[00:00] <kathryn> 8.10
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: can you pastebin "lsmod"
[00:01] <kathryn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99308/
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: what exactly are you having troubles with your wireless? does it not connect? or not find any access points?
[00:04] <Jinto> It doesn't see the wireless card.
[00:05] <S-i-A> srry the problem is still her
[00:05] <S-i-A> i can't change the layout!!
[00:05] <S-i-A> any idea?
[00:05] <S-i-A> i mean keyboard layout
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> S-i-A: i remember reading about some bug like that... i don't remember what was the fix...
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> Jinto: you mean it is not showing up in the network-manager applet?
[00:06] <S-i-A> Odd-rationale, which bug, is many many bug
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> S-i-A: something about not being able to change keyboard layout in xfce...
[00:07] <S-i-A> in launchpad
[00:07] <Jinto> I'm completely new to linux, where would I find that?
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> Jinto: first. make sure that you have a notification area on your panel somewhere... then run "nm-applet"
[00:11] <kathryn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99311/
[00:12] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: do you see the applet in the notifications area?
[00:12] <Jinto> Define 'notifications area'...
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> Jinto: be default. there should be a notifications area (aka system tray) next to you clock in th upper right corner. if not... right click panel, add to panel, and add notifications area...
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: one more thing to try is to pastebin "iwlist scanning"
[00:15] <S-i-A> what is mean with XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch"?
[00:16] <S-i-A> is Alt to switch or alt+Ctrl?
[00:17] <kathryn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99315/
[00:21] <Aison`> hello, can I install normal xubuntu on my eeepc 4g or do I have to use eeexubuntu?
[00:21] <Aison`> maybe all drivers are in normal xubuntu now
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: do you have b43-fwcutter installed?
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: and secondly, do what do you have in /lib/firmware ?
[00:24] <kathryn> i do not, and in my attempt to install it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/99318/
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: ok. check lib firmware first...
[00:25] <kathryn> it says /lib/firmware is a directory
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: yes it is...
[00:25] <kathryn> thats all it says
[00:26] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: try "ls -R /lib/firmware" (it might spit out a lot)
[00:27] <kathryn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99320/
[00:32] <Odd-rationale> ok. first make sure that you have all apt process closed: update manager, synaptic, add/remove, apt-get, aptitiude, etc... then try "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[00:32] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: ^
[00:32] <Odd-rationale> or do you still get the same error message?
[00:33] <kathryn> its updating right now...give me a few minutes
[00:33] <Odd-rationale> np
[00:42] <Odd-rationale> Jinto: btw, the networkmanager applet looks like this: http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png
[00:42] <Odd-rationale> you don't have one on your panel?
[00:43] <kathryn> we might after it's done updating...
[00:43] <Odd-rationale> ok..
[00:46] <kathryn> brb
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> kathryn: ok. so the next thing i would try is to install b43-fwcutter. "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" if you have internet connection, select to set it up as well...
[00:59] <Jinto> It's working
[00:59] <Jinto> Thanks
[01:00] <Odd-rationale> internet and all?
[01:00] <Odd-rationale> Jinto: ?
[01:00] <Jinto> Yep
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> cool! :D
[01:01] <Jinto> Thanks again
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> np
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> enjoy xubuntu!
[01:02] <warriorsz> hey
[01:03] <warriorsz> is someone able to give me some installation support, problems changing from ubuntu to xubuntu with grub
[01:03] <S-i-A> Odd-rationale, thanx the solution was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/259489/comments/3
[01:05] <Odd-rationale> S-i-A: hmm... interesting... glad it worked though...
[01:05] <warriorsz> familiar with grub error 15?
[01:06] <S-i-A> i don't know why under debian xfce or fedora xfce have not this problem!
[01:24] <ThePub> there doesn't seem to be an "autostarted apps" concept under xfce, do I need to make a .xsession file?
[01:29] <ethan2> hey can anyone help me my wireless on my computer is not detecting my router
[01:29] <ethan2> please help
[01:30] <ethan2> anyone?
[01:36] <ethan2> is there anyone in this chat room that can help me???????????????
[01:38] <warriorsz> nope
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> ThePub: Applications --> Settings --> Settings Manager --> Autostarted Applications ?
[02:01] <ThePub> that a guess?  :)  no, not there.  gnome has something like that.  startup and sessions doesn't seem to give you a configurable list, just says "save running applications" or something like.  which needless to say doesn't inspire much belief.
[02:09] <ThePub> Odd-rationale: I figured it out, thank you though.  $HOME/.config/autostarted/
[02:09] <ThePub> just put .desktop files in there.
[02:10] <source> saluton
[02:10] <Kiption> anyone know why themes in $HOME/.themes doesn't work?
[02:11] <ThePub> Kiption: last time I had that issues mcs-manager or whatever wasn't running
[02:11] <Kiption> 6820     1  0 13:55 ?        00:00:09 xfce-mcs-manager
[02:11] <Kiption> that one?
