[00:09] <vorlon> hi, does anyone here have experience with IR blasters?
[00:10] <vorlon> I just picked one up from irblaster.info, and am unable to verify that it's functional at all
[00:11] <d0netsFN> high
[00:11] <d0netsFN> im really newb
[00:11] <d0netsFN> but i might be able to help
[00:12] <vorlon> do you have experience with IR blasters?
[00:12] <d0netsFN> i just got mythtv working on my ubuntu8.10 install with mceusb pvr 150 kit
[00:12] <d0netsFN> yea
[00:12] <d0netsFN> i just got mine working yesterday
[00:12] <d0netsFN> but now im formatting again
[00:12] <d0netsFN> and installing mythbuntu instead
[00:12] <vorlon> hmm, but with mceusb, which I believe uses a different lirc driver
[00:12] <d0netsFN> im not sure
[00:12] <d0netsFN> you might know more than I
[00:13] <vorlon> where did you find an mceusb?  The links I found in the howtos for those all dead-ended for me :)
[00:13] <d0netsFN> try froogle.com
[00:13] <vorlon> hmm, k
[00:13] <d0netsFN> is that what you mean?
[00:13] <abongile__> I need help getting the windows mce remote working with mythbuntu, irw responds correctly to all the buttons on the remote but does not work within mythbuntu, please help!
[00:13] <vorlon> I guess so
[00:13] <d0netsFN> like you want the actual product
[00:13] <d0netsFN> or a tutorial
[00:14] <d0netsFN> my gf found the pvr150 on ebay for about 70 bucks
[00:14] <d0netsFN> it was the mce kit
[00:14] <vorlon> d0netsFN: I'm interested in the mceusb product, in the event that this serial blaster doesn't work out
[00:14] <d0netsFN> oh you bought a serial blaster?
[00:14] <d0netsFN> i dont know much about that
[00:16] <vorlon> ah; if mceusb runs $70, that's a much higher price point, and probably overkill anyway since I only need the blasting support :)
[00:16] <d0netsFN> no thats with a card though
[00:16] <d0netsFN> it was a mce kit
[00:16] <vorlon> ok
[00:16] <d0netsFN> pvr150 pci tv tuner
[00:17] <d0netsFN> the remote
[00:17] <d0netsFN> the ir receiver , and the ir blaster
[00:17]  * vorlon nods
[01:12] <Nixon> does the dvd rip function in mythtv work or is pretty much useless?
[01:13] <Nixon> I keep getting no job or nothing left to do when it hits what appears to be intentional defects in dvd's
[01:15] <Nixon> compuvest have pvr150's for 49 bucks
[01:15] <Nixon> btw,  just commenting on the previous conversation
[01:15] <Nixon> correct me if I'm wrong here but wouldn't a hvr 1600 be a much better choice then a pvr150?
[01:15] <Nixon> they are the same price at that 70 buck point
[01:15] <vorlon> I'm not looking for a pvr at all
[01:16] <vorlon> only an IR blaster
[01:16] <Nixon> but anywho,  back to my question about ripping
[01:16] <Nixon> is it something that's just left over from the old days or can it still be used
[01:17] <Nixon> I haven't set up a remote yet, I'm building still, partially running 1 input card,  I'm going to try a wiimote I think
[01:19] <Nixon> why not just get a serial blaster?
[01:19] <Nixon> are they no good?
[01:19] <Nixon> seems like I've seen them advertised for like 25 bucks
[01:22] <Nixon> I think from reading back there vorlon, and I am by no means much more than a newbie, but you would need to look through "dmesg" maybe "lspci" and there are a few others including logfiles on your system and try to identify if the hardware has been recognised
[01:26] <vorlon> er, I do have a serial blaster
[01:26] <vorlon> which means it's not going to show up under lspci :)
[01:27] <Nixon> Anyone know if the dvd rip function of mythtv is still a useable feature? or should I be trying to look elsewhere for dvd rip functionality
[01:27] <Nixon> what about dmesg
[01:27] <vorlon> likewise.
[01:27] <vorlon> it's dumb hardware; dmesg isn't going to see it
[01:27] <vorlon> all dmesg shows is whether the modules are loaded correctly and being used
[01:28] <Nixon> well, then with my knowledge, you are left to build a receiver decoder to see what ir is in the air heh
[01:28] <Nixon> again I'm a newbie eh
[01:28] <Nixon> :)
[01:28] <Nixon> short of replacing the ir diode with a visible light onw
[01:29] <Nixon> I'll back off of this conversation tho as this is one of my next steps is to set that up
[01:35] <d0netsFN> nixon
[01:35] <d0netsFN> is that 49 bucks for the mce kit?
[01:37] <Nixon> no I think it's just a card and driver disk
[01:37] <Nixon> still those are obsolete items that are out of production
[01:37] <Nixon> that's why I was asking about the hvr 1600
[01:37] <rhpot1991> Nixon: if discs do bad blocks are copy protection then the mythtv ripper fails
[01:37] <rhpot1991> install gddrescue and use that
[01:38] <rhpot1991> ddrescue /dev/dvd <iso file> <log file>
[01:38] <Nixon> seems like all disks are using bad sector protections these days, I tried gddrescue on 2 disks but the result was mixed and not playable everywhere, although vlc handled the iso
[01:38] <Nixon> so multipass is better?
[01:39] <rhpot1991> really, I've never hit a disc that hasn't worked with that
[01:39] <Nixon> do you then transcode it?
[01:39] <Nixon> maybe that's the diff, as I didn't do the logfile bit and only ran the one pass
[01:39] <rhpot1991> actually I lie, I hit one but it was an old concert video one so I assumed they just didn't follow specs or something
[01:40] <rhpot1991> no, I use isos
[01:40] <rhpot1991> the logfile isn't needed
[01:40] <rhpot1991> but it lets you resume
[01:40] <Nixon> your iso's will play with mythtv's internal player?
[01:40] <rhpot1991> no reason not to use it and just delete it once you are done
[01:40] <rhpot1991> you can ctrl+C to kill it when its choking on nothing but bad bits as well
[01:40] <rhpot1991> normally will have all the good data then and will be playable
[01:40] <rhpot1991> yep
[01:41] <rhpot1991> some have menu issues
[01:41] <rhpot1991> but I can normally work around them
[01:41] <Nixon> cool,  I'll give it another shot
[01:41] <rhpot1991> !xine | Nixon
[01:41] <Zinn> Nixon: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine
[01:41] <rhpot1991> try that as well
[01:41] <Nixon> yeah my gdd'd iso's will play on vlc,  but not the internal... nor will they transcode on down
[01:41] <Nixon> I'll give that a whirl with your command line
[01:42] <rhpot1991> Nixon: try other discs, you could have a badly damaged one or just one with real bad protection
[01:42] <Nixon> ohh yeah one of them is serious protection.. well both I think
[01:42] <Nixon> :)
[01:42] <rhpot1991> actually I lied again, I had one I had to use some windows ripper on after ddrescue failed a few times
[01:42] <rhpot1991> vantage point
[01:42] <Nixon> I wanted to try the hard ones
[01:43] <rhpot1991> but I normally have very very good luck with gddrescue
[01:43] <Nixon> there's got to be ways around it,  without having to pay for anydvd
[01:43] <rhpot1991> there was some free ripper that worked there, windows only though
[01:43] <Nixon> maybe referring to dvdshrink?
