[00:10] <sehven> whats the diff between kubuntu -7 and kubuntu -9 in my boot? i noticed -9 was created after updates
[00:12] <PSiL0> god how I hate gstreamer
[00:13] <Szadek> last update of aya plasma theme messed it all up =/
[00:16] <JontheEchidna> sehven: -9 is a newer kernel
[00:17] <sehven> ohh
[00:17] <sehven> thx jontheEchidna
[00:17] <JontheEchidna> there should be a linux-image-generic-something-7 that you can remove now
[00:24] <sehven> do i really have to remove old kernel?
[00:27] <sehven> where do i edit login sound? somethings wrong with it, it always play short
[00:27] <sehven> unlike shutdown sound
[00:31] <sehven> yey! sounds work fine now ^__^
[00:43] <Digital_Pioneer> BazBaz: Hey, sorry to disappear on you. I can't honestly say what to do, I prefer distros that package the headers with the program. :P
[00:44] <chris_> hi
[00:44] <chris_> does anyone know whether there'll be bluetooth support in kde 4.2?
[01:05] <fislas> hola
[01:05] <fislas> rober
[01:05] <fislas> robert
[01:06] <fislas> robert
[01:06] <fislas> que hay
[01:07] <fislas> klmk
[01:07] <fislas> dme
[01:07] <respinosa> que paso
[01:08] <fislas> dlrm
[01:15] <SuspectZero> !pingme
[01:51] <wesley__> someone knows how i can edit files in osx from with -s boot
[01:55] <Bman_> hello, how can I create a kiosk system with only a minimal linux os and qt as the main interface?
[02:00] <stnormal> hey crimsun, you there?
[02:01] <crimsun> yes, busy ATM
[02:01] <stnormal> k
[02:08] <Bman_> is kubuntu good for a kisok system?
[02:15] <poochie> I used a kubuntu liveCD to resize a windows partition on a laptop (using gparted) so i can install kubuntu. The power was cut during the process. How can i repair/recover the partition?
[02:17] <poochie> gparted now calls it an unknown partition and I can't seem to find a way to access it
[02:18] <bdizzle> hi
[02:18] <bdizzle> I was wondering if it was safe to use QTParted to redistribute the partitions for my windows part of my computer to shrink it from 50 GB to 40 GB so that I can put more space on my laptop?
[02:20] <stnormal> you should probably just use windows to redistribute partitions
[02:20] <stnormal> err, at least the windows ones
[02:20] <bdizzle> I forgot how to do that in windows, without causing it to reformat itself
[02:21] <poochie> any thoughts on recovering a messed up partition stnormal?
[02:21] <stnormal> nope, sorry
[02:21] <poochie> alright
[02:22] <stnormal> hmm, I guess you can only do it if you have winXPMCE or later... vanilla XP doesn't have the resize option
[02:22] <stnormal> are you running vista or XPMCE?
[02:26] <bdizzle> XPMCE ?
[02:27] <bdizzle> ie, XP, or ME, or CE ?
[02:27] <stnormal> no, XP Media Center Edition
[02:27] <Taylor_M> I'm getting this weird error, something about 0x72, 0x80
[02:28] <stnormal> my pops has it on his computer, and I'm fairly certain I've managed partitions on it... I could be wrong, though... you might need Vista to resize active partitions with windows software. If you don't have Vista, maybe someone else can tell you how to resize partitions safely with gparted
[02:28] <Taylor_M> Sysenter_Do_Call 0x12/0x2f
[02:29] <Taylor_M> can anyone help with this?
[02:29] <LeeQ> Hello all, I have just installed Kubuntu 8.10 and need some help...
[02:30] <Zehava> I have installed mysql, and nmap shows the port is open, I created a new user, but I still can't connect from my laptop on the same network.  Any suggestions?
[02:30] <LeeQ> I have it plugged into my TV and it detected the default resolution (1920x1080) properly, but the text is HUGE
[02:30] <LeeQ> way too huge to manage
[02:30] <LeeQ> but when I go into the system setup it says everything is set to 9pt font
[02:31] <LeeQ> I have turned on the Nvidia drivers
[02:31] <stnormal> does kubuntu for x86-64 come with the 32bit gcc development package?
[02:31] <LeeQ> any ideas?
[02:31] <dwidmann> wow ... I have video scaling with the vesa driver ... that's different
[02:31] <stnormal> or do I need to install that myself?
[02:31] <bdizzle> stnormal: I've got XP Pro on it. Hopefully the last MS OS I'll have for a wihle
[02:31] <bdizzle> what is the difference between QT Parted and GParted?
[02:32] <dwidmann> bdizzle: different toolkit, they're separately developed, but they both use libparted to do all the work
[02:32] <bdizzle> okay
[02:33] <Taylor_M> I'm getting this weird error, something about 0x72, 0x80
[02:33] <Taylor_M> Sysenter_Do_Call 0x12/0x2f
[02:33] <Taylor_M> can anyone help with this?
[02:33] <Taylor_M> It happens when I try to boot, through WUBI or the live CD
[02:33] <Taylor_M> It says that and just freezes
[02:33] <poochie> seems TestDrive will do the trick for recovering my partitions. just a helpful tip for future needs
[02:34] <dwidmann> #290011
[02:34] <Taylor_M> It's version 8.10 BTW
[02:34] <dwidmann> by the looks of it
[02:35] <nonewmsgs> Taylor_M, have you tried the i86 version?
[02:35] <Taylor_M> yes, I have
[02:35] <Taylor_M> Intel Celeron D processor
[02:35] <dwidmann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/290011
[02:36] <Zehava> anyone can help me figure out why kubuntu wont' allow outside connections to mysql server?
[02:36] <Taylor_M> the ISO file I downloaded was kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386
[02:36] <Taylor_M> what do I do?
[02:36] <nonewmsgs> unfortunatly Taylor_M your problem requires someone greater than myself to assist you
[02:37] <Taylor_M> Is it just 8.10, is it in previous versions?
[02:38] <Taylor_M> because I'm thinking about downloading an earlier version.
[02:38] <sehven> Taylor_M: i have same version, no errors for me
[02:38] <sehven> mybe file is broke or somethin
[02:38] <sehven> not sure, im new to linux too
[02:39] <Taylor_M> If this helps I'm trying to run it on a COMPAQ Presario SR1503WM
[02:40] <Taylor_M> no specs have changed, except for the RAM and video card
[02:41] <Taylor_M> It works just fine on my brother's ThinkPad
[02:46] <bdizzle> grr
[02:46] <bdizzle> someone help me troubleshoot my speakers please?
[02:46] <bdizzle> I just got my laptop back from repair for a power plug, and now the sound doesn't work
[03:11] <yak> wtf is this
[03:22] <paulandsara> could someone help with 2 problems im either to dumb to figure out or....... i couldnt find the faq where the answer was
[03:35] <szrhawaii> does anyone know where the source files for the folder icons are ive checked the default and default kde folders and the folder icons are different then the standard ones used and i dont like these oxygen folders and want to change them
[03:36] <szrhawaii> ive checked root/usr/share/icons/default filesystems and its not the same as the folder icons im using on dolphin for some reason
[03:46] <usuario_> hola alguien ,me puede ayudar
[03:46] <usuario_> buenas noches
[03:47] <usuario_> hola buenas noches alguien me puede ayudar a instalar firefox en mi kubuntu
[03:49] <Suiseiseki> usauario: http://kubnewb.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-install-firefox-for-kubuntu.html
[03:50] <usuario_> cias
[03:50] <usuario_> gracias
[03:50] <usuario_> disculpen cual es el cana de español
[03:50] <Suiseiseki> de nada
[03:50] <solid_liq> usuario_: do you realize this is an English speaking channel?  No hablo espanol
[03:50] <usuario_> o es global?
[03:58] <OrbJinzo> heh
[03:58] <OrbJinzo> !spanish
[03:59] <Suiseiseki> to late for that
[03:59] <OrbJinzo> bah
[03:59] <Suiseiseki> I already told the user the channel via PM
[03:59] <OrbJinzo> thats good.
[03:59] <OrbJinzo> meh im looking around for a cheap intel based mac.
[04:00] <Suiseiseki> plus that would need to be !español
[04:00] <OrbJinzo> heh
[04:01] <OrbJinzo> spanish and portguese look the same to me
[04:01] <Suiseiseki> They are quite simmilar
[04:02] <OrbJinzo> the extant of my spanish is the menu at taco bell
[04:02] <OrbJinzo> sad really
[04:07] <derek_k> could someone tell me if kubuntu 8.10 has effects enabled by default in kde 4?
[04:10] <maxmahem> Question: I'm trying to set-up my windows partitions to mount on boot, so editing fstab and all that. Any reason I shouldn't make a mount point in the media directory for them? Is that the traditional location for them?
[04:12] <shadow98> hey guys i just got kubuntu installed and having issue with sound..it sound system configuration is sees the correct card
[04:13] <shadow98> sound blaster audigy
[04:13] <shadow98> sb0090
[04:13] <shadow98> but i don't hear anything..but if i boot back into windows everything is fnie..
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> !sound | shadow98
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: it works in windows as yuo have installed drivers, you need to find out what drivers the card needs in linux
[04:17] <shadow98> ActionParsnip: i don't see option for enable the sound system..
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: if you have an onboard card as well as the soundcard, disable the onboard in bios to lessen confusion
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: then you need to install drivers, creative cards suck at best
[04:18] <shadow98> what are the best cards
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> if you check the hcl, you may find how to configure it
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> there is no best
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | shadow98
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: creative seem to be struggling to support windows
[04:18] <shadow98> i mean it finds the right card and everything..
[04:19] <Dolo> does any one here know of a linux os that is better than ubuntu?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=980&start=0
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: your system can find any hardware you throw at it, doesnt mean you have the drivers
[04:20] <shadow98> so who has best support for linux as far as sound
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> shadow98: check the hcl link, it will show you what works / doesnt work
[04:21] <Dolo> I got ubuntu all set up after a few months of tweaking it but my new slave drive is a sata and apparently u cant make a sata a slave drive so i think im screwed and must reinstall ubuntu to the new hd and then use this one as the slave drive
[04:22] <Dolo> is there any easy way to do that other than juggling 80 gigs worth of data
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Dolo: you can have any sort of drive as a slave
[04:23] <Dolo> current drive is ide so bios keeps booting the sata drive first
[04:23] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Cattler Drive ?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Cattle
[04:24] <Dolo> ranch
[04:24] <Dolo> dressing
[04:24] <Dolo> up
[04:24] <Dolo> ...
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Dolo: can't you swap that in the BIOS ?
[04:25] <Dolo> i tried but the fringing thing wont let me swap the order of drives
[04:26] <Dolo> keeps the 2 sata slots as primary
[04:26] <Dolo> didnt matter before i only had ide
[04:26] <Dolo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_drives_in_the_United_States
[04:27] <Dolo> yeeha mofo
[04:28] <Dolo> any suggestions on how to set this up?
[04:29] <Dolo> when i used to use fedora i had it installed on slave drive and windows on primary first
[04:29] <Dolo> so when i installed the fc i had option to dual boot
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Dolo: thats the easiest way to do it as grub will be configured for you
[04:30] <Dolo> was wondering if theres some easy way to set up a dual boot off the new 120 so i can get back to ubuntu and not have to move the data
[04:30] <shadow98> im going to try and upgrade the kernel...see if that helps
[04:30] <Dolo> but not sure if i need to install then entire fc or ubuntu os
[04:30] <Dolo> or if theres an easyer work around
[04:31] <Dolo> so i can keep as much of the new drive free so i can use it as storage
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Dolo: http://www.linux.com/feature/152592
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Dolo: personally, i'd clean install. feels like getting out of the shower
[04:34] <Dolo> it just took me sooo long to finally get ubuntu working right
[04:34] <Dolo> all st up the way i like
[04:34] <Dolo> fixed that godamn youtube sound thing
[04:34] <Dolo> recycle bin that wouldnt mepty
[04:35] <Dolo> buncha stuff for wine
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Dolo: you can use dd to copy the data over between the partitions
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Dolo: you will need to reinstall grub
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Dolo: What's up?
[04:37] <Dolo> ya it'll be better off
[04:39] <Dolo> ima do what action parsnip said to a clean install on the new drive then drag my info over to the new drive
[04:39] <Dolo> then i'll delete the other drive and leave it as the storage
[04:40] <Dolo> well thanks for the adivce gonna get started
[04:40] <Dolo> intrepid is the newest ubuntu?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Hi Mez
[04:53] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi.
[04:53] <DaSkreech> !hi
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:01] <szrhawaii> WHats up ActionParsnip
[05:02] <szrhawaii> Can you help me with a problem im having install this plasmoid
[05:05] <szrhawaii> Im trying to install a plasmoid and it says that the cmakelist.txt isnt there but it is
[05:07] <gtlee> hello
[05:07] <szrhawaii> It says my CXX compiler cant be found but its there i saw it myself
[05:07] <szrhawaii> hello
[05:08] <wizardslovak> hello people
[05:08] <wizardslovak> i got a question
[05:08] <gtlee> m8 i ask how does your kubuntu desktop look?
[05:08] <szrhawaii> hello
[05:08] <wizardslovak> my kubuntu system is pretty slow, i got p4ht and 1024ram
[05:08] <wizardslovak> my xp runs faster
[05:09] <szrhawaii> do you got 4.1 wizardslovak
[05:09] <wizardslovak> yes
[05:09] <szrhawaii> turn of your desktop effects
[05:09] <szrhawaii> that might help speed it up
[05:09] <wizardslovak> lol 3d cube?
[05:09] <szrhawaii> that caused mine to slow down
[05:09] <szrhawaii> no
[05:09] <gtlee> i installed the kubuntu-desktop in my ubuntu gnome,but i saw it just like i did nothing be4
[05:09] <szrhawaii> the system settings>desktop>disable desktop effects
[05:09] <gtlee> just add some kde app
[05:10] <szrhawaii> you running compiz also wizardslovak
[05:10] <wizardslovak> yes i do
[05:11] <szrhawaii> then you got to turn off the kwin desktop settings
[05:11] <wizardslovak> but then i wont be able to use 3d cube,would i?
[05:11] <szrhawaii> wizardslovak kmenu>system>system settings>desktop effects>disable effects
[05:11] <szrhawaii> wizardslovac yes you will cause im running it as well
[05:12] <wizardslovak> i did disable effects
[05:12] <szrhawaii> just have to make compiz your primary desktop effects
[05:12] <wizardslovak> well right now i ddont need cube anyways
[05:12] <szrhawaii> also you need to change another setting to compiz
[05:12] <wizardslovak> which?
[05:13] <szrhawaii> are you using emerald for your window manager
[05:13] <wizardslovak> well i am kinda noob in kubuntu so i have no ide whats emerald
[05:13] <szrhawaii> wizardslovac its an install part of compiz
[05:13] <szrhawaii> if you downloaded it
[05:14] <wizardslovak> well i did install compiz yesterday
[05:14] <szrhawaii> if not then you dont have to worry about that other setting
[05:14] <wizardslovak> how can i find it out?
[05:14] <szrhawaii> but that desktop effect is for the kwin desktop effects not the compiz effects because they are two different programs
[05:14] <szrhawaii> is your window the stock kde one
[05:14] <wizardslovak> yes
[05:15] <szrhawaii> then you have kwin
[05:15] <wizardslovak> i didnt change nothing in windows
[05:15] <szrhawaii> your fine
[05:15] <wizardslovak> yes i have kwin
[05:15] <szrhawaii> yeah
[05:15] <szrhawaii> just turn off the desktop effects that i told you and your compiz will take care of those desktop effects for you
[05:15] <szrhawaii> then just reboot and you will see the difference
[05:15] <wizardslovak> ok i did it already
[05:16] <DaSkreech> gtlee: logout and press alt+T then choose KDE
[05:16] <wizardslovak> ok ill reboot ill be back
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> no need to reboot, just restart x
[05:17] <szrhawaii> yeah that too
[05:17] <szrhawaii> if he knew how
[05:18] <szrhawaii> ActionParsnip how do you do restart x again
[05:20] <szrhawaii> Actionparsnip or DaSkreech my terminal is telling me that CXX compiler was not found but its in there do you have an idea how to remedy the problem
[05:21] <wizardslovak> well still same think
[05:23] <odog7777> how can Improve dvd playback in ubuntu 8.10 with a intel gma 4500 MHD?
