[07:52] <crevette> heya
[07:55] <bryce> heya
[07:57] <tjaalton> howdy
[07:58] <crevette> good morning and happy new year
[07:58] <crevette> it seems X became crashy in jaunty after intel was updated
[07:59] <tjaalton> bryce: should we sync libxcb/libx11 prereleases, they have the lockless stuff merged in
[07:59] <crevette> I didn't had time to report a bug though
[08:00] <bryce> tjaalton: if you think it's all reasonably stable
[08:00] <tjaalton> bryce: maybe I should try it myself then :)
[08:00] <bryce> the lockless stuff would be nice to have but not if we're going to risk incurring new bugs for jaunty
[08:01] <bryce> crevette: what version are you on?
[08:01] <tjaalton> no new bugs in debian, but I doubt that many use it
[08:02] <bryce> crevette: and also what video card model is it?
[08:03] <bryce> crevette: anyway, gather a full backtrace from the crash and file a bug both in launchpad and upstream
[08:03] <bryce> crevette: make sure to include your Xorg.0.log and output from lspci -vvnn
[08:03] <crevette> I have the latest available updates but I'll gather all necessary information and I'll produce a bug report if it happen again
[08:03] <crevette> ah same idea :)
[08:04] <bryce> crevette: what's the video card model?  (lspci | grep VGA)
[08:04] <crevette> intel X3100
[08:05] <crevette> I'll provide you that once back to home
[08:05] <tjaalton> crashy after which update? the intel has been the same version for weeks
[08:05] <bryce> ah, 965.  I've got a jaunty system on 965 and haven't seen crashes so far
[08:06] <bryce> but maybe not exactly the same chipset
[08:06] <bryce> tjaalton: I'm assuming crevette's using 2.5.1-1ubuntu7
[08:07] <crevette> yep
[08:07] <crevette> tjaalton, it seems I saw an update yesterday, but it is true I cannot find one in the jaunty-changes
[08:07] <crevette> okay
[08:07] <crevette> don't loose your time on me
[08:08] <crevette> I'll do some investigation tonight
[08:09] <bryce> tjaalton: being on -ati with no XAA or EXA kind of sucks
[08:10] <bryce> thinking about trying out alex's r6xx/r7xx acceleration branch...
[08:11] <tjaalton> bryce: that's a long road.. you need to start by patching the kernel
[08:11] <tjaalton> :)
[08:11] <bryce> ouch yikes
[08:12] <bryce> maybe I ought to just buy a r5xx card...
[08:15] <bryce> hmm actually I could do all that...
[08:27] <tjaalton> buy a new card or..? :)
[08:27] <bryce> patch kernel, etc.
[08:27] <bryce> however a new card is only like $50
[08:29] <tjaalton> you also need to use radeonhd, -ati doesn't have support for it
[08:29] <tjaalton> at least not yet
[08:31] <bryce> hrm
[08:32] <bryce> well, I guess I'll get a 5xx card for now and can always play with the 6xx card once -ati has acceleration support
[08:41] <bryce> yow, nearly up to 250 -intel bug reports
[08:53] <tjaalton> I've been cleaning up xorg
[08:55] <bryce> it's been growing for a while
[08:55] <tjaalton> yep
[08:55] <bryce> nice seeing xorg back down to 200
[08:56] <tjaalton> there are still ~150 bugs that should be assigned to another package
[08:57] <tjaalton> xorg should only have packaging bugs or maybe some MASTER bugs for stuff that can't be fixed anytime soon
[08:57] <bryce> agreed
[09:00] <tjaalton> and if the header even hints at nvidia/fglrx then those should be cleaned up immediately :)
[23:59] <bryce> tjaalton: yeah it'd be sweet to get xorg down to the 50 or so that are actually xorg bugs.  I think we'd be able to get those bugs sorted out easier without all the other stuff to distract
[23:59] <bryce> plus I bet that'd help in finding dupes to other bugs already filed against the driver packages