| Hobbsee | right. prodded. | 00:02 |
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| soc | Lupine: full bug reports here: | 00:03 |
| soc | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378338 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/157398 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217790 | 00:03 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 378338 in settings-daemon "Deal with X servers which misreport the screen's dimensions" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 00:03 |
| hggdh | Lupine, I had this issue, will check if still there (since then I moved out of LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF8 into en_US.UTF8) | 00:04 |
| hggdh | yes, independent of locale | 00:06 |
| duanedesign | soc: I also triaged a bug awhile back related to this, bug #310353 | 00:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 310353 in gnome-control-center "Default font size too large if using native DPI" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/310353 | 00:09 |
| soc | the whole thing is a mess ... | 00:10 |
| soc | driver "assumes" dpi -> driver reports the wrong dpi to xorg -> toolkits expect that xorg doesn't report the right value, assume something themselves -> toolkits have user-changeable dpi-settings, so users can fix it theirselves -> users do stupid things with it like using it to change their font size | 00:11 |
| soc | imo, most of the time xorg is right now, so gnome shoouldn't think it is smarter than xorg | 00:12 |
| duanedesign | So at this point making the font smaller would effect everyone who accepts the default. If the setting in the future starts to react to a variable dpi, instead of defaulting to 96dpi | 00:13 |
| duanedesign | then this might be a relevant bug | 00:14 |
| soc | the bug is certainly right | 00:14 |
| soc | the default font is much too big, because developers "assume" that the dpi is wrong, so they take something idiotproof | 00:15 |
| soc | so that the gui is readable even if it reports 20 dpi too much | 00:16 |
| soc | basically i would be happy if gnome would accpet the dpi from the xserver | 00:16 |
| soc | reducing the font size to something sensible will be another thing | 00:16 |
| duanedesign | ahh, interesting... | 00:18 |
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| soc | i have added a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/157398 | 01:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 157398 in gnome-control-center "GNOME default DPI doesn't match X default DPI" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 01:28 |
| soc | if someone would have an idea where to look, i might solve the problem | 01:29 |
| Flare183 | I am a beginner bugsquad member. How do I mark the bug as Triged? | 02:29 |
| * Flare183 can't spell | 02:29 | |
| nellery | Flare183: you must become a member of ubuntu-bugcontrol | 02:30 |
| Flare183 | nellery: umm ok I'll look into that | 02:31 |
| nellery | Flare183: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl | 02:31 |
| hggdh | soc, ping | 02:37 |
| soc | yes? | 02:38 |
| hggdh | #bugs is not the correct channel for upstream on the bug | 02:38 |
| hggdh | this channel is for bug control work... you can try #gnome | 02:38 |
| soc | ah ok | 02:39 |
| soc | i already tried that ... | 02:39 |
| soc | no problem | 02:39 |
| soc | good night then | 02:39 |
| hggdh | you can also reopen the bug, and explain why you think it should be reopened | 02:39 |
| hggdh | soc, also please keep in mind... on upstream: ask your question, and wait. Be patient. It may be some hours before a response (my record was 2 days) | 02:40 |
| soc | ok | 02:44 |
| soc | bye | 02:44 |
| Lupine | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/311615 This should be WishListed | 03:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 311615 in pidgin "New chat windows unconditionally spawn in top left" [Undecided,New] | 03:26 |
| Lupine | And this one too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/311731 | 03:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 311731 in gimp "gimp "save a copy" tooltip help confusing" [Undecided,New] | 03:31 |
| Lupine | both should be WishList | 03:31 |
| Lupine | and this third one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/311503 | 03:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 311503 in pidgin "different window sizes" [Undecided,New] | 03:35 |
| Lupine | geesh...WishList crazy tonight :-) | 03:35 |