[01:43] <rhpot1991> I had to rip all the vob's then patch them then use dvdshrink to put them back together
[01:44] <rhpot1991> google the name of the dvd and add "rip" or "ripping" or something, if its a problem disc you should be able to find people discussing it
[01:44] <Nixon> yeah I don't mind multipart ripping, I just haven't found the way to do it
[01:45] <Nixon> thank you for the info I'll grab a 3rd older disk and try your command line
[01:45] <rhpot1991> if they are old they may do something silly like not follow certain standards which may give some players a fit
[01:45] <rhpot1991> in that case, try xine
[01:47] <Nixon> latest harry potter won't even hardly play in my component dvd player the protection is so intense, well it won't play through the menu, you got to trick it
[01:47] <Nixon> there getting bad
[01:49] <rhpot1991> Nixon: its sad when the protection gets so obtrusive that a straight dvd player can't even play it
[01:50] <dan2> hey guys
[01:50] <dan2> I'm wondering if I could get a bit of help with this
[01:51] <dan2> on my haupagge tuner hvb950q, it seems to load driver right, and I installed the firmware in /lib/firmware
[01:51] <dan2> but
[01:51] <dan2> I get errors like this
[01:51] <dan2> http://rafb.net/p/395Geh18.html
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> dan2, looks like it didn't like your firmware
[01:54] <dan2> k
[01:54] <dan2> so what do I need to do
[01:54] <dan2> it's hvr950q
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> dan2, did you follow a guide or something?
[01:55] <dan2> ya...
[01:55] <dan2> it may have been for the regular 950
[01:55] <dan2> instead of the q
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> I have a regular 950, and have a guide for 8.10
[01:57] <dan2> ok
[01:57] <dan2> nevermind, I think I got it
[01:57] <dan2> thanks anyway
[01:59] <vorlon> Nixon: right, well, part of the point of trying to use irblaster.info as a vendor was to avoid having to mess around with soldering anything, so I'm not keen on that option :-)
[01:59] <tyce> is there a good support page for loading the air2pc firmware under mythbuntu 8.10?
[02:02] <dan2> tgm4883_laptop, so it's taking the firmware now, but it's not tuning into any of the channels
[02:02] <dan2> I know it's working
[02:02] <dan2> I yanked the antenna cable from my tv
[02:02] <dan2> (inputs)
[02:05] <d0netsFN> if i install mythbuntu
[02:05] <d0netsFN> then ubuntu desktop
[02:06] <d0netsFN> should i see applications, places, and system at the top?
[02:06] <d0netsFN> like ubuntu
[02:25] <superm1> abongile__, i was saying ~/.lirc
[02:25] <superm1> look closely at what i typed
[02:32] <d0netsFN> how do i get mythbuntu to look just like my ubuntu
[02:32] <d0netsFN> al i see is the applications menu
[02:33] <tgm4883_laptop> d0netsFN, boot up into gnome?
[02:34] <d0netsFN> explain
[02:35] <tgm4883_laptop> d0netsFN, on the login screen, click on sessions and then click on gnome
[02:37] <dan2> hey guys
[02:38] <dan2> if I have another ubuntu machine, how do I connect it with my new mythbuntu box to view the content locally
[02:39] <superm1> dan2, install mythtv on that other box
[02:40] <d0netsFN> thanks tgm4883_laptop
[02:41] <tgm4883_laptop> d0netsFN, np
[02:45] <d0netsFN> hrmm for some reason i cant get avant to work
[02:45] <d0netsFN> i click it from the applications/accessories menu but i get nada
[02:47] <d0netsFN> oh
[02:48] <d0netsFN> i don think i have compiz enabled yet
[02:54] <dan2> hmm
[02:54] <dan2> superm1, which package?
[02:54] <superm1> dan2, "mythtv-frontend"
[02:54] <dan2> I did that
[02:54] <dan2> sorry
[02:54] <dan2> I can't seem to connect to the other server
[02:54] <dan2> from this box
[02:54] <dan2> I checked the db passwords
[02:54] <dan2> that's good
[02:55] <dan2> I think it's trying to connect to localhost instead of the backend
[02:56] <dan2> where do I set Master Server settings?
[02:56] <superm1> mythtv-setup
[02:56] <superm1> on your backend comp
[02:58] <dan2> k
[02:58] <dan2> so what do I need to do in particular in there?
[02:58] <d0netsFN> hey i went to hardware drivers and installed the latest (recommended) driver
[02:58] <d0netsFN> and rebooted
[02:58] <superm1> dan2, the general page
[02:58] <superm1> change the two ip address boxes to be the ip address of your backend
[02:58] <d0netsFN> but when i go to system/preferences/appearance/visual effects , the options are greyed out (i cant enable compiz)
[02:59] <dan2> k
[03:00] <d0netsFN> any ideas?
[03:00] <dan2> sweet
[03:00] <dan2> thanks
[03:01] <d0netsFN> hrmm is it not included with mythbuntu?
[03:01] <superm1> d0netsFN, nvidia or amd?
[03:01] <d0netsFN> ok i did sudo apt-get install compiz-wrapper
[03:01] <d0netsFN> nvidia
[03:01] <d0netsFN> now the visual effects options arent greyed out
[03:02] <superm1> ah okay
[03:02] <d0netsFN> but i get "desktop effects could not be enabled" when i select extra
[03:02] <superm1> run nvidia-settings tool from the menus
[03:02] <superm1> and see if it shows any problems
[03:05] <d0netsFN> what am i looking for
[03:05] <dan2> man this is awesome
[03:12] <d0netsFN> woohoo
[03:12] <d0netsFN> progress
[03:12] <d0netsFN> now if i could just get "watch tv" to work
[03:12] <d0netsFN> should it work with just going through the mythtv-setup stuff?
[03:12] <d0netsFN> or do i have to do the database stuff like i did with ubuntu + mythtv
[03:12] <superm1> d0netsFN, you have to do mythtv-setup stuff
[03:12] <superm1> and then it will start working
[03:12] <d0netsFN> i did that
[03:12] <d0netsFN> no working
[03:14] <superm1> d0netsFN, you have to go through "all" sections
[03:14] <superm1> including general from start to end
[03:14] <d0netsFN> i did
[03:14] <d0netsFN> this kinda sucks ,you have to install a bunch of stuff that should already be installed (pidgin, gnome-mount, etc...)
[03:16] <rhpot1991> d0netsFN: most people dedicate boxes to running mythtv, so they don't want all that fluff
[03:24] <dan2> ok... so this remote control.  any chance it works with this tuner on linux? Hauppage WinTV 950Q
[03:28] <d0netsFN> i just went through steps 1-6 again
[03:30] <superm1> dan2, well i know that tuner works in linux, that remote, that's probably a stretch
[03:31] <d0netsFN> so superm i dont have to do anything with creating a database with mythbuntu?
[03:31] <d0netsFN> when i had ubuntu and installed myth sep. i had to create a database and such
[03:38] <dan2> superm1, tuner works nice
[03:38] <dan2> seems to work better than the tuner in my samsung
[03:41] <abongile__> somebody help: whatis lircd.conf.mceusb? nano opens a blank/new file, whatis returns: nothing appopriate. I am newbie trying to get the mce remote working with mythbuntu.
[03:41] <dan2> alright... so...
[03:41] <dan2> how do I get this to scan my existing video collection in
[03:42] <d0netsFN> ok hey
[03:42] <d0netsFN> watchtv is progress
[03:43] <d0netsFN> i get blank screen with static noise
[03:43] <d0netsFN> so i think its on the wrong channel
[03:43] <d0netsFN> how do i change the channel on the tuner
[04:00] <vorlon> superm1: do you have any experience with serial IR blasters?
[04:01] <d0netsFN> how do i change the channel with ivtv
[04:02] <vorlon> d0netsFN: manually? ivtv-tune
[04:03] <superm1> vorlon, yes I do.  mixed experiences due to some very difficult to discern hardware bugs, but yes some experiences
[04:03] <superm1> vorlon, what's happening?
