[10:59] <saispo> hi
[11:00] <saispo> cjwatson: i don't understand something... when i deactivate proposed the kernel on my installer are 2.6.24-19 and not 2.6.24-22 and i have the debian-installer 0.46... where is the mistake ? i don't want to distribute a cd with proposed activated :x
[11:06] <cjwatson> saispo: I assume you mean 20070308ubuntu40.6?
[11:06] <saispo> yep
[11:06] <cjwatson> saispo: I'm sorry, though, I can't help you. The fault is very likely in your mirror setup somewhere
[11:06] <saispo> in hardy-updates
[11:06] <saispo> Packages.gz are right :x
[11:06] <cjwatson> saispo: check that you have the new dists/hardy-updates/main/installer-*/ directories as well as pool
[11:06] <cjwatson> you may need to rsync them up by hand
[11:07] <saispo> will see that, thanks
[11:08] <davmor2> cjwatson: I only had time to do a couple of quick tests on live desktop last night all seems well.  Is encrypted home working on d-i yet and do you need it testing?
[11:09] <cjwatson> davmor2: kirkland told me yesterday that it was working, but the real test should be today since the kernel has changed about a bit, wouldn't hurt to give it a quick steam through
[11:10] <davmor2> cjwatson: No Problems I got a bit more time throughout today so I can test a bit better :)
[11:11] <cjwatson> davmor2: actually don't bother there was a udev NEW glitch
[11:11] <cjwatson> so today's CDs are probably busted
[11:12] <saispo> cjwatson: i have exactly the same
[11:13] <davmor2> cjwatson: np's I should be around most of the week so I'll keep trying it :)
[11:16] <cjwatson> saispo: I've given you all the help I can; since now you know the path where it fetches the kernel, you should have enough information to trace through what's happening
[11:16] <saispo> yep
[11:16] <saispo> thks
[11:20] <saispo> cjwatson: ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/MANIFEST.udebs -> tell about -19 and not -22 :x
[11:24] <cjwatson> blink
[11:24] <cjwatson> yes, you're right, let me fix that in the archive
[11:24] <saispo> ;)
[11:24] <cjwatson> I guess it wasn't copied properly, sorry about that
[11:28] <saispo> no problem
[11:28] <cjwatson> saispo: fixed, will be visible on archive.ubuntu.com in about half an hour
[11:29] <cjwatson> lp_publish@cocoplum:/srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/dists.new$ grep 2.6.24 hardy-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/MANIFEST.udebs | head -n1
[11:29] <saispo> ok, thanks, will wait :)
[11:29] <cjwatson>         acpi-modules-2.6.24-22-generic-di 2.6.24-22.45 i386
[11:45] <CIA-3> apt-setup: cjwatson * r150 ubuntu/debian/changelog: correct misleading changelog comment
[11:46] <CIA-3> apt-setup: cjwatson * r151 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog generators/50mirror.ubuntu):
[11:46] <CIA-3> apt-setup: Honour apt-setup/restricted, apt-setup/universe, and
[11:46] <CIA-3> apt-setup: apt-setup/multiverse when writing -backports lines (LP: #314462).
[11:48] <CIA-3> apt-setup: cjwatson * r152 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1:0.37ubuntu7
[14:19]  * kirkland is pulling today's iso to test encrypted home
[15:03] <davmor2> kirkland: I didn't see the option
[15:04] <kirkland> davmor2: server/alternate installer?
[15:05] <davmor2> kirkland: d-i alternate but from what cjwatson said it's a bit borked with a boat load of updates
[15:05] <davmor2> once installed
[15:05] <davmor2> server might be different though
[15:06] <davmor2> kirkland:  (11:11:30) cjwatson: davmor2: actually don't bother there was a udev NEW glitch
[15:06] <davmor2> (11:11:34) cjwatson: so today's CDs are probably busted
[15:06] <kirkland> bummer
[15:06] <cr3> cjwatson: how can I determine whether the netboot files on an alternate image are for the same version as the kernel and modules on the same image?
[15:07] <cjwatson> cr3: they should always be the same
[15:08] <cr3> cjwatson: ok, I've been getting the error: No root filesystem is defined. I'll reproduce and upload the syslog and partman files
[15:09] <cr3> cjwatson: by the way, I have changed my preseed to use "d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic" instead of "... All files in one partition", although I think I observed that the installer was backward compatible
[15:09] <davmor2> cjwatson: What is it exactly that Udev does
[15:09] <cjwatson> cr3: yes, either should work but your new value is preferred
[15:10] <cjwatson> davmor2: err, apt-cache show udev?
[15:10] <kirkland> davmor2: yeah, the cd does look busted to me :-/
[15:10] <cjwatson> I'm going to build a new CD in a bit; lunch first
[15:10] <davmor2> cjwatson: ping me when :)
[15:11] <cjwatson> we really must get RSS feeds set up or something
[15:11] <cjwatson> I hate having to ping people
[15:11] <davmor2> cjwatson: that would be cool :)
[15:13] <cr3> cjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cr3/(syslog|partman|preseed), I can see "INPUT critical partman-target/no_root" but not the reason for it
[15:14] <cjwatson> presumably because it hasn't detected any disks
[15:15] <cr3> cjwatson: I'm an idiot, that was the reason for my original question about the netboot files and the kernel, I was getting an error that they don't match.