[05:24] <szrhawaii> it will speed up just give it a little
[05:24] <szrhawaii> unless you got some other thing running at the same time
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:24] <szrhawaii> thanks
[05:24] <odog7777> no i meen the dvd playback is grainy and choppy all the time
[05:24] <wizardslovak> well in xp i can watch player and browe web and use chat
[05:25] <odog7777> ubuntu doesn't provide a very good driver for this chip i'm afraid
[05:25] <wizardslovak> in kubuntu i do same and player is getting stuck
[05:25] <powertool08> !dvd | odog7777
[05:25] <resno> hello all. i am trying to install cabextract. i dont see it in the resposortories. what is the command to install it?
[05:25] <powertool08> odog7777: I'd double check that you have all the right stuff in those guides, maybe you're missing part of it but have enough to play video, just not well
[05:25] <resno> get-apt install cabextract?
[05:26] <powertool08> resno: apt-get search cabextract, if its there that will list it
[05:26] <powertool08> resno: then apt-get install cabextract or whatever package name the search returns, also sudo in front of both commands
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> resno: try typing cab and press tab to tab complete the package name
[05:27] <resno> ActionParsnip: when i type apt-get search cab and tab... nothing shows
[05:27] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: logout then press alt+e to restart X
[05:28] <powertool08> resno: with search it won't autocomplete, with install it will if it exists
[05:28] <DaSkreech> wizardslovak: Which player?
[05:28] <wizardslovak> kaffeine
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> resno: press tab a few times
[05:28] <DaSkreech> !info cabextract
[05:28] <matias> alguien de buenos aires?
[05:28] <resno> ok, i found it but it says:
[05:28] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:28] <resno> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> resno: sudo apt-get install cab
[05:28] <resno> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> resno: do you have synaptic open?
[05:29] <powertool08> resno: sorry, I use aptitude (similar package mananger) it has the search, I don't think apt-get search is a valid command
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: its apt-cache search
[05:29] <DaSkreech> apt-cache search
[05:29] <powertool08> resno: do you have synaptic open?
[05:29] <resno> ok. actionparnisp: yes i had it open
[05:29] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: ah, thanks
[05:29] <DaSkreech> wizardslovak: How are you?
[05:29] <resno> its downloading now... my apologiez
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> resno: sweet
[05:30] <wizardslovak> DaSkreech: hej i am good , yoursef?
[05:30] <wizardslovak> yourself
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Not too bad
[05:30] <resno> ActionParsnip: getting use to downlinad with terminal is hard for me. since i am  windows guy.
[05:30] <wizardslovak> i love 3dcube but thats prob whats slowing my system
[05:31] <wizardslovak> is there something like "task manager" in kubuntu?
[05:31] <powertool08> resno: You'll adjust quickly, I used to be a windows guy and now I won't even open synaptic, only use aptitude
[05:31] <wizardslovak> maybe if i turn off something i dont use
[05:31] <powertool08> wizardslovak: top
[05:32] <wizardslovak> resno i love linux and i didnt have big problem to switch
[05:32] <wizardslovak> what "top"??
[05:32] <resno> powertool08: i intended to never return to windows. i just need a few things to work, to make the transitino smoother.
[05:32] <powertool08> wizardslovak: in a terminal run the command "top" it lists all your processes
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> resno: once you learn it its a snap
[05:33] <resno> top runs the top processes. there is a diff command to show all processes.
[05:33] <powertool08> resno: I had the same opinion, although I found I'm using windows more since I started my new job, but at home I stick to linux
[05:34] <wizardslovak> whats xorg??
[05:34] <resno> powertool08: i use linux and windows at work, so it got me wanting to use linux at home... works uses vista!! :(
[05:34] <powertool08> !xorg | wizardslovak
[05:34] <wizardslovak> ooo ok
[05:35] <wizardslovak> well i see i gotta get myself new PC
[05:35] <powertool08> resno: Thats sad, at least my boss hates vista, we're all XP, I'm going to push for linux where I can
[05:35] <resno> powertool08: i always remembered linux not needing to restart for changes to happen, but ive noticed some updates need it. has there been a change?
[05:36] <wizardslovak> i use xp for games only
[05:36] <wizardslovak> otherwise linux
[05:36] <powertool08> wizardslovak: Note the the ? in the above factoid is either a k or a g depending on whether you're using kdm or gdm, kubuntu uses kdm
[05:37] <wizardslovak> i had suse but then i wanted to try kubuntu and since then i am using it
[05:37] <dilan> hi guys how can i add mp3 support for kubuntu?
[05:37] <wizardslovak> i just gotta relearn commands
[05:37] <wizardslovak> !restricted formats
[05:37] <powertool08> resno: I'm not sure how many actually need restarts, I thought that perhaps they were more of a suggestion? I know kernel updates require a restart...
[05:37] <wizardslovak> dilan: !restricted formats
[05:38] <dilan> yes
[05:38] <powertool08> !mp3 | dilan
[05:38] <wizardslovak> dilan:  apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:38] <DaSkreech> wizardslovak: press ctrl=esc
[05:38] <wizardslovak> ctrl+esc? for what?
[05:38] <powertool08> dilan: looks like the same link, disregard
[05:39] <DaSkreech> resno: you only need to restart for kernel updates
[05:39] <DaSkreech>  some other updates you don't need to restart but to make things simple ubuntu asks you to
[05:39] <wizardslovak> one think i like "apt-get"
[05:39] <wizardslovak> yast is good but apt-get much better
[05:40] <powertool08> resno: I think with some things you may need to restart the service or something and like DaSkreech said, restarting the entire system is more noob friendly.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> resno: You on'y need to restart for kernel changes
[05:41] <wizardslovak> well yesterday i did update my system and i had to restart system in order for updates to take effect
[05:41] <powertool08> wizardslovak: Do you remember which updates needed the restart?
[05:42] <wizardslovak> yea i believe one or more were kernel updates
[05:42] <resno> haha noob friendly... sounds like me
[05:43] <wizardslovak> lol resno not only one , ima noob too
[05:43] <powertool08> resno: We're all noobs, its just a matter of to what extent. Even guru's are in a constant state of learning
[05:44] <powertool08> I've been using linux since around mid '07 and I'd still call myself a noob
[05:44] <resno> powertool08: yea, i guess your right. this kinda off topic but is there an irc short to typing peoples names?
[05:44] <resno> shortcut*
[05:44] <powertool08> resno: type the first few letter and then tab
[05:44] <wizardslovak> well type first letter then "tab"
[05:45] <wizardslovak> resno: lol
[05:45] <resno> powertool08: wizardslovak: i never knew that would work LOL
[05:45] <dilan> i've installed mp3 support & the music plays but the sound doesn't appear. my sound card is HDA Intel (ALC662 Analog)
[05:45] <powertool08> resno: If you don't type enough then hit tab a few times and it cycles through all of them
[05:45] <resno> dilan: sound doesnt appear?
[05:45] <dilan> yes
[05:45] <powertool08> resno: I think he means he can't hear it
[05:46] <sidney> from Ubuntu i can see the folders in one windows computer but not the other. And from windows it asks for a password
[05:46] <wizardslovak> dilan: did you plug in speakers? lol
[05:46] <powertool08> dilan: Do you have onboard and an add in card?
[05:47] <wizardslovak> well did you install   linux on fat32 or ext3?
[05:47] <dilan> hell yeah i plugged the speakers & i have an onboard card i think
[05:47] <resno> dilan: is this a laptop or desktop?
[05:47] <powertool08> dilan: run "alsamixer" in a terminal and play around with each channel, maybe something is muted
[05:48] <dilan> a desktop
[05:48] <dilan> wat is alsa mixer?
[05:48] <resno> speakers plugged in? alsa is the volume controller.
[05:48] <powertool08> dilan: Its the audio mixer settings, you can adjust bass, treble, pc speaker volumes, etc
[05:48] <DaSkreech> !tab
[05:49] <dilan> where is it?
[05:49] <resno> dilan: type alsamixer in terminal
[05:49] <powertool08> dilan: You run it in a terminal/console/command prompt
[05:49] <sidney> cant you get to alsa mixer from the speaker?
[05:50] <powertool08> dilan: K menu -> System -> konsole if you don't know how to open the terminal
[05:50] <resno> sidney: sure, commands are always easiest for instruction purposes
[05:51] <powertool08> dilan: I'm using kde 3.5, if you're on kde 4 the menu might be alittle different. You can also try alt+f2 and type konsole there.
[05:52] <powertool08> dilan: Did you find it?
[05:52] <dilan> ok got it. there r some vertical bars...& 2 of them r full
[05:53] <powertool08> dilan: Ok, check each one, don't move them up until red, just somewhere in the green and see if you can hear the music
[05:53] <dilan> how can i move them up?
[05:54] <powertool08> dilan: with the arrow keys on the keyboard.
[05:55] <dilan> okay i can hear the sound but but it dropps
[05:55] <sidney> resno: when i open the mixer in a terminal it  only has one bar
[05:56] <wizardslovak> !samba
[05:56] <powertool08> dilan: You may also find a box with MM in it. That means its muted, pressing m will mute/unmute
[05:56] <resno> sidney: you need to switch to advanced.
[05:56] <resno> check the options on the toolbar
[05:57] <powertool08> dilan: What do you mean it drops?
[05:57] <dilan> sound stucks
[05:58] <sidney> resno:  is that done from terminal also?
[05:58] <resno> sidney: no the acually mixer
[05:58] <dilan> okay..................guys got it. it works fine now. thanks a million
[05:58] <powertool08> dilan: So it plays for a bit and then stops, then picks up again in the same spot?
[05:59] <wizardslovak> can i use my kubuntu system as server to share files btw 2 xp desktops with router?
[05:59] <powertool08> dilan: Ok you need to save the settings or it may revert back to the way it was after a reboot
[05:59] <resno> wizardslovak: yes, you need to set up samba shares
[05:59] <wizardslovak> samba is for that isnt it? will i be able to see files in XPs true my kubuntu?
[06:00] <resno> wizardslovak: samaba will make it look like another windows share
[06:00] <powertool08> dilan: Exit with Esc, then type "sudo alsactl store 0
[06:00] <resno> !samba
[06:00] <wizardslovak> is there something else? or samba is only one? i tried samba couple times but no luck
[06:03] <resno> powertool08: i am trying to install this program: Songbird_1.0.0-860_linux-i686.tar.gz how do i unzip(gunzip) and install it?
[06:03] <wizardslovak> resno did u use apt-get first?
[06:03] <resno> yes i have the app on my achine wizardslovak
[06:04] <wizardslovak> !cifs
[06:05] <powertool08> resno: It's not in the repo's I take it? Installing from source is the least preferred option as it doesn't do dependency handling like the package managers
[06:06] <wizardslovak> ok people i am oout for today
[06:06] <wizardslovak> good night
[06:06] <resno> powertool08: problem is its not in the repos.
[06:06] <resno> wizardslovak: night.
[06:06] <wizardslovak> one more think
[06:06] <wizardslovak> how to install from fource?
[06:06] <dilan> got another problem....i accidenty removed the task bar how can i get it back?
[06:06] <resno> powertool08: its songbird. from the people that mozilla, their sound player
[06:07] <powertool08> resno: But if that is the only option, tar xjfv? check tar -h I forget what each switch does, you will need one or more of those but not all. Anyway, tar -xjfv Songbird_...i686.tar.gz and it will extract to a folder in whatever directory you are currently in, there's an option to extract elsewhere, again, check tar -h.
[06:08] <wizardslovak> i forgot everything about linux
[06:08] <wizardslovak> i ment source
[06:08] <wizardslovak> !source
[06:08] <powertool08> dilan: alt+f2 type kicker and ok/enter
[06:09] <dilan> it didn't work
[06:09] <powertool08> resno: then cd into the directory you just created by extracting, it may have an install script, if so then "./install_script_name" or "sh install_script_name"
[06:09] <powertool08> dilan: are you using kde 3.5 or kde 4?
[06:09] <wizardslovak> ok ill plray tomorrow with source packages
[06:10] <wizardslovak> nite
[06:10] <powertool08> resno: Also the script may not be set to executable, if not "chmod +x install_script_name"
[06:10] <resno> powertool08: ok, its more complex then i want to deal with at this late hour.
[06:11] <resno> i am quite tired and have work in the am.
[06:11] <powertool08> resno: If there isn't an install script then use "./configure" when that finishes then "make" then when that finishes "sudo make install"
[06:11] <powertool08> resno: I like to chain them all together with && between each command, that way if configure or make fails then it won't waste time trying to install when it won't work anyway
[06:12] <resno> powertool08: haha ok.
[06:12] <powertool08> resno: Ok, its not quite as hard as it sounds, unless it doesn't configure or make properly, then its a true PITA
[06:14] <resno> i just searched and found a script to install it powertool08
[06:15] <powertool08> resno: Awesome, scripts are easy, just check that its executable, you can do that with ls -l and you get something like rwrwx or some variation, if it has the x then you're good to go, if not use the chmod +x command.
[06:16] <dilan> someone please tell me how to get my taskbar back
[06:16] <powertool08> dilan: Which version of kde are you running?
[06:18] <powertool08> dilan: run "kde-config --version" in a terminal if you don't know
[06:18] <resno> powertool08: haha it didnt work. well anyway, its 1am.. ive got work in a few hours. night all thanks powertool
[06:18] <powertool08> resno: no problem, good luck with it later
[06:18] <dilan> its 3.5.10
[06:19] <powertool08> dilan: Ok, run "ps aux | grep kicker" and paste the output here
[06:19] <sidney> I rebooted now i'm back to no shares
[06:20] <dilan> in a terminal?
[06:20] <powertool08> dilan: Yes.
[06:20] <dilan> 8034  0.0  0.0   3236   812 pts/2    S+   11:50   0:00 grep kicker
[06:20] <powertool08> dilan: Ok, now run "kicker" from the terminal
[06:22] <powertool08> dilan: Did the taskbar come back or did it throw out an error?
[06:22] <dilan> it says command not found
[06:23] <Alan_Lockwood> Is it possible to make Konqueror use default fonts when browsing?
[06:23] <dilan> it didn't appear
[06:23] <powertool08> dilan: Thats odd...
[06:24] <dilan> yes
[06:24] <powertool08> dilan: When did it disappear? Did you do any updates or a restart before hand or did it crash in the middle of your session?
[06:24] <dilan> i accidently removed it
[06:25] <powertool08> dilan: How did you accidentaly remove it?
[06:25] <dilan> i've right clicked it & removed it
[06:26] <powertool08> dilan: Ok, run "sudo aptitude reinstall kicker"
[06:28] <powertool08> dilan: Let me know when that finishes running.
[06:28] <dilan> i can't type my password
[06:29] <sidney> can someone tell me if this is a proper command   sudo  /etc/fstab
[06:29] <powertool08> sidney: No its not.
[06:30] <powertool08> sidney: If you want to edit fstab the use sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:30] <powertool08> dilan: Is it rejecting the password or just not letting you type it?
[06:30] <sidney> powertool08: thanks
[06:30] <dilan> doesn't let me to type it
[06:31] <powertool08> dilan: It doesn't show the characters or stars as you type. When it prompts for the password type it as usual, you won't see anything change though, then press enter.
[06:35] <rhys> night guys
[06:35] <rhys> im off for the night
[06:36] <powertool08> Haha, but you just joined.
[06:36] <rhys> :( i am just saying night
[06:36] <rhys> :P
[06:36] <powertool08> Ok, goodnight :)
[06:36] <rhys> i have to get up in like 2 hours lolol
[06:37] <rhys> goodnight powertool
[06:37] <powertool08> That sucks, I have 6.
[06:37] <rhys> heheh
[06:37] <rhys> ill be back tommorrow cya soon
[06:37] <powertool08> Ok, bye
[06:43] <sidney> from where do i get the server name
[06:44] <powertool08> What server name?
[06:45] <sidney> powertool08: i need to add this line //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[06:46] <powertool08> sidney: You were using samba right? //servername is the name of the computer you're trying to connect to, so whatever your XP/Vista machine is named, sharename would be the folder you're sharing on the Windows machine
[06:48] <sidney> powertool08: thaaanks again
[06:48] <powertool08> sidney: np
[06:54] <sidney> powertool08: I think i need to purchase a good book any suggestions
[06:54] <powertool08> sidney: Just a book in general or a book to learn something specific?
