[00:09] hi, does anyone here have experience with IR blasters? [00:10] I just picked one up from irblaster.info, and am unable to verify that it's functional at all [00:11] high [00:11] im really newb [00:11] but i might be able to help [00:12] do you have experience with IR blasters? [00:12] i just got mythtv working on my ubuntu8.10 install with mceusb pvr 150 kit [00:12] yea [00:12] i just got mine working yesterday [00:12] but now im formatting again [00:12] and installing mythbuntu instead [00:12] hmm, but with mceusb, which I believe uses a different lirc driver [00:12] im not sure [00:12] you might know more than I [00:13] where did you find an mceusb? The links I found in the howtos for those all dead-ended for me :) [00:13] try froogle.com [00:13] hmm, k [00:13] is that what you mean? [00:13] I need help getting the windows mce remote working with mythbuntu, irw responds correctly to all the buttons on the remote but does not work within mythbuntu, please help! [00:13] I guess so [00:13] like you want the actual product [00:13] or a tutorial [00:14] my gf found the pvr150 on ebay for about 70 bucks [00:14] it was the mce kit [00:14] d0netsFN: I'm interested in the mceusb product, in the event that this serial blaster doesn't work out [00:14] oh you bought a serial blaster? [00:14] i dont know much about that [00:16] ah; if mceusb runs $70, that's a much higher price point, and probably overkill anyway since I only need the blasting support :) [00:16] no thats with a card though [00:16] it was a mce kit [00:16] ok [00:16] pvr150 pci tv tuner [00:17] the remote [00:17] the ir receiver , and the ir blaster [00:17] * vorlon nods [01:12] does the dvd rip function in mythtv work or is pretty much useless? [01:13] I keep getting no job or nothing left to do when it hits what appears to be intentional defects in dvd's [01:15] compuvest have pvr150's for 49 bucks [01:15] btw, just commenting on the previous conversation [01:15] correct me if I'm wrong here but wouldn't a hvr 1600 be a much better choice then a pvr150? [01:15] they are the same price at that 70 buck point [01:15] I'm not looking for a pvr at all [01:16] only an IR blaster [01:16] but anywho, back to my question about ripping [01:16] is it something that's just left over from the old days or can it still be used [01:17] I haven't set up a remote yet, I'm building still, partially running 1 input card, I'm going to try a wiimote I think [01:19] why not just get a serial blaster? [01:19] are they no good? [01:19] seems like I've seen them advertised for like 25 bucks [01:22] I think from reading back there vorlon, and I am by no means much more than a newbie, but you would need to look through "dmesg" maybe "lspci" and there are a few others including logfiles on your system and try to identify if the hardware has been recognised [01:26] er, I do have a serial blaster [01:26] which means it's not going to show up under lspci :) [01:27] Anyone know if the dvd rip function of mythtv is still a useable feature? or should I be trying to look elsewhere for dvd rip functionality [01:27] what about dmesg [01:27] likewise. [01:27] it's dumb hardware; dmesg isn't going to see it [01:27] all dmesg shows is whether the modules are loaded correctly and being used [01:28] well, then with my knowledge, you are left to build a receiver decoder to see what ir is in the air heh [01:28] again I'm a newbie eh [01:28] :) [01:28] short of replacing the ir diode with a visible light onw [01:29] I'll back off of this conversation tho as this is one of my next steps is to set that up [01:35] nixon [01:35] is that 49 bucks for the mce kit? [01:37] no I think it's just a card and driver disk [01:37] still those are obsolete items that are out of production [01:37] that's why I was asking about the hvr 1600 [01:37] Nixon: if discs do bad blocks are copy protection then the mythtv ripper fails [01:37] install gddrescue and use that [01:38] ddrescue /dev/dvd [01:38] seems like all disks are using bad sector protections these days, I tried gddrescue on 2 disks but the result was mixed and not playable everywhere, although vlc handled the iso [01:38] so multipass is better? [01:39] really, I've never hit a disc that hasn't worked with that [01:39] do you then transcode it? [01:39] maybe that's the diff, as I didn't do the logfile bit and only ran the one pass [01:39] actually I lie, I hit one but it was