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| Sput | ScottK: what's bad about boys and beer with 17? | 00:34 |
|---|---|---|
| Sput | I would have killed my parents if they had wanted to chaperone me at that age :) | 00:35 |
| seele | Sput: culture class :) | 00:35 |
| Sput | or run away at least, to not get into jail for homicide :) | 00:35 |
| Sput | also, I learned a new word today: "chaperone" | 00:37 |
| JontheEchidna | there's also that whole "illegal" bit :P | 00:45 |
| JontheEchidna | while (age < 21){ beer == illegal; age++} | 00:47 |
| * neversfelde googles chaperone | 00:50 | |
| neversfelde | aha Anstandsdame^^ | 00:51 |
| === emma_ is now known as emma | ||
| nhandler | JontheEchidna: I think a for loop might be better in that case ;) | 01:11 |
| JontheEchidna | my c++ skillz aren't all that good ^_^ | 01:11 |
| nhandler | And you want 1 = not 2. That isn't even c++ specific. Those are just general programming things | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | Haha: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ | 01:20 |
| JontheEchidna | bindings ftbfs in -ninjas | 01:20 |
| jjesse | who does the kubuntu website again? | 02:15 |
| vorian | ryanakca | 02:17 |
| jjesse | thanks vorian | 02:17 |
| jjesse | ryanakca you will have mail :) | 02:17 |
| vorian | no problemo | 02:17 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: hurra! | 02:19 |
| jjesse | :) | 02:19 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: ... where did you send it to? | 02:19 |
| jjesse | ryanakca: writing still | 02:19 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: ah, ok | 02:19 |
| jjesse | ryanakca AT kubuntu dot .org | 02:19 |
| ryanakca | *nod* | 02:19 |
| jjesse | i thought riddell's email was jr @ ubuntu dot com is that not correct? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: he probably has many | 02:24 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, his LP page has like 5 email addys | 02:24 |
| jjesse | got a mail undeliverable | 02:24 |
| jjesse | ah jriddell @ ubuntu DOt com | 02:25 |
| jjesse | my mistake | 02:25 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: I've added writing a reply to my todo for tomorrow night, time for bed... sounds very doable, at least from my side (theming and linking to it from the rest of our sites) | 02:52 |
| jjesse | ryanakca: cool, i think it would be nice to hae the kbuuntu doc's available online + google friendly | 03:01 |
| vorian | Riddell: i was able to fix bug 298529 | 03:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 298529 in network-manager "wpa key dialogue in 8.10 does not focus on the password field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298529 | 03:20 |
| vorian | erm | 03:21 |
| vorian | bug 298592 | 03:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 298592 in kdebase-workspace "KDM can't use language choosen in systemsettings" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298592 | 03:21 |
| vorian | that one :) | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Sput: That's about how she feels about it too (wants to kill us). | 05:08 |
| ScottK | Of course I'd feel differently if I was one of the 17 year old boys and not a father of one of the girls in question. | 05:09 |
| vorian | ok, i'm done for the night | 05:21 |
| DaSkreech | night | 05:26 |
| ScottK | Why oh why does kde4.mk.in have DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR = debian/tmp when none of the others do? | 06:37 |
| ScottK | It meant I had to redo all the .install files for quassel. | 06:37 |
| * ScottK grumbles about gratuitous incompatibility. | 06:37 | |
| ScottK-laptop | So this is from the quassel git snapshot. | 06:43 |
| ScottK-laptop | Seems to work in the monolithic one. | 06:44 |
| ScottK-desktop | ScottK-laptop: Does the notification work in KDE? | 06:44 |
| ScottK-laptop | Got the sound, but not the popup. | 06:44 |
| ScottK-laptop | Right. | 06:45 |
| ScottK-desktop | ScottK-laptop: How about now. | 06:45 |
| ScottK-laptop | Works great if you turn off the focus stealing prevention. | 06:46 |
| ScottK-laptop | Doesn't look like a Gnome popup anymore either. | 06:46 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I committed the quassel changes to bzr. It's all wonderful (if perhaps feeling a bit hacky) except now quassel-core wants to depend on kde. | 06:54 |