[06:55] <xp-killer> help!i download a torent and azureus open it and azureus went in a language i dont understand look like japanees i tink
[06:55] <powertool08> lol
[06:56] <powertool08> Have any japanese reading friends?
[06:56] <xp-killer> lol dont need that
[06:56] <xp-killer> i just need someone who has azureus install
[06:56] <xp-killer> to tell me where to go  to change the language
[06:57] <xp-killer> u tool
[06:57] <powertool08> xp-killer: I think the quickest solution might be to reinstall with "sudo aptitude reinstall azureus" in a terminal
[06:57] <powertool08> I don't use azureus so I don't know the menu layout
[06:58] <sidney> powertool08: i i'm not real sure where to start these websites are real general. They seem to be for people that already have a knowledge of linux commands and terms
[06:58] <xp-killer> powertool08: then install it i can bear to lose my 3 gig download already past half way
[06:58] <powertool08> sidney: What part do you not understand?
[06:59] <powertool08> xp-killer: I'd do a google search, find out where it stores download pieces, move the file, reinstall, then move it back. Although I don't think it would overwrite that folder, just the program files
[07:00] <xp-killer> no chances
[07:00] <xp-killer> i rather ask google where to change the language
[07:00] <powertool08> xp-killer: ok
[07:00] <sidney> powertool08: is not the mountname the same as the share name? I read for an hour then it ask for something i never expected
[07:01] <powertool08> sidney: No, the sharename is the folder you are sharing on your windows machine, the mountname is where you are mounting it locally
[07:02] <sidney> i suppose it's looking for a paththe linux computer is the mount
[07:03] <powertool08> sidney: Yes, the mountname can be anywhere on your local linux machine, you choose where you want it to show up, as long as the folder exists you shouldn't have any problems
[07:07] <eigentard> test
[07:07] <powertool08> !test | eigentard
[07:07] <powertool08> :P
[07:15] <resno> hello all again. i just cant put down the computer, i was intending to go all linux, but wine doesnt fully support my program.  is it possible to dual boot with xp and keep this current install?
[07:17] <powertool08> resno: Yes, look at GParted, if the linux partition takes 100% of the disk you have to have some free space on the partition, shrink it, then create a new partition and install windows, then windows will overwrite grub so you have to reinstall grub and add windows to the boot list
[07:18] <resno> powertool08: ok, thats what my question was focused on. i know windows can be a hog and wont play friendly.
[07:19] <powertool08> resno: Windows prefers to be installed first and as the first partition on the disk, you can install it second and on other partitions, it just adds steps to the process
[07:19] <resno> powertool08: yea, i wasnt intending to do it this way, but linux kinda took over the drive.
[07:19] <powertool08> resno: lol, Linux knows what's best for you
[07:20] <resno> but linux kinda ran over my windows install
[07:20] <resno> powertool08: yea... i guess so
[07:20] <powertool08> resno: Really? How did you install? wubi?
[07:20] <resno> nah.. off a live cd.
[07:21] <resno> powertool08: i messed up somewhere, i got an error msg and thought by going back it would fix it... nope
[07:21] <powertool08> resno: Odd, I've never had that happen to me, although I don't normally do the 3 click do it all for me setup, I like to do a manual install and change partitions and mountpoints
[07:22] <resno> powertool08: oh, it worked fine on my work computer, of course the one where iwanted to keep stuff it all blows up
[07:22] <powertool08> resno: hmm, sorry.
[07:22] <resno> powertool08: how do i go about installing grub?
[07:22] <powertool08> !grub
[07:22] <resno> heh... simple enough
[07:23] <resno> ok, thanks again powertool08 i am realling heading to bed now
[07:23] <powertool08> resno: factoids are awesome when you know the right keyword. I've picked up a few over the months of being in channels
[07:23] <powertool08> resno: Ok, goodnight
[07:31] <joshua__> does anyone know anything about wallpaper tray?
[07:32] <powertool08> What is wallpaper tray?
[07:34] <joshua__> changes wallpaper automatically
[07:35] <powertool08> joshua__: What's the problem with it?
[07:35] <MisterFlibble> !lilo
[07:36] <MisterFlibble> I'd recommend LILO because it's not retarded and can boot a XFS partition
[07:36] <powertool08> lol
[07:36] <powertool08> Most people don't use XFS though
[07:36] <MisterFlibble> I don't believe GRUB will ever be fixed, it boots Ext3 and Ext4 and thats really all they care about
[07:37] <zbyszek> hi folk
[07:37] <joshua__> i downloaded the latest versiion
[07:37] <joshua__> and i tried to compile it
[07:37] <zbyszek> and...
[07:37] <joshua__> and its not working
[07:37] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: could you not make the boot partition ext and everything else XFS?
[07:38] <joshua__> i ran the command ./configure
[07:38] <zbyszek> as usual
[07:38] <MisterFlibble> I gave up on GRUB after trying to use it once, it sees /boot on an XFS partition and all you get is "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB......." scrolling down the screen
[07:38] <joshua__> and make install
[07:38] <joshua__> and nothing
[07:38] <MisterFlibble> powertool08: Yes, you can, and then you can mount / as XFS
[07:38] <powertool08> joshua__: Its in the repos, just sudo apt-get wallpaper-tray and there's no need to compile
[07:39] <MisterFlibble> but Ubuntu doesn't like to remove old kernels automatically, so that's why I usually tell people to use Ext3, cause Ubuntu will happily stockpile old Linux boot images til the partition fills up
[07:39] <MisterFlibble> and then it gets a little cranky
[07:40] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: true, I've got about 4 in mine right now, everytime I reboot I remember I should clean it up, then I don't do it immediately and forget
[07:40] <MisterFlibble> I found that out at one point when Was using Edgy Eft and wondered where all my disk space was
[07:40] <joshua__> that only gives me an older version
[07:40] <joshua__> 4.4 or something
[07:40] <MisterFlibble> turns out I had kernels from Dapper and Breezy too
[07:40] <MisterFlibble> and every time I got a patch that installed a new kernel :P
[07:41] <MisterFlibble> Ubuntu *really* needs to do what Fedora does, and rig it to only keep the active kernel and your last two before that
[07:41] <powertool08> joshua__: Is there a feature you're wanting in the newest one that the repo version doesn't have? If the repo version does the job you need it for, I'd go that way because it will find updates eventually, when installing from source its up to you to remember to update it
[07:42] <MisterFlibble> that way. the system cleans itself up and the user never needs to be any the wiser
[07:42] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: I'd like that
[07:42] <chris_> hello. after having used intrepid for a while, i have switched back to hardy on my dell xps m1530. i wanna go back to intrepid (nvidia has released new drivers, finally), but i used to sometimes get a blank display after start-up, sometimes it would beep (through the soundcard, not speakers!) terribly, then start or not (remain blank). sometimes it would also go blank, but the x server would work, while the consoles do not (i'm pretty sure
[07:42] <chris_> they work, they are just not visible). has anybody ever experienced such a thing?
[07:43] <MisterFlibble> powertool08: I set a CRON job to make a defragmentation pass on my main volume every day B-)
[07:43] <MisterFlibble> CRON is really pretty nifty
[07:43] <joshua__> how do i update?
[07:44] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: awesome, but I thought you don't really need to defrag with journaling fs
[07:44] <powertool08> joshua__: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[07:44] <MisterFlibble> powertool08: Thats a myth, nobody ever bothered to write a defrag tool for Ext3, doesn't mean it doesn't fragment
[07:44] <powertool08> joshua__: or you can go through the K menu and find adept updater if you prefer
[07:45] <MisterFlibble> it fragments more slowly than something like NTFS, but it still gets slower after months or years
[07:45] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: ahh
[07:45] <MisterFlibble> powertool08: You can mount an Ext3 volume as Ext2 and run e2defrag, but it destroys the Ext3 journal
[07:45] <MisterFlibble> They're making an e4defrag to take care of Ext4 volumes
[07:46] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: so what happens when you destroy the journal? Will it rebuild on next boot?
[07:46] <joshua__> im using gnome
[07:47] <powertool08> joshua__: Oh, the aptitude command will still work, I forget what gnome named the updater, you can ask in #ubuntu if you want the gui
[07:47] <insmod> anyone know if they solved the issue with ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam -- it uses the zc3xx
[07:47] <MisterFlibble> powertool08: You risk destroying all data on the volume
[07:47] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: Excellent!
[07:48] <MisterFlibble> so the de facto way to defrag Ext3 is to tar the partition and then make a new Ext3 file system (formatting)
[07:48] <MisterFlibble> then untar everything from the backup
[07:48] <MisterFlibble> lol
[07:49] <powertool08> MisterFlibble: haha, well I don't think my /home is ext3, can't rememeber.... and I upgraded with hardy so I'm not too worried about fragmentation yet
no need to defrag in linux
[07:49] <MisterFlibble> it's why I never use Ext3, it's disk management tools are a joke, Ext4 will fix that though
[07:49] <joshua__> when i tried to install wallpapoz it got size mismatch error... what is that?
[07:49] <MisterFlibble> Ext3 is painfully slow, and you can't defrag it
[07:50] <powertool08> joshua__: I have no idea, I suggest google and #ubuntu, its typically more active than here.
[07:50] <MisterFlibble> XFS is the best choice usually
[07:50] <chris_> MisterFlibble: try reiserfs then. or jfs, xfs, etc.
no need to defrag in linux
[07:50] <powertool08> LOL! reiserfs kills your wife though...
[07:51] <MisterFlibble> Hans Resier is in prison for murdering his wife, JFS has one guy working on it part time
[07:51] <MisterFlibble> insmod: Yeah tere is
[07:51] <MisterFlibble> *there
 ah no
[07:51] <chris_> MisterFlibble: see, some conversations have to go a predefined path
[07:51] <powertool08> chris_: http://valleywag.gawker.comhttp://valleywag.gawker.com/385449/murderer+developed-file-systems-introduce-new-features/385449/murderer+developed-file-systems-introduce-new-features
[07:51] <MisterFlibble> That must be why there's a defrag utility that ships with Ext4
[07:51] <MisterFlibble> and XFS
[07:51] <chris_> who cares?
[07:51] <insmod> MisterFlibble: I have been using it since 1996 and never had to
[07:52] <chris_> you want a filesystem or what?
[07:52] <insmod> MisterFlibble: that;s more for looks then anything
[07:52] <powertool08> chris_: well regardless of the wife killing, theres a decent chance it won't be maintained as well as before the wife killing.
[07:52] <MisterFlibble> chris_: I know there were some former Namesys employees maintaining Reiser4
[07:52] <chris_> reiserfs is pretty well maintained i think
[07:52] <insmod> MisterFlibble: dosen't do very much -- not noticeable
[07:53] <MisterFlibble> you can use Reiser4 in Ubuntu, but you must patch the kernel
[07:53] <chris_> reiser4 seems to be pretty stable, but patching the kernel can be a bitch
[07:53] <MisterFlibble> every time you get an update :P
[07:53] <chris_> that too
[07:54] <MisterFlibble> or you can ignore Ubuntu kernels and jsut make your own with Reiser4 included from the kernel.org sources
[07:54] <MisterFlibble> but no telling how that could go
[07:55] <chris_> ther is a how-to on the forums for compiling your own kernel. it's pretty good
[07:55] <MisterFlibble> Ubuntu doesn't even include most of the packages you need to build a kernel
[07:55] <MisterFlibble> so you'd have to download like 200+ megs of packages to get the tools you need
[07:55] <chris_> i'd doubt that
[07:56] <MisterFlibble> the G++ package was like 50 megs all by itself
[07:56] <chris_> ubuntu doesn't include almost anything to compile your own stuff by default. why should it?
[07:57] <powertool08> chris_: in case you need it? what if you don't have access to the internet to download from the repos but need to compile something?
[07:57] <MisterFlibble> chris_: Well, they have to stay on one 700 meg CD image, so that means they naturally have to triage things by what fits and what they need
[07:58] <chris_> powertool08: get the dvd then. i think it's in there
[07:58] <MisterFlibble> chris_: I did :)
[07:58] <MisterFlibble> LiveCDs bother me, they have all kinds of crap you don't want, and miss lots of stuff you do
[07:59] <MisterFlibble> but I believe they call that "sensible defaults", no two people want the same packages
[07:59] <MisterFlibble> so they take their best guess at what most people want
[07:59] <powertool08> Its against my argument of needing something in case you don't have internet, but I think that Ubuntu should have a net install (I haven't seen it if it does) like Arch, that way after the install you are 100% up to date and don't have to get all the updates since the cd was made.
[08:00] <MisterFlibble> the LiveCD is pretty useless if you have a system without the Internet
[08:00] <MisterFlibble> but you can go through packages.ubuntu.com on a system that does and store the packages on some kind of physical media
[08:13] <hatoyu> svn: Malformed network data how can i fix the error
[08:16] <chris_> you can also go and make an 'offline' update. if you have a portable device, that is
[08:19] <hatoyu> the source server and at two city
[08:19] <hatoyu> chris_: I can control the two computer and i wanto fix it and make it work correct
[08:27] <chris_> hatoyu: sorry, can you brief me again, pls? what doesn't work?
[08:29] <hatoyu> when svn co svn://xxx.xxx.xx.xx/ it's tell me the error svn: Malformed network data
[08:30] <hatoyu> but in intranet the svn server work correct for long time
[08:30] <hatoyu> now I goto another city use internet it's erro
[08:34] <Q-collective> hey all
[08:35] <Q-collective> I want to install koffice 2.0 beta 3 (I think the latest), but it isn't showing up in adept (I have unsupported updates checked)
[08:36] <aftertaf> look on kubuntu.org for the post with the repos....
[08:37] <Q-collective> sorry, what post?
[08:38] <hatoyu> chris_: I fix it the svn port must 3690
[08:40] <MisterFlibble> hmmm, kthesaurus understands dirty language too
[08:40] <MisterFlibble> lmao
[08:40] <MisterFlibble> lmfao
[08:41] <chris_> hatoyu: cool
[08:44] <Q-collective> could anyone help me?
[08:44] <zbyszek> i don't think so
[08:45] <zbyszek> help is not avaible
[08:45] <zbyszek> just as usual
[08:45] <zbyszek> life..
[08:45] <Q-collective> yeah, figures
[08:49] <aftertaf> lol
[08:49] <aftertaf> is there a page on kubuntu org news that men,tions koffice beta ?
[08:50] <Q-collective> aftertaf: you mean http://www.kubuntu.org/koffice-2-beta-3 ?
[08:50] <MisterFlibble> I had to force overwrite some files to get Koffice to install :P
[08:50] <aftertaf> not sure :)
[08:50] <aftertaf> http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=koffice+2.0+beta+3+kubuntu
[08:51] <aftertaf> i love that function... So silly :)
[08:52] <Q-collective> lol
[08:52] <aftertaf> you need the intrepid backports in your sources.list
[08:53] <MisterFlibble> what is Akonadi server?
[08:53] <Q-collective> aftertaf: how to do that?
[08:54] <aftertaf> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <aftertaf> better to sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup     first
[08:54] <aftertaf> you know vim?
[08:54] <aftertaf> if not replace by kate
[08:54] <Q-collective> I prefer nano, but ok
[08:56] <aftertaf> so, you have backports in there?
[08:57] <Q-collective> deb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:57] <Q-collective> that one I think?
[08:59] <Q-collective> ok
[08:59] <Q-collective> installing
[08:59] <Q-collective> thx
[08:59] <Q-collective> :)
[09:02] <aftertaf> without the -src
[09:02] <aftertaf> sorry, being pointless on facebook also.... :D
[09:02] <Q-collective> meh
[09:02] <Q-collective> it worked
[09:02] <Q-collective> :p
[09:03] <aftertaf> :D
[09:07] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded the packages "libssl0.9.8" and "openssl". Why does usn say "After a standard system upgrade you need to reboot your computer to effect the necessary changes"?
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> i would think they are giving extra  emphisis to reboot.. due to the security nature of the upgrades.. abnd programs that may still be usiong the old versions
[09:14] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:14] <silv3r_m00n> i want to change the idle time of my monitor
[09:15] <silv3r_m00n> where can i get the setting
[09:18] <MisterFlibble> Christian emoticons for Kopete in the repo???
[09:18] <MisterFlibble> I demand Flying Spaghetti Monster icons
[09:18] <MisterFlibble> :P
[09:28] <aftertaf> amen !
