[16:39] <newz2000> hey Turl, got the message about popcon. I'll ask around who manages that, it's got my webmaster@ address at the bottom but that's incorrect.
[16:41] <Turl> ok newz2000
[16:41] <newz2000> Turl: when you have a chance, can you tell me what is broken? I don't use it so it's not obvious to me.
[16:41] <Turl> newz2000: the graphs are broken. just look at them :p
[16:41] <newz2000> or I can get you in touch with the maintainer
[16:42] <newz2000> Turl: define broken
[16:42] <Turl> erm, not useful, extremely compacted and unreadable
[16:42] <newz2000> ah, yes, I agree
[16:42] <newz2000> Turl: what's this popcon2 you mentioned?
[16:42] <Turl> just for the record, a friend an I are making popcon2
[16:43] <Turl> it's a better popcon, let's say
[16:43] <Turl> based on the data you provide
[16:43] <newz2000> Turl: would you mind getting in touch with mvo@ubuntu.com about this?
[16:43] <Turl> about popcon2 or popcon?
[16:43] <newz2000> both
[16:43] <newz2000> his name is Michael Vogt and this is under his wing
[16:44] <newz2000> though it's been handed around a few times.
[16:44] <newz2000> He'd *probably* welcome some community assistance
[16:44] <Turl> we're an independent project, actually. it's not meant to replace popcon.ubuntu.com, just analyze it's data
[16:45] <newz2000> ok
[16:45] <Turl> we've a launchpad page, let me search for it...
[16:45] <newz2000> are you working with Siegfried Gevatter?
[16:46] <newz2000> (cf: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/293132 )
[16:46] <ubot3> Malone bug 293132 in ubuntu-website "Raw popcon data" [Undecided,New]
[16:46] <Turl> newz2000: nope, I'm working with Vadim, I think you know him from the maillist
[16:46] <newz2000> indeed
[16:47] <Turl> newz2000: https://launchpad.net/popcon2
[16:47] <Turl> we're not using the raw results, though
[16:48] <Turl> we use some preprocessed one you offer (by_inst iirc)
[16:49] <Turl> btw, do you think we'll have any problem with canonical? I just ask, because we're named "popcon2" and it's very similar to popcon
[16:50] <newz2000> no, that's not a prob. That came from debian iirc.
[16:50] <newz2000> it's an open source package I believe
[16:51] <Turl> ok, nice
[16:51] <Turl> newz2000: should I write in a formal style to  mvo@ubuntu.com?
[16:51] <newz2000> no, he's a nice friendly guy just like me. :-)
[16:52] <Turl> ok ;)
[17:03] <Turl> do you think it would be possible to get canonical's sponsorship on this project newz2000?
[17:04] <Turl> with sponsorship I mean a link on popcon saying something like "this data is analyzed on popcon2" or similar
[17:11] <newz2000> hey Turl, I can't answer yet, I'd suggest getting popcon2 more complete and then we can evaluate it.
[17:14] <Turl> ok :)