| cjwatson | does anyone have /proc/cpuinfo from an lpia system handy? | 11:52 |
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| StevenK | Ish | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | I'm working on bug 291670 | 11:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291670 in base-installer "LPIA installer missing kernel" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291670 | 11:52 |
| persia | I have a collection of those. I can attach them to the bug if you like. | 11:52 |
| persia | cjwatson, I've attached two I had handy, which were very similar. I'll attach at least two others, I just have to dig them up. | 12:01 |
| persia | StevenK, I think mine are different than yours (different hardware), so it might be interesting to push those two, just to show variance. | 12:03 |
| StevenK | My Q1 isn't running lpia currently | 12:03 |
| persia | intrepid live image? | 12:03 |
| StevenK | Hm | 12:07 |
| StevenK | Good point | 12:07 |
| cjwatson | persia: thanks | 12:08 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Booting my Q1 to also add to the bug | 12:09 |
| StevenK | (Helping you so I don't feel bad when I bug you after the meeting :-) | 12:09 |
| cjwatson | the kernel installation script is going to be really simple, so there's not much possible variance - don't put too much effort in | 12:09 |
| persia | There's two classes of chips that get a real lpia kernel: A1xx and Atom. Everything else probably should have lpiacompat. | 12:10 |
| persia | Since lpiacompat doesn't ship in the image, this will generate another bug, but that can be worked around differently. | 12:10 |
| cjwatson | ah, in that case I would like to have a sample of A1xx, Atom, and something that requires lpiacompat | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | does -lpia boot on non-A1xx/Atom chips? | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | (at least in theory) | 12:11 |
| persia | Does anyone have one of the Via EeePCs, or another C7M device in the channel? | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | because if it does, then I can just fall back from -lpiacompat to -lpia if available | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | fallbacks are good | 12:12 |
| persia | For some chips, maybe. Depends on the instruction set on the chip. Also, no guarantees that it will continue to do so as lpia evolves. | 12:12 |
| persia | lpiacompat is for chips that can't run lpia kernel, but can run lpia userspace. | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | you guys should instruct me on what to do here | 12:13 |
| persia | The VIA c7M is the most popular example. | 12:13 |
| persia | How about I get the rest of the data you need to write the shims, and update the bug? | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | persia: ok, yes please. BTW, if there's something in 'flags' in cpuinfo that I can use for the detection, that would be better than working off model names | 12:14 |
| persia | I don't know of something for that. I'll see if I can chase down a better answer from the kernel folk. | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: what am I going to be bugged about later? :) | 12:16 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: livecd-rootfs, which will take about 15 seconds, and also about the ubuntu-mid daily fail | 12:16 |
| cjwatson | ok | 12:49 |
| lool | Grrr build logs disappearing from librarian, and I sent them in a Debian bug report as a reference | 13:21 |
| lool | persia: I have a VIA C7 and I found its power adapter | 13:22 |
| lool | It's been on the way to my desk for weeks now to push me into booting it | 13:22 |
| persia | lool, Excellent. Could you post /proc/cpuinfo to the bug? | 13:22 |
| lool | Yeah, just finishing what I have in progress first | 13:22 |
| lool | (need to write an USB key for it and all) | 13:23 |
| lool | Hmm the MID image says Could not find kernel image: linux to me | 15:04 |
| lool | On my VIA C7 | 15:04 |
| lool | Perhaps it's screwed | 15:04 |
| * lool rsyncs and tries again | 15:06 | |
