=== bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth [08:30] morning everyone [08:36] hey huats, happy new year! [08:36] hey pitti ! [08:36] happy new year too ! [08:47] pitti: I wanted to talk to you about a SRU I asked, and that you proceed [08:47] :) [08:47] since I don't understand very well your answer :) [08:48] the gcalctool SRU [08:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302915 [08:49] Launchpad bug 302915 in gcalctool "Please sponsor gcalctool 5.24.2 into intrepid" [Wishlist,Fix released] [08:51] huats: I uploaded it to Jaunty, but there is not enough justification for an SRU [08:53] pitti: yeah that was my understanding :) [08:53] I assume that there is no chance to try to convince you ;) [08:54] huats: there is, but the current changes do not look like meeting SRU criteria [08:54] pitti: ok [08:54] and I'm trying to stop people from putting too much work into intrepid [08:55] pitti: sure [08:55] I clearly understand that [08:55] we put so much work into hardy.1, that intrepid became really bad [08:55] and now we put so much work into intrepid SRUs that we don't spend on fixing Jaunty [08:55] etc. [08:56] the thing is that at least one of the fixes has been asked many times on LP... that is why I wanted to talk to you about that [08:56] pitti: yeah I know, that is a real problem that we split the forces... [08:56] huats: right, then the SRU should be requested on that bug, not a sponsoring bug [08:57] since on the sponsoring bug there are no users who are affected by that problem who could help testing SRUs, or demanding an SRU in the first place, etc. [08:57] (separate "SRU" bugs are bad, which is explained in the policy as well, BTW) [08:57] huats: so if you feel it's important, please add a intrepid task to that existing bug, and sub u-sru there, please [08:58] pitti: in fact, I asked the SRU (after talking with seb), and then with pedro at the UDS we answer some existing bug that they might be fixed in the next upload... [08:58] that is why they are separated... [08:58] pitti: ok [08:58] huats: (don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against *this particular* SRU, but I object to the flood of SRUs which still hit intrepid) [08:58] pitti: I have clearly understand your point [08:58] at it is really a good one... [08:59] I'll talk with seb once he is online, and I'll tell you after :) [08:59] hello gents [08:59] thanks for your answers martin [08:59] hello crevette [08:59] Happy new year [08:59] I hop the better for everyone and for me also [09:00] :) [09:00] of course the better for you too ;) [09:00] crevette: are you attending the fosdem again ? [09:00] hmmm [09:00] no I think [09:01] I will be difficult, and I need to keep some money [09:01] :) [09:01] :) [09:01] I'm trying to order some stickers for GNOME and tee-shirts [09:01] to have some goodies to sell [09:01] great [09:02] huats: I'm online for a bit, didn't see me join the chan? ;-) [09:02] salut seb128 [09:03] lut crevette [09:03] seb128: nope :) [09:03] hello o/ [09:04] hey hey andreasn [09:04] hi crevette [09:04] happy new year [09:04] * pitti hugs seb128, bonjour and happy new year! [09:04] thanks, you too! [09:07] seb128, I packaged some GNOME tarball, and create a bug for sponsoring if you're interested with [09:08] happy new years [09:08] crevette: I was on holidays for almost 3 weeks, I've some thousand of mails, packages, etc to catchup on now, will probably takes some days [09:09] seb128, yeah yeah [09:09] I sure packaging is not you first goals in the coming week [09:09] new GNOME this week so I'll probably do some packaging and sponsoring [09:10] my packaging sill be superseeded by new upstream release [09:10] seb128: Happy new year back at you :) [10:33] The following people reported more than 250 bugs in 2008: [10:33] 454 Pedro Villavicencio [10:33] 402 Sebastien Bacher [10:33] :o) [10:34] seb128, mvo: does jaunty already use the new gstreamer codec installation stuff? :) [10:36] slomo: not yet, but we plan to [10:36] ok :) [10:36] slomo: where is the upstream