an old concert video one so I assumed they just didn't follow specs or something [01:40] no, I use isos [01:40] the logfile isn't needed [01:40] but it lets you resume [01:40] your iso's will play with mythtv's internal player? [01:40] no reason not to use it and just delete it once you are done [01:40] you can ctrl+C to kill it when its choking on nothing but bad bits as well [01:40] normally will have all the good data then and will be playable [01:40] yep [01:41] some have menu issues [01:41] but I can normally work around them [01:41] cool, I'll give it another shot [01:41] !xine | Nixon [01:41] Nixon: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine [01:41] try that as well [01:41] yeah my gdd'd iso's will play on vlc, but not the internal... nor will they transcode on down [01:41] I'll give that a whirl with your command line [01:42] Nixon: try other discs, you could have a badly damaged one or just one with real bad protection [01:42] ohh yeah one of them is serious protection.. well both I think [01:42] :) [01:42] actually I lied again, I had one I had to use some windows ripper on after ddrescue failed a few times [01:42] vantage point [01:42] I wanted to try the hard ones [01:43] but I normally have very very good luck with gddrescue [01:43] there's got to be ways around it, without having to pay for anydvd [01:43] there was some free ripper that worked there, windows only though [01:43] maybe referring to dvdshrink? [01:43] I had to rip all the vob's then patch them then use dvdshrink to put them back together [01:44] google the name of the dvd and add "rip" or "ripping" or something, if its a problem disc you should be able to find people discussing it [01:44] yeah I don't mind multipart ripping, I just haven't found the way to do it [01:45] thank you for the info I'll grab a 3rd older disk and try your command line [01:45] if they are old they may do something silly like not follow certain standards which may give some players a fit [01:45] in that case, try xine [01:47] latest harry potter won't even hardly play in my component dvd player the protection is so intense, well it won't play through the menu, you got to trick it [01:47] there getting bad [01:49] Nixon: its sad when the protection gets so obtrusive that a straight dvd player can't even play it [01:50] hey guys [01:50] I'm wondering if I could get a bit of help with this [01:51] on my haupagge tuner hvb950q, it seems to load driver right, and I installed the firmware in /lib/firmware [01:51] but [01:51] I get errors like this [01:51] http://rafb.net/p/395Geh18.html [01:54] dan2, looks like it didn't like your firmware [01:54] k [01:54] so what do I need to do [01:54] it's hvr950q [01:55] dan2, did you follow a guide or something? [01:55] ya... [01:55] it may have been for the regular 950 [01:55] instead of the q [01:55] I have a regular 950, and have a guide for 8.10 [01:57] ok [01:57] nevermind, I think I got it [01:57] thanks anyway [01:59] Nixon: right, well, part of the point of trying to use irblaster.info as a vendor was to avoid having to mess around with soldering anything, so I'm not keen on that option :-) [01:59] is there a good support page for loading the air2pc firmware under mythbuntu 8.10? [02:02] tgm4883_laptop, so it's taking the firmware now, but it's not tuning into any of the channels [02:02] I know it's working [02:02] I yanked the antenna cable from my tv [02:02] (inputs) [02:05] if i install mythbuntu [02:05] then ubuntu desktop [02:06] should i see applications, places, and system at the top? [02:06] like ubuntu [02:25] abongile__, i was saying ~/.lirc [02:25] look closely at what i typed [02:32] how do i get mythbuntu to look just like my ubuntu [02:32] al i see is the applications menu [02:33] d0netsFN, boot up into gnome? [02:34] explain [02:35] d0netsFN, on the login screen, click on sessions and then click on gnome [02:37] hey guys [02:38] if I have another ubuntu machine, how do I connect it with my new mythbuntu box to view the content locally [02:39] dan2, install mythtv on that other box [02:40] thanks tgm4883_laptop [02:41] d0netsFN, np [02:45] hrmm for some reason i cant get avant to work [02:45] i click it from the applications/accessories menu but i get nada [02:47] oh [02:48] i don think i have compiz enabled yet [02:54] hmm [02:54] superm1, which package? [02:54] dan2, "mythtv-frontend" [02:54] I did that [02:54] sorry [02:54] I can't seem to connect to the other server [02:54] from this box [02:54] I checked the db passwords [02:54] that's good [02:55] I think it's trying to connect to localhost instead of the backend [02:56] where do I set Master Server settings? [02:56] mythtv-setup [02:56] on your backend comp [02:58] k [02:58] so what do I need to do in particular in there? [02:58] hey i went to hardware drivers and installed the latest (recommended) driver [02:58] and rebooted [02:58] dan2, the general page [02:58] change the two ip address boxes to be the ip address of your backend [02:58] but when i go to system/preferences/appearance/visual effects , the options are greyed out (i cant enable compiz) [02:59] k [03:00] any ideas? [03:00] sweet [03:00] thanks [03:01] hrmm is it not included with mythbuntu? [03:01] d0netsFN, nvidia or amd? [03:01] ok i did sudo apt-get install compiz-wrapper [03:01] nvidia [03:01] now the visual effects options arent greyed out [03:02] ah okay [03:02] but i get "desktop effects could not be enabled" when i select extra [03:02] run nvidia-settings tool from the menus [03:02] and see if it shows any problems [03:05] what am i looking for [03:05] man this is awesome [03:12] woohoo [03:12] progress [03:12] now if i could just get "watch tv" to work [03:12] should it work with just going through the mythtv-setup stuff? [03:12] or do i have to do the database stuff like i did with ubuntu + mythtv [03:12] d0netsFN, you have to do mythtv-setup stuff [03:12] and then it will start working [03:12] i did that [03:12] no working [03:14] d0netsFN, you have to go through "all" sections [03:14] including general from start to end [03:14] i did [03:14] this kinda sucks ,you have to install a bunch of stuff that should already be installed (pidgin, gnome-mount, etc...) [03:16] d0netsFN: most people dedicate boxes to running mythtv, so they don't want all that fluff [03:24] ok... so this remote control. any chance it works with this tuner on linux? Hauppage WinTV 950Q [03:28] i just went through steps 1-6 again [03:30] dan2, well i know that tuner works in linux, that remote, that's probably a stretch [03:31] so superm i dont have to do anything with creating a database with mythbuntu? [03:31] when i had ubuntu and installed myth sep. i had to create a database and such [03:38] superm1, tuner works nice [03:38] seems to work better than the tuner in my samsung [03:41] somebody help: whatis lircd.conf.mceusb? nano opens a blank/new file, whatis returns: nothing appopriate. I am newbie trying to get the mce remote working with mythbuntu. [03:41] alright... so... [03:41] how do I get this to scan my existing video collection in [03:42] ok hey [03:42] watchtv is progress [03:43] i get blank screen with static noise [03:43] so i think its on the wrong channel [03:43] how do i change the channel on the tuner [04:00] superm1: do you have any experience with serial IR blasters? [04:01] how do i change the channel with ivtv [04:02] d0netsFN: manually? ivtv-tune [04:03] vorlon, yes I do. mixed experiences due to some very difficult to discern hardware bugs, but yes some experiences [04:03] vorlon, what's happening? [04:03] superm1: a difficult to discern hardware bug, I believe ;) [04:03] varlon [04:03] whats the syntax [04:03] ivtv-tune -c 3? [04:04] nevermind i think the channel is right [04:04] but its all black [04:04] why [04:04] vorlon, so the best thing to simplify finding the problem is to take out other parts in the chain with lirc (eg dont chain lirc instances and configure a remote and blaster until you get the blaster working properly) [04:04] superm1: I think the IR blaster I got is DOA; followed all the howtos, tested it on two different computers, everything looks good per dmesg, no sign that I'm getting IR; including testing with a digital camera whose CCD is sensitive to IR from remotes [04:05] d0netsFN: mm, could be a lot of reasons why it's black; but ivtv-tune -c 3 is correct syntax, yes - you may have to specify a frequency table as well, e.g., 'ivtv-tune -t us-cable -c 3' [04:05] well im getting sound though [04:05] vorlon, are you sure that you are using the correct io port and irq for your serial port then? [04:05] i can hear its on the history channel [04:05] (what i have my drecttv stb set to) [04:06] and are you sure that it's been enabled in the bios (i know dumb question, but you have to ask it :)) [04:06] d0netsFN: may be an alpha channel issue; maybe something else [04:06] superm1: yes. I've tested on two systems, one of which I have a VGA console on and double-checked in the BIOS. [04:07] on the other system where I don't have handy BIOS access, the UART shows up in dmesg at boot time and I know I've used the serial port in the past so it should still be good [04:07] vorlon, any method you have to test that the serial port itself hasn't been fried? null modem cable between two boxes perhaps? [04:07] ah okay [04:07] don't have a null modem cable handy, nor another box handy to plug it into [04:08] having to move the boxes into the same room for testing would make me cross. :) [04:08] vorlon, then as a last resort, by chance have some spare low ohm resistors and LEDs sitting around? you can always throw together a small test circuit [04:09] superm1: haha no. I went with irblaster.info to avoid having to do such things, falling into the "programmer with screwdriver" category. :-) [04:09] superm1: let me bounce you an email, if you don't mind... [04:10] vorlon, ah. yeah i actually have bought a blaster from them before too when i wanted one in a nice pretty case and all rather than the hack jobs i've done in the past [04:10] vorlon, sure [04:11] superm1: forwarded [04:11] hey what is the regular ubuntu vnc server? [04:11] the one that is in system [04:11] as (remote desktop) [04:12] d0netsFN: vino [04:14] vorlon, one more possible thing is to turn on soft carrier support [04:14] vorlon, i've seen a weird mix of systems that need it and dont need it [04:14] hmm, ok [04:14] that's a lirc_serial option, right? [04:15] (right) [04:15] yeah it's a boolean option [04:15] parm: softcarrier:Software carrier (0 = off, 1 = on) (bool) [04:16] alternatively, is there a good test case for testing the IR blaster using raw serial instead of lirc_serial, just to try to get it to light up? [04:16] I'll play around with softcarrier and see if it makes a difference, thanks; but first I need to arrange dinner [04:16] Hmm, Hardy and Intrepid seem to now have incompatible fixes versions. [04:18] vorlon, i'm sure that some hackery could be written up in pyserial if you'd so please, but at that point, you are almost better off grabbing a variable power supply and applying it directly to the pins of the blaster itself. [04:18] hads, on which mirror? [04:18] i theoretically just fixed mirroring on the us mirror [04:18] superm1: nz.a.u.c - they are probably out of date, they always seem to be having trouble. [04:19] I'll check another. [04:19] hads, oh you're not talking about the mythbuntu mythtv fixes repo, you mean the normal archive [04:19] Yeah, normal [04:20] I just noticed my frontend on this Intrepid desktop wants to upgrade the db [04:20] (mythbuntu weeklybuilds us mirror was broken for a while, and w/o access to it's SSH key I couldn't fix it until after holiday) [04:20] you sure you didn't accidentally add on a weeklybuilds repo on one of those machines? [04:20] Nope, no weeklys [04:20] But I just broke my diskless somehow so that's more of a priority now :) [04:23] superm1: variable power supply... another item I don't have to hand. ;) [04:24] hey guys, so how come I don't see my video/media library other than recordings in mythfrontend [04:24] when connecting to the backend server [04:26] superm1: According to packages.u.c hardy-backports has r18207 and intrepid has r18722 [04:36] hads, yeah you can see more of that summarized here: launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv [04:38] Neat thanks. I always get lost on LP [04:38] You know you have a bad memory when a google finds your own fix for a problem. [04:39] that's gotta be exciting though :) [04:39] abongile__, did you do what i told you earlier about this? [04:41] Please advise again, I thought I did and followed everything you said, please help me. [04:41] I should probably update my master backend to Intrepid one day. Being different db versions isn't that convinient. [04:41] http://pastebin.com/m1d4b9550 [04:41] any ideas why im getting black screen when i click watch tv [04:41] (sound works though) [04:41] abongile__, i asked you to choose the mceusb remote in mythbuntu control centre and be sure to check the box to regenerate the remote button mappings [04:42] abongile__, after regenerating them, if buttons are still not working in your apps (but they worked in irw), then you'll have