[00:22] <null__> Question:  How do I restart USB?
[00:24] <steve|xp> hmmm
[00:25] <steve|xp> xubuntu doesn't seem to be recognizing my 256MB I put in my notebook
[00:31] <calamari> steve|xp, does the bios recognize it?
[02:32] <luis__> hi guys
[02:32] <luis__> i am looking for a GNU/LINUX MASTER
[02:32] <luis__> the reasn is as follows:
[02:34] <luis__> i have had install 2 days ago xubuntu 8.10,  in order to use my epson stylus cx5600 i had to reinstall win and fo course i did reinstall again xubuntu
[02:36] <luis__> but then while surfing on internet i notice it was as slow as win so i did a check on win and to my surprise it really improve the speed on win, so the question is: why is this happening? isnt GNU/LINUX suppose to be a lot faster thna win???
[02:36] <source> luis__, so, what is the problem?
[02:36] <luis__> just say it
[02:36] <luis__> speed
[02:36] <source> wait
[02:37] <luis__> i did install on my sis and is fast, but in my pc is somehow really slow
[02:38] <source> luis__, ok, I need more information
[02:38] <source> memory, processor?
[02:38] <luis__> my pc has 1 Mega Ram 120 GB hd del evo d510 sff pentium 4
[02:39] <luis__> 2.e Ghz
[02:39] <luis__> 2.4
[02:39] <Sinister> my vol is so low i can barly hear it with head phones over my pc fan what could cause this ?
[02:40] <source> 1 MB!!!?
[02:40] <source> 1MB ram!!!
[02:40] <luis__> got confuse
[02:40] <luis__> sorry
[02:40] <source> ok
[02:40] <source> so...
[02:40] <luis__> how can i check the specification?
[02:41] <source> free -m
[02:41] <source> aplicacions - system - gnome-system-manager
[02:42] <luis__> thks ok memory 1001.4 MiB Pentium 4 CPU 2.40GhZ
[02:42] <source> monitor
[02:43] <source> system monitor
[02:43] <source> :P
[02:44] <source> luis__, the problem is for memory or processor
[02:44] <source> ???
[02:44] <luis__> it says nothing about monitor
[02:44] <luis__> i dont know
[02:44] <luis__> all i know is the speed in xubuntu is really slow like 1 minute to download google web page
[02:45] <luis__> and if do the same page on win it takes a blink of an eye it use to be the other way around
[02:47] <luis__> ok like i was telling you source i dont know because if i want to download lets say google web page it takes about a minute but if i try the same on win it takes a blink of an eye and it use to be the other way around
[02:47] <luis__> mi speed connection is 1 Mega
[02:50] <luis__> so what would be the problem? amen is really weird that it only happens with xubuntu and it use to with win but now win has improve and xubuntu just dont i love xubuntu but sped is not nice at all
[02:53] <luis__> source would you take ver and see what the problem is ?????
[02:58] <source> luis__, ping www.google.com
[03:00] <luis__> lot of info
[03:00] <luis__> wich one should i give yu?
[03:01] <luis__> ok here some of it:
[03:01] <source> luis__, there you can see the speed of google respond you
[03:01] <luis__> PING www.l.google.com (74.125.95.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:01] <luis__> 64 bytes from iw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.95.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=121 ms
[03:01] <luis__> 64 bytes from iw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.95.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=119 ms
[03:01] <luis__> 64 bytes from iw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.95.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=238 time=89.5 ms
[03:01] <luis__> 64 bytes from iw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.95.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=238 time=123 ms
[03:01] <luis__> 64 bytes from iw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.95.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=238 time=112 ms
[03:01] <source> luis__, what browser are using?
[03:01] <source> firefox?
[03:02] <luis__> firefox
[03:02] <luis__> is the "fastest" cause semonkey and epiphany are even slower
[03:02] <source> T_T
[03:02] <source> but the problem is your conexion
[03:03] <source> your memory is good
[03:03] <luis__> but see i got install firefox as well in win and there is very fast
[03:03] <source> right?
[03:03] <source> if you see gnome monitor
[03:03] <source> how many memory are using
[03:03] <luis__> no i have 1MB
[03:03] <source> 1GB
[03:03] <source> 1GB = 1024 MB
[03:04] <luis__> in memory and swap history says 299.4 MiB (29.9%) of 1001.4 MiB
[03:05] <source> that's good
[03:05] <source> I think the problem is your conection
[03:05] <luis__> yes i told you win is to be this way but now became really fast and this happens only with xubuntu
[03:05] <source> have you ever tried with another browser?
[03:06] <source> for example, opera
[03:06] <tascil> Heya again.  So I'm installing 8.10 on my box with an nvidia 8400GS video card.  I can only boot from the live CD in safe graphics mode, since not doing so will either drop me to a command-line or spew garbage on the monitor.  I need help installing the nvidia drivers, since I've tried both synaptic and envy and neither works.