[09:35] <DanWard> hey guys, how would you rebrand kubuntu?
[09:35] <JohnAnderson> got a question
[09:35] <JohnAnderson> whats the differences between ubuntu and kubuntu besides the desktop enviroment
[09:35] <JohnFlux> DanWard: iirc, there are some scripts to rebrand debian
[09:36] <JohnFlux> JohnAnderson: none
[09:36] <JohnAnderson> okay cool
[09:36] <JohnFlux> JohnAnderson: well, except whether kdm/gdm is installed
[09:36] <JohnAnderson> ok
[09:36] <DanWard> what would i look for ?
[09:37] <JohnFlux> DanWard: google for 'rebranding debian' ?
[09:37] <DanWard> it comes upwith debain to rebrand firefoz
[09:37] <JohnFlux> heh
[09:37] <DanWard> firefox
[09:38] <DanWard> "Debian to rebrand FireFox"
[09:47] <MisterFlibble> Can anyone recommend a decent ATI Radeon under $80?
[09:47] <MisterFlibble> I'm looking to upgrade from an Nvidia Geforce 7650 GS
[09:48] <MisterFlibble> I don't want to replace it with another Geoforce though
[09:50] <MisterFlibble> I honestly know nothing about ATI's video cards, but after I saw that one of Nvidia's executives donated $10,000 to Yes On 8, I decided to never buy anything from them again
[10:16] <kriox> hi people what goes wrong?
[10:17] <kriox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102648/
[10:18] <kriox> synaptic or adept do not work
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> kriox: what if you run that coomand? have you ran the command it recommends?
[10:22] <kriox> ok
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kriox: the system is telling you how to fix it
[10:23] <kriox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102651/
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kriox: yu arent super user, you didnt use sudo
[10:24] <FIcaBlok38> hello
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kriox: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> hi FIcaBlok38
[10:25] <FIcaBlok38> is possible to set my ati radeon 9000
[10:25] <kriox> sorry i do
[10:25] <FIcaBlok38> to tv out
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> kriox: if you did, the command would work. you need to put sudo at the eginning of the command for it to work
[10:25] <FIcaBlok38> i want to watch movies on my tv
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> FIcaBlok38: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/22465
[10:28] <MisterFlibble> Is it usual for a video card to need a connection to the power supply?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> MisterFlibble: if its powerful enough to warrant it yes
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !ot | MisterFlibble
[10:30] <kriox> ActionParsnip: ok it seems it work again thanks man
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> kriox: told you you didnt have sudo
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> kriox: the system tells you how to fix it, just read the screen
[10:32] <kriox> ok
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> FIcaBlok38: http://lilserenity.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/installing-ubuntu.pdf
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> FIcaBlok38: page 24
[10:33] <FIcaBlok38> ActionParsnip: tnx
[10:36] <kriox> ActionParsnip: i try to install the java. jar 6 but it is not go well and interrupt the dowloading
[10:36] <chriss_> salut ?
[10:36] <chriss_> are you frensh ?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !java | kriox
[10:36] <chriss_> please i search frensh help
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[10:37] <chriss_> thx you
[10:37] <coubeatczech> hi, do you know how to change language in just one application? (konqueror)
[10:42] <stdin> coubeatczech: KDE_LANG=<language-code> someKDEapp
[10:43] <coubeatczech> thanks to standart input
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> stdin: nice :D
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sounds like KD Lang haha
[10:58] <Mamarok> does anybody know if I can install from a live CD on an external HD? Ubiquity doesn't see these HD, althought everything is mounted
[10:58] <Mamarok> my internal HD died this morning :(
[10:59] <Mamarok> or do I have to use an alternate CD?
[11:00] <orbital_fox> Mamarok: you could possibly manually mount it?
[11:01] <Rudd-O> for those who may be interested: http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/a-better-way-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-live-usb-drive
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !usb | Mamarok
[11:01] <Mamarok> orbital_fox: the HDs are already mounted
[11:02] <Mamarok> and I want to install *to* an external HD
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: yep, thats the guide you need
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: the cd also has the option of usb install
[11:03] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: thx, will have a look, but the text is misleading :)
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:04] <Mamarok> yep, but only seen on a second glance
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: read *all* text *all* the time
[11:16] <MisterFlibble> Mamarok: If you have the money, a Solid State Drive is much more pleasant
[11:16] <MisterFlibble> but who can afford those? :P
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> stdin: hey all, how can I suggest factoids for ubottu please?
[11:16] <Mamarok> MisterFlibble: I will buy a new laptop soon anyway, but I want to be able to work for now
[11:17] <stdin> !bot | ActionParsnip, see usage information
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ty buddy
[11:31] <Nasj> !emacs
[11:31] <Nasj> !code
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> no edlin ;)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[11:38] <scorpion3> hi kan mir wer bei einem problem mit kubuntu 8.10 bezüglich der auflösung helfen?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !de
[11:39] <Nasj> !kde4
[11:40] <Nasj> how do you go from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.x ?
[11:42] <Nasj> !kde3
[11:42] <Nasj> !upgrade
[11:44] <Nasj> How do I upgrade my KDE3.5 to KDE4 ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: you can compile kde3.5 for intrepid
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-KDE-4-1-On-Ubuntu-8-04-91034.shtml
[11:49] <Nasj> thanks
[11:49] <DS-Sleepin> hey guys
[11:51] <DarkSmoke> i heard its posible to compile kubuntu from source and with cflags optimaztions too , is this true ?
[11:57] <edgy> Hi, I want to try kde 4.2 beta, is it usable or is there any serious problems?
[11:58] <orbital_fox> the kubuntu beta is not bad
[11:58] <orbital_fox> im using it
[11:58] <orbital_fox> they have added stuff and rectified issues
[11:58] <edgy> orbital_fox: kmail is working properly?
[12:00] <edgy> orbital_fox: I should add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main to sources, right?
[12:01] <scorpion3> so, da bin ich wieder. kam die selbe fehlermeldung wie in der console
[12:02] <orbital_fox> edgy yeah
[12:02] <orbital_fox> edgy: by properly, what is you problem and ill tell you if its fixed
[12:03] <edgy> orbital_fox: nothing specific but I have important data in my mails and hope the upgrade won't spoil it
[12:03] <edgy> orbital_fox: I am now upgrading and would tell you if things are smooth ;)
[12:06] <edgy> orbital_fox: whild dist-upgrading I see lots of 4.1 versions is this normal? e.g  kdelibs5-data 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i thought it was pretty useless but lotsa people like it
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !neon | edgy
[12:09] <orbital_fox> edgy: i guess
[12:09] <orbital_fox> i didnt have any probs
[12:12] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I tried the neon packages but it didn't work for me. when I log there is two error messages of can't find widgets for folderview and plasma or something like that
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> edgy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-beta-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[12:17] <Guest99122> hai =D
[12:17] <Guest99122> lovely..
[12:17] <Guest99122> how can i upgrade from kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 alpha 2?
[12:17] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I did exactly follow that link and i got the error I told you but now i am trying to install from kubuntu-experimental and hope that would work
[12:21] <Nicekiwi9> help?
[12:35]  * Nicekiwi9 twiddles his thumbs for s bit
[12:36] <Nicekiwi9> how do i upgrade from kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 alpha 2?
[12:52] <stdin> Nicekiwi9: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:53] <six_strung_out> Hi guys
[12:53] <Nicekiwi9> i have.....
[12:53] <six_strung_out> I'm using kubuntu and I can't install drivers for my NVidia card.
[12:53] <Nicekiwi9> no one seems very talkitive ont hese channels =(
[12:59] <martina__> nn    parlo  inglese
[13:00] <Pici> !it
[13:01] <martina__> vvvg
[13:01] <martina__> io  non  lo  so l'inglese
[13:01] <martina__> è  pruttissimo
[13:01] <martina__> è  bruttissimo
[13:16] <eagles0513875> !info konstruct
[13:16] <eagles0513875> !konstruct
[13:18] <ingerashu> hi everyone
[13:18] <eagles0513875> !hi | ingerashu
[13:18] <eagles0513875> hi ingerashu
[13:18] <ingerashu> does anyone know how to install a webcam on ubuntu 8.10?
[13:18] <eagles0513875> !info webcam
[13:18] <ingerashu> i really need it
[13:19] <eagles0513875> ingerashu never tried to be honest with you
[13:19] <ingerashu> could you give me a link? :D
[13:19] <ingerashu> i installed camorama,cheese....
[13:19] <chriss_> #kubuntu_fr
[13:20] <ingerashu> i works with cheese
[13:20] <ingerashu> but if i run kopete
[13:20] <ingerashu> and try to give someone my web
[13:20] <ingerashu> is not working
[13:20] <mm__> اهلا
[13:20] <ingerashu> doing nothing
[13:20] <chriss_> i search channel frensh for kubuntu
[13:20] <eagles0513875> mm__ what language
[13:20] <mm__> ar
[13:20] <eagles0513875> !fr | chriss_
[13:20] <eagles0513875> !ar | mm__
[13:21] <ingerashu> eagles can you help me?
[13:21] <chriss_> merci
[13:21] <mm__> no one in #ubuntu-ar
[13:22] <ingerashu> !ro | ingerashu
[13:22] <eagles0513875> mm__ you can ask in here but in english
[13:24] <mm__>  <eagles0513875>I do not know the English language
[13:26] <eagles0513875> mm__ u have to be patient in that channel then
[13:33] <yao_ziyuan> my gnome handles small-sized chinese characters better,
[13:33] <yao_ziyuan> so i want to copy my gnome's fontconfig configuration for kde use.
[13:33] <yao_ziyuan> how?
[13:33] <eagles0513875> !version
 I want the Arabic channel
[13:50] <eagles0513875> !ar
[13:50] <Pici> !sa | mm__
[13:50] <eagles0513875> ty Pici
[13:50] <eagles0513875> Pici can i ask you a question unkubuntu related though in offtopic
[13:50] <Pici> eagles0513875: sure
[13:51] <flipflop> how do I get Network Manager to automatically activate a connection on startup?
[13:51] <eagles0513875> flipflop is it wifi or wired
[13:51] <flipflop> wifi
[13:52] <flipflop> it works just fine, except I have to click the damn thing every time I log in..
[13:52] <eagles0513875> i have been having issues with netowrk manager even picking up my network and this is a clean install
[13:52] <eagles0513875> and if ur in range it should do it automatically
[13:52] <flipflop> it doesn't do it automatically, and my wifi router is about 10 inches away
[13:53] <eagles0513875> funny thing i have it worse off then u do it doesnt even find my wifi
[13:54] <eagles0513875> normally it automatically saves the info just have ot choose the connection you want to connect 2
[13:54] <flipflop> * sigh *
[13:55] <DarkSmoke> sucky routers buy  a good brand!
[13:55] <DarkSmoke> like, linksys
[13:55] <flipflop> LMAO
[13:55] <flipflop> if you call linksys a good brand...
[13:55] <eagles0513875> i have a linksys
[13:55] <eagles0513875> hey dark i send u an im on msn bro
[13:55] <eagles0513875> i have 2 actually one in usa and one where i am right now her ein europe
[13:56] <DarkSmoke> eagles0513875: yeah my bad was compiling kvirc4.0 qt4
[13:56] <Nasj> hmm
[13:56] <mm__> Can I register a special name?
[13:56] <eagles0513875> !register | mm__
[13:56] <DarkSmoke> i never found one for sale in malta, but they are the most compatable with linux, since you can install linux in them :)
[13:56] <eagles0513875> DarkSmoke working on the amarok 2.0 svn so i can hack at it
[13:56] <eagles0513875> i know where u can get one if your interrested
[13:56] <Nasj> I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 but now when i open firefox, the font of the menu is really small.  How do i change that ?
[13:56] <DarkSmoke> eagles0513875: where?
[13:56] <flipflop> dark, you're full of crap.
[13:56] <DarkSmoke> flipflop: yep , and THC and Alcohol and much more
[13:57] <eagles0513875> DarkSmoke ill tell u on msn bro or in ubuntu-mt
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:58] <DarkSmoke> yo ActionParsnip
[13:58] <DarkSmoke> sup dawg ;p
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> nm man
[13:58] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip O_o
[13:58] <eagles0513875> im getting a weird issue with amarok svn O_o
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: wassup with it?
[13:59] <DarkSmoke> hm, what your doing eagles0513875 with amarok?
[13:59] <eagles0513875> DarkSmoke trying out the svn ot hack away at it lol dunno what im trying to do exactly tbh
[13:59] <eagles0513875> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull .. && make && make install do i need sudo in front
[13:59] <DarkSmoke> cmake
[13:59] <DarkSmoke> why not ccmake
[14:00] <DarkSmoke> its way nicer
[14:00] <eagles0513875> ask in amarok channel
[14:00] <scorpion3> hallo. habe noch nen kleines problem. habe gerade aus der leiste unten das feld gelöscht wo die programme angezeigt werden. wie kriege ich die wieder? :-/
[14:00] <eagles0513875> !de | scorpion3
[14:00] <scorpion3> sry
[14:00] <CosimO> ciau
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: only infront of make install
[14:01] <Nasj> I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 but now when i open firefox, the font of the menu is really small.  How do i change that ?
[14:01] <Nasj> hhm
[14:01] <Nasj> adept manager font is also very small
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: can you be more specific than menu please
[14:01] <chriss_> #ubuntu_fr
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: ahhhh, and in other apps too
[14:02] <chriss_> ubuntu frensh channel ?
[14:02] <Nasj> Well
[14:02] <Nasj> in firefox
[14:02] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip im still getting an error
[14:02] <Pici> !fr | chriss_
[14:02] <Nasj> everything except the pagfe im visiting is really small font
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: do them one at a time, see where its failing
[14:02] <Nasj> so tools and such
[14:03] <Nasj> is really small
[14:03] <Nasj> adept ditto
[14:03] <Nasj> verything every word in adept is tiny
[14:03] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip this is the error i get CMake Error: Unable to open check cache file for write. /home/jonathan/Desktop/amarok/build/CMakeFiles/cmake.check_cache
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22821.html
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: do you have write access to that file?
[14:06] <vlt> Hello. Any idea why Konqueror scrolls down to a <td id="foo"> but not to a <tr id="foo"> when calling an URL ending in #foo?
[14:07] <eagles0513875> user and group r both set to me
[14:07] <ionut_> hi all
[14:08] <ionut_> does anyone know how can i have a forum on my dekiwiki
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: if you boot to recovery root console and rename /home/<user name>/.kde then reboot and log in as you it may help
[14:08] <ionut_> does exists an extension
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: it will default all your kde settings
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Nasj: if you gain nothing you can alwys rename back
[14:09] <Nasj> wait
[14:09] <Nasj> i found a solution i think
[14:09] <Nasj> in thta thread
[14:10] <Nasj> hmm
[14:10] <Nasj> te firefox problem was DPI settings
[14:10] <Kovert> can some  on tell me where to find the screen with the 8 box's to assign activity from the mouse in kde?
[14:10] <Kovert> I know it is a poor discription
[14:11] <Kovert> it is too easy to show a split view on a NET BOOK
[14:11] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[14:11] <resnostyle> hello all. i going to be use gparted to reinstall windows, question is should i partion it so i can transfer files between linux and windows
[14:11] <MisterFlibble> hmmmm, Broadcom Wifi is pretty craptacular
[14:11] <resnostyle> partion it a certain way.
[14:12] <Kovert> resnostyle: you dont give enought info as to what you want to accomplish
[14:12] <eagles0513875> MisterFlibble i have no problems with mine cept its 3 yrs old
[14:12] <MisterFlibble> if I use Windows, I can get a signal three houses away, if I use Linux, I can barely get a signal from the bedroom to my living room
[14:12] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip this is the error i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/102747/
[14:13] <resnostyle> Kovert: i have a current linux install, and i am going to install windows. in order to transfer files between the two oses, do i have create an extra partition?
[14:13] <Kovert> resnostyle: there are many way to do this
[14:13] <eagles0513875> resnostyle no
[14:14] <eagles0513875> !ntfs3g | resnostyle
[14:14] <eagles0513875> resnostyle is that what you are after
[14:14] <resnostyle> eagles0513875: yes!
[14:14] <Kovert> eagles0513875: he want to install windows
[14:14] <eagles0513875> resnostyle do you have dule boot already
[14:15] <eagles0513875> duel*
[14:15] <Kovert> ithink best way is windoze on seperate drive
[14:15] <resnostyle> eagles0513875: no. i dont have a dual boot yet.
