[00:32] ScottK: ehe, basically that we should and we know how to fix soyuz P-a-s parser [00:33] ScottK: ignoring binary-lines (possibly converting entries for single-binary into source ones) [00:34] * cprov realizes his version doesn't fit very well in English either :( [00:51] cprov: Thanks. I thought that MIGHT be what he was saying, but I really couldn't tell. [00:51] cprov: While your fixing, it'd be nice to expose the copy of P-A-S you are using to the web. [00:52] It'd make troubleshooting easier (if Ubuntu/Debian P-A-S might be out of sync). [00:52] ScottK: yes, that's a good point and it's in our plans. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [02:26] hi, anyone knows about a forums launchpad integration spec? [02:26] i wonder how hard would it be to create something like this [02:26] http://marumushi.com/apps/newsmap/newsmap.cfm?layout=0&selected=es,us&categories=world,nation,business,technology,health [02:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treemapping [02:27] also on top of launchpad. [02:27] specifically bugs.. [02:28] so we can check trends mixing the flow of information from forums and bug reports [06:43] to get a link to anther bug in a comment, do i just type the number [06:43] tmurder: "bug NNNN" works, yeah. [06:44] thanks [07:46] Hi... I'm having trouble viewing/browsing the source code of launchpad projects.. E.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-6.0/files "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.". I've been having this problem almost constantly since 6 months ago... what's up with that? [09:13] johnemb: it is a problem with loggerhead. It does work periodically with large trees, and work is in progress to make it better. === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell [09:17] thumper: ok thanks... periodically in my experience is probably around 1% of the time. Any idea of ETA of fix? (As I mentioned, I've seen this issue since I first started using Launchpad months ago) [09:17] johnemb: it is much better for smaller projects [09:18] but mysql is "largish" [09:18] johnemb: I'm hoping it'll be getting better over the next several months [09:20] yes, that does not help me very much, as I work with mysql a lot ;) OK, that ETA was kindof vague, but it helps to know that someone is working on it... thanks === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde === popey_ is now known as popey [10:44] hiya [10:44] is it possible to merge teams somehow? [10:44] I'd like ~ubuntu-motu to be merged into ~motu. [10:46] mrevell: ^ [10:47] thanks bigjools [10:47] dholbach: hey there [10:47] hiya mrevellü [10:47] hiya mrevell [10:47] oops :) [10:47] dholbach: Could you please file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/answers? [10:47] sure [10:47] That way the admins can see the request is really from you [10:48] What is there not to trust about Daniel :) [10:48] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/56726 [10:48] mrevell: ^ [10:48] curtis is on duty later [10:49] rock on! [10:49] thanks guys! [10:49] dholbach: I've assigned it to the LOSAs, shouldn't take long to be done. [10:49] super [10:50] mrevell: do you know who might be a able to hold a session about TTD or your LP Hacking/Review workflow at Ubuntu Developer Week? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep ? :) [10:51] dholbach: Hmm, not sure. I can put a request on the launchpad list [10:51] that'd be nice [10:52] we still have 3 open slots for UDW and I'm sure it'd interest a bunch of people [10:52] dholbach: Have you asked Steve A to do anything? If he has time, he could lead a great session, I'm sure. [10:53] mrevell: no, not yet - which topic do you reckon? [10:53] dholbach: Dunno :) [10:54] I can ask him anyway === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk [11:15] hiya danilos [11:15] dholbach: hey [11:16] dholbach: happy holidays [11:16] dholbach: how's it going? [11:16] err? happy holidays? :) [11:16] good good is it going - how are you? [11:16] dholbach: well, the ones coming in a year or so :) [11:17] woohoo! :) [11:17] dholbach: awesome :) === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [11:34] when people are done with a translation (.po files), where do they upload that file? [11:36] savvas: go to the page for that po file (an url ending with +translate) and choose "upload a file" from grey menu bar. [11:37] henninge: the horizontal grey one? [11:37] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/firefox-3.0/+pots/firefox/ta [11:38] savvas: if no pofile for that language exists yet, go to the template (a url containing a +pots) and choose "upload a file". The file's name should be the language code, like de.po. [11:38] * henninge looks [11:39] savvas: yes, but firefox is not translated in launchpad afaik [11:39] ah [11:39] savvas: we just import from the upstream project and only change in launchpad if there is something Ubuntu-specific. [11:40] i see, thanks :) [11:48] savvas: for more background information look here https://help.launchpad.net/TranslationsImportPolicy , here https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/StartingToTranslate and possibly here https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faqs === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === mrevell-afk is now known as mrevell [12:54] hm... I have a weird problem. I've set Tamil as a preferred language to test something, and now launchpad appears English and I think tamil (some words) [12:54] I removed tamil and now it still contains english and some tamil words [13:00] ok, cleared cache, everything's ok now :) === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === sinzui changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: sinzui | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [15:19] hi. I created a release and added a changelog but it doesn't shows up want's going on? [15:20] the description field works [15:27] f4_: where is the release? [15:31] sinzui, here https://launchpad.net/ispees/1.1/1.1rc1 [15:31] what you see is in the description field, not in changelog [15:33] f4_: interesting, I just looked at the RDF from the same page. I see your change log [15:33] * sinzui looks at some other releases [15:34] other releases avec nothing filled 8-) [15:35] f4_: I see the change log never shows up. Let me see why [15:38] -avec +have btw :) [15:42] f4_: The only place the changelog will ever appear is in the RDF. I'm going to file a bug to start a discussion about the purpose of this data. I see many projects do use the field [15:46] i just went to see https://launchpad.net/bzr/1.1/1.1rc1 (bzr is my "template" for my project :) ) there is a changelog but bot visible, the thing is i'm pretty sure i've seen a bzr changelog in the past few days [15:46] hm i might have seen this one actually https://launchpad.net/bzr/1.2/1.2 [15:47] f4_: I was looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr/1.9/1.9rc1. The changelog is only referenced in the add/edit form and in the RDF. nowehere else. bzr always adds a changelog [15:48] ok [15:48] in 1.2 it is in description and changelog [15:48] yep === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:51] f4_: I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/315118 [15:51] Launchpad bug 315118 in launchpad-registry "What is the purpose of ProductRelease.changelog?" [Undecided,New] [15:54] ok thanks for taking a look :) [16:06] sinzui, I think it is useful, just not being made useful so far [16:06] kiko__: So do I. Since we are working on releases and series right now, we have a opportunity to make this information more visible [16:09] sinzui, yeah. I'd love to have a "make a release" action and we could even calculate release status and the other stuff releases does for our own releases [16:09] kiko__: right, bugs and blueprints closed for the milestone should be incorporated into a changelog [16:10] would make our release announcements very fun [16:11] kiko__: I suspect I should be exempted from release announcements; my language is often not appropriate for the public. [16:14] sinzui, the public needs to learn to appreciate art [16:15] kiko__: I say the same thing to my children. [16:15] ...and inappropriate language. [16:16] rockstar: I cannot stop my children will learn obscenity. The best I can do is teach them how to do it right [16:17] sinzui, essactly! [16:18] sinzui, I recall a scene in Boondock Saints where the f-word is used as an adjective, noun, verb and adverb. That's how it's done right. :) [16:18] rockstar: yep === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [18:42] I was wondering what the spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/soyuz-lintian-reports was, but I cannot access the "Full details" [19:45] pet: let me look. We are migrating our spec to a public wiki as needed. I'll move it if it doesn't contain security info [19:46] thanks sinzui === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [20:00] pet, the spec is just a brain dump. I had to create a few pages before I could move the spec. I updated the blueprint to point to https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/Specs/LintianReports [20:00] really appreciate your effort, thanks! === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp [20:37] A friend of mine complained that he couldn't add tags to a bug when entering the bug, only could add tags by editing the bug later. I searched to see if there was already a bug about this (it turns out there is, but more on that in a moment). One of my searches was for "tags", like this: [20:37] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bugs?field.searchtext=tags&search=Search [20:37] That search failed to find this bug, however: [20:37] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/312885 [20:37] Launchpad bug 312885 in malone "Cannot adds tags when creating a bug report" [Undecided,Invalid] [20:37] Do bug searches not turn up 'invalid' bugs by default? [20:38] The only reason I found the bug is that I entered a new bug about this, and in the automated dup search after I clicked submit (which *rocks*, by the way), malone found 312885. [20:38] So whatever search powers malone has, I want them too! :-) [21:34] kfogel: yeah, i think closed bugs are not found by the default search [21:35] mwhudson: mrmrm [21:35] which makes sense ... some of the time :) [21:35] mwhudson: I can see some reasons why that might make sense... but also many (perhaps more?) reasons why it's suboptimal. [21:35] heh [21:35] we're saying the same thing at the same time [21:36] * kfogel waits for mwhudson to say that too... [21:36] mwhudson: this boils down to an interesting question: a bug submitter does not realize, until *after* they click submit, that the entry interface is actually a search interface. [21:36] if you're using the entry interface to search for bugs, something is wrong, i agree [21:36] If they knew that, then even responsible submitters would realize they don't have to do a dup search manually first (which, of course, is what both James and I did, because hey, this isn't our first rodeo, right?) [21:37] mwhudson: no, I'm not saying that [21:37] I think it's great! [21:37] you can search for closed bugs from the advanced search page [21:37] Just the submitter should *know* that this interface is going to do the dup search for them. [21:37] ah right [21:37] I thought the submission page showed closed bugs, unlike the default general search [21:37] james_w: yes, it does [21:37] good [21:37] james_w: you mean the submission page post-submit? yes, it does === ahasenack is now known as pandora === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [23:44] hi all [23:45] sinzui: ping ? [23:49] hi asabil_ [23:49] hi sinzui, you just answered my question on lp, but the meta project doesn't seem to be available yet [23:51] asabil_: Oh I misunderstood your question. Yes it can be people-project. An admin needs to do the remaining steps [23:52] oki thanks === asabil_ is now known as asabil