[03:06] <luis__> i have seamonkey and epiphany
[03:06] <luis__> but they are even worst
[03:06] <source> try with opera
[03:06] <luis__> the worst is epiphany
[03:07] <luis__> but is weird cause this is happening only with xubuntu wind did really improve
[03:07] <source> !nvidia
[03:07] <source> tascil, there
[03:07] <luis__> what do you mean??
 try with opera
[03:08] <source> if opera doesn't work...
[03:08] <source> T_T
[03:08] <source> I hope works
[03:08] <source> xD
[03:09] <tascil> source: I've tried that.  It says that the drivers are installed and enabled, but trying to boot into the system still gives me reported configuration errors and I still have to boot into low-graphics mode.
[03:10] <luis__> no such thing as that on synaptic
[03:10] <luis__> no opera browser on synaptic
[03:11] <luis__> nothing also by terminal
[03:12] <luis__> whats T_T surce?????
[03:12] <luis__> opera nothing and T_T either
[03:13] <luis__> none of them on synaptic not on terminal
[03:15] <luis__> so any of the master want o see whats wrong in here pls?? this is a good challeng for you guys and also you help me :p mi ip address is: 10.240.130.26 ni invite to take control over my machine and see why is his happening would you pls???
[03:21] <craigbass1976> When I want to shut down, I have to go Applications -> Quit, then shut down form the login screen.  How can I do it in one step?  Without sudo...
[03:38] <ball> hello j1mc
[03:38] <j1mc> hi ball
[04:28]  * likemindead is away: I'm busy so STFU.
[04:28]  * likemindead is back (gone 00:00:05)
[05:09] <nikolam> i got a bit not ordinary question.
[05:09] <nikolam> I made encrypted swapfile (swap mounted as file)
[05:10] <nikolam> "But I got message Starting early crypto disks.."
[05:10] <nikolam> That lasts for ,say, at least 3 minutes upon system start
[05:10] <nikolam> Does anyone know how to reduce that time?
[06:12] <R1cochet> y is your swap encrypted?
[06:13] <ball> just in case l;;-)
[06:29] <ball> hello source
[06:36] <ZeZu> dear god the dev packages are screwed in xubuntu-ppc64 for ps3
[06:37] <ZeZu> the stock compiler has a bug where it sign extends unsigned long long's and the cell-sdk goes nuts about bad libraries
[06:38] <spasticteapot> I have a very strange problem.
[06:38] <spasticteapot> Under the default settings, Synaptic Package Monitor is not listing many useful packages.
[08:07] <R1cochet> TheSheep: are you around?
[08:07] <R1cochet> question about qemu
[08:18] <Muhammad_Saad> Which is the best tool to create a custom live CD? I also want to add a few custom scripts.
[08:25] <R1cochet> try reconstructor
[08:25] <Muhammad_Saad> will it allow me to add custom scripts?
[08:25] <Muhammad_Saad> and is it easy to use?
[08:26] <R1cochet> i dont know, yes: http://ubuntusoftware.info/distro.html , http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=39
[08:27] <R1cochet> http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=33&func=select&id=5
[08:32] <generalsnus> Hi! We use Ubuntu for our students at our school, I want to block certain websites, Ive tried to edit /etc/hosts.. but ubuntu dosent seem to use that at all.. both hosts.conf and nsswitch tells me its looking in the hosts first.. but still it dosent seem like its beeing used at all
[08:33] <rhavenn> generalsnus: install a web proxy would be my suggestion...invisible if you want
[08:34] <rhavenn> generalsnus: or assuming you run a central DNS server and block outbound DNS just set up central "fake" zones and direct those do localhost or whatever
[08:34] <generalsnus> ive tried "squid"..but thats just too much of "configs" to be done.. i just want to block a bunch of adresses
[08:34] <generalsnus> i have a list of 800 urls i wanna block
[08:35] <rhavenn> generalsnus: just force all DNS requests to go through a central DNS server..firewall all outbound DNS requests not from the DNS server
[08:35] <rhavenn> write a quick script to generate zone files
[08:36] <generalsnus> we use a w2k3 for DNS.. but i havent used it much.. i dont really know how to set it up/change stuff
[08:36] <rhavenn> generalsnus: how many linux workstations are we talking?
[08:37] <rhavenn> generalsnus: how are you determining that it ignores /etc/hosts ?
[08:38] <Muhammad_Saad> R1cochet, which one is easier? Ubuntu Customization Kit or Reconstructor?
[08:38] <generalsnus> well.. in hosts i write  0.0.0.0 www.wanttoblock.com
[08:39] <generalsnus> alas ive tried a lot of stuff in hosts file
[08:39] <smyru> Hello, is there a way to stop xfce-terminal from auto changing directory when new tab is created?
[08:40] <rhavenn> generalsnus: works for me
[08:40] <rhavenn> generalsnus: you running NIS or anything special? you edit /etc/resolv.conf or anything?
[08:41] <rhavenn> generalsnus: howabout /etc/nssswitch.com ?
[08:42] <R1cochet> smyru: what do u mean?
