[07:20] <persia> Does this channel provide support as well as development?
[07:27]  * persia decides it's a bad time-of-day, and tries #ubuntu
[07:29] <[reed]> persia: what do you need?
[07:30] <persia> [reed], I'm using Thunderbird, and the folder selection pane just disappeared.  I haven't been able to figure out how to get it back.
[07:30] <[reed]> oh, I don't know much about thunderbird... try irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird or #maildev
[07:30] <persia> Excellent pointer.  Thanks.
[10:45] <asac> fta: bumb
[10:46] <asac> fta: http://identi.ca/notice/1752736
[11:20] <asac> [reed]: whats the process of getting a build dep added to the builders?
[12:22] <asac> [reed]: is there  a machine readable form of tinderbox pages somewhere?
[12:22] <asac> e.g. notifications et al ;)
[12:23] <asac> i see that there is firebot having access to it ... does it use a internal api/mechanism=
[13:29] <BUGabundo> fta: asac: Jan  9 10:05:26 blubug kernel: [ 7733.717170] firefox-3.1[8353]: segfault at 7f85b8806793 ip 00007f85ba084f58 sp 00007fffc3447440 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7f85ba00c000+168000]
[13:29] <BUGabundo> Jan  9 10:09:41 blubug kernel: [ 7988.651068] firefox-3.1[10482]: segfault at 7fa061806793 ip 00007fa0630abf58 sp 00007fff6c46c470 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7fa063033000+168000]
[13:29] <BUGabundo> Jan  9 10:10:59 blubug kernel: [ 8067.326601] firefox-3.1[11510]: segfault at 7f252ad06793 ip 00007f252c589f58 sp 00007fff3594c8e0 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7f252c511000+168000]
[13:38] <asac_> reconnect
[13:38] <asac_> hmm
[13:38] <asac_> quite shaky today here
[13:39] <asac_> BUGabundo: amd64?
[13:39] <BUGabundo> asac did you read my last comment?
[13:39] <BUGabundo> yeah!
[13:39] <asac_> only three segfault lines
[13:39] <asac_> probably flash?
[13:39] <BUGabundo> no
[13:39] <BUGabundo> many more!
[13:39] <asac_> nspluginwrapper?
[13:40] <BUGabundo> 8 lines
[13:40] <BUGabundo> didn't have any flash base page opened!
[13:40] <BUGabundo> using adobe 64bits pluging
[13:40] <BUGabundo> do you know if there is a new version?
[13:42] <asac_> no ... i dont care so much about 64bit plugin
[13:42] <asac_> your crashes are meaningless for us without a backtrace
[13:43] <BUGabundo> back
[13:43] <BUGabundo> pidgin is crashing.... due to PA
[13:43] <asac_> damn ... tinderbox burning everywhere ;)
[14:18] <asac_> again a reconnect
[14:26] <fta> BUGabundo, i guess it's the crash on exit that you get when you clink on a link in another app. it's not the main browser dying. just the new one.
[14:37] <asac> fta: since when do we get such cfrashes?
[14:37] <asac> (on exit)?
[14:40] <BUGabundo> fta:  it could be
[14:43] <fta> asac, in 3.1 ? almost forever.
[14:45] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/102763/
[14:45] <fta> 3.2 too
[14:48] <BUGabundo> that is no good! LOL
 [reed]: whats the process of getting a build dep added to the builders? <-- file a bug under mozilla.org :: Release Engineering
[14:49] <fta> BUGabundo, well, it has no visible impact
 [reed]: is there  a machine readable form of tinderbox pages somewhere? <-- http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/<treename>/quickparse.txt
[14:50] <fta> probably another jemalloc issue
[14:53] <BUGabundo> fta it just looks bad!
[14:53] <BUGabundo> ppl may blame the OS too
[15:18] <asac> [reed]: thanks (2times)
[15:20] <asac> fta: is that with dbg symbols?
[15:23] <fta> asac, sure, i have a lot those installed, http://paste.ubuntu.com/102781/
[15:26] <asac> fta: so its jemalloc prob?
[15:27] <fta> not sure, but that's my best bet
[15:29] <fta> debian bug 490360
[15:29] <fta> +  * build/unix/run-mozilla.sh, debian/postinstrm.in, debian/rules,
[15:29] <fta> +    xulrunner/stub/nsXULStub.cpp: Disable jemalloc by default, because of all
[15:29] <fta> +    the kinds of random problems it causes, but let advanced users load it by
[15:29] <fta> +    setting the MOZILLA_JEMALLOC environment variable. Closes: #490360.
[15:29] <fta> so debian disabled jemalloc by default
[16:06] <asac> fta: hmm
[16:06] <asac> fta: what do you have in env?
[16:06] <fta> asac, ? for MOZILLA_JEMALLOC ?
[16:06] <asac> is that an upstream thing at all?
[16:06] <fta> asac, no, it's a debian patch
[16:07] <asac> fta: so its the remote client crashing right?
[16:07] <asac> not the firefox main process
[16:08] <fta> no, the initial window also crashes on exit
[16:08] <asac> ok so everything crashes on exit ;)
[16:08] <asac> does xpcshell also crashon exit?
[16:08] <asac> (i guess)
[16:09] <fta> i don't think so
[16:09] <asac> fta: try:
[16:09] <asac> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.5/run-mozilla.sh /usr/bin/xpcshell-1.9
[16:09] <asac> or well
[16:09] <asac> the 1.9.1 equivalent
[16:09] <asac> then hit ctrl+D
[16:09] <fta> fta@ix:/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2a1pre $ ./run-mozilla.sh ./xpcshell
[16:09] <fta> js>
[16:09] <fta> fta@ix:/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2a1pre $
[16:10] <fta> fta@ix:/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1b3pre $ ./run-mozilla.sh ./xpcshell
[16:10] <fta> js>
[16:10] <fta> fta@ix:/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1b3pre $
[16:10] <asac> does upstream build crash too?
[16:11] <fta> i don't think it crashes with an empty session (i.e., no tab) but i always have plenty so it always crashes for me
[16:12] <asac> so upstream too?
[16:15] <fta> not tested
[21:01] <fta> asac, do you know if this 3G key is supported on ubuntu ? http://maboutique-internet.orange.fr/residentiel/equipements/Cle3G.aspx (details say it's an ICON 225)
[21:58] <fta> asac, the crash on exit is visible after all. if you click on a link inside evolution, after a while, you get the popup "sorry ff closed unexpectedly, report problem / cancel"
[22:25] <asac> fta: option card. should work. might be a bit tricky if it defaults to USB storage
[22:25] <asac> so at best get one without USB storage capability
[22:28] <fta> it's a 3G/edge/grps/.../wifi key, no mention of storage in the doc
[22:28] <fta> http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?c=OUKDevice&pagename=Business&cid=1044137060039
[22:30] <asac> in worst case you have blacklist a module or run a command after device insertion
[22:30] <asac> my guess is that it works
[22:30] <asac> just order online so you can send back
[22:32] <fta> i can jump from adsl 8M + voip, to adsl 18M + voip + tv + 3G for the same price
[22:36] <fta> asac, when you rename a patch, plz update the series
[22:39] <fta> asac, fixed
[22:49] <fta> http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/icon225.html
[22:54] <fta> asac, can't n-m handle it automatically??? http://www.equinoxefr.org/post/2008/04/21/la-clef-orange-icon-225-sur-ubuntu-804/ says you need their driver and scripts
[23:00] <fta> ok, http://www.pharscape.org/icon225.html
[23:49] <fta> crimsun, is xorg usable now? Can I unpin it?