[02:11] <ThePub> yeap :)
[02:28] <Sinister`> does it use less more or the same resources for a sound card thats plug in pci or on board ?
[02:34] <ethan> can somoen please help me
[02:34] <ethan> i need help with my wireless
[02:34] <ethan> its not detecting
[02:35] <ethan> please help me?
[02:35] <ethan> please?
[02:35] <ethan> someone anyone please help me?
[03:05] <Sinister>  my fan is too quiet what wires out of the 4 do i have to cut so it runs max rpm ?
[03:12] <microlith> how do you get a wifi adaptor to try connecting to an access point again?
[04:27] <WDC> Hello
[04:27] <WDC> I have XFCE over Ubuntu, not Xubuntu, and I cannot seem to add Desktops
[04:27] <WDC> Can someone please help?
[04:30] <Odd-rationale> WDC: i beleive there is a settings in Appilcations --> settings --> settings manager to ad desktops...
[04:30] <WDC> Odd-rationale: No, you see I did that but they are not showing up
[04:32] <Odd-rationale> WDC: what is there?
[04:32] <WDC> Odd-rationale: Just two that it's always had
[04:32] <WDC> Odd-rationale: I put 4 there, and they don't hsow up
[04:32] <Odd-rationale> WDC: are you in an xfce session or gnome session?
[04:33] <WDC> Odd-rationale: XFCE
[04:33] <linuxlerner> is it yet possible to boot to ram AND use casper persistence?
[04:35] <linuxlerner> i found a post on pendrivelinux.com from 2007 that says that it was not possible then
[04:36] <Odd-rationale> WDC: well, don't have xfce at the moment... so i can't help much more... sorry...
[04:36] <WDC> Odd-rationale: np
[04:37] <linuxlerner> WDC: are you using compiz?
[04:37] <WDC> linuxlerner: Yes
[04:37] <Odd-rationale> oh. well that makes a difference...
[04:37] <Odd-rationale> :P
[04:37] <linuxlerner> i had same problem yesterday
[04:37] <linuxlerner> lol
[04:38] <Odd-rationale> just have to go to ccsm --> general options --> desktop size
[04:38] <linuxlerner> do you have the compizconfig tool
[04:38] <Odd-rationale> !ccsm
[04:38] <WDC> That's crazy
[04:38] <WDC> lol thanks
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> i prefer compizconfig-settings-manager over simple-ccsm...
[04:39] <linuxlerner> ! workspace
[04:39] <linuxlerner> ! viewport
[04:39] <linuxlerner> ! viewports
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> !linuxlerner
[04:39] <linuxlerner> wtf
[04:39] <Odd-rationale> :P
[04:40] <linuxlerner> someone did the viewports yest.
[04:40] <ranfow> sudo aptitude purge ~ilinux-image-.*\(\!`uname -r`\)
[04:40] <ranfow> anyone know why there is ~i before linux-image?
[04:42] <ranfow> any ideas?
[04:43] <Odd-rationale> where are you getting that command?
[04:44] <WDC> Odd-rationale: THANK YOU
[04:44] <ranfow> from a forum
[04:44] <Odd-rationale> WDC: np
[04:44] <linuxlerner> lol it was the compiz-fusion channels bots that i was thinking about
[04:46] <ball> Does it come with monkeys?
[04:47] <ranfow> an reply said it specified the package linux-image**
[04:47] <ranfow> ball: do you ask me?
[04:48] <ball> ranflow: sure :-)
[04:49] <ranfow> ball: I don't know. may be not
[04:50] <ball> Okay, I'll try to get some via rsync then
[04:51] <ranfow> without "~i", the command just add one more return: writing extend state information
[05:26] <tom1122> I'm running eeeXubuntu. After a screwy update a week ago, I no longer have any wireless capable devices apparently. iwconfig and modprobe can't find anything, and i install linux-backports-modules to no avail. What went wrong?
[05:33] <Morgwyr> Could anyone help me find a howto on bridging network connections:
[05:33] <Morgwyr> I've been searching and searching to no avail
[05:47] <source> saluton
[06:27] <mojo> hello everyone
[06:27] <mojo> I would like to ask for help
[06:27] <mojo> my Xubuntu 8.10 now lost sound even though lspci, dmesg indicates that the sound module is loaded
[06:27] <mojo> can some1 sit with me to help me out?
[06:27] <mojo> please
[07:17] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a program that Ubuntu can use in order to find any hidden files or hidden partitions on a hard drive? My reformatted hard drive claims that 7GB of space is used atm and I don't know how.
[07:19] <R1cochet> swap?
[07:20] <illmortal> I'm checkin in partition editor and it doesn't show what exactly is taking up 7GB. And I don't quite know how to mount this drive to check if it has any content inside.
[07:21] <R1cochet> is it a new drive?
[07:21] <illmortal> Yes.
[07:21] <R1cochet> how big is the drive?
[07:22] <illmortal> 500
[07:22] <R1cochet> and it says u have 493?