[15:15] <cjwatson> oh, you didn't say it was hardy
[15:15] <cjwatson> I'll look at the hardy-proposed images in a bit and see what's up with them
[15:16] <cr3> cjwatson: I'm strictly using files from the alternate image though, I'm not going out to archive.ubuntu.com
[15:17] <cjwatson> oh, the seeds are wrong
[15:18] <cjwatson> fixed, will rebuild in a bit
[15:18] <cr3> cjwatson: strings ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux | grep 2.6: 2.6.24-23-generic (buildd@palmer) #1 SMP Thu Nov 27 18:44:42 UTC 2008
[15:19] <cjwatson> the CD would have been screwed if booted normally too
[15:19] <cr3> that looks alright to me
[15:19] <cjwatson> it is, the problem is that the CD wrongly contained -22 module udebs
[15:19] <tjaalton> btw, any news if pgksel will be able to install "Recommends" too? now it only does what is on the list
[15:19] <cjwatson> due to the seeds saying that
[15:19] <cr3> cjwatson: ah, thanks for the info, this was confusing because I just did a major refactoring of one part of code and I was worried the problem might be on my side
[15:19] <cjwatson> tjaalton: well, it installs Depends. I guess you're talking about pkgsel/include? We should probably make Recommends optional
[15:20] <cjwatson> tjaalton: wishlist bug on pkgsel please?
[15:20] <tjaalton> cjwatson: ok, will do
[15:20] <tjaalton> *file
[15:22] <davmor2> Meh system not restarting on clicking the restart button after update :(
[16:48] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r747 ubuntu/ (15 files in 11 dirs):
[16:48] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: Add basic ext4 support (LP: #293465). Some translatable strings are
[16:48] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: still incorrect, but that will be fixed once this gets into Debian.
[16:50] <CIA-3> partman-auto: cjwatson * r277 ubuntu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add ext4 support (LP: #293465).
[16:50] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r748 ubuntu/debian/changelog: not so basic, actually :-)
[16:51] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r692 ubuntu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add ext4 support (LP: #293465).
[16:53] <CIA-3> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r749 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 55ubuntu2
[16:55] <CIA-3> partman-auto: cjwatson * r278 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 83ubuntu2
[16:57] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r693 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 64ubuntu2
[16:59] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2962 ubiquity/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add ext4 support (LP: #293465).
[17:25] <superm1> evand, how feasible would it be to have an option to remove extra language packages at the end of OEM config if extra ones were installed?
[17:26] <superm1> i was just doing updates for a factory install, and having 716 updates because of all the language packs seems a bit excessive
[17:28] <evand> Seems reasonable.  cjwatson, any objections?
[17:29] <cjwatson> only difficulty is that we'd have to port all the tedious python-apt code across to oem-config, but it's possible
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[18:00] <cjwatson> cr3: new hardy images up, should be happier now
[18:00] <cjwatson> davmor2,kirkland: new jaunty images up, should fix the udev dependency glicth
[18:00] <cjwatson> glitch
[18:00] <kirkland> cjwatson: nice, i'll pull
[18:32] <cr3> cjwatson: thanks, I'll try it out
[18:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2963 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[18:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup 1:0.37ubuntu7,
[18:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: hw-detect 1.71ubuntu3, partconf 1.30build1, partman-auto 83ubuntu2,
[18:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: partman-base 128ubuntu4, partman-ext3 55ubuntu2, partman-partitioning
[18:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 64ubuntu2, partman-target 58ubuntu2, tzsetup 1:0.24ubuntu1, user-setup
[18:41] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 1.23ubuntu6.
[18:57] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2964 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.11.2
[19:01] <davmor2> cjwatson: pulling now :)
[19:01] <davmor2> thanks
[19:11] <NCommander> cjwatson, hola
[19:41] <kirkland> cjwatson: worked like a champ!!!
[19:42] <kirkland> evand: I have validated today's server build -- encrypted home option working as expected.  that's the 'go-ahead' from me that the encrypt-home bootstrapping backend is ready for integration into the desktop installer
[19:43] <evand> wonderful
[19:58] <cjwatson> NCommander: hi
[19:58] <cjwatson> kirkland: yay
[19:58] <NCommander> cjwatson, how goes it?
[19:59] <cjwatson> fine, just spent the day doing ext4 support
[20:00] <kirkland> cjwatson: yeah, thanks a lot for re-spinning
[20:07] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2965 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog copyright): Correct Bazaar link in debian/copyright, really this time.
[20:23] <cr3> I have a dhcp timeout in my preseed, d-i netcfg/dhcp_timeout string 120, but it doesn't seem like it's waiting for 2 minutes though
[20:32] <cjwatson> hm, I have a feeling that we need to configure the DHCP client to spend longer trying, for very long timeouts
[20:32] <cjwatson> time it with a stopwatch, and file a bug on netcfg if you confirm it
[21:31] <cr3> cjwatson: reported bug #315231 against netcfg regarding the dhcp timeout
[21:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 315231 in netcfg "netcfg/dhcp_timeout doesn't take effect when installing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315231
[22:28] <davmor2> kirkland: which arch did you check?
[22:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r2966 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py):
[22:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Fix the edit partition dialog by properly preseeding
[22:35] <CIA-3> ubiquity: partman/active_partition.
[23:08] <kirkland> davmor2: i tested server amd64
[23:08] <kirkland> davmor2: it might be interesting to test the alternate cd, and i386
[23:11] <davmor2> kirkland: I don't tend to touch server so I did 32bit alternate and it seems to work okay although initial startup of apps that are slow FF OO.o seem slower other than that seems okay :)
[23:11] <kirkland> davmor2: interesting, okay
[23:11] <kirkland> davmor2: i'm working with michael larabel of phoronix for performance benchmarking of the encrypted home stuff
[23:12] <davmor2> kirkland: only the initial startup though after that seems relatively comparable with a normal system
[23:13] <kirkland> davmor2: have you tested the same setup, without encrypted home?
[23:13] <davmor2> I'm guessing the need to insert .ooo .ff directories
[23:13] <davmor2> kirkland: yes live install on yesterdays image
[23:13] <kirkland> davmor2: cool, well, i'll have a look