elkbuntu!language > elkbuntu00:40
ubottuelkbuntu, please see my private message00:40
nickspoonI've been in #u-o a fair while now and as far as I could tell no play-kicks ever did any harm. I will relent, however - I shouldn't want to incur the wrath of the important ops :)00:45
elkbuntunickspoon, wait until lynoure sees a play-kick, or someone else who likes to accuse us of abuse.00:46
elkbuntunickspoon, we're not even supposed to preemptively op up in a dispute. they scream bullying if we do.00:47
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)00:47
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)00:48
elkbuntuthen complain if we warn, as warning is bullying00:48
elkbuntuthen complain that we dont give warnings00:48
elkbuntunickspoon, it might look fun from the user side, but it's not. Trolls have more leeway than we do.00:49
nickspoonI'll grant you that I haven't been in here at all, but really this sounds an awful lot like whiny users getting their way.00:50
elkbuntuit is.00:51
elkbuntuthat's how -offtopic has got to the trashpit it is today00:51
elkbuntumost of the regulars are those whiny users00:52
elkbuntui mean, just the other week i got accused of not participating in -offtopic00:52
elkbuntuby wobblywu00:53
thomthe proliferation of ubuntu irc channels still scares me. but i might just be showing my age :)00:53
elkbuntusuch as which?00:53
thomwell, such as all of them. but then, i remember the discussion about hiving the ubuntu-devel mailing list off the ubuntu one :)00:54
nickspoonI don't know of any regulars who complain about joke kicks. The only times people have complained (in #u-o at least) is when they don't understand why they were kicked.00:55
nickspoonOr why X was kicked.00:56
elkbuntunickspoon, it's not the sort of thing you notice until you're one of us.00:57
nickspoonI suppose not.00:57
PriceChildOne of us!00:58
Seeker`people will complain about most things00:58
PriceChildI'd rather we leave +o alone unless it is needed.00:59
Seeker`in fact, whatever you do, someone will probably complain00:59
Seeker`and if you are an op long enough, you'll probably pick up a group of followers that will complain about everything you do no matter what it is01:01
nickspoonWhich is why I don't want to be an op for any more than #u-o.01:02
Seeker`bedtime I think01:04
elkbuntuSeeker`, and their complaining takes our time. it's a matter of if you have time to be screamed at. most of us dont.01:31
elkbuntunickrud, -ot is probably the hardest one to be op of.01:31
elkbuntuerrrr nickspoon01:32
elkbuntutoo many nicks01:32
* nickrud eyes nickspoon, again01:32
elkbuntuhe left01:32
elkbuntui didnt read what popped up with tab complete01:32
nickrudbefore I joined obviously. But we've been down this road before, us two01:32
nickrudhis nick is about the only one I write fully, every time01:34
patxJack_Sparrow: hello.02:46
patxlol pm02:46
Jack_SparrowWe tried letting users make their own factoids but it got out of control fast.. now they can suggest them, and they get approved or denied 02:46
patx 9:46:28 PM: he has a masters option02:47
patx  9:46:40 PM: u can set it to just the staff02:47
patx  9:46:45 PM: er i can set it02:47
Flannelpatx: So, how would it be any different than ubottu?02:47
patxidk... he can run in whatever channel u want him to...02:48
Jack_SparrowFlannel, ty02:48
Flannelpatx: We already have bots in all the channels we want them in02:48
FlannelThank you though, but we've got it covered.02:48
patxis there anyway he can get a cloak then?02:48
Flannelpatx: Not an Ubuntu cloak, no.  You'd have to talk to freenode staff to get some other cloak; I'm not sure how unaffiliated cloaks work for bots.02:49
patxi have one of those already02:49
Flannelpatx: right, I meant for your bot.02:50
patxhe has one of them to lol02:50
FlannelOh, you have one.02:50
FlannelWhy would we give some arbitrary bot an Ubuntu cloak?02:50
patxbecause he would be in ur channels02:50
Flannelpatx: Again, thanks for offering, but we don't need any additional bots at this time.02:51
patxcan u think of any other irc chanel with cloaks that need bots... i came here cos i use ubuntu02:52
FlannelNot off the top of my head, nope02:52
patxk ty again02:54
Flannelpatx: Is there any other Ubuntu related issues we can help you with today?  We ask people not to idle here.  Thanks02:54
patxk leaving no02:55
FlannelSABDFL... not identified05:00
Flannelgoing to be guested soon I imagine05:00
Moniker42he hasn't enabled nick protection05:09
FlannelOdd.  Someone should mention it to him05:09
Moniker42only in #ubuntu too05:10
* Flannel hasn't either, I don't think, for what its worth.05:10
Moniker42i would think if it actually was sabdfl he'd be in -dev etc?05:10
FlannelOh, its certainly not him05:10
elkbuntuisnt posing as well-known freenode registered nicks like BAD in the freenode guidelines?05:15