[14:15] <resnostyle> Kovert: this install is on a laptop.
[14:15] <Kovert> ah
[14:16] <eagles0513875> resnostyle install windows first but when u do make sure there is a 2nd partition and leave that empty then install linux
[14:16] <Kovert> resnostyle: hope you have a huge hard drive
[14:16] <resnostyle> Kovert: yea, i didnt intend to go back to windoze, but my program wont work right
[14:16] <resnostyle> Kovert: its a 80 gb
[14:16] <Kovert> resnostyle: you are going to be very tight
[14:17] <eagles0513875> resnostyle do 40 windows and 40 linux
[14:17] <eagles0513875> i have done it before that way on this laptop which is fully linux now and have had no issues
[14:17] <Kovert> resnostyle: what about wine?
[14:17] <eagles0513875> !wine | resnostyle
[14:17] <Kovert> for the program that wont work?
[14:18] <resnostyle> Kovert: haha wine. spent all night getting it to work, and it didnt really work out
[14:18] <eagles0513875> oh
[14:18] <Kovert> resnostyle: B eer?
[14:18] <resnostyle> Kovert: never heard of beer
[14:18] <Kovert> we havent either :-)
[14:18] <ionut_> hei
[14:19] <ionut_> how can i have on my linux a theme like that of mac os x ?
[14:19] <Kovert> whats the other windoze emu?
[14:19] <Kovert> ionut_: google that! tghere is a lot on it
[14:19] <ionut_> yes but i don't fine
[14:19] <ionut_> find
[14:20] <ionut_> can someone give me one
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Kovert: theres crossover office and cedega which are paid for software
[14:20] <ionut_> or a link
[14:20] <Kovert> So no one knows how to get to the window where the screen edge dialog is configed?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Kovert: wine is pretty decent
[14:20] <eagles0513875> ya i have used it for games no issues and even utorrent and ventrilo no issues
[14:21] <Kovert> \J #KDE
[14:21] <Kovert> yeah i know
[14:21] <eagles0513875> Kovert u talking to me
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: ktorrent is quite similar to utorrent
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[14:22] <Kovert> eagles0513875: nope but if yiou know how to get to the screen edge configuration dialog I am
[14:24] <eagles0513875> Kovert no i dont im fighting cmake for amarok and kvirc
[14:24] <eagles0513875> :(
[14:24] <Kovert> !cmake
[14:25] <eagles0513875> !info cmake
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !info cmake
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> touche
[14:25] <eagles0513875> lol ActionParsnip
[14:25] <eagles0513875> already have it installed
[14:25] <eagles0513875> this is the error i keep getting with it http://paste.ubuntu.com/102747/
[14:26] <Kovert> so we think a package ios missing
[14:26] <eagles0513875> O_o
[14:26] <eagles0513875> what package
[14:26] <Kovert> looking
[14:26] <eagles0513875> ok
[14:27] <eagles0513875> think i found what im missing
[14:27] <Kovert> is the findkde.. in the right plkace
[14:27] <Kovert> place
[14:28] <mefisto__> could someone tell me if ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config exists? I renamed it but kaffeine doesn't seem to recreate a new one
[14:29] <Kovert> mefisto__: need the entire path
[14:29] <eagles0513875> Kovert i found what i was missing it was some dev pkgs
[14:30] <mefisto__> Kovert: I gave the entire path: ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config
[14:30] <eagles0513875> Kovert i gtg for now
[14:30] <Kovert> eagles0513875: it all waays is good when  some one who has no idea looks with you
[14:30] <eagles0513875> ill be back in 2 hrs to deal with this
[14:31] <Kovert> tiklde is a folder name?
[14:31] <Kovert> tilde
[14:31] <Pici> ~ means your $HOME
[14:31] <mefisto__> if you do: ls ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config it will list the file if it exists
[14:32] <mefisto__> anyone else? does the file exist?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: let me check
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: andy@fileserver:~$ file ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> /home/andy/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config: ERROR: cannot open `/home/andy/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config' (No such file or directory)
[14:34] <mefisto__> ok thanks ActionParsnip. must be an old config file no longer needed
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Kovert: ~/ is your home directory, its a shorthand, try it
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: how big is it
[14:35] <mefisto__> 13.9 kb
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: i'd leave it, you arent gaining anything
[14:36] <mefisto__> well kaffeine was crashing whenever I tried to open kaffeine's xine settings. I tracked it down to that file. so I've renamed it and I'll keep it there, but kaffeine seems to be working normally without it
[14:39] <ksa-24> وزطع
[14:40] <ksa-24>  هع
[14:40] <ksa-24> هع
[14:41] <mefisto__> english ksa-24?
[14:41] <Pici> !sa | ksa-24
[14:43] <ksa-24> no one Saudi Arabia
[14:43] <Pici> ksa-24: this channel is english only
[14:47] <Zehava> I have a setup in my /var/www where index and portal are both in there at the same time.  How can I tell the server to start with portal.php instead of index.php so when peopel go to the site they get the portal first?
[14:50] <ionut_> does anyone knows how can i install new extensions on dekiwiki
[14:50] <ionut_> ?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Zehava: symlink it
[14:54] <Zehava> ActionParsnip I'm still fairly new to linux.  how would I do that?
[14:55] <Zehava> sudo ln -s /var/www/portal.php
[14:55] <Zehava> ?
[14:57] <ionut_> who knows a software with which i can make a subtitle for a mouvie
[15:01] <bartek_> ello
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Zehava: cd /var/www; sudo ln -s ./portal.php ./index.php
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Zehava: the files will appear identical but there is only 1 real file, the other is a link, if you edit te link in a text file the system will show you the text
[15:07] <Zehava> Thanks a ton ActionParsnip got it!
[15:11] <alessio_> buona sera
[15:15] <michal_> michał
[15:15] <Netziro> ciao
[15:26] <Zehava> having trouble with my website again.  it was directing people to the index.php and I wanted portal.php to start first.  So I added the symlink to make the portal.php look like index.php and now I can't access the forum at all
[15:26] <Zehava> when I click the link to go to index.php it still sends me back to portal.php
[15:31] <trappist> Zehava: how do you even still have an index.php if there's a symlink there?
[15:31] <Zehava> I have index.php and portal.php both real files inside the /var/www directory
[15:32] <Zehava> I need the server to default to portal.php first instead of index.php
[15:32] <trappist> what's the symlink?
[15:32] <Zehava> it is right now ln -s ./portal.php ./index.php
[15:32] <Zehava> so it defaults to portal now, but when I click the link to take me to index, it still goes back to portal
[15:32] <trappist> that would make index.php a symlink not a real file
[15:32] <Zehava> right so it wont' read the real file at all?
[15:33] <trappist> you can't have a symlink and a real file of the same name in the same place at the same time
[15:33] <trappist> not sure which you have, but based on how it's behaving it sounds like it's the symlink
[15:33] <Zehava> yes it is
[15:33] <Morydd> after upgrading to intrepid, digikam no longer launches when I connect my camera. Any ideas how to correct this?
[15:33] <trappist> so, first you need an index.php :)
[15:33] <Zehava> if I remove the ./index symlink completely it shows on the browser my files instead of showing the portal
[15:33] <Zehava> I have an index.php
[15:34] <Zehava> it's just in another sub directory
[15:34] <trappist> but it's a symlink
[15:34] <trappist> ah.
[15:34] <Zehava> I want the ./portal to show up first
[15:34] <trappist> then your link to index.php needs to point into that subdirectory
[15:34] <trappist> like <a href="/foo/index.php">
[15:35] <Zehava> right, but how do I get the server to show the protal.php still?
[15:35] <Zehava> cause right now, with no symlink to index.php it just shows the file directory
[15:35] <trappist> wait, symlink *to* index.php?
[15:36] <trappist> by default, the server should look for a file (or symlink) called index.php... *in the requested directory*
[15:37] <Zehava> I did this "sudo rm ./index.php
[15:37] <trappist> so you'll get index.php (which points to portal.php) in your root directory, if that's what you're talking about, and if you have an index.php in a subdir called foo, that's what you should get if you go to http://yoursite/foo/
[15:37] <Zehava> and now when I go to the url it shows me the file directory
[15:37] <Zehava> okay I'll work on that, thanks
[15:37] <trappist> well yeah.  that's what was taking you to portal.php.
[15:38] <Netziro> u could make a index.php with Header linked on portal.php
[15:38] <Netziro> 2 lines of code
[15:39] <trappist> Netziro: yeah but that would generate additional requests, eat up additional bandwidth, make the page take longer to load
[15:39] <tboxmy> how do i know whats the glibc2 version installed?
[15:40] <jussi01> tboxmy: apt-cache policy package
[15:40] <Zehava> I'm trying to find the real index.php right now
[15:40] <Netziro> Yes, of course. but an header will forward request to new page... so the additional requests will be only on the first time
[15:41] <Netziro> isn't an include :)
[15:41] <tboxmy> jussi01: I tried but got W: Unable to locate package glibc2
[15:42] <tboxmy> my apps need glibc 2.3.2 to run
[15:42] <Zehava> well crud, I don't know what the old index.php pointed to
[15:44] <Netziro> Zehava: show me the dir three of this site
[15:44] <Zehava> how?
[15:45] <Zehava> I cannot find the forum index.php page at all right now
[15:45] <Zehava> now that I removed the index.php symlink that was originally here
[15:46] <Netziro> are u sure old original index.php was a symlink or a real file?
[15:46] <Zehava> probably a real file that I removed
[15:47] <Zehava> not sure
[15:47] <Zehava> if it was a real file my rm statment would have removed it, so I'm putting it back now
[15:48] <Morydd> after upgrading to intrepid, digikam no longer launches when I connect my camera. Any ideas how to correct this?
[15:48] <Zehava> so, once I have both portal.php and index.php the real files in the directory, how can I tell the server to default to portal.php instead of index.php?
[15:50] <Netziro> index.php contains lines of code?
[15:50] <Pici> Zehava: Like I said in #ubuntu, this is really an Apache issue that the folks in #apache should be able to help you with quickly.
[15:50] <Zehava> yes, it is a real file, and right now, if I go to portal.php it still sends me to the index.php
[15:51] <Zehava> pici they at apache told me to alter a file I don't even have
[15:51] <Pici> Zehava: Which file?
[15:51] <Zehava> .htaccess
[15:51] <Netziro> u have to make it
[15:51] <Zehava> I don't have that file inside this directory
[15:51] <Pici> Zehava: You need to create that file.
[15:52] <blauzahl> http://bugs.kde.org/180147 <---is this something typical or is it a problem on their side? ie what useful thing can i tell this person
[15:52] <Pici> .htaccess files are optional
[15:52] <Zehava> and I tried that, and I created one and it told me I didn't have access to index.php when I tried to go to my site in browser
[15:52] <Zehava> okay I'll go try there some more, thanks for the help
[15:53] <Netziro> u have to write in Options -Indexes -MultiViews -FollowSymlinks
[15:54] <Netziro> and
[15:54] <Netziro>     AllowOverride None
[15:54] <Netziro>     Order allow,deny
[15:54] <Netziro>     Allow from all
[15:57] <Zehava> is it possible to remove a symlink without removing the file it's self if there is both?
[15:57] <Zehava> never mind
[15:57] <SlimeyPete> if it's a soft-link then just plain 'rm' will do it
[16:12] <max06> ah, i think, it's right here :)
[16:12] <max06> good evening
[16:13] <max06> Is it possible to tell Dolphin that it must use the mount-option "nounix" when mounting smb-shares?
[16:13] <max06> (Intrepid)
[16:14] <Dr_willis> i dident think dolphin mounted  the smb shares.. it sort of browsed them
[16:14] <Dr_willis> but i could be wrong.
[16:14] <max06> hm... dolphin shows me up all possible shares
[16:14] <max06> when i click them, it asks for username and password...
[16:14] <Dr_willis> its showing the shares... but access one and check the 'mount' command in a terminal
[16:15] <Dr_willis> accessing them is not always 'mounting' them.
[16:15] <max06> but i need to pass the parameter "nounix" to the mount-command
[16:15] <max06> I want to use a NAS
[16:16] <max06> when a share is password-protected, smbclient crashes with an segmentation fault
[16:16] <max06> i can use the share when i mount it with -o nounix
[16:34] <george_> salut a tous
[16:35] <veryhappy> hello
[16:36] <veryhappy> i have a question
[16:36] <veryhappy> i want to build a server from a pentium3
[16:36] <veryhappy> it sounds mad but its not so bad if the server is slow
[16:36] <veryhappy> i just have the question how can i make a minimal installation
[16:36] <Dr_willis> a Pent 3 can be a ok file server.   There are server install disks at the ubuntu download sites..
[16:37] <veryhappy> and should i use xdm as minimal gui?
[16:37] <Dr_willis> or use a normal insatll. and just dont start up X.  if you want to occasinally go into X to congireu stuff you still have the option
[16:37] <Dr_willis> xdm is a login manaager. its not the GUI itself. it uses X
[16:37] <veryhappy> ok
[16:37] <veryhappy> sorry...
[16:37] <veryhappy> by the way im a german but my english is good enough thank you
[16:38] <veryhappy> but i want to know
[16:38] <legodude> a p3 is more than fast enough
[16:38] <Dr_willis> Theres a dozen + ubuntu variants that have minimal guis,  Crunchbang is one that comes with fluxbox, fluxbuntu is another.
[16:38] <veryhappy> ok
[16:38] <veryhappy> i have just debian
[16:38] <Dr_willis> You could always install/use a lighter desktop later.
[16:38] <veryhappy> on the system
[16:38] <veryhappy> but i needed avm
[16:38] <veryhappy> stick for wlan
[16:38] <veryhappy> and that runs only over ubuntu
[16:39] <veryhappy> but ubuntu is a little bit slower on the pc as debian
[16:39] <veryhappy> is that bad?
[16:39] <legodude> a faster p3 should be able to easily saturate gigabit with pretty much any os
[16:39] <veryhappy> ok
[16:40] <veryhappy> thank you if i have new questions i will ask you again
[16:40] <veryhappy> thank you
[16:40] <legodude> if you are ram constrained, only launch X when you need it
[16:40] <veryhappy> perhaps i'll come back
[16:40] <veryhappy> yes i will do
[16:40] <veryhappy> su
[16:40] <veryhappy> X
[16:40] <veryhappy> right?
[16:40] <veryhappy> or i say just sudo x
[16:41] <veryhappy> ok see u later thx
[16:59] <mamat_> hi, any ideas why qcad (which seems to use qt) does not show my default printer (shows other which i dont use, all other apps i've tried show all printers, but i dont use qt much) how could i go about debuging that?
[17:01] <Dr_willis> ive not used qcad in years...
[17:01] <Dr_willis> You are running qcad under gnome?
[17:02] <omkar> hello guys
[17:02] <Dr_willis> Hello
[17:02] <mamat_> Dr_willis: yep
[17:02] <omkar> i want to install vmware version 1.0.6 in Kubuntu 8.10 how to do it
[17:02] <omkar> i have a tarball file
[17:03] <omkar> hello Dr_willis i am the one who had the Vmlinuz file probs remember
[17:03] <omkar> ?
[17:03] <omkar> couple of days ago
[17:04] <mamat_> untar the ball?
[17:06] <mamat_> Dr_willis: google says i'm not the only one apparently
[17:07] <omkar> but the probs is the kernel
[17:07] <omkar> 2.6.27
[17:07] <omkar> which is not supported by the vmware
[17:07] <omkar> it says
[17:07] <omkar> Execution aborted
[17:09] <omkar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102829/
[17:09] <wesley> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/not_really_into_pokemon.png
[17:09] <omkar> plz read it n tell me how can i run the VmWare 1.0.6 on the new kernel 2.6.27.8
[17:09] <mamat_> Dr_willis: fixed by linking /var/.../printcap to /etc/printcap
[17:10] <lovre> is there any physics computer simulation software for linux?? I would like to simulate some simple physics with rolling balls, and such simple stuff..
[17:10] <omkar> can anyone solve the question for me?
