[00:57] <DanaG> argh, for some reason, my rfkill actually kills the wifi card, so I have to reload the iwlagn module to get it back.
[01:28] <DanaG> Intel wireless best for Linux?  Not in my experience.  =(
[02:00] <unavailable> I commend you guys...  coming up for fixes for dang near everything
[02:56] <unavailable> anyone have any idea why my nvidia drivers are gone ??
[02:56] <andersk> Probably bug 308410.
[03:00] <unavailable> so any fix yet?
[03:00] <unavailable> that seems to go to a waiting list
[03:00] <andersk> nvidia has not yet updated their drivers to be compatible with the new Xorg.
[03:01] <andersk> You are welcome to try the 180.18 beta drivers from my PPA: http://launchpad.net/~anders-kaseorg/+archive
[03:01] <andersk> But you will still need to set Option "IgnoreABI" "True" in the "ServerFlags" section of xorg.conf.
[03:09] <woody86> can anyone help me out? When I try to upgrade to jaunty using 'upgrade-manager -d' it won't find the jaunty repos??
[03:11] <woody86> 'update-manager -d' **
[03:12] <unavailable> woody if you have nvidia, and wish to have things work right, you may want to wait.
[03:13] <woody86> well I don't have nvidia :)
[03:14] <andersk> Check your /etc/apt/sources.list.  Perhaps you're set up to use a mirror that doesn't have jaunty?
[03:15] <woody86> that's what I thought, but I have it to the main U.S. Server, does that one have the jaunty mirror?
[03:15] <andersk> us.archive.ubuntu.com?  Yes, that should be fine.
[03:17] <woody86> yup, let me set it again and try it out
[03:20] <woody86> this is what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/100765/
[03:21] <unavailable> allright, I rebooted after install... then enabled drivers, do i need to restart the x session again??
[03:22] <andersk> unavailable: is X running or not?
[03:22] <unavailable> yes
[03:22] <unavailable> well, i can see the desktop...
[03:23] <unavailable> but do I need to REstart the session?? as in close it then openit again (restart ubuntu again?)
[03:23] <andersk> If it's working, I don't see why you would need to.
[03:23] <unavailable> i cannot enable effects
[03:24] <andersk> Well, in that case, it's worth a try.
[03:24] <unavailable> is that broken with this build?
[03:24] <andersk> I'm using 180.18 with Compiz, so it should be fine assuming the 180 drivers support your hardware.
[03:25] <andersk> woody86: try commenting out the lines in sources.list that reference jaunty-security and jaunty-updates.  Those don't exist yet.
[03:25] <woody86> andersk-  well thanks :) that seems easy enough
[03:26] <woody86> any idea when they will be enabled?
[03:26] <andersk> After the jaunty release.
[03:26] <woody86> ah, gotcha :)
[03:26] <andersk> Wait, I also see references to "partner" in your log.  That's more likely to be the problem.
[03:27] <woody86> what's that? disable 'partners' too?
[03:30] <woody86> ok, well it's working so far, we'll see if it runs into any other problems
[03:30] <andersk> Sure.  You can try re-enabling those repositories after the upgrade if you need them.
[03:31] <woody86> the 'partner' ones are still enabled right now, but I disabled 'security' and 'updates' and it's working fine now
[03:32] <woody86> *knock on wood*
[03:32] <unavailable> ok.
[03:32] <unavailable> that broke x
[03:33] <unavailable> i rebooted to a tty
[03:34] <andersk> Any useful debugging information will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[03:52] <unavailable> it says that X11 does not exist
[03:54] <andersk> That's an odd error.  Is there more context?
[04:26] <woody86> well, everything seems to be working fine so far :)
[04:28] <woody86> before my comp restarted, it said to run /sbin/lilo but it says "Fatal: Cannot open: /etc/lilo.conf"
[07:40] <naught101> anyone know how I can see what partitions exist on my system without fdisk -l?
[08:36] <pwnguin> anyone else have a wierd problem where clicking on the bookmark menu in firefox opens the bookmark this page dialog?