vcs? [10:36] slomo: or should I use the packages in experimental? [10:36] mvo: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gstreamer/ [10:37] that's the same as in experimental though... oh, and the updated gnome-app-install is in pkg-gnome (and experimental) :) [10:37] slomo: the python-apt in bzr has gtk widget stuff now too (so you can get rid of the synaptic dependency soon) [10:38] slomo: what patch was needed for g-a-i? just disabling it? [10:38] yes [10:38] * mvo nods [10:39] hello slomo [10:39] slomo, I would like to help out on gnome-codec-install. Where do you host the repository? [10:39] glatzor: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gstreamer/experimental/gnome-codec-install/ [10:40] if you have an alioth account i can add you :) [10:40] slomo, The gstreamer support could be added easily to python-apt. [10:41] what would you like to have in python-apt? [10:41] slomo, so you don't need to do all the regex work [10:41] apt.Package.providesGstreamerElement() [10:41] slomo: could you please apply http://paste.ubuntu.com/100226/ ? [10:41] slomo, but I am not sure if element is the correct term [10:42] yeah, that would be great :) also what should definitely be done is moving the packages searching into another thread ;) [10:42] mvo: thanks [10:43] slomo, I did a small test at UDS and the search was quite fast. I would guess a second [10:44] glatzor: it's even faster in another thread because now i'm polling the main loop every n packages ;) [10:45] glatzor: and if you add support for this into python-apt you need one method for every new control field (i.e. 6 or 7) ;) [10:46] slomo, I would like to deal this with parameters [10:47] slomo, apt.Package.hasGstreamerPlugin(self, type, structure, version=None) [10:47] slomo, that is what I am currently doing in my local branch [10:47] @type: Can be of value encoder, decoder, element, urisink [10:47] or urisource [10:47] @structure: Can be the caps in case of decoder or encoder or the [10:47] name of an element, sink or source [10:48] or that, yes ;) but this will mean that python-apt will depend on python-gst0.10... that's no problem? [10:49] Keybuk: hey we rock ;-) [10:49] slomo, we try to import gst and if it is not available the method will not work [10:49] slomo, so in the end it will be a suggestion in the debian terminology [10:49] ok [10:50] slomo, mvo oh, I have to leave for my train to work! See you later [10:50] seb128: you do indeed ;) [10:51] slomo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/100231/ <- and this one please (plus svn add README) [10:54] done :) [10:58] slomo: is there a reason it does not use glade (or the new gtkui stuff)? to keep dependencies lean etc? [11:00] mvo: IMHO the ui is simple enough to not use glade [11:01] slomo: ok, thats fine, I was just curious [11:18] hey pedro_, happy new year! [11:18] * pedro_ hugs seb128 [11:18] * seb128 hugs pedro_ [11:18] seb128: happy new year to you too! [11:19] mvo: hello!, happy new year ;-) [11:19] hey pedro_! happy new year [11:40] brb [12:02] seb128: please sync gtask from debian/unstable :) [12:32] * Keybuk makes a song about Evolution [12:32] o/~ 15 unread mails in the folder [12:32] o/~ 15 unread mails in the folder [12:32] o/~ you take one down, err there isn't one [12:32] o/~ rm folders.db [12:37] * pochu waves :) === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [13:09] hey pochu, happy new year [13:13] seb128: happy new year to you too! [13:13] hope you enjoyed your holidays ;) [13:14] pochu: very much thanks [13:14] pochu: you? [13:14] pochu: any news on libproxy since before the holidays btw? [13:15] me too, had good times with my 1 year old nephew :) [13:15] seb128: I feel it's ready to be uploaded, but there were some security concerns in debian-devel about libproxy I wanted to investigate [13:15] seb128: but the packaging is done [13:15] ok good [13:16] do you have the files somewhere? [13:16] I'll sponsor the upload this week [13:16] seb128: they are in pkg-gnome [13:16] ok good [13:16] but if you want I can prepare a -0ubuntu1.dsc [13:16] that would be nice, until it's accepted in debian better to not use -1 [13:17] yeah [13:20] seb128: regarding the gnome-keyring issue, I've just had a quick look at the svn, and the call to that undefined macro are all from the last commit... I thing that they are just the result of a mistake... (since the macro is defined nowhere). I am waiting for the answer of the upstream [13:20] huats: ok good [13:43] thanks seb128 for the uploads [13:43] crevette: I didn't do sponsoring yet, that's probably a thanks to dholbach for those [13:43] ah okay :) [13:43] I'm still catching up on mails and bugs [13:53] crevette: btw if you can open the bug before doing the update so you can close the bug in the changelog [13:54] crevette: I just closed the gedit update bug [13:54] ah thanks [13:54] that's what said huats to me, next time I'll do that in this order [13:54] so I'll put the bug number in the changelog [13:55] :) [14:04] seb128: waiting for the gnome-keyring / seahorse stuff, I'll have a look at the new anjuta... [14:04] huats: ok [14:37] huats: oh btw be careful with the gnome-keyring upgrade, I did package 2.25.3 before the holidays, they changed the session handling and that was breaking the guest account login on my config that's why I didn't upload [14:38] huats: I didn't investigate and didn't want to upload before running in holidays either [14:38] huats: could be fixed in the new version though [14:38] seb128: ok I'll have a close look at that... [14:38] huats: just make sure you can still start your session and a guest one ;-) [14:39] ok :) [14:39] I'll do as soon as it is fixed :) [15:05] seb128: let me know if you need my help with updating gdm-guest-session [15:05] seb128: I mean, if it needs adaptions to new -keyring/-session, I'll do that [15:06] pitti: is gdm-guest-session doing anything special? I didn't think to blame it but rather took that as a gnome-keyring bug [15:06] seb128: not "special" in the keyring sense [15:06] seb128: (/usr/share/gdm/guest-session/guest-session-setup.sh) [15:07] seb128: maybe it uses some new privilege, and trips over apparmor? [15:07] dmesg check might be worth a look [15:07] if it's not that, I don't know [15:07] pitti: I'll try again and let you know if I figure something [15:07] * pitti hugs seb128 [15:07] * seb128 hugs pitti [15:07] * pitti goes back to fixing apport [15:07] pitti: is there a writable user directory for the guest user? [15:07] jaunty broke it [15:08] seb128: it gets a temporary home, of course [15:08] I guess there is nothing specific about the permissions there that could create an issue [15:08] /tmp/guest-session.12345/ something like this [15:08] anyway I'll try the new version and ping you back if required [15:08] thanks [15:23] vuntz: hey [15:24] seb128: hola [15:24] vuntz: happy new year! [15:24] vuntz: had good holidays? [15:25] seb128: bonne année aussi [15:25] and of course, good holidays ;-) [15:27] vuntz: good [15:28] vuntz: did you get any feedback on the libapplet change? [15:28] seb128: nope [15:28] ok, I'm wondering if I should do the update or still wait a bit ;-) [15:29] I think it's looking fine from the GNOME side, especially with the new tarballs that will come this week [15:29] going to roll new tarballs this week btw? or there was no change since the previous ones? [15:29] unsure about the outside world [15:29] I'll roll tarballs [15:29] bah [15:29] would have been nice to start the year quietly and not under new tarballs ;-) [15:30] ok, will wait for those then before starting on the updates [15:30] heh, lazy you! :-) [15:30] hey, I admit, I'm lazy ;-) [15:31] do you really have changes or do you just roll new tarballs to keep packagers busy? ;-) [15:33] seb128: I think he want to busy distributors... [15:33] yeah, me too [15:33] and happy new year vuntz btw :) [15:36] huats: hello [15:37] seb128: there's no change in gnome-panel, actually [15:37] see ;-) [15:49] huats, pochu: does any of you want to do a mir for libunique? it's required to build the new nautilus [15:53] seb128: pochu, I