[08:42] <R1cochet> when i open a new tab it stays in the same directory as the last tab
[08:43] <generalsnus> resolv.conf = has x2 nameservers listed.   nsswitch has hosts: files
[08:45] <rhavenn> generalsnus: well, that should read hosts:    files dns
[08:46] <rhavenn> generalsnus: again, how are you determining that the block doesn't work? using ping or dig or a browser?
[08:46] <generalsnus> it does.. just pointing out that fikles was first in line
[08:46] <rhavenn> generalsnus: l
[08:46] <generalsnus> files'
[08:46] <rhavenn> generalsnus: *k
[08:46] <generalsnus> also.. yeah..using browser to test
[08:46] <smyru> R1cochet: when you have a tab open in terminal and you are in lets say dir/a, when you hit Ctrl+T to create new tab, the new tab starts in dir/a
[08:47] <smyru> I dont like it , I would like to start in home by default
[08:47] <rhavenn> generalsnus: try doing ping www.blockedsite.com   does it show the local IP?
[08:48] <generalsnus> sec
[08:49] <generalsnus> if i ping.. i get respnse from 127.0.0.1
[08:49] <rhavenn> generalsnus: also, i wouldn't use 0.0.0.0..better is 127.0.X.X  replacing X with whatever valid IPs you want all 127.0.0.0/8 are mapped to local interface
[08:49] <generalsnus> hosts: 0.0.0.0 www.blocked.site
[08:50] <rhavenn> generalsnus: have you restarted the browser since changing? ie: did the browser cache old DNS info?
[08:50] <rhavenn> generalsnus: assuming Firefox?
[08:50] <generalsnus> yep
[08:50] <generalsnus> tried restarting etc
[08:51] <generalsnus> it still resolves the adress
[08:51] <rhavenn> generalsnus: well, firefox should honor /etc/hosts and /etc/nsswitch.conf
[08:51] <rhavenn> generalsnus: the files comes before the dns in nsswitch right?
[08:51] <generalsnus> what other file can force it to use dns before files?
[08:52] <generalsnus> yes
[08:52] <R1cochet> rhavenn: umm would firestarter work?
[08:52] <R1cochet> Option to whitelist or blacklist traffic
[08:52] <R1cochet> ""
[08:52] <rhavenn> R1cochet: never heard of it / used it
[08:52] <R1cochet> its a firewall for linux
[08:52] <generalsnus> i tried it.. but i couldnt get it to block any sites
[08:52] <rhavenn> generalsnus: i don't know...that should really be it
[08:53] <rhavenn> R1cochet: that's going to do IP only blocks
[08:53] <generalsnus> yeah.. and i have a list of 800 url's to block :p
[08:54] <R1cochet> u cant just out in the web address?
[08:54] <R1cochet> put*
[08:55] <rhavenn> R1cochet: no, not for iptables / firewalls in general
[08:55] <R1cochet> ok
[08:55] <generalsnus> damn.. hosts would be so simple
[08:56] <rhavenn> generalsnus: if ping works then firefox is being screwy...what happens when you try lynx or just wget ?
[08:56] <TheSheep> another option is to force a proxy and do all the filtering on it
[08:56] <TheSheep> it's the most common I think
[08:56] <rhavenn> TheSheep: yeah, we covered that :)
[08:57] <TheSheep> ah, ok
[08:57] <generalsnus> well.. we currently use a proxy for our school.. but we cant administer it...  also its updated very seldom
[08:58] <TheSheep> set up your own
[08:58] <TheSheep> !info squid
[08:59] <R1cochet> is there an option in firefox to block sites? or an add-on?
[08:59] <rhavenn> still be nice to figure out why firefox seems to be "ignoring" hosts file..it should work fine...used it plenty of times
[08:59] <TheSheep> rhavenn: probably it has the resolution already cached
[09:00] <rhavenn> TheSheep: he says he restarted browser
[09:00] <generalsnus> ive even tried to reinstall ff.. deleting profile folders etc
[09:00] <TheSheep> then no idea
[09:01] <generalsnus> id love to use squid aswell.. but it seemed like quite a hassle to set up for a newbie like me
[09:01] <TheSheep> one trick to block everything except for a certain site (used in kiosk) is to enable proxy in firefox, and put the sites you want accessible in the 'no proxy' field
[09:01] <TheSheep> but that's whitelisting, not blacklisting
[09:02] <generalsnus> yeah.. thats not gonna work
[09:03] <rhavenn> generalsnus: we are editing /etc/hosts and running firefox on the same box, right? :)
[09:05] <generalsnus> yup
[09:08] <rhavenn> generalsnus: the only thing for DNS is /etc/hosts   /etc/resolv.conf and  /etc/nsswitch.conf    as long as   /etc/nsswitch.conf has    hosts:  files dns    (with files first) it should honor it..ping seems to work correctly, so i'm kinda lost
[09:08] <rhavenn> generalsnus: how stock of a xubuntu install is this? any other changes / installs done?
[09:09] <generalsnus> 8.10 Installed LTSP/NFS/Likewise   nothing that should change those setttings i belive
[09:12] <rhavenn> generalsnus: firefox doesn't have a proxy setting set does it?