[04:03] <vorlon> superm1: a difficult to discern hardware bug, I believe ;)
[04:03] <d0netsFN> varlon
[04:03] <d0netsFN> whats the syntax
[04:03] <d0netsFN> ivtv-tune -c 3?
[04:04] <d0netsFN> nevermind i think the channel is right
[04:04] <d0netsFN> but its all black
[04:04] <d0netsFN> why
[04:04] <superm1> vorlon, so the best thing to simplify finding the problem is to take out other parts in the chain with lirc (eg dont chain lirc instances and configure a remote and blaster until you get the blaster working properly)
[04:04] <vorlon> superm1: I think the IR blaster I got is DOA; followed all the howtos, tested it on two different computers, everything looks good per dmesg, no sign that I'm getting IR; including testing with a digital camera whose CCD is sensitive to IR from remotes
[04:05] <vorlon> d0netsFN: mm, could be a lot of reasons why it's black; but ivtv-tune -c 3 is correct syntax, yes - you may have to specify a frequency table as well, e.g., 'ivtv-tune -t us-cable -c 3'
[04:05] <d0netsFN> well im getting sound though
[04:05] <superm1> vorlon, are you sure that you are using the correct io port and irq for your serial port then?
[04:05] <d0netsFN> i can hear its on the history channel
[04:05] <d0netsFN> (what i have my drecttv stb set to)
[04:06] <superm1> and are you sure that it's been enabled in the bios (i know dumb question, but you have to ask it :))
[04:06] <vorlon> d0netsFN: may be an alpha channel issue; maybe something else
[04:06] <vorlon> superm1: yes.  I've tested on two systems, one of which I have a VGA console on and double-checked in the BIOS.
[04:07] <vorlon> on the other system where I don't have handy BIOS access, the UART shows up in dmesg at boot time and I know I've used the serial port in the past so it should still be good
[04:07] <superm1> vorlon, any method you have to test that the serial port itself hasn't been fried?  null modem cable between two boxes perhaps?
[04:07] <superm1> ah okay
[04:07] <vorlon> don't have a null modem cable handy, nor another box handy to plug it into
[04:08] <vorlon> having to move the boxes into the same room for testing would make me cross. :)
[04:08] <superm1> vorlon, then as a last resort, by chance have some spare low ohm resistors and LEDs sitting around?  you can always throw together a small test circuit
[04:09] <vorlon> superm1: haha no.  I went with irblaster.info to avoid having to do such things, falling into the "programmer with screwdriver" category. :-)
[04:09] <vorlon> superm1: let me bounce you an email, if you don't mind...
[04:10] <superm1> vorlon, ah.  yeah i actually have bought a blaster from them before too when i wanted one in a nice pretty case and all rather than the hack jobs i've done in the past
[04:10] <superm1> vorlon, sure
[04:11] <vorlon> superm1: forwarded
[04:11] <d0netsFN> hey what is the regular ubuntu vnc server?
[04:11] <d0netsFN> the one that is in system
[04:11] <d0netsFN> as (remote desktop)
[04:12] <vorlon> d0netsFN: vino
[04:14] <superm1> vorlon, one more possible thing is to turn on soft carrier support
[04:14] <superm1> vorlon, i've seen a weird mix of systems that need it and dont need it
[04:14] <vorlon> hmm, ok
[04:14] <vorlon> that's a lirc_serial option, right?
[04:15] <vorlon> (right)
[04:15] <superm1> yeah it's a boolean option
[04:15] <superm1> parm:           softcarrier:Software carrier (0 = off, 1 = on) (bool)
[04:16] <vorlon> alternatively, is there a good test case for testing the IR blaster using raw serial instead of lirc_serial, just to try to get it to light up?
[04:16] <vorlon> I'll play around with softcarrier and see if it makes a difference, thanks; but first I need to arrange dinner
[04:16] <hads> Hmm, Hardy and Intrepid seem to now have incompatible fixes versions.
[04:18] <superm1> vorlon, i'm sure that some hackery could be written up in pyserial if you'd so please, but at that point, you are almost better off grabbing a variable power supply and applying it directly to the pins of the blaster itself.
[04:18] <superm1> hads, on which mirror?
[04:18] <superm1> i theoretically just fixed mirroring on the us mirror
[04:18] <hads> superm1: nz.a.u.c - they are probably out of date, they always seem to be having trouble.
[04:19] <hads> I'll check another.
[04:19] <superm1> hads, oh you're not talking about the mythbuntu mythtv fixes repo, you mean the normal archive
[04:19] <hads> Yeah, normal
[04:20] <hads> I just noticed my frontend on this Intrepid desktop wants to upgrade the db
[04:20] <superm1> (mythbuntu weeklybuilds us mirror was broken for a while, and w/o access to it's SSH key I couldn't fix it until after holiday)
[04:20] <superm1> you sure you didn't accidentally add on a weeklybuilds repo on one of those machines?
[04:20] <hads> Nope, no weeklys
[04:20] <hads> But I just broke my diskless somehow so that's more of a priority now :)
[04:23] <vorlon> superm1: variable power supply... another item I don't have to hand. ;)
[04:24] <dan2> hey guys, so how come I don't see my video/media library other than recordings in mythfrontend
[04:24] <dan2> when connecting to the backend server
[04:26] <hads> superm1: According to packages.u.c hardy-backports has r18207 and intrepid has r18722
[04:36] <superm1> hads, yeah you can see more of that summarized here: launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv
[04:38] <hads> Neat thanks. I always get lost on LP
[04:38] <hads> You know you have a bad memory when a google finds your own fix for a problem.
[04:39] <superm1> that's gotta be exciting though :)
[04:39] <superm1> abongile__, did you do what i told you earlier about this?
[04:41] <abongile__> Please advise again, I thought I did and followed everything you said, please help me.
[04:41] <hads> I should probably update my master backend to Intrepid one day. Being different db versions isn't that convinient.
[04:41] <d0netsFN> http://pastebin.com/m1d4b9550
[04:41] <d0netsFN> any ideas why im getting black screen when i click watch tv
[04:41] <d0netsFN> (sound works though)
[04:41] <superm1> abongile__, i asked you to choose the mceusb remote in mythbuntu control centre and be sure to check the box to regenerate the remote button mappings
[04:42] <superm1> abongile__, after regenerating them, if buttons are still not working in your apps (but they worked in irw), then you'll have to manually modify the mappings in ~/.lirc
[04:42] <abongile__> superm1, yes I did that and its still not working in mythbuntu but irw recognises it fine as before, what do I do now?
[04:43] <superm1> abongile__, so which app is not recognizing keys, and which keys?
[04:43] <abongile__> would that be in the dev, etc, proc, local folders I have been all over looking for what you said.
[04:43] <abongile__> mythbuntu, but I have not checked it with Xine or VLC.
[04:44] <superm1> abongile__, so you mean the regular mythtv application?
[04:44] <superm1> abongile__, the main interface etc
[04:44] <abongile__> superm1, Only a few keys are recognised like stop which works as stop, back and exit.
[04:45] <abongile__> yes, the main interface
[04:45] <superm1> abongile__, okay so what keys aren't working?
[04:45] <superm1> (that you want working)
[04:46] <abongile__> superm1, back, info, mute, tv record, basically all the keys are not working as they should or at as expected.
[04:46] <superm1> abongile__, okay so what you'll want to do is quit mythtv and then run the "ircat" command on your mythtv lircrc file
[04:46] <superm1> ircat ~/.lirc/mythtv generally does the trick
[04:47] <superm1> it will show a blank prompt (similar to how irw worked) where you can press buttons
[04:47] <abongile__> ok, trying that now!