| LordTatty | I think this bug should be set to wishlist, thanks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/311992/ | 05:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 311992 in ubuntu "Screen Resolution Timeout" [Undecided,New] | 05:24 |
| * Hobbsee is sure you should be able to find the correct package for it, to actually triage it, too | 05:25 | |
| Hobbsee | hrm. I thought it did that. apparently it doesn't. | 05:28 |
| LordTatty | I have set the package to xorg, is that right? This is my first attempt at this... :-) | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | i'd assume it's gnome-control-center, as it's a module of that | 05:31 |
| * Hobbsee restarts X in an attempt to unborkify it | 05:31 | |
| LordTatty | ok, ill change it, thanks | 05:32 |
| Hobbsee | !info mesa intrepid | 06:24 |
| ubottu | Package mesa does not exist in intrepid | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | !info mesa-utils intrepid | 06:24 |
| ubottu | mesa-utils (source: mesa): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component main, is extra. Version 7.2-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 45 kB, installed size 160 kB | 06:24 |
| dholbach | good morning and happy new year! | 06:30 |
| CarlFK | intrepid - python; help(); modules = AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'inotify' | 06:49 |
| CarlFK | but I have installed a few python modules. can someone try that and see if it errors? | 06:49 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.com/105483/ details | 06:50 |
| duanedesign | a bug, that was more of a support question, has been resolved by the reported. What is the protocol for such a bug. Does it get closed somehow? | 06:52 |
| moose1 | hi | 06:54 |
| moose1 | can someone help my with triaging two bugs? | 06:54 |
| moose1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/312302 | 06:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 312302 in ubuntu "Audio Line out does not work on Medion MD 96630" [Undecided,New] | 06:54 |
| moose1 | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/313486 | 06:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 313486 in ubuntu "internal microphone doesn't work on Medion MD 96630" [Undecided,New] | 06:55 |
| duanedesign | moose1: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/302145 | 07:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302145 in ubuntu "Soundcard not found on 8.10 (Medion Akoya MD96640)" [Undecided,New] | 07:03 |
| thekorn | good morning bugsquad. | 07:29 |
| dholbach | hiya thekorn | 07:29 |
| thekorn | hello dholbach | 07:31 |
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| marmuta | Hi, I somehow managed to enter the identical bug report twice. | 14:18 |
| marmuta | Can someone please delete one of them? | 14:18 |
| marmuta | #314041 #314041 | 14:18 |
| marmuta | sorry #314040 and #314041 | 14:19 |
| thekorn | marmuta, hi, we are not able to delete bugreports, just mark the duplicate as a duplicate of the first one | 14:19 |
| thekorn | or set the status of the second one to invalid | 14:19 |
| thekorn | bug 314041 | 14:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314041 in wireshark "Virtual capture interface "any" is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314041 | 14:20 |
| marmuta | ok, wil do, thank you | 14:20 |
| bddebian | Boo | 14:55 |
| MrKanister | Hi. Can someone have a look at bug #188174? It is fixed in the sense that gnome-sessios-remove is no longer available. What to do with it? Thankss. | 14:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 188174 in gnome-session "gnome-session-remove comand line tool not working" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188174 | 14:57 |
| maco | can anyone else on jaunty reproduce X locking up (ctrl alt bksp doesn't work, magic sysrq does) when you try to unlock the gnome volume mixer applet? doesn't seem to happen with any of the other applets | 14:58 |
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| vadi2 | Bug #255137 was incorrectly labelled as duplicate | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 255137 in firefox "Firefox doesn't take over gnome font settings immediately" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255137 | 17:05 |
| vadi2 | How can I remove the duplicate status? | 17:05 |
| maco | vadi2: click on the part that says its a dupe and backspace out the number its a dupe of | 17:06 |
| vadi2 | ok thanks | 17:06 |
| bdmurray | Can anybody test 'do-release-upgrade -d' on intrepid? I'm getting a message about 'No new release found' which I find odd. | 17:45 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/100458/ | 17:47 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: great, not really what I wanted to hear but thanks | 17:48 |