[07:22] <illmortal> no it says i have 465 then shows 7.8gb is used.
[07:23] <illmortal> thus giving me a total of 458 free space.
[07:23] <R1cochet> and theres nothing on it?
[07:23] <illmortal> 42GB of space taken from me is already pissing me off lol.
[07:23] <illmortal> not that I know of... I just finished reformatting it.
[07:23] <R1cochet> open a file brower and tell it to show hidden files
[07:24] <R1cochet> that 42 is decimal to binary
[07:24] <illmortal> i've gotta mount the HD first, which i forget how, of course.
[07:28] <source> it's ok
[07:28] <source> 7.8GB
[07:29] <source> illmortal, the HDD is using NTFS?
[07:29] <illmortal> nope.... basically before the reformat i had 2 partitions on this SATA drive.
[07:30] <illmortal> 1 was 50gb for Linux the other was like 410gb for space
[07:31] <illmortal> i decided to reformat the drive and use the full drive as a storage drive. So I deleted the partition (both were ext2) recreated the partition as ext2, and format to ext2
[07:31] <source> fat?
[07:31] <source> fat 32?
[07:31] <illmortal> and now all of a sudden i have 7gb of ghost data on my drive.
[07:31] <illmortal> <_< ext2
[07:31] <illmortal> ext2 only.
[07:34] <danyaelx> anybody here who knows where I can find a list everything that is in /dev in xubuntu and its ownership? I'm restoring a /dev that was accidentally chowned with chown -hR username /dev/ I have gotten some if not most of the ownership back to normal but I'd like to check if I've missed anything
[07:51] <source> anybody compiled kernel 2.8.28 in hardy?
[12:16] <csc__> please help me with usb-creator. i am formatting an usb disc in various way, but NO parition is recosgnized by usb-creator? what am i doing weong? in the first case i made a 250GB partition with fat32, bootable, in a second case a smaller one, in the third case I used an ext partition NONE is recognized by usb-creator. i am stuck. as last case i plugged in an old small usb stick and it was recognized immediatly. please help
[12:24] <TheSheep> csc__: if you get no answer here, maybe try on #ubuntu or the forums, they might know more
[14:55] <lufc> ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:55] <lufc> Goddamn stupid pil e of SH!!!!!!!!!!
[14:57] <lufc> eventually.. got back the system from Grub... OK booted Ubuntu.. still little tiny screen within a screen.. altered the .conf and put my video card in i810, default flatscreen monitor 1024*768... rebooted looking good.. big screen filling the monitor.. and Yup there it goes again LOOPING back to Log in!!!
[14:58] <lufc> Is this just a bug in Xubuntu http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg449074.html or what?
[14:59] <knome> lufc, have you tried with ubuntu?
[15:00] <lufc> not yet butwhat about if I try 8.10 of xubuntu the xorg is updated is it any better at detetcing videoi stuff .. I mean damn PuppyLinux works first time out of the box.
[15:00] <knome> which version are you trying to install?
[15:00] <lufc> 8.04.1
[15:01] <lufc> nearly 23 hours now look up
[15:01] <knome> looking at the url you sent, looks like it's not a graphics issue
[15:02] <lufc> well it works fine.. in a little box in the middle of my screen.. but the moent I try and put my card in the .conf it causes this loop
[15:03] <lufc> so now I'm at te login screen again..... if i login it'll lop back here teasing me with a full screen view of the desktop as it goes..
[15:04] <knome> lufc, your description doesn't really match with the bug report.
[15:04] <lufc> so i know its capabale of displaying it
[15:04] <Sinister> is there anything faster or better than devede ?
[15:04] <lufc> well I dunno what all I can tell you is as above..
[15:04] <knome> Sinister, supposedly not
[15:04] <lufc> bug report or not..
[15:05] <Sinister> takes 2 hours sometimes
[15:05] <knome> Sinister, you have a lousy pc? *cough*
[15:06] <knome> lufc, did the live cd work in the correct resolution?
[15:06] <lufc> dunno never used it
[15:06] <Sinister> pent 4 3.2 4gb ram 1.6tb hard drive space i think its ok
[15:06] <knome> Sinister, what are you trying to do with it then?
[15:06] <lufc> ok gone into terminal
[15:07] <lufc> edited the .conf again
[15:07] <knome> Sinister, i don't know devede very well...
[15:07] <Sinister> i want the best quality
[15:07] <lufc> my edit of i810 had been overwitten by something and it ws running as "vesa".. edited it again.. log in as user....
[15:07] <lufc> ....
[15:07] <lufc> ,.. looped back to login again
[15:08] <lufc> back into terminl edit the .conf
[15:09] <knome> !resolution
[15:09] <lufc> edit out all the pci stuff and board stuff. jus put driver i810
[15:10] <lufc> log in
[15:10] <lufc> ......
[15:12] <lufc> looped back
[15:12] <lufc> it never ends
[15:12] <lufc> not very helpful or intuative this?