| * ScottK is going to bed. I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look at that. | 06:54 | |
| Lure | check this out: http://www.zmogo.com/gear/the-new-year-linux-resolution-day-6/ | 10:01 |
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| Riddell | goodness | 10:13 |
| jussi01 | Lure: did you get that digicam uploaded to the ppa yet? | 10:26 |
| jussi01 | err... digikam :D | 10:29 |
| Lure | jussi01: it is in jaunty already | 11:35 |
| Lure | jussi01: and in digikam-experimental PPA for intrepid | 11:36 |
| jussi01 | Lure: yeah, Im on intrepid though.. | 11:36 |
| jussi01 | ok | 11:36 |
| Lure | jussi01: then please test (as I do not have any intrepid around) ;-) | 11:36 |
| Lure | jussi01: https://launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive | 11:36 |
| jussi01 | so digikam-experimentl, not the experimental with the 4.2 beta? | 11:36 |
| jussi01 | ok | 11:36 |
| Lure | jussi01: it needs 4.2 packages though | 11:37 |
| Lure | at least libkexiv2, libkdcraw and libksane | 11:37 |
| jussi01 | Lure: yeah, Im on the 4.2 intrepid | 11:37 |
| Lure | from kdegraphics | 11:37 |
| jussi01 | just adding the repo | 11:37 |
| jussi01 | Lure: will this auto update the old kde3 one I have? | 11:38 |
| Lure | jussi01: yes, as the package is named the same | 11:39 |
| jussi01 | cool. installing now | 11:39 |
| jussi01 | Lure: it sigsegv's... | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | Lure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102685/ | 11:45 |
| Lure | jussi01: does marble work on your system? | 11:48 |
| Lure | jussi01: it looks like marble widget is reading some strange directory for it's plugins | 11:49 |
| jussi01 | marble? | 11:49 |
| Lure | jussi01: just run "marble" | 11:49 |
| jussi01 | hrm, not installed | 11:50 |
| Lure | jussi01: ok, then you probably just have widget installed | 11:50 |
| Lure | jussi01: try removing .kde/share/config/marblerc | 11:50 |
| jussi01 | Lure: it doesnt exist... | 11:51 |
| Lure | dpkg -l | grep marble | 11:51 |
| jussi01 | jussi@aaaa:~$ dpkg -l | grep marble | 11:52 |
| jussi01 | ii libmarble4 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 Marble globe widget library | 11:52 |
| Lure | jussi01: problem is that Plugin System Path: is empty | 11:54 |
| Lure | jussi01: can you try removing that package and re-installing? | 11:54 |
| jussi01 | sure | 11:54 |
| jussi01 | didnt help | 11:57 |
| Lure | jussi01: it seems you need to install marble-data: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-devel/2008-October/021612.html | 11:59 |
| jussi01 | ahhh | 11:59 |
| jussi01 | let me try | 11:59 |
| Lure | jussi01: I think we should fix libmarble4 packaging to depend on marble-data | 11:59 |
| Lure | Riddell: ^^^ | 11:59 |
| jussi01 | Lure: +1 on that | 11:59 |
| Lure | or marble developers should not crash if marble-data is not installed | 11:59 |
| jussi01 | Lure: seems to work now :) | 12:02 |
| Lure | jussi01: good, please report if you have any problems/glitches that may be packaging dependand | 12:02 |
| Lure | jussi01: and same with kipi-plugins | 12:02 |
| jussi01 | Lure: sure. | 12:02 |
| Lure | jussi01: will hunt some marble developers to fix kde bug 172830 | 12:03 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172830 | 12:03 |
| jussi01 | :) | 12:03 |
| Riddell | Lure: that sounds like a very good idea | 12:04 |
| Lure | Riddell: yep, I think it is actually not a packaging issue - they should work even w/o data | 12:04 |
| Lure | hello, any marble developers around that can comment kde bug 172830 | 12:05 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172830 | 12:05 |
| Lure | sorry, wrong channel | 12:07 |
| Lure | ETOMANYCHANNELS ;-) | 12:07 |
| === emonkey-t is now known as emonkex | ||
| === emonkex is now known as emonkey-t | ||
| apachelogger | !info kgamma jaunty | 13:00 |