| Palintheus | bdmurray: http://pastebin.ca/1300246 | 17:52 |
| maco | bdmurray: if that's happening, it new. i used that command 3 weeks ago to upgrad | 17:56 |
| bdmurray | It's apt-cacher | 17:56 |
| maco | oh ok | 17:56 |
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| YoBoY | hi | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | hi YoBoY | 19:03 |
| YoBoY | olà BUGabundo | 19:05 |
| YoBoY | i want to help with bug triage, but i don't know where to begin :] (i have already read all the docs) there is so many bugs... :p, do you have some advices ? | 19:08 |
| BUGabundo | YoBoY: just open up LP, and start looking at more recent bugs | 19:10 |
| BUGabundo | or bugs for packages that you care! | 19:10 |
| BUGabundo | or that are about expire | 19:10 |
| BUGabundo | all valid options to get started | 19:11 |
| bdmurray | YoBoY: I recommend looking at software / packages that you use or are intrested in | 19:11 |
| YoBoY | hum... i mix the 2, looking in new bugs to a package i care, and start to see if i can do something... | 19:17 |
| bdmurray | Sounds good, let us know if you have any questions | 19:18 |
| YoBoY | yep :) | 19:19 |
| YoBoY | hum, need help with how to triage bug #314002 , the package concerned is "fortunes" but i don't find it with the "choose..." | 19:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314002 in fortune-mod "fortunes "songs-poems" contains mis-attribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314002 | 19:35 |
| schmiedc | what version of ubuntu do you run? | 19:43 |
| schmiedc | if 8.04 then i would check if thats true | 19:43 |
| schmiedc | but i am also new since yesterday :) | 19:43 |
| YoBoY | 8.10, but this packages is on all the versions, it's on packages.ubuntu.com | 19:44 |
| schmiedc | hmm have some preeinstalled | 19:44 |
| YoBoY | ho... perhaps it's beacause this packages are linked in some way... | 19:44 |
| schmiedc | but the songs not in the specified folder | 19:44 |
| YoBoY | (fortune-mod and fortunes) | 19:44 |
| schmiedc | what for is fortune by the way? | 19:45 |
| YoBoY | yes the songs are in the "fortunes" package | 19:45 |
| YoBoY | for fun only :p | 19:45 |
| YoBoY | it's why i tried to change the package in the bug on LP but can't find it with "choose..." | 19:46 |
| schmiedc | with the folder i meant that in the bug there is a folder were songs are stored | 19:47 |
| YoBoY | the link in packages.ubuntu.com for the "fortunes" packages go to the fortune-mod page in LP | 19:47 |
| schmiedc | i dont have it | 19:47 |
| YoBoY | you don't have this folder? | 19:47 |
| schmiedc | ./songs-poems is missing | 19:47 |
| schmiedc | but i am running also 8.10 | 19:48 |
| schmiedc | not 8.04 as the reporter does | 19:48 |
| YoBoY | you have to install the fortunes package to have the songs-poems | 19:49 |
| YoBoY | ok in LP fortune-mod " Source of: fortune-mod, fortunes, fortunes-min, fortunes-off" so it's the right package, sorry ... :p | 19:49 |
| YoBoY | in this file we have -- "The Clean Song", Oscar Brandt and the reporter say that it should be -- Oscar Brandt, "The Clean Song" | 19:51 |
| YoBoY | any idea who have to care of this upstream? | 19:51 |
| bdmurray | YoBoY: its in debian too | 19:53 |
| YoBoY | arf debian... ¬_¬" | 19:54 |
| Armagguedes | hello | 19:55 |
| Armagguedes | how do i report a bug for jaunty? | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | just mention it on the report | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | and remember to show the version package | 19:56 |
| bdmurray | Armagguedes: about what package? | 19:56 |
| Armagguedes | don't know | 19:57 |
| Armagguedes | it's with the kde panel | 19:57 |
| bdmurray | Armagguedes: first look for a duplicate at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace | 20:04 |
| Armagguedes | what is a CVE bug? | 20:26 |
| greg-g | first hit from google: http://cve.mitre.org/cve/identifiers/index.html | 20:28 |
| greg-g | basically, an universal identifier for known security bugs | 20:28 |
| Armagguedes | ok thanks | 20:29 |
| MrKanister | I wonder what to do with a bug about "gnome-session-remove" because this is no longer available in Intrepid (bug #188174) | 21:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 188174 in gnome-session "gnome-session-remove comand line tool not working" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188174 | 21:16 |
