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SputScottK: what's bad about boys and beer with 17?00:34
SputI would have killed my parents if they had wanted to chaperone me at that age :)00:35
seeleSput: culture class :)00:35
Sputor run away at least, to not get into jail for homicide :)00:35
Sputalso, I learned a new word today: "chaperone"00:37
JontheEchidnathere's also that whole "illegal" bit :P00:45
JontheEchidnawhile (age < 21){ beer == illegal; age++}00:47
* neversfelde googles chaperone00:50
neversfeldeaha Anstandsdame^^00:51
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nhandlerJontheEchidna: I think a for loop might be better in that case ;)01:11
JontheEchidnamy c++ skillz aren't all that good ^_^01:11
nhandlerAnd you want 1 = not 2. That isn't even c++ specific. Those are just general programming things01:13
JontheEchidnaHaha: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/01:20
JontheEchidnabindings ftbfs in -ninjas01:20
jjessewho does the kubuntu website again?02:15
jjessethanks vorian02:17
jjesseryanakca you will have mail :)02:17
vorianno problemo02:17
ryanakcajjesse: hurra!02:19
ryanakcajjesse: ... where did you send it to?02:19
jjesseryanakca: writing still02:19
ryanakcajjesse: ah, ok02:19
jjesseryanakca AT kubuntu dot .org02:19
jjessei thought riddell's email was jr @ ubuntu dot com is that not correct?02:24
Hobbseejjesse: he probably has many02:24
JontheEchidnayeah, his LP page has like 5 email addys02:24
jjessegot a mail undeliverable02:24
jjesseah jriddell @ ubuntu DOt com02:25
jjessemy mistake02:25
ryanakcajjesse: I've added writing a reply to my todo for tomorrow night, time for bed... sounds very doable, at least from my side (theming and linking to it from the rest of our sites)02:52
jjesseryanakca: cool, i think it would be nice to hae the kbuuntu doc's available online + google friendly03:01
vorianRiddell: i was able to fix bug 29852903:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 298529 in network-manager "wpa key dialogue in 8.10 does not focus on the password field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29852903:20
vorianbug 29859203:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 298592 in kdebase-workspace "KDM can't use language choosen in systemsettings" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29859203:21
vorianthat one :)03:21
ScottKSput: That's about how she feels about it too (wants to kill us).05:08
ScottKOf course I'd feel differently if I was one of the 17 year old boys and not a father of one of the girls in question.05:09
vorianok, i'm done for the night05:21
ScottKWhy oh why does kde4.mk.in have DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR = debian/tmp when none of the others do?06:37
ScottKIt meant I had to redo all the .install files for quassel.06:37
* ScottK grumbles about gratuitous incompatibility.06:37
ScottK-laptopSo this is from the quassel git snapshot.06:43
ScottK-laptopSeems to work in the monolithic one.06:44
ScottK-desktopScottK-laptop: Does the notification work in KDE?06:44
ScottK-laptopGot the sound, but not the popup.06:44
ScottK-desktopScottK-laptop: How about now.06:45
ScottK-laptopWorks great if you turn off the focus stealing prevention.06:46
ScottK-laptopDoesn't look like a Gnome popup anymore either.06:46
ScottKapachelogger: I committed the quassel changes to bzr.  It's all wonderful (if perhaps feeling a bit hacky) except now quassel-core wants to depend on kde.06:54
* ScottK is going to bed. I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look at that.06:54
Lurecheck this out: http://www.zmogo.com/gear/the-new-year-linux-resolution-day-6/10:01
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jussi01Lure: did you get that digicam uploaded to the ppa yet?10:26
jussi01err... digikam :D10:29
Lurejussi01: it is in jaunty already11:35
Lurejussi01: and in digikam-experimental PPA for intrepid11:36
jussi01Lure: yeah, Im on intrepid though..11:36