am ok to do it... but since I have never done one before it might take me a bit long [15:53] huats: you never did one before? good idea to do one now then ;-) [15:53] huats: it's pretty easy, just follow the wiki template [15:53] seb128: yep :)= [15:53] (i am looking at it now) [15:53] seb128: so count on me [15:54] seb128: I'll start doing it tomorrow [15:54] ok [15:55] pitti: you will have time to do this mir review today or tomorrow or should I try to ping somebody else in the mir team? there is no real hurry but nautilus 2.25 depwait on it so would be nice to unblock that this week [16:18] re [16:18] seb128: whoever gets it first, but please ping me when it becomes urgent; next days should be ok [16:19] pitti: ok thanks [16:19] mvo: would it be possible to automatically detect the upgrades interrupted by the user and not send those as bug? [16:21] seb128: intrrupted via ctrl-c ? should be doable [16:21] mvo: and could you look at bug #306095? I think that's a known duplicate and you had a patch for that or something [16:21] Launchpad bug 306095 in gnome-applets "package gnome-applets-data 2.24.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306095 [16:21] mvo: yes [16:28] seb128: hm, that should be fixed alrady, strange. [16:28] mvo: could you reassign it to the right component at least? [16:28] I don't think that's a gnome-applet issue [16:29] no [16:29] and yes [16:29] reassign> yes [16:29] gnome-applet issue> no [16:30] thanks! [16:30] reassinged: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)^M [16:41] mvo: that's NOTABUG then? ie, user did ctrl-c because that was taking a while? [16:42] seb128: I suspect so, however it may be scrollkeeper hanging and the user was desperate [16:42] :) [16:42] mvo: you don't like to close bugs ;-) [16:42] mvo: that's the sort of bugs I do close usually [16:43] seb128: go ahead :) [16:46] mvo: done [16:51] seb128: (hi), if you have anything that you really want to sort out to get my hands warmer, do not hesitate :) [16:51] hey didrocks [16:51] didrocks: nothing urgent but there is enough GNOME updates to do to keep you busy if you want to do some ;-) [16:52] (btw, I just hope it's warmer in our home than in Paris currently :)) [16:52] seb128: for sure, give it now ;) [16:52] or do you want i seek for them? [16:53] didrocks: any preference? there is gnome-games gnome-control-center totem and some others [16:53] they will probably roll tarballs later today and tomorrow too [16:53] ok, beginning with gnome-control-center, then totem :) [16:53] ok [16:53] http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-control-center/2.25/gnome-control-center-2.25.3.tar.gz [16:53] http://download.gnome.org/sources/totem-pl-parser/2.25/totem-pl-parser-2.25.1.tar.gz [16:54] http://download.gnome.org/sources/totem/2.25/totem-2.25.3.tar.gz [16:54] seb128: thanks :) [16:54] didrocks: mvo put g-c-c in bzr so bonus point if you use it [16:54] I will get them :) [16:54] bzr++ [17:00] I don't see it in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop [17:02] bzr+ssh://mvo@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/gnome-control-center/ubuntu/ [17:03] mvo: thanks [17:06] didrocks: I'm happy to merge it from your branch and upload when its ready :) [17:08] mvo: ok, will give it a try and push in my bzr/code lp account, then, request a merge to yours, right? :) [17:08] didrocks: yeah, request the merge via irc, then I do it right away [17:10] no pb, I think I will just take some time has I have to understand how it works (only debian/ directory, the source is not included, etc.). I previoulsy use bzr only for my personal work, not the bzr-builddeb plugin :) === espacious_ is now known as espacious [23:45] I want to confirm Bug #212098, but I'd like to be sure I'm not missing something here. Anyone here familiar with the samba/libpam-smbpass issue? [23:45] Launchpad bug 212098 in nautilus-share ""easy" file sharing not notifying about logout/login" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212098 [23:49] guess I'm in the wrong timezone