Moniker42hmm yes, but that's sabdfl's error for not enabling enforce :P05:16
FlannelI know posing as a staffer is.05:16
elkbuntuMoniker42, please dont blame victims05:16
elkbuntuthat's like saying it's ok to rob you while you're out, because you didnt have one more lock on your door05:16
Moniker42let's not use flawed analogy... it's up to the user to decide if they want their nick protected when they are offline05:20
Flannelelkbuntu: do you have a car analogy?05:20
nickruddon't lock your car, and your theft insurance is compromised. Not blaming the victim, just expecting due diligence05:21
elkbuntuMoniker42, i'd chance that Sabdfl has no idea about nick enforce05:22
elkbuntuMoniker42, in fact, i'd be willing to put a wager on it.05:23
Moniker42perhaps it's more like leaving your car unlocked in the middle of a car park, taking the registration plates off and leaving the keys in the lock - then saying the police should only make sure that people don't take the expensive and ostentatious cars05:23
Moniker42it's not up to staff to decide whether a nick/user is important or popular enough to have their nick protected05:24
* tonyyarusso is here to be filled in if this is relevant to me...05:24
Moniker42please ignore my car analogy... analogies are not arguments - i just wanted to oblige Flannel with a car one ;)05:25
Flanneltonyyarusso: He's not here yet05:25
FlannelOh, that guy.05:27
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !alias apachemysqlphp is <alias> lamp05:38
PriceChilddid someone try the former and expect informatino?05:39
nickrud#ubuntu. menza tried the former, I popped the latter, that was the result05:40
FlannelI can't imagine why you'd expect the former05:41
nickrudthat's the name of the wiki page05:42
Flannelwell, that was brief05:47
nickrudhm. maybe he was just checking if he got good info on the channel name :)05:48
FlannelI guess.  He's been in here before though; wants to file a complaint about abuse.05:48
nickrudis commie_cary a known troll?06:30
Flanneltrollish at times, yes.06:32
bazhangI am betting that amuro is kelvin91106:32
FlannelNot "a known troll" just sometimes difficult06:32
Flannelbazhang: He is.06:32
elkbuntuPriceChild, there's no harm in extra aliases if they make sense. it's when they're vague and dont make sense that i fail to see the point07:01
* genii puts on a pot of coffee08:55
geniiWow, quiet in here. I guess thats a Good Thing09:23
geniiHiya elkbuntu09:31
Tm_Tgenii: saw #kubuntu-offtopic ?09:57
geniiTm_T: Seems quiet last hour or so since I've been /back  ... didn't scrutinize backscoll however09:58
geniiTm_T: Buckethead ?10:00
Tm_Tno, the other one10:00
geniiAh, Minataku10:01
Tm_TI wasn't overreacting, was I?10:01
Tm_TI thought so10:01
geniiHe doesn't even run KDE or *buntu10:01
Tm_TI know10:02
Tm_Tit was all because of calling names, really10:02
geniiMaybe an !ot earlier coulda helped avert... otherwise looks fine to me 10:03
Tm_Tnah, he knows10:04
geniiTm_T: Hehe "remove is not an invite"10:07
geniiIs there a korean or esperanto channel to direct someone to?10:19
ubottuFor Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko10:24
ubottuIru al #ubuntu-eo, Bonvole.10:24
geniiAh, nice10:24
geniiApparently -oe has 1 user10:24
genii-eo     rather10:25
geniiI've told nils in #u several times now how to go to #ubuntu-de and others have also pointed him at the !de a few also. Can anyone shove him there or so?11:37
genii(I'm not an op there just #k)11:37
geniiFlannel: You see? He is stubborn ;)11:39
FlannelHe's not stubborn, just not used to IRC11:39
Flannelgenii: /j doesn't work everywhere11:40
geniiMaybe he doesn't know to go to the tab after it's opened11:40
geniiAh, possibly only /join works then11:40
elkbuntusome of the !cc factoids are a bit sparse on detail.11:41
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de11:42
geniiI wonder how you say "select the channel name with mouse and activate"   or so11:42
genii(since that usually works on gui clients)11:43
elkbunturight, and if i've launched my irc client like some website said to do, it's automatically dumped me in #Ubuntu (as the default irc clients do) then i have no idea how to do anything11:43
FlannelWe'd have to update that on almost all of them though11:44
elkbuntugenii, "(hover and right click)" is basically all we need to append with11:44
FlannelI argue its easier to manually walk the few totally clueless people who haven't other figured it out through /join #whatever11:44
geniiI find merit in both cases ;)11:44
geniiFlannel: I'm leaning your way generally. I don't want to be volunteered for editing11:45
elkbuntuFlannel, we update it on the ones we can source someone to help us fix. german, spanish, french should be easy enough to find11:45
stdinwho's going to make sure "(hover and right click)" works in all the IRC clients?11:51
jussi01is it not just click?11:53
* genii tries to hover and rightclick in irsii11:53