Lurejussi01: then please test (as I do not have any intrepid around) ;-)11:36
Lurejussi01: https://launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive11:36
jussi01so digikam-experimentl, not the experimental with the 4.2  beta?11:36
Lurejussi01: it needs 4.2 packages though11:37
Lureat least libkexiv2, libkdcraw and libksane11:37
jussi01Lure: yeah, Im on the 4.2 intrepid11:37
Lurefrom kdegraphics11:37
jussi01just adding the repo11:37
jussi01Lure: will this auto update the old kde3 one I have?11:38
Lurejussi01: yes, as the package is named the same11:39
jussi01cool. installing now11:39
jussi01Lure: it sigsegv's...11:44
jussi01Lure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102685/11:45
Lurejussi01: does marble work on your system?11:48
Lurejussi01:  it looks like marble widget is reading some strange directory for it's plugins11:49
Lurejussi01: just run "marble"11:49
jussi01hrm, not installed11:50
Lurejussi01: ok, then you probably just have widget installed11:50
Lurejussi01: try removing .kde/share/config/marblerc11:50
jussi01Lure: it doesnt exist...11:51
Luredpkg -l | grep marble11:51
jussi01jussi@aaaa:~$ dpkg -l | grep marble11:52
jussi01ii  libmarble4                                4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1            Marble globe widget library11:52
Lurejussi01: problem is that Plugin System Path: is empty11:54
Lurejussi01: can you try removing that package and re-installing?11:54
jussi01didnt help11:57
Lurejussi01: it seems you need to install marble-data: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-devel/2008-October/021612.html11:59
jussi01let me try11:59
Lurejussi01: I think we should fix libmarble4 packaging to depend on marble-data11:59
LureRiddell: ^^^11:59
jussi01Lure: +1 on that11:59
Lureor marble developers should not crash if marble-data is not installed11:59
jussi01Lure: seems to work now :)12:02
Lurejussi01: good, please report if you have any problems/glitches that may be packaging dependand12:02
Lurejussi01: and same with kipi-plugins12:02
jussi01Lure: sure.12:02
Lurejussi01: will hunt some marble developers to fix kde bug 17283012:03
ubottuKDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17283012:03
RiddellLure: that sounds like a very good idea12:04
LureRiddell: yep, I think it is actually not a packaging issue - they should work even w/o data12:04
Lurehello, any marble developers around that can comment kde bug 17283012:05
ubottuKDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17283012:05
Luresorry, wrong channel12:07
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apachelogger!info kgamma jaunty13:00
ubottukgamma (source: kdegraphics): monitor calibration panel for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 75 kB, installed size 316 kB13:00
apacheloggerNCommander: ^13:00
jussi01apachelogger: ping13:04
jussi01apachelogger: does kubotu do lastfm stuff?13:05
apacheloggerjussi01: aye13:05
jussi01apachelogger: how does that work?13:05
apacheloggervia their api I would say13:05
jussi01apachelogger: no, literally... can you show me here in channel?13:05
kubotuapachelogger listened to "Ringing Bells" by Mando Diao [Hurricane Bar, 2004] 18 hours ago13:09
apachelogger~help lastfm13:10
kubotulastfm [<user>] => show your or <user>'s now playing track at lastfm. np [<user>] => same as 'lastfm'. other topics: events, artist, album, track, now, set, who, compare13:10
jussi01apachelogger: could you pop kubotu into #ubuntustudio-devel?13:11
kubotujussi01 listened to "Ordinary Day" by Vanessa Carlton [Be Not Nobody, 2002] 4 months ago13:11
apacheloggerkubotu: join #ubuntustudio-devel13:11
jussi01havent used lastfm for ages13:11
jussi01thanks apachelogger13:11
* apachelogger continues the search for sensible openoffice api documentation13:12
JontheEchidnaisn't openoffice documentation an oxymoron?13:14