| lool | Suckage, even with the latest version | 15:12 |
| lool | Interesting, it only boots once into syslinux, the second time it's boot failure | 15:17 |
| lool | It seems this device is very picky | 15:19 |
| lool | I kind of don't know what I'm booting actually since I don't get the boot.msg | 15:20 |
| lool | Ah perhaps with a fat16 | 15:24 |
| lool | YES \o/ | 15:27 |
| lool | Stupid old crap | 15:27 |
| lool | persia: Ah this is a VIA C3, Nehemiah | 15:30 |
| lool | cjwatson: Did you have any interest in this? | 15:30 |
| lool | cjwatson: (/proc/cpuinfo) | 15:30 |
| lool | I'm in the initramfs and running a lpia kernel on it | 15:30 |
| lool | AFAICS, lpiacompat isn't needed | 15:30 |
| lool | What I have in cpuinfo: vendor_id is "CentaurHauls" model name is "VIA Nehemiah"; that's about all | 15:31 |
| cjwatson | lool: go ahead and attach it | 15:48 |
| lool | Not really attached but done | 16:00 |
| mcgrof | umpc and mid do not use conman? | 18:55 |
| mcgrof | lool: IIRC Via Nehemiah requires CONFIG_X86_GENERIC or something like that | 18:57 |
| lool | mcgrof: Should I understand from your comment that it's not turned on in the lpia kernel or that I will see breakage? | 19:00 |
| mcgrof | lool: I am not sure if it is or not enabled, check, but if its not I would expect your kernel to oops early as I ran into that same issue a while back when debian decided to remove that config option from their 686 kernel images | 19:04 |
| lool | mcgrof: At least I can tell you I successfully load the kernel and an initramfs and run busybox in it | 19:10 |
| mcgrof | lool: oh mine was VIA Nehemiah | 19:13 |
| mcgrof | http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/7/21/162 | 19:13 |
| lool | so is mine | 19:13 |
| lool | mcgrof: That's what I have as well | 19:13 |
| mcgrof | oh then yeah it was CONFIG_X86_GENERIC that needs to be =y | 19:14 |
| mcgrof | unless hpa fixed this somehow in recent kernels | 19:14 |
| lool | I guess it's set in lpia | 19:14 |
| mcgrof | I thought he wasn't though | 19:14 |
| n_8 | hello all. i have a quick question if someone would be so kind to help me with | 19:17 |
| n_8 | i am running ubuntu-mobile with the hildon desktop as a second session for use as an in car computer | 19:17 |
| n_8 | i wrote an app utilizing adobe air that will run just fine under gnome, however will not launch one i am logged into the hildon desktop | 19:18 |
| n_8 | is adobe air compatible with ubuntu-mobile/hildon | 19:19 |
| lool | n_8: I don't know why it wouldn't work, but you should be able to run anything you run under GNOME under hildon, perhaps with more components running | 19:34 |
| lool | n_8: Perhaps you're missing packages; check error messages in your .xsession-errors | 19:34 |
| n_8 | ok i will do that | 19:34 |
| n_8 | thank you | 19:34 |
| n_8 | one more quick question | 19:35 |
| n_8 | is there anything other than changing the .desktop file to get it to show in hildon? | 19:35 |
| n_8 | a particular application i mean | 19:35 |
| lool | Depends of your version, is it the intrepid one? | 19:36 |
| lool | 8.10 | 19:36 |
| lool | It's using Categories to select what to show | 19:36 |
| lool | n_8: But yeah, it's just tweaking the OnlyShowIn and Categories in the .desktop file | 19:36 |
| n_8 | im using 8.04 | 19:37 |
| lool | It's also the case in 8.04, but with different combinations | 19:37 |
| n_8 | ok thank you | 19:37 |
| lool | mcgrof: x86_generic=y in intrepid's linux-lpia lpia config | 19:43 |
| lool | and lpiacompat as well | 19:43 |
| mcgrof | lool: nice | 19:43 |
| vit1251 | hi all | 20:35 |
| vit1251 | i am have intersting about Ubuntu Mobile | 20:36 |
| vit1251 | can I install this on my PDA? | 20:36 |
| vit1251 | what i neet to do this? | 20:36 |
| n_8 | ok so i got the app to run by going into the terminal and using ./ | 23:32 |
| n_8 | but why will the icon not launch the app? | 23:32 |
| n_8 | xsession-error says: attempt to exec invalid entry | 23:33 |
| n_8 | any ideas? | 23:33 |
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