| === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| huats | morning everyone | 08:30 |
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| pitti | hey huats, happy new year! | 08:36 |
| huats | hey pitti ! | 08:36 |
| huats | happy new year too ! | 08:36 |
| huats | pitti: I wanted to talk to you about a SRU I asked, and that you proceed | 08:47 |
| huats | :) | 08:47 |
| huats | since I don't understand very well your answer :) | 08:47 |
| huats | the gcalctool SRU | 08:48 |
| huats | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302915 | 08:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302915 in gcalctool "Please sponsor gcalctool 5.24.2 into intrepid" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 08:49 |
| pitti | huats: I uploaded it to Jaunty, but there is not enough justification for an SRU | 08:51 |
| huats | pitti: yeah that was my understanding :) | 08:53 |
| huats | I assume that there is no chance to try to convince you ;) | 08:53 |
| pitti | huats: there is, but the current changes do not look like meeting SRU criteria | 08:54 |
| huats | pitti: ok | 08:54 |
| pitti | and I'm trying to stop people from putting too much work into intrepid | 08:54 |
| huats | pitti: sure | 08:55 |
| huats | I clearly understand that | 08:55 |
| pitti | we put so much work into hardy.1, that intrepid became really bad | 08:55 |
| pitti | and now we put so much work into intrepid SRUs that we don't spend on fixing Jaunty | 08:55 |
| pitti | etc. | 08:55 |
| huats | the thing is that at least one of the fixes has been asked many times on LP... that is why I wanted to talk to you about that | 08:56 |
| huats | pitti: yeah I know, that is a real problem that we split the forces... | 08:56 |
| pitti | huats: right, then the SRU should be requested on that bug, not a sponsoring bug | 08:56 |
| pitti | since on the sponsoring bug there are no users who are affected by that problem who could help testing SRUs, or demanding an SRU in the first place, etc. | 08:57 |
| pitti | (separate "SRU" bugs are bad, which is explained in the policy as well, BTW) | 08:57 |
| pitti | huats: so if you feel it's important, please add a intrepid task to that existing bug, and sub u-sru there, please | 08:57 |
| huats | pitti: in fact, I asked the SRU (after talking with seb), and then with pedro at the UDS we answer some existing bug that they might be fixed in the next upload... | 08:58 |
| huats | that is why they are separated... | 08:58 |
| huats | pitti: ok | 08:58 |
| pitti | huats: (don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against *this particular* SRU, but I object to the flood of SRUs which still hit intrepid) | 08:58 |
| huats | pitti: I have clearly understand your point | 08:58 |
| huats | at it is really a good one... | 08:58 |
| huats | I'll talk with seb once he is online, and I'll tell you after :) | 08:59 |
| crevette | hello gents | 08:59 |
| huats | thanks for your answers martin | 08:59 |
| huats | hello crevette | 08:59 |
| crevette | Happy new year | 08:59 |
| crevette | I hop the better for everyone and for me also | 08:59 |
| huats | :) | 09:00 |
| huats | of course the better for you too ;) | 09:00 |
| huats | crevette: are you attending the fosdem again ? | 09:00 |
| crevette | hmmm | 09:00 |
| crevette | no I think | 09:00 |
| crevette | I will be difficult, and I need to keep some money | 09:01 |
| crevette | :) | 09:01 |
| huats | :) | 09:01 |
| crevette | I'm trying to order some stickers for GNOME and tee-shirts | 09:01 |
| crevette | to have some goodies to sell | 09:01 |
| huats | great | 09:01 |
| seb128 | huats: I'm online for a bit, didn't see me join the chan? ;-) | 09:02 |
| crevette | salut seb128 | 09:02 |
| seb128 | lut crevette | 09:03 |
| huats | seb128: nope :) | 09:03 |
| huats | hello o/ | 09:03 |
| crevette | hey hey andreasn | 09:04 |
| andreasn | hi crevette | 09:04 |
| crevette | happy new year | 09:04 |
| * pitti hugs seb128, bonjour and happy new year! | 09:04 | |
| andreasn | thanks, you too! | 09:04 |
| crevette | seb128, I packaged some GNOME tarball, and create a bug for sponsoring if you're interested with | 09:07 |
