superm1andersk, yikes, i'll take care of that right now00:57
superm1andersk, thanks for catching that01:00
Ngwould I be mad for expecting video playback to be not significantly different among cards with proper drivers? Since there's basically no video decoding acceleration these days and 2d performance is much of a muchness?10:26
NgI only ask because in my endless swapping of hardware I tried an nv 7600GT last night and it was completely unable to play a 1080p h.264 video from nasa, but the onboard G45 while not perfect did a much better job of it10:27
bryceNg: with -nv or -nvidia?11:09
bryceI could imagine -nv being especially sucky11:10
Ngbryce: -nvidia11:13
NgI was a little surprised to be honest. it's a weedy CPU, but I figured that would be the same amount of a bottleneck on any card since there's no hardware acceleration involved11:13
bryceI could imagine -nv being especially sucky11:14
bryceyeah, -nvidia ought to be fine.  But who knows, -nvidia is a world unto itself11:15
brycereally, comparing any experiences with -nvidia to any other linux driver is as good as comparing windows behaviors to linux11:16
tseliotNg: nvidia driver 180.11 + vdpau-enabled mplayer + one of the gpus supported by vdpau should help: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=28f416fa08063af2fdd8490233da8291&t=12309111:18
tseliottoo bad geforce 7xxx are not supported11:19
Ngtseliot: sure, I'm probably going to order a 9xxx today, but I was just surprised that it seemed to be worse11:19
Ngthe reality is that I will go mad if I have to use mplayer all the time ;)11:19
Ngbut I'm going to stick with nvidia because they seem to do an infinitely better job of talking to a big TV than anyone else11:20
Ngeven the bios is scaled automagically to 1080p so my TV doesn't have to confuse itself trying to display rubbishy old DOS video modes11:20
tseliotNg: you can use totem with ffmpeg (again it has to be vdpau enabled)11:21
Ng(I'm entirely happy to patch ffmpeg/mplayer/xine)11:22
Ngbut totem with ffmpeg.... I would have thought not?11:22
Ngthe only backends are gstreamer and xine?11:22
NgI could be very wrong here, but my understanding is that gst can use ffmpeg for (de|en)coders, but not as a video sink11:23
tseliotI don't know11:25
tseliottherefore I can be wrong11:25
* dennda waves13:22
denndaI just figured that the problem with my graphics card is already reported in this bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/25209413:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252094 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] Poor graphics performance and rendering errors on Intel GM965 system, Ubuntu 8.10" [Medium,Confirmed]13:23
denndaWhat I want to know: Whom may I blame for it not working properly? Is it intels fault? Will it get better in jaunty? How can I help? :-)13:23
Ngdennda: there are a lot of changes going on with the intel driver in the next couple of ubuntu releases, so it's likely that things will change :)14:08
denndaNg: "next couple of ubuntu releases" means I have to wait X * 6 months, where X is unknown? :-)14:09
Ngdennda: probably 214:15
Ngdennda: to some extent it's dependent on things getting into the upstream kernel14:18
denndahm ok, sad14:18
superm1bryce, there was a new nv driver release today that addresses color issues...20:18
brycesuperm1: ah cool20:18
superm1no mentions of the new X abi however, so i'm not sure it's that useful yet20:18
brycesuperm1: it turned out rick just had his monitor contrast/etc. controls set wrong20:18
Rocket2DMnhey guys, ive been talking with Brian in #ubuntu-bugs, he thinks that bug 313567 is probably an X bug instead of kernel22:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 313567 in linux "[Jaunty] Suspend/resume restarts X session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31356722:56
Rocket2DMnIs there somebody who would help me get it triaged?22:56
bdmurraybryce: Rocket2DMn is saying that X restarts after resuming from suspend22:58
bdmurrayon jaunty with the ati driver22:59
bdmurraybryce_: ?23:01
bryceRocket2DMn: interesting, loading your url crashed xchat. lemme try that again23:03
brycewhat fun23:04
Rocket2DMnok, i'm gonna run afk for about 20 minutes.  please let me know either here or on my bug report what else you need to complete the bug triage.  Thanks guys.23:11
brycesorry, distracted by this xchat crash bug, trying to convince upstream it really is a bug23:30
bryceah the joys of running a development distro on your desktop...23:30
bryceRocket2DMn: if it is an X crash then there will be a backtrace printed to /var/log/Xorg.0.log or errors to a file in /var/log/gdm/.  23:36
bryceRocket2DMn: if that's the case, then the next step is to collect a full backtrace via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing23:37
Nghmm interesting, the nvidia card is only running a PCI-E 4x23:41
Ngmaybe the G45 is stealing 16X and that's why it was doing the video better23:41
Rocket2DMnbryce, i'll go ahead and attach the log file.  i need to restart the laptop becuase the screen died and wont come back up23:52
Rocket2DMni did see a file in /var/log/gdm with some stuff in it as well23:52
Rocket2DMnbryce, should i change the bug package to xorg?23:54

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