| ubottu | kgamma (source: kdegraphics): monitor calibration panel for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 75 kB, installed size 316 kB | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: ^ | 13:00 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: ping | 13:04 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: does kubotu do lastfm stuff? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: aye | 13:05 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: how does that work? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | via their api I would say | 13:05 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: no, literally... can you show me here in channel? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 13:09 |
| kubotu | apachelogger listened to "Ringing Bells" by Mando Diao [Hurricane Bar, 2004] 18 hours ago | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | ~help lastfm | 13:10 |
| kubotu | lastfm [<user>] => show your or <user>'s now playing track at lastfm. np [<user>] => same as 'lastfm'. other topics: events, artist, album, track, now, set, who, compare | 13:10 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: could you pop kubotu into #ubuntustudio-devel? | 13:11 |
| jussi01 | ~np | 13:11 |
| kubotu | jussi01 listened to "Ordinary Day" by Vanessa Carlton [Be Not Nobody, 2002] 4 months ago | 13:11 |
| jussi01 | lol | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: join #ubuntustudio-devel | 13:11 |
| jussi01 | havent used lastfm for ages | 13:11 |
| jussi01 | thanks apachelogger | 13:11 |
| * apachelogger continues the search for sensible openoffice api documentation | 13:12 | |
| JontheEchidna | isn't openoffice documentation an oxymoron? | 13:14 |
| vorian | haha | 13:15 |
| vorian | Kubuntu Ninja’s - Packagers in Unicorn mode — This is by far the most melodramatic session title. One hour with Kubuntu hackers to find out what it’s all about! One thing’s for sure: Harald Sitter and Stephen Stalcup and talk to you about Kubuntu Packaging and how best to do it. It’s going to be great! | 13:15 |
| vorian | love the title | 13:16 |
| jussi01 | lol, love it | 13:16 |
| JontheEchidna | my mom looked at me funny when I burst out laughing | 13:16 |
| JontheEchidna | <.< | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | muahaha | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | I love the combinitaton of "One thing" and and and and and | 13:17 |
| * apachelogger switches to pony mode and continues search | 13:18 | |
| Tm_T | pony boy, carry me home | 13:19 |
| Lure | who is doing 4.2rc packages? | 13:29 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Any chance you could look at quassel? | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: not before tomorrow | 13:35 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. I'll ping you then if I don't get it sorted. | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | ok | 13:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Lure: apachelogger, myself, nhandler, vorian and Riddell | 13:44 |
| Lure | JontheEchidna: whoever is doing kdeedu, can it fix Depends for Marble (move libmarble4 should depend on marble-data) | 13:46 |
| Lure | see kde bug 172830 | 13:46 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172830 | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | Lure: perfect, I'm doing kdeedu :-) | 13:46 |
| vorian | haha | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | or rather, did last night | 13:47 |
| vorian | re-do | 13:47 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, if it fixes a bug then it's definitely worth redoing | 13:47 |
| Lure | JontheEchidna: great, it fixes crasher bug on digikam | 13:47 |
| JontheEchidna | actually if it's just adding a dependency I don't think I'll need to re-testbuild edu | 13:48 |
| * Lure has to get used to new Kubuntu ninja's nickname | 13:48 | |
| Lure | ;-) | 13:48 |
| vorian | me too | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | I have to download an external tool to inspect an object in openoffice basic | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | what the heck | 13:51 |
| Lure | which ninja did fixes for armel architecture? I have some qreal/double problems in digikam... | 14:00 |
| Lure | not sure if this should be just solved with casting | 14:00 |
| Lure | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21038146/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-armel.digikam_2:0.10.0~beta8-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:00 |