| seb128 | happy new years | 09:08 |
| seb128 | crevette: I was on holidays for almost 3 weeks, I've some thousand of mails, packages, etc to catchup on now, will probably takes some days | 09:08 |
| crevette | seb128, yeah yeah | 09:09 |
| crevette | I sure packaging is not you first goals in the coming week | 09:09 |
| seb128 | new GNOME this week so I'll probably do some packaging and sponsoring | 09:09 |
| crevette | my packaging sill be superseeded by new upstream release | 09:10 |
| davmor2 | seb128: Happy new year back at you :) | 09:10 |
| Keybuk | The following people reported more than 250 bugs in 2008: | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | 454 Pedro Villavicencio | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | 402 Sebastien Bacher | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | :o) | 10:33 |
| slomo | seb128, mvo: does jaunty already use the new gstreamer codec installation stuff? :) | 10:34 |
| mvo | slomo: not yet, but we plan to | 10:36 |
| slomo | ok :) | 10:36 |
| mvo | slomo: where is the upstream vcs? | 10:36 |
| mvo | slomo: or should I use the packages in experimental? | 10:36 |
| slomo | mvo: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gstreamer/ | 10:36 |
| slomo | that's the same as in experimental though... oh, and the updated gnome-app-install is in pkg-gnome (and experimental) :) | 10:37 |
| mvo | slomo: the python-apt in bzr has gtk widget stuff now too (so you can get rid of the synaptic dependency soon) | 10:37 |
| mvo | slomo: what patch was needed for g-a-i? just disabling it? | 10:38 |
| slomo | yes | 10:38 |
| * mvo nods | 10:38 | |
| glatzor | hello slomo | 10:39 |
| glatzor | slomo, I would like to help out on gnome-codec-install. Where do you host the repository? | 10:39 |
| slomo | glatzor: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gstreamer/experimental/gnome-codec-install/ | 10:39 |
| slomo | if you have an alioth account i can add you :) | 10:40 |
| glatzor | slomo, The gstreamer support could be added easily to python-apt. | 10:40 |
| slomo | what would you like to have in python-apt? | 10:41 |
| glatzor | slomo, so you don't need to do all the regex work | 10:41 |
| glatzor | apt.Package.providesGstreamerElement() | 10:41 |
| mvo | slomo: could you please apply http://paste.ubuntu.com/100226/ ? | 10:41 |
| glatzor | slomo, but I am not sure if element is the correct term | 10:41 |
| slomo | yeah, that would be great :) also what should definitely be done is moving the packages searching into another thread ;) | 10:42 |
| slomo | mvo: thanks | 10:42 |
| glatzor | slomo, I did a small test at UDS and the search was quite fast. I would guess a second | 10:43 |
| slomo | glatzor: it's even faster in another thread because now i'm polling the main loop every n packages ;) | 10:44 |
| slomo | glatzor: and if you add support for this into python-apt you need one method for every new control field (i.e. 6 or 7) ;) | 10:45 |
| glatzor | slomo, I would like to deal this with parameters | 10:46 |
| glatzor | slomo, apt.Package.hasGstreamerPlugin(self, type, structure, version=None) | 10:47 |
| glatzor | slomo, that is what I am currently doing in my local branch | 10:47 |
| glatzor | @type: Can be of value encoder, decoder, element, urisink | 10:47 |
| glatzor | or urisource | 10:47 |
| glatzor | @structure: Can be the caps in case of decoder or encoder or the | 10:47 |
| glatzor | name of an element, sink or source | 10:47 |
| slomo | or that, yes ;) but this will mean that python-apt will depend on python-gst0.10... that's no problem? | 10:48 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: hey we rock ;-) | 10:49 |
| glatzor | slomo, we try to import gst and if it is not available the method will not work | 10:49 |
| glatzor | slomo, so in the end it will be a suggestion in the debian terminology | 10:49 |
| slomo | ok | 10:49 |
| glatzor | slomo, mvo oh, I have to leave for my train to work! See you later | 10:50 |
| Keybuk | seb128: you do indeed ;) | 10:50 |