[15:13] <knome> !manners
[15:13] <lufc> how do i get back to the graphics setup options
[15:13] <knome> did you read the link
[15:13] <knome> ~10 rows back
[15:13] <knome> and can you login with a lower resolution?
[15:14] <lufc> !mannersback
[15:14] <lufc> oh that one doesnt work either!
[15:14] <knome> !resolution | lufc
[15:14] <knome> the last link
[15:15] <lufc> thanks I'll try that
[15:22] <lufc> To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » <--- sorry this is not being accepted syntax error
[15:22] <lufc> knome
[15:23] <knome> without << and >>
[15:23] <knome> ah
[15:23] <knome> ?dm == gdm
[15:23] <knome> i have to go now
[15:24] <knome> i hope you'll get help
[15:36] <lufc> thanks mate
[15:36] <lufc> oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. +this+ looks promising
[15:36] <lufc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6218755&postcount=11
[15:51] <lufc> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! at last
[15:51] <lufc> logged in on the desktop.. no looping full screen
[15:52] <j1mc> :)
[15:52] <lufc> nearly 24 hours later heheh now for bed!
[15:52] <lufc> thanks all... night night
[16:07] <dayo_> do gnome themes work on xubuntu? i'm trying to change my theme, but i can't seem to find any except for the ones at xfce-look.org, and those
[16:07] <dayo_> well
[16:07] <dayo_> they're not what i'm looking for
[17:51] <ThePub> depends on what you mean by "gnome themes".  gnome uses a different window manager so the metacity themes won't work on xfwm that I'm aware of.  icon and gtk+ themes though are not window manager-specific so there should be no issue.
[17:52] <ThePub> dayo_: didn't realize how much time had gone by :)
[18:07] <robile> i just installed xmms over synaptics but i cant find it in my start menu :o -> where should the  program be located? i dont find it in /usr/bin ]-:
[18:10] <nitro2k01> Not sure how linux organizes it files (I'm more into BSD) but try /usr/local
[18:11] <nitro2k01> /usr/local/bin even
[18:11] <nitro2k01> robile:
[18:11] <robile> nitro2k01, thx ill take a look
[18:17] <ThePub> if you've installed xmms it should be listed in the package database.
[18:17] <likemindead> Rhythmbox, Banshee, Amarok, or _________ ? What do you prefer in Xubuntu?
[18:17] <ThePub> quickest way to tell from the commandline would probably be dpkg:  dpkg -l xmms
[18:17] <ThePub> and dpkg -L xmms would list the files and their locations
[18:18] <ThePub> likemindead: mpd, it works anywhere I am ;)
[18:18] <sinbox> is it xmms or xmms2 robile ?
[18:19] <likemindead> mpd? New to me.
[18:19] <robile> sinbox, xmm2
[18:19] <ThePub> it's a player daemon with a zillion frontends.
[18:19] <robile> The-Kernel, thaaaaaaaaanx, that command rox! i will write it down
[18:19] <sinbox> mpd sounds good, apparently it can stream to icecast2 as well
[18:19] <likemindead> A bit over my head, I think. But cool sounding.
[18:20] <likemindead> The latest Banshee is working best for my large library.
[18:20] <The-Kernel> lol no problem
[18:22] <sinbox> OK I haven't tried xmms2 robile  so can't really help, I guess you'll have to RTFM on this, but same as mpd it's a demon and you need a frontend to tune into it if I read correctgly
[18:22] <robile> i already found it sinbox but thx
[18:57] <guyiom> back
[18:57] <likemindead> IN BLACK?
[18:58]  * likemindead plays air guitar ;D
[19:00] <guyiom> haha sorry for the useless comment
[19:01] <likemindead> Hmm... apparently The-Kernel is not an AC/DC fan. :(
[19:09]  * likemindead is away: I'm busy so STFU.
[19:16] <sinbox> tsk tsk: language
[19:19]  * likemindead is back (gone 00:09:58)
[19:19] <likemindead> J/K LOL ZOMGWTFBBQ!!1!
[19:20] <likemindead> Anyone here use XSane?
[19:20] <likemindead> I'm getting weird errors when I open or close it but it seems to work fine. :-/
[19:21] <sinbox> I have no problems except it won't scan unless I resize the scan area
[19:21] <sinbox> otherwise I get errors
[19:21] <likemindead> Bleh.
[19:22] <likemindead> Know of any decent alternatives or is XSane pretty much it?
[19:22] <sinbox> well, truth be told: I haven't look ed for alternative, in the end it works fine
[19:23] <likemindead> True.
[19:23] <sinbox> and Canon is not the best manufacturer for linux drivers
[19:23] <sinbox> they are seriously well hidden on their websites
[19:23] <likemindead> Ah. I'm using an HP Officejet. Used the latest hplip too.
[19:25] <ThePub> I think you're pretty well stuck with Sane, even if it'll drive you the opposite.
[19:25] <sinbox> in san E.T. is good for me
[19:42] <ron_o> what's the command to use for xubuntu to switch desktops?