[17:10] <JontheEchidna> lovre: You might be interested in "step"
[17:11] <wesley> Does Ubuntu has vacation? There isnt been any respons on my bugs
[17:11] <JontheEchidna> I've not used step personally but it is a physics program
[17:12] <wesley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/314914
[17:13] <wesley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/314889
[17:13] <lovre> JontheEchidna: ill look into it, thank you
[17:13] <_Ju|ian> bonjour
[17:14] <wesley> that are the bugs that still need to be looked at
[17:16] <wesley> Yeah ive have been running osx and osx performaced flawless, but kwin not, it seems that there is a bug in xorg
[17:17] <JontheEchidna> wesley: ubuntu sees the right device
[17:17] <wesley> or Linux just uses the wrong drivers, because i hear most peopl using i810, but some intel gma´s are better then the other
[17:17] <JontheEchidna> 945GC is the shortened name, with 82945G/GZ being the long name
[17:18] <JontheEchidna> so your bug is about performance?
[17:18] <wesley> yes
[17:19] <wesley> if you look to the osx benchmark on the same machine, then you see cleary better performance, so i am wondering, can it be that there is a bug in xorg preventing that intel gma performance good
[17:20] <wesley> or is it kwin ?
[17:20] <JontheEchidna> dunno
[17:20] <JontheEchidna> is it slow with desktop effects off?
[17:21] <wesley> the same performance in glx gears, but, ofcourse no repainting when desktop effects is switched off
[17:22] <Dolo> my dvd drive now on linux doesnt seem to work
[17:22] <Dolo> it reads as cd rom / blu ray re drive
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> wesley: I'd change the title to something about the drivers being slow, and changing the package affected to xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:23] <wesley> what i see is that kwin needs to repaint the windows, so you see a sec or maby its a fraction of a sec a white screen, and then you see the sreeen
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> bugs filed against plain "ubuntu" usually slip into the void of unlooked-at bugs
[17:24] <wesley> oh okay, i usally tag with [ ]
[17:24] <Dr_willis> kde4 is  slowly gettting improved on in the speed area. :)  testing out 4.2 now - and its definatly faster in that area
[17:24] <borut> HALLLOOO
[17:25] <wesley> but for example 4.000 is 4 fps ?
[17:27] <wesley> bug 1 is still not fixed
[17:28] <slow-motion> hi
[17:30] <Zehava> how can I find out what version of apache I have?
[17:31] <Zehava> got it
[17:31] <wesley> where can i see on lauchpad on which bugs i commented and which i reported ?
[17:32] <sehven> why cant i change my password
[17:32] <sehven> T_T
[17:43] <veryhappy> hello
[17:43] <veryhappy> im back
[17:44] <marek_> hi, how can i connect my laptop with my HSDPA phone via buetooth and knetworkmanager?
[17:44] <veryhappy> which notebook do you have
[17:44] <veryhappy> and which mobile
[17:44] <marek_> i have ibm with internal BT
[17:44] <marek_> and my mobile is samsung l76
[17:44] <veryhappy> ok
[17:44] <marek_> l760
[17:45] <DarkSmoke> hey guys
[17:45] <DarkSmoke> i have this big problem
[17:45] <marek_> i can send files, photos etc
[17:45] <DarkSmoke> i installed the latest driver from nvidia website cause it fixes some anoying bugs but now im getting a very low resolution
[17:45] <DarkSmoke> and i can't choose a higher one, any help plsss
[17:45] <veryhappy> DarkSmoke: and you cant install a higher resolution?
[17:45] <veryhappy> hmmm
[17:46] <DarkSmoke> install? :O you mean.. choose
[17:46] <veryhappy> DarkSmoke: if you remove your xserver
[17:46] <veryhappy> and then reinstall?
[17:46] <veryhappy> just a idea...
[17:46] <DarkSmoke> what do you mean? removing xorG?
[17:46] <veryhappy> no
[17:46] <DarkSmoke> that would remove half of kubuntu cause of dependencies
[17:46] <DarkSmoke> then what?
[17:46] <DarkSmoke> :/
[17:46] <marek_> DarkSmoke did you tried to use krandtray?
[17:46] <veryhappy> first try to remove your xserver
[17:47] <DarkSmoke> yep 640 is the highest marek_
[17:48] <marek_> DarkSmoke usually i typed "sudo dpkg-reconfiure xserver-org"
[17:48] <marek_> DarkSmoke usually i typed "sudo dpkg-reconfiure xserver-xorg"
[17:48] <marek_> when having problem with Xserver
[17:48] <veryhappy> marek_:
[17:49] <veryhappy> marek_: how did you try to connect with hdspa?
[17:49] <veryhappy> hsdpa
[17:49] <veryhappy> sorry
[17:49] <marek_> veryhappy i didnt tried at all
[17:49] <veryhappy> well sorry
[17:49] <veryhappy> my mistake
[17:49] <veryhappy> you want to make it the first time, right?
[17:49] <marek_> yup
[17:50] <veryhappy> well sorry im a german :-D
[17:50] <marek_> kein problem :)
[17:50] <veryhappy> well you want to take which programs?
[17:50] <veryhappy> knetworkmanager
[17:50] <veryhappy> and bluetooth?
[17:50] <marek_> i would like to have it on my knetworkmanager connections list
[17:50] <veryhappy> ok
[17:52] <veryhappy> which version of ubuntu do you use marek_
[17:52] <marek_> kubuntu 8.10
[17:53] <veryhappy> ok
[17:55] <veryhappy> well now i understand hsdpa is umts right?
[17:55] <marek_> yes
[17:55] <marek_> umts = 3G, HSDPA = 3,5G veryhappy
[17:57] <veryhappy> ok
[17:57] <veryhappy> well i didnt found any article sorry
[17:57] <veryhappy> but im ready to help you
[17:57] <veryhappy> if we going on step-by-step
[18:00] <veryhappy> marek_: please come into a private chat
[18:01] <sidney> what is the purpose of this 20 GB media drive
[18:02] <Dolo> i looked around but havent found any awsers why my dvd drive is showing up as a cd rom / blu ray
[18:08] <genii> Dolo: Can you pastebin result of command:    sudo lshw -C disk
[18:08] <Dolo> *-cdrom
[18:09] <Dolo>        description: DVD reader
[18:09] <Dolo>        product: DVD-ROM SD-612
[18:09] <Dolo>        vendor: SAMSUNG
[18:09] <Dolo>        physical id: 0
[18:09] <Dolo>        bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
[18:09] <Dolo>        logical name: /dev/cdrom1
[18:09] <Dolo>        logical name: /dev/dvd1
[18:09] <Dolo>        logical name: /dev/scd0
[18:09] <Dolo>        logical name: /dev/sr0
[18:09] <Dolo>        version: 0.5
[18:09] <Dolo>        capabilities: removable audio dvd
[18:09] <Dolo>        configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
[18:09] <jayhunold> !paste | Dolo
[18:10] <Dolo> ya i messed up
[18:10] <Dolo> i know what paste bin is
[18:10] <Dolo> wasnt thinking
[18:10] <Dolo> sry
[18:10] <khakane> WHO DARES TYPE MORE THAN ONE LINE ON IRC
[18:10] <Dolo> lol
[18:11] <Dolo> is there some way to change the driver?
[18:11] <Dolo> update?
[18:13] <Dolo> genii: ?
[18:15] <Dr_willis> One dosent normally use 'drivers' for optical disks. they all sort of follow the standards
[18:15] <genii> Dolo: Apologies on lag, work required me. Let me investigate this model to see if there is some known issue.
[18:15] <Dr_willis> ti really dosent matter if it 'shows up' as somthing else. :)  Unless you dont like the different icons or whatever...  Or was there some bigger issue I missed?
[18:16]  * Dr_willis scrolls up
[18:17] <Dolo> cant use dvds on it
[18:18] <Dolo> Showing up as cd rom / blu ray
[18:19] <Dr_willis> 'showing up' is one  thing.. mounting it is another.. what exactly do you mean by 'showing up' ? Tried to mount the thing manually and access the files?
[18:20] <Kuaera> I apologize for not lurking too long before asking, but I was wondering the status of the koffice-data-kde4 package bug [icons in wrong location]; I'd like to test KOffice 2 in Jaunty, so.
[18:20] <genii> Dolo: I'm seeing references to this issue of not being able to read dvds (in Windows). The suggested fix in this case seems to be to upgrade the firmware
[18:21] <hyper_ch> Kuaera: for jaunty see #ubuntu+1
[18:21] <Kuaera> Understood
[18:22] <Dolo> sry
[18:22] <Dolo> but how do i do that exatcly?
[18:22] <Dolo> the firmware?
[18:22] <Dolo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmware
[18:23] <Dr_willis> last time i had to update the firmware on a DVD+RW drive.. i just bought a new DVD+RW Drive. :)
[18:23] <gabriel_> hello to all
[18:23] <genii> Dr_willis: Me too, actually
[18:23] <Dolo> how do u go about updating firm ware
[18:23] <Dr_willis> You have tried to mount the thing manually?    sudo mount -t udf /dev/sdc0  /media/SOMEDIRTHATMUSTESIXT
[18:24] <genii> Dolo: The method varies depending on the manufacturer and type of firmware update method they use
[18:24] <Dolo> no but i tried right click mount
[18:24] <Dr_willis> Dolo,  i would say the dvd manafacurers have some tool for that.. that is prlbery a windows only tool.. and i would try out other methods/livecds/ and so forth and prove its a firmare issue
[18:24] <Dolo> well they have a driver update exe
[18:24] <Dolo> would that work?
[18:24] <Dr_willis> Dolo,  TRY it manually.. prove its a drive issue.. not just a quirk of the kde itnerface
[18:24] <Dolo> 1 sec
[18:24] <gabriel_> is good to install the KDE 4.2 ??
[18:24] <Dr_willis> Trouble shotoing 101 - when in doubt.. fall down to the lower levels of the OS and  try it there. :)
[18:25] <Dr_willis> Im using kde 4.2 now gabriel_  had a few issues with the install.. but it seems to be working ok
[18:25] <sourcemaker> Will there a new beta between kde 4.2 beta2 and the final?
[18:25] <gabriel_> cool Dr_willis i gone give a try
[18:25] <gabriel_> I love KDE is so nice and don't have any issue
[18:26] <Dr_willis> ive had lots of issues with kde4. :) i finally today decided to try it again
[18:26] <Dr_willis> 4.2 is a vast improvement so far
[18:26] <gabriel_> 4.1 is solid like a rock
[18:27] <gabriel_> just don't install compiz or emeral and works great!!
[18:27] <gabriel_> kwin efects are great
[18:28] <gabriel_> brb
[18:29] <genii> Dr_willis: This drive seems to be about 6-7 years old
[18:29] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:29] <Dr_willis> gabriel_,  i found kde 4.1 totally useless...
[18:30] <Dr_willis> so sluggish on all my machines. and constantly crashing.. at least now ive gone an hr+ on 4.2 and no crashes so far
[18:30] <ubuntu_> I have broken my vista master record while installing kubuntu to an external drive
[18:30] <wesley> sourcemaker no next release is kde 4.2 rv
[18:30] <Dr_willis> 4.2 still seems more sluggish then it should be.. But thats proberly in part to the nvidia/kde4 drivers
[18:30] <ubuntu_> what can I do to fix it?
[18:30] <Dr_willis> !fismbr
[18:30] <Dr_willis> !fixmbr
[18:31] <sourcemaker> wesley: thanks
[18:31] <ubuntu_> ubottu: not sure if your answer is for me
[18:31] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  depending on the version of windows you are using, and the cd's of windows you have.. theres various commands to restore the default windows MBR.
[18:31] <wesley> Dr_willis as far as i know kde4.2 still has grapical issiues
[18:31] <Dr_willis> read the GRUB links given above perhaps as a start.
[18:32] <ubuntu_> I have lost the vista mbr and can't boot the computer, only with external drive attached
[18:32] <Dr_willis> wesley,  yea - ive not seeing them as badly as in  4.1
[18:32] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  be more clear - you mean you cant boot the pc withOUT the excernal drive attatched?
[18:32] <wesley> Dr_willis thats true, but osx preforms beter on the same pc by me
[18:33] <gabriel_> installing 4.2
[18:33] <wesley> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/314914
[18:33] <Dr_willis> wesley,   Only OS-X i got here is on my OLD OLD imacDV, or in vmware :)
[18:33] <wesley> Dr_willis i have it running on a intel atom 330 with 2 gb of memory
[18:34] <Dr_willis> wesley,  i On a netbook?
[18:34] <wesley> Dr_willis no a nettop
[18:34] <Dr_willis> Been building up a Multi-Live-cd-thumbdrvie - for my Acer Aspire One  today. :) i got 4 live disrtos on it so far.
[18:35] <ubuntu_> how can I recover the master boot record?
[18:35] <Chris`> Hello I am experiencing issues with installing Kubuntu from a live iso partition. Atm I am running from the partition and I can mount the other partitions but "Install" cannot recognise the harddisk at all. It just returns blank info with no partitions or harddisks. How can I fix this?
[18:36] <wesley> Dr_willis, acer one is ofcourse less powerfull then a atom 330
[18:36] <wesley> but i doesnt ubuntu run on it then ?
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu  runs on it. :)  been testing out all sorts of live disrtos
[18:36] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: exactly
[18:36] <ubuntu_> I'm desperate
[18:36] <ubuntu_> is not my own computer
[18:37] <Dr_willis> Geexbox, Puppy,  SliTaz, TinyCore
[18:37] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  if you want windows to boot normally. Use your windows cd's and the proper  commands to fix the mbr/boot records.
[18:39] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: I have tried everything on the windows side, but with no luck
[18:39] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: How can I do it on linux? at least be able to boot grub without the external drive
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Then you dident do it right..  Ive restored the windows boot loader  a dozen times from varioyus windows cd's
[18:39] <wesley> Dr_willis, ive installed on my nettop windows 7, so those atoms are fairly strong
[18:39] <Dr_willis> To boot grub - you would need the grub files somewhere on the normal hard drive
[18:40] <Dr_willis> ie; a /boot/ partition on the hard drive somewhere.
[18:40] <Dr_willis> OR you dont install grub to the hd's mbr. but to the usb drives MBR and tellthe bios to boot that.. that way you leave windows alone
[18:40] <Dr_willis> but the live-cd-installer can not do that. I think only the alternative installer cd can do that
[18:43] <DarkSmoke> i updated kde4.2
[18:43] <DarkSmoke> and the icon of kvirc became a question mark
[18:43] <DarkSmoke> how can i change it ?
[18:43] <ubuntu-dron> Good evening. Has the nvidia-driver-new been updated to 180.22 yet
[18:44] <ubuntu-dron> ?
[18:44] <jussi01> ubuntu-dron: no. in jaunty possibly...
[18:45] <wesley> how can i see which driver my vga is using ?
[18:46] <ubuntu-dron> thanx a lot
[18:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm 4.2 seems to work 'better' with the desktop effects on for me. :)
[18:48] <gabriel_> there is no screen savers on 4.2
[18:48] <kai_> anybody know why vpnc needs admin rights to start?
[18:48] <tictric> wesley: for example with KDE-Infozentrum
[18:48] <gabriel_> 4.1 don't have any
[18:48] <tictric> click on OpenGL
[18:48] <Chrix98> evening!
[18:48] <Chrix98> what's the login for the 8.04 Live Demo ?
[18:49] <brian11111223323> .
[18:49] <wesley> tictric what do you mean ?
[18:49] <tictric> KDE-Infozentrum is an application that you can use
[18:50] <wesley> okay
[18:50] <tictric> to lookup things like that
[18:51] <wesley> oh okay, sorry i didnt you you where answering my asking
[18:51] <tictric> np
[18:52] <kai_> anybody know why vpnc needs admin rights to start?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> if its a system type service.. i would imagine it would need admin rights
[18:53] <Dr_willis> !info vpnc
[18:54] <kai_> its a normal vpn client even in windows a vpn client doesn't need admin rights
[18:55] <kurumin_> ei
[18:55] <kurumin> ei
[18:55] <kurumin_> porra
[18:55] <kurumin> hehehe
[18:55] <wesley> tictric you know how to get those in konsole those details
[18:55] <genii> !br | kurumin
[18:55] <kurumin> yap
[18:56] <kurumin> porra, acho que a última vez q conectei no irc ainda usava conexao discada
[18:56] <genii> kurumin: eg:   /join #kubuntu-br    o     /join #ubuntu-br
[18:57] <kurumin> tks
[19:02] <Iraimbilanja> Hi. Any way I can use a 64bit Ibex CD to chainload and rescue a Windows system on a 32bit pc?