[09:13] <rhavenn> generalsnus: preferences ->advanced tab -> network tab -> connections button
[09:15] <generalsnus> its on automatic... we need to use   wpad.headoffice.com.. so thats set up in the dns...
[09:15] <generalsnus> but still.. hosts should be honored
[09:15] <rhavenn> generalsnus: well, a proxy will bypass any local DNS settings
[09:15] <rhavenn> generalsnus: the proxy is doing all the DNS resolution
[09:16] <rhavenn> generalsnus: no, it shouldn't
[09:18] <generalsnus> sec
[09:22] <generalsnus> Well it does work on a windows computer.. if i edit the host file.. neither FF or Explorer can reach the site
[09:22] <generalsnus> so it does seem that local files is first in line after all
[09:23] <generalsnus> just not on my nix box
[09:25] <rhavenn> generalsnus: well, windows != nix :)
[09:25] <generalsnus> hehe
[09:26] <generalsnus> would think that firefox behaved somwhat the same tho
[09:27] <rhavenn> generalsnus: in your xubuntu set proxy to "none", restart browser and see what happens
[09:27] <generalsnus> then i get no internet..cant reach any sites
[09:27] <rhavenn> generalsnus: yeah, but the error should be different
[09:28] <rhavenn> generalsnus: you have a internal only webserver? edit your hosts file to point blocked URL at that IP
[09:29] <generalsnus> sec
[09:31] <generalsnus> yep.. that works..
[09:32] <rhavenn> as in...disabled proxy, update hosts and firefox goes to your internal server?
[09:32] <generalsnus> yep
[09:33] <rhavenn> so, it's the proxy resolution
[09:35] <generalsnus> sigh.. i dont see how this work.. was really confused.. when i saw that host file worked before proxy on winxp.. confusing
[09:36] <rhavenn> generalsnus: without access to the proxy server it won't :(
[09:38] <rhavenn> generalsnus: firefox uses the native TCP/IP stack..so it will follow the OS conventions on how resolution will work
[09:39] <generalsnus> so there is no-way of forcing resolutions on hosts file before dns when using proxy?
[09:40] <rhavenn> generalsnus: check this key in about:config  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.proxy.socks_remote_dns
[09:44] <rhavenn> generalsnus: also, Windows should honor the proxy setting as well..and let the proxy do DNS AFAIK
[09:44] <generalsnus> FF is set to: Perform DNS lookups on the client.
[09:45] <rhavenn> generalsnus: yeah, i guess proxy overrides that
[09:45] <generalsnus> tried both settings btw..
[09:48] <rhavenn> generalsnus: well, as it stands i "think" your proxy stuff is working correctly and without access to the proxy server you're kinda SOL
[09:48] <rhavenn> generalsnus: the whole point of a proxy is to centralize everything so people can't easily circumvent
[09:50] <generalsnus> ok.. before contacting the admin that runs this proxy..  what should i ask for?  ask if its possible that the proxy lets me use local files first?
[09:51] <rhavenn> generalsnus: no, it's the browser on the client side that makes this decision
[09:51] <rhavenn> generalsnus: you would have to make the DNS / hosts blackholes on the proxy server
[09:52] <rhavenn> generalsnus: or wherever it gets it's DNS from
[09:57] <rhavenn> generalsnus: signing off..good luck
[11:04] <bisli> hey all, i'm trying to get pyNeighbourhood to mount samba servers in xubuntu. Anyone managed this
[14:16] <disorderjoy> hi
[14:17] <disorderjoy> I don't speak english very well
[14:17] <disorderjoy> in xubuntu 8.10 I have to change language on keybord...I need an italian keyboard
[14:23] <TheSheep> disorderjoy: in terminal run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup' and choose the layout you want
[14:24] <TheSheep> it will ask you for your password
[14:25] <disorderjoy> thank you very much
[14:28] <disorderjoy> mmm I nedd the language-type of keyboard and no the model...
[15:03] <DasEi> has anyone a link to a (hardware-wise) minimalistic ubuntu vm ?
[15:07] <DasEi> disorderjoy: hum ?
[15:12] <The_Sorrow> hi, i'd need a hand over here... my usermanagement seems to be broken :-/
[15:13] <The_Sorrow> i can't do anything over there somehow :-/
[15:14] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, have you pressed Unlock?
[15:14] <The_Sorrow> there comes an error message
[15:14] <The_Sorrow> i'll copy it
[15:14] <The_Sorrow> Could not authenticate - An unexpected error has occurred.
[15:14] <The_Sorrow> i can just click "OK"
[15:15] <The_Sorrow> i tried starting user-admin with sudo, but there is the same problem
[15:15] <The_Sorrow> users-admin, sorry, typo
[15:15] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, and if you run it in a terminal, any messages?
[15:15] <The_Sorrow> as root?