[19:43] <ron_o> I'm trying to set up my own shortcuts but for the life of me I can't find the command to do so.
[19:43] <likemindead> Ctrl+Alt+right or left arrow
[19:44] <ron_o> no, the command.
[19:44] <ron_o> I can type 'ctrl + f1'
[19:44] <ron_o> to 'f4' and it will work.
[19:46] <ron_o> I know that xfce is trying to be gui based. But sometimes a simple file is just plain easier to manipulate like in fluxbox.
[19:51] <ThePub> huh?
[19:51] <ThePub> oh
[19:51] <ThePub> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts tab
[19:52] <ThePub> To edit the default set you have to first click "Add" and name the changes.
[19:52] <ThePub> well that's not what you want, sorry
[19:52] <ThePub> same concept, but it's "Window Manager", then the "Keyboard" tab :)
[19:56] <likemindead> (I'm using Compiz, BTW...)
[20:17] <ron_o> ThePub, I'm asking for the command. you can't do anything without a command. i know all that.
[20:17] <ron_o> in my shortcut keys file I see nothing suggesting the command to change desktops.
[20:18] <sinbox> add one?
[20:19] <ron_o> no, chage desktops with shortcut key.
[20:19] <ron_o> there is one built in, but I'd like to change it to my own.
[20:19] <ThePub> unlike fluxbox, xfce actually has a good shortcut editor if you use it.  there's really no advantage to editing the file.
[20:19] <ThePub> USE THE EDITOR
[20:19] <ron_o> ThePub, I am.
[20:19] <ron_o> what's the command for changing desktops. :/
[20:20] <alienkid> Hi I just installed xubuntu and My external speakers aren't working
[20:20] <ron_o> there's xflock4 to lock the screen and xfrun4 to run a command.
[20:20] <ron_o> alienkid, are headphones working?
[20:21] <alienkid> let me cheek
[20:21] <ron_o> run $aplay -l to see if your OS detects your sound card.
[20:21] <ron_o> back to the other: what command to switch desktops?
[20:22] <sinbox> sorry not on Xfce right now ron_o , but if you are editing the shortcuts you can possibly create your own?
[20:22] <ron_o> that's what I want. :)
[20:22] <ron_o> yah.
[20:23] <csc__> is there some who can explain why usb creator does not accept/recognize usb hard drives and only allows usb optical stickys?
[20:24] <alienkid> when I try to run  $aplay -l the terminal tells me: "bash: -l command not found"
[20:24] <ron_o> that's an Elll   'l'
[20:24] <ron_o> type in $aplay and see what you get.
[20:24] <alienkid> nothing happens
[20:25] <ron_o> that's an 'l' after a k right?
[20:25] <ron_o> 'l' as in Lemon?
[20:25] <alienkid> yes
[20:25] <sinbox> you're not putting the $ in there are you?
[20:26] <alienkid> I was
[20:26] <ron_o> that just denotes it's command line is all.
[20:26] <ron_o> skip the $
[20:26] <sinbox> and without it you get results?
[20:26] <alienkid> yes
[20:27] <ron_o> what prints out? "don't quote it
[20:27] <ron_o> does it recognize your soundcard?
[20:27] <alienkid> yes
[20:27] <ron_o> does your headphones work?
[20:27] <alienkid> at least I think so
[20:28] <ron_o> quote one line of it.
[20:28] <ron_o> I just didn't want you to paste too much here. :0
[20:28] <ron_o> ;)
[20:28] <sinbox> yeah, the spambots are watching us
[20:28] <sinbox> m00m
[20:29] <alienkid> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
[20:29] <ron_o> ok.. os it's probably in your mixer.
[20:29] <ron_o> try $xfce4-mixer
[20:29] <alienkid> what would it be called in the mixer
[20:30] <alienkid> ok volume control came up
[20:30] <ron_o> probably HDA intel.. but don't know.
[20:30] <ron_o> put everything to max..
[20:30] <ron_o> and see ifyou get sound then.
[20:31] <alienkid> found it
[20:31] <ron_o> then just fool with it like I do. :)
[20:31] <alienkid> my speakers are making breathing like noises after raising frount
[20:31] <alienkid> front
[20:32] <ron_o> that has to do with your sound card and or speakers. Not xubuntu.
[20:32] <sinbox> make sure the source is also turned up
[20:32] <ron_o> as long as you get sound, you're on your own. :)
[20:32]  * sinbox usually turns everything up to 11
[20:32] <alienkid> how do I test them?
[20:33] <sinbox> what are you actually playing CD mp3 line in?
[20:33] <alienkid> hmm?
[20:34] <sinbox> erm let me check if I have enough lecky to start a 3rd machine, brb
[20:41] <bjorn_> hi, I turned off the xfce4-panel so now i only got a desktop backgrund. How can i start the panel up in the "default" way again=
[20:45] <sinbox> erm start a terminal somehow and type: xfce-panel in it
[20:46] <sinbox> oops no xfce on the other machine
[20:47] <bjorn_> sinbox, i can but when i close the terminal it closes with it. I want to run it in the background
[20:48] <sinbox> add & at the end of the command line
[20:48] <sinbox> "&" without the qoutes
[20:48] <sinbox> quotes*
[21:01] <juanantonio> Hello
[21:01] <juanantonio> There someone?
[21:01] <sinbox> sort of
[21:02] <juanantonio> I had installed Kubuntu 8.04, but I have installed xubuntu desktop from the repos, it is very cool and fast
[21:02] <Elven__> hello everyone
[21:03] <juanantonio> but how is that changing my system? Have I the same kernel and system number?
[21:03] <Elven__> can someone give me a little hint? how can i install xfce 4.6 to ubuntu intrepid?
[21:03] <sinbox> juanantonio, same as, just the desktop environment changed
[21:03] <juanantonio> Elven, I am so new, but I run Adept or Synaptic and I installed Xubuntu desktop from the repos
[21:04] <juanantonio> Sinbox, so i have Xubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04, both the same, both 64 bits and so on
[21:04] <Elven__> juanantonio: yes, i know, but it will install stable 4.4.2 xfce and i like to test 4.6
[21:05] <juanantonio> Ok, then I can't help you, hehehe, I advised I am so new in Linux and even newer in Xubuntu
[21:05] <Elven__> thats ok ;)
[21:06] <sinbox> guess you might have to compile it Elven__ or it might be in the beta repositories (sorry don't know how to enable those)
[21:06] <source> saluton
[21:06] <Elven__> sure i am looking for beta repositories but cannot find them :(
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Elven__: I think it is in proposed
[21:07] <sinbox> ask in #ubuntu maybe, more people in there
[21:07] <Elven__> ok thanks
[21:09] <juanantonio> How can I see the volume circle in the taskbar? I can't just do it by Adding element to panel
[21:11] <charlie-tca> juanantonio: what version of Xubuntu are you using. Normally, right-click the panel and select "Add new item"
[21:12] <juanantonio> Yes, but I can't see it
[21:12] <juanantonio> I use 8.04 and click that
[21:12] <charlie-tca> should be volume control
[21:14] <juanantonio> Yes, but I click and nothing happens
[21:14] <charlie-tca> Looks like a speaker with a line along side it?
[21:14] <juanantonio> I can see up a door, time, transmission item, network and date
[21:15] <charlie-tca> I believe that is a bug then
[21:15] <charlie-tca> You could report it in launchpad, if it is not already
[21:15] <juanantonio> I don't know, if I enter my nephew's session, I can see it ;)
[21:16] <charlie-tca> It may be conficting with another applet.
[21:16] <j1mc> juanantonio: can you try adding the volume applet to the panel?
[21:16] <juanantonio> charlie, but you know what, I have kubuntu and downloaded Xubuntu desktop, and you know it is not completely compatible, or i think so
[21:17] <sinbox> shouldn't really make that much difference as you only run one at a time though (or am I over-positive on this?)
[21:17] <juanantonio> I have dragged the item and now it is working, thank you
[21:17] <alienkid> Hi back again
[21:18] <j1mc> hi alienkid
[21:18] <j1mc> charlie-tca: hello.  :)
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Hi j1mc
[21:18] <juanantonio> Sinbox, that's not correct, I exit and open one or two sessions depending on the programs I am using ;)
[21:19] <alienkid> Right now I am trying to network with my brothers Windows XP computer
[21:19] <sinbox> oh ok juanantonio
[21:19] <juanantonio> for instance, I prefer instant messeging from KDE and Kopete, but if I am downloading something or web browsing, Xubuntu is very efficient
[21:19] <charlie-tca> juanantonio: I hope it stays when you restart. I remember seeing a bug report on that, and they have to drag it to the panel each restart
[21:20] <juanantonio> No problem, last time it started and the only difference is that I entered KDE session before sliding to Xfce
[21:20] <alienkid> following the guide in the xubuntu doc I type "$sudp smbpasswd -1 [myuesrname]" it then asks for my password but I can't type my password(i.e the only key that works is enter)
[21:20] <alienkid> *sudo
[21:21] <sinbox> alienkid: the password does not appear, just type it and then press enter
[21:21] <alienkid> I have but it refuses it
[21:22] <alienkid> would a reboot help?
[21:23] <alienkid> ok I am just going to stop bugging you guys becuase it seems I have to do everything 3 times before it works
[21:23] <alienkid> so bye again
[21:23] <sinbox> you're not bugging us alienkid
[21:23] <sinbox> :)
[21:23] <juanantonio> Yes, it is perfect now. The only difference now between KDE and Xfce sessions is only that in KDE I have Compiz running and customized
[21:24] <alienkid> ok i'll come back if I need more help
[21:25] <sinbox> compiz: wow, I can't run that on the machines I've got :)
[21:27] <Nalleman> How is system sound turned off
[21:27] <Nalleman> the annoying "beep"
[21:27] <j1mc> Nalleman: do you mean the beep?