[19:02] <Iraimbilanja> Mostly I want to get at a grub prompt, I guess
[19:04] <wesley> genii kde info centrum says then my intel gma x3100 uses i915 driver ( 3 d part )
[19:06] <tictric> wesley: you can also type: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:06] <tictric> provided you got 'less' installed
[19:07] <tictric> that shows you everything
[19:07] <gabriel_> nice!!!!
[19:07] <gabriel_> 4.2 rocks the house
[19:07] <Pici> less is installed by default iirc.
[19:08] <wesley> how can i configure driver in kubuntu ?
[19:08] <tictric> I always thought 'more' was the default
[19:09] <tictric> wesley: what exactly do you want to do?
[19:09] <Iraimbilanja> more is a dos app ;]
[19:09] <wesley> tictric change the vga driver ( i could do that in kde3 )
[19:09] <Dr_willis> more has beeb around on systems  for a LONG time. :)
[19:09] <Dr_willis> I rember when 'less' was new and cutting edge
[19:09] <gab3> will the alternate install CD allow me to select updated packages at install time?
[19:09] <stdin> less is more :)
[19:10] <stdin> gab3: it will let you do a network install, so yes
[19:10] <tictric> !xorg
[19:10] <gab3> great....
[19:10] <tictric> hope that helps wesley
[19:12] <wesley> no i needed to know how to change the vga driver
[19:12] <tictric> no, not really. What driver do you want to install then wesley
[19:12] <wesley> i965
[19:13] <wesley> kcontrol isnt anymore in 8.10
[19:16] <genii> wesley: The i9xx drivers are int he package xserver-xorg-video-i810
[19:19] <wesley> that package isnt installed default :s
[19:19] <wesley> so how do i get my vga to use that driver?
[19:20] <genii> wesley: First step would likely e to install the driver package.
[19:20] <genii> *be
[19:20] <serverin> how to join quakenets channel?
[19:20] <kurumin_> ooooooooooooooooo
[19:20] <wesley> genii i have
[19:20] <brian11111223323> can someone run me though the steps of installing vmware after its extracted?
[19:21] <serverin> how to join quakenets channel??
[19:21] <brian11111223323> it seems to install everything but fails in the final stages
[19:21] <jussi01> !repeat | serverin
[19:23] <serverin> join irc.quakenet.org
[19:23] <serverin> ?
[19:23] <wesley> !discriminationoffguikde
[19:23] <tictric> wesley: now I found something for you :-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i810
[19:23] <stdin> serverin: try /server irc.quakenet.org
[19:26] <rob-_-> hi
[19:27] <genii> CF007: You might want to ask specifically in #vmware
[19:28] <rob-_-> Anyone have any ideas why Kubuntu is so laggy and jerky? draging windows switching programs etc? running on C2D 2ghz, 2gb ram, nVid8600GT
[19:28] <wesley> the documentation of ubuntu is so userunfriendly for kubuntu users
[19:33] <Guest41528> hola
[19:33] <Guest41528> alguien sabe si existe algun canal irc de joomla?
[19:33] <bazhang> Guest41528, #joomla
[19:36]  * ildyakonov is away: ïÔÏÛ£Ì.
[19:36] <gabriel_> looks great
[19:36] <gabriel_> but i can not find the sound control
[19:37] <stnormal> are there any drivers for intel video controllers?
[19:38] <bazhang> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:39] <bazhang> stnormal, ^^
[19:39] <stnormal> thanks
[19:39] <anton_> hi all
[19:40] <stnormal> darn, i already have those installed
[19:40] <anton_> where is conf network in 8.10?
[19:40] <WIZARDSLOVAK> hello people
[19:41] <WIZARDSLOVAK> can i set up wireless connection if i am using live cd kubuntu on my notebook??
[19:42] <EagleScreen> WIZARDSLOVAK yes you can
[19:42] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well how
[19:42] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i am tryng system settings but there is nothing about wireless connection
[19:42] <bazhang> WIZARDSLOVAK, what wifi? usb or pci
[19:42] <WIZARDSLOVAK> wifi
[19:43] <evge> I have problems with subtitle in dragonplayer
[19:43] <evge> it just can't active the menu link for .srt subtitle
[19:43] <WIZARDSLOVAK> are there command for it?
[19:43] <evge> anyone that could help with similar issue
[19:43] <bazhang> WIZARDSLOVAK, yes
[19:43] <bazhang> WIZARDSLOVAK, usb or pci
[19:43] <gabriel_> the notifice icons is not working on KDE 4.2
[19:43] <gabriel_> any one know how to solve it
[19:44] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well laptotp has integrated atheron wireless card
[19:44] <WIZARDSLOVAK> and my router has wifi
[19:44] <WIZARDSLOVAK> with same laptop i am connected with xp
[19:44] <WIZARDSLOVAK> now i want kubuntu to connect
[19:44] <bazhang> WIZARDSLOVAK, what does ifconfig in terminal show
[19:44] <bazhang> ie two entries or three
[19:44] <bazhang> such as ath0
[19:44] <WIZARDSLOVAK> ok its shows only "eth0" and "lo"
[19:45] <bazhang> WIZARDSLOVAK, then it is not detecting the ath0
[19:46] <bazhang> !atheros
[19:46] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well what should i do?
[19:46] <bazhang> see above
[19:46] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i am using usb version of kubuntu
[19:46] <bazhang> wont matter afaik; is that live or persistent
[19:47] <resnostyle> i know this is not the right venue, but i am caught between using kubuntu or going back to windows. windows since i web development and need phtoshop and software like dreameaver.
[19:47] <bazhang> resnostyle, check the appdb for wine support of windows software or find alternatives native to linux
[19:48] <bazhang> !appdb
[19:48] <resnostyle> bazhang: yea, i ran it in wine but it hangs and is not quite right.
[19:48] <stnormal> i get sound in kubuntu, but it doesn't work right
[19:48] <resnostyle> stnormal: what do you mean?
[19:48] <bazhang> resnostyle, no real need for dreamweaver; there are plenty of html makers native to linux
[19:48] <stnormal> everything stutters and plays very slowl
[19:49] <stnormal> slowly
[19:49] <keymone> html makers suck, all of them
[19:49] <bazhang> !html
[19:49] <keymone> all except your hands ;)
[19:49] <bazhang> gedit/kate
[19:49] <resnostyle> bazhang: true. but my biggest concern is photoshop.
[19:50] <denis__> !de
[19:50] <bazhang> resnostyle, cs2/3?
[19:50] <resnostyle> and it didnt work right.
[19:50] <resnostyle> cs4
[19:50] <Guest41528> #joomla
[19:50] <bazhang> not sure about that one, check appdb for more info
[19:50] <resnostyle> bazhang: cs4. the newest one. support is spotty for it
[19:50] <bazhang> Guest41528, /join #channel
[19:51] <resnostyle> bazhang: it loads up but when i start doing stuff. it freezes.
[19:51] <bazhang> resnostyle, then learn to live without or dual boot/vbox
[19:51] <resnostyle> bazhang: LOL. fair enough.
[19:52] <resnostyle> bazhang: vbox?
[19:52] <resnostyle> bazhang: like vmware?
[19:52] <bazhang> resnostyle, not sure how virtualbox does with 3d (likely no support)
[19:52] <bazhang> resnostyle, yes; though more integrated with ubuntu now
[19:53] <bazhang> ie in the repos and easy to install keep up to date :)
[19:54] <stnormal> kubuntu is designed to automatically update when new drivers and that sort of thing are released, right?
[19:54] <stnormal> or at least, it'll notify me automatically that updates are available?
[19:54] <EagleScreen> yes
[19:56] <stnormal> I think kubuntu hates my laptop... DVD drive, audio adapter and graphics adapter are all really buggy
[19:56] <stnormal> but since it seems fine with my CPU and network adapter, I guess that's all I need.
[19:57] <EagleScreen> stnormal bad luck
[19:57] <EagleScreen> hardware support is improving with tha pass of time
[19:57] <stnormal> yeah, I suppose I'll just have to hope support gets better in the future
[19:57] <stnormal> that's what I figure
[19:58] <EagleScreen> now only buy hardware compatible with Linux
[19:58] <stnormal> I need linux for work, but it'd be nice not to have to boot into windows on this laptop
[19:58] <EagleScreen> stnormal what is your laptop model
[19:58] <stnormal> HP DV4-1114nr
[20:01] <EagleScreen> stnormal any download nfor Linux in its web page
[20:02] <stnormal> derp, i didn't even think of that
[20:02] <stnormal> i feel ridiculous now
[20:02] <stnormal> because I've been going the download site to check what components are actually in the lappy
[20:02] <stnormal> doesn't look like they support linux
[20:03] <EagleScreen> write HP support, and request support for Linux, it helps for manufacturers think in Linux
[20:03] <EagleScreen> stnormal if your hardware is not working propertly, report it to Launchpad
[20:05] <stnormal> should I "report a bug"?
[20:05] <ingerashu> can anyone help installing my webcam under ubuntu 8.10?
[20:05] <jacobw-uk> hi there, if install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage on my clean ubuntu install, will all the kde apps appear in the gnome menus and vice versa, i'm wanting to avoid that as not to confuse the other users of the computer
[20:05] <stnormal> or is there a better place to report it?
[20:05] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: a bug with kubuntu or kde?
[20:05] <EagleScreen> ingerashu yes, report a different bug for each device hardware that is not working propertly
[20:05] <jacobw-uk> if it a purely KDE bug, the you could report it to bugs.kde.org
[20:06] <stnormal> jacob: EagleScreen recommended that I report that my hardware isn't working properly to launchpad
[20:06] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: yes, it would be best to report that kind of bug to launchpad
[20:07] <stnormal> if I have Kubuntu installed, is it possible to re-install kubuntu from scratch from within kubuntu?
[20:07] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: it is likely that someone will see it and tell you the workaround/fix
[20:08] <EagleScreen> stnormal also if you were more specific with your problems, may be you could obtain a better help, but report it anyway
[20:08] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: have you started a thread requesting support on ubuntuforums.org or kubuntuforums.net?
[20:08] <stnormal> maybe I'll start there.
[20:08] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: it is probably possible, but it would be far far easier either to clean reinstall or try another route to fix your problem
[20:09] <stnormal> I have a suspicion that something buggy happened with the install. Booting from the LiveCD had a ton of errors during the boot sequence, and maybe 3/4 of the times I loaded Kubuntu from the CD there was some sort of crash
[20:09] <stnormal> and I could have sworn that one time that I booted from the liveCD, my audio actually worked fine
[20:09] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: could be a badly burnt cd, if you burnt it too fast then errors can be written on the desk
[20:09] <jacobw-uk> *disc
[20:09] <stnormal> hmm
[20:09] <bazhang> or corrupt iso
[20:10] <bazhang> md5 the iso
[20:10] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: thats entirely possible actually
[20:10] <stnormal> i ran out of CDRs, I can use a DVD-r instead, can't I?
[20:10] <bazhang> yep
[20:11] <jacobw-uk> stnormal: yes
[20:13] <stnormal> hmm, where do I find the hash to compare my ISO to?
[20:14] <jacobw-uk> stnormal, er in the same directory as you downloaded the kubuntu iso usually
[20:15] <jacobw-uk> be right back
[20:15] <bazhang> !md5
[20:16] <stnormal> well, I did the self-check on the liveCD, and it said everything was good
[20:16] <stnormal> is that basically what it was doing there?
[20:19] <stnormal> looks like my iso is good, I'll try reburning and see if that makes a difference
[20:33] <stnormal> huh, no errors and a MUCH faster boot-up
[20:33] <stnormal> I bet that CD was bad
[20:35] <stnormal> didn't fix the audio, though...
[20:44] <stnormal> if I do need to reinstall kubuntu, do I need to wipe the partition first?
[20:44] <aeonoris> So I changed the owner of everything in my home folder to me, and now it seems that certain programs can't access their files.  Is there any effective way to fix this?
[20:45] <eelriver> stnormal, No
[20:45] <aeonoris> stnormal- i'm pretty sure a wipe is not needed
[20:45] <stnormal> eh, nevermind, it doesn't look like the bad cd screwed anything up
[20:46] <stnormal> I didn't get any of the read errors with the DVD, but nothing worked any different in the OS.
[20:46] <stnormal> it did seem to boot almost as fast as the actual installation, which seems a bit weird
[20:47] <eelriver> aeonoris, IWhat programs?
[20:49] <edoceo> Does ubuntu have 'acroread' ?
[20:49] <powertool08> !acroread
[20:49] <powertool08> My guess is no
[20:50] <edoceo> Turns out it's actually the Adobe version that runs on linux - how to tell the bot?
[20:50] <powertool08> edoceo: and my guess was wrong
[20:50] <aeonoris> Uh, yakuake and others, it's their configuration files
[20:50] <powertool08> edoceo: sudo apt-get acroread will install it
[20:51] <edoceo> I tried that but my system would not:  E: Package acroread has no installation candidate
[20:51] <eelriver> aeonoris, You should be able to delete them (after backing up) then restart the program. They will make another config file with the correct permissions
[20:52] <ole_> Hi kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 looks great, thanks!. But I have one question:  Is there a recommended way to install firfox on kubuntu 8.10?
[20:53] <powertool08> edoceo: Looks like its not part of the official repo but in the mediabuntu one  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/23/install-adobe-acrobat-reader-812-on-ubuntu-804/
[20:54] <JontheEchidna> ole_: sudo apt-get install firefox --no-install-recommends
[20:54] <aeonoris> eelriver, but I would have to set anything I configured again, right?
[20:55] <powertool08> JontheEchidna: I think its firefox-3.0, try typing firefox then <tab>
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> powertool08: doesn't matter which one really, firefox depends on firefox-3.0
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> ole_: you'll also probably want this theme: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574
[20:55] <eelriver> aeonoris, Yes, or look at the permissions of the new file, set the correct permissions on the backup and replace new .congi file with the back up
[20:56] <ole_> aeonoris: thanks that really helped the dependencies, is there a recommended theme as well?
[20:56] <powertool08> JontheEchidna: Oh sorry, I misread your comment
[20:56] <eelriver> aeonoris, Does that make sense?
[20:57] <aeonoris> ole_, wrong person.  try JontheEchidna
[20:57] <aeonoris> eelriver, yeah, thanks.
[20:57] <ole_> JontheEchidna: Thanks!
[21:00] <draik> Hello all.
[21:01] <rhys> hey powertool
[21:02] <draik> I'm using Firefox 3.0.5. I don't know what is happening, but it keeps on sending/receiving https requests to Google. I don't have to even be at a Google site. I go to MySpace and it is still happening. It happens only in Firefox. Am I missing something.
[21:21] <jota> hola
[21:21] <kkathman> what could be causing my screen to go to "saver" mode and locked, when I have the screen saver set to like 2 hours. (it seems to go to saver mode about 15 minutes in)
[21:23] <mefisto_> kkathman: could it be triggered by your hardware? monitor maybe?
[21:24] <kkathman> mefisto_:  hmm well I am somewhat of a loss then, why it doesnt go to saver mode under Gnome on the same box?
[21:24] <jussi01> kkathman: have you set you screen power management settings correctly?
[21:25] <kkathman> jussi01:  they are in the default mode, i.e. power management is disabled
[21:25] <jussi01> kkathman: system settings, display, power control
[21:25] <jussi01> try explicitly disabling it
[21:25] <kkathman> jussi01: ok thanks I'll try that
[21:26] <jussi01> kkathman: and do let me know if it works
[21:27] <kkathman> jussi01:  seems the highest you can set the power mgmt is 2 hours :(
[21:28] <kkathman> but we'll see
[21:28] <jussi01> kkathman: you cant set lower to disabled?
[21:28] <kkathman> I can on the standby, but apparently not on the other two?
[21:28] <dirk_> hi! does anybody try to import some address files to the addressbook in kontact? there is a small problem with the kategories :(
[21:28] <jussi01> weird. maybe check the general power management settings also
[21:29] <kkathman> jussi01:  well, now it seems to work :)
[21:29] <kkathman> general power mgmt ?
[21:29] <jussi01> kkathman: anyway, Im off to bed, leave me a message on how it goes
[21:29] <Daisuke_Ido> kkathman and jussi01, neat
[21:29] <dirk_> I can't choose a kategorie for the values which are outside my windows :(
[21:30] <jussi01> kkathman: system settings advanced power management
[21:31] <jussi01> kkathman: yeah, there are screen setting in that also
[21:31] <kkathman> jussi01:  looks like this is the culprit
[21:32] <Daisuke_Ido> does kde4 properly suspend yet?