[08:47] <lucent> I uh just re-covered my OS software recently from a Stupid Human Trick involving rm -fr and a space between '/' with the rest of the path
[08:48] <lucent> now running Jaunty Alpha 2 for the ext4 support in its given Kernel and also for grub2 that has LVM + ext4 support in the repo
[08:48] <lucent> what's still bothering me are the broken apps which do something with ipv6
[08:48] <lucent> now that ipv6 is built-in to the kernel I can't work around by blacklisting the ipv6 module - any tips or advice for me?
[08:53] <lucent> oh, also wondering how do I do an Alternate install from USB stick
[08:53] <lucent> and if a fix has been released yet for X.org
[08:54] <lucent> seems that X.org introduced a bug with firefox such that links trigger unpredictable cursor behavior
[08:56] <x1250> lucent, no fix for X and firefox yet. There's a post on ubuntuforums.org that discusses the ipv6 problem.
[08:57] <lucent> x1250: mind linking?  I've seen a few posts, none address the exact cause of why DNS takes so freaking long to resolve and which apps are broken or why
[08:58] <lucent> most are the tune of "well don't use it lol omg just recompile your kernel duh"
[08:58] <x1250> lucent, I you've read them, then you've read them... :)
[08:58] <lucent> ah
[08:59] <lucent> I'm excited for encrypted home directories to make an introduction
[09:00] <x1250> lucent, have you tried using the usb-creator with the alternate iso?
[09:00] <lucent> x1250: yes, I have and the installer boots but it can't find the cdrom, which is a fatal error
[09:01] <x1250> mmm, maybe you should file a bug report on that.
[09:01] <lucent> if I switch to a console and do some mount trickery, then I get a little further, but it dies because it can't figure out the release code name
[09:01] <lucent> oh
[09:01] <lucent> why? the image is a CD image, not a USB image
[09:02] <x1250> it can be whatever you want it to be, if you file a bug report.
[09:03] <lucent> hm.  I'd rather not pollute the bug tracker
[09:03] <x1250> well, your choice, but eventually someone will...
[09:04] <lucent> actually I'm hoping for a way to do an installation to a single LVM partition
[09:04] <lucent> to get my all-in-LVM setup I had to install the traditional way, then do my administration task from a livecd usb boot environment
[09:04] <lucent> it works though
[09:05] <lucent> x1250: what is the x.org / firefox bug anyways?
[09:06] <lucent> growing pains, or is it a regression
[09:07] <x1250> on the bug report someone said it was X's fault, and that a patch was available for the next release, but who knows... :)
[12:36] <rbrunhuber> I have jaunty with the nv driver on a thinkpad t61p with nvidia quadro fx 570m. And i have massive problems with kde4.2.
[12:37] <rbrunhuber> The run program and the kde start menu are no painted and a lot of pictures in firefox are not shown. can anyone confirm this?
[12:37] <BUGabundo_work> rbrunhuber: there is no suporte for proprieatry drivers currently on jaunty
[12:39] <rbrunhuber> BUGabundo_work: I know that is why I'm using the "nv" and not the "nvidia" driver.
[12:39] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[12:39] <BUGabundo_work> miss read
[12:40] <rbrunhuber> BUGabundo_work: That is also the problem with my google queries. Google seems to treat the two terms like synonyms
[12:41] <BUGabundo_work> yeah
[13:05] <Hew> pwnguin: bug 187313
[14:16] <k4_> is this the dev channel for ubuntu ?
[14:22] <BUGabundo_work> k4_: yes
[14:23] <k4_> my atheros card does not work anymore with 9.04 , is this the right place ?
[14:23] <k4_> the ath9k driver does not support it, and 2.6.28 does not have the ath5k driver anymore
[16:13] <jnubuntu> when i try to update ubuntu, it asks me to REMOVE upstart, ubuntu-minamil, startup-tasks, system-services.
[16:13] <jnubuntu> and asks me to install sysvinit
[16:14] <BUGabundo_work> jnubuntu: don't FORCE the upgrade!
[16:15] <BUGabundo_work> use update-manager to upgrade safely
[16:15] <BUGabundo_work> and don't do parcial updates!!!
[16:17] <mvo> jnubuntu: with what tool do you get this?
[16:17] <jnubuntu> synaptic
[16:17] <mvo> jnubuntu: jaunty? or intrepid? or intrepid->jaunty?