vorianKubuntu Ninja’s - Packagers in Unicorn mode — This is by far the most melodramatic session title. One hour with Kubuntu hackers to find out what it’s all about! One thing’s for sure: Harald Sitter and Stephen Stalcup and talk to you about Kubuntu Packaging and how best to do it. It’s going to be great!13:15
vorianlove the title13:16
jussi01lol, love it13:16
JontheEchidnamy mom looked at me funny when I burst out laughing13:16
apacheloggerI love the combinitaton of "One thing" and and and and and13:17
* apachelogger switches to pony mode and continues search13:18
Tm_Tpony boy, carry me home13:19
Lurewho is doing 4.2rc packages?13:29
ScottKapachelogger: Any chance you could look at quassel?13:34
apacheloggerScottK: not before tomorrow13:35
ScottKapachelogger: OK.  I'll ping you then if I don't get it sorted.13:36
JontheEchidnaLure: apachelogger, myself, nhandler, vorian and Riddell13:44
LureJontheEchidna: whoever is doing kdeedu, can it fix Depends for Marble (move libmarble4 should depend on marble-data)13:46
Luresee kde bug 17283013:46
ubottuKDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17283013:46
JontheEchidnaLure: perfect, I'm doing kdeedu :-)13:46
JontheEchidnaor rather, did last night13:47
JontheEchidnayeah, if it fixes a bug then it's definitely worth redoing13:47
LureJontheEchidna: great, it fixes crasher bug on digikam13:47
JontheEchidnaactually if it's just adding a dependency I don't think I'll need to re-testbuild edu13:48
* Lure has to get used to new Kubuntu ninja's nickname 13:48
vorianme too13:50
apacheloggerI have to download an external tool to inspect an object in openoffice basic13:51
apacheloggerwhat the heck13:51
Lurewhich ninja did fixes for armel architecture? I have some qreal/double problems in digikam...14:00
Lurenot sure if this should be just solved with casting14:00
RiddellLure: NCommander is your man for that14:02
RiddellLure: I hope you havn't been winding up annma too much :)14:03
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LureRiddell: that was not my intention and I hope everything is fine ;-)14:06
Lurevorian: I found them: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas14:13
Lurevorian:  and you are one of them ;-)14:13
RiddellLure: yeah it's entirely normal, upstreams always get upset when packagers do anything wrong to their apps14:20
* Nightrose doesn't - she just goes and borrows Hobbsee's Long Pointy Stick Of Doooooooooooom14:28
JontheEchidnathat stick is even scarier than pinotree!14:29
Nightrosepino is cuddly14:29
Nightrosenot scary14:29
JontheEchidnayou've obviously never messed up his app :P14:29
Nightrose*lol* i didn't indeed14:29
Tm_TJontheEchidna: which one of them?14:30
Tm_Tand how many times?14:30
JontheEchidnaokular, once14:30
* Tm_T used to mess his head too14:30
Riddellwell, kpdf14:30
Riddellreplacing kpdf's internal xpdf with poppler14:31
JontheEchidnawell, that one wasn't me :P14:31
Riddelland the kwin size rules for okular which broke full screen PDFs14:31
RiddellJontheEchidna: what did you do?14:31
JontheEchidnaadded a patch that took away the stupid multiple status popups during search14:31
JontheEchidnathough looking at how search is done now in 4.2 I'm sure the only difference is implementation ;-)14:32
LureRiddell: do you know if armel will be added to PPA?14:35
Lurewould help in testing armel fixes14:36
RiddellLure: I doubt it, I wouldn't let it block an upload though, NCommander or someone can come along and fix it later if it's needed14:38
LureRiddell: I can probably fix this build failure, but it may take several uploads to fix all problems (since I do not have armel)14:45
LureRiddell: will ask nhandler if there is simplier way (like turn some warnings on), to find potential armel build issues14:46
ScottKLure: NCommander, not nhandler.14:46
LureScottK: thanks for correcting me14:53
* Lure is bad with new nicknames ;-)14:53
LureJontheEchidna: if you want to follow marble packaging issue, you may want to subscribe to kde bug 17283015:20
ubottuKDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17283015:20
