[00:02] <crimsun> fta: pa side should be better now; i'll send the source up to my ppa
[00:02] <crimsun> fta: i'm inspecting the alsa-{lib,plugins} side tonight
[01:44] <crimsun> fta: please see if pulseaudio_0.9.13-2ubuntu5~ppa1 in my jaunty ppa help
[01:44] <crimsun> helps*
[01:45] <crimsun> fta: i don't expect things to be fully resolved, but it should be better
[10:21] <asac> hmmm so we should document the plugin finder service/switcher stuff
[11:17] <asac> doomed
[11:28] <asac> http://code.google.com/p/google-gadgets-for-linux/source/browse/trunk/extensions/smjs_script_runtime/gen_libmozjs_glue.sh
[11:28] <asac> we should integrate that in the -dev package i think
[11:32] <asac> seems like the iceape update was the sec update with the most CVEs ever ;)
[12:15] <asac> [reed]: so monitoring the tinderbox for two days now i came to the conclusion that its always burning when i want to push :(
[14:07] <asac> hmm ... have binary firefox linux releases been tar.gz
[14:07] <asac> always?
[14:07] <asac> seems so
[18:34] <asac> jcastro: re gwibber ... how do you forward bugs?
[18:34] <asac> jcastro: for me the long to short url feature is more or less essential
[18:35] <jcastro> asac: it's on lp just just file it under gwibber
[18:35] <asac> jcastro: however, that only works if the text you are typing + the long url is shorter than 140 ... e.g. type 70, past url with 60
[18:35] <jcastro> asac: long to short is in preferences
[18:35] <asac> doesnt work ... even though shortening would work
[18:35] <asac> oh ... thought it was enabled
[18:35] <asac> let me check
[18:36] <jcastro> it has a small bug where when you paste and it shortens but after the cursor and it doesn't scroll but that one is known
[18:36] <BUGabundo> good evening asac fta and the rest of the ppl in here!
[18:36] <asac> jcastro: all fine. thanks. should definitly be default
[18:36] <jcastro> I'll let him know
[18:36] <asac> or maybe make that "auto shorten if text would exceed"
[18:37] <jcastro> he just wants to get the account information into gnome keyring and he will release a tarball
[18:37] <asac> could be quite funky: like the url is always full when it fits ... and gets auto shortened when you type and hit the 140 bound
[18:37] <jcastro> he's aware of the jaunty deadlines
[18:37] <BUGabundo> hey asac yesterday I was getting that annoing wifi timeout on an unprotected network! :(
[18:37] <BUGabundo> thought it was fixed!
[18:37] <asac> cool. lets see how much candy he can still provide
[18:37] <asac> default would be good quick solution though
[18:37] <asac> hi BUGabundo
[18:37] <BUGabundo> I know .. OT
[18:38] <asac> BUGabundo: are you running NM 0.7 final packages from PPA?
[18:38] <BUGabundo> nope
[18:38] <BUGabundo> I think I have the archive version
[18:38] <BUGabundo> let me check
[18:38] <asac> so the intrepid/jaunty default?
[18:38] <asac> please check
[18:38] <asac> otherwise try those
[18:39] <BUGabundo> network-manager:
[18:39] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu2
[18:39] <BUGabundo>   Candidate: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu2
[18:39] <BUGabundo>   Version table:
[18:39] <BUGabundo>  *** 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu2 0
[18:39] <BUGabundo>         500 ftp://darkstar.ist.utl.pt jaunty/main Packages
[18:39] <BUGabundo>         500 ftp://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[18:39] <BUGabundo>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:39] <asac> BUGabundo: ok try ppa version (~network-manager)
[18:41] <BUGabundo> will do next time I get a place where I can test it again...
[18:41] <BUGabundo> where I'm right now (WPA2 entreprise) current driver works great... I better not mess with it!
[18:42] <BUGabundo> but I guess I can download a deb from the PPA to install in case I have no wifi then.... lol
[19:12] <BUGabundo> asac: what is the apt-get parameter to just download the PPA NM? I don't to install it right now!
[19:12] <BUGabundo> found it --download-only
[19:16] <BUGabundo> humm NM is being kept back!
[19:16] <BUGabundo> maybe some dep missing!
[19:35] <[reed]> asac: hah, then ping me :)
[19:35] <[reed]> asac: and I can push for you
[20:21] <wikz> fta: Hi, is it enough if I have a project.conf file in debian/mozclient ? here is my conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102332/ and my rules file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102334/
[20:22] <wikz> when I do a get-orig-source, it says make: *** No rule to make target `.../spicebird-0.7/debian/spicebird.conf'.  Stop.
[20:35] <wikz> asac: ^^
[22:31] <asac> wikz: you probably need to ship debian/spicebird.conf
[22:33] <fta> hi
[22:33] <asac> he
[22:33] <asac> y
[22:34] <fta> wikz, yes, the .conf is enough, the .mk was useful when everything with hosted inside m-d, now, it could be inside debian/rules too
[22:34] <fta> -with+was
[22:34] <asac> fta: maybe its easier (template wise) to put that in an isolated debian/ file?
[22:35]  * fta should not type after n pints of guiness
[22:36] <fta> wikz, do you have MOZCLIENT_PROJECTDIR := $(CURDIR)/debian/mozclient ??
[22:37] <fta> as i mentioned in the README, you need to isolate the .conf as $(MOZCLIENT_PROJECTDIR)/patches would be considered by mozclient, and then, if it's not isolated, there's a confusion with debian/patches
[22:39] <fta> i recommend MOZCLIENT_PROJECTDIR := $(CURDIR)/debian/mozclient. It could be anything but $(CURDIR)/debian (empty means $(CURDIR)/debian)
[22:40] <asac> fta: what would mozclient do with those patches? (if not isolated)? apply after checkout?
[22:42] <fta> see ff3.0, $(MOZCLIENT_PROJECTDIR)/patches is used by quilt to patch mozilla/client.mk for ex
[22:43] <asac> fta: is there a special stae where this is applied?
[22:43] <asac> e.g. first checkout mozilla/client.mk
[22:43] <asac> then apply patches
[22:43] <asac> then the rest?
[22:45] <fta> so for, it's only implemented for cvs, and when MOZCLIENT_WANTPATCH is set
[22:45] <fta> far
[22:45] <asac> k
[22:46] <fta> it's $obj->get_client()
[22:47] <fta> all other VCS have that method but it's not doing anything
[22:50] <asac> i would prefer if we would have clearly defined stages where patches get applied
[22:50] <asac> of course not urgent ;)
[22:51] <fta> use case?
[22:51] <asac> like MOZCLIENT_CHECKOUT_PHASES=getmozclient,getfulltree,wipenobinonly
[22:51] <fta> imho, it's not useful neither before, not afterward
[22:51] <asac> MOZCLIENT_CHECKOUT_PHASE_getmozclient = some command
[22:52] <asac> MOZCLIENT_CHECKOUT_PHASE_getmozclient_POSTPATCHES = PATH/TO/PATCHES
[22:52] <asac> fta: after first stage its useful for client.mk (ffox)
[22:52] <asac> after its definitly useful
[22:52] <asac> e.g. i could produce patched origs
[22:53] <fta> imho patched orig is not right, it's no longer orig, such patches should be in the packaging
[22:59] <asac> depends
[22:59] <asac> if you want to maintain a derivitive and so on it might make sense
[23:00] <fta> please file a wish bug, so i don't forget
[23:15] <Sekhemty> hi to everyone!