[00:03] <Neremor> hello!
[00:03] <Neremor> i've a problem with adept
[00:03] <Neremor> btw. apt
[00:04] <Neremor> I messed up my software lists and would like to reset them to the default lists
[00:04] <Neremor> i only added one or two
[00:04] <Neremor> is there a way to do that?
[00:05] <s0101> how does a correct mac adress look if i want to set up a new one? the question is how do i know what numbers to chose ?
[00:08] <k4_> s0101:  search the web for "mac adress prefixes"
[00:08] <athlon1> Do you know any linux suite for mobile Nokia E65?
[00:09] <s0101> thanks
[00:10] <BluesKaj> Neremor , open adept /sources/edit software sources/kubuntu software or third party sources and highlight the sources you want to remove , click remove
[00:10] <genii> BluesKaj: He didn't hang around :(
[00:11] <BluesKaj> nice , another guy with no patience
[00:12] <BluesKaj> I guess I was bust trying figure when he left ...seems to happen a lot ...instant gratification or nothing :)
[00:12] <BluesKaj> bust=busy
[00:13] <genii> BluesKaj: I figure the guy with the crashed upgrade isn't going to be back anytime soon
[00:15] <StR|Sangreal> greetings
[00:15] <BluesKaj> ahha
[00:15] <StR|Sangreal> is there still someone who could attend my problem with failed dist-upgrade ?
[00:15] <genii> BluesKaj: Heh, irony
[00:16] <StR|Sangreal> well i am on windoze now :(
[00:16] <BluesKaj> StR|Sangreal , post your souces.list on pastebin
[00:16] <StR|Sangreal> i cannot switch my wireless radio on
[00:17] <StR|Sangreal> the kernel and the K are fine
[00:17] <StR|Sangreal> yet some settings went lost
[00:17] <null__> ugh fuck kubuntu it sucks so much compared to windowss!!!!!
[00:17] <null__> i need to restart my usb and i cant even do that
[00:17] <StR|Sangreal> and some apps of the previous distro are broken as well
[00:18] <StR|Sangreal> and - i am fully lost in k4
[00:18] <StR|Sangreal> but now the main plot turned into switching on the radio :)
[00:19] <BluesKaj> gonna watch some tv ...relax my back
[00:20] <genii> !language | null__
[00:20] <null__> can you help me genii
[00:20] <StR|Sangreal> genii pls could you first resolve my problem?
[00:20] <genii> null__: I'm soon leaving, sorry
[00:20] <null__> :(!!
[00:21] <genii> StR|Sangreal: Since the dependencies are all messy, it is almost impossible to fix. I suggest install fresh
[00:22] <StR|Sangreal> ok, a general question
[00:22] <StR|Sangreal> who thinks that .10 with k4 is better or worthier than .04 with k3?
[00:23] <genii> StR|Sangreal: I'm currently sticking to my 8.04 / 3.5.10 box
[00:23] <mister-tea-lapto> me too
[00:24] <StR|Sangreal> but - probably k4 is how user oriented systems do will develop in the future, isnt it?
[00:25] <genii> null__: "need to restart usb" is fairly vague. You have some specific usb device which doesn't work? etc. A more specific description and someone may know about your issue in detail and be able to assist (just not me currently)
[00:25] <mister-tea-lapto> probably
[00:25] <StR|Sangreal> i mean, i was fine with my .04
[00:26] <StR|Sangreal> but as i updated and broke the system, how shall i cope with the fact that it all was in vain?
[00:26] <mister-tea-lapto> beer
[00:27] <genii> mister-tea-lapto: Proast!
[00:28] <StR|Sangreal> ok.. who recommends me to install a new stable intrepid instead of former .04 with the older k?
[00:29] <Zehava> Could anyone tell me how to change my java classpath permanantly and globally please?
[00:29]  * mister-tea-lapto buys the channel a round
[00:30] <StR|Sangreal> thanks :) where can i find a slovak intrepid distro?
[00:30] <null__> genii: Well, all my usb devices stopped working and I'm getting floods of crazy errors to syslog.  usb_storage is busy doing a cwd and wont die, so i can't remove usbcore.  trying to rmmod ehci_hcd hangs and i can't kill modprobe.  /etc/init.d/udev restart does not fix anything
[00:31] <genii> Zehava: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217936&highlight=classpath
[00:31] <Zehava> genii thanks
[00:32] <genii> null__: The udev restart would also be your usb restart. So thats not going to help much. that it is the usb-storage might be some issue with external usb hd or usb stick
[00:34] <null__> my load is 15.xx with 10% cpu, and lsof confirms usbhid-up has about 20 files open (this happened due to a brown out which made my ups usb cry and it broke all usb); lsof also shows about 20 open for an lsusb i can't kill
[00:34] <denis_> !de
[00:34] <null__> i have physically unplugged all usb devices
[00:34] <null__> also, my root hard drive is failing and i don't have a backup
[00:34] <null__> if i reboot i'll prolly lose everything
[00:35] <genii> null__: Sounds like you have some possible hardware damage due to the brownout
[00:35] <null__> i have a backup on an external usb hd which now has a corrupt superblock i can't recover.  :)
[00:36] <genii> null__: You can't   sudo kill -9 <pid-of-lsubs-process>   ?
[00:36] <genii> *lsusb
[00:36] <null__> oh i've tried
[00:37] <null__> i've -9'ed every possible process
[00:37] <null__> anything related to lsusb, modprobe, and nut (the ups) won't die
[00:39] <StR|Sangreal> pls could sb advise me where to find a multilingual or slovak distro?
[00:39] <genii> null__: Nothing immediate comes to mind as some solution.
[00:39] <null__> i'm going to kill this x session and see if that does anything
[00:40] <genii> I need to be /away for a few hours now.
[00:41] <StR|Sangreal> pls does anybody know where to download a multilingual dvd with kubuntu 8.10?
[00:42] <Zehava> Isn't there some sort of GUI for setting the class paths? I've used it before but can't remember the name and thi is a new install
[00:42] <null__> yeah that didn't help
[00:42] <mister-tea-lapto> !ping
[00:43] <mister-tea-lapto> hmmm can't pm ubottu
[00:44] <null__> oh man
[00:45] <null__> i killed x, the music stopped, and now i can hear 'impending fan failure' from a hardware piece
[00:45] <mister-tea-lapto> jussi01:  hey I can't pm the bot
[00:50] <mister-tea-lapto> he must be busy
[01:00] <ralpho> kubuntu is king
[01:03] <cmaklad> Is this the right palce to ask a question about crontab?
[01:14] <kurumin> boa noite
[01:19] <StR|Sangreal> is here anyone still active?
[01:19] <StR|Sangreal> !en
[01:21] <buckethead> No. No one is home.
[01:21] <buckethead> Unless you ask a question, Then someone might magically appear.
[01:22] <stodge> Kubuntu 8.04, no sound from my usb audio device
[01:25] <buckethead> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting <- Start there.
[01:25] <buckethead> It should get you within hand grenade range.
[01:25] <stodge> Let me see what kinfocenter says about it
[01:25] <stodge> Maybe I should update my kernel
[01:25] <stodge> kinfocenter shows no module for the device
[01:27] <buckethead> I believe there is a step in there to fix that.
[01:27] <StR|Sangreal> goodnite kubuntu :)
[01:27] <buckethead> That goes back to the hand grenade range part. You'll have to sub out 'aptitude' for 'apt-get'
[01:28] <Styx993> hello
[01:29] <Styx993> is there a way to make kde put the stuff on the desktop actually on the desktop?
[01:30] <apow> on kde 4.2 there will be an option folder view as desktop i believe.
[01:30] <apow> but so far I guess not
[01:30] <Styx993> augh
[01:30] <buckethead> I like folderview, I've got one for a desktop, one for my media folder, and another for my file server.
[01:31] <Styx993> too many channels...
[01:31] <apow> Central elements of the desktop experience have been improved to provide a better experience. These include grouping and multiple row layout in the task bar, icon hiding in the system tray, notifications and job tracking by Plasma, and the ability to have icons on the desktop again by using a Folder View as the desktop background
[01:32] <Styx993> so am i able to not use a seperate folderview widget?
[01:32] <Styx993> err
[01:32] <Styx993> am i able to not use one?
[01:32] <Styx993> zomg theres a lot of channels
[01:33] <apow> anyone has a good solution for ATI + compositing? unfortunately xvideo sucks when used with compositing managers, and I like to see the ocasional movie, so no eye-candy for me.
[01:33] <omarco> is there a way to mount PTP cameras as removable storage automatically?
[01:36] <denis_> what are PTP cameras?
[01:37] <omarco> cameras that require the sad PTP protocol to transfer its pictures to another device
[01:37] <Danu> Hello  why te screen blinker until become black?
[01:38] <Danu> with kde 4
[01:38] <Styx993> ack
[01:38] <Styx993> my cd drive sounds like its going to kill me or something
[01:38] <omarco> I'm aware there's a way to mount them using a FUSE thing I found around, but I'm not aware how can I do to automount it this way :-(
[01:39] <Danu> Hello  why te screen blinker until become black?
[01:39] <Danu> it blinks a lot
[01:40] <JontheEchidna> Danu: just a second
[01:40] <Danu> ok
[01:41] <denis_> omarco ah ok, I don't know any of them. Which brand do you have?
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> Danu: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/
[01:41] <omarco> It's a stinking Kodak
[01:41] <omarco> :P
[01:41] <denis_> lol
[01:41] <denis_> who uses Kodak?
[01:41] <denis_> :-P
[01:42] <omarco> some Fujifilms and Canons also use PTP exclusively, which sucks
[01:42] <denis_> buy Canon or Leica ;-)
[01:42] <denis_> my powerhsot 75 works
[01:42] <denis_> ......shot
[01:43] <omarco> do you have to use a specific program or does a drive appear somewhere so you can copy your photographs like a pendrive?
[01:45] <Danu> Mister JontheEchidna i don't have a dual monitor and i already did and nothing :(
[01:46] <denis_> no, just connect
[01:46] <JontheEchidna> it doesn't have to be dual monitors exactly, even an unconnected tv out port will trigger the flickering
[01:46] <denis_> omarco I use digikam
[01:46] <Danu> but i already did that before and it keeps blinking
[01:46] <JontheEchidna> Danu: so you turned off the service, logged out and logged back in?
[01:47] <Danu> yes
[01:47] <omarco> denis_: Hmm, I think it uses PTP. Not sure if digikam also manages photos from mass storage devices (it probably should...)
[01:47] <Danu> i did that before like 2 weeks ago
[01:48] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[01:48] <denis_> omarco oh for sure, it only recognizes it as mass storage device, not as Canon...
[01:48] <denis_> version 2 is almost out
[01:48] <omarco_pizza> then it should be mass storage. Lucky! :-P
[01:49] <Danu> Anyone has "downgrade" to KDE 3 on intrepid (i read in some place that it can be with some repositories)?
[01:49] <denis_> oh sorry, I meant 0.10 is almost out
[01:49] <JontheEchidna> Danu: you might try upgrading to KDE 4.2, which doesn't have the problematic patch at all
[01:50] <denis_> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=42641
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[01:50] <Danu> is "beta"
[01:51] <JontheEchidna> it's still better than 4.1, I can assure you
[01:52] <Danu> ok Thanks Mr. JontheEchidna
[01:52] <JontheEchidna> You're welcome
[01:58] <SiVA_> hey
[01:59] <SiVA_> iwlist ra0 scan shows the local ssids in my area. But the knetworkmanager utilitty does not find any ssids. How can I manually configure this?
[01:59] <SiVA_> or get knetworkmanager to recognize the ssids
[02:00] <denis_> so
[02:03] <SiVA_> how can I manually configure a wifi connection through the console?
[02:03] <denis_> hehe, good question
[02:04] <SiVA_> is that better? hehe
[02:04] <SiVA_> I'm trying to use iwconfig but I keep getting "set failed on device ra0..."
[02:04] <Danu> Mr. JontheEchidna, Sorry the bother but when i try to upgrade says "it can't be install the actualizations", try a Parcial Actualization
[02:05] <denis_> parcial??
[02:05] <Danu> and then when i click "parcial actualization" then nothing happens
[02:05] <JontheEchidna> could you do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from the terminal and paste the output where it fails?
[02:05] <denis_> I think you mean parTial
[02:06] <JontheEchidna> denis_: probably a translation
[02:06] <denis_> oh
[02:06] <Danu> sorry, partial
[02:07] <Danu> i've been learnin' english since a month ago
[02:07] <StR|Sangreal> hola!
[02:07] <denis_> oh wow, so your English isn't that bad!
[02:08] <Danu> Thanks Mr. denis_
[02:08] <denis_> hehe, your welcome ;-)
[02:08] <StR|Sangreal> pls how to force an application prompt name of which i dont know, to run in sudo mode?
[02:09] <denis_> StR|Sangreal: I thin it should run if already installed??
[02:09] <denis_> think, sorry
[02:09] <Danu> this delete KDE 4.1?
[02:09] <StR|Sangreal> well i have an installed app i run through leftclick :)
[02:10] <denis_> StR|Sangreal:
[02:10] <StR|Sangreal> but if i wanna give it administratorial rights, what should i do?
[02:10] <Danu> most than all is the space i have a little tiny HD, that's why i'm so concern with space
[02:10] <denis_> StR|Sangreal: start it in command line
[02:10] <StR|Sangreal> i said i have no clue of its prompt name
[02:10] <denis_> StR|Sangreal: with "sudo" in front
[02:11] <StR|Sangreal> thats clear if i knew the prompt
[02:11] <StR|Sangreal> kdesudo "name"
[02:11] <JontheEchidna> Danu: yes, upgrading to KDE 4.2 will replace KDE 4.1
[02:11] <Danu> ok Thanks Mr. JontheEchidna
[02:12] <denis_> StR|Sangreal: you can see the path when you right-click on the name and then go on "properties!"
[02:12] <StR|Sangreal> hm such a brilliant sollution ;)
[02:13] <StR|Sangreal> another thing
[02:13] <denis_> thanks :-)
[02:13] <StR|Sangreal> how can i defragment a fat32 windoze-rezident partition from linux?
[02:14] <denis_> eh
[02:14] <StR|Sangreal> (cuz the windoze itself isnt willing to tidy up its mess you know :))
[02:14] <denis_> sorry, no f.... idea
[02:14] <cmaklad> Is this the right palce to ask a question about crontab?
[02:14] <denis_> I don't know crontab.......
[02:14] <StR|Sangreal> !crontab
[02:16] <cmaklad> Well my problem is setting the default email address. I changed that in the /etc/contab to something else other than root, but it still sends email to root...
[02:16] <StR|Sangreal> sorry thats not in my competence :(
[02:16] <StR|Sangreal> i will check mine
[02:16] <denis_> StR|Sangreal:  why do you still use windows?
[02:17] <StR|Sangreal> i sometimes have to share my laptop with newbies
[02:17] <denis_> StR|Sangreal:  I'm trying to get rid of it and I think I'm doing good :-)
[02:17] <denis_> doing what?