jussi01and do we not just need to check the defaults?11:53
jussi01ie. the default clients11:53
Flannelxchat, mIRC, pidgin, [Kubuntu]11:54
geniimirc under wine ...11:54
stdinwith Konversation, you just click (not sure if right click does anything)11:54
Flannelgenii: Nah, mIRC under windows.  "I cant get ubuntu to work, so I rebooted to windows, yadda yadda"11:55
stdinand I'm not sure about kvirc11:55
jussi01with quassel its the same as konvi11:56
FlannelSo, we already know its right click some places, and left click others?11:56
jussi01(quassel is likely to be default in jaunty) (we hope)11:56
geniijussi01: What the hell core would it use??11:57
jussi01genii: monolithic client ;)11:57
jussi01!info quassel11:57
ubottuquassel (source: quassel): distributed, Qt based, IRC client using a central core component. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu9 (intrepid), package size 2246 kB, installed size 4236 kB11:57
* genii sips from his Kubuntu mug12:00
geniiGeez, now I can hear the crickets ;)12:07
FlannelDon't jinx it12:07
ubottuIn #kubuntu, hyper_ch said: !de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe für Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanälen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de14:44
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de14:47
LBSourceswhats up?16:25
bazhangLBSources, you are ban evading?16:25
Jack_SparrowWhen were you banned and what nick?16:26
ubottuThe operation succeeded.16:26
LBSourcessame nick16:27
LBSourcesjust asking .. i came back from being away and noticed i was banned, but it seems it was lifted16:27
LBSourceshard to tell .. my crap client doesnt record the time16:28
LBSourceshow useful :)16:28
LBSourcesanyway .. it's lifted .. so i think it ok now16:28
Jack_SparrowI see one on the 26th16:29
Jack_Sparrowbut like you said it was lifted16:29
LBSources26th? wow .. well I dont even interact enough to be banned.. but ok16:29
LBSourceswell .. thanks..16:31
Jack_Sparrowbazhang, Do you have a minute..?16:53
bazhangJack_Sparrow, sure what's up16:53
Jack_SparrowFat fingers16:54
bazhanglet me check16:54
Jack_Sparrowthe logs are utc right  Dec 26 2008 19:07:24 16:54
guntbertHi, I suggest to change the wording of the factoid !de, I modelled it after !es and !fr to be more clear16:56
guntbertIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.16:57
Jack_Sparrowguntbert, thank you .. someone that speaks de will look it over..16:57
guntberttranslation: Most of the ubuntu-channels are English-only. for support in German please join ..... Just type /join #ubuntu-de. Thank you for your understanding.16:57
jussi01!no, de is <reply>In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:02
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0117:02
Jack_Sparrowbazhang, LBS may have been christmaself as the times are close17:05
bazhangyep that would be him it seems jack17:11
ubottujtaji called the ops in #ubuntu (patlutz)18:32
jussi01#ubuntu going to the dogs again I see...18:38
jussi01Jack_Sparrow: you didnt remove him...18:39
Jack_Sparrowone sec18:39
ubottuIn ubottu, Schuenemann said: !no, pt is Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:40
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:40
ubottuIn ubottu, Schuenemann said: !no, br is Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:40
jussi01!no, br is Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:40
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0118:40
jpdsjussi01: Shouldn't that have <reply>?18:46
ubottubr is Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:46
jussi01!no, br is <reply>Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:47
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0118:47
ubottubr has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:15:56 - last edited by jussi01 on 2009-01-04 18:49:1018:47
ubottupt aliases: portuguese, brazil - added by Seveas on 2006-06-21 00:53:44 - last edited by LjL on 2008-11-18 23:08:1118:47
jussi01!no, pt is <reply>Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:47
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0118:47
jussi01!no, br is <alias>pt18:48
jussi01!no, br is <alias> pt18:48
ubottuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm18:48
jussi01!no, br is <alias> pt18:48
ubottubr is <alias> pt - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:15:56 - last edited by jussi01 on 2009-01-04 18:50:3218:48
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:48
nickspoonWell done :D18:49
PriceChildelkbuntu: I don't think he'll be using that long one next time.18:59
jussi01Jack_Sparrow: you need to remember !danger ;)19:14
Jack_SparrowIm trying to watch football and keep an eye in here19:15
Jack_SparrowDid nbeebo get unbanned since yesterday.. I thought he got banned in ot and in ubuntu19:24
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Jack_SparrowHEy HacKBoX 19:26