[21:28] <Nalleman> yes
[21:28] <sinbox> plyers
[21:28] <juanantonio> sinbox, I have a powerful machine, but Vista is like Sauron: its needs have no end
[21:29] <j1mc> Nalleman: this page explains how to do it:  http://tinyurl.com/29kuqw
[21:29] <j1mc> i've done that myself, and know that it works.
[21:29] <juanantonio> and besides, I had a worm in Vista and shifted to Linux, i don't want to know any more of Vista...only, to play ;)
[21:30] <j1mc> Nalleman: I recommend adding, "blacklist pcspkr" (without the quotes) to your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file
[21:30] <j1mc> you can just add "blacklist pcspkr" to the end of that file.
[21:31] <j1mc> that will keep it away between reboots.  if you want it to go away now, just enter, "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr"
[21:31] <sinbox> I like this best on your link j1mc : “the system beeps for a reason–it’s trying to tell you something–you should leave it on.”
[21:31] <Nalleman> jlmc thanks
[21:33] <alienkid> I set up my SMB password but the network places folder isn't in places
[21:34] <alienkid> also I can't find network settings in applications -> system
[21:34] <charlie-tca> alienkid: network settings in not used anymore starting with 8.10
[21:35] <alienkid> ah outdated doc then...
[21:35] <charlie-tca> Rather, Network and Network Tools
[21:36] <j1mc> alienkid: you can install gnome-network-admin
[21:36] <sinbox> I find samba very hapahazard on my 7.10 :/  I haven't given it a proper try on 8.04 yet
[21:36] <j1mc> charlie-tca: what is Network Tools?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> Used in 8.04 and below to ping, whois, check what the connection is, etc
[21:37] <charlie-tca> It installed in Applications -> system
[21:37] <alienkid> so is there any way to follow along with the doc using the new tools and if so which ones
[21:37] <charlie-tca> What doc
[21:37] <alienkid> xubuntu doc
[21:38] <robile> i installed xmms2 over synaptics but there is no GUI - what can i do? :-(
[21:38] <charlie-tca> What is the URL?
[21:38] <alienkid> file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/index.html
[21:39] <alienkid> form the Firefox addressbar
[21:39] <Nalleman> Now i would like to turn of the "drums" and those sounds. i suppose its in a menu somewhere but I cant find it
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Connecting to the internet?
[21:40] <sinbox> robile, check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162369
[21:40] <robile> sinbox, thank you
[21:41] <sinbox> ah those drums........ loging sound are great not
[21:41] <charlie-tca> alienkid: do you have the Network manager in the panel?? Looks like two computers...
[21:41] <alienkid> yes
[21:42] <j1mc> Nalleman: "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-sounds"
[21:42] <charlie-tca> right click it and left click "Edit connections"
[21:42] <charlie-tca> Should be one for eth0?
[21:43] <alienkid> auto eth0 yes
[21:43] <sinbox> j1mc, how would you go about changing the login sounds though (and ideally make them user specific)?
[21:43] <charlie-tca> Left click it, then click edit
[21:43] <alienkid> ok
[21:44] <charlie-tca> then click the last tab, change from auto DHCP to manual
[21:44] <alienkid> done
[21:45] <j1mc> sinbox: applications > settings > login window  (will require you to enter a password) > accessibility
[21:45] <charlie-tca> click in the addresses window, then click Add
[21:45] <j1mc> sinbox: not sure if it can be set user-specific, but i don't think so
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Type in the ip address, click in the hilight under netmask, add it, click the hilight under gateway and add it
[21:46] <sinbox> woldn't have thought so either but I thought I'd ask j1mc
[21:46] <charlie-tca> Then click in the white area of addresses again or it won´t save the gateway
[21:47] <alienkid> how do I figure out the gateway and and netmask? Also of which macine??
[21:48] <charlie-tca> If you are using Static IP, you assign it. The gateway is the ip of the router you use
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Netmask is normally 255.255.255.0
[21:49] <alienkid> how would I find them though?
[21:49] <Nalleman> thunar does not seem to support tabs, is there any other file browser application that does (still lightweight)
[21:50] <charlie-tca> alienkid: I don´t know. You should be able to enter the router configuration and find it there. You can try
[21:50] <charlie-tca> 192.168.0.1 for most routers, 192.168.1.1 for Linksys
[21:51] <alienkid> also what is it for the machine running Ubuntu or  the one running windows(the IP address I mean
[21:51] <alienkid> )
[21:51] <charlie-tca> j1mc: The docs are out of date for 8.10 Connecting to the Internet.
[21:52] <charlie-tca> Gateway and netmask stay the same for both
[21:52] <juanantonio> Nalleman, try PC Man Folder
[21:52] <charlie-tca> alienkid: Are you running both machines at the same time
[21:52] <alienkid> ok
[21:52] <charlie-tca> ?