[02:18] <StR|Sangreal> and i havent got much experience with advanced linux features
[02:18] <denis_> well I think you just have to have a guest account
[02:19] <denis_> StR|Sangreal:  good thing is that you don't have to bother about killing the OS without the rights ;-)
[02:20] <denis_> sorry, you don't have to worry
[02:20] <StR|Sangreal> some games and a computing algebra system i used were only licensed for win
[02:20] <StR|Sangreal> and it is a resitude from our scholar system as well
[02:21] <denis_> StR|Sangreal:  sorry, what's a resitude?
[02:21] <denis_> something like a rest?
[02:21] <StR|Sangreal> would you prefer german/spanish/slovak? ;)
[02:21] <denis_> Deutsch bitte
[02:22] <StR|Sangreal> ein ueberrest
[02:23] <denis_> aah, Überbleibsel :-)
[02:23] <StR|Sangreal> i am not IT oriented
[02:23] <denis_> how come you speak so many languages?
[02:24] <StR|Sangreal> if you want we can talk over xmpp :)
[02:24] <StR|Sangreal> this is a kubuntu channel :)
[02:25] <denis_> xmpp....... I can offer you skype, msn, icq.........
[02:25] <StR|Sangreal> msn
[02:25] <denis_> ok
[02:25] <denis_> theisd at gmx.de
[03:07] <omarco> Does anyone here ever used gphotofs or fusermount? I'm in desperate need of help
[03:20] <mr_clark> Is there a built-in gui tool for mounting nfs shares in Kubuntu 8.10?
[03:25] <om> hello guys
[03:25] <om> I have installed Kubuntu 8.10
[03:25] <om> I have a problem tht after installation i only got memory test option on the grub so i went in through normal ubuntu live cd
[03:26] <om> now i edited the grub.conf
[03:26] <om> but waht abt the vmlinuz file how to edit it
[03:26] <om> ?
[03:26] <om> i copied the initrd image file to /boot
[03:26] <om> but waht abt the vmlinuz file
[03:26] <om> how to obtain it?
[03:28] <mr_clark> om, do you have any kernels installed?
[03:31] <wellington> #latino
[03:33] <om> mr clark
[03:33] <om> i installed the os from an magzine multiboot dvd of ubuntu
[03:33] <om> i am unable to boot in
[03:33] <om> the kubuntu
[03:36] <mr_clark> om, So the only kernel option you see is the memory test?
[03:38] <WAILTER> #dominicanos!
[03:38] <denis_> good night
[03:38] <om> yes
[03:38] <om> thnks to some pages i visited to google
[03:39] <om> i am downloading vmlinuz an initrd option
[03:39] <om> actually i had initrd file
[03:39] <dr_willis> I would think you may want to download  a kubuntu iso and reinstall. that may be much faster then trying to figure out how come grub got messed up.
[03:39] <dr_willis> sounds like their multiboot dvd - has issues
[03:39] <om> i had it in the / then i copied in /boot then i edited few lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:40] <om> dear friend i am in India it takes lots of time to download
[03:40] <dr_willis> If i recall right some times the one in / is a link tot he one in /boot/
[03:40] <om> the speed is 40 kbps
[03:40] <om> ya symlink
[03:40] <om> guys am i going right by downloading this
[03:40] <dr_willis> If you had a vmlinuz then you got one.. You just need to be sure the grub menu.lst is accessing it in the right place
[03:40] <om> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[03:41] <om> i have 3 paritions in the Samsung harddisk
[03:41] <om> tht is sdb1,2,3
[03:41] <om> 1st is Linux Kubuntu
[03:41] <om> n 2nd is Extended one
[03:41] <om> 3rd is Swap
[03:41] <om> so waht do i write is
[03:41] <om> hd1,0
[03:41] <om> ?
[03:42] <om> i am sorry for writing tht way i knw ur eyes must be paining by reading this way
[03:42] <dr_willis> grub starts counting at 0.
[03:42] <om> sorry guys won't repeat it
[03:42] <erling> a question?
[03:42] <om> okay
[03:42] <dr_willis> first hard drive is hd0, first partition would be hd0,0
[03:42] <om> so my 2nd hdd would be hd1,0
[03:42] <om> ?
[03:42] <erling> how can i change the channel in this irc .. i am new i kubu
[03:42] <dr_willis> That would be fiurst parttion, 2nd hd.
[03:43] <dr_willis> WAILTER,  /join #CHANNELNAME
[03:43] <WAILTER> THANZ
[03:43] <EagleScreen> om I think you have reason: hd1,0
[03:43] <om> ya
[03:43] <om> hd1 represents my 2nd harddisk right?
[03:43] <dr_willis> 'grub starts counting at 0' is the thing to rember.
[03:43] <om> yes
[03:43] <EagleScreen> om are you trying to install Kuubntu or what??
[03:43] <om> i have installed kubuntu on 2nd hdd
[03:44] <dr_willis> aparently hes trying to fix a - messed up install...
[03:44] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[03:44] <om> i have downloaded a initrd.gz
[03:44] <om> now may i paste it to /boot
[03:44] <om> ?
[03:45] <dr_willis> cp command is the normal way to copy files.
[03:45] <EagleScreen> yes, paste it to /boot
[03:45] <om> i don't have untar or something right?
[03:45] <EagleScreen> but, why did you downloaded a initrd.gz different than installed with Kubuntu?
[03:46] <om> dr willis
[03:46] <om> i got this dvd from a magzine which didn't have a vmlinuz file i suppose
[03:46] <om> it had a initrd file in /
[03:46] <om> also it may had vmlinuz file i didn't saw
[03:47] <om> but then i downloaded this file
[03:47] <EagleScreen> vmlinuz file is the Linux kernel binary compressed image
[03:47] <om> so should i untar it?
[03:48] <EagleScreen> negative it is not necessary
[03:48] <om> so should i just copy the file?
[03:48] <EagleScreen> yes
[03:48] <EagleScreen> copy the file to / or /boot, you decide
[03:48] <om> okay
[03:49] <om> now i have initrd an vmlinuz
[03:49] <om> but their versions are been mentioned
[03:49] <om> would it take it
[03:49] <om> from the files
[03:50] <EagleScreen> really I do not understand why are you doing all this
[03:50] <dr_willis> the menu.lst must have the proper file names.
[03:50] <om> ?
[03:50] <dr_willis> EagleScreen,  aparently some magazine multi-boot-dvd messed up and dident install properly
[03:50] <om> ya
[03:50] <om> dr willis
[03:50] <om> u tell me waht may i do now
[03:50] <om> i have the files
[03:50] <om> downloaded from a site
[03:50] <om> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[03:50] <dr_willis> I would think it may be faster to boot a live cd, chroot into the installed system. and install a new kernel with apt-get
[03:51] <EagleScreen> om, first please, open /boot folder, and tell us what files is there
[03:51] <om> i am currently on a ubuntu live cd
[03:51] <dr_willis> om copy them to the right place. fix menu.lst to load them  with the proper name/place/path.. and reboot and se eif it works.
[03:51] <om> hello
[03:51] <dr_willis> or chroot to the installed system. and try a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  may install the latest kernel and fix it all for you
[03:52] <dr_willis> !chroot
[03:52] <om> may i paste them?
[03:52] <dr_willis> Hmm.. need to track down a better chroot basic guide
[03:52] <dr_willis> om  try it and see.. I would sugegst learning the terminal very soon.
[03:52] <EagleScreen> om as you want, use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to paste things
[03:52] <om> ya i knw tht
[03:53] <om> http://paste.ubuntu.com/100781/
[03:53] <nick__> hello all, how do I share a folder with another client in my local network at home?
[03:54] <EagleScreen> !samba
[03:54] <EagleScreen> !nfs
[03:54] <nick__> i try and it will not allow, maybe i am doing it wrong
[03:55] <nick__> its a link from kde, to gnome
[03:56] <om> he;l;;p
[03:56] <om> dr willis
[03:56] <EagleScreen> om did you use command ls to paste that? please use 'ls -l'
[03:56] <dr_willis> nick__,  a quick an easy way to get files back/forth from 2 ubuntu machines is to use ssh/scp and sshfs also
[03:56] <om> okay
[03:56] <nick__> what info do i put in the areas and where do i find that info
[03:57] <Dexi> Anyone know how to fix an OSD that displays below all other windows?
[03:57] <om> http://paste.ubuntu.com/100785/
[03:58] <EagleScreen> om i supuse that vmlinuz is which you downloaded
[03:58] <om> waht happened ?
[03:58] <om> is tht wrong one?
[03:59] <EagleScreen> not, only for confirmation, and the file initrd.img is also you downloaded inst it?
[03:59] <babyredgold> italiani?
[04:00] <om> ya the .gz file
[04:00] <om> waht happened plz tel me
[04:00] <om> waht may i do Eagle Screen?
[04:00] <EagleScreen> okay
[04:00] <EagleScreen> lets tets that kernel you has been downloaded
[04:00] <om> n waht abt the old initrd file
[04:00] <om> which has the version with it
[04:01] <EagleScreen> open a text editor as root, and open file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:01] <om> okay
[04:01] <om> after it
[04:01] <om> ?
[04:01] <EagleScreen> paste it
[04:02] <babyredgold> italy?
[04:02] <EagleScreen> i am not sure if that kernel will boot on a installed system, but you can test
[04:02] <om> u mean the whole file in the pastebin?
[04:03] <om> i suppose u want the entries
[04:03] <EagleScreen> babyredgold #kubuntu-it
[04:03] <om> may i paste the entries/
[04:03] <EagleScreen> yes om, the entries
[04:03] <dr_willis> 'apt-get install pastebinit'
[04:03] <dr_willis> pastebinit /path/to/file
[04:03] <dr_willis>  those 2 commands will make life a LOT easier :)
[04:04] <dr_willis> apt-get install pastebinit, then 'pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[04:04] <om> okay just a sec
[04:05] <om> http://paste.ubuntu.com/100794/
[04:05] <om> here it is
[04:06] <om> Eagle
[04:07] <EagleScreen> what om
[04:07] <om> i suppose u would say to change the name of the vmlinuz file in the menu.lst
[04:07] <om> ?
[04:07] <om> is the downloaded vmlinuz file correct one?
[04:08] <EagleScreen> yes
[04:08] <om> becoz it doesn't has any symlinks
[04:08] <EagleScreen> wait a momment..
[04:08] <om> yes for the change of name in the menu.lst now u would paste the right contents n type the pastebin url to me am i right
[04:10] <om> so i m changing my /boot/vmlinuz -2.6.27-7-generic to just vmlinuz
[04:10] <om> n initrd.img -2.6.27-7-generic to initrd.gz?/
[04:10] <EagleScreen> i am going to paste what you should type in my opinion
[04:10] <om> okay
[04:11] <om> i m waiting
[04:11] <nick__> networking: every time i attempt to transfer files from one machine to the other, it disconnects the network connection and reconnects back again over and over
[04:11] <EagleScreen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/100797/
[04:11] <EagleScreen> try booting it
[04:13] <EagleScreen> om if this does not fix your problem, you have to use live CD to start session in your installed system and install the current kernel in repositories
[04:13] <om> okay
[04:14] <nick__> anyone?
[04:15] <EagleScreen> coming back soon
[04:18] <om> rebooting myself
[04:19] <EagleScreen> sysinfo
[04:20] <EagleScreen> Sysinfo for 'kairi': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T2390  @ 1.86GHz at 800 MHz (3724 bogomips), HD: 46/226GB, RAM: 1919/1999MB, 136 proc's, 51.12min up
[04:22] <epimeth> ahoy!
[04:22] <EagleScreen> !hello
[04:29] <omkar> hello Eagel
[04:29] <omkar> dr willis
[04:29] <omkar> it made it
[04:30] <omkar> i m in to my Kubuntu
[04:30] <omkar> thnks to GOD
[04:30] <omkar> its done
[04:30] <omkar> n thnks u people to
[04:30] <omkar> i am in KDE 4.1
[04:30] <omkar> now a little issue is there abt Graphics
[04:30] <omkar> it runs very well on normal Board Graphics
[04:30] <omkar> but i haven't used my geforce 6200
[04:32] <epimeth> congrats :-)
[04:33] <dr_willis> now learn to use complete sentances on IRC and stop using  ENTER 1000x more then its needed
[04:33] <dr_willis> :)
[04:34] <epimeth> dr_willis: I think its human nature... you can't force us to go against our animalistic instincts!!!!
[04:34] <epimeth> see?
[04:34] <epimeth> :-p
[04:35] <epimeth> ugh... where *is* everyone... I'm bored
[04:36] <dr_willis> watching TV. ;
[04:37] <epimeth> whats on?
[04:40] <epimeth> and how do I add keywords to ubottu?  I'd like him to respond to !echo :-)
[04:47] <zer0o> hi guys, is there a chan for web-developing support?
[04:52] <szrhawaii> need to know where to put the color file for my kdm theme anyone know the location of it I forgot it
[04:53] <szrhawaii> anyone out there
[04:55] <szrhawaii> man did everyone die in here cricket cricket so i have this ksrc file i want to use for my kdm login box and forgot the file location of the other default ksrc files and was wondering if anyone knew where to go in order to put my new one in it
[04:59] <szrhawaii> guess ill keep searching me files
[05:08] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi.
[05:09] <szrhawaii_> anyone know where the default ksrc files are for the kdm
[05:11] <Alan_Lockwood> I droped 1600 files on the desktop and i have 1600 plasmoids as icons, how can i delete them?
[05:11] <Alan_Lockwood> x_X
[05:11] <szrhawaii_> you trying to delete the desktop plasmoids
[05:12] <szrhawaii_> isnt that the base of the new kde 4.1 though
[05:13] <szrhawaii_> i swear the panel itself soley runs on the plasmoid style
[05:13] <szrhawaii_> or are you just deleting the icons
[05:14] <szrhawaii_> if your deleting or doing anything with icons its usr/share/icons
[05:14] <szrhawaii_> thats mainly where you will find your default icons and other icon sets
[05:15] <szrhawaii_> not sure if it will delete the desktop icons
[05:15] <szrhawaii_> for the plasmoids though
[05:15] <szrhawaii_> dwidmann you in here
[05:16] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: actually yes
[05:16] <szrhawaii_> hey do you know where the file location to add a color file to my kdm list
[05:17] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: a color for the **kdm** list? hmm, let me poke around a bit and see if I can find it
[05:18] <szrhawaii_> alright thanks i knew where it was in 3.5 but i not sure its the same in 4.2
[05:18] <kalma> fuck off
[05:18] <dwidmann> !language | kaima
[05:20] <szrhawaii_> someones having a bad day
[05:21] <dwidmann> szrhawaii, maybe something to do with .........share/config/kdm/backgroundrc?
[05:21] <szrhawaii_> ill check that out
[05:22] <dwidmann> or perhaps just /etc/kde4/kdm/backgroundrc
[05:24] <szrhawaii_> the etc one isnt it it should just be a folder with ksrc files in them
[05:24] <szrhawaii_> the other one i dont have a directory to
[05:25] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: hmm, well, there isn't any kdm related directory with kscrc files on my system...
[05:26] <szrhawaii_> so i gotta manually configure it in
[05:26] <szrhawaii_> i know in kde 3.5 they had a file to put it in
[05:26] <szrhawaii_> but that was after i downloaded the kdm manager
[05:27] <dwidmann> For the regular desktop color scheme I probably know where to put it, but I don't know with regards to kdm, for it I've only done whole themes
[05:27] <szrhawaii_> the desktop one is an easy on
[05:27] <szrhawaii_> e
[05:27] <szrhawaii_> its the kdm one i am more interested in
[05:27] <szrhawaii_> but thanks for the help though
[05:29] <szrhawaii_> hey dwidmann kdisplay does the kdm color right
[05:29] <dwidmann> hrm, not sure *checks*
[05:31] <dwidmann> I guess you could try putting some things in /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes and see if it picks up on it though eh?