[04:47] <superm1> abongile__, so try pressing the buttons you know work and look at the output, then try the ones that dont work
[04:47] <d0netsFN> i rebooted and now i dont even get the black screen and audio anymore
[04:47] <d0netsFN> it just goes back to the menu
[04:47] <d0netsFN> oh wait
[04:47] <d0netsFN> i think its cause i dont have the storage partition mounted
[04:49] <abongile__> superm1, in which folder shall I find the right file ro run the ircat command on I see: lirc: /etc/lirc /usr/share/lirc
[04:50] <superm1> abongile__, the proper syntax would be this exact command:
[04:50] <superm1> ircat -c ~/.lirc/mythtv mythtv
[04:50] <superm1> meaning load config file ~/.lirc/mythtv
[04:50] <superm1> and check for buttons presses that match the mythtv application
[04:51] <superm1> you'll run it from your home directory (~)
[04:53] <abongile__> superm1, I get a usage message back
[04:53] <superm1> abongile__, then i might be off a little on the syntax ;)
[04:54] <superm1> try it like this:
[04:54] <superm1> ircat --config=/home/supermario/.lirc/mythtv mythtv
[04:54] <superm1> where supermario is your username
[04:58] <abongile__> superm1, that works like irw except it's not getting the keys right: stop = escape, ok=return, back a chapter=q, it doesn't look like it is recognising the remote correctly.
[04:59] <superm1> abongile__, then that means you need to add extra subsections for those missing keys to that config file
[05:01] <abongile__> does that mean i run irw and somehow copy the right key mapping and paste in the lirc.conf file in /home/../lirc/mythtv?
[05:04] <hads> Hmm, I don't think the versions are incompatible, something's going on with my remote frontends.
[05:04] <abongile__> superm1, I can't get to a lirc.conf file from within the lirc folder
[05:05] <superm1> abongile__, it's not a lirc.conf
[05:05] <superm1> its just /home/user/.lirc/mythtv
[05:06] <abongile__> superm1, but then where do I find where the correct buttons are stored and how I append them to /home/usr/.lirc/mythtv?
[05:07] <hads> OK, looks like it was bad config.xml files.
[05:10] <superm1> abongile__, open that file in a text editor
[05:10] <superm1> abongile__, and then look at the syntax
[05:10] <superm1> you can see more info by looking at 'man ircat' too
[05:12] <hads> Bah, I can't be bothered thinking about it anymore it's too hot. For some reason I suddenly needed extra permsissions that my mythtv mysql user didn't have.
[05:12] <hads> Using my personal user with full permissions lets the frontend startup.
[05:16] <abongile__> superm1, ok opened the file the buttons are there as responded to ircat, how do I get the right button mapping into this file? Should I back this one up, if yes how?
[05:17] <superm1> abongile__, so yes back up this file. copy it to another file.
[05:17] <superm1> abongile__, the missing button names should be found from irw
[05:17] <superm1> and the corresponding actions you do yourself.
[05:18] <superm1> tbh though, it's a little perplexing that anything is going wrong with a mceusb in the first place.  those things are so common (and *I* have one that works OOTB)
[05:18] <abongile__> superm1, I am as noob as one get's how do I back it up?
[05:18] <superm1> abongile__, what release of mythbuntu is this?
[05:18] <abongile__> 8.10 intrepid
[05:18] <superm1> hum
[05:19] <superm1> very odd...
[05:19] <rhpot1991> hads: if you delete the old config.xml and start a frontend, it should create a new (backup first!)
[05:19] <superm1> would you mind running "pastebinit ~/.lirc/mythtv"
[05:19] <vorlon> superm1: fwiw, no change with softcarrier=1 on my system with known-good serial port
[05:19] <superm1> i'm curious what got spit out for your file
[05:19] <superm1> vorlon, too bad :(
[05:19] <hads> rhpot1991: Yeah, they are safe to delete.
[05:20] <hads> rhpot1991: Even if it wasn't it's just connection info which you can put back again.
[05:20] <rhpot1991> hads: there is some unique ID in there as well, I never figured out where that came from
[05:20] <vorlon> superm1: no other guesses? :)
[05:20] <hads> Mine issue is something further than that though but I've worked around it now and will think about it later :)
[05:21] <abongile__> superm1, how so? I upgraded from an earlier releases, would that have an effect?
[05:21] <hads> It likely stems from me renumbering subnets here to implement VPN
[05:22] <superm1> vorlon, well there is a perplexing piece.  why are you using /dev/lirc1 instead of /dev/lirc0?  what's the other device you are loading as primary?
[05:22] <superm1> oh nvm, pvr350 w/ i2c probably
[05:23] <vorlon> superm1: that system has a receiver as lirc0
[05:23] <abongile__> superm1, I have the following for irw irw: /usr/bin/irw /usr/share/man/man1/irw.1.gz, which would contain the filr with the right button keys?
[05:23] <superm1> vorlon, on your debian system, can you try to specify the sending device (even though there is only one device on the system)
[05:24] <superm1> abongile__, i'm saying to run irw to get your key names that you needed
[05:25] <superm1> abongile__, i was asking you to pastebin your ~/.lirc/mythtv to see if there was anything in there indicating why it was so empty
[05:25] <superm1> by default on 8.10 it should be a lot more plentiful
[05:25] <abongile__> irw responds correctly but how do I get those mappings into the /'lirc/mythtv file?
[05:25] <superm1> you have to manually add sections
[05:25] <vorlon> superm1: "specify the sending device" in what sense?
[05:25] <superm1> if they're not getting automatically generated
[05:25] <superm1> vorlon, like you did in the first case, -d /dev/lircd etc
[05:25] <superm1> vorlon, i've seen some unexpected behavior otherwise
[05:26] <vorlon> superm1: you mean on the second Debian system, then?  I could test that; but kernel debugging definitely shows the activity
[05:26] <vorlon> (as does strace)
[05:27] <superm1> vorlon, oh if you are seeing activity via those then nvm.
[05:27] <superm1> vorlon, i think at this point you'll have to rely on getting a new blaster from irblaster.info folk then
[05:27]  * vorlon nods
[05:28] <vorlon> thanks for your time poking at it
[05:28] <superm1> no prob
[06:02] <vorlon> superm1: well, it's trivial to set DTR high with python-serial; to no effect.  guess I have to wait for the vendor. :)
[06:53] <d0netsFN> im getting this "Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/includes/objects/Program.php on line 291"
[06:53] <d0netsFN> when i click listings in mythweb
[07:38] <Shred00> i'm wondering why no -dbg packages on the weekly updates.  i have a segfault in libmyth (calling XvShmPutImage) and want to file it but having the stack trace print meaningful data for libmyth would be helpful I'm sure.
[09:08] <xukun> how all. is it possible to make a screenshot of only the network-manager icon?
[09:17] <d0netsFN> is there a terminal command for running a .jar
[09:51] <abongile_> hello all, I have been trying for a whilew to get my mce remote owrking with mythtv, I got help from superm1 but now I need to know how to gwt the correct button mapping from irw to the /`.lirc/mythtv file.
[10:00] <superm1> you have to manually add sections
[10:00] <superm1> you have to manually add sections
[10:01] <abongile_> I have been trying but don't seem to be getting it right.
[10:02] <superm1>  ,mooooooo
[10:05] <abongile_> super1, thank you for still being here: I can get right responses from irw and have copied all the info to /`'lirc.mythtv but does not work. I did not follow the syntax of the file for each button.  I tried it with record and remote stopped working.
[10:05] <abongile_> superm1, I removed my changes, saved the file and the remote is working as it was before.
[10:06] <abongile_> So how do I get the buttons which seem to be mapped well in irw into the /`.lirc/mythtv file.
[10:08] <abongile_> superm1, I tried to add a section for the record button, but the remote stopped working all together that is the buttons that were working before weren't anymore.  What do I need to know about addidng sections?
[11:07] <abongile_> what is the difference between the remote definifion in /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb and that in /`.lirc/mythtv? I am trying to get the correct button mappings so that the remote works wirh mythtv (all buttons to work subest of buttons working)?
[12:34] <superm1> abongile, one is a remote definition file, one is a remote bindings file
[12:34] <superm1> eg one tells you what buttons are available, and one tells you what those buttons should do
[12:34] <superm1> and it's not /.lirc/mythtv, it's ~/.lirc/mythtv or /home/user/.lirc/mythtv
[12:36] <abongile> superm1, I am still struggling with it, I even saw your post on ubuntu forums but I still have the problem.  My issue is I don't know how to add the sections as advised.
[12:38] <superm1> abongile, can you post your ~/.lirc/mythtv file to a pastebin and I can try to help explain it?
[12:38] <abongile> how do I get to pastebin?
[12:39] <superm1> that command i told you:
[12:39] <superm1> pastebinit /home/USER/.lirc/mythtv
[12:39] <superm1> it will send the file to a pastebin for you
[12:40] <abongile> I have it returns: http://pastebin.com/f480e198a
[12:47] <superm1> okay
[12:47] <abongile> superm1, in the second section I was trying to add sections as advused and was trying to see what would happen.  The mute button for example is recognised and confirmed on screen but the audio doesn't actually mute.
[12:47] <superm1> abongile, so it looks like you added the section between lines 13 and 19
[12:47] <superm1> so the way you did it is a little wrong
[12:48] <superm1> abongile, for starters, the Mute button is already defined below.  so is the more button
[12:48] <superm1> abongile, also each "section" only gets one button
[12:49] <superm1> so search the file for the other definition of the "more" button.  To make that a power button, you would just replace "button = More" with "button = Power" and what you want it mapped to
[12:49] <superm1> you don't actually put in those hexadecimal that you get from irw, just the "names" from irw
[12:51] <abongile> superm1, in irw names and hexidecimal numbers are given, do I just replace button names with those indicated in irw?
[12:51] <superm1> abongile, exactly
[12:51] <superm1> abongile, well that and what you want them mapped to
[12:51] <superm1> abongile, but make sure you search the file for if the button is already listed.  a lot are
[12:51] <abongile> superm1, but omitting the hexidecimal?
[12:51] <superm1> abongile, right
[12:54] <abongile> superm1, how will I know what goes in the config line? e.g. mute config=i?
[12:54] <superm1> abongile, well that's the button on the keyboard that it's mapped to
[12:54] <superm1> it's currently mapped to the pipe ( | )
[12:54] <superm1> which is the proper button for it to mute while watching tv
[12:54] <superm1> a majority of these mappings should be right
[12:55] <abongile> superm1, ok let me try!
[13:00] <laga> alright, i'm going home. ttyl
[13:00] <superm1> cya laga
[13:55] <Shred00> anyone who manages the packaging of the weekly builds around?
[13:56] <superm1> Shred00, yeah......
[13:56] <Shred00> superm1: ahh.  bonjour mon ami.
[13:56] <superm1> i just fixed the US server's mirroring today
[13:56] <Shred00> superm1: great.  not sure what was wrong, but great all the same.  :-)
[13:57] <Shred00> superm1: wondering about -dbg packages... are they produced from current packaging?
[13:57] <superm1> Shred00, it was because we tried to turn on trunk builds, and in the process it broke the mirroring of fixes AND trunk builds not working
[13:57] <superm1> Shred00, ah unfortunately not.  the PPA's don't maintain debug symbols like regular buildd's do
[13:58] <Shred00> unfortunate
[13:58] <superm1> normal buildd's create ".ddeb" packages for every build that get published on ddebs.ubuntu.com
[13:58] <superm1> Shred00, you can pop in #launchpad, or on launchpad-users ML though, and request them to add this.  I think it would benefit a lot of packages to have them available for debugging purposes
[13:58] <Shred00> -dbg packages are even part of the standard repos so ddebs.ubuntu.com is not even needed
[13:59] <Shred00> exactly
[13:59] <superm1> well -dbg packages and .ddebs are a little different
[13:59] <superm1> ddebs get installed automatically when an app crashes to generate a crash report
[13:59] <superm1> using the apport system
[13:59] <Shred00> i filed a bug with the myth devs on a segfault and i just know that they will either ask for more details in the stack trace or just ignore the bug altogether as not enough info.
[14:00] <Shred00> which irc server is #launchpad on?
[14:00] <superm1> Shred00, well at this point, you can apt-get source the mythtv package, and make a minor change to the debian/rules file to turn on debug symbols and rebuild it on a ppa i suppose
[14:00] <superm1> for a more immediate solution
[14:00] <superm1> this server (freenode)
[14:12] <Shred00> superm1: yeah, i knew of that route, just trying to avoid it.  :-(
[14:12] <Shred00> er, :-)
[14:14] <superm1> Shred00, if you've got some ideas about how we can improve this (but still share the same packaging that goes into the archive), we'd be all ears
[14:15] <Shred00> superm1: maybe i don't understand all the bits and pieces but wouldn't simply enabling dbg packages on PPA be the solution?
[14:16] <superm1> Shred00, unfortunately you have to juggle performance or debugging ability if you enable it across the board
[14:16] <superm1> the thought process before was that most the people using the PPAs will be looking for tweaks from those weekly builds, not for debugging problems
[14:17] <Shred00> superm1: i don't think having debugging symbols in a separate package impacts performance, does it?
[14:18] <superm1> Shred00, well putting them in a separate package no, but there is no separate package right now since the shared packaging is used for the archive and weekly builds
[14:18] <superm1> the archive uses the ddebs instead
[14:20] <Shred00> superm1: i don't think i'm following along.  i don't really care whether it's -dbg packages or ddebs.  the main repos seem to carry the -dbg packages just fine.  but again, i'm probably missing the bigger picture.
[14:21] <superm1> Shred00, yeah the push for the main repos is to not use -dbg packages, so you should be seeing less and less of them showing up
[14:21] <superm1> Shred00, so i suppose how about this.  for the weekly builds we apply a patch to build -dbg packages?
[14:21] <Shred00> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/285205
[14:22] <superm1> yup that's exactly the problem! :)
[14:22] <Shred00> almost 2 months old.  not likely anything will happen with that bug
[14:22] <superm1> well not soon at least.
[14:23] <superm1> Shred00, i'm not sure on the exact handling of how to re-add -dbg symbols to a package.  Have you done this before?  If so and you can supply a patch to the packaging that would be used for weekly builds, i'd be glad to integrate it
[14:23] <superm1> at least how to re-add them so that the PPA doesn't strip them again..
[14:24] <Shred00> no, i have not really dealt with building them either.  :-/
[14:25] <Shred00> but i do have a package here in my source that does...
[14:25] <superm1> Shred00, so it should boil down to adding a new package to debian/control, and then some lines to debian/rules for what to jam in there
[14:26] <Shred00> i'd hope it's even easier than that.  let me check...
[14:26] <Shred00> sadly, you are correct
[14:26] <Shred00> i'm looking at the pulseaudio-0.9.13 package
[14:27] <Shred00> oh, wow.  very nice, brief debian/rules
[14:28] <Shred00> /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk
[15:30] <mustangg> Hello again. I would like to know if my (recognized & working with irw) remote control should automatically work in myth, or if there is some additional setup required. IF so, what ?