| bdmurray | MrKanister: It depends on the gravity of the bug and why it was removed | 21:31 |
| bdmurray | At first glance the bug doesn't seem SRU worthy | 21:31 |
| Zombie_Gaz | Anyone encounter a bug with tty1. If you log in there... it will count that as a +1 login even after logged out. | 22:01 |
| Zombie_Gaz | ie; I have three users logged in (x-session, bash, and irssi) but system sees 4. | 22:01 |
| Zombie_Gaz | Even a w command shows only my three but says 4 users. | 22:02 |
| maco | Zombie_Gaz: one of you using 2 terms? | 22:10 |
| Zombie_Gaz | yes... but that still accounts for only 3 | 22:15 |
| Zombie_Gaz | a 'w' command says 4 users... however, only three users listed | 22:16 |
| Zombie_Gaz | this only happens after i have logged into tty1 and logged out. | 22:16 |
| Zombie_Gaz | 17:18:32 up 22 min, 4 users, load average: 0.59, 0.36, 0.33 | 22:18 |
| Zombie_Gaz | USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT | 22:18 |
| Zombie_Gaz | gaz tty7 :0 16:57 22:52m 52.47s 0.24s x-session-manager | 22:18 |
| Zombie_Gaz | gaz pts/0 :0.0 16:58 1:40m 0.98s 0.74s irssi | 22:18 |
| Zombie_Gaz | gaz pts/1 :0.0 16:58 0.00s 0.24s 0.00s w | 22:18 |
| Zombie_Gaz | gaz@dante:~$ | 22:18 |
| Zombie_Gaz | It's only on tty1. | 22:19 |
| Zombie_Gaz | Other windows are fine... | 22:20 |
| Zombie_Gaz | I can log in and out of tty2-6 without causing this. | 22:22 |
| bdmurray | which release are you using? | 22:22 |
| Zombie_Gaz | 8.10 | 22:23 |
| bdmurray | I've recreated it on 9.04 | 22:25 |
| maco | i cant get to TTY1 to recreate it on 9.04 -_- | 22:26 |
| bdmurray | maco: I had to go there 2 times ;-) | 22:26 |
| Zombie_Gaz | I first noticed it while remotely accessing my machine via ssh. | 22:26 |
| Zombie_Gaz | Thought it had something to do with ssh. | 22:26 |
| maco | bdmurray: VT switching's broken for you too | 22:27 |
| maco | ? | 22:27 |
| bdmurray | I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and it flicked then went back to X, I pressed it again and I saw tty1 | 22:28 |
| Zombie_Gaz | So... when you log out of tty1, do you see +1 users still listed? | 22:29 |
| maco | see, now *i* try that and on the second time, it just sits there showing me the usplash image with the full loading bar | 22:29 |
| bdmurray | Zombie_Gaz: yes, I do | 22:30 |
| Zombie_Gaz | Ok... just making sure I have something here and not overthinking something silly. | 22:31 |
| hggdh | maco, vt-switching is broken on Intrepid and +1 | 22:31 |
| maco | hggdh: and hardy depending on your graphics card | 22:34 |
| maco | hggdh: i have no tty's on my hardy lappy | 22:35 |
| maco | not sure if that only happens after suspend or is always | 22:35 |
| andersk | One of these bugs is bug 271962. | 22:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 271962 in consolekit "VT-switching from X returns you to X the first time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271962 | 22:35 |
| maco | used to be neon green with grey text after suspend. now def. no tty after suspend. not sure if there's tty before suspend or not. | 22:35 |
| bdmurray | andersk: thanks! | 22:37 |
| andersk | Another is bug 304136, which does not have very much information currently. | 22:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 304136 in usplash "[jaunty] corrupted console when using usplash" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304136 | 22:40 |
| hggdh | maco, usually it works after the second try | 23:26 |
| hggdh | (the tty switch, I mean) | 23:26 |
| maco | hggdh: on hardy it doesnt return me to X on first try. it just gives me a black screen with no prompt every try | 23:27 |
| hggdh | weird... | 23:27 |
| maco | the returning to X on first try thing starts in intrepid | 23:28 |
| hggdh | but on Intrepid it seems to affect all cards | 23:29 |
| crimsun | it didn't affect mine using vesa or proprietary Nvidia | 23:30 |
| maco | ugh this is confusing | 23:30 |
| crimsun | of course it has nothing to do with the actual graphics driver, as others using vesa or proprietary Nvidia are able to reproduce the symptom | 23:30 |
| maco | ok so my intel i965 has no ttys at all, and it does not bounce me back to X in hardy. my intel i945 in jaunty does bounce back to X. | 23:31 |
| hggdh | we were discussing this some weeks ago, and people considered a probable console-kit issue | 23:32 |
| crimsun | hggdh: it is consolekit | 23:40 |
| crimsun | the question is how many other components are interacting poorly with it or whether it's solely ck | 23:41 |
| hggdh | crimsun, thanks | 23:42 |
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