[05:31] <hatoyu> Where can i change my system font size setting?
[05:32] <szrhawaii_> in the system settings hatoyu
[05:32] <stdin> System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[05:32] <hatoyu> szrhawaii_:  thank you
[05:32] <szrhawaii_> its in appearance
[05:32] <szrhawaii_> thats where one is
[05:34] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: hmm, by the looks of what I'm seeing in kdm, maybe it just uses the desktop color schemes?
[05:35] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: because I see it listing things like honeycomb and obsidian coast and such in kdm
[05:35] <szrhawaii_> yeah i noticed that also
[05:35] <szrhawaii_> maybe its a home/. type of file
[05:37] <hatoyu> how can I fix it :
[05:37] <hatoyu> CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
[05:37] <hatoyu> Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
[05:37] <hatoyu> QT_QTDBUS_LIBRARY (ADVANCED)
[05:38] <hatoyu> I want to install kdelibs 4.1.80
[05:38] <hatoyu> I have install qt4.4.3
[05:40] <dwidmann> hatoyu:  but have you install libqt4-dev?
[05:41] <hatoyu> dwidmann:  yes I install the it
[05:42] <dwidmann> hatoyu: and maybe libdbus-qt-1-dev
[05:42] <hatoyu> let me try it
[05:43] <dwidmann> hatoyu: or maybe you could just do the really easy thing and "sudo apt-get install kde-devel" or maybe "sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs"
[05:44] <szrhawaii_> i asked which one he was using
[05:44] <hatoyu> i want to install KDE 4.2 beta /kdelibs 4.1.80
[05:45] <szrhawaii_> heres a how to
[05:45] <szrhawaii_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-beta-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[05:45] <szrhawaii_> hatoyu http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-beta-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[05:45] <hatoyu> szrhawaii_: thank you
[05:45] <dwidmann> hatoyu: that would still pull in everything you need to build it, or should anyway
[05:47] <dwidmann> hatoyu: anyhow, that's how I did it ... I've got an svn build from < a week ago
[05:47] <szrhawaii_> hey dwidmann how do i force quit the find files/folders window
[05:48] <szrhawaii_> the killall isnt working
[05:48] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: try hitting ctrl+alt+escape to bring up xkill, then click on it
[05:48] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: or try killall -s kill
[05:49] <szrhawaii_> k
[05:49] <szrhawaii_> the ctrl+alt+esc isnt working
[05:49] <szrhawaii_> even that didnt do it
[05:50] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: if it were it would just change your cursor to an x or something ... it's kind of odd if it's not working though
[05:50] <szrhawaii_> nah same cursor
[05:50] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: of course it can be run manually with the xkill command
[05:50] <szrhawaii_> in terminal
[05:51] <szrhawaii_> that worked
[05:51] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: or from krunner, doesn't really matter where you run it from
[05:51] <szrhawaii_> thanks
[05:51] <szrhawaii_> the cursor does change to an x thats wierd
[05:53] <szrhawaii_> i wonder why they dont allow any real mods to the kdm anymore
[05:53] <szrhawaii_> except the theme way
[05:57] <dwidmann> szrhawaii_: I guess because it's more consistent and easier to distribute/share, is what I'd assume
[05:58] <szrhawaii_> yeah maybe
[06:07] <szrhawaii_> hey dwidmann is a svg file a compiled file or something i can just make using gimp
[06:07] <szrhawaii_> like a png or jpeg
[06:08] <dr_willis> Scaled Vector Graphics
[06:08] <dr_willis> png/jpg are bitmapped graphics.
[06:08] <dr_willis> not 'quite' the same
[06:09] <szrhawaii_> can gimp produce that file if i add it on the end of it when i save it
[06:09] <szrhawaii_> or will it not work
[06:09] <dr_willis> gimp does not edit 'vector' graphics.. so No.
[06:10] <szrhawaii_> so what would i use
[06:10] <dr_willis> dia, and other  vector graphic editors
[06:10] <dr_willis> perhaps.
[06:10] <szrhawaii_> dia
[06:10] <faileas> inkscape i think
[06:10] <szrhawaii_> hmm
[06:10] <dr_willis> try apt-cache search svg
[06:10] <szrhawaii_> ill just look through the package manager
[06:10] <dr_willis> I recall there being some other SVG editors out. not all were GPL.
[06:11] <szrhawaii_> thanks im trying to find a way to make my own kdm
[06:12] <dr_willis> You mean make your own kdm theme?
[06:13] <dr_willis> I recall some SVG editor that had a 'tiger' as a mascot.. but cant rember its name..  googling. seems to imply that Inkscape is very well done however
[06:17] <dr_willis> http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[06:17] <dr_willis> that may be one i was thinking of :)
[06:18] <szrhawaii_> there is a file here that said it was a plugin for gimp that made svg files now its a stand alone program
[06:19] <dr_willis> ive never really messed with SVGs  other then to set them as my wallpaper :)
[06:19] <dr_willis> so cant really advice much on the topic
[06:20] <szrhawaii_> my gimp was making files svg files as a standard file in 3.5
[06:21] <szrhawaii_> now its a different format
[06:21] <dr_willis> I imagine thers some way to get bitmap type images to be svg's but you proberly lose the main benifits of SVG files..
[06:21] <szrhawaii_> yeah theres a thing called autotrace which was a plugin for gimp before
[06:21] <szrhawaii_> now its a stand alone program
[06:22] <szrhawaii_> so that might be one to look at
[06:22] <dr_willis> Not sure what you are really trying to do.. I mussed the core problem...
[06:22] <szrhawaii_> im just changing the background in my oxygen theme
[06:23] <szrhawaii_> for now
[06:23] <szrhawaii_> just to get things started
[06:25] <dr_willis> well good luck.. i dont mess with kde4 much
[06:25] <szrhawaii_> someone has too lol
[06:26] <szrhawaii_> thanks
[06:29] <aotianlong> anyone use dell 1537
[06:29] <aotianlong> why the internal microphone not work
[06:29] <aotianlong> any solostion.
[06:29] <aotianlong> thanks
[06:31] <aotianlong> ?
[06:31] <szrhawaii_> dr_willis that autotrace thing is nice
[06:32] <szrhawaii_> all i got to do is change the filename and it works
[06:33] <szrhawaii_> i got nothing
[07:39] <MinusSeven> xotudoci
[08:30] <Ced_> hey, does anyone know how i execute a .exe as root? I've been a while off ubuntu and i forget how to >_>
[08:30] <Ced_> I have wine, i just need to know how to execute it as root
[08:31] <jussi01> Ced_: why would you need that?
[08:31] <Ced_> To install an application
[08:31] <jussi01> Ced_: you still shouldnt need to execute it as root
[08:31] <jussi01> Ced_: all of wines "hard disk" is in your user folder
[08:32] <Ced_> Hm, odd, well, can you tell me how to do it anyway, so i can be sure?
[08:32] <jussi01> Ced_: no.
[08:32] <Ced_> 'k
[08:32] <Ced_> Well, the problem is that it says it doesnt have permission to install files
[08:33] <jussi01> Ced_: which app?
[08:33] <Ced_> Adobe illustrator
[08:33] <jussi01> Ced_: all I can suggest is to ask in #winehq
[08:34] <Ced_> Ok, will do, thanks for your help!
[08:46] <szrhawaii> dwidmann you still in here
[08:46] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: yeah, I"m back again, I was downstairs watching a movie earlier
[08:47] <szrhawaii> oh hey do you know how to get the webcam option to work in the kopete
[08:47] <Drayakir> Hi. I have a very newb-ish question. I recently installed kubntu, and I love it... but for the life of me, I can't figure out how to open a CD.
[08:48] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: not really, I don't have a webcam
[08:48] <szrhawaii> have you heard anything about that
[08:48] <szrhawaii> i got the window now just not the pictures
[08:48] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: not really
[08:48] <szrhawaii> you know anyone who might
[08:50] <dwidmann> Drayakir: maybe it's not automounting them, try running the command "mount /dev/scd0" and see if you can't get at the files then
[08:50] <dwidmann> szrhawaii: 'fraid not
[08:50] <szrhawaii> k ill try that
[08:50] <Drayakir> It's not that there's an iautoRun on it, it's that there's just a slew of files. But I'll give it a shot, thanks
[08:51] <hatoyu> I have install kde-nighty but when I build kdevelop 4
[08:51] <hatoyu>  ERROR: the installed kdelibs version 4.1.3 is too old, at least version
[08:51] <hatoyu>   4.1.85 is required
[08:51] <Drayakir> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only    Is that good or bad?
[08:51] <szrhawaii> try the ppa
[08:51] <szrhawaii> try the ppa hatoyu
[08:51] <szrhawaii> for the dev files
[08:52] <szrhawaii> or try dwidmanns way through terminal
[08:52] <szrhawaii> for dev files
[08:52] <hatoyu> and I biuld kdelibs 4.1.85
[08:52] <hatoyu> kde-nightly-kdelibs:
[08:52] <hatoyu>   Installed: 20081229+svn903070-0neon1
[08:52] <hatoyu> I think i have install the newest kdelibs
[08:53] <szrhawaii> did you try the sudo apt-get install way he told you earlier also
[08:54] <szrhawaii> 4.1.3 is the kdelibs for kde 4.1
[08:55] <hatoyu> now I have install kde 4.2 beta
[08:55] <szrhawaii> is it still not the newer kdelibs
[08:55] <hatoyu> Yeah I know
[08:55] <hatoyu> How can I get the kdelibs 4.1.85 easyly
[08:56] <szrhawaii> do you want the rpm package
[08:56] <hatoyu> yes that's ok
[08:56] <StR|Sangreal> hola all here!
[08:57] <StR|Sangreal> please, i need some help setting up my new kubuntu .10
[08:57] <szrhawaii> you got i386 or x86_64
[08:57] <hatoyu> szrhawaii: can you give me url
[08:57] <dwidmann> Drayakir: it's just saying that CDs are read only, it's fine
[08:58] <szrhawaii> which version you need i386 or 64
[08:58] <hatoyu> 1386
[08:58] <hatoyu> i386
[08:58] <szrhawaii> http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/10999320/com/kdelibs-4.1.85-1.fc11.i386.rpm.html
[08:58] <szrhawaii> there you go
[08:58] <szrhawaii> thats what i found so far
[08:59] <szrhawaii> its made from fedora
[08:59] <dwidmann> Drayakir: seeing as that seems to have been the problem, there's a file we can edit to take care of it. Run the command "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab", press ctrl+f and search for "scd0", on the line for it, remove the word "noauto"
[08:59] <hatoyu> ok I will try it
[08:59] <szrhawaii> hatoyu heres one for ubuntu jaunty https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/i386/kdelibs-bin/4:4.1.85-0ubuntu2
[09:00] <hatoyu> szrhawaii: I download it now
[09:01] <StR|Sangreal> please, how should i set up my internet connection after reinstalling OS? the wireless network is connected, ip is detected automatically, but i have proxy server and it doesnt seem to trigger
[09:01] <szrhawaii> hatoyu hey you have kubuntu huh
[09:01] <szrhawaii> i found the ppa for it
[09:01] <szrhawaii> if you want that instead
[09:02] <szrhawaii> its easier to upload
[09:02] <hatoyu> szrhawaii: what ppa?
[09:02] <szrhawaii> the repo
[09:02] <szrhawaii> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main >if you through this in your repositories than it will load up in your package manager
[09:03] <hatoyu> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main
[09:03] <szrhawaii> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[09:03] <hatoyu> let me try it
[09:03] <szrhawaii> thats the one from kubuntu
[09:03] <szrhawaii> hatoyu this is where i got it from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[09:04] <szrhawaii> its under instructions
[09:08] <StR|Sangreal> pls is there sb to advise me how to successfully configure my proxy settings for apt and the rest of the system?
[09:12] <sam_> can you move directories from one server to another with scp or just files
[09:13] <JohnFlux> sam_: man scp;   that shows a -r option
[09:13] <JohnFlux> sam_: to copy recursively (i.e. the whole directory)
[09:15] <sam_> JohnFlux: thx so : scp -r /path/to/directory user2@host2:/path/to/endlocation should do it - i'll try that
[09:15] <JohnFlux> sam_: something like that
[09:27] <StR|Sangreal> please, could sb help me here?
[09:30] <StR|Sangreal> i need a hint how to configure my network connection (its a wlan over proxy)
[10:11] <StR|Sangreal> please, is there sb to advise me in configuring my connection?
[10:12] <rene_> my tork is still not working..
[10:27] <Matisse> After changing /boot/grub/menu.lst  my system always starts with ash ! what now ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> starts with ash?
[10:29] <Matisse> some kind of secure mode, because no root partition is found
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> Matisse: does it boot ok with the other kernels (if you have any) in the list?
[10:30] <StR|Sangreal> try set default to 0
[10:30] <Matisse> which default ?
[10:31] <StR|Sangreal> the default num
[10:31] <StR|Sangreal> which tells which configuration should be booted
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> Matisse: compare it to the original and see what has changed
[10:32] <rene_> and my tork?
[10:32] <StR|Sangreal> or simply check which config you want, and its number you should put for the default
[10:32] <Matisse> well, i could try, but if I remember correct,  there were 3 times the same boot options
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> Matisse: you didnt backup the original?
[10:32] <StR|Sangreal> you deleted elder kernel configuration?
[10:33] <StR|Sangreal> and maybe hence the default value is missing
[10:33] <Matisse> I cant change it in ash
[10:33] <StR|Sangreal> first of all, if you can restore the former file, do that, and do comment instead of deleting
[10:33]  * Ash-Fox cannot be changed.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> Matisse: boot to recovery mode (esc when grub loads) and select a failsafe kernel
[10:33] <Matisse> Now I'm running knoppix, but I don't find the directory with the real devices
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | Matisse
[10:34] <Matisse> StR|Sangreal, I have a file with the old settings :)
[10:35] <StR|Sangreal> just replace
[10:35] <StR|Sangreal> wait i must mount my linux partition
[10:35] <StR|Sangreal> :)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> Matisse: rename the faulty menu.lst and reinstate the original so you can boot gracefully, then compare the files by eye
[10:36] <StR|Sangreal> after upgrading to intrepid i cannot connect to the net via wlan...
[10:37] <Matisse> well, you're right. Actually I tried to fill in the correct UUID but blkid didn't work in the ash shell
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: run lspci and lsusb, one line will identify the device, you will need to reinstall the card again for the new system and/or kernel
[10:37] <Matisse> thx for illumination :)
[10:38] <Matisse> i'll try it
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> Matisse: wtg for backing up the original
[10:40]  * ActionParsnip1 wished more folks would backup original conf files
[10:41] <StR|Sangreal> :)
[10:42] <StR|Sangreal> please
[10:42] <StR|Sangreal> i have upgraded to intrepid and my wlan connection fails on approaching the proxy
[10:42] <StR|Sangreal> how should i fix it?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: is it usb or internal?