[15:31] <jphillip> mustangg ~/.lirc/mythtv file needs to match the button names in your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[15:35] <mustangg> hey jphillip. Those are case-sensitive I guess?
[15:35] <neoneddy> Has anyone tried the new 9.04 version of mythbuntu?
[15:41] <bogus-> 8.04 or 8.10?
[15:41] <jphillip> mustangg not sure, doesn't hurt to match them up
[15:42] <jphillip> neoneddy 9.04 is alpha 1
[15:42] <jphillip> very very early in the release cycle
[15:42] <neoneddy> It's alpha 2 now .. see title
[15:42] <mustangg> jphillip: doing that right now. And if I remember correctly, you were one of those suggesting I try irrecord to get past my config problem - thanks.!
[15:42] <jphillip> no prob mustangg
[15:42] <neoneddy>  but yeah I'm just asking.. is it any good?... it's ahrd to find any good information on what's new or changing
[15:43] <jphillip> to my knowledge not all that much is different at this point, some of the things in the testing ppa will be in there, but you can just get them from the testing ppa
[15:44] <neoneddy> maybe I'll jsut install it ona VM and see what I find
[15:44] <neoneddy> I'd love for dvd burning to finally "just work"
[15:45] <neoneddy> I supose I could file some bug reports and all that
[15:45] <jphillip> mythtv packages are slightly newer, but the weekly builds should be working as of last night
[15:45] <jphillip> neoneddy feel free, testing is always good
[15:46] <bogus-> how is the geforce 2 support in mythbuntu 8.10 nowadays btw?
[15:46] <neoneddy> right now to burn a dvd, I have to modify the startup script to remove a .ICEauthority file.. and  at the moment it's burning PAL dvd's..   sorry that jsut blurted out
[15:48] <tgm4883_laptop> jphillip, not that you are too wrong, but it's alpha 2
[15:50] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop yep I know, been corrected already
[15:51] <jphillip> I guess I missed the release notification
[15:51] <tgm4883_laptop> you should subscribe to our RSS feed ;)
[15:51] <tgm4883_laptop> or are twitter feed
[15:51] <tgm4883_laptop> or our identi.ca feed
[15:51] <jphillip> that would involve me signing up for things
[15:52] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll sign you up, just send me your SSN and CC info ;)
[15:52] <superm1> bogus-, non existant afaik
[15:53] <jphillip>  /msg tgm4883_laptop 555-555-5555....
[15:53] <tgm4883_laptop> wow thats mine too ;)
[15:59] <dan2> what do you guys recommend for a remote control and setup?
[16:00] <superm1> dan2, ms mceusb 2 remote
[16:00] <superm1> they're quite good and work out of the box
[16:00] <jphillip> I second the mceusb
[16:00] <dan2> link?
[16:00] <jphillip> one second
[16:00] <jphillip> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1644435&CatId=358
[16:02] <jphillip> !MCEUSB%
[16:02] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote
[16:02] <jphillip> info there as well
[16:03] <dan2> will this work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121002
[16:03] <tgm4883_laptop> +1 on the MCEUSB2
[16:04] <jphillip> dan2 maybe, I'd recommend just spending the extra $6 on the one I pasted and it will work out of the box
[16:04] <dan2> k
[16:10] <marl_scot> hi there, anyone around able to help with a problem streaming myth recordings via VLC? when i start vlc with its http interface, i can connect to it, but cant browse any videos, it just shows an empty folder/file list, if this is the wrong place to ask could someone direct me to the rite place? thank you
[16:10] <dan2> jphillip, ordered
[16:26] <d0netsFN> hey could someone help me?
[16:26] <d0netsFN> i installed mythbuntu last night
[16:26] <d0netsFN> and for some reason i cant ssh from my g1
[16:26] <d0netsFN> i get this brief warning message and then it disconnects
[16:33] <laga> what is a g1?
[16:34] <d0netsFN> android phone
[16:35] <laga> does it work from another computer?
[16:35] <neoneddy> I got in my from my iPhone easily ... you have to type "yes" usually for the keys or whatever
[16:35] <d0netsFN> right
[16:35] <d0netsFN> see i never get the key
[16:35] <d0netsFN> lemme try uninstalling connectbot
[16:36] <d0netsFN> it works locally from my laptop
[16:40] <d0netsFN> yea that worked
[16:41] <d0netsFN> i need to talk to the maker of the client
[16:41] <d0netsFN> its something to do with needing the key again
[16:41] <d0netsFN> but i shouldnt have to uninstall to get it, yow ming?
[16:46] <neoneddy> d0tnetsFN be glad all your input doesn't goto the terminal and is executed anymore :-)
[16:50] <mustangg> With "storage groups", is there an easy way to add an additional location for myth to automatically save ripped DVDs?
[16:52] <mustangg> because I have no problem adding additional storage group locations, but there is still only the one spot to which I can point myth for the actual work part..
[16:57] <MadChopr> you guys putting video cards with HDMI ports into your 'puters??
[16:59] <MadChopr> or how are you getting your video signal from your computer to  your TV?
[16:59] <MadChopr> or is thre a better place to talk about this kinda stuff that i should be in?
[17:06] <Shred00> MadChopr: depends on the tv.  on my standard svideo-in tv, i use an nvidia fx5200.  on my lcd i use dvi.
[17:06] <Shred00> there is also regular vga if your tv has that
[17:07] <MadChopr> i'm looking to purchase a new tv.. we got an old old tv... with just a coax hook up so i'm gonna get a lcd tv; what tv should i get ?  what tv do you have that has dvi?
[17:08] <d0netsFN> noneddy lol yea i know
[17:08] <MadChopr> gotta run brb
[17:08] <MadChopr> er bbiab.. meeting forgot
[17:08] <d0netsFN> oh he left
[17:08] <d0netsFN> lata yall
[17:10] <CRXLPY> I did an apt-get upgrade last night and it uninstalled mythtv and wont reinstall due to liblame0 not being installable. though apt tells me that libmp3lame0 has replaced liblame0 and it is installed
[17:12] <Shred00> MadChopr: maybe i have a dvi->hdmi cable, but most LCDs have HDMI on them today.
[17:13] <CRXLPY> now I am seeing errors about the source weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release having a malformed relese file
[17:16] <superm1> CRXLPY, can you apt-get update and try once more?
[17:16] <superm1> it should have been taken care of a little bit a go
[17:16] <CRXLPY> still get the fail on the weeklybuilds source
[17:18] <superm1> CRXLPY, okay i'll repoke it
[17:18] <superm1> CRXLPY, oh trunk...
[17:19] <superm1> that's a different story.  we're pushing around  trunk builds right now.  the URL on the website needs to be updated as it will  be changing
[17:20] <CRXLPY> should I remove that source and add the non-trunk weeklybuilds?
[17:20] <superm1> CRXLPY, modify the source to be mythbuntu-trunk-0.22 instead of mythbuntu-trunk
[17:20] <superm1> we'll get the website updated momentarily
[17:26] <CRXLPY> ok, I just got an update notification. updating now. non of the downloads are mythtv related so far
[17:27] <superm1> CRXLPY, they're literally building right now, so they won't come in for another couple of hours
[17:27] <superm1> CRXLPY, but they should be working from now forward (in theory ;))
[17:27] <CRXLPY> ok, I understand
[17:27] <CRXLPY> thanks for the info
[17:28] <CRXLPY>  I had a day off and was gonna clean out my recordings, but with no mythtv working, I guess housework it is......LOL
[17:32] <CRXLPY> it just pulled in mythtv-common from weeklybuilds superm1 ;)
[17:40] <CRXLPY> hmmm, It asked me to reboot, now no X.....  I have an Xorg.0.log that ends with a backtrace
[17:44] <CRXLPY> this is a system that started as a hardy and I upgraded to intrepid using apt-get. maybe I need to clear out my sources and start fresh??