[15:15] <The_Sorrow> ** (users-admin:28210): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '28210'
[15:15] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, no as a normal user
[15:16] <vinnl> (Well, doesn't really matter)
[15:16] <wesolek> can anybody tell me how to set the global proxy settings in xubuntu 8.10?
[15:16] <wesolek> hello
[15:17] <The_Sorrow> vinnl: ** (users-admin:28667): CRITICAL **: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[15:17] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, has this only occurred this session or have you experienced this before?
[15:17] <The_Sorrow> it's on this machine, so no network-problems or whatsoever
[15:18] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, no I mean, has it occured to you after a reboot?
[15:18] <The_Sorrow> also before... uhm, was about 6 days ago i think
[15:18] <vinnl> wesolek, you might be able to do that in nm-connection-editor
[15:19] <wesolek> should I just type that in the terminal?
[15:19] <The_Sorrow> vinnl: i tried adding a new user before this happened, it also succeded, but somehow, since then it just won't work
[15:19] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, then I wouldn't really know how to solve it, sorry :(. You might try and seek help in #ubuntu for this, as it doesn't really sound restricted to Xubuntu to me
[15:20] <vinnl> wesolek, yep
[15:20] <vinnl> (wesolek, it's supposed to be in the menu but the developer didn't take Xfce into account...)
[15:20] <wesolek> vinnl, I just did, and I can't see anywhere any proxy settings for that connection
[15:20] <The_Sorrow> users-admin is not a just-XFCE4.0 app? if not, then thanks for the tip, i'll take a look there :)
[15:20] <vinnl> The_Sorrow, nope, it's not
[15:21] <vinnl> wesolek, then I wouldn't know, that sounded like a logical place for it :(
[15:21] <The_Sorrow> ok, thanks for your help :)
[15:21] <vinnl> yw :)
[15:22] <wesolek> vinnl, let me reboot and I will see then, as updates through update manager worked fine, but command: sudo apt-get update, will not connect to any servers
[15:22] <wesolek> brb
[15:31] <wesolek> vinnl, still nothing
[15:31] <wesolek> it won't download the proprietary drivers
[15:32] <vinnl> wesolek, what's the error message?
[15:33] <wesolek> vinnl, no message, just a big error sign
[15:33] <wesolek> but it's not connecting i can see that
[15:33] <vinnl> wesolek, and no Details pane or anything?
[15:34] <wesolek> nope, just OK
[15:34] <wesolek> I can run it again but it takes some time before it returns the error
[15:35] <wesolek> I can give you the error message when I try to run: sudo apt-get update
[15:35] <vinnl> wesolek, ah, that would be good :)
[15:36] <wesolek> so far it only says: 0% [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (194.169.254.10)]
[15:37] <wesolek> still the same
[15:37] <wesolek> oh, hold on... got a message
[15:40] <wesolek> vinnl, I sent you a pvt message
[15:41] <vinnl> wesolek, in Applications->System->Software Sources, when you select "Other..." in "Download from:", and then click "Select Best Server", does it find anything?
[15:42] <wesolek> I've tried that before (found some info on one of the forums) but it didn't make a difference
[15:42] <wesolek> I can try again now :)
[15:43] <vinnl> wesolek, OK, I'm being stupid here :P
[15:43] <wesolek> it says: no suitable server was found
[15:44] <vinnl> wesolek, in Synaptic, you can go to Settings->Preferences, then under the Network tab you can configure your proxy :)
[15:44] <wesolek> please check your internet connection
[15:44] <wesolek> I did that
[15:44] <vinnl> And it still doesn't work? :S
[15:44] <wesolek> nope
[15:45] <wesolek> I did first
[15:45] <wesolek> and it runs the updates from the update manager
[15:45] <wesolek> but not from the terminal
[15:45] <wesolek> and it won't download the drivers from the proprietary drivers
[15:47] <wesolek> brb
[16:00] <wesolek> still nothing :(
[16:00] <wesolek> I just don't know how to change global proxy settings for this connection
[16:01] <wesolek> or any other for that matter lol
[16:01] <wesolek> is there an application that can manage it for me?
[16:01] <vinnl> wesolek, there might be something in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting%20up%20apt-get%20to%20use%20a%20http-proxy
[16:02] <vinnl> wesolek, the "BASH rc method" is apparently global
[16:02] <wesolek> yeah, and that one doesn't work
[16:03] <wesolek> only applications that I can change the settings in work
[16:03] <wesolek> synaptic works as I can change the setting
[16:03] <wesolek> so is firefox
[16:03] <wesolek> I don't understand why x-chat works then, haven't changed anything in here
[16:03] <vinnl> And have you tried the "APT configuration file method"?
[16:09] <wesolek> that link you sent me worked!!!!
[16:09] <wesolek> I thought you meant something else by "BASH rc method"
[16:09] <vinnl> \o/
[16:10] <wesolek> I did what it said and it worked!
[16:10] <wesolek> than you ever so much!!!
[16:10] <vinnl> Well, congrats :)
[16:10] <wesolek> thank you ever so much!!! (I meant)
[16:10] <wesolek> have a great day
[16:10] <vinnl> Same to you :)
[16:21] <wesolek> my joy was too early
[16:21] <wesolek> hardware drivers still won't work
[16:21] <vinnl> Which ones?