[10:44] <AS|Sangreal> the wireless module is internal
[10:44] <AS|Sangreal> and appears to be working correctlz
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: then run lspci and you will see what chip it has, you can then install drivers for that chip
[10:46] <AS|Sangreal> i mean the connection is set up
[10:46] <AS|Sangreal> i can loin and ping the dhcp
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> can you ping your wireless acess point?
[10:47] <AS|Sangreal> but i cannot ping the proxy
[10:47] <AS|Sangreal> and sth is wrong cuy eg icq doesnt need http proxz but doesnt work
[10:47] <AS|Sangreal> and adept neither
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> ok, can you ping 38.99.130.180
[10:48] <AS|Sangreal> dont know, i have to reboot
[10:48] <AS|Sangreal> whz that address?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> its an ip
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> of www.bmezine.com
[10:53] <mfilipe> how do I do to downgrade to kde3?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> mfilipe: you must compile source afaik
[10:57] <AS|Sangreal> but the proxy is surely online and working cuz i am using it on mz windoze station
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: sure, but is there any authentication needed to use the proxy?
[10:58] <AS|Sangreal> no
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> if you can access your access point fine then its gonna be hard to diagnose
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> is it 100% necessary to use this proxy?
[10:59] <AS|Sangreal> zes it is
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> can you ping the proxy?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> by name and ip
[11:00] <AS|Sangreal> btw
[11:00] <AS|Sangreal> i cannot ping the gatewaz
[11:00] <AS|Sangreal> nor the dhcp
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: can you connect to anything at all?
[11:01] <AS|Sangreal> i have mz adapter online
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> whats that?
[11:01] <AS|Sangreal> it has detected the network, accepted password and logged in
[11:01] <AS|Sangreal> (i mean the hardware)
[11:02] <AS|Sangreal> but i do not see anz network places and have destination net unreachable
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> do you get an ip address?
[11:02] <AS|Sangreal> yes
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> ok, i'd suggest renaming the /etc/network/interfaces file and rebooting
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> so you can re-establish the link
[11:03] <AS|Sangreal> i dont understand
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: that file contains settings, if you rename it you will get a stock set of settings (blank) you can then reconnect to your access point
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> as if you'd never connected
[11:06] <AS|Sangreal> hm what is the path, ?
[11:06] <AS|Sangreal> should i even create a new blank file for it?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: no its automatically done for you
[11:08] <AS|Sangreal> wtf i cannot see anz files after launching kdesudo dolphin
[11:09] <AS|Sangreal> nor from windoze
[11:10] <rene_> TORK IS RUNNING!! after 5 days working.. what a simple misstake.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: you dont need dolphin
[11:11] <AS|Sangreal> but it is a huge problem
[11:11] <AS|Sangreal> i cannot access mz files
[11:13] <AS|Sangreal> it sazs couldnt connect to klauncher; the name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by anz .service files
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: sounds like you have more issues than you thought
[11:14] <AS|Sangreal> actuallz i have no clue what went wrong
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> thats only when you kdesudo dolphin from what ive seen
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> use the cli command to rename the file and reboot
[11:15] <AS|Sangreal> i have corrupted the update from hardz to intrepid. then i downloaded the dvd and installed. after the installation the net doesnt work and sth what wanted to be downloaded could be
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> did youo md5 check the dvd iso as well as verify the disk once burned?
[11:16] <AS|Sangreal> sure
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> and was it all ok?
[11:16] <AS|Sangreal> yes
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> good
[11:17] <AS|Sangreal> the distro source is probablz fine
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> how did ou corrupt the upgrade from hardy?
[11:17] <frogonwheels> nybody know what causes ksmserver to stop responding to calls?
[11:17] <frogonwheels> did a qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer saveCurrentSessionAs saved
[11:18] <AS|Sangreal> some packages collided with x modules running and didnt execute, thus i had a szstem sth between
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: sounds like a corrupted install then
[11:18] <frogonwheels> then .... /KSMServer sessionList   doesn't show 'saved' inthe list.. just 'default' and 'saved at previous logout'
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: due to these collisions
[11:19] <AS|Sangreal> yes
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> frogonwheels: ive no idea personally, i'd try a little later
[11:19] <AS|Sangreal> didnt help
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: you could boot to failsafe console after adding your install dvd as a repository and run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <AS|Sangreal> what shall i add?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: add you installation dvd as a repository
[11:21] <AS|Sangreal> (would this solve all possible failures of the instl process?)
[11:21] <frogonwheels> ok.. so killall ksmserver was a bad move. (It's ok - I get why)
[11:22] <frogonwheels> did anybody answer me while I was restarting?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> frogonwheels:  ive no idea personally, i'd try a little later. differrent users in here n all
[11:23] <frogonwheels> ActionParsnip1: yeah.  I seem to recall I had this problem when I first tried kde4 on debian
[11:24] <frogonwheels> .. btw it works now I've restarted...
[11:24] <frogonwheels> but I think it's a problem that it hangs somewhere in the middle of a logout call..
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> frogonwheels: fixes lotsa stuff ;)
[11:25] <frogonwheels> ActionParsnip1: yeah. not much help when 1/2 the point of doing it was to save my current session and bring me back to where I was... *sigh*
[11:25] <AS|Sangreal> got stuck onto scanning disc on inex files
[11:25] <AS|Sangreal> -nothing said
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: sounds like a bad disk
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> frogonwheels: you have historys all over the place
[11:26] <frogonwheels> ActionParsnip1: yeah -not critical. just annoying.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> AS|Sangreal: you may also want to fsck your partitions from livecd
[11:29] <AS|Sangreal> the installdvd should be able to checksum itself shouldnt it?
[11:35] <AS|Sangreal> ok i am hashing the disk,
[11:36] <Malic> l
[11:36] <Malic> !de
[11:37] <AS|Sangreal> !de | ubottu
[11:40] <AS|Sangreal> !patience | ubottu
[11:43] <jussi01> AS|Sangreal: please dont abuse the bot.
[11:44] <Malic> which backup programs do you use with kde? is there a comparable one to time-machine für mac os-x?
[11:50] <AS|Sangreal> aloha
[11:50] <AS|Sangreal> i have checked the distro dvd and it is fine
[11:51] <AS|Sangreal> i will apparentlz reinstall but i expect to get into the same situation whence i have already done this so far
[11:57] <jussi01> !backup | Malic
[11:59] <faileas> hmm?
[11:59] <faileas> i didn't know there was a mindo factoid
[11:59] <faileas> XD
[12:04] <rene_> somebody knows how i can change tork server manuelly? i mean not only chnage the server automatickly, i want to choice one
[12:04] <xiooli> hi, could you please tell me what are the counterparts of zenity and gnome-osd in kde?
[12:08] <snikker> how ccan i convert .amr file to .mp3 or .ogg?
[12:24] <darkenergy> any bluetooth developments in intrepid so far?
[12:33] <johannes_> hi
[12:40] <AS|Sangreal> thanks to all
[12:40] <AS|Sangreal> my second installation seems to be selfstanding :)
[12:43] <Reptile> How do i change the standard plasmoid background from black to transparent
[12:51] <rdale> i want to install kubuntu on an hp network that is currently running mandriva off a usb drive - is it possible to do it directly from the internet?
[12:51] <rdale> ^hp network^hp netbook
[12:52] <johannes_> how do i install a jaunty package for one driver only, without replacing the rest of the packages
[12:52] <jussi01> !install | rdale
[12:53] <jussi01> johannes_: you dont. Using packages from other versions breaks things...
[12:54] <rdale> ubottu: ok thanks - i've been searching around, but they don't seem to talk about running an install from a machine that is already running and connected to the internet
[12:54] <jussi01> ubottu: is a bot
[12:54] <jussi01> rdale: have you another machine with ubuntu handy`
[12:55] <jussi01> ?
[12:55] <rdale> yes, i have a macbook running intrepid on the same network
[12:55] <jussi01> rdale: 2 ways to do it then. make a bootable USB or netboot from an iso on the intrepid machine
[12:56] <jussi01> rdale: I strongly suggest the bootable usb
[12:56] <jussi01> very simple to do
[12:56] <jussi01> !usb
[12:57] <rdale> jussi01: yes, a usb sounds best, but the shops are closed where i am because it's a holiday. i think i'll try putting an iso in a directory on my other machine and install from that
[12:57] <jussi01> rdale: and you cant use the one that mandriva is on?
[12:57] <johannes_> with the Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 i have got the problem that the screen flickers when typing prssing one key , like changing focus
[12:57] <johannes_> does anybody have an idea?
[12:58] <rdale> jussi01: well that would wipe mandriva, but i could do that yes
[12:58] <jussi01> rdale: true, but yeah.
[12:59] <jussi01> rdale: so on the intrepid install do: sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[13:00] <jussi01> rdale: then settings -> create a usb startup disk
[13:00] <rdale> and usb-creator will do everything if i just put the mandriva usb stick in the machine running intrepid?
[13:00] <jussi01> rdale: self explanatory from there
[13:01] <jussi01> rdale: youll need an iso to create it from
[13:02] <rdale> if i need to download an iso anyway, so installing from an iso on disk today, and buying another usb stick specially for kubuntu tomorrow sounds the best option
[13:03] <darkenergy> rdale: you could save an image of the usb stick for now
[13:03] <rehman> my konquerer is not opening any page. pleas help
[13:05] <rehman> any linux master here, please?
[13:06] <k4_> rehman: please open konqueror from a konsole and ceck the output
[13:06] <k4_> rehman:  perhaps some proxy stuff
[13:06] <rehman> how to open
[13:06] <rehman> from konsole
[13:07] <jussi01> rehman: open konsole, type: konqueror
[13:17] <k4_> rehman:  this is just for bug finding - normally you dont do this
[13:57] <bram_> hallo
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> lo
[14:05] <Skrot-> hi. is there a known bug in (k)networkmanager where clicking on either a WiFi or Ethernet connection doesn't do anything? The application doesn't seem to react at all
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Skrot-: do both devices work?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Skrot-: do you get ips etc
[14:10] <Skrot-> yes
[14:10] <Skrot-> also, when I plug in the ethernet cable knetworkmanager suddenly reacts
[14:10] <Skrot-> and connects
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> so when does it stop
[14:11] <Skrot-> it stops whenever I want to connect some WiFi network, I click the desired network and nothing happens
[14:11] <Skrot-> it works on occation though
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> try something else like wifi radar
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ive seen a tonne of issues with knetwork manager
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> in here
[14:12] <Skrot-> also, if I get lucky and get to connect a WiFi, connecting to ethernet again by GUI (without unplugging and plugging) won't work :)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> you could sudo ifdown eth0
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> then try connecting to the wifi
[14:14] <Skrot-> I figure this must be a bug in knetworkmanager or the networkmanager deamon. Before I reinstalled with a clean 8.10 I had a dist-upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 with the same issue
[14:16] <vbgunz> how many times should root *ASK* for the password here? -> sudo touch rootfile; sudo -k; echo "hello" | sudo tee rootfile >/dev/null; cat rootfile
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: once
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: if its not, put it in a script and run the script with sudo
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> wait, whats sudo -k?
[14:19] <vbgunz> ActionParsnip: hmm. I thought it should ask twice. isn't this what sudo -k is for?
[14:20] <vbgunz> ActionParsnip: removes timestamp
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> yeah thats the one, then twice
[14:21] <vbgunz> but that line only ever ask for my password once and everything runs... I don't get it and thought I come in here and ask
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> try using && instead of ;
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> && = run if last step passed
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ; = run this command next
[14:28] <mooperd> guys
[14:28] <mooperd> thing look horrific
[14:28] <mooperd> KDE 4.1 is glitchy as hell
[14:28] <mooperd> firefox runs like a troll
[14:29] <BluesKaj> g'morning
[14:30] <JohnFlux> mooperd: kde4.2beta is looking pretty nice
[14:30] <JohnFlux> mooperd: quite a lot of the bug have been ironed out
[14:32] <Zehava> I have phpmyadmin set up and working, and I'd like to get phpbb3 working with it, but I can't seem to get the phpbb to show up in the browser, any suggestions?
[14:34] <mooperd> JohnFlux: how do upgrade to beta?
[14:34] <genii> mooperd: look in the /topic
[14:35] <JohnFlux> mooperd: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-install-kde-42/
[14:36] <JohnFlux> mooperd: oh, or the link in the topic :-D
[14:37] <skulltech> hey
[14:37] <skulltech> any other aussie ubuntu fans here?
[14:42] <skulltech__> i am lookinbg for someone who can help show me the ropes with a few things using a ubuntu intrepid os
[14:43] <Tm_T> !ask
[14:43] <faileas> skulltech__: be specific, and someone may know. unless its obscure as hell ;p
[14:43] <skulltech__> im looking for help with the new ubuntu
[14:44] <faileas> skulltech__: what part of it?
[14:44] <skulltech__> wat apps to use for specific uses
[14:45] <skulltech__> like i know how to use the apps just not sure of the names of them
[14:45] <HappySmileMan> There is a handbook on the livecd listing the most common apps and their Windows equivalents
[14:46] <skulltech__> is there a way to access said handbook without the llivecd?
[14:46] <HappySmileMan> skulltech__: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/about-kubuntu/C/index.html
[14:46] <HappySmileMan> That's an older version of it
[14:46] <StR|Sangreal> hola! how can i upgrade to OOo3?
[14:46] <HappySmileMan> About a year old
[14:46] <BluesKaj> skulltech__ , the best thing to do is to check adept and type in what the app does that you want like video or burn or ...
[14:46] <HappySmileMan> But it's almost the same
[14:47] <thefish> anyone mad much luck with plasmoids and kde4.2? just about all of them error out for me with "could not find requested component: xyz"
[14:47] <thefish> s/mad/had/
[14:48] <StR|Sangreal> lag
[14:49] <shadowhywind> hay all is there a way to mount a folder with a VIDEO_TS folder as a cd?
[14:52] <genii> shadowhywind: I usually just use in Kaffeine: File...Open Directory
[14:52]  * genii brews a fresh pot of coffee
[14:54] <shadowhywind> genii heheh i never even thought of that thanks!
[14:55] <genii> shadowhywind: np
[14:56] <BluesKaj> I wonder if anyone has been successful VLC streaming/converting a dvd to a folder ?
[14:56] <Zehava> what's the command to copy a full directory please
[14:57] <jussi01> Zehava: cp -R
[14:58] <StR|Sangreal> pls, how can i upgrade to ooo3?
[14:58] <Zehava> thanks jussi01
[14:58] <JohnFlux> Zehava: if it's for backing up, using the -a option as well to preserve permissions, owner, etc
[14:58] <mahasamoot> I'm having trouble with sound
[14:59] <Zehava> JohnFlux I appriciate that
[14:59] <mahasamoot> I'm running 8.10, amd64
[15:00] <jussi01> Hrm, I just stabbed myself again :=)
[15:01] <StR|Sangreal> what sort of trouble?
[15:01] <genii> jussi01: Trying to scratch under the cast? ;)
[15:01] <jussi01> cripes... -> #kubuntu-offtopic. sorry!
[15:18] <sam_> hi wanting to connect to ADSL modem to a single kubuntu box, i have 3 NICs on the router and am using firehol for my iptables config
[15:18] <snarkster> anyone know how to adjust the autofsck to include my jfs partition?