[17:49] <CRXLPY> every update has removed more than the last, now I dont even have X. apt-get update has no errors now, but apt-get upgrade(or dist-upgrade) finds no pkgs to install
[17:51] <CRXLPY> I guess the repo's are in flux now, servs me right for being a linux user (LOL) if I was a windows user I would have ignored the update notice and still had a "working system"(if any windows system is "working")
[17:51] <CRXLPY> j/k
[17:52] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, just a sec, I know there is a kick button somewhere here ;)
[17:53] <CRXLPY> cool tgm4883_laptop superm1 said things were getting settled on the server side, I probly just rushed it. didnt mean to sound crabby or impatient
[18:06] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop so I use hardy in the source definition for trunk even though I run intrepid? (refering to the new sticky post in the forum)
[18:07] <tgm4883_laptop_> no
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, what part says that?
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> I need to know so I can write it better
[18:08] <CRXLPY> ok, one sec
[18:08] <CRXLPY> step 2 of enabling the respository for trunk
[18:09] <CRXLPY> instructions show hardy in the line for both us and uk mirrors
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> you mean at mythbuntu.org?
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> !weekly
[18:09] <Zinn> Weekly builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy and Intrepid.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, so is this the confusing part "The repository is available on two mirrors. Choose the mirror closer to you. If you are using something other than Hardy, please change "hardy" to the release that applies to you (hardy, intrepid, jaunty, etc)."
[18:11] <CRXLPY> DUH!!   sorry tgm4883_laptop I am moving through to many systems atm. I did not rtfm verywell
[18:12]  * CRXLPY retreats behind the sofa
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> so it's good then?
[18:13] <MadChopr> so do most people use a DVI -> HDMI cable to get the signal from the computer to their TV?
[18:14] <tgm4883_laptop> MadChopr, I do on one TV, the other has a VGA input
[18:15] <CRXLPY> yeah tgm4883_laptop it's just fine. I should have read it better
[18:17] <CRXLPY> but I still have a broke system.  are the updates in the pipe today that will get my system working again? not only do I not have X, I cant even run nano, I get an illegal instruction error
[18:17] <CRXLPY> vi works though
[18:20] <MadChopr> tgm4883_laptop: thank you very much; if i'm going to get a brand new television; should i get the kind that has HDMI connectors?  or should i get some other kind?
[18:21] <CRXLPY> the more options the better MadChopr
[18:21] <MadChopr> CRXLPY: okay, thank you; is HDMI the best though?
[18:22] <MadChopr> or is it more complicated than that?
[18:22] <tgm4883_laptop> more complicated
[18:22] <MadChopr> okay, figures so :)
[18:23] <MadChopr> but essentially all i need is a video card that has DVI output and then buy a DVI->HDMI cable and i'm set, correct?
[18:23] <MadChopr> i mean, if i also buy a TV that has HDMI
[18:24] <tgm4883_laptop> if you do that, either make sure that the TV will accept audio from another connector while it has hdmi in active (which I doubt will happen) or get a video card that will do hdmi out for both video and audio
[18:24] <tgm4883_laptop> or if you have a seperate sound receiver, it doesn't matter than much I guess
[18:24] <MadChopr> tgm4883_laptop: interesting; what if route my audio from the laptop to a stereo, woudl that still be okay to have HDMI running just video from my computer?
[18:24] <MadChopr> tgm4883_laptop: right on, thank you for your help
[18:25] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[18:25] <MadChopr> i kinda figured i'd route the sound some other way
[18:25] <MadChopr> most tv speakers are the sukkage
[18:25] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[18:27] <CRXLPY> well I am grabbing the 9.04-a2 amd64 iso. since this sys was installed using the standard 8.01 cd I bet there is some 64/32 arguement happening. I will just install on top. now to start locating the files I need to back up, too bad I cant use the awesome backup scripts since I screwed up the upgrade aparently
[18:28] <MadChopr> will any DVI->HDMI connector do, does anyone have any recommendations?
[18:28] <CRXLPY> thanks for the fast feedback guys. I will let you know how things came out
[18:28] <Tempest2k> hi im new to myth how can i setup channels for satalite (freesat UK) does not seem to be options for satalite as the dvb-t cards work ?
[18:29] <Tempest2k> i have a skystar 2 pci card that seems to be detected by the hardware
[18:37] <superm1> you were trying to do an i386->amd64 conversion?
[18:37] <superm1> yikes...
[18:42] <CRXLPY> superm1 actually no
[18:42] <mustangg> fellas, I was asking about a way to have multiple DVD "rip-to" targets - seeing as there is the newish storage group functionality now.. Any ideas?
[18:42] <superm1> what happened then?  illegal instructions are most likely to happen when you are trying to run instructions not intended for your CPU?
[18:44] <CRXLPY> I ran apt-get upgrade last night, using the same sources I have had for atleast 2mos, it started removing myth-anything and cant reinstall due to liblame0 being uninstallable
[18:47] <CRXLPY> a few min ago I run apt-get upgrade after correcting my trunk entry and it pulls in mythtv-common but after the requested reboot (to 2.6.27-11) I now have no x and get that error when I try to run nano
[18:49] <CRXLPY> I have started moving all the lists from /etc/apt I will write new ones by hand. where can I find what sources should be listed in an intrepid install?
[18:49] <CRXLPY> all sources, not just weeklybuilds
[18:54] <CRXLPY> if I try to startx I get a backtrace
[19:03] <CRXLPY> if I do a new install w/o formatting will that leave me with a broken system?
[19:04] <dan2> when I'm in the tv guide on myth
[19:04] <dan2> how do I jump channels?
[19:06] <superm1> CRXLPY, interesting situation.  i'm not sure what caused all that breakage...
[19:06] <superm1> CRXLPY, if you do a new install w/o formatting, it should overwrite any broken stuff
[19:07] <CRXLPY> but I would need to reinstall from the 8.01 cd the system started with?
[19:07] <CRXLPY> I dont want to lose my database and be left with 300GB of cryptic *.nuvs
[19:08] <superm1> CRXLPY, oh i see
[19:08] <superm1> backup your mysql database then
[19:10] <CRXLPY> I am rebooting now, since it seems I will need to reinstall, I figured I would try the other microsoft method too ;)
[19:14] <CRXLPY> well well well. after a reboot I am back in X!!!!    I made no changes or installed anything. just rebooted again
[19:15] <CRXLPY> still no myth :(
[19:16] <superm1> CRXLPY, well no myth is more resolvable
[19:16] <superm1> CRXLPY, check and make sure the packages are installed now
[19:17] <CRXLPY> now upgrade tells me about a bunch of mythtv-themse but no mythtv is installed
[19:18] <superm1> CRXLPY, yeah myththemes were just uploaded :)
[19:18] <superm1> CRXLPY, so reinstall mythtv hopefully
[19:18] <superm1> in the future if you are offered to upgrade that removes a lot of packages, it means mirrors are updating likely, and hold off a little
[19:19] <CRXLPY> it still fails on liblame0
[19:19] <CRXLPY> I will superm1
[19:20] <CRXLPY> I made the error of assumption. when I saw things in the remove list, I "assumed" they were in the install list as well
[19:21] <superm1> CRXLPY, can you type apt-cache policy liblame0
[19:21] <superm1> and provide that output in a pastebin
[19:21] <superm1> !pastebin | CRXLPY
[19:21] <Zinn> CRXLPY: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[19:21] <CRXLPY> ok, i know pastebin :)
[19:22] <Tempest2k> can anybody help with satalite chanel setup in myth i cant seem to scan for any satalite chanals
[19:28] <dashcloud> Tempest2k: do you mean US satellite?