Jack_SparrowWhat else can I help you with today19:27
HacKBoXI was bored so I figured i would see how to become an operator19:27
Jack_SparrowDidnt mean that to sound the way it looks19:27
HacKBoXall good19:27
Jack_SparrowHacKBoX, Just by helping in channel.. we are always watching.. and we never op.. because some asks19:28
HacKBoXthat is what i figured. I check out the coc. sounds good. I wasn't sure if everybody paid attention to the help given19:29
Tm_T!guidelines | HacKBoX 19:29
ubottuHacKBoX: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:29
Tm_Tit's all there, even how becoming an op, I believe19:29
HacKBoXthanks TM_T 19:29
HacKBoXthanks. I'm gonna get out of this channel19:29
jpdsPriceChild: u-uk meeting in 1 if you're interested.19:29
Flanneljussi01: -pt is a LoCo channel, -br is the language support channel19:49
FlannelThat's why the former was removed from the factoid19:49
* jussi01 doesnt get how that works... 19:50
Flanneljussi01: support is in -br for those languages.  -pt is for LoCo business, and -br has -br-loco or soemthing like that, for LoCo business19:50
jussi01Flannel: yes, but you are supposed to be able to get support in a loco channel, no?19:51
FlannelNot necessarily, no.19:51
FlannelLoCos provide support, but doesn't have to be in their main IRC channel19:51
Flannel(the -pt loco provides support in the -br channel, I believe)19:51
FlannelIts just like we don't provide support here, or in -meeting or whatnot19:52
Flannel-br is a language channel, -pt (and -br-whatever) are channels for LoCo business19:53
jussi01That isnt my understanding of how it works, but if you know better please feel free to change it19:53
jussi01oh yay for netsplits...19:55
stdin"rehubbing" is the term they use when it's intentional :p20:00
stdinFloodBot1 is going insane20:23
FlannelWow.... that... text speak guy is crazy20:23
Flannelikonia: I think you mean anyng20:24
tritiumHow hard is it to type out a full word?  Sheesh...20:26
FlannelUm, whats the fcatoid for arabic?20:27
ikoniaI was looking !20:27
tritiumNot sure, without digging.20:27
ikoniacouldn't see it20:28
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe20:28
stdinumm, nope20:28
ubottuFor the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية20:28
Flannelodd, ok, sa it is I guess20:28
* Flannel always worries about offending when dealing with languages he has little knowledge about.20:29
tritiumAn innocent mistake shouldn't offend.20:29
FlannelMy ignorance is no excuse for... well... ignorance20:30
tritiumHave we really gotten to the point where it's safer not to help, than to risk offending?  Too much political correctness...20:31
FlannelI never said I won't help.  I just said I worry about showing my ignorance20:32
ikoniaFlannel: I make some bad calls with say spanish and portugese 20:33
stdinooh, myrtti's here20:35
* stdin waves20:35
FlannelHowdy myrtti20:35
ikoniahowdy 20:35
tritiumFlannel: I know, my point is that you shouldn't have to worry about showing ignorance.20:37
FlannelHi Gasoline, how can we help you?20:39
ikonia@bansearch artur20:40
ubottuNo matches found for artur!*@* in any channel20:40
FlannelHe's not in BT that I could see20:40
Flanneltritium: I dislike being ignorant.  Whether from my own delisions of gradeur or whatever it is.20:40
tritiumFlannel: I understand.20:41
jrib@mark qb|away has ignored !away for about a month20:42
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tritiumIf I make a mistake, and accidently type !br instead of !pt, I shouldn't have to worry if I offend someone.  That is my only point.20:42
tritiumi.e., people should appreciate honest attempts to help.  We shouldn't be walking on egg shells while trying to assist.20:43
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ikonia!staff DJCanadianJeff21:11
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:11
ikonia!staff | DJCanadianJeff thretening in pm21:11
ubottuDJCanadianJeff thretening in pm: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)21:11
ikonia21:11 <DJCanadianJeff> DIRE IN A FIRE NOOB21:11
Flanneldire, eh?21:11
ikoniahe meant die21:12
FlannelI think the misspelling for the sake of rhyme is a good trade off21:12
ikoniaha ha ha21:12
ikoniaonly just noted that21:12
FlannelOr perhaps he's stuck in a canadian textile sweatshop that's caught in a blazing inferno, and he's asking for help!21:16
Flannel(Dyer in a Fire)21:17
* jpds looks at Ganja_Smoker in #u.21:32
ikonia!staff | BiTTraffic spamming advertising urls 21:50
ubottuBiTTraffic spamming advertising urls: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)21:50
* jussi01 waves21:50
jussi01heya ikonia21:51
jussi01hows things?21:51
ikoniabusy busy busy21:52
ikoniawhat's going on your end21:52
jussi01not so much. got time for a pm?21:52
jussi01heya Seeker`21:58
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