[00:02] right. prodded. [00:03] Lupine: full bug reports here: [00:03] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378338 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/157398 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217790 [00:03] Gnome bug 378338 in settings-daemon "Deal with X servers which misreport the screen's dimensions" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [00:04] Lupine, I had this issue, will check if still there (since then I moved out of LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF8 into en_US.UTF8) [00:06] yes, independent of locale [00:09] soc: I also triaged a bug awhile back related to this, bug #310353 [00:09] Launchpad bug 310353 in gnome-control-center "Default font size too large if using native DPI" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/310353 [00:10] the whole thing is a mess ... [00:11] driver "assumes" dpi -> driver reports the wrong dpi to xorg -> toolkits expect that xorg doesn't report the right value, assume something themselves -> toolkits have user-changeable dpi-settings, so users can fix it theirselves -> users do stupid things with it like using it to change their font size [00:12] imo, most of the time xorg is right now, so gnome shoouldn't think it is smarter than xorg [00:13] So at this point making the font smaller would effect everyone who accepts the default. If the setting in the future starts to react to a variable dpi, instead of defaulting to 96dpi [00:14] then this might be a relevant bug [00:14] the bug is certainly right [00:15] the default font is much too big, because developers "assume" that the dpi is wrong, so they take something idiotproof [00:16] so that the gui is readable even if it reports 20 dpi too much [00:16] basically i would be happy if gnome would accpet the dpi from the xserver [00:16] reducing the font size to something sensible will be another thing [00:18] ahh, interesting... === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [01:28] i have added a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/157398 [01:28] Ubuntu bug 157398 in gnome-control-center "GNOME default DPI doesn't match X default DPI" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [01:29] if someone would have an idea where to look, i might solve the problem [02:29] I am a beginner bugsquad member. How do I mark the bug as Triged? [02:29] * Flare183 can't spell [02:30] Flare183: you must become a member of ubuntu-bugcontrol [02:31] nellery: umm ok I'll look into that [02:31] Flare183: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl [02:37] soc, ping [02:38] yes? [02:38] #bugs is not the correct channel for upstream on the bug [02:38] this channel is for bug control work... you can try #gnome [02:39] ah ok [02:39] i already tried that ... [02:39] no problem [02:39] good night then [02:39] you can also reopen the bug, and explain why you think it should be reopened [02:40] soc, also please keep in mind... on upstream: ask your question, and wait. Be patient. It may be some hours before a response (my record was 2 days) [02:44] ok [02:44] bye [03:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/311615 This should be WishListed [03:26] Launchpad bug 311615 in pidgin "New chat windows unconditionally spawn in top left" [Undecided,New] [03:31] And this one too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/311731 [03:31] Launchpad bug 311731 in gimp "gimp "save a copy" tooltip help confusing" [Undecided,New] [03:31] both should be WishList [03:35] and this third one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/311503 [03:35] Launchpad bug 311503 in pidgin "different window sizes" [Undecided,New] [03:35] geesh...WishList crazy tonight :-) [05:24] I think this bug should be set to wishlist, thanks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/311992/ [05:24] Launchpad bug 311992 in ubuntu "Screen Resolution Timeout" [Undecided,New] [05:25] * Hobbsee is sure you should be able to find the correct package for it, to actually triage it, too [05:28] hrm. I thought it did that. apparently it doesn't. [05:30] I have set the package to xorg, is that right? This is my first attempt at this... :-) [05:31] i'd assume it's gnome-control-center, as it's a module of that [05:31] * Hobbsee restarts X in an attempt to unborkify it [05:32] ok, ill change it, thanks [06:24] !info mesa intrepid [06:24] Package mesa does not exist in intrepid [06:24] !info mesa-utils intrepid [06:24] mesa-utils (source: mesa): Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component main, is extra. Version 7.2-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 45 kB, installed size 160 kB [06:30] good morning and happy new year! [06:49] intrepid - python; help(); modules = AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'inotify' [06:49] but I have installed a few python modules. can someone try that and see if it errors? [06:50] http://dpaste.com/105483/ details [06:52] a bug, that was more of a support question, has been resolved by the reported. What is the protocol for such a bug. Does it get closed somehow? [06:54] hi [06:54] can someone help my with triaging two bugs? [06:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/312302 [06:54] Launchpad bug 312302 in ubuntu "Audio Line out does not work on Medion MD 96630" [Undecided,New] [06:55] and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/313486 [06:55] Launchpad bug 313486 in ubuntu "internal microphone doesn't work on Medion MD 96630" [Undecided,New] [07:03] moose1: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/302145 [07:03] Launchpad bug 302145 in ubuntu "Soundcard not found on 8.10 (Medion Akoya MD96640)" [Undecided,New] [07:29] good morning bugsquad. [07:29] hiya thekorn [07:31] hello dholbach === ziroday is now known as bingqiling === bingqiling is now known as ziroday === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [14:18] Hi, I somehow managed to enter the identical bug report twice. [14:18] Can someone please delete one of them? [14:18] #314041 #314041 [14:19] sorry #314040 and #314041 [14:19] marmuta, hi, we are not able to delete bugreports, just mark the duplicate as a duplicate of the first one [14:19] or set the status of the second one to invalid [14:20] bug 314041 [14:20] Launchpad bug 314041 in wireshark "Virtual capture interface "any" is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314041 [14:20] ok, wil do, thank you [14:55] Boo [14:57] Hi. Can someone have a look at bug #188174? It is fixed in the sense that gnome-sessios-remove is no longer available. What to do with it? Thankss. [14:57] Launchpad bug 188174 in gnome-session "gnome-session-remove comand line tool not working" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188174 [14:58] can anyone else on jaunty reproduce X locking up (ctrl alt bksp doesn't work, magic sysrq does) when you try to unlock the gnome volume mixer applet? doesn't seem to happen with any of the other applets === jjardon is now known as torkiano [17:05] Bug #255137 was incorrectly labelled as duplicate [17:05] Launchpad bug 255137 in firefox "Firefox doesn't take over gnome font settings immediately" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255137 [17:05] How can I remove the duplicate status? [17:06] vadi2: click on the part that says its a dupe and backspace out the number its a dupe of [17:06] ok thanks [17:45] Can anybody test 'do-release-upgrade -d' on intrepid? I'm getting a message about 'No new release found' which I find odd. [17:47] bdmurray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/100458/ [17:48] sbeattie: great, not really what I wanted to hear but thanks [17:52] bdmurray: http://pastebin.ca/1300246 [17:56] bdmurray: if that's happening, it new. i used that command 3 weeks ago to upgrad [17:56] It's apt-cacher [17:56] oh ok === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden|work === schmiedc_ is now known as schmiedc [19:02] hi [19:03] hi YoBoY [19:05] olà BUGabundo [19:08] i want to help with bug triage, but i don't know where to begin :] (i have already read all the docs) there is so many bugs... :p, do you have some advices ? [19:10] YoBoY: just open up LP, and start looking at more recent bugs [19:10] or bugs for packages that you care! [19:10] or that are about expire [19:11] all valid options to get started [19:11] YoBoY: I recommend looking at software / packages that you use or are intrested in [19:17] hum... i mix the 2, looking in new bugs to a package i care, and start to see if i can do something... [19:18] Sounds good, let us know if you have any questions [19:19] yep :) [19:35] hum, need help with how to triage bug #314002 , the package concerned is "fortunes" but i don't find it with the "choose..." [19:35] Launchpad bug 314002 in fortune-mod "fortunes "songs-poems" contains mis-attribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314002 [19:43] what version of ubuntu do you run? [19:43] if 8.04 then i would check if thats true [19:43] but i am also new since yesterday :) [19:44] 8.10, but this packages is on all the versions, it's on packages.ubuntu.com [19:44] hmm have some preeinstalled [19:44] ho... perhaps it's beacause this packages are linked in some way... [19:44] but the songs not in the specified folder [19:44] (fortune-mod and fortunes) [19:45] what for is fortune by the way? [19:45] yes the songs are in the "fortunes" package [19:45] for fun only :p [19:46] it's why i tried to change the package in the bug on LP but can't find it with "choose..." [19:47] with the folder i meant that in the bug there is a folder were songs are stored [19:47] the link in packages.ubuntu.com for the "fortunes" packages go to the fortune-mod page in LP [19:47] i dont have it [19:47] you don't have this folder? [19:47] ./songs-poems is missing [19:48] but i am running also 8.10 [19:48] not 8.04 as the reporter does [19:49] you have to