=== mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell === salgado-afk is now known as salgado === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === vednis is now known as mars === bac_afk is now known as bac === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is barry. [15:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:00] hi everybody. happy new year and welcome to the first ameu reviewer's meeting of 2009. who's here today? [15:00] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:02] gmb, salgado, and rockstar all send their apologies [15:02] adeuring: ping [15:02] me [15:02] whoops, me [15:02] bigjools, cprov danilos ping [15:02] moo [15:03] mars: ping [15:03] cprov is out [15:03] bigjools: cool, thanks [15:03] me [15:03] thanks barry [15:04] it's a very light agenda for today... [15:04] [TOPIC] agenda [15:04] New Topic: agenda [15:04] * Roll call [15:04] * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda) [15:04] * Action items [15:04] * Mentoring update [15:05] [TOPIC] peanut gallery [15:05] New Topic: peanut gallery [15:05] i literally have nothing on the agenda for today, so before i get to action items, let me throw it open to the floor. do you all have any topics you'd like to discuss? [15:06] are we any closer to solving circular imports with the API? [15:06] I guess not :) [15:06] not from me. i didn't get a chance to work on that over the break [15:06] ;) [15:08] one thing i would like people to start thinking about is how (maybe: if :) we're going to do reviews of contributions when we open source lp [15:08] we don't need to solve that now, but as we get closer i'd like to have a strategy for that [15:09] ok! [15:09] [TOPIC] action items [15:09] New Topic: action items [15:09] * barry to look into techniques for eliminating back-patching of schema types (avoiding circular imports) [15:09] not done [15:09] * barry to add `pretty()` functions to reviewers docs [15:09] not done [15:09] * flacoste to work on API reviewer cheat sheet [15:09] not done [15:10] [TOPIC] mentoring update [15:10] New Topic: mentoring update [15:10] * barry doesn't even remember who we're still mentoring [15:11] * al-maisan is mentored by gmb [15:11] al-maisan, gmb how are things going? [15:11] of course gmb isn't here, so al-maisan you can rip on him if you want :) [15:11] I'm mentoring abel. [15:11] He's brilliant :) [15:11] allenap: uh, thanks ! [15:11] excellent! [15:12] I did reviews on two Mondays and these went reasonably well. [15:12] allenap: so you might say he's very abel to do his job [15:12] har har [15:12] * bigjools is here all week, enjoy the buffet [15:13] On some of the days I had a lot of work to do and didn't do any reviews. [15:13] I guess that somewhat of a general "problem" [15:13] bigjools: don't forget to tip your bartenders [15:13] *that's* [15:13] al-maisan: yep, that's the way it goes sometimes [15:14] btw, we have some new padders who might make good mentats [15:14] bigjools: Oh my. Couldn't you have taken some more holiday? [15:14] should we roust up a fresh batch of noobs? [15:14] bigjools: Or maybe that would make it worse :) [15:15] :) [15:15] barry: I was thinking that we have particularly good community contributions we can turn them into reviewers [15:15] allenap: it can get worse? :) [15:15] bigjools: kind of like for bzr? [15:15] dunno how bzr works [15:16] * barry should have pinged abentley [15:16] and maybe commit access when people have built up trust [15:17] one thing though: we'll have to be careful about keeping the overall vision reins so things don't get committed that we're not cool with [15:17] i think best is to first require contributors to arrange a sponsor, and then pick good contributors to get commit access [15:18] yep [15:18] +1 [15:18] like I said, they'll need to build trust first [15:19] where a sponsor is someone you talk to before starting to work on something, when you get it to review and when it's time to commit [15:20] btw, internally, i think henning, gary and noodles are available for mentoring [15:21] but they may need a little more baking (or in noodle's case, boiling) [15:22] well. maybe that's it for today. i've got nothing. shall we end early? [15:22] 5 [15:23] 4 [15:23] 3 [15:23] 2 [15:23] 1 [15:23] #endmeeting [15:23] Meeting finished at 09:23. [15:23] thanks everyone! [15:23] :) [15:23] Thunderbirds are go [15:23] thanks barry ! === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk