[00:32] <cprov> ScottK: ehe, basically that we should and we know how to fix soyuz P-a-s parser
[00:33] <cprov> ScottK:  ignoring binary-lines (possibly converting entries for single-binary into source ones)
[00:34]  * cprov realizes his version doesn't fit very well in English either :(
[00:51] <ScottK> cprov: Thanks.  I thought that MIGHT be what he was saying, but I really couldn't tell.
[00:51] <ScottK> cprov: While your fixing, it'd be nice to expose the copy of P-A-S you are using to the web.
[00:52] <ScottK> It'd make troubleshooting easier (if Ubuntu/Debian P-A-S might be out of sync).
[00:52] <cprov> ScottK: yes, that's a good point and it's in our plans.
[02:26] <andresmujica> hi, anyone knows about a forums launchpad integration spec?
[02:26] <andresmujica> i wonder how hard would it be to create something like this
[02:26] <andresmujica> http://marumushi.com/apps/newsmap/newsmap.cfm?layout=0&selected=es,us&categories=world,nation,business,technology,health
[02:27] <andresmujica> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treemapping
[02:27] <andresmujica> also on top of launchpad.
[02:27] <andresmujica> specifically bugs..
[02:28] <andresmujica> so we can check trends mixing the flow of information from forums and bug reports
[06:43] <tmurder> to get a link to anther bug in a comment, do i just type the number
[06:43] <spiv> tmurder: "bug NNNN" works, yeah.
[06:44] <tmurder> thanks
[07:46] <johnemb> Hi... I'm having trouble viewing/browsing the source code of launchpad projects.. E.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-6.0/files   "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.". I've been having this problem almost constantly since 6 months ago... what's up with that?
[09:13] <thumper> johnemb: it is a problem with loggerhead.  It does work periodically with large trees, and work is in progress to make it better.
[09:17] <johnemb> thumper: ok thanks... periodically in my experience is probably around 1% of the time. Any idea of ETA of fix? (As I mentioned, I've seen this issue since I first started using Launchpad months ago)
[09:17] <thumper> johnemb: it is much better for smaller projects
[09:18] <thumper> but mysql is "largish"
[09:18] <thumper> johnemb: I'm hoping it'll be getting better over the next several months
[09:20] <johnemb> yes, that does not help me very much, as I work with mysql a lot ;)   OK, that ETA was kindof vague, but it helps to know that someone is working on it... thanks
[10:44] <dholbach> hiya
[10:44] <dholbach> is it possible to merge teams somehow?
[10:44] <dholbach> I'd like ~ubuntu-motu to be merged into ~motu.
[10:46] <bigjools> mrevell: ^
[10:47] <mrevell> thanks bigjools
[10:47] <mrevell> dholbach: hey there
[10:47] <dholbach> hiya mrevellü
[10:47] <dholbach> hiya mrevell
[10:47] <dholbach> oops :)
[10:47] <mrevell> dholbach: Could you please file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/answers?
[10:47] <dholbach> sure
[10:47] <mrevell> That way the admins can see the request is really from you
[10:48] <bigjools> What is there not to trust about Daniel :)
[10:48] <dholbach> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/56726
[10:48] <dholbach> mrevell: ^
[10:48] <bigjools> curtis is on duty later
[10:49] <dholbach> rock on!
[10:49] <dholbach> thanks guys!
[10:49] <mrevell> dholbach: I've assigned it to the LOSAs, shouldn't take long to be done.
[10:49] <dholbach> super
[10:50] <dholbach> mrevell: do you know who might be a able to hold a session about TTD or your LP Hacking/Review workflow at Ubuntu Developer Week?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep ? :)
[10:51] <mrevell> dholbach: Hmm, not sure. I can put a request on the launchpad list
[10:51] <dholbach> that'd be nice
[10:52] <dholbach> we still have 3 open slots for UDW and I'm sure it'd interest a bunch of people
[10:52] <mrevell> dholbach: Have you asked Steve A to do anything? If he has time, he could lead a great session, I'm sure.
[10:53] <dholbach> mrevell: no, not yet - which topic do you reckon?
[10:53] <mrevell> dholbach: Dunno :)
[10:54] <dholbach> I can ask him anyway
[11:15] <dholbach> hiya danilos
[11:15] <danilos> dholbach: hey
[11:16] <danilos> dholbach: happy holidays
[11:16] <danilos> dholbach: how's it going?
[11:16] <dholbach> err? happy holidays?  :)
[11:16] <dholbach> good good is it going - how are you?
[11:16] <danilos> dholbach: well, the ones coming in a year or so :)
[11:17] <dholbach> woohoo! :)
[11:17] <danilos> dholbach: awesome :)
[11:34] <savvas> when people are done with a translation (.po files), where do they upload that file?
[11:36] <henninge> savvas: go to the page for that po file (an url ending with +translate) and choose "upload a file" from grey menu bar.
[11:37] <savvas> henninge: the horizontal grey one?
[11:37] <savvas> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/firefox-3.0/+pots/firefox/ta
[11:38] <henninge> savvas: if no pofile for that language exists yet, go to the template (a url containing a +pots) and choose "upload a file". The file's name should be the language code, like de.po.
[11:38]  * henninge looks
[11:39] <henninge> savvas: yes, but firefox is not translated in launchpad afaik
[11:39] <savvas> ah
[11:39] <henninge> savvas: we just import from the upstream project and only change in launchpad if there is something Ubuntu-specific.
[11:40] <savvas> i see, thanks :)
[11:48] <henninge> savvas: for more background information look here https://help.launchpad.net/TranslationsImportPolicy , here https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/StartingToTranslate and possibly here https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faqs
[12:54] <savvas> hm... I have a weird problem. I've set Tamil as a preferred language to test something, and now launchpad appears English and I think tamil (some words)
[12:54] <savvas> I removed tamil and now it still contains english and some tamil words
[13:00] <savvas> ok, cleared cache, everything's ok now :)
[15:19] <f4_> hi. I created a release and added a changelog but it doesn't shows up want's going on?
[15:20] <f4_> the description field works
[15:27] <sinzui> f4_: where is the release?
[15:31] <f4_> sinzui, here https://launchpad.net/ispees/1.1/1.1rc1
[15:31] <f4_> what you see is in the description field, not in changelog
[15:33] <sinzui> f4_: interesting, I just looked at the RDF from the same page. I see your change log
[15:33]  * sinzui looks at some other releases
[15:34] <f4_> other releases avec nothing filled 8-)
[15:35] <sinzui> f4_: I see the change log never shows up. Let me see why
[15:38] <f4_> -avec +have btw :)
[15:42] <sinzui> f4_: The only place the changelog will ever appear is in the RDF. I'm going to file a bug to start a discussion about the purpose of this data. I see many projects do use the field
[15:46] <f4_> i just went to see https://launchpad.net/bzr/1.1/1.1rc1 (bzr is my "template" for my project :) ) there is a changelog but bot visible, the thing is i'm pretty sure i've seen a bzr changelog in the past few days
[15:46] <f4_> hm i might have seen this one actually https://launchpad.net/bzr/1.2/1.2
[15:47] <sinzui> f4_: I was looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr/1.9/1.9rc1. The changelog is only referenced in the add/edit form and in the RDF. nowehere else. bzr always adds a changelog
[15:48] <f4_> ok
[15:48] <f4_> in 1.2 it is in description and changelog
[15:48] <sinzui> yep
[15:51] <sinzui> f4_: I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/315118
[15:54] <f4_> ok thanks for taking a look :)
[16:06] <kiko__> sinzui, I think it is useful, just not being made useful so far
[16:06] <sinzui> kiko__: So do I. Since we are working on releases and series right now, we have a opportunity to make this information more visible
[16:09] <kiko__> sinzui, yeah. I'd love to have a "make a release" action and we could even calculate release status and the other stuff releases does for our own releases
[16:09] <sinzui> kiko__: right, bugs and blueprints closed for the milestone should be incorporated into a changelog
[16:10] <kiko__> would make our release announcements very fun
[16:11] <sinzui> kiko__: I suspect I should be exempted from release announcements; my language is often not appropriate for the public.
[16:14] <kiko__> sinzui, the public needs to learn to appreciate art
[16:15] <sinzui> kiko__: I say the same thing to my children.
[16:15] <rockstar> ...and inappropriate language.
[16:16] <sinzui> rockstar: I cannot stop my children will learn obscenity.  The best I can do is teach them how to do it right
[16:17] <rockstar> sinzui, essactly!
[16:18] <rockstar> sinzui, I recall a scene in Boondock Saints where the f-word is used as an adjective, noun, verb and adverb.  That's how it's done right.  :)
[16:18] <sinzui> rockstar: yep
[18:42] <pet> I was wondering what the spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/soyuz-lintian-reports was, but I cannot access the "Full details"
[19:45] <sinzui> pet: let me look. We are migrating our spec to a public wiki as needed. I'll move it if it doesn't contain security info
[19:46] <pet> thanks sinzui
[20:00] <sinzui> pet, the spec is just a brain dump. I had to create a few pages before I could move the spec. I updated the blueprint to point to https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/Specs/LintianReports
[20:00] <pet> really appreciate your effort, thanks!
[20:37] <kfogel> A friend of mine complained that he couldn't add tags to a bug when entering the bug, only could add tags by editing the bug later.  I searched to see if there was already a bug about this (it turns out there is, but more on that in a moment).  One of my searches was for "tags", like this:
[20:37] <kfogel> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bugs?field.searchtext=tags&search=Search
[20:37] <kfogel> That search failed to find this bug, however:
[20:37] <kfogel> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/312885
[20:37] <kfogel> Do bug searches not turn up 'invalid' bugs by default?
[20:38] <kfogel> The only reason I found the bug is that I entered a new bug about this, and in the automated dup search after I clicked submit (which *rocks*, by the way), malone found 312885.
[20:38] <kfogel> So whatever search powers malone has, I want them too! :-)
[21:34] <mwhudson> kfogel: yeah, i think closed bugs are not found by the default search
[21:35] <kfogel> mwhudson: mrmrm
[21:35] <mwhudson> which makes sense ... some of the time :)
[21:35] <kfogel> mwhudson: I can see some reasons why that might make sense... but also many (perhaps more?) reasons why it's suboptimal.
[21:35] <kfogel> heh
[21:35] <kfogel> we're saying the same thing at the same time
[21:36]  * kfogel waits for mwhudson to say that too...
[21:36] <kfogel> mwhudson: this boils down to an interesting question: a bug submitter does not realize, until *after* they click submit, that the entry interface is actually a search interface.
[21:36] <mwhudson> if you're using the entry interface to search for bugs, something is wrong, i agree
[21:36] <kfogel> If they knew that, then even responsible submitters would realize they don't have to do a dup search manually first (which, of course, is what both James and I did, because hey, this isn't our first rodeo, right?)
[21:37] <kfogel> mwhudson: no, I'm not saying that
[21:37] <kfogel> I think it's great!
[21:37] <mwhudson> you can search for closed bugs from the advanced search page
[21:37] <kfogel> Just the submitter should *know* that this interface is going to do the dup search for them.
[21:37] <mwhudson> ah right
[21:37] <james_w> I thought the submission page showed closed bugs, unlike the default general search
[21:37] <mwhudson> james_w: yes, it does
[21:37] <james_w> good
[21:37] <kfogel> james_w: you mean the submission page post-submit?  yes, it does
[23:44] <asabil_> hi all
[23:45] <asabil_> sinzui: ping ?
[23:49] <sinzui> hi asabil_
[23:49] <asabil_> hi sinzui, you just answered my question on lp, but the meta project doesn't seem to be available yet
[23:51] <sinzui> asabil_: Oh I misunderstood your question. Yes it can be people-project. An admin needs to do the remaining steps
[23:52] <asabil_> oki thanks