[16:22] <wesolek> NVIDIA v.177 (recommended)
[16:22] <wesolek> it won't connect to download
[16:22] <wesolek> I thought a reboot would fix it, it didn't :(
[16:23] <wesolek> I checked it in Synaptics, and it showed that driver as installed
[16:23] <vinnl> wesolek, which method did you follow in the link earlier?
[16:23] <wesolek> bash rc
[16:24] <wesolek> I also thought it was global
[16:24] <wesolek> I think it's only global for applications from terminal
[16:24] <wesolek> or I'm confused
[16:25] <vinnl> That shouldn't be the case
[16:25] <vinnl> Does the Hardware Drivers Manager say which package it's trying to download?
[16:26] <wesolek> it gives me a few options
[16:26] <vinnl> Do you see the name of the recommended package?
[16:26] <wesolek> I managed to install broadcom wireless, but it wasn't trying to download it, just activated it
[16:27] <wesolek> yes, and the recommended one is NVIDIA accelerated graphics drivers (version 177)
[16:27] <wesolek> when I click to activate it, it tries to download & install
[16:27] <vinnl> wesolek, can you show the output from the details pane when you try to activate it?
[16:28] <wesolek> but then it stays on 0% and after a while is shows this little window with that red error sign and an OK button, doesn't display a message
[16:29] <vinnl> Hmm...
[16:29] <wesolek> running it again
[16:29] <wesolek> it used to show me a message
[16:29] <wesolek> earlier today
[16:29] <wesolek> but it was just the same connection issue as the apt-get update
[16:31] <vinnl> wesolek, you can try downloading the packages manually... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia%20177&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[16:31] <wesolek> yeah, the same: red error icon and then just "close" button
[16:32] <wesolek> in synaptic?
[16:33] <vinnl> wesolek, no, just using Firefox, and then you can install them manually
[16:33] <wesolek> how do I know which one is the proper one?
[16:33] <jack_j> go to this webpage to find out how to get Xubuntu with Compiz. It Works! http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[16:34] <vinnl> wesolek, you'll need all three packages from [restricted]
[16:34] <wesolek> ok I can try that :)
[16:40] <wesolek> I got this: same version is available in a software channel. You are recommended to install the software from the channel instead.
[16:40] <vinnl> Never mind that, just install :)
[16:40] <wesolek> what's the software channel?
[16:41] <jack_j> a repository or apt list
[16:41] <vinnl> It's also knows as "repositories" or "software sources", it's where Synaptic et al. download the software from
[16:41] <vinnl> (And which you can also access using packages.ubuntu.com :))
[16:42] <wesolek> lol I downloaded those 3 files and run the first one to install. Now it's trying to connect to download additional 3 packages, and of course, it's not connecting only staying at 0%
[16:43] <vinnl> *sigh*
[16:43] <vinnl> wesolek, perhaps you can download those using Synaptic?
[16:44] <wesolek> it returned a message: could not download all required files. Please check your internet connection or installation medium
[16:44] <vinnl> Aaargh!
[16:44] <jack_j> get you firewall right then
[16:44] <wesolek> let me check synaptic
[16:45] <wesolek> jack_j... glad you trying to help but I'm behind proxy server and I don't know how to make xubuntu know that globally
[16:45] <wesolek> this is the problem
[16:45] <jack_j> well get in front of your proxy or set up your proxy.
[16:46] <jack_j> maybe you could use linux mint.
[16:46] <wesolek> it's a university proxy
[16:46] <jack_j> it is another of my favourite linux distros
[16:46] <wesolek> get real jack_j, please
[16:46] <jack_j> well tell ur uni
[16:46] <wesolek> sure I will
[16:46] <jack_j> wesolek u suck
[16:47] <vinnl> Hey, please keep it friendly
[16:47] <wesolek> and you're very helpful jack_j
[16:47] <wesolek> oh don't worry vinnl, I am friendly :)
[16:48] <jack_j> keep the noise down
[16:49] <inntegra> good day 2 u all guys
[16:50] <vinnl> !hi
[16:51] <jack_j> !oh,hi
[16:51] <wesolek> I can't get it to work vinnl
[16:51] <jack_j> !as_in_hello
[16:51] <jack_j> !ok then
[16:51] <inntegra> i need some help pls. i got a laptop toshiba satellite L36-SP1011 i just install xubuntu 8.10 but i got no sound i already set up sound service and i got it at 100% but no sound can some body help me on this pls?????
[16:52] <jack_j> !hello
[16:52] <jack_j> ubottu said hello to me
[16:52] <wesolek> inntegra, I've got the same problem (different laptop though) but right at the moment I've got even bigger issue lol
[16:52] <vinnl> wesolek, ehmm... So now the proxy doesn't work anywhere anymore? Does the file ~/.bashrc still contain your edits?
[16:53] <vinnl> !sound
[16:53] <inntegra> thxs anyone else pls?