to manually modify the mappings in ~/.lirc [04:42] superm1, yes I did that and its still not working in mythbuntu but irw recognises it fine as before, what do I do now? [04:43] abongile__, so which app is not recognizing keys, and which keys? [04:43] would that be in the dev, etc, proc, local folders I have been all over looking for what you said. [04:43] mythbuntu, but I have not checked it with Xine or VLC. [04:44] abongile__, so you mean the regular mythtv application? [04:44] abongile__, the main interface etc [04:44] superm1, Only a few keys are recognised like stop which works as stop, back and exit. [04:45] yes, the main interface [04:45] abongile__, okay so what keys aren't working? [04:45] (that you want working) [04:46] superm1, back, info, mute, tv record, basically all the keys are not working as they should or at as expected. [04:46] abongile__, okay so what you'll want to do is quit mythtv and then run the "ircat" command on your mythtv lircrc file [04:46] ircat ~/.lirc/mythtv generally does the trick [04:47] it will show a blank prompt (similar to how irw worked) where you can press buttons [04:47] ok, trying that now! [04:47] abongile__, so try pressing the buttons you know work and look at the output, then try the ones that dont work [04:47] i rebooted and now i dont even get the black screen and audio anymore [04:47] it just goes back to the menu [04:47] oh wait [04:47] i think its cause i dont have the storage partition mounted [04:49] superm1, in which folder shall I find the right file ro run the ircat command on I see: lirc: /etc/lirc /usr/share/lirc [04:50] abongile__, the proper syntax would be this exact command: [04:50] ircat -c ~/.lirc/mythtv mythtv [04:50] meaning load config file ~/.lirc/mythtv [04:50] and check for buttons presses that match the mythtv application [04:51] you'll run it from your home directory (~) [04:53] superm1, I get a usage message back [04:53] abongile__, then i might be off a little on the syntax ;) [04:54] try it like this: [04:54] ircat --config=/home/supermario/.lirc/mythtv mythtv [04:54] where supermario is your username [04:58] superm1, that works like irw except it's not getting the keys right: stop = escape, ok=return, back a chapter=q, it doesn't look like it is recognising the remote correctly. [04:59] abongile__, then that means you need to add extra subsections for those missing keys to that config file [05:01] does that mean i run irw and somehow copy the right key mapping and paste in the lirc.conf file in /home/../lirc/mythtv? [05:04] Hmm, I don't think the versions are incompatible, something's going on with my remote frontends. [05:04] superm1, I can't get to a lirc.conf file from within the lirc folder [05:05] abongile__, it's not a lirc.conf [05:05] its just /home/user/.lirc/mythtv [05:06] superm1, but then where do I find where the correct buttons are stored and how I append them to /home/usr/.lirc/mythtv? [05:07] OK, looks like it was bad config.xml files. [05:10] abongile__, open that file in a text editor [05:10] abongile__, and then look at the syntax [05:10] you can see more info by looking at 'man ircat' too [05:12] Bah, I can't be bothered thinking about it anymore it's too hot. For some reason I suddenly needed extra permsissions that my mythtv mysql user didn't have. [05:12] Using my personal user with full permissions lets the frontend startup. [05:16] superm1, ok opened the file the buttons are there as responded to ircat, how do I get the right button mapping into this file? Should I back this one up, if yes how? [05:17] abongile__, so yes back up this file. copy it to another file. [05:17] abongile__, the missing button names should be found from irw [05:17] and the corresponding actions you do yourself. [05:18] tbh though, it's a little perplexing that anything is going wrong with a mceusb in the first place. those things are so common (and *I* have one that works OOTB) [05:18] superm1, I am as noob as one get's how do I back it up? [05:18] abongile__, what release of mythbuntu is this? [05:18] 8.10 intrepid [05:18] hum [05:19] very odd... [05:19] hads: if you delete the old config.xml and start a frontend, it should create a new (backup first!) [05:19] would you mind running "pastebinit ~/.lirc/mythtv" [05:19] superm1: fwiw, no change with softcarrier=1 on my system with known-good serial port [05:19] i'm curious what got spit out for your file [05:19] vorlon, too bad :( [05:19] rhpot1991: Yeah, they are safe to delete. [05:20] rhpot1991: Even if it wasn't it's just connection info which you can put back again. [05:20] hads: there is some unique ID in there as well, I never figured out where that came from [05:20] superm1: no other guesses? :) [05:20] Mine issue is something further than that though but I've worked around it now and will think about it later :) [05:21] superm1, how so? I upgraded from an earlier releases, would that have an effect? [05:21] It likely stems from me renumbering subnets here to implement VPN [05:22] vorlon, well there is a perplexing piece. why are you using /dev/lirc1 instead of /dev/lirc0? what's the other device you are loading as primary? [05:22] oh nvm, pvr350 w/ i2c probably [05:23] superm1: that system has a receiver as lirc0 [05:23] superm1, I have the following for irw irw: /usr/bin/irw /usr/share/man/man1/irw.1.gz, which would contain the filr with the right button keys? [05:23] vorlon, on your debian system, can you try to specify the sending device (even though there is only one device on the system) [05:24] abongile__, i'm saying to run irw to get your key names that you needed [05:25] abongile__, i was asking you to pastebin your ~/.lirc/mythtv to see if there was anything in there indicating why it was so empty [05:25] by default on 8.10 it should be a lot more plentiful [05:25] irw responds correctly but how do I get those mappings into the /'lirc/mythtv file? [05:25] you have to manually add sections [05:25] superm1: "specify the sending device" in what sense? [05:25] if they're not getting automatically generated [05:25] vorlon, like you did in the first case, -d /dev/lircd etc [05:25] vorlon, i've seen some unexpected behavior otherwise [05:26] superm1: you mean on the second Debian system, then? I could test that; but kernel debugging definitely shows the activity [05:26] (as does strace) [05:27] vorlon, oh if you are seeing activity via those then nvm. [05:27] vorlon, i think at this point you'll have to rely on getting a new blaster from irblaster.info folk then [05:27] * vorlon nods [05:28] thanks for your time poking at it [05:28] no prob [06:02] superm1: well, it's trivial to set DTR high with python-serial; to no effect. guess I have to wait for the vendor. :) === tgm4883_laptop_ is now known as tgm4883_laptop [06:53] im getting this "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/includes/objects/Program.php on line 291" [06:53] when i click listings in mythweb [07:38] i'm wondering why no -dbg packages on the weekly updates. i have a segfault in libmyth (calling XvShmPutImage) and want to file it but having the stack trace print meaningful data for libmyth would be helpful I'm sure. [09:08] how all. is it possible to make a screenshot of only the network-manager icon? [09:17] is there a terminal command for running a .jar [09:51] hello all, I have been trying for a whilew to get my mce remote owrking with mythtv, I got help from superm1 but now I need to know how to gwt the correct button mapping from irw to the /`.lirc/mythtv file. [10:00] you have to manually add sections [10:00] you have to manually add sections [10:01] I have been trying but don't seem to be getting it right. [10:02] ,mooooooo [10:05] super1, thank you for still being here: I can get right responses from irw and have copied all the info to /`'lirc.mythtv but does not work. I did not follow the syntax of the file for each button. I tried it with record and remote stopped working. [10:05] superm1, I removed my changes, saved the file and the remote is working as it was before. [10:06] So how do I get the buttons which seem to be mapped well in irw into the /`.lirc/mythtv file. [10:08] superm1, I tried to add a section for the record button, but the remote stopped working all together that is the buttons that were working before weren't anymore. What do I need to know about addidng sections? [11:07] what is the difference between the remote definifion in /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb and that in /`.lirc/mythtv? I am trying to get the correct button mappings so that the remote works wirh mythtv (all buttons to work subest of buttons working)? [12:34] abongile, one is a remote definition file, one is a remote bindings file [12:34] eg one tells you what buttons are available, and one tells you what those buttons should do [12:34]