[15:20] <sam_> snarkster: sorry, wish i new
[15:20] <snarkster> thank you.
[15:20] <snarkster> it checks my system partiton just fine, just seems to hang up on the jfs.
[15:21] <snarkster> so periodically I get no /home found and back to login screen again
[15:21] <snarkster> is there a cfg file for autofsck?
[15:23] <wesley> Who will go to FOSDEM?
[15:23] <Pici> !ot
[15:29] <setuid_w00t> My icon for /home/myUsername/Desktop is showing up as a question mark in Dolphin.  Any idea why this would have happened?
[15:36] <cuznt> because there is no icon for it?
[15:38] <setuid_w00t> cuznt: I'm pretty sure there used to be an icon for it.
[15:39] <cuznt> does it work when you click on it?>
[15:47] <StR|Sangreal> sorry for a trivial question, but how can i get adobe flash into my firefox and|or opera?
[15:48] <jussi01> StR|Sangreal: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[15:50] <StR|Sangreal> Prevádzam fpdownload.macromedia.com na IP adresu... 92.122.194.70
[15:50] <StR|Sangreal> Pripájam sa k fpdownload.macromedia.com|92.122.194.70|:80... zlyhalo: No route to host.
[15:50] <StR|Sangreal> download failed
[15:54] <CrunchyFerrett> !wireless
[15:56] <CrunchyFerrett> Let the record show that Kubuntu does NOT approve of the HP-G50 laptop out of the box.
[15:59] <stanley_> hey guys i installed compiz so i can change my window decorations...but I have no idea how to run it...an icon doesn't appear in the start menu, can anyone tell me what to do??
[16:00] <CrunchyFerrett> !atheros
[16:09] <bjorn_> Where can I buy a computer with kubuntu preinstalled?
[16:10] <genii> bjorn_:  Dell and System76  both offer Ubuntu preinstalled. From there you can install the Kubuntu desktop
[16:11] <bjorn_> genii, ok. But i would like to have a system with runs smothly, everything tested. no bugs etc.
[16:13] <genii> bjorn_: They will be running Ubuntu smoothly. If you change to KDE desktop there may be issues with Compiz or so, but everything else that worked under Gnome should also work under KDE
[16:23] <vili> Hello, how do you turn X off?
[16:23] <vili> cant install my drivers :(
[16:23] <vili> Anyone?
[16:24] <Tm_T> vili: what drivers you
[16:24] <Tm_T> re installing?
[16:25] <genii> vili: Logout. Then from login screen choose "console login".  After text login do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop   (or use kdm-kde4 if you have kde4)         then do the driver command, whatever that is.     Then after:   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start   (or again, kdm-kde4)
[16:25] <genii> Tm_T: Nvidia likely
[16:25] <CrunchyFerrett> What is the command to tell me which version of Kubuntu I'm running?
[16:26] <genii> CrunchyFerrett: lsb_release -a
[16:26] <CrunchyFerrett> !cookie | genii
[16:26]  * genii munches
[16:26] <CrunchyFerrett> I remember THAT trigger, if nothing else!
[16:30] <flodin> i'm trying out kde by installing kubuntu-desktop
[16:31] <flodin> and i note that it's really slow
[16:31] <flodin> especially the "desktop" plasmoid that comes up when i log on
[16:31] <flodin> dragging the scrollbar updates at maybe 2 fps
[16:32] <CrunchyFerrett> flodin: My expierence has been that KDE4 requires approx the same system resources as Vista Home Premium
[16:32] <flodin> other programs are a bit laggy but not anywhere near as slow as the plasmoid
[16:32] <CrunchyFerrett> if you can't run Vista, then KDE4 is gonna be slow. But that's just my thought.
[16:33] <flodin> well gnome was running fine with all the desktop effects enabled... and this is a dual-core 2ghz system with 1gb ram and an nvidia 8600 card
[16:33] <flodin> if this is normal, then fine i'll just go back to gnome and be happy. But it seemed to me more that something is not working as it should
[16:34] <flodin> it's not using tons of cpu when i scroll around either
[16:35] <CrunchyFerrett> flodin: I retract my earlier statement. You should have more than enough horsepower.
[16:36] <flodin> could it have to do with me running gdm as desktop manager? I'm a bit stumped
[16:36] <flodin> i get 60 fps according to the fps meter effect plugin
[16:37] <flodin> oh. when i scroll the plasmoid it drops to 6 fps
[16:38] <BluesKaj> flodin install htop and see what's using cpu and mem
[16:39] <genii> BluesKaj: I already suspect having Desktop Effects enabled is his resource hog
[16:40] <flodin> it's X
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, it can be ...i have 2G Ram and if i turn compiz on , it slows things a bit but really enuff to be annoying
[16:41] <BluesKaj> not really
[16:42] <flodin> using 100% of one of the cpus
[16:43] <CrunchyFerrett> I surrender. Anyone have a tip on getting the Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x to work?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> i used the cube thing to show my daughter some the 'effects" that compiz/emerald can do , but it's strictly for whizbang fun , other wise it's quite useless for me ...some use it for showing several diff apps that are open simultaneously .
[16:43] <flodin> mostly it's running fine though, it's the plasmoid that really kills performance
[16:44] <flodin> i can drag a maximized transparent window around at 60fps
[16:49] <flodin> it's the same when i disable desktop effects
[16:51] <flodin> oh. Looks like some known problem http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=87865
[16:52] <flodin> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165166
[16:52] <toni_> hola a todos
[16:53] <toni_> soy nuevo en qué página puedo encontrar informacion?, gracias
[16:55] <honza_> b
[16:55] <toni_> hola :)
[16:57] <tomaz_in_nap> ppl, from day 1 of kubuntu 8.10 I have a broken libfam-devel on  repositories, Its`s my db that`s broken or anything else?
[16:59] <bdizzle> hi
[16:59] <bdizzle> for some reason I keep getting Error 16 when I boot. I reboot, then get  Error 18, then reboot again, and get Error 18 - cyllinders exceeded by BIOS or something on GRUB
[16:59] <bdizzle> anyone know how to fix this?
[17:00] <bdizzle> I've got two physical hard drives on my computer, about 5 partitions + swap + home
[17:02] <bdizzle> ?
[17:03] <cuznt> i think it means it can not find grub
[17:03] <cuznt> bdizzle
[17:04] <cuznt> but that is way above my head
[17:04] <BluesKaj> bdizzle , check  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:05] <cuznt> bdizzle might be on a live cd i imagine
[17:05] <bdizzle> no, I'm not
[17:05] <cuznt> cool
[17:05]  * cuznt stfu's now
[17:05] <aleksandar> hello, i am using hardy, a week ago a had an option to upgrade do 8.10 in adept, now it is gone. I would like to upgrade. how do I do it?
[17:06] <bdizzle> BluesKaj: I'm at menu.lst now
[17:06] <bdizzle> what am I looking for?
[17:08] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i just updated wicd and now my wireless doesn't connect at boot up.  i re-entered my encryption settings.  is there a file i need to edit, too?
[17:19] <arathorn> selam
[17:20] <genii> !tr | arathorn
[17:20] <BluesKaj> bdizzle , post you menu.lst on pastebin , so we can check it out
[17:22] <bdizzle> !pastebin
[17:23] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/101156/
[17:28] <BluesKaj> genii , i can't spot anything out of the ordinary on bdizzle pastbin post , can you ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/101156/
[17:28] <SiVA_> hi
[17:29] <SiVA_> I have two laptops. One works with net, the other doesn't. The other one is a fresh install
[17:29] <bdizzle> I haven't had any problems like this for a few months. It started when I transfered over the contents of my laptop hard drive onto my desktop
[17:29] <bdizzle> so now the hard drives are a bit full
[17:29] <SiVA_> when I right click on the knetworkmanager globe on the working laptop, I see "Deactivate Connection->Disable Wireless". But I don't see that Disable/Enable wireless option on the new laptop
[17:30] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm not sure about the uuid line by itself. Usually in that spot is somethng like "root            (hd0,0)"     or so
[17:30] <SiVA_> even tho iwlist ra0 scan shows my router, the usb wifi seems to be working. Do I have to do something to "enable wireless" in kubuntu 8.10?
[17:31] <genii> BluesKaj: This may be some change from 8.04 -> 8.10 however
[17:32] <bdizzle> yeah, I am running 8.10 I think
[17:34] <genii> bdizzle: You currently on a livecd or so on same box?
[17:34] <bdizzle> no
[17:34] <bdizzle> I managed to get it to boot after a few hard reboots (ie, ctrl + alt + del at GRUB)
[17:35] <genii> bdizzle: So this error is on the drive which is the copy?
[17:36] <bdizzle> hold on, I'm not quite sure what you mean
[17:36] <bdizzle> the first physical hard drive is an 80 GB hard drive, containing Windows XP on one partition, and random data files on the other
[17:37] <bdizzle> the second physical hard drive is a 320 GB hard drive, split into three parts. The first two partitions of about 100 GB contain my data from my laptop of my hard drive, while Kubuntu is installed on the third partition
[17:37] <genii> bdizzle: You said earlier: "Error 16 when I boot. I reboot, then get  Error 18, then reboot again, and get Error 18 - cyllinders exceeded by BIOS or something on GRUB"  and also: " It started when I transfered over the contents of my laptop hard drive onto my desktop"
[17:38] <bdizzle> yes
[17:38] <bdizzle> that would probably all be occuring on the second physical hard drive
[17:38] <genii> If you just used for instance dd from one drive to another then put that drive in another box which maps cylinders/heads different, would explain
[17:39] <bdizzle> ah
[17:39] <bdizzle> yeah, I did try to do a direct copy over
[17:39] <SiVA_> can someone please help me with my wireless problem? When I right click on the knetworkmanager it shows my device but says "Wireless disabled"
[17:40] <genii> Work, AFK
[17:40] <BluesKaj> SiVA_, click on the globe icon in the panel ,edit connections
[17:40] <bdizzle> well, hopefully come saturday, I will have my laptop back and I can determine whether or not I need to copy everything back over, or I can just straight delete it off
[17:41] <bdizzle> hopefully the problems will end then
[17:41] <SiVA_> BluesKaj: I did that, but my router isn't showing up. ALthough in the console, iwlist ra0 scan does show it
[17:43] <sehven> can anyone help me on my first install?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> SiVA_, if I remember correctly , there's an optional wizard that scans for dhcp/router , then it wll ask for an option to encrypt wep or wpa , then a password
[17:48] <SiVA_> BluesKaj: Right.. you mean the New COnnection Wizard? Problem is, it doesn't find my router. Why wouldn't it find my router, when I can clearly see it using the console?
[17:49] <SiVA_> if I knew how to configure manually through the console, I'd be all set
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !wifi
[17:51] <sehven> i need help installing kubuntu
[17:51] <SiVA_> shouldn't there be an entry in my /etc/network/interfaces for the particular device?
[17:51] <SiVA_> there isnt.....
[17:52] <genii> Back
[17:52] <EagleScreen> sehven just ask your questions
[17:52] <sehven> ok thx
[17:52] <sehven> i want to install kubuntu with my xp in same hd but in separate partitions
[17:52] <genii> SiVA_: If you want network manager to be able to configure it, no entries there in /etc/network/interfaces   - or else network manager believes it's a manually configured device and does nothing with it
[17:53] <sehven> but during setup my balls run off when i was asked about partitions
[17:53] <sehven> was afraid myt overwrite my xp
[17:53] <sehven> and i dont know how to select where to install kbuntu
[17:53] <EagleScreen> sehven do you know any about partitions and partitioning a disk?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> SiVA_ my prob is that i din't have a prob with wireless when i ran kubuntu live cd on wife's laptop , and i was able connect with 2 clicks and a password , so I'm kinda useless in this situation :(
[17:54] <genii> sehven: Did you run the install from inside of Windows (wubi) or from booting to the livecd ?
[17:54] <sehven> yes
[17:54] <sehven> live cd
[17:54] <SiVA_> genii: Ok, nothing is in there except 'lo'. when I right click the networkmanager I see my device listed byt it says "Wireless disabled". I can sucessfully scan routers on the console though
[17:54] <sehven> was trying to install 8.10
[17:54] <EagleScreen> sehven how many partitions do you have now in your hD?
[17:54] <SiVA_> sehven: You need to free up space in your XP partition first... use XP disk tools to change the size of your partition (if there's onlyu one). Then you can use that free space in ubuntu setup
[17:54] <genii> SiVA_: Does:   ifconfig                           show wlan0 (or ath0 or whatever your wifi interface is named)
[17:55] <jana> hi there...
[17:55] <sehven> only 2 EagleScreen
[17:55] <SiVA_> ifconfig shows ra0 yes.. it's a usb wifi device. Other people have had success with it
[17:55] <SiVA_> genii: yes it does
[17:56] <sehven> SiVA_ i have 2 partitions already, 18/18
[17:56] <SiVA_> genii: Using iwconfig I am able to set the essid and pass key.. then I tried running ifconfig ra0 up but it doesn't fetch an IP address from dhcp
[17:56] <SiVA_> sehven: Are they both used by XP?
[17:56] <genii> SiVA_: Did you:  sudo dhclient ra0                     ?
[17:56] <sehven> nop
[17:56] <EagleScreen> sehven are they C: and D: (Windows fortmat) and sda1 and sda2 (Linux format)??? and what are you using them for???
[17:56] <sehven> their both ntfs too
[17:57] <jana> i'm trying to slow down cpu fan but without any luck... main problem is that i can load powernow-k8 getting this message FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
[17:57] <SiVA_> genii: that's a new one for me... so I configure the device using iwconfig then issue this command to get an IP?
[17:57] <jana> sry cannot load
[17:57] <sehven> EagleScreen its C: and E: and sda1/sda5 was shown
[17:58] <genii> SiVA_: If it has no entry in /etc/network/interfaces like: iface ra0 inet dhcp                 then yes
[17:58] <EagleScreen> sehven are you using now Linux on Live CD?
[17:58] <sehven> nop
[17:58] <sehven> stil on xp
[17:59] <genii> Work, AFK 2-3 minutes
[17:59] <SiVA_> genii: Ok, so how would I automate this every time the computer starts?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> actually sehven , if you run the kubuntu install, choose the manual partitoning option , then choose how much space you would like to use for kubuntu ext3 , and a small amount of space for a swap file. usually a 1G swap will do
[18:00] <EagleScreen> if you have only two partitions and they are sda1 and sda5, you have a singular partition table, it would be useful that you boot Live CD, use konversation to enter in this chat and paste us the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' command
[18:00] <eduardo_> tengo problemas con hi5 y firefox
[18:00] <sehven> yes i saw that, was going to select the whole drive e: for ext3, but was wonderin about the next empty slot with \
[18:01] <eduardo_> alguien podría ayudarme?
[18:01]  * BluesKaj backs off , too many cooks
[18:01] <sehven> ok ill try
[18:01] <genii> SiVA_: The usual way is to put the connection info into /etc/network/interfaces
[18:01] <sehven> lol hope i dont get lost inside linux ^_^
[18:01] <sehven> brb thx
[18:01] <BluesKaj> the / is your main kubuntu home partition
[18:01] <EagleScreen> eduardo_ visita kuubntu-es para hablar en español
[18:02] <EagleScreen> #kubuntu-es
[18:02] <rabx> may I ask a question ?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> !ask
[18:03] <genii> SiVA_: There's an example in posting number 3 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[18:04] <rabx> running Mirc under Wine in Ubuntu. How can I change the window fonts in the channel windows. all I have tried has come to no avail
[18:05] <BluesKaj> why run mirc ?