LureJontheEchidna: debian developers now got involved in discussion, we just need Marble developer to make final call15:21
Lurefor the time being adding depends is still good enough workaround15:21
Lureshould usb automount work in intrepid also for kde3 apps15:39
Lure16:00 < Morydd> any ideas why, after upgrading to Ubuntu Intrepid (and consequently Digikam 0.9.4), digiKam no longer automatically opens when I connect the camera?15:39
Lureor this works just for kde4?15:39
kubotujussi01 is listening to "Run" by Snow Patrol15:57
kubotuRiddell listened to "She's The One(Ft. Royce Da 5'9" by Eminem 2 years ago15:58
RiddellI think that's a different riddell15:58
kubotudualscreenman listened to "In The End" by Izzo 3 days ago15:58
jjesse_not an eminem fan?15:58
Riddelleminem is not within my collection and it's not what lastfm is currently playing me15:59
kubotuvorian listened to "Disconnect the Dots" by of Montreal 5 weeks ago16:05
kubotuScottK hasn't played anything recently16:06
ScottKThat's right at least.16:07
voriani don't even know who Montreal is ...16:07
jjesse_~np jjesse16:07
kubotujjesse hasn't played anything recently16:07
kubotusmarter listened to "When I'm Sixty-Four" by The Beatles [Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, 1990] 3 weeks ago16:09
smarterhmm, I probably disabled the lastfm plugin in amarok somehow16:10
ScottKSput: If I build quassel with -DWITH_KDE=ON then quassel-core gets built depending on kde.17:17
ScottKDropping just that flag fixes it, so I suspect you are requiring something for all packages with -DWITH_KDE=ON that should just be for quassel and quassel-client.17:18
ScottKSput: Help.17:18
Riddellrun ldd on the libaries and binaries see what depends on what kde library17:20
SputScottK: well, enabling it creates a proper KDE binary for the core (which mean, it parses KDE's command line options)17:27
SputI guess that's not needed necessarily?17:27
ScottKWell I really don't want to run KDE or even X on my server were the core is living.17:28
ScottKSput: ^^17:28
Sputof course, I was thinking that for such cases you can just build it with -DWITH_KDE=0, but I guess for packagers it's easier to just ignore that flag for the core17:29
cbrhmm.. why do i have eth2?17:29
cbrbut no eth0?17:29
SputI can change that I guess17:30
cbrhmm.. i changed linux-firmware or smth cuz nothing depended on it17:30
cbrseems that my iwl3945 needs it though17:30
ScottKSput: Yes.  Please.17:30
Sputcrap. ScottK: this is not trivial, I'm afraid, and I probably won't be able to solve that problem tonight17:42
Sputa few things in our common lib (to be used by both core and UI) have different code paths for KDE or ont17:42
ScottKSput: OK.  I'll wait then.  This is part of why I wanted to do an early snapshot.17:43
Sputyep, I should be able to commit something tomorrow17:43
ScottKJust let me know and I'll pull another snapshot.  Please don't break other stuff in the meantime.17:44
SputI'm trying hard to :)17:44
* ScottK is now officially out of excuses for procastinating $WORK. Darn.17:47
Sputgo rewrite our CliParser in an AbstractCliParser that can then be instiated with or without KDE support :)17:52
Sputthat should keep you procrastinating for another hour or so17:52
ScottK-desktopThat'd be about 6 months as I'd have to learn how to program in something other than Python first.17:55
LaserJockScottK: woah, wait! you $WORK!!! ;-)17:55
ScottK-desktopNot so far.  Still procrastinating on IRC.17:55
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doc__hi there o/21:37
Nightrosedoc__ is doing it wrong!21:56
doc__i'm constipated... and getting more and more crazy haha22:00
ScottKdoc__: Too much information.22:13
doc__ScottK: :P22:14
jussi01ScottK: you got to learn the factoids :D23:44
jussi01!tmi | doc__23:44
ubottudoc__: Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...23:44
doc__ops... sorry :/23:49
* jussi01 has no idea why he is up at this time23:50

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