[16:17] <jnubuntu> jaunty
[16:18] <BUGabundo_work> I think its Xorg mess!
[16:24] <jnubuntu> apt-get upgrade doesn't try to remove those or install sysvinit
[17:00] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[17:00] <Cpudan80> I am currently working on Interpid -- but I need to download the source for wpa_supplicant for JJ
[17:00] <Cpudan80> how can I do that...?
[18:28] <unavailable> allright, yesterday... i noted that the xorg broke my nvidia, and someone here directed me to a beta nvidia.
[18:28] <unavailable> well.
[18:28] <unavailable> that broke x
[18:29] <unavailable> totally,   startx  results in an invalid path error
[18:38] <CarlFK> unavailable: pretty sure x/nvid needs an update from nvid
[18:39] <unavailable> yes but how do I update from cli without x??
[18:39] <CarlFK> i have a gf2, needs v96.  I was told downgrade x or wait for nv to release a new binary
[18:39] <CarlFK> unavailable: my guess: apt-get install xorg
[18:39] <unavailable> no net connection
[18:39] <CarlFK> I think that will un install the conflicting nvidia package
[18:39] <unavailable> even though the cable is in
[18:40] <CarlFK> ifup eth0
[18:40] <CarlFK> more guessing, but this is the stuff I would try...
[18:40] <unavailable> i think i'm just gonna drop back down to intrepid for a while...
[18:41] <unavailable> there's nothing too important on that install anyway.
[18:41] <CarlFK> do you know if the nv driver will let me switch to the svid port?
[18:41] <CarlFK> don't need both ports, just the svid is fine
[19:39] <x1250> Cpudan80, you need to add the jaunty "main" repository to /etc/apt/sources.list, then: apt-get update && apt-get -t jaunty source wpasupplicant. But if you really don't need the source and just the deb package (binary), then do a: apt-get -t jaunty install wpasupplicant
[19:41] <x1250> Cpudan80, you may need to add other jaunty repositories, depending on wpasupplicant dependencies, and where are they (in what repo)
[19:43] <x1250> oh, I missed sudo.
[19:43] <Cpudan80> heh
[19:43] <Cpudan80> I figured that much
[19:43] <Cpudan80> But that sounds dangerous
[19:43] <Cpudan80> as I am on an Intrepid install and dont want to break it
[19:45] <x1250> well, its the safest way of getting a jaunty deb package... :)
[19:53] <x1250> Cpudan80, note that doing all of that will not upgrade your box to jaunty. To get a package from jaunty you need to use the "-t jaunty" part, so it is pretty safe. It will only get wpasupplicant and its dependencies.
[20:10] <karlp> hi
[20:10] <karlp> i can't get flash to work
[20:11] <karlp> i do aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree and i get this
[20:11] <karlp> download or license refused
[20:11] <karlp> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[20:12] <x1250> karlp, what version of flashplugin-nonfree ? apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[20:13] <karlp> hmm, aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree and aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree seemed to install it
[20:13] <karlp> i'll see if firefox works with any flash sites (i.e. youtube) again
[20:13] <karlp> it's the latest one. 10.0.15.3 ubuntu3 or something
[20:14] <karlp> nvm works now
[20:14] <karlp> anyway, i don't get why ubuntu does these releases. i always have breakage with every update, so i just try (in spite of all warnings contrary) to use the latest
[20:15] <lucent> karlp: I would do dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[20:15] <karlp> i used to stick with the 6 month releases but i got burned by dapper -> edgy, then again from edgy -> feisty (to a lesser degree). feisty -> hardy was a lot better, but i was hoping for kde 4.1 so i went with hardy -> intrepid almost immediately
[20:15] <Pici> karlp: If you are using Jaunty (Which is what this channel is for) then you should be expecting breakage.
[20:15] <karlp> intrepid -> jaunty at least looks a lot nicer
[20:15] <lucent> karlp: or apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree; apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[20:16] <lucent> looks nicer?
[20:16] <lucent> it looks the same
[20:16] <karlp> er, kde at least. i don't use gnome
[20:16] <karlp> anyway problem resolved, back to work