[16:53] <inntegra> it is selected
[16:53] <vinnl> inntegra, see some of the links from ubottu  above
[16:53] <jack_j> !becca
[16:53] <wesolek> the proxy works everywhere I set it, vinnl, so the apt-get update works, synaptic works, and updates work
[16:53] <jack_j> !ok
[16:55] <vinnl> wesolek, that's really odd... And you can't install nvidia-glx-177 from Synaptic?
[16:55] <inntegra> theres no alsa options just this: #0: HAD ATI SB AND DEFAULT those are the ones that i haver
[16:56] <wesolek> vinnl... sorry I was just trying to do the kernel one first...
[16:56] <wesolek> brb
[16:56] <jack_j> !hello
[16:57] <wesolek> vinnl, there is only nvidia-177-modaliases
[16:57] <wesolek> and it's installed
[16:58] <vinnl> Hmm... Is that after a quicksearch or did you use the Search button? Quick search has the tendency to not show all results :P
[17:00] <wesolek> normal search did not return anything
[17:01] <vinnl> wesolek, OK, and when you go to Settings->Repositories, is "Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" checked?
[17:01] <vinnl> If not, check it and reload :)
[17:02] <wesolek> it's checked
[17:02] <wesolek> has been
[17:02] <vinnl> :S
[17:02] <vinnl> wesolek, which version of Xubuntu are you using?
[17:03] <wesolek> last one
[17:03] <wesolek> 8.10
[17:03] <wesolek> just downloaded it this morning
[17:03] <vinnl> wesolek, hmm... Perhaps a "Reload" to be sure?
[17:03] <vinnl> I'm getting desperate :P
[17:03] <wesolek> you want me to reboot?
[17:04] <vinnl> wesolek, no, to click "Reload" in Synaptic
[17:04] <wesolek> oh ok
[17:04] <wesolek> nothing
[17:04] <vinnl> You mean still just one search result?
[17:05] <wesolek> search again and still nothing
[17:05] <wesolek> no results
[17:05] <vinnl> :S
[17:05] <vinnl> No results?
[17:05] <wesolek> zero
[17:05] <vinnl> Not even the modaliases thing?
[17:06] <wesolek> oh, yes, they're there (quick search though)
[17:06] <vinnl> All four of them? :)
[17:06] <wesolek> yes, plus other things
[17:07] <vinnl> OK, well, installing nvidia-glx-177 should do it
[17:07] <wesolek> how can I include my desktop into my sources?
[17:08] <vinnl> Your desktop?
[17:08] <wesolek> then I could try and run it from apt-get install
[17:08] <wesolek> yeah, desktop, or any place on my hdd
[17:08] <vinnl> Ah :P
[17:08] <vinnl> I don't think you're able to add a folder on your drive as a repository
[17:09] <vinnl> Oh wait, perhaps...
[17:09] <wesolek> oh :(
[17:09] <wesolek> suse could
[17:09] <vinnl> You could open the folder in a terminal window, then run "sudo dpkg -i ./*.deb"
[17:09] <vinnl> SuSE uses a different package manager... And perhaps Ubuntu can as well, but not that I know of :P
[17:10] <vinnl> Oh, btw, you don't need the -dev package, so I'd delete that beforehand
[17:12] <wesolek> ok let me try
[17:13] <jack_j> hi
[17:15] <wesolek> vinnl, check your priv
[17:25] <wesolek> sorry vinnl, everything died on me lol
[17:26] <vinnl> np
[17:27] <wesolek> ok you go do some sports and I will work on it for a bit
[17:27] <wesolek> thanks for all your help!
[17:27] <vinnl> You're welcome :)
[17:31] <vinnl> Bye now
[17:34] <jack_j> vinnl does football
[17:44] <cody-somerville> :]
[17:56] <inntegra> again guys sorry but i did some things with sound follow some instructions but nothing seems to work so is there someone who can help me to get sound on this toshiba satellite pls????
[17:56] <inntegra> still no sound
[17:58] <jarnos> inntegra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[18:59] <heapy> hello!
[19:06] <fbc> ls
[19:06] <fbc> oops
[19:25] <fbc> I want to restore my computer to fresh load without wiping the drive and reloading. Can it easily be done?
[19:42] <zoredache> not easily
[19:52] <c2tha_drizzle> anybody available to help a complete noob with an external hard drive problem?
[19:54] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, what's the problem?
[19:55] <c2tha_drizzle> i've got xubuntu running on an ancient dell and the hard drive is plugged in but i cant find evidence of it any where.
[19:55] <c2tha_drizzle> external seagate drive, if thats important.
[20:00] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, how is the drive partitioned?
[20:00] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, what kinda computer did you originally format it in? xp? If so it's probably NTFS and your will need the NTFS tools loaded into XUBUNTU to see the drives
[20:04] <c2tha_drizzle> actually it was windows 98.
[20:05] <c2tha_drizzle> is it the same tool?
[20:07] <fbc> if it was windows 98 then they should be FAT32 or FAT16.  Thye should automatically be recognized by xubuntu...