[18:06] <rabx> because its easy for me to script
[18:07] <SiVA_> genii: thanks. How can I turn my networking on and off after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces withofut restarting my computer?
[18:07] <BluesKaj> haven't run mirc in 4 yrs so I've forgotten a lot ...never ran scripts in it anyway
[18:10]  * BluesKaj wonders what scripts ppl run in mirc
[18:10] <rabx> ah ok fyi Im an op/botmaster in a channel on another network , so I really need to be able to script quickly without having to do stuff in tcl
[18:10] <rabx> hence the use of mircscript
[18:11] <BluesKaj> maybe you should ask in #mirc
[18:11] <SiVA_> genii: dhclient keeps sending out broadcasts to 255.255.255.255 but doesn't get an ip :(
[18:12] <SiVA_> I notice after running it ifconfig shows a new entry: ra0:avahi and it has some strange inet addr
[18:12] <SiVA_> q
[18:12] <rabx> doubt they would know, but Ill try Thanks bud
[18:12] <genii> SiVA_: Apologies on lag, work required me. To restart networking without reboot, usually:   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:13] <genii> SiVA_: Conceivably your wireless router is not broadcasting it's ssid
[18:14] <SiVA_> the laptop I'm on now uses 8.10 and I used the network manager to configure it successfully. I have another laptop too here that worked out of the box
[18:16] <SiVA_> anyway I can install the gnome network manager tool and try that?
[18:16] <genii> SiVA_: Not sure how well that works under KDE
[18:17] <ohzie> Can I make gqenview no open up inside konqueror, and instead open up in a different window?
[18:17] <ohzie> gwenview**
[18:23] <Kupari> Hello, how can i find my real IP address, ifconfig shows 10.0.0.3
[18:26] <ThomasD> Kupari: your external ip? go to a site like www.myip.dk
[18:27] <ohzie> Can I set konqueror so that it's click-to-select and double-click to open?
[18:27] <ThomasD> Kupari: or your local? cause in that case it is what ifconfig tells you it is ;-)
[18:27] <ThomasD> ohzie: jes, somewhere in kcontrol
[18:28] <ThomasD> ohzie: in kde 3.5 anyway
[18:28] <ohzie> thomas_, :/
[18:33] <ThomasD> ohzie: just use control to select a file
[18:34] <ThomasD> you get used to it ;-)
[18:36] <ohzie> ThomasD, I double-click out of habit, and then the file opens twice.
[18:36] <ohzie> I'd rather just make it work the way I want it to.
[18:37] <SSJ_GZ> ohzie: KDE3 or 4?
[18:37] <ohzie> 4.3.1
[18:37] <ohzie> errr
[18:37] <ohzie> 4.1.3
[18:37] <SSJ_GZ> ohzie: Hehe
[18:37] <ohzie> SSJ_GZ, :3
[18:37] <ohzie> To be honest, xfce4, with konqueror as my file manager. Frankly, nautilus and thunar both suck.
[18:37] <ohzie> A lot.
[18:38] <SSJ_GZ> ohzie: Open System Settings, go to the Mouse section (you can do a search for it).  You'll see the setting you want.
[18:38] <ohzie> and I haven't played with dolphin much yet. :\
[18:38] <ohzie> Oh thank god. :D
[18:40] <SSJ_GZ> Hehe :)
[18:40] <SiVA_> holly sh1t
[18:40] <DarkAdmiral> i wonder why there is no kde4 rc1 released :(
[18:40] <SiVA_> after 2 days of kicking and screaming, I finally got the network going!!!!
[18:42] <vladimir__> Всем привет.
[18:42] <genii> SiVA_: Congrats :)
[18:42] <genii> !ru | vladimir__
[18:42] <genii> vladimir__:  /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:42] <vladimir__> Народ подскажите пожалуйсто как попасть в delphin под rootом
[18:42] <SiVA_> genii: I gave up on the USB device, and went back to the PCMCIA card. It didn't work at first... for some strange reason I have to plug it in, take it out and plug it in again for it to work : /
[18:43] <SiVA_> off now to get the mac going. thanks genii
[18:44] <genii> SiVA_: Best luck
[18:46] <holycow> what is the kde pdf reader?  i don't see kpdf in the repos any more
[18:46] <vladimir__> вав
[18:50] <dabear> holycow, okular
[18:51] <alonea> ok, I though my volume buttons didn't work, but I found that they actually do, but its controlling the PCM channel instead of "front". How do I change this?
[18:53] <alonea> DaSkreech: hello
[18:54] <alonea> nm...
[18:55] <alonea> I got it to go to right channel, but is there any way to get the light change on mute to work? it used to turn red when its muted.
[18:57] <Benny1981BE> Hi there... I'm using Ubuntu for the first time and I would like to know if any of you have any advise for me ?
[18:57] <alonea> be patient
[18:57] <holycow> dabear: danke
[18:58] <dabear> :)
[18:58] <Benny1981BE> is it that slow ?
[18:58] <dabear> what should be slow?
[18:58] <Benny1981BE> ubuntu
[18:58] <dabear> ?
[18:59] <alonea> if you have problems, try fixing them one at a time. Do not be afraid of the terminal and have a willingness to learn. Do expect things to magically happen.
[18:59] <alonea> *dont expect
[18:59] <Benny1981BE> well... i prefered "Do expect" but anyway...
[18:59] <heapy> hello !
[18:59] <alonea> slow? the OS? no, it shouldn't be.
[18:59] <Benny1981BE> is it known to generate a lot of problems ?
[18:59] <DaSkreech> Hi alonea
[19:00] <DaSkreech> holycow: okular
[19:00] <alonea> problems are generally users wanting things configured a different way. As for hardware issues, that really depends on what you have and what you are trying to do.
[19:00] <heapy> just thought i would pop by and say announce im trying kubuntu hardy for the first time
[19:01] <heapy> so far, so good :)
[19:01] <DaSkreech> Hi Benny1981BE how are you?
[19:01] <DaSkreech> heapy: Welcome!!
[19:01] <alonea> heapy: intrepid has support for the updated kde versions, hardy does not as far as I saw.
[19:01] <Benny1981BE> I see... so if I'm using it well it should work well... right ? ^
[19:02] <alonea> it should. The system is very stable for me on my not so good laptop
[19:02] <DaSkreech> Benny1981BE: A simple rule of thumb I follow is that the first 2-3 weeks suck
[19:02] <DaSkreech> After that it starts to get comfortable
[19:02] <heapy> its sound alonea, im quite happy wiv kde 3.5, i need a stable system and kubuntu has that sussed as far as im aware wiv hardy
[19:02] <StR|Sangreal> i just thought that DaSkreech is sth like a welcoming bot ;)
[19:02] <alonea> heapy: ah yes, if you are using 3.5, then  intrepid isn't necessary.
[19:02] <DaSkreech> After like 2 months most things work so well you just stay. They pretty much work better as you go along and understand more
[19:03] <Benny1981BE> great :) that's good news. Thanks a lot for your time
[19:03] <DaSkreech> !hi | StR|Sangreal
[19:03] <heapy> i have been playing around wiv open suse 11.0, and tbh, kbuntu has it wooped
[19:03] <seele> does the kde4 network manager come in the beta?
[19:03] <DaSkreech> heapy: Yeah KDE 3.5 is quite stable
[19:03] <StR|Sangreal> (with no offense, it is great to maintain a friendly atmosphere in here, seriously)
[19:03] <DaSkreech> seele: caffeine.nu ?
[19:03] <seele> DaSkreech: uh yes?
[19:04] <DaSkreech> What's .nu ?
[19:04] <seele> dunno, not my server
[19:04] <DaSkreech> oh hi seele :-)
[19:04] <DaSkreech> Still doing Quassel tests?
[19:04] <alonea> Benny1981BE: and if you have any issues, people are usually around to help out. Most common stuff I see is wireless cards and video cards. For me, if I can get those to work, other issues are trivial to fix if they exist at all
[19:04] <seele> no.. i'm trying to figure out how to use the kde4 network manager in the kde4.2 beta for kubuntu :P
[19:05] <DaSkreech> alonea: true. You'd think with such a focused problem pool it would be solved aleady :)
[19:05] <DaSkreech> seele: RC is out soon?
[19:05] <DaSkreech> The network manager is a plasmoid now correct?
[19:05] <heapy> here is a quick question, does anyone have a lexmark printer working wiv ubuntu?
[19:05] <DaSkreech> !lexmark
[19:05] <DaSkreech> :-)
[19:05] <heapy> sound lad
[19:05] <holycow> DaSkreech: thats funny you mention two weeks
[19:05] <DaSkreech> try the hardware support link
[19:06] <holycow> we here have a 2 day, 2 weeks, 2 months rule
[19:06] <DaSkreech> Why's that blessedbeef?
[19:06] <alonea> DaSkreech: really. what depresses me is drivers for my vid card suck in windows as well as linux, though compiz is wonderful. Its just wine is a never gonna happen for me.
[19:06] <DaSkreech> The first two hours don't count? :(
[19:06] <StR|Sangreal> sorry to disturb... how could i painlessly install gnome for trying into my distro?
[19:06] <DaSkreech> alonea: What Video card?
[19:06] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: Which distro?
[19:06] <holycow> 2 days to just kindas learn the basics, where icons are, what apps to use,  2 weeks to iron out about 80% of all workflow and technical issues, 2 months to resolve 99% of all workflow and technical issues
[19:06] <StR|Sangreal> kubuntu intrepid
[19:07] <holycow> it pretty much is dead on for most users
[19:07] <alonea> DaSkreech: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)..*cries*
[19:07] <DaSkreech> holycow: Yeah if they survive the first two hours :)
[19:08] <DaSkreech> alonea: Didn't they have updated drivers for that recently?
[19:08] <robile> whats the command to show all processses? ax ps or sth. like that
[19:08] <alonea> DaSkreech: yeah, and they made things a little better, but 3d apps in wine are very unstable and often crash the xserver
[19:08] <genii> ps aux
[19:09] <robile> os ax
[19:09] <DaSkreech> robile: ps aux
[19:09] <robile> keke :p
[19:09] <genii> (this shows users as well)
[19:09] <robile> ty
[19:09] <DaSkreech> all processes from all users even if they don't have a parent terminal
[19:09] <alonea> DaSkreech: and intel didn't make very good drivers for windows either. I searched the card once and oh my the list of angry people goes on and on
[19:10] <DaSkreech> WEll Wine is wonky what 3D games are you trying?
[19:10] <alonea> DaSkreech: in native linux, its actually pretty good. Guild Wars and WoW. Both gold or plat. games. Guild Wars I can't even get to the logon screen before the xserver crashes.
[19:11] <heapy> bbs lads have a nice evening
[19:12] <alonea> DaSkreech: WoW runs for about 5 minutes, then gets very slow until it freezes. not to mention the graphical mess ups
[19:12] <DaSkreech> have you tracked where the leak is from?
[19:12] <DaSkreech> Wine X or the drivers ?
[19:13] <alonea> DaSkreech: I can't. I have to sys rq. Doesn't the log dissapear after that?
[19:13] <DaSkreech> Hmm Not sure I should find that out :)
[19:14] <topo> ciao
[19:14] <topo> hallo
[19:14] <alonea> DaSkreech: heh. and don't get me started on the windows issues...lets just say changing settings that on other cards would improve framerates has no effect whether you raise them or lower them.
[19:16] <DaSkreech> can't be that hard to get a none Intel card
[19:16] <Bauldrick> is there a command line 'network manager'
[19:17] <hyper_ch> Bauldrick: there's the /etc/network/interfaces file taht you can manually edit thruoght the command line
[19:18] <alonea> DaSkreech: a none intel card?
[19:18] <DaSkreech> non
[19:18] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[19:18] <DaSkreech> Laptop huh?
[19:18] <alonea> DaSkreech: laptop...
[19:19] <alonea> and when I got it, to get the better card was I think 200-300 more.
[19:20] <DaSkreech> Ouch
[19:21] <rolf29> HELP..
[19:21] <Bauldrick> i need somebody...
[19:22] <alonea> Help!
[19:22] <Bauldrick> oooooooooooooohhhh
[19:22] <Pici> !ask
[19:22] <rolf29> anyone who can tell me how to use beryl insted off compiz fusion on kde 4.1??
[19:22] <alonea> Bauldrick: ^_^. Was continuing on there.
[19:22] <Pici> rolf29: Beryl is no longer supported.
[19:22] <rolf29> ok
[19:23] <Pici> rolf29: In fact, Compiz Fusion is a merge of the Beryl and Compiz projects.
[19:23] <rolf29> i cant get the windows to burn up and such whit compis fusion
[19:24] <rolf29> the windows efect is enabled but wont take action..
[19:25] <DaSkreech> rolf29: What do want to do that for?
[19:25] <rolf29> when i open a window i want it to fold like a plane, but it dosent work..
[19:26] <DaSkreech> rolf29: take it up in #compiz
[19:33] <wanted74> bonsoir
[19:33] <Pici> !fr | wanted74
[19:34] <wanted74> sorry
[19:34] <wanted74>  i quit sorry
[19:40] <john> hello
[19:40] <Guest94352> can anyone tell me if there's BCM wireless support in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:47] <alonea> Broadcom?
[19:47] <HReiser> yes
[19:48] <alonea> there should be. Mine worked out of the box, though some cards may need to be ndiswrapped like before.
[19:48] <HReiser> what module do you load?
[19:48] <HReiser> I have BCM4312
[19:49] <alonea> HReiser: i have same card and it worked out of box with hardy and intrepid
[19:49] <HReiser> I booted from the live CD and didn't see any wireless. shoulded do something in plus?
[19:50] <alonea> HReiser: well, I don't know about the live cd, but you can't assume it will read hardware the same off of the disk compared to when it installs and configures your hardware.
[19:51] <HReiser> alonea, thank you. How can I be sure I have the same wireless card?
[19:51] <HReiser> i'm not sure 100% about that
[19:51] <alonea> lspci in terminal
[19:52] <alonea> HReiser: this is the card I have: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[19:52] <HReiser> one second to check this out
[19:53] <HReiser> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)
[19:53] <tue> Hello. I have just installed kubuntu 8.10 on my laptop. I would like to use an external monitor, ie. not a dual head setup, just so that when the external monitor is plugged in and xorg is restarted the external monitor is used. I got an ati x1300 card, so i figure i should use aticonfig to generate the correct xorg.conf?
[19:53] <HReiser> should be ok then...
[19:53] <alonea> HReiser: hopefully. the support seems much better than it used tobe
[19:54] <HReiser> alonea, thank you very much!
[19:54] <HReiser> let's hope we won't use ndiswrapper
[19:54] <alonea> HReiser: its a pain.
[19:54] <HReiser> oh yes
[19:54] <HReiser> belive me
[19:54] <HReiser> the first thing when I brought my new laptop was: a intel wireless
[19:54] <HReiser> first thing belive me
[19:55] <HReiser> not a thing about the CPU or smth :D
[19:55] <HReiser> Intel all the way
[19:55] <HReiser> Intel has much better coverage
[19:56]  * HReiser chroot /jail/Hans_Reiser /home/Hans_Reiser !!!