| mvo | slomo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/100231/ <- and this one please (plus svn add README) | 10:51 |
| slomo | done :) | 10:54 |
| mvo | slomo: is there a reason it does not use glade (or the new gtkui stuff)? to keep dependencies lean etc? | 10:58 |
| slomo | mvo: IMHO the ui is simple enough to not use glade | 11:00 |
| mvo | slomo: ok, thats fine, I was just curious | 11:01 |
| seb128 | hey pedro_, happy new year! | 11:18 |
| * pedro_ hugs seb128 | 11:18 | |
| * seb128 hugs pedro_ | 11:18 | |
| pedro_ | seb128: happy new year to you too! | 11:18 |
| pedro_ | mvo: hello!, happy new year ;-) | 11:19 |
| mvo | hey pedro_! happy new year | 11:19 |
| seb128 | brb | 11:40 |
| slomo | seb128: please sync gtask from debian/unstable :) | 12:02 |
| * Keybuk makes a song about Evolution | 12:32 | |
| Keybuk | o/~ 15 unread mails in the folder | 12:32 |
| Keybuk | o/~ 15 unread mails in the folder | 12:32 |
| Keybuk | o/~ you take one down, err there isn't one | 12:32 |
| Keybuk | o/~ rm folders.db | 12:32 |
| * pochu waves :) | 12:37 | |
| === seb128_ is now known as seb128 | ||
| seb128 | hey pochu, happy new year | 13:09 |
| pochu | seb128: happy new year to you too! | 13:13 |
| pochu | hope you enjoyed your holidays ;) | 13:13 |
| seb128 | pochu: very much thanks | 13:14 |
| seb128 | pochu: you? | 13:14 |
| seb128 | pochu: any news on libproxy since before the holidays btw? | 13:14 |
| pochu | me too, had good times with my 1 year old nephew :) | 13:15 |
| pochu | seb128: I feel it's ready to be uploaded, but there were some security concerns in debian-devel about libproxy I wanted to investigate | 13:15 |
| pochu | seb128: but the packaging is done | 13:15 |
| seb128 | ok good | 13:15 |
| seb128 | do you have the files somewhere? | 13:16 |
| seb128 | I'll sponsor the upload this week | 13:16 |
| pochu | seb128: they are in pkg-gnome | 13:16 |
| seb128 | ok good | 13:16 |
| pochu | but if you want I can prepare a -0ubuntu1.dsc | 13:16 |
| seb128 | that would be nice, until it's accepted in debian better to not use -1 | 13:16 |
| pochu | yeah | 13:17 |
| huats | seb128: regarding the gnome-keyring issue, I've just had a quick look at the svn, and the call to that undefined macro are all from the last commit... I thing that they are just the result of a mistake... (since the macro is defined nowhere). I am waiting for the answer of the upstream | 13:20 |
| seb128 | huats: ok good | 13:20 |
| crevette | thanks seb128 for the uploads | 13:43 |
| seb128 | crevette: I didn't do sponsoring yet, that's probably a thanks to dholbach for those | 13:43 |
| crevette | ah okay :) | 13:43 |
| seb128 | I'm still catching up on mails and bugs | 13:43 |
| seb128 | crevette: btw if you can open the bug before doing the update so you can close the bug in the changelog | 13:53 |
| seb128 | crevette: I just closed the gedit update bug | 13:54 |
| crevette | ah thanks | 13:54 |
| crevette | that's what said huats to me, next time I'll do that in this order | 13:54 |
| crevette | so I'll put the bug number in the changelog | 13:54 |
| huats | :) | 13:55 |
| huats | seb128: waiting for the gnome-keyring / seahorse stuff, I'll have a look at the new anjuta... | 14:04 |
| seb128 | huats: ok | 14:04 |
| seb128 | huats: oh btw be careful with the gnome-keyring upgrade, I did package 2.25.3 before the holidays, they changed the session handling and that was breaking the guest account login on my config that's why I didn't upload | 14:37 |
| seb128 | huats: I didn't investigate and didn't want to upload before running in holidays either | 14:38 |
| seb128 | huats: could be fixed in the new version though | 14:38 |
| huats | seb128: ok I'll have a close look at that... | 14:38 |
| seb128 | huats: just make sure you can still start your session and a guest one ;-) | 14:38 |
| huats | ok :) | 14:39 |
| huats | I'll do as soon as it is fixed :) | 14:39 |
| pitti | seb128: let me know if you need my help with updating gdm-guest-session | 15:05 |
| pitti | seb128: I mean, if it needs adaptions to new -keyring/-session, I'll do that | 15:05 |
| seb128 | pitti: is gdm-guest-session doing anything special? I didn't think to blame it but rather took that as a gnome-keyring bug | 15:06 |
