[00:24] hi [00:24] I would like to access #ubuntu in 2009 =) [00:28] LimCore: This is not the support channel [00:36] genii: ? [00:36] LimCore: Based on your past behavior, the rest of the users don't want you to. [00:36] I just thought getting more feedback there to aid my bugreporting and development for ubuntu would be good [00:38] LimCore: The issue has been discussed with you thoroughly. I don't believe anything else can be added. If you feel differently, feel free to state your case succinctly here. Please don't repeat your previous sentiments however. [00:38] months passed [00:39] If you feel there's nothing you can add to the previous discussions, please don't idle here. [00:39] too long bans make no sense especially if they stand in way of cooperation in given foss projects [00:40] LimCore: Again, if you have nothing additional to the previous arguments, please stop wasting the time of everyone, including yourself, and move along. [00:43] as I just said, the thing that time passed, is the new argument. you dont agree with it or what [00:44] LimCore: Time passing means nothing. [00:47] interesting policy then [00:51] @btlogin [00:51] @login [00:51] Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong. [00:51] arg [00:54] nickrud_: You've got one of that thar underscores [00:55] yeah, I'm at work. I'll log in at home since I leave in just a few minutes [01:00] eep, it seems like it was sunday only a couple of hourse ago [01:03] sumo_su: What part aren't you sure about? [01:04] language warning [01:04] could you quote the bit where my language was inappropriate? [01:05] sumo_su: A few people already have. "bullshit" is generally considered profane [01:06] Flannel: i said "i'm not saying you are bullshitting" [01:06] Yes. [01:07] followed by what i think is true [01:08] should i use the term "talking BS" next time? or is that also wrong? [01:09] sumo_su: No, obfuscated swearing still is. [01:09] ok. i'm not a native speaker. is the BS word so bad? [01:09] sumo_su: Are you under the impression that something like "Oh, well, I'm not going to say 'fuck it' but..." isn't swearing? [01:10] Ah [01:10] fuck means sexual intercourse. it's not family friendly [01:10] i mean... to use the word [01:10] right, shit is also vulgar [01:11] but the verb bullshitting is a mean way of acusing somone of lying.. in simple words [01:11] i tried to avoid that impression by saying "im not saying you are.." [01:11] right. But it contains shit. As such, it's still vulgar [01:11] ok [01:11] i didnt notice it at all [01:12] thanks for pointing it out.. [01:12] No problem [01:38] hmm, tried showing ubuntu to my mom earlier. She seemed interested, but, a little drunk. [01:38] I'll try and catch her when she's sober [01:39] was kinda amusing though - her ranting and raving and swearing at "the little man who's asleep" (the status icon for the sign in window for yahoo messenger) [01:58] !jaunty [01:58] In ubottu, rww said: !no, ubuntu+1 is jaunty [01:58] Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April -Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion [01:58] !ubuntu+1 [01:58] Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is the current release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 [01:58] !-ubuntu+1 [01:58] ubuntu+1 is intrepid - added by LjL on 2006-11-29 22:24:59 - last edited by jrib on 2008-10-11 12:21:33 [01:59] !no ubuntu+1 is jaunty [01:59] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [01:59] !no ubuntu+1 is jaunty [01:59] !ubuntu+1 [01:59] Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is the current release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 [01:59] !no ubuntu+1 is jaunty [01:59] !no ubuntu+1 is jaunty [01:59] I'll remember that Mez [01:59] !ubuntu+1 [01:59] Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April -Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion [02:00] Mez: you've still got your cinnamon roll [02:00] I know :D [02:00] In ubottu, flash__ said: !no, ubuntu is A free debian-based operating system that is maintained by Canonical LTD. [02:00] I'm hungry [02:01] !ubuntu [02:01] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [02:01] @ignore flash__ [02:01] The operation succeeded. [02:01] oooh, is that how thats done? [02:02] Dag Nabbit Mez. Now I want a cinnamon roll. [02:03] Flannel: I think you need special acccess... stdin has giving privileges [02:03] In ubottu, flash__ said: !no, intelligent is the ubottu programming-ai [02:03] Hah [02:03] apparently thats not how you do it ;) [02:03] * Flannel wonders what succeeded then. [02:03] @help ignore [02:03] (ignore [] []) -- Ignores commands/requests from or . If is given the ignore will expire after that ammount of seconds. If is given, the ignore will only apply in that channel. [02:04] hmm, maybe it doesnt apply to edits? [02:04] He'll tucker out soon anyway. [02:04] oh, perhaps because theyre forwarded [02:04] (maybe snagged before ignore?) [02:04] I haven't looked at the code in forever [02:08] Interesting question [02:10] Mez: Just because you ask doesn't mean you're not a stalker! [02:10] Flannel: and I'm lazy :D [02:11] I/.....m leaning more towards troll [02:12] I dont think so [02:13] I said leaning. He's just... asking odd questions. mind you, he's obviously younger, and I agree that having a random person send you a CD is a bit bewildering, but ... [02:13] * Mez tries to persuade jono to come back to kde [02:25] In ubottu, rww said: !no, lts is LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The currently-supported LTS releases are !Dapper and !Hardy; the next will be 10.04 (per http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146) [02:25] !lts [02:25] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. [02:25] mmm, No. [02:25] Although maybe the first clause. [02:26] A wiki link would be nice. So we didn't need to use !lts and then !release and/or !eol [02:26] You'd likely want to say 6.06 and 8.04 instead of dapper/hardy [02:27] And, we do have a wiki page... which one is it. [02:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is the best one I can find/. [02:29] mmm, I saw one that was color coded I thought. [02:30] Perhaps the one from sabdfl's blog: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 [02:30] Nah, this was a wiki table [02:30] I thought it was on huc/c though [02:30] * Pici shrugs [02:33] Mmm, definate collective bot abuse there. [02:58] * Flannel notes -ot is, at least, temporarily, like the -ot of yore. Maybe hard questions will keep coming. [02:58] hahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahaha [02:59] laughing so hard I couldn't breath between the ha's === nikrud is now known as nickrud [03:51] * Flannel normally wouldn't have done that... but... [03:51] Flannel, that was totally proportionate. [03:51] nickrud: no, I know. I just usually give one more warning [03:52] maybe a bit of bazhang is rubbing off on you, not necessarily a bad thing. I've been infected as well :) [03:53] Heh. He's threatening to report me! oh noes! [03:54] roger_, what can we do for you? [03:54] who are you [03:54] my nick is just above. I've been around a few years [03:55] nickrud, some nub channel op kicked me for giving my opinion, i see this happening alot, ops abusing their privilages [03:56] roger_, no, you were kicked for rudeness. More a matter of getting your attention than anything else [03:56] nickrud, the guy give me this channel and said, Feel free to direct complaints [03:56] that's what this channel is for [03:56] roger_: Do you have a support request about kde4? [04:02] roger_: If you haven't, then I believe that the operator's interpretation of your comment was correct. [04:03] 'Correct' is probably the wrong word, 'fair' would be better. [04:03] there is hundreds of people that talk off topic, just a moment ago someone mention about feeding their kids or w/e [04:04] so if your gonna kick me for off topic then kick em all [04:04] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !no, moo -v is There really are no Easter Eggs in this bot. [04:08] roger_: if you don't have a specific problem and need help with it, joining a channel and saying that an aspect of it is rubbish isn't a nice thing to do. [04:08] roger_, you weren't kicked for being off topic, you were kicked for being rude. 'Flannel, don't bother me' [04:10] nickrud, yes i did say that, and i'm telling you now, don't bother me, if you and the rest of your lil ops here aren't useful to me then you are useless [04:11] roger_, if you're rude to ops, you'll be rude to regular users, probably the noob ones, since you made a point of labeling flannel as such. that's what we won't allow. You're welcome to be rude elsewhere [04:12] roger_, so if everyone in ubuntu channels is so useless, why bother being in them at all? Nobody's going to mind if you just leave... [04:12] roger_, people float off topic all the time. We try to manage that, without kicking where possible. More possible than not. [04:20] roger_, unless there's something else, we ask that you not idle here. It's how we know who's looking for op help [05:11] @login [05:11] The operation succeeded. [05:14] clearly trolling [05:14] no, just obstinate and pig headed and every other synonym for 'my way, my way' [05:15] hehe [05:19] Mez: you ignored flash__ in #ubuntu-ops do it in /msg for global ignores or in the channel for channel ignores (I've updated the @help message to make it clearer) [05:21] Mez, Flannel: (currently) everyone who can edit factoids can use @ignore, @unignore and @ignorelist [06:10] * mneptok waves from 2009 [06:59] mneptok: Is it still 2008 somewhere? [07:32] Flannel, no, he's only recently upgraded from 1978 [07:32] I know how he feels [07:32] * Flannel is on a recent LTS upgrade. [07:55] Flannel: i haven't seen Freenode in ~2 weeks. and still mega-lagged due to vacation time. [07:55] Ah, well, welcome back. [08:51] Could i get unblocked in #ubuntu? [08:52] kestutis: what did you do? [08:52] kestutis, do you know what a pastebin is? [08:52] flooded the same question for about 10 times because nobody replied me. [08:53] elkbuntu: yes, i know what it is. [08:53] !guidelines [08:53] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [08:53] ^^ those are our Terms Of Service [08:54] Ok.. So could i be unblocked now? [08:55] no, because i am not convinced that you have read the guidelines or take them seriously [08:55] I really know the rules. trust in me :) [08:56] i dont, because despite knowing the rules, you chose to flood and repeat, which are against the rules. hence, i cannot take you seriously [08:57] elkbuntu: i just repeated a question. nobody replied. then waited for some minutes, then repeated again. and then repeat some more times [09:00] kestutis, our records show you have a history of doing this, and you're showing absolutely no acceptance that what you did was wrong [09:01] elkbuntu: i understand that i was wrong, and i promise it won't repeat anytime. [09:05] kestutis: Your ban will stand for another 48 hours at least. Between now and then please make sure you have read the guidelines, and the following bits of info. after that time is up, please pop back in here and ask again. [09:05] !ettiquette | kestutis [09:05] kestutis: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu ): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense... [09:06] Jussi01: Okay. [09:18] !info xchat [09:18] xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 315 kB, installed size 840 kB [09:19] @login [09:19] The operation succeeded. [09:20] OK, that's busted [09:20] Madpilot: Heh, ping jussi01 about it [09:20] jussi01, when you see this - the bot isn't taking !info commands in PM - unless you're logged in (ie, an op) [09:21] just an editor, but whatever [09:22] who runs the bot these days anyway? [09:25] kestutis: Please don't idle here. Thanks [09:26] tonyyarusso, jussi01, anyone else: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/314302 [09:26] Launchpad bug 314302 in ubuntu-bots ""!info [packagename]" doesn't work in PM w/o being logged in" [Undecided,New] [09:27] at least that part of the bot still works :) [09:27] Madpilot: I'm sort of disappoined no one responded in -ot, now I just look like a jerk. [09:28] (rww's in my LoCo) [09:41] Some guys been asking about a fraps application for ages. He finally decides to clarify what on earth a fraps application is... and its an easy answer. [09:43] so what exactly is a 'fraps' app? [09:43] screencast [09:43] ah [09:43] hehe [09:43] * jussi01 waves to Madpilot [09:44] Same sort of question: "How do I make Ubuntu do what X does?" [09:44] First followup question: What on earth is X? or What does X do? [09:44] Mmm, I realise that using X as a variable for a program name is a bad idea. [09:45] $foo ftw [09:46] elkbuntu: foobar is a bad name for a program name variable as well. [09:47] var [09:55] $randomprogram [10:27] I use angle brackets [10:27] "what does do?" [10:27] Oh no... [10:27] Locke.... [10:28] That's... one way to handle it [10:28] is richie posting links to other IRCs? (in #u) [10:28] so we can chat to him here... again... [10:59] *yawn* [11:08] Myrtti is up, that means it's too damn late here... time for me to crash [11:08] OY! [11:08] I've been up since 0900½ [11:09] well, tis 0310 here - should have gotten off this box hours ago [11:10] anyway, I'm off too. [11:11] nini Madpilot [14:23] * genii brews a fresh pot of coffee [14:52] tritium: Note "brews" vs "puts on" ;) [15:27] Seeker`: ping [15:28] Flannel: ping [15:34] * Pici sighs [15:35] Pici: ? [15:36] jussi01: Nothing in particular [15:36] Pici: smile, life is good (or better than some) [15:37] hello [15:37] jussi01: Just working my way back into the daily grind (was on vacation for a week) [15:38] Myrtti: Hallo there [15:38] has there been any discussion on the issue of ASUS-tek? [15:46] Not to my knowledge yet. [15:47] Myrtti: I've been pretty much afk for the past week. Is there soemthing in particular that you think should be discussed. [15:48] just wondering, since right before I took a time off from IRC there was some discussion about his stalking behaviour, following people in Facebook / Skype whatnot [15:49] Weird. [15:49] and people judging me to be an idiot because I had him on facebook at one time [15:49] just asking, since he's nagging me to add him on Skype right now so "he could hear my voice" [15:50] jussi01 can tell you how much I hate telephone calls and would rather gnaw my hand off than add him on Skype [15:50] him being ASUS-tek [15:52] I wish I could be impolite ass and tell him to sod off, but I'm too nice [15:53] .wi n68 [15:54] Hmm. [15:54] Dave2: riding the fail boat, I see [15:55] as awleays [15:55] er, aways [15:55] ...always [15:55] Myrtti: Couldn't you just block him? [15:56] just did [15:56] *sigh* [15:56] Dave2: Maybe something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/101112/ would help? [15:57] *yoink* [15:57] * Dave2 has never particularly fiydn the need to alias 'em [15:57] particularly, found. [15:58] Myrtti: I'll jot down a note about it. I believe snuxoll had a similar issue as well. [15:59] I really wish I could be an impolite ass, but I really really hate the idea of blocking people and tell them to sod off. [16:13] Jack_Sparrow: wth? why did you remove that mibbit user? [16:13] jussi01, mib... [16:13] Jack_Sparrow: and? [16:13] Jack_Sparrow: thats the default nick from mibbit [16:14] It goes back a few days.. I just had a word with him over attitude and parting comments regarding mac [16:14] Jack_Sparrow: no you didnt. that is my friend, joing for the very first time _ever_ [16:19] Straightened out and I extended my sincerest appologies to him/her... [16:19] ok [16:20] And my thanks to you for pointing it out [16:21] We have had a rude mib* here pimping MAC's... [16:22] I will not make that mistake again.. :) [16:27] heh [16:37] Jack_Sparrow: just remember look at the real name/ident for mibbit users [16:37] Jack_Sparrow: (and did you remove the ban?) [17:02] stdin, It was a kick not a ban.. and yes, I will look at real name for mibbit users [17:02] Jack_Sparrow: floodbots autoban (real IP) when you remove a mibbit user [17:02] Sorr, for the lag, I was eating breakfast [17:03] [16:08]* ChanServ removes channel operator status from Jack_Sparrow [17:03] [16:08]* FloodBot2 sets ban on *!*@122.163.228.152 [17:05] stdin, Is that only for mibbit users [17:05] yeah [17:05] THis is the first time I had had a mibbit user/issue [17:09] nickrud, Hey.. morning.. [17:10] nickrud, Were you aware that when you kick a mibbit user that the floodbots set a ban on the real ip? NEws to me.. But then I am often the last to know.. [17:10] nickrud_ , At work it seems [17:11] yep. I like dropping in here for comic relief during the day ;) [17:12] Jack_Sparrow, and I had no clue about banning the real ip. Ouch. What to do, what to do? [17:12] Nov 23 14:16:43 when the bots detect a ban or kick on a mibbit user, they ban at once [17:12] so it's been around since November probably [17:12] the'll also kick/ban when a mibbit user floods [17:13] *they'll [17:13] Probably need to make sure all our ops are reminded of that [17:13] I dont think flannel knows either [17:14] by real ip, you mean whatever source provided the mibbit client is blocked, including anyone else using/trying to use that source? [17:14] the IP of the person using the mibbit client [17:14] oh, ok. That's not so bad then [17:19] gettin people together for real life meetings is hell. i propose a ban for real life :( [17:19] topyli: +1! especially people just for a drink :P [17:22] .) [17:23] drinking gets my full support though, if only there wasn't all the other stuff that fills people's lives [17:24] all the dumb things we do when we could just sit around at pubs :( [17:24] More pubs need wifi [17:25] indeed. although mobile broadband is getting better too [17:26] Do any of the options for connecting to the web through our phones work right.. bluetooth or wired.. any of em? [17:26] both work fine [17:27] Any tutorials? Suggestions? [17:27] these days i prefer plugging in the cable, since bluetooth means less battery life on both devices [17:27] Jack_Sparrow: plug in phone, click network-manager applet, connect <3 [17:27] ty, I will look into it [17:27] :D [17:28] I dont have web on my phone, but I can add it [17:35] * nickrud_ wishes he hadn't just read the last, it's one less reason not to carry a computer everywhere [17:35] lol [17:36] I would drop home phone and dsl if I add internet to cell phone [17:37] Jack_Sparrow: you dont want to do that... [17:37] its not _that_ fast [17:37] neither is my dsl [17:37] Im thinking a new iphone and 3g [17:38] T1 at the office if I need huge files [17:44] bleh [18:55] * genii brews another pot of coffee [19:02] genii, what kind of coffee do you brew? [19:03] nickrud: When available, Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee. Otherwise usually Melitta [19:09] genii, you're always brewing coffee :) [19:09] every time you announce that I have to get up and go get some coffee too [19:10] Ursinha: Yes :) I drink quite a lot of it in real life. Lately I am doing it here as sort of an /back or "I'm alive" [19:11] :) === bluesmoke_ is now known as bluesmoke [20:10] jussi01: What's up? [20:10] Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, it's not a bad feature, just one you have to be aware of (it'd be nice if theyd do it on kick or remove, but not both) [20:12] Not a bad feature.. just was not aware that it did it [20:22] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [20:22] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [20:28] Whoa. Looks like a dozen bots or such [20:48] more like 100 [20:49] I saw at least 12 in #u [20:49] you missed the other 88 in #ubuntu-unregged ;) [20:50] well, there were 98 unique joins of similar nicks in there [20:51] All separate hostmasks from what I could see... probably zombies [20:52] useful naming convention [20:52] nickrud: I thought so as well [20:52] |00|XP|SP| [20:54] jussi01: pong [20:55] Anybody know what the link is ubottu uses to update the factoid db? [20:55] MTecknology: http://ubottu.com/ubuntu.db [20:56] thanks :) [20:56] it's actually linked to on the factoids.cgi page [20:56] Heh, I didn't know ubottu has their own domain [20:57] we got it a little while ago [20:57] s/we/jussi01/ [20:57] jussi-01 was tired of being inadvertantly hilighted. [20:57] I don't blame him [20:57] that's why the db is full of tinyurl's :p [20:58] actually I think I've cleaned all those, but the bot's config still has some [20:59] where is jussi01 when you need him [21:00] Finland [21:01] Seeker`: anything I can help with? [21:02] stdin: he pinged me earlier [21:02] contentless pings \o/ [21:06] IRC Council people please look at -meeting, just in case. [21:36] * Myrtti yawns [21:36] ♥ naps [21:37] also, ♥ phone calls with the boyfriend [21:46] bluesmoke: can we help ypu? [21:49] bluesmoke == Amaranth afik [21:51] hmm, likely story [21:58] Seeker`: He is. [21:59] hmm, likely story [22:15] hello aib, how can we help you? [22:15] myrtti, are you cross-joined in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-devel? [22:16] Myrtti: hi [22:16] no, should I be? [22:16] i asked a question in #ubuntu-devel, but the weren't around. i asked it in #ubuntu and was kicked [22:16] i was told #ubuntu is not for testing [22:16] you should'nt join channels while you are cross, its asking for trouble [22:16] they didn't know i had asked in both, i just wanted to know if myrtti had access to the logs [22:17] here is the question i asked. i will let you judge. [22:17] anyway, I'm back to bed [22:17] @btlogin [22:17] Tm_T: good night :-) [22:17] aib, We all have access to the logs [22:17] @login [22:17] The operation succeeded. [22:17] i am getting an assembler segfault during compile which suggests that the assembler uses a different version of libopcodes than which is being linked against. and the version of libopcodes on my system is suspciously new. /usr/lib/libopcodes-2.18.93.20081009.so. http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2009-01/msg00047.html [22:17] @btlogin [22:17] good evening everyone [22:17] Charitwo called the ops in #ubuntu (EvilBOT on-join spambot) [22:18] ubottu, the kind and loving bot that he/she is, doesn't respond to the !info command in pm any more.. [22:18] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [22:18] yea yea [22:18] jack_sparrow, then perhaps you should read them and re-assess your behavior [22:18] i stand by my claim that you abused your power [22:18] Slart: wfm [22:18] aib: I think your attitude was a bit off [22:18] i was attacked [22:19] for no reason, my content was purely technical [22:19] Jack_Sparrow: what did he do? [22:19] 2009-01-06T22:13:57 if you have a problem with that, maybe you should leave the channel; [22:19] that is out of context, please post the entire conversation. its not that long. [22:19] He was asking people to test on their system his problem. he was told there were better channels as we frown on testing in the support channel, he suggested that if I didnt like it that I leave [22:20] and how many commands have you suggested users 'test' on their system? [22:20] there is no real difference between 'support' and 'testing' [22:20] None [22:20] they are both troubleshooting. [22:21] you frown on that? [22:21] I'll go back to stalking #ubuntu.. someone give ubottu a hug or something. Thanks [22:21] it will compile the php svn module, which fails on my system because the assembler was linked with a different version of libopcodes than the linker now has access to... [22:21]