[20:01] <alonea> hate it when my nick ghosts...back now
[20:01] <HReiser> what do you mean?
[20:01] <HReiser> it's a AFK or smth?
[20:04] <alonea> HReiser: me? by ghost? I switched internet and it didn't release me from the server. so you have to kill your ghost.
[20:12] <michi> guten abend
[20:13] <Pici> !de | michi
[20:14] <michi> sorry, i thought this is the german channel. i just upgraded from hardy to intrepid and there are some things different
[20:16] <heapy> hello,
[20:16] <kayetanadmin> ???????????/
[20:16] <kayetanadmin> anyway
[20:17] <heapy> does this error msg mean anything to anyone? - signal 8 sigfpe? - i was just lookin at ebay using konqueror and got that error
[20:17] <michi> could anybody here please help me installing w32 codecs? medibuntu does  not work like on hardy heron
[20:19] <omarco> does anyone know of a software to crop photographs that offer similar functionality to the Crop tool from Photoshop?
[20:22] <ghostcube> hy guys ! i want to know how i can get jackd as source to my systemsettings  or  is this not possible on kubuntu ?
[20:22] <heapy> mm i only seem to get this sigfpe error when loggin into ebay? issit cus it asks to dload java?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> michi , w32codecs...there is no space ..medibuntu hardy has be replaced with the new version source
[20:23] <BluesKaj> has to be replaced with
[20:23] <BluesKaj> omarco , try the gimp
[20:24] <jiha> How can I change colors and icons for kde3 apps when only kde4 systemsettings is delivered with ubuntu 8.10 and no more kcontrol?
[20:24] <jiha> any ideas?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> jiha , that's a tough one ...there is a way but it involves reinstalling the OS
[20:26] <kayetanadmin> DAMN i am on the KUBUNTU 1
[20:26] <kayetanadmin> i need help on UBUNTU
[20:26] <omarco> BluesKaj: tried it, it's cropping tool is too simplistic and cubersome, and it doesn't offer any redeeming functionality
[20:26] <kayetanadmin> can someone help me
[20:26] <jiha> BluesKaj: How does it work?
[20:27] <kayetanadmin> i am really strugglin here cos i got no sound but sound card is detected
[20:29] <jiha> BluesKaj: Do you have a link to a howto or such?
[20:29] <something132> hello [ep[;e
[20:29] <something132> people
[20:29] <something132> i need help with ubuntu 8.10
[20:30] <PSiL0> something132: join #ubuntu
[20:30] <BluesKaj> jiha , I saw alink on google a while back but it looked like a lot of work ...i'm used kde4 now
[20:31] <jiha> BluesKaj: The problem is that there are some apps that are not yet ported. Like kile.
[20:31]  * jiha has an idea.
[20:31] <jiha> I have an .kde folder from ubuntu 8.04 with the correct settings for icons and colors.
[20:32] <jiha> Maybe copying works.
[20:32] <BluesKaj> jiha . it looks available in adept
[20:32] <BluesKaj> kile that is
[20:33] <jiha> BluesKaj: kile is still a kde 3.x app, afaik
[20:33] <BluesKaj> jiha , just change the icons in icon settings on the desktop or panel
[20:34] <jiha> BluesKaj: With systemsettings?
[20:34] <jiha> That does not work :-(
[20:36] <BluesKaj> no , right click on the app , choose icon settings then click on the icon in the dialogbox
[20:36] <BluesKaj> you'll sees adropdown list od choices
[20:36] <BluesKaj> of
[20:40] <jiha> BluesKaj: But I don't mean the app's icon. I mean *all* icons within the app's toolbars etc that can't be changed.
[20:45] <BluesKaj> jiha , sorry,  dunno how to help with that
[20:53] <craver> !list
[21:08] <DaSkreech> omarco: Gwenview and digikam as well as Krita can do that
[21:10] <ivan_> heh
[21:13] <wad> Hi, folks. I'm trying to figure out how to clone the display on my laptop, so I can use an external monitor at the same time as my laptop screen.
[21:13] <wad> How can I tell what resolution I'm currently in?
[21:14] <omarco> DaSkreech: Thanks, I'll have a look at those :-)
[21:18] <genii> wad: xdpyinfo should tell you
[21:19] <wad> ah, thanks!
[21:19] <nicklas_> lol it was just me to check the channel
[21:20] <wad> Ah, that does!
[21:21] <wad> genii: So... When boot up with the external CRT unplugged, I get the display on my laptop screen, at 1400x1050. When I boot with the CRT plugged in, I get the display on it, at 1280X1024.
[21:21] <wad> What I want to do is get both of them, all the time, at 1400x1050. Is this possible?
[21:22] <genii> wad: Not sure. Does the crt support that?
[21:22] <wad> Sure, it's a CRT, not an LCD. :)
[21:22] <wad> At least, I suppose it does... gonna check the specs. Viewsonic G810
[21:24] <genii> wad: http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/viewsonic/viewsonicg810.html   reports 1600x1280 possible
[21:24] <wad> I found that too. :) But does it support 1400x1050?
[21:24] <wad> I would assume it would.
[21:25] <heapy> does this error msg mean anything to anyone? - signal 8 sigfpe? - i was just lookin at ebay using konqueror and got that error
[21:25] <wad> genii: Do you know how linux works? Why doe I get both displays active when I'm logging in under KDE, but not after I log in?
[21:25] <wad> Some freaking xorg.conf thing, no doubt. That xorg.conf is just baffling.
[21:28] <dr_willis> wad,  what video chipset is this anyway?
[21:28] <wad> Some Intel chipset... it's a Lenovo T61 laptop.
[21:28] <genii> wad: Besides which the Xorg people are going away entirely from using it as well
[21:28]  * wad looks it up.
[21:29] <dr_willis> There are Thinkpad specifi linux forums - i recall...
[21:29] <wad> genii: I hope they will replace it with something more usable?
[21:29] <wad> I'm a hard-core computer geek of several decades, and even I can't figure it out.
[21:29] <dr_willis> ive very little hassles with configuiring  my xorg.conf :)
[21:29] <dr_willis> but it does pay to tinker with it.
[21:30] <genii> wad: As I understand it's supposed to end up where udev just tells X binary whats attached and no conf files
[21:30] <wad> I spent a whole day fiddling with it a while back. I'd set it up, and it would do seemingly random things instead.
[21:30] <wad> genii: That would be nice... as long as it gives the user control!
[21:30] <dr_willis> Of course now a days - its getting more and more minimal.. so when it works like you want its great.. when it dont.. You are back to  trying to undo the automatic stuff
[21:30] <wad> yeah. *shudder*
[21:30] <genii> dr_willis: Yup
[21:31] <dr_willis> sounds like windows. :) eitehr it works.. or its a pain...
[21:31] <wad> Anyhoo... So should I play with xorg.conf to try to get this to work?
[21:31] <wad> The core problem is that I don't understand how it works.
[21:31] <dr_willis> :) but at least under linunx you can go back to the old xorg.conf if ya want
[21:31] <wad> For some reason, when I boot without a monitor attached, it uses 1400x1050 on the laptop display.
[21:31] <genii> wad: You could make a tradition entry for the crt with the H and V refresh raes
[21:32] <wad> When I boot with the CRT attached, I get both displays, up to the point where I've logged in... then the laptop goes dark, and I have the CRT at 1280x1024. STRANGE!
[21:32] <dr_willis> ive also noticed with external monitors - some times the pc/mb/bios/chipset try to  be 'smart' and do things what they think is the right way
[21:32] <genii> wad: Then it would try to use highest common value both crt and lcd support
[21:32] <wad> genii: I've already got that, I think.
[21:32] <wad> I want a cloned display, same thing on both screens.
[21:32] <wad> That's why I want 1400x1050 on the CRT.
[21:32] <dr_willis> you are cloning a wide screen to a non wide screen? or was the LCD not wide screen?
[21:32] <wad> No wideness here. :)
[21:33] <dr_willis> that must be an Old laptop. :)
[21:33] <wad> Naw, it's fairly newish.
[21:33] <wad> dual-core CPU, 160GB HDD, 4 GB RAM.
[21:33] <wad> Or maybe 2GB RAM...
[21:33] <dr_willis> i dont even recall seeing any in stores lately thats not wide screen
[21:33] <dr_willis> ive never had a CRT that could do  1400x1050  either
[21:34] <wad> I think a CRT can do whatever you send it, as long as it's lower than the max.
[21:34] <dr_willis> its possible its a limit of the video card that it cant do the higher res's with  2 moniotrs.
[21:34] <wad> You can fiddle with the controls on the front of the monitor to correct the aspect ratio as needed.
[21:34] <wad> dr_willis: That's a good point!
[21:34] <dr_willis> wad,  well with some CRT's perhaps.. but i wouldent guarentee that.
[21:34]  * wad nods.
[21:34] <dr_willis> I dont even have a PC with a CRT any more
[21:35] <wad> Yeah, yeah. But I do... I'm not as rich as you guys, able to afford the latest gear. :P
[21:35] <dr_willis> and Most of those laptops /makers may make assumptions on  assuming the user will be attatching a projector to the external vga.
[21:35] <wad> Should I start with the xorg.conf, you think?
[21:36] <wad> I'm going to reboot.
[21:37] <genii> wad: http://www.mepis.org/node/11112    has a bunch of what seem valid modelines for this monitor in the xorg.conf example
[21:37] <genii> wad: One of which is: Modeline "1400x1050" 129 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync
[21:37] <heapy> has anyone come across a signal 8 sigfpe error ? i got this when looking at ebay...
[21:42] <dr_willis> ebay? You meay to say your browser crashed with that error while looking at ebay.com ?
[21:47] <ICeBall> Quick question, is the new alpha able to run in mc virtual machine? I tried to start it and right after it loads hardware drivers, the screen goes green, then the screen messes up and freezes
[21:47] <BluesKaj> alpha ?
[21:48] <leandro_> Hi, I would like to change my keyboard layout. But not just on kde, onthe wholew system
[21:48] <ICeBall> jaunty witht the new kde
[21:48] <leandro_> How do I do that?
[21:48] <ICeBall> kde 4.2 beta
[21:49] <wad> I figured it out!
[21:49] <Tm_T> ICeBall: FYI there's not much support in Jaunty yet
[21:49] <wad> xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024
[21:49] <wad> then xrandr -s 1400x1050
[21:49] <ICeBall> @leandro go to control center and regional i think, w/e has the flag icon with it.
[21:50] <leandro_> but I waqnbt that the change affects all the system
[21:50] <leandro_> including coinsole
[21:50] <leandro_> and kdm
[21:50] <leandro_> I know how to change on kde, but I want ti change on the whole system
[21:50] <ICeBall> Tm_T ty, another question, I had osx86 on my system, then installed windows in another partition, will gparted be able to recognize hfs?
[21:52] <ICeBall> @leandro then you need to download a locolized version, or durring install choose youre language and keyboard layout, etc
[21:52] <DaSkreech> ICeBall: #ubuntu+1
[21:52] <ICeBall> DaSkreech: ty
[21:52] <leandro_> yes... btu I changed my keyboad and don[ t want to reinstall the system
[21:52] <DaSkreech> There should be a way to do that system wide I think
[21:52] <DaSkreech> configs in /etc ?
[21:53] <leandro_> I am pretty sure that there must be a way, but i do not know in which file
[21:53] <ICeBall> Yeah, i think there is a eaier way though, i forget the pkg name, but something like langlib-xxx, where xxx is language
[21:53] <ICeBall> i cant member though
[21:54] <genii> !info language-selector-qt
[21:55]  * genii brews a fresh batch of coffee
[21:56] <genii> I think you may need as well language-support-<language-code>     possibly language-support-translations-<language-code>
[21:57] <ICeBall> !info server
[21:57] <ICeBall> oops
[21:57] <ICeBall> !info gparted
[21:58] <leandro_> xorg.conf for example do not have layout configured there
[21:58] <ICeBall> What would work better as a work station including lampp, gnome or kde?
[21:58] <ICeBall> or would it really matter?
[21:59] <leandro_> Does anybody knows where xorg reads config for keybvoard layout
[21:59] <ICeBall> !info xorg-config
[21:59] <genii> ICeBall: Doesn't really matter. Most real servers should actually run headless though
[22:00] <ICeBall> genii: ty, yeah i know, but my teacher does not know linux well enough for that :P.
[22:00] <genii> ICeBall: Then whatever desktop you like, with firefox so they have something familiar to use on whatever web control panels you install later
[22:01] <wad> Yep, this works. I get 1400x1050 on both displays, cloned. :)
[22:01] <wad> Thanks for your help, guys.
[22:01] <wad> xarndr is the right tool.
[22:01] <ICeBall> genii ok ty, and on the side, what is that thing called in gnome, its like that 3d box to switch between apps?
[22:01] <genii> wad: Well, you did the figuring out part :)
[22:02] <wad> Yeah, but you guys were great moral support. ;)
[22:02] <genii> ICeBall: I think you mean "compiz" but not certain
[22:02] <ICeBall> !info compiz
[22:02] <ICeBall> genii: ok yeah, ty for the help
[22:03] <genii> I have to go /away now,  I'll be /back in a couple-few hours
[22:03] <ICeBall> genii: can you use compiz on kde?
[22:03] <ICeBall> kk, cya
[22:03] <genii> ICeBall: Not easily on the newer kde4
[22:03] <ICeBall> but on 3?
[22:03] <ghostcube> http://dot.kde.org/1170773239/1170778900/1170862970/1170863051/kcmphonon5.png  can anyone help me to get this in 8.10 ?
[22:04] <ghostcube> what am i missing for jackd in source list
[22:04] <ICeBall> ghostcube: what is exactly missing?
[22:04] <ICeBall> or what do you want
[22:05] <ghostcube> if i start jackd i cant see it in the xine phonon backend list as a available source
[22:05] <ghostcube> and i dont know how to manage this here
[22:05] <ICeBall> !info jakd
[22:05] <ICeBall> well thats now help :P
[22:05] <ICeBall> no*
[22:05] <ICeBall> !info jackd
[22:05] <ghostcube> i have the packages all works fine but i cant use this with phonon like on the screenshot
[22:06] <ghostcube> and need to know what iam missing
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> I think ubuntu disables the jack xine plugin
[22:07] <ICeBall> OO, i think that its also youre sound card, i have the same one
[22:07] <ICeBall> its a bogger sometimes
[22:07] <ghostcube> JontheEchidna, oh
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> they did so to fix this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/203605
[22:10] <ghostcube> :|
[22:12] <mercutio22> hi. Whats the packager manager name for KDE4?
[22:13] <JontheEchidna> mercutio22: adept
[22:14] <mercutio22> JontheEchidna> where is it to be found?
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> where in the menu?
[22:15] <mercutio22> and the terminal app?
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> konsole is the name of the terminal app
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> both are in the "system" submenu
[22:15] <mercutio22> JontheEchidna> I think I don't have it. Which packages do I have to install to have the regular KDE applications?
[22:16] <kapono> anyone know how to work your pod tuch second gen on ubuntu?
[22:16] <mercutio22> I think I am using metacity as my window manager in compiz, which is the KDE one?