| pitti | seb128: not "special" in the keyring sense | 15:06 |
| pitti | seb128: (/usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-setup.sh) | 15:06 |
| pitti | seb128: maybe it uses some new privilege, and trips over apparmor? | 15:07 |
| pitti | dmesg check might be worth a look | 15:07 |
| pitti | if it's not that, I don't know | 15:07 |
| seb128 | pitti: I'll try again and let you know if I figure something | 15:07 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 15:07 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 15:07 | |
| * pitti goes back to fixing apport | 15:07 | |
| seb128 | pitti: is there a writable user directory for the guest user? | 15:07 |
| pitti | jaunty broke it | 15:07 |
| pitti | seb128: it gets a temporary home, of course | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I guess there is nothing specific about the permissions there that could create an issue | 15:08 |
| pitti | /tmp/guest-session.12345/ something like this | 15:08 |
| seb128 | anyway I'll try the new version and ping you back if required | 15:08 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:08 |
| seb128 | vuntz: hey | 15:23 |
| vuntz | seb128: hola | 15:24 |
| seb128 | vuntz: happy new year! | 15:24 |
| seb128 | vuntz: had good holidays? | 15:24 |
| vuntz | seb128: bonne année aussi | 15:25 |
| vuntz | and of course, good holidays ;-) | 15:25 |
| seb128 | vuntz: good | 15:27 |
| seb128 | vuntz: did you get any feedback on the libapplet change? | 15:28 |
| vuntz | seb128: nope | 15:28 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm wondering if I should do the update or still wait a bit ;-) | 15:28 |
| vuntz | I think it's looking fine from the GNOME side, especially with the new tarballs that will come this week | 15:29 |
| seb128 | going to roll new tarballs this week btw? or there was no change since the previous ones? | 15:29 |
| vuntz | unsure about the outside world | 15:29 |
| vuntz | I'll roll tarballs | 15:29 |
| seb128 | bah | 15:29 |
| seb128 | would have been nice to start the year quietly and not under new tarballs ;-) | 15:29 |
| seb128 | ok, will wait for those then before starting on the updates | 15:30 |
| vuntz | heh, lazy you! :-) | 15:30 |
| seb128 | hey, I admit, I'm lazy ;-) | 15:30 |
| seb128 | do you really have changes or do you just roll new tarballs to keep packagers busy? ;-) | 15:31 |
| huats | seb128: I think he want to busy distributors... | 15:33 |
| seb128 | yeah, me too | 15:33 |
| huats | and happy new year vuntz btw :) | 15:33 |
| vuntz | huats: hello | 15:36 |
| vuntz | seb128: there's no change in gnome-panel, actually | 15:37 |
| seb128 | see ;-) | 15:37 |
| seb128 | huats, pochu: does any of you want to do a mir for libunique? it's required to build the new nautilus | 15:49 |
| huats | seb128: pochu, I am ok to do it... but since I have never done one before it might take me a bit long | 15:53 |
| seb128 | huats: you never did one before? good idea to do one now then ;-) | 15:53 |
| seb128 | huats: it's pretty easy, just follow the wiki template | 15:53 |
| huats | seb128: yep :)= | 15:53 |
| huats | (i am looking at it now) | 15:53 |
| huats | seb128: so count on me | 15:53 |
| huats | seb128: I'll start doing it tomorrow | 15:54 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:54 |
| seb128 | pitti: you will have time to do this mir review today or tomorrow or should I try to ping somebody else in the mir team? there is no real hurry but nautilus 2.25 depwait on it so would be nice to unblock that this week | 15:55 |
| pitti | re | 16:18 |
| pitti | seb128: whoever gets it first, but please ping me when it becomes urgent; next days should be ok | 16:18 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok thanks | 16:19 |
| seb128 | mvo: would it be possible to automatically detect the upgrades interrupted by the user and not send those as bug? | 16:19 |
| mvo | seb128: intrrupted via ctrl-c ? should be doable | 16:21 |