[21:32] <jussi01> kkathman: yeps, was just thinking that
[21:33] <carolina> fgh
[21:35] <genii> carolina: Yes, we see you
[21:35] <aib> [   21.671583] NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 180.22, but  this kernel module has the version 180.11.
[21:35] <aib> 180.11 is the packaged nvidia driver
[21:36] <aib> 180.22 is the one I built from source. how do I get rid of 180.11 ?
[21:37] <steevy06> salut
[21:38] <steevy06> ya t-il quelqu'un
[21:38] <steevy06> ?
[21:38] <steevy06> hello
[21:38] <steevy06> ?
[21:38] <steevy06> you are here ?
[21:39] <steevy06> i am novice
[21:39] <steevy06> in irc
[21:39] <steevy06> satari
[21:39] <steevy06> bonjourno
[21:39] <steevy06> lol
[21:40] <steevy06> ya quelqu'un ?
[21:40] <Tm_T> !irc | steevy06
[21:40] <Tm_T> steevy06: especially look the first url in there
[21:41] <steevy06> ok
[21:41] <steevy06> tanks
[21:42] <KomiaPoika> is there a package to have screen savers other than blank screen with kde 4.0.3 in kubuntu8?
[21:43] <Tm_T> wajig search screensaver  >> kscreensaver and kscreensaver-xsavers-extra
[21:43] <KomiaPoika> are there packages to get kde 4.2 installed?
[21:43] <Tm_T> for example
[21:43] <Tm_T> KomiaPoika: see kubuntu.org for that
[21:44] <carolina> hooolaaa
[21:45] <steevy06> hello
[21:46] <steevy06> ok
[21:47] <steevy06> IM french
[21:47] <Tm_T> !fr | steevy06
[21:48] <steevy06> oki tanks !!
[21:48] <steevy06> bye
[21:49] <gab3> where can i find an i686 kernel for kubuntu?
[21:49] <gab3> :-)
[21:49] <Tm_T> gab3: generic
[21:49] <gab3> optimized, i mean
[21:50] <gab3> for i686
[21:50] <OrbJinzo> compile it yourself.
[21:50] <gab3> i could..
[21:50] <genii> gab3: You could also use apt-build
[21:50] <Tm_T> that's as optimised as you can get, unless you like only to get _your_ hardware supported alone
[21:50] <Tm_T> gab3: prolly it's enough, as it's built in i686
[21:50] <genii> The problem with custom kernels is you also lose all the precompiled drivers whic go along with that kernel.
[21:51] <OrbJinzo> ^^
[21:51] <OrbJinzo> also it takes a long time >_<
[21:51] <genii> Yup
[21:51]  * Tm_T sees no point to make another i686 kernel
[21:51] <Tm_T> as generic is one
[21:52] <OrbJinzo> The only reason i see is if you have more 3gigs of ram
[21:53] <OrbJinzo> Kinda funny though i recently switched to a server based kernel
[21:54] <KomiaPoika> how can i get kde 4.2 in kubuntu8
[21:55] <OrbJinzo> look at the channel topic
[21:55] <OrbJinzo> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[21:55] <Tm_T> indeed
[21:56]  * OrbJinzo still thinks kde 4 sucks
[21:56] <Tm_T> OrbJinzo: ok
[21:57] <Tm_T> glad my 4.3-series is great
[21:57] <OrbJinzo> is that SVN?
[21:57] <Tm_T> indeed it is
[21:57] <carolina> hello
[21:57] <Tm_T> hi hi carolina
[21:57] <OrbJinzo> hello
[21:58] <OrbJinzo> how is 4.3
[21:58] <Tm_T> good, good, some nice features added already
[21:58] <Tm_T> some strings fixed etc
[21:58] <OrbJinzo> the power manger bug fixed yet?
[21:59] <OrbJinzo> causes X to crash.
[21:59] <Tm_T> what power manager bug?
[21:59] <OrbJinzo> its a bug with kde 4
[21:59] <carolina> hi hi
[21:59] <Szadek> were diid you got kde 4.3 ?
[21:59] <Tm_T> OrbJinzo: never had bug
[21:59] <OrbJinzo> he compiled it via SVN
[21:59] <OrbJinzo> Well let me try to describe
[22:00] <Tm_T> Szadek: it's not 4.3, but what will eventually be that
[22:00]  * Szadek >> too lazy to compile looool
[22:00] <carolina> i can not see java program, how can help me???
[22:00] <Tm_T> !java | carolina
[22:00] <carolina> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
[22:00] <Tm_T> carolina: or, install package kubuntu-restricted-formats
[22:01] <OrbJinzo> it was mainly with laptops as you can see but would spit an error when you excuted a program and would cause X to crash with check battery state error.
[22:01] <carolina> in konsole???
[22:01] <OrbJinzo> ya
[22:01] <carolina> wait
[22:01] <Tm_T> carolina: in konsole, write "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:01] <KomiaPoika> how can i upgrade from hardy to intrepid ... apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:01] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[22:02] <Tm_T> KomiaPoika: ^
[22:02] <KomiaPoika> rgr
[22:02] <OrbJinzo> haha bot does all the work'
[22:02] <OrbJinzo> hello this is tech support.
[22:02] <carolina> slowly, please, im speak spanish!!!
[22:02] <OrbJinzo> have you tried turning it off and on?
[22:02] <Tm_T> OrbJinzo: no, just lets us away from repeating stuff
[22:02] <OrbJinzo> Tm_T tis joke
[22:02] <Tm_T> I know
[22:03] <steevy06> hello
[22:03] <OrbJinzo> !spanish
[22:03] <Szadek> just a question - which irc client are you using right now ?
[22:03] <Tm_T> irssi
[22:03] <OrbJinzo> Im using konversation
[22:04] <Szadek> im enjoying quassel =)
[22:04] <OrbJinzo> quassel?
[22:04] <Tm_T> Szadek: though, you perhaps shouldn't do polls here (:)
[22:04] <Szadek> im not doing that , im just asking a question ....
[22:04] <Tm_T> you kinda did =)
[22:05] <Tm_T> anyway, nevermind, carry on etc
[22:05] <OrbJinzo> heh
[22:05] <Szadek> loool
[22:05] <steevy06> hello, i search the french serveur please
[22:05] <steevy06> i use ubuntu
[22:05] <steevy06> tanks
[22:05] <OrbJinzo> ! french
[22:05] <steevy06> tanks
[22:06] <OrbJinzo> !random
[22:06] <OrbJinzo> lol
[22:06] <OrbJinzo> no random kick script
[22:06] <OrbJinzo> hehe
[22:06] <Tm_T> !bot > OrbJinzo
[22:07] <OrbJinzo> aye thanks
[22:13] <Szadek> amarok 2 plasma stuff , is there anyway to remove that ?? is kinda annoying and ocuppies lot's of space
[22:13] <Szadek> =(
[22:13] <Tm_T> Szadek: just drag it away
[22:14] <Tm_T> I mean, drag other items to take space over it
[22:14] <Szadek> yah but i dont want that space at all lool
[22:14] <Szadek> i dont use any widgets there
[22:14] <Tm_T> well then you reduce window size
[22:15] <Szadek> its a sad solution that one
[22:15] <Szadek> =/
[22:15] <Tm_T> Szadek: bah, you don't get what I mean, and I fail to explain
[22:15] <Tm_T> Szadek: those splitters in both side of the plasma view can be moved
[22:15] <Szadek> i know
[22:15] <Szadek> i do that already
[22:15] <Tm_T> so, what's the problem?
[22:16] <Szadek> but sometimes it shows again that space
[22:16] <Szadek> i want to disable
[22:16] <Szadek> to not have that space
[22:16] <Tm_T> you can't IIRC
[22:17] <armel> slt
[22:20] <mooglinux> logged into the 4.2 beta, and things had been working good, but i am without sound in amarok.
[22:20] <mooglinux> recieved an error message about my sound device not working
[22:21] <mooglinux> pidgin does, however, make its notification noises. so somethings bugged out on me
[22:23] <Tm_T> mooglinux: see your phonon settings
[22:24] <mooglinux> where are those located? in multimedia under system settings?
[22:24] <Tm_T> mooglinux: yes
[22:25] <mooglinux> ok i have a number of output devices here. pulseaudio, esound, and three nvidia ones
[22:25] <jacobw-uk> hi there, how do i uninstall all the dependencies of the kubuntu-desktop package?
[22:25] <jacobw-uk> i don't think i can manage kde and gnome on the same system that computer illerates have to use also :s
[22:26] <Dr_willis> so they pick what desktop to use at login.. whats so hard about that?
[22:26] <KomiaPoika> jacobw-uk: so what GUI is for computer illiterates?
[22:26] <Tm_T> !puregnome | jacobw-uk
[22:27] <jacobw-uk> KomiaPoika: well I've taught them to use GNOME and I don't want to confuse them *cough* irritate them *cough*
[22:27] <Dr_willis> Theres too many handy kde apps to limit yourself to just gnome
[22:28] <Dr_willis> set them up to use gnome by default and let them go at it..
[22:28] <jacobw-uk> yeah for me there is. but for very basic users who already know how to use gnome thats not a significent factor to warrant time and effort into changing it
[22:28] <Dr_willis> !netbook
[22:28] <jacobw-uk> unfortunately kde and gnome menus have a habit of colliding.
[22:29] <jacobw-uk> and also i want to start using the jaunty alphas on a seperate partition ;)
[22:29] <mooglinux> under gnome you can edit the menus easily enough
[22:29] <Dr_willis> You can never dumb things down enough, eventually the users have to put forth some effort and learn the tools they have.
[22:29] <sd32> help, all  my entry fields in windows are half size,how can i get them back to normal?
[22:29] <jacobw-uk> Dr_willis: yeah they can in the future if they want of their own accord
[22:29] <bastid_raZor> using k3b i notice i'm missing some of the external programs k3b uses to work properly. eMovix is the only package or packages that would contain eMovix..
[22:30] <Dr_willis> ive never had emovix actually work. :)
[22:30] <Dr_willis> Not tried it in ages however
[22:30] <jacobw-uk> !puregnome
[22:30] <bastid_raZor> Dr_willis; what is it for?
[22:30] <Dr_willis> bastid_raZor,  it lets you make a bootable dvd I think that has an embeded movie player.
[22:31] <Dr_willis> at least  i think thats what it did at one time
[22:31] <keres> how do you do italicized text in konversation?'
[22:31] <bastid_raZor> Dr_willis; okay. i won't be needing something like that. thanks.
[22:32] <jacobw-uk> the one thing that really annoys me about gnome is the lack of a good clipboard system
[22:32] <Dr_willis> never noticed. :)
[22:32] <jacobw-uk> so annoying to close an app and its data disappear of the clipboard
[22:32] <Dr_willis> i tend to install glipper/klipper
[22:33] <Dr_willis> thats a spcific gnome bug from what i hear.
[22:35] <jacobw-uk> Dr_willis: hmm if it is a bug its very long running one
[22:37] <mooglinux> i reordered the sound devices and put one that does work at the top, but amarok still isnt giving me sound
[22:37] <mooglinux> i tried closing and reopening amarok but that didnt do it. what gives?
[22:39] <bastid_raZor> Dr_willis; considering i have all the rest it asks for, what else might i need to be able to burn mp3's to a cd? it claims it needs them to be in wave format.
[22:40] <bastid_raZor> Dr_willis; i seem to remember in the past that i was able to just drag them down and it would convert them on the fly.. i may be mistake but i thought it was possible
[22:40] <realmatt> is there a way to have my laptop speakers cut off when I plug in my headphones?  It works automatially in Vista but I can't seem to get it to work in Ubuntu
[22:43] <Dr_willis> For k3b? Theres some  addon you must install.. It used to be listed in the kubuntu faq page I recall.
[22:43] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu-restricted-extras package may include the package
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> thanks
[22:45] <bastid_raZor> i run gnome and have ubuntu-restricted-extras .. would that be the same? i just have a few KDE apps i use since gnome lacks in a few places.
[22:45] <mooglinux> ive got no sound in amarok, but i changed the order of sound devices to put working ones on top. i have sound in pidgin
[22:47] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras have some overlap in what they install.. but each installs some stuff the other does not
[22:47] <Dr_willis> I always install both - Since i use gnome and kde.
[22:47] <bastid_raZor> okay, will do.
[22:48] <bastid_raZor> the kubuntu-restricted-extras is the key. it now works fine. thanks Dr_willis
[22:48] <Dr_willis> I got a little script of like 10-20 things i always install on a clean install :)
[22:48] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras are like #1
[22:48] <Dr_willis> brb
[22:52] <mooglinux> im on the latest build of 4.2 and i logged in and got a message that my sound device didnt work. i switched to a different one in the settings but amarok is still not playing any sounds. pidgin, however, has worked the entire time (alert sounds)
[22:53] <draik> I'm using Firefox 3.0.5. I don't know what is happening, but it keeps on sending/receiving https requests to Google. I don't have to even be at a Google site. I go to MySpace and it is still happening. It happens only in Firefox. Am I missing something?
[22:55] <Dr_willis> ad images comming from google servers?
[22:56] <Dr_willis> or google specific extensions
[22:56] <Dr_willis> how are you even detecting that its doing this?
[22:57] <khakane> if i already have a system loaded on a HD, and i want to add a 2nd hard drive and setup linux raid, is that possible? or will i need to reload server?
[22:57] <Dr_willis> Depends on the raid setup i imagine
[22:57] <Dr_willis> !raid
[22:57] <khakane> it will just be a RAID1
[22:58] <khakane> but like i know it will change from like /dev/sda to /dev/md0 or whatever
[23:00] <draik> Dr_willis: I don't even go to Google and it happens.
[23:00] <draik> I used WireShark to check the connection.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> google servers also serve up a lot of ad images.. and some sites  work with google to get ad/other stuff also.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> so a image from bubba.com may be comming from google somewhere
[23:01] <sidney> how do i add my audigy's listed in sound control but not in the terminal
[23:02] <sidney> it's listed
[23:15] <fcghjkl> i searching for fs like unionfs, but with writing feature (only whole file on partiton with most free of space (free space detecting automaticaly while writing file(s) ) ).
[23:16] <fcghjkl> i need to union partitions like raid
[23:16] <fcghjkl> without formatting and any other manipulations
[23:17] <fcghjkl> and if hard drive disconnected by me,i want to see files on other computer
[23:17] <fcghjkl> i found AuFS, but its something like toy...
[23:19] <maxbaldwin> how do you clear Konqueror's cache like you do in firefox?
[23:19] <maxbaldwin> personal data, visited sites, etc...
[23:27] <joao_> alo som
[23:29] <warlock2> to ubuntu 8.04 ltsp4 o ltsp5?
[23:31] <warlock2> I can install ltsp with one ethernet?
[23:34] <maxbaldwin> what do you mean 'one ethernet'?
[23:34] <maxbaldwin> join #ubuntu
[23:34] <bthompson> is there a way to remote desktop into kubuntu
[23:35] <maxbaldwin> bthompson: krdc
[23:36] <bthompson> maxbaldwin: what about having the ability to remote desktop into kubuntu
[23:37] <maxbaldwin> that's the program to do it in.
[23:37] <maxbaldwin> or just ssh in. :\
[23:38] <bthompson> so there is nothing you have to setup..like in windows you have to check the box for allow remote desktop ability
[23:40] <bthompson> i want to be able to remote into the machine im on..
[23:43] <jussi01> !vnc | bthompson
[23:48] <rben13> hi
[23:49] <rben13> For some reason, when I boot my Kubuntu DVD, I get a screen resolution that is unusable. My computer uses a nVidia 9800 GT graphics card
[23:49] <rben13> Anyone got any ideas as to why?
[23:51] <jussi01> rben13: err, unusable as in?
[23:51] <rben13> Can't actually get to anything to click on
[23:51] <jussi01> hrm
[23:53] <bthompson> !FreeNX
[23:53] <rben13> Wife just arrived and insists she be fed
[23:53] <rben13> So I guess I'll revisit this later
[23:53] <rben13> thanks for help
[23:59] <bthompson> rr http://ppa.launchpad.net VERSION/main Packages 404 Not Found
[23:59] <bthompson> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net VERSION/main Sources 404 Not Found