[22:17] <JontheEchidna> mercutio22: you're using intrepid, right? If so, installing kubuntu-desktop should give you a standard KDE4 install
[22:18] <BattleStarJesus> How do I configure specific users to not be displayed on the login screen?
[22:20] <DaSkreech> BattleStarJesus: From System Settings
[22:23] <mercutio22> JontheEchidna> thanks
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> mercutio22: you're welcome
[22:28] <omwami> hi
[22:33] <DaSkreech> !hi
[22:33] <DarkriftX> anyone here know where i could find a tutorial/guide on compiling mencoder from svn?
[22:33] <DarkriftX> google isnt treating me well
[22:34] <khakane> treat it like a prostitute
[22:34] <DarkriftX> heh
[22:34] <HappySmileMan> ....
[22:34] <DarkriftX> all i get as resutls are "compiling ffmpeg" and if i use -ffmpeg, i get "compiling mplayer"
[22:35] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: Why are you compiling ?
[22:35] <DarkriftX> i was told to compile the latest mencoder for a script im running
[22:35] <DarkriftX> well "compile svn mencoder" was what i was told
[22:35] <david_edmundson> heh, how old was that document though....
[22:36] <DarkriftX> wasnt a document
[22:36] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[22:36] <DarkriftX> was someone telling me to do it
[22:36] <DaSkreech> where did you get the script
[22:36] <david_edmundson> DarkriftX: mencoder is part of mplayer (kinda)
[22:36] <DaSkreech> and how old was it?
[22:36] <administrator_> hey all
[22:36] <DarkriftX> days old DaSkreech
[22:36] <administrator_> having a pretty serious problem here...  adept throws a sig11 whenever i try to update repos
[22:36] <DaSkreech> What do they need from the svn mencoder?
[22:36] <DarkriftX> the script is to encode video for a device that is less than 2 months old
[22:36] <DaSkreech> administrator_: do it from the command lin
[22:36] <DaSkreech> +e
[22:37] <administrator_> if i try to sudo apt-get update from the cli i get an error too
[22:37] <DarkriftX> i have no idea, i just try to do as told so if it doesnt work its not my fault lol
[22:37] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: ah that would be it
[22:37] <administrator_> DaSkreech: sudo apt-get update, right?
[22:37] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: sudo apt-get build-dep mencoder
[22:37] <DaSkreech> administrator_: yes
[22:38] <administrator_> DaSkreech: that throws a serious of errors about repos not being updated, signatures are invalid...  and tells me to run apt-get update again
[22:38] <administrator_> *series of errors, i meant to say
[22:38] <administrator_> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release
[22:38] <administrator_> etc
[22:39] <administrator_> The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[22:40] <administrator_> this *just* stopped working.  ive been using it as a termserver (ltsp) and everyone that uses it does so with restricted privileges so i dont see how its possible...
[22:40] <DarkriftX> DaSkreech: done
[22:41] <administrator_> the idea to reinstall adept crossed my mind, but i cant seem to install anything since the repos are out of date, creating a kind of chicken and egg problem
[22:41] <DaSkreech> administrator_: The issue is beneath Adept
[22:42] <DaSkreech> What happened before this
[22:42] <DaSkreech> DarkriftX: pull the svn or latest tarball of mencoder
[22:42] <administrator_> DaSkreech: absolutely nothing.  three people were using ltsp as restricted users
[22:43] <ubuntu_> howdy.  how can i get the UUID of a drive?
[22:43] <administrator_> ...  for a few weeks...  before that everything was fine..  seems the repos becoming outdated triggered this
[22:43] <ubuntu_> (i'm trying to set up FSTAB)
[22:43] <DaSkreech> administrator_: When did it start?
[22:43] <DaSkreech> !uuid
[22:44] <DaSkreech> administrator_: What release is this? Hardy?
[22:44] <ubuntu_> thanks DaSkreech
[22:45] <administrator_> DaSkreech: yeah..  hardy is 8.04 right?
[22:45] <DaSkreech> Yes
[22:46] <DaSkreech> well the repos are not outdated then it seems that your hard drive has forgotten the GPG signature of the repos
[22:46] <DaSkreech> which could mean a few things
[22:46] <DaSkreech> but lets do some tests first
[22:46] <administrator_> DaSkreech: sure
[22:46] <DaSkreech>  run sudo apt-get update with adept close and pastbin the poutput
[22:46] <DaSkreech>  !paste
[22:47] <administrator_> DaSkreech: you fixed it somehow...  i guess the 11th time was a charm
[22:47] <administrator_> i tride an apt-get upgrade adept right before that (pulled out of my butt), maybe that fixed it somehow
[22:47] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[22:48] <Danu> Hello i have a weird problem when i Try to search something in Google with Konqueror it doesn't open, just says : document html and ask me to save it or open with another browser :S
[22:48] <ubuntu_> ok, next question... i'm editing menu.lst and i see the following for my main entry:  http://pastebin.ca/1301244
[22:48] <ubuntu_> i don't remember there being a line for uuid before.... is that my problem?
[22:49] <dr_willis> the newest grub stuff can use UUID.
[22:51] <dr_willis> mine does look different.. but its from a upgrade, not clean install
[22:51] <dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/f60556362
[22:51] <Danu> it's really strange :S what happen why doesn't open?
[22:54] <administrator_> DaSkreech: thanks, gotta run
[22:56] <Danu> And by the way, Mr. JontheEchidna Thank you so much, i finally solved the problem upgrading to KDE 4.2
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Whooo KDE 4.2
[22:56] <JontheEchidna> Danu: great :)
[22:57] <Danu> please anyone knows about this Konqueror stuff?
[22:57] <DaSkreech> Which stuff?
[22:57] <Danu> ok here i go again :  i have a weird problem when i Try to search something in Google with Konqueror it doesn't open, just says : document html and ask me to save it or open with another browser :S
[22:59] <dr_willis> search something in Google with Konqueror  -> meaning you go to google.com and type in a seradh item?
[23:00] <DaSkreech> Danu: gg: searchterms does that ?
[23:04] <Dario_Andres> hi: do anyone knows if there are debug symbol packages for KDE 4.1.85 for Kubuntu PPA repo ?
[23:05] <michi> does anybody here know, which driver i need for my gforce 4 mx 440?
[23:05] <Danu> Mr. DaSkreech yes
[23:05] <stdin> Dario_Andres: yes, the packages end in -dbg (eg: kdelibs5-dbg)
[23:06] <DaSkreech> Dario_Andres: There should be just append -dbg to whatever package you want it for
[23:06] <DaSkreech> michi: nv should work
[23:07] <Dario_Andres> there aren't for me , just for an user asking for them in the KDE bugtracker :) ... he needs the kopete debug symbols.. are they build? is kdenetwork-dbg or kopete-dbg ?
[23:07] <Dario_Andres> thanks in advice
[23:07] <michi> how can i install it? the hardware manager does not work. no activation of the nv driver
[23:09] <DaSkreech> kopete-dbg
[23:09] <Dario_Andres> he said something like: Kubuntu 8.10 updated via PPA.
[23:09] <Dario_Andres> The dbgsym package is only for KDE4.1.2
[23:09] <Dario_Andres> maybe he doesn't have the proper repo activated...
[23:10] <genii> Danu: In Konq if you go to Settings...   Does Save View Profile       say "Web Browsing" or instead, "File Management"         ?
[23:10] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: that's correct isn't it? 4.2 packages should all have a dbg package ?
[23:10] <JontheEchidna> it's per-module
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> kdenetwork-dbg
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> etc
[23:12] <Dario_Andres> JontheEchidna: thankyou very much :)
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> Dario_Andres: You're welcome
[23:12] <Dario_Andres> :)
[23:12] <Danu> Mr. genii what?
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> Dario_Andres: Oh, I've seen you at b.k.o
[23:13] <DaSkreech> Ah
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> keep up the good triaging work :)
[23:15] <genii> Danu: In Konqueror, When you click on where it says "Settings" across the top. The submenu opens. One of the items onthe submenu says either: Save View Profile "Web Browsing"  or else: Save View PRofile "File Management"               which one does it say?
[23:16] <Dario_Andres> JontheEchidna: oh, thanks, we are at report-cleaning frenzy there :P
[23:16]  * DaSkreech hugs Dario_Andres
[23:16] <Dario_Andres> why so much love? :D
[23:17] <IceBall> Quick question, when i try to load the live cd, it goes through the loading bar, then it goes to a black screen that prints out I/O buffer error, and gives sector numbers over and over again?
[23:17] <DaSkreech> Dario_Andres: Entomophobia ?
[23:17] <DaSkreech> IceBall:
[23:17] <Danu> Mr. genii Web Browsing
[23:17] <DaSkreech> your Cd is either screwed or your Cd Driver doesn't like the kernel
[23:18] <IceBall> hmm, if i run the cd test will it tell me?
[23:18] <michi> which nv driver do i need for my 3d support? nvidia-glx-96,  nvidia-glx-71,  nvidia-glx-177, or  nvidia-glx-173?
[23:18] <Dario_Andres> DaSkreech: I had to look at the translator and then the dictionary to enjoy your comment T_T ... thanks :D
[23:19] <DaSkreech> Dario_Andres: We don't like bugs :)
[23:19] <DaSkreech> IceBall: Something like that :)
[23:19] <IceBall> DaSkreech ok ty
[23:19] <DaSkreech> michi: 173 i think
[23:20] <michi> 137 for gforce 4 mx 440?
[23:20] <Danu> Mr. genii it says Web Browsing
[23:20] <genii> Danu: OK, thanks
[23:21] <Danu> this is so weird!
[23:21] <DaSkreech> Danu: Shift button not stuck?
[23:22] <Danu> :S
[23:24] <Szadek> Kubuntu experimental repo doesnt update so long time ... its only beeing updated on beta3 possibly ? neon project may be too unstable for my taste ............
[23:24] <DaSkreech> michi: Sounds more reasonable
[23:25] <genii> Danu: Perhaps try the steps outlined in post number 4 of here: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=10709
[23:25] <DaSkreech> Szadek: Neon or the beta reo ?
[23:25] <Szadek> the beta ! neon is maybe ( i dont have feedback from who uses ) unstable .
[23:26] <DaSkreech> Szadek: new one ships this week you will have an update very shortly
[23:27] <Danu> i'll be right back
[23:27] <Szadek> ohh kool then =) .I like to see how it is going the progress ... but i dont want my desktop to be crashing every single action i do , thats why i dont use neon packages .
[23:27] <Szadek> thanks DaSkreech
[23:27] <Szadek> for the info =)
[23:27] <DaSkreech> Szadek: ha ha you know that they have been in bugfix mode for a while right?
[23:27] <Szadek> rihgt
[23:27] <Szadek> right*
[23:27] <DaSkreech> So if anything neon should be more stable
[23:28] <Szadek> i like to see that progress ... not talking about new stuff =)
[23:28] <Szadek> maybe
[23:28] <Szadek> or maybe not i just dont know
[23:28] <Szadek> like i said i have no feedback from the people using neon
[23:30] <DaSkreech> In any case you should have RC within a week
[23:30] <DaSkreech> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule
[23:30] <DaSkreech> Then two weeks later Final
[23:30] <DaSkreech> Followed each month by more bugfixes
[23:30] <DaSkreech> Really at that point you'd want to jump off neon as they are now in break stuff like crazy mode :)
[23:38] <jennifer> hey folks
[23:39] <jennifer> i have a bit of a problem acessing a certain website which up until three days ago I never had an issue with
[23:39] <faileas> DaSkreech: i assume you just remove the repos and update to 'jump off'? ;p
[23:39] <faileas> and wait for the official ones to catch up?
[23:39] <jennifer> i've tried everything from pinging it to re installing Firefox yet nothing seems to work
[23:39] <DaSkreech> Which site?
[23:40] <dr_willis> could be a site/server issue ?
[23:40] <DaSkreech> faileas: Yeah shut them off like a day or so before
[23:40] <DaSkreech> Well before the tag
[23:40] <DaSkreech> The final package would be a higher build number than yours so you update to final
[23:41] <jennifer> fringe-forum.com
[23:41] <DaSkreech> works here
[23:41] <jennifer> i haven't been banned or anything from that site
[23:42] <DaSkreech> what do you see when you go there?
[23:42] <jennifer> it never loads; i type in the address and the page never loads
[23:42] <jennifer> so i go to another browser, same thing
[23:43] <jennifer> sometimes i able to get onto the site but when i go to log in; it takes me to the 'Thanks for logging in' screen and is suppose to redirect me. Even when I click the button to do so; it never loads
[23:43] <DaSkreech> So it loads up?
[23:44] <DaSkreech> Dump your cookies I would guess
[23:44] <jennifer> i have tried that
[23:44] <jennifer> nothing works
[23:44] <jennifer> is there some command that i could use in Konsole to bypass this issue?
[23:46] <Adola> Kopete won't tell me I'm spelling words wrong anymore.  And, I know I still suck just as bad at it.
[23:46] <dr_willis> http://fringe-forum.com/forums/index.php
[23:46] <dr_willis> works here. under FF/windows vista at least :)
[23:47] <jennifer> i just have linux OS
[23:47] <jennifer> i havent changed anything to my comp and up to three days ago everything was fine.
[23:48] <DaSkreech> Adola: What version of KDe ?
[23:48] <DaSkreech> jennifer: Tried it in Konqui?
[23:48] <dirk_> does anyone else here have trouble using comcast for apt-get?
[23:48] <jennifer> yeah but the page doesnt load all the way
[23:48] <Adola> DaSkreech: 4.1
[23:49] <DaSkreech> Adola: 4.2 fixes that
[23:49] <DaSkreech> Erm? all the way?
[23:50] <jennifer> it gives me on the bottom of the page; fringe-forum.com contacted, waiting for reply
[23:50] <Adola> DaSkreech: It was working, just yesterday, I'm not sure what I may have done.  But, it doesn't "underline" words that aren't spelled right now.  Is there nothing I can do aside from upgrading?  (I'm on Dial-up, that's not so easy you know)
[23:50] <DaSkreech> jennifer: Works fine here
[23:51] <DaSkreech> try from konsole w3m http://fringe-forum.com/forums/index.php
[23:51] <jennifer> could i have a bug or something in Firefox
[23:51] <jennifer> how do i do that
[23:51] <DaSkreech> Adola: Oh I thought you meant it never did it there is a Spelling button you click to start it again
[23:51] <jennifer> konsole w3m
[23:51] <Adola> DaSkreech: Just figured it out thanks to someone in #kopete.  It was a simple rightclick.
[23:52] <DaSkreech> jennifer: in konsole type w3m fringe-forum.com
[23:52] <DaSkreech> Adola: Right that was it
[23:52] <Adola> Thank you!
[23:52] <jennifer> ok
[23:53] <jennifer> wow
[23:53] <jennifer> that works
[23:54] <jennifer> but i cant do anything
[23:55] <DaSkreech> jennifer: ok so it's not your computer IP that's messing it up
[23:55] <wesley> How can i check which gma driver i am using ?
[23:56] <jennifer> what is this page i am looking at?
[23:57] <DaSkreech> jennifer: It's the forum
[23:58] <DaSkreech> It's a terminal based web browser I use it when i need to browse through something fast
[23:58] <DaSkreech> i.e. Without loading flash java or images
[23:58] <jennifer> well i would like to do it the old way so how can i fix it?
[23:59] <jennifer> get a new web browser?