| seb128 | mvo: and could you look at bug #306095? I think that's a known duplicate and you had a patch for that or something | 16:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 306095 in gnome-applets "package gnome-applets-data 2.24.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306095 | 16:21 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes | 16:21 |
| mvo | seb128: hm, that should be fixed alrady, strange. | 16:28 |
| seb128 | mvo: could you reassign it to the right component at least? | 16:28 |
| seb128 | I don't think that's a gnome-applet issue | 16:28 |
| mvo | no | 16:29 |
| mvo | and yes | 16:29 |
| mvo | reassign> yes | 16:29 |
| mvo | gnome-applet issue> no | 16:29 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 16:30 |
| mvo | reassinged: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)^M | 16:30 |
| seb128 | mvo: that's NOTABUG then? ie, user did ctrl-c because that was taking a while? | 16:41 |
| mvo | seb128: I suspect so, however it may be scrollkeeper hanging and the user was desperate | 16:42 |
| mvo | :) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | mvo: you don't like to close bugs ;-) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | mvo: that's the sort of bugs I do close usually | 16:42 |
| mvo | seb128: go ahead :) | 16:43 |
| seb128 | mvo: done | 16:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: (hi), if you have anything that you really want to sort out to get my hands warmer, do not hesitate :) | 16:51 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks | 16:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks: nothing urgent but there is enough GNOME updates to do to keep you busy if you want to do some ;-) | 16:51 |
| didrocks | (btw, I just hope it's warmer in our home than in Paris currently :)) | 16:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: for sure, give it now ;) | 16:52 |
| didrocks | or do you want i seek for them? | 16:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks: any preference? there is gnome-games gnome-control-center totem and some others | 16:53 |
| seb128 | they will probably roll tarballs later today and tomorrow too | 16:53 |
| didrocks | ok, beginning with gnome-control-center, then totem :) | 16:53 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:53 |
| seb128 | http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-control-center/2.25/gnome-control-center-2.25.3.tar.gz | 16:53 |
| seb128 | http://download.gnome.org/sources/totem-pl-parser/2.25/totem-pl-parser-2.25.1.tar.gz | 16:53 |
| seb128 | http://download.gnome.org/sources/totem/2.25/totem-2.25.3.tar.gz | 16:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks :) | 16:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks: mvo put g-c-c in bzr so bonus point if you use it | 16:54 |
| didrocks | I will get them :) | 16:54 |
| mvo | bzr++ | 16:54 |
| didrocks | I don't see it in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop | 17:00 |
| mvo | bzr+ssh://mvo@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/gnome-control-center/ubuntu/ | 17:02 |
| didrocks | mvo: thanks | 17:03 |
| mvo | didrocks: I'm happy to merge it from your branch and upload when its ready :) | 17:06 |
| didrocks | mvo: ok, will give it a try and push in my bzr/code lp account, then, request a merge to yours, right? :) | 17:08 |
| mvo | didrocks: yeah, request the merge via irc, then I do it right away | 17:08 |
| didrocks | no pb, I think I will just take some time has I have to understand how it works (only debian/ directory, the source is not included, etc.). I previoulsy use bzr only for my personal work, not the bzr-builddeb plugin :) | 17:10 |
| === espacious_ is now known as espacious | ||
| philsf | I want to confirm Bug #212098, but I'd like to be sure I'm not missing something here. Anyone here familiar with the samba/libpam-smbpass issue? | 23:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 212098 in nautilus-share ""easy" file sharing not notifying about logout/login" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212098 | 23:45 |
| philsf | guess I'm in the wrong timezone | 23:49 |
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