[19:29] <crxdvr> sorry for the delay superm1, had to deal with a furball.....   http://pastebin.com/m30f8db68
[19:33] <crxdvr> superm1: this is apt-config dump http://pastebin.com/m63516fb3
[19:35] <CRXLPY> a month or so back I had to fix the ffmpeg (mpeg2video) encoder issue. not sure if that involved a custom compile of liblame. I followed steps in a forum post, but I cant find it now
[19:37] <CRXLPY> btw in case it wasnt obvious crxdvr and CRXLPY are both me :) . I might type from either superm1, just depends which desk I am closest to
[19:40] <superm1> CRXLPY, can you remove that liblame0 package?
[19:41] <superm1> then install libmp3lame0
[19:41] <superm1> it's the proper package
[19:43] <CRXLPY> superm1 acording to apt that is how it stands already. liblame0 is not installed and libmp3lame0 is installed
[19:43] <CRXLPY> it has said that from the start
[19:44] <superm1> oh sorry, i guess i read that wrong
[19:44] <CRXLPY> should I uninstall libmp3lame0 and reinstall it?
[19:44] <superm1> why is /var/lib/dpkg/status showing liblame0 then
[19:44] <superm1> did you not purge it?
[19:46] <CRXLPY> if it was part of the forum's fix for ffmpeg, then I did it. I have not purged anything unless told to in steps.
[19:46] <CRXLPY> when I upgraded from hardy to intrepid should I have done some purging?
[19:49] <crxdvr> superm1:  this is the output for "apt-cache policy libmp3lame0" http://pastebin.com/maba04f6
[19:50] <superm1> CRXLPY, hmm. well try dpkg --purge liblame0
[19:50] <superm1> just in case that's why dpkg status is showing it
[19:50] <superm1> then show the output of apt-get install mythtv
[20:06] <crxdvr> ok superm1 here you go , I had to add to the orig pastebin.  http://pastebin.com/m79e13058
[20:07] <crxdvr> still fails on liblame0 btw
[20:09] <CRXLPY> I apologize for being slow with replies, I know how that can make help dificult. I am all yours now so you wont need to wait 15min for a reply
[20:17] <Tempest2k> can anybody help with satalite chanel setup in myth i cant seem to scan for any satalite chanals
[20:18] <superm1> crxdvr, i think i understand a little better now what's happening...
[20:18] <CRXLPY> yippy
[20:19] <superm1> once the versions on the trunk ppa finish building and repos update with the new version, it should be taken care of
[20:19] <superm1> are you on UK or US mirror?
[20:19] <CRXLPY> us
[20:21] <superm1> okay yeah, can you just let this sit for a bit and check back tomorrow?  the builds need to be repushed to the trunk because they failed to build, so in case anything else happens causing future build failures (it's been a long day trying to get things sorted), no use sitting around for it
[20:21] <superm1> the cause of the confusion is the old build on there is about 4 months old for trunk
[20:21] <superm1> and there as a lame migration since then
[20:21] <CRXLPY> ouch
[20:21] <CRXLPY> you are having a fun day arent you?
[20:23] <CRXLPY> thanks for taking the time to look superm1. I will wait till tomorrow then
[20:23] <superm1> CRXLPY, well multitasking, but yeah this was supposed to be a quick thing to get done before i left for work earlier this morning :)
[20:24] <Tempest2k> do you need another program or something it works with dvb-t but not dvb-s
[20:24] <superm1> Tempest2k, try in #mythtv-users
[20:24] <superm1> looks like no one in here knows much about satellite with myth
[20:25] <Tempest2k> will try thnx
[20:25] <CRXLPY> I was googling about it Tempest2k but since I dont have sat I am outa range here
[20:26] <mustangg> and I don have access to a compatible DVB card so using my sat with myth doesn't work.
[20:27] <mustangg> Can anyone please point me to some proper FAQ/info about storage groups?
[20:29] <CRXLPY> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Storage_Groups#Storage_Groups
[20:29] <CRXLPY> mustangg I googled "mythtv storage groups"
[20:31] <mustangg> hmm, I only got a few getting-old threads when I tried that.. Well, great - thank you.
[20:34] <mustangg> URK! It seems to lack the specifics I need to answer my own question.  You see, I already have added the additional storage element to the backend, call it mnt2 if you will. My problem is that mnt1 is getting full and there is only one path for video rip saves. So how do I get myth to use both now?
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> mustangg, for video rips?
[20:34] <mustangg> yeah, for my DVDs.
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> your talking about the mythvideo dir right?
[20:34] <mustangg> I think mythvideo is the default, yes.
[20:35] <tgm4883_laptop> in mythvideo, the synax for using multiple directories is "/path/to/dir/1:/path/to/dir/2"
[20:35] <tgm4883_laptop> the : is the seperator
[20:35] <tgm4883_laptop> you should try that and see if it fixes your issue
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> I myself don't use it though, as I rip my DVD's on my lappy
[20:36] <mustangg> and will it still use he correct posters location?
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> yea the posters location is a separate dir
[20:44] <mustangg> excellent. Ie made the config changes and hopefully I can finish ripping my vids in time for bed ;).. thanks.
[23:27] <mustangg> hello again. Wondering if anyone has seen the problem of "ghost" entries in the video list, just a number (the hash?) Can't lookup info for it and can't  seem to delete it. Anyone know what this is called - and how to remove them?
[23:28] <tgm4883_laptop> mustangg, I haven't seen this, but I assume you could delete them directly from the db
[23:31] <mustangg> they seem to appear if you try and rip a disk to a drive which either has no space or hasn't properly mounted. The rip goes all the way to the end- IF your temp location has sufficient space. Then when it tries to write to the final destination - poof!
[23:31] <tgm4883_laptop> seems like a bug
[23:31] <tgm4883_laptop> have you filed a bug?
[23:32] <mustangg> haven gotten that far. I didn know if it was an old problem or just me . :)
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like it doesn't check that the file was successfully copied
[23:33] <tgm4883_laptop> which IMO is a bug
[23:33] <tgm4883_laptop> !bug
[23:33] <tgm4883_laptop> !bugs
[23:33] <tgm4883_laptop> bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[23:33] <tgm4883_laptop> thats where it should be
[23:34] <mustangg> ok, once I work out how to remove them, I'll try and make some new ones.
[23:34] <mustangg> if that work- I ĺl file a bug re[prt/
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[23:37] <mustangg> ok, so where should I look to remove them . Is there a second method outside video manager?
[23:37] <tgm4883_laptop> afaik, just the db
[23:37] <tgm4883_laptop> if you installed phpmyadmin, it would be in the videometadata table I think
[23:46] <mustangg> never used it - how do I execute it?
[23:47] <tgm4883_laptop> phpmyadmin?
[23:47] <mustangg> yup.
[23:47] <tgm4883_laptop> you have to install it on your mysql server then go to http://mysqlserverIP/phpmyadmin
[23:50] <mustangg> ok next stupid question. It isn' t autoconfigured if I grab it with apt?
[23:53] <tgm4883_laptop> should be
[23:53] <mustangg> maybe I selected the wrong server during interactive setup... apache.. ?
[23:54] <tgm4883_laptop> apache2
[23:56] <mustangg> aha. ok will try again and get back.  thank you.