| Riddell | Lure: NCommander is your man for that | 14:02 |
| Riddell | Lure: I hope you havn't been winding up annma too much :) | 14:03 |
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| Lure | Riddell: that was not my intention and I hope everything is fine ;-) | 14:06 |
| Lure | vorian: I found them: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas | 14:13 |
| Lure | vorian: and you are one of them ;-) | 14:13 |
| vorian | OHMY!! | 14:18 |
| Riddell | Lure: yeah it's entirely normal, upstreams always get upset when packagers do anything wrong to their apps | 14:20 |
| * Nightrose doesn't - she just goes and borrows Hobbsee's Long Pointy Stick Of Doooooooooooom | 14:28 | |
| Nightrose | :P | 14:28 |
| Tm_T | noooooo | 14:28 |
| Nightrose | yes! | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | that stick is even scarier than pinotree! | 14:29 |
| Nightrose | *lol* | 14:29 |
| Tm_T | pin-o-tree | 14:29 |
| Nightrose | pino is cuddly | 14:29 |
| Nightrose | not scary | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | you've obviously never messed up his app :P | 14:29 |
| Nightrose | *lol* i didn't indeed | 14:29 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: which one of them? | 14:30 |
| Tm_T | and how many times? | 14:30 |
| JontheEchidna | okular, once | 14:30 |
| Tm_T | bah | 14:30 |
| Riddell | twice | 14:30 |
| JontheEchidna | twice? | 14:30 |
| * Tm_T used to mess his head too | 14:30 | |
| Riddell | well, kpdf | 14:30 |
| Riddell | replacing kpdf's internal xpdf with poppler | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | well, that one wasn't me :P | 14:31 |
| Riddell | and the kwin size rules for okular which broke full screen PDFs | 14:31 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what did you do? | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | added a patch that took away the stupid multiple status popups during search | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | though looking at how search is done now in 4.2 I'm sure the only difference is implementation ;-) | 14:32 |
| Lure | Riddell: do you know if armel will be added to PPA? | 14:35 |
| Lure | would help in testing armel fixes | 14:36 |
| Riddell | Lure: I doubt it, I wouldn't let it block an upload though, NCommander or someone can come along and fix it later if it's needed | 14:38 |
| Lure | Riddell: I can probably fix this build failure, but it may take several uploads to fix all problems (since I do not have armel) | 14:45 |
| Lure | Riddell: will ask nhandler if there is simplier way (like turn some warnings on), to find potential armel build issues | 14:46 |
| ScottK | Lure: NCommander, not nhandler. | 14:46 |
| Lure | ScottK: thanks for correcting me | 14:53 |
| * Lure is bad with new nicknames ;-) | 14:53 | |
| Lure | JontheEchidna: if you want to follow marble packaging issue, you may want to subscribe to kde bug 172830 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 172830 in general "crashes at startup if marble-data is not installed" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172830 | 15:20 |
| Lure | JontheEchidna: debian developers now got involved in discussion, we just need Marble developer to make final call | 15:21 |
| Lure | for the time being adding depends is still good enough workaround | 15:21 |
| Lure | should usb automount work in intrepid also for kde3 apps | 15:39 |
| Lure | 16:00 < Morydd> any ideas why, after upgrading to Ubuntu Intrepid (and consequently Digikam 0.9.4), digiKam no longer automatically opens when I connect the camera? | 15:39 |
| Lure | or this works just for kde4? | 15:39 |
| jussi01 | ~np | 15:57 |
| kubotu | jussi01 is listening to "Run" by Snow Patrol | 15:57 |
| Riddell | ~np | 15:58 |
| kubotu | Riddell listened to "She's The One(Ft. Royce Da 5'9" by Eminem 2 years ago | 15:58 |
| Riddell | ! | 15:58 |
| Riddell | I think that's a different riddell | 15:58 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 15:58 |
| JontheEchidna | ~lastfm | 15:58 |
| kubotu | dualscreenman listened to "In The End" by Izzo 3 days ago | 15:58 |
| jjesse_ | not an eminem fan? | 15:58 |
| Riddell | eminem is not within my collection and it's not what lastfm is currently playing me | 15:59 |
| jpds | Hahaha. | 15:59 |