install the fortunes package to have the songs-poems [19:49] ok in LP fortune-mod " Source of: fortune-mod, fortunes, fortunes-min, fortunes-off" so it's the right package, sorry ... :p [19:51] in this file we have -- "The Clean Song", Oscar Brandt and the reporter say that it should be -- Oscar Brandt, "The Clean Song" [19:51] any idea who have to care of this upstream? [19:53] YoBoY: its in debian too [19:54] arf debian... ¬_¬" [19:55] hello [19:55] how do i report a bug for jaunty? [19:55] just mention it on the report [19:56] and remember to show the version package [19:56] Armagguedes: about what package? [19:57] don't know [19:57] it's with the kde panel [20:04] Armagguedes: first look for a duplicate at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace [20:26] what is a CVE bug? [20:28] first hit from google: http://cve.mitre.org/cve/identifiers/index.html [20:28] basically, an universal identifier for known security bugs [20:29] ok thanks [21:16] I wonder what to do with a bug about "gnome-session-remove" because this is no longer available in Intrepid (bug #188174) [21:16] Launchpad bug 188174 in gnome-session "gnome-session-remove comand line tool not working" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188174 [21:31] MrKanister: It depends on the gravity of the bug and why it was removed [21:31] At first glance the bug doesn't seem SRU worthy [22:01] Anyone encounter a bug with tty1. If you log in there... it will count that as a +1 login even after logged out. [22:01] ie; I have three users logged in (x-session, bash, and irssi) but system sees 4. [22:02] Even a w command shows only my three but says 4 users. [22:10] Zombie_Gaz: one of you using 2 terms? [22:15] yes... but that still accounts for only 3 [22:16] a 'w' command says 4 users... however, only three users listed [22:16] this only happens after i have logged into tty1 and logged out. [22:18] 17:18:32 up 22 min, 4 users, load average: 0.59, 0.36, 0.33 [22:18] USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT [22:18] gaz tty7 :0 16:57 22:52m 52.47s 0.24s x-session-manager [22:18] gaz pts/0 :0.0 16:58 1:40m 0.98s 0.74s irssi [22:18] gaz pts/1 :0.0 16:58 0.00s 0.24s 0.00s w [22:18] gaz@dante:~$ [22:19] It's only on tty1. [22:20] Other windows are fine... [22:22] I can log in and out of tty2-6 without causing this. [22:22] which release are you using? [22:23] 8.10 [22:25] I've recreated it on 9.04 [22:26] i cant get to TTY1 to recreate it on 9.04 -_- [22:26] maco: I had to go there 2 times ;-) [22:26] I first noticed it while remotely accessing my machine via ssh. [22:26] Thought it had something to do with ssh. [22:27] bdmurray: VT switching's broken for you too [22:27] ? [22:28] I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and it flicked then went back to X, I pressed it again and I saw tty1 [22:29] So... when you log out of tty1, do you see +1 users still listed? [22:29] see, now *i* try that and on the second time, it just sits there showing me the usplash image with the full loading bar [22:30] Zombie_Gaz: yes, I do [22:31] Ok... just making sure I have something here and not overthinking something silly. [22:31] maco, vt-switching is broken on Intrepid and +1 [22:34] hggdh: and hardy depending on your graphics card [22:35] hggdh: i have no tty's on my hardy lappy [22:35] not sure if that only happens after suspend or is always [22:35] One of these bugs is bug 271962. [22:35] Launchpad bug 271962 in consolekit "VT-switching from X returns you to X the first time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271962 [22:35] used to be neon green with grey text after suspend. now def. no tty after suspend. not sure if there's tty before suspend or not. [22:37] andersk: thanks! [22:40] Another is bug 304136, which does not have very much information currently. [22:40] Launchpad bug 304136 in usplash "[jaunty] corrupted console when using usplash" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304136 [23:26] maco, usually it works after the second try [23:26] (the tty switch, I mean) [23:27] hggdh: on hardy it doesnt return me to X on first try. it just gives me a black screen with no prompt every try [23:27] weird... [23:28] the returning to X on first try thing starts in intrepid [23:29] but on Intrepid it seems to affect all cards [23:30] it didn't affect mine using vesa or proprietary Nvidia [23:30] ugh this is confusing [23:30] of course it has nothing to do with the actual graphics driver, as others using vesa or proprietary Nvidia are able to reproduce the symptom [23:31] ok so my intel i965 has no ttys at all, and it does not bounce me back to X in hardy. my intel i945 in jaunty does bounce back to X. [23:32] we were discussing this some weeks ago, and people considered a probable console-kit issue [23:40] hggdh: it is consolekit [23:41] the question is how many other components are interacting poorly with it or whether it's solely ck [23:42] crimsun, thanks