[21:52] <juanantonio> or something like that, it is the one coming with lXDE desktop
[21:53] <juanantonio> Nalleman, PCMan File Manager
[21:53] <adrift> hello everyone. I have a few issues I was hoping someone could help me with in Xubuntu, and please excuse my chat etiquette as I don't use IRC all that much anymore. Problem 1: I just lowered the resolution and I'm finding that the wallpaper now looks sorta fuzzy, as though the color settings have been set lower with the change in resolution. Is anyone aware of this sort of issue, and is there a way to fix it?
[21:54] <Nalleman> juanantonio, ok, will do
[21:54] <juanantonio> Nalleman, it works very fast, and lloks similar to Thunar
[21:54] <charlie-tca> adrift: is it an LCD?
[21:54] <adrift> yes
[21:54] <adrift> its an old Dell laptop
[21:55] <charlie-tca> A lot of LCD's have fixed resolution for the best image. Any change makes it fuzzy
[21:55] <adrift> darn. the fixed resolution was just too tiny.
[21:55] <adrift> ok well thank you Charlie
[21:56] <charlie-tca> go in and change the dpi setting.
[21:56] <alienkid> charlie both machines are on
[21:57] <adrift> the dpi setting? where would that be?
[21:57] <charlie-tca> adrift: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> User Interface
[21:57] <alienkid> I found the command to see IP address and things it's "ifconfig"
[21:57] <alienkid> in a terminal
[21:57] <charlie-tca> adrift: Font DPI
[21:57] <charlie-tca> change the number to bigger for bigger fonts, I think
[21:58] <adrift> charlie-tca ok i'll try that. thank
[21:58] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[21:58] <charlie-tca> alienkid: Yes. Does that give the gateway and IP you wanted?
[21:59] <alienkid> unsure
[21:59] <alienkid> I can't understand what it printed out
[21:59] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Paste it to pastebin and I'll look at it
[22:00] <charlie-tca> Normally for two systems, either you let DHCP handle it or you assign the IP addresses yourself
[22:01] <alienkid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99845/
[22:02] <charlie-tca> According to that, you are connected using IP 192.168.1.47, Netmask is 255.255.255.0, I don't see a gateway
[22:02] <charlie-tca> You should have the internet up and running
[22:04] <charlie-tca> Your gateway is probably 192.168.1.0 by that, since the Broadcast Address is 192.168.1.255
[22:04] <alienkid> internet is but I can't see my windows machines
[22:05] <charlie-tca> That's different. Install pyneighborhood
[22:05] <charlie-tca> Then I don´t know how to make it work after that.
[22:06] <alienkid> so I can change method back to automatic
[22:06] <charlie-tca> If that works, yes.
[22:07] <charlie-tca> Just hit cancel if the window is still open
[22:07] <alienkid> also how can I stop ubuntu from beeping every time I try to move past the end of a line of text
[22:07] <charlie-tca> Mine don´t beep. Which program? or is it all of them?
[22:08] <alienkid> xchat
[22:08] <alienkid> and search boxes in firefox
[22:09] <charlie-tca> XChat is Settings -> Preferences -> Sounds; turn off the item you don´t want to hear.
[22:09] <juanantonio> Go to KDE, bye
[22:09] <charlie-tca> Firefox I don´t know.
[22:10] <charlie-tca> To turn off the speaker, scroll xchat up to j1mc telling how.
[22:11] <alienkid> thanks
[22:11] <alienkid> dinner bye
[22:11] <charlie-tca> You´re welcome. I´m glad I could help. Good luck
[22:14] <adrift> charlie-tca: I changed the dpi and it looks a lot better now. Thanks. ok I have a second question. I'd like to add an icon or two to the desktop. As far as I can tell though, there are only a select few file/launcer icons that you can add to the desktop. Is there a way to add more?
[22:20] <Nalleman> now that i downloaded my new file browser (pcmanfm) how can i make it default?
[22:26] <robile> is there a way (plugin?) to get xmms to show a window in which other playlistS are shown? to be able to switch between the playlists?
[22:29] <ThePub> adrift: what do you mean by "an icon"?  you want to put folders, files, or something on the desktop?
[22:30] <Nalleman> can I make click default for opening files?
[22:30] <Nalleman> single click that is
[22:31] <adrift> ThePub, essentially, yes
[22:31] <adrift> ah he's gone
[22:32] <adrift> welcome back ThePub
[22:32] <adrift> anyways, to answer your question. yeah, that's sorta what i was getting at. I wanted to be able to launch swiftfox from the desktop.
[22:36] <ThePub> I've never had occasion to want to do that, and it doesn't appear as easy as dragging from the menu.  Although you can drag any file from the file manager to the desktop as a copy, link, or move.
[22:38] <adrift> hmm... i guess the question then is how to add swiftfox to the file manager so that I can drag it from there to the desktop.
[23:05] <juanantonio> Hello, I am back again
[23:33] <Aquina> 'lo
[23:36] <source> o7