| vorian | ~np | 16:05 |
| kubotu | vorian listened to "Disconnect the Dots" by of Montreal 5 weeks ago | 16:05 |
| vorian | wha? | 16:05 |
| ScottK | ~np | 16:06 |
| kubotu | ScottK hasn't played anything recently | 16:06 |
| ScottK | That's right at least. | 16:07 |
| vorian | i don't even know who Montreal is ... | 16:07 |
| jjesse_ | ~np jjesse | 16:07 |
| kubotu | jjesse hasn't played anything recently | 16:07 |
| smarter | ~np | 16:09 |
| kubotu | smarter listened to "When I'm Sixty-Four" by The Beatles [Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, 1990] 3 weeks ago | 16:09 |
| smarter | hmm, I probably disabled the lastfm plugin in amarok somehow | 16:10 |
| ScottK | Sput: If I build quassel with -DWITH_KDE=ON then quassel-core gets built depending on kde. | 17:17 |
| ScottK | Dropping just that flag fixes it, so I suspect you are requiring something for all packages with -DWITH_KDE=ON that should just be for quassel and quassel-client. | 17:18 |
| ScottK | Sput: Help. | 17:18 |
| Riddell | run ldd on the libaries and binaries see what depends on what kde library | 17:20 |
| Sput | ScottK: well, enabling it creates a proper KDE binary for the core (which mean, it parses KDE's command line options) | 17:27 |
| Sput | I guess that's not needed necessarily? | 17:27 |
| ScottK | Well I really don't want to run KDE or even X on my server were the core is living. | 17:28 |
| ScottK | Sput: ^^ | 17:28 |
| Sput | of course, I was thinking that for such cases you can just build it with -DWITH_KDE=0, but I guess for packagers it's easier to just ignore that flag for the core | 17:29 |
| cbr | hmm.. why do i have eth2? | 17:29 |
| cbr | but no eth0? | 17:29 |
| Sput | I can change that I guess | 17:30 |
| cbr | hmm.. i changed linux-firmware or smth cuz nothing depended on it | 17:30 |
| cbr | seems that my iwl3945 needs it though | 17:30 |
| ScottK | Sput: Yes. Please. | 17:30 |
| Sput | crap. ScottK: this is not trivial, I'm afraid, and I probably won't be able to solve that problem tonight | 17:42 |
| Sput | a few things in our common lib (to be used by both core and UI) have different code paths for KDE or ont | 17:42 |
| Sput | *not | 17:42 |
| ScottK | Sput: OK. I'll wait then. This is part of why I wanted to do an early snapshot. | 17:43 |
| Sput | yep, I should be able to commit something tomorrow | 17:43 |
| ScottK | Great. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | Just let me know and I'll pull another snapshot. Please don't break other stuff in the meantime. | 17:44 |
| Sput | I'm trying hard to :) | 17:44 |
| * ScottK is now officially out of excuses for procastinating $WORK. Darn. | 17:47 | |
| Sput | meh | 17:52 |
| Sput | go rewrite our CliParser in an AbstractCliParser that can then be instiated with or without KDE support :) | 17:52 |
| Sput | that should keep you procrastinating for another hour or so | 17:52 |
| ScottK-desktop | That'd be about 6 months as I'd have to learn how to program in something other than Python first. | 17:55 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: woah, wait! you $WORK!!! ;-) | 17:55 |
| ScottK-desktop | Not so far. Still procrastinating on IRC. | 17:55 |
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| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_away | ||
| doc__ | hi there o/ | 21:37 |
| JontheEchidna | \o | 21:40 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 21:41 |
| JontheEchidna | o-/< | 21:43 |
| JontheEchidna | o-\< | 21:43 |
| JontheEchidna | o-/< | 21:43 |
| Nightrose | \o/ | 21:54 |
| Nightrose | o/ | 21:55 |
| doc__ | \o/\o/\o\\\///o | 21:56 |
| Nightrose | doc__ is doing it wrong! | 21:56 |
| Nightrose | :( | 21:56 |
| doc__ | :P | 21:57 |
| doc__ | i'm constipated... and getting more and more crazy haha | 22:00 |
| ScottK | doc__: Too much information. | 22:13 |
| doc__ | ScottK: :P | 22:14 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: you got to learn the factoids :D | 23:44 |
| jussi01 | !tmi | doc__ | 23:44 |
| ubottu | doc__: Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that... | 23:44 |
| doc__ | ops... sorry :/ | 23:49 |
| jussi01 | lol | 23:50 |
| * jussi01 has no idea why he is up at this time | 23:50 | |
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