[20:08] <c2tha_drizzle> if it is recognized i can't see any evidence of it is there some way i can check?
[20:08] <fbc> Try adding the mount applet to your panel to assist you with mounting partitions that are recognized if xubuntu does not do it automatically.
[20:09] <fbc> You can also install/load GPARTED to check if the drive is properly partitioned and formatted/etc
[20:10] <c2tha_drizzle> how to i put the mount applet on my panel.  I'm not sure what half of that means :)
[20:11] <Sinister> iv been making dvds i switch it so its 8 gb dvd and fill the disk in k3b then switch it back to 4.7 and its 157% but it burns them and they look great anyone else ever try that ?
[20:16] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, well you should see file systems that are listed as not mounted correct?
[20:18] <c2tha_drizzle> in the file system, checking.
[20:21] <c2tha_drizzle> perhaps i just don't know where to look. when i open file system it shows a bunch of folders, but nothing idicates to me what is mounted and what is not.  Should i be looking in the dev directory, or home? i'm just not sure where to go, i'm sorry to say.
[20:22] <vinnl> c2tha_drizzle, you can add the mount applet to your panel by moving your cursor onto a panel, right clicking it and selecting "Add New Item", then picking "Mount Devices"
[20:25] <c2tha_drizzle> yes when i do that, thank you by the way, i can see two drives that are not mounted, the third external drive isn't listed.
[20:25] <c2tha_drizzle> it shows a floppy and a cddrom drive only.
[20:25] <vinnl> Is it connected via USB?
[20:25] <c2tha_drizzle> yes
[20:25] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, hmm then your hardware is not being detected
[20:26] <vinnl> Try running an "lsusb" in a terminal window
[20:26] <c2tha_drizzle> ok
[20:26] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, your usb1.1 port may not read the usb2.0 drive controller
[20:27] <vinnl> fbc, does that happen? 0.o
[20:28] <fbc> vinnl, yeah, i've seen it a couple of times with old machines..
[20:28] <c2tha_drizzle> when i run the lsusb thing, itcomes up on the terminal, it says bus 001 device 004 id 0bc2:0502 seagate rss llc
[20:28] <vinnl> But it's still not detected? Sometimes running that command makes Xubuntu recognise drives it didn't before...
[20:29] <fbc> vinnl, they were created when the the usb was a very loose standard and proper adoption was rare... in some cases it could be fixed by a bios update.
[20:29] <vinnl> fbc, ah, thanks, I learn something new every day :)
[20:30] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, try a bios update for your motherboard
[20:30] <c2tha_drizzle> ok.  that is way beyond me!  how do i do that?
[20:30] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, if your hardware is not discovered after that you may have another issue... Have you tried to confirm that port works?? have you pluged a usb mouse into that port?
[20:31] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, Bios updates are usually very simple you create a floppy then reboot the computer with the floppy in it and it updates the bios...
[20:31] <vinnl> c2tha_drizzle, have you tried it under other operating systems? If so, did it work for those?
[20:31] <c2tha_drizzle> it works, i'm currently running a usb hub with a wireless adapter on it.
[20:32] <c2tha_drizzle> it did work with my windows computer.
[20:32] <vinnl> Then it's probably not the BIOS, fbc?
[20:33] <fbc> ok, then it will probably be that issue... DELL usually will prompt you create a floppy to update your computer..  It may still be the bios... remember the usb2.0 may only swith down to usb1.1 if it detects afully compliant device
[20:33] <fbc> he may have to do a bios update to make his usbb port fully 1.1 compliant
[20:35] <c2tha_drizzle> is there a place where i can get step by step directions to do that, so i don't have to take any more of your time?
[20:40] <fbc> the should be one on the dell site where you download the file and creates the floppy..
[20:41] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, http://support.dell.com
[20:41] <c2tha_drizzle> okay. cool. thank you.
[20:41] <c2tha_drizzle> you've been a very big help.
[20:41] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle,  then find your model
[20:41] <fbc> c2tha_drizzle, no problem
[21:08] <cody-somerville> WHO WANTS XFCE 4.4.3?! :D
[21:09] <vinnl> I DO! :)
[21:09] <vinnl> Though 4.6 would be even better :P
[21:09] <cody-somerville> vinnl, go test it. its in intrepid-proposed
[21:10] <vinnl> Right away :)
[21:12] <vinnl> Hmm, the xfce4 package wasn't even installed
[21:12] <vinnl> cody-somerville, and I only get offered an update for xfce4-dict after enabling intrepid-proposed
[21:28] <vinnl> cody-somerville, could it be that I already had it?
[22:01] <arualavi> vinnl, me too
[22:02] <vinnl> arualavi, NCommander just told me that you'll already have it if you have intrepid-backports enabled :)
[22:04] <arualavi> ah ok, I have backports enabled too.
[22:56] <robile> whats the name/command for the xfce terminal?
[22:57] <robile> ah got it
[22:57] <robile> =D
[23:07] <cody-somerville> :)