[00:00] <marabout_> n8tuser: that is the info on the Ubuntu machine
[00:00] <l7> n8tuser: hmm, why do i want to use the domain ubuntu-desktop.myhome.com?
[00:01] <Stargazer> Nsadmin, idk how. :(
[00:01] <jokkah> whats best to run cpu diagnostic and see if it has any burnt transistors ... etc ?
[00:01] <marabout_> n8tuser:  here's the mac info http://paste.ubuntu.com/102447/
[00:01] <tinkywonk> need help with ubuntu intrepid 8.10 nvidia 96 driver and mx400 resolution problem
[00:02] <komies> Hey guys. My ubuntu pc has been doing some weird things recently... firefox crashes easily, and it no longer has a record of my bookmarks. xchat suddenly deleted all my colours, and in pidgin, I can see a list of user logs but not the actual logs. any insight?
[00:02] <unlink> owh: what do those Option "monitor-*" lines do?
[00:02] <n8tuser> l7 -> i suggested a solution, if you dont want it, then suffer the issues you are having
[00:02] <owh> unlink: They provide resolutions/bit depths
[00:02] <owh> unlink: Note that each has a virtual entry.
[00:02] <unlink> owh: i mean inside of your "Device" section
[00:03] <ljkjkj> which software can i use for streaming  hd videos from my server?
[00:03] <unlink> it says         Option    "monitor-VGA"     "External VGA"
[00:03] <pentaside> I have an ATI Radeon x1200 and I'm running 8.10.  Whenever I try to play any sort of "fullscreen" game, the graphics are all over the place.  I tried to find x1200 Linux drivers, couldn't find any.  So, I'm just using whatever came with Intrepid.  Any ideas?
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> komies, Used any unsupported repos or added things manually.
[00:03] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> there should be an equivalent command to show the route on a mac
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pentaside, HAve you tried with compiz effects turned off
[00:03] <komies> Jack_Sparrow: no, the only things i've installed in months are fromt he automatic updates
[00:04] <owh> unlink: They give names to the various monitors.
[00:04] <pentaside> Jack_Sparrow: I think so... but let's try... hold please.
[00:04] <marabout_> n8tuser:  yeah i forgot it I think it is something .local but I cant remember
[00:04] <owh> unlink: The Intel card has an internal name for them, but they're not really human readable.
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> komies, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[00:04] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> i am not a mac user, so you have to dig up the info from google
[00:05] <Sh0rtKiller> got2think.org
[00:06] <komies> is this the link you're looking for, Jack_Sparrow?  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe pastebinit 0.9-0ubuntu1
[00:06] <unlink> owh: all right, i was able to author an xorg.conf that maintains the status quo of the aticonf generated one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/102451/
[00:06] <unlink> owh: but it doesn't actually fix the dead space issue
[00:07] <pentaside> Jack_Sparrow: No.  Same results when Visual Effects are set to "None".
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> pentaside, just a thought
[00:08] <marabout_> n8tuser:  yeah working on that right now  but I think the nature of the problem is this file that I was dealing with:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/102452/  - disregard the "this"
[00:08] <komies> is there some kind of system rollback feature i can use?
[00:08] <owh> unlink: What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log look like when you restart X?
[00:08] <pentaside> Jack_Sparrow: Ok... Good attempt.  Thanks.
[00:09] <kroffe> how do i mount my scsi disks in ubuntu? they have filesystem NTFS now but i wanna have Linux fileformat
[00:09] <ljkjkj> does anyone know how to stream hd videos from server?
[00:09] <unlink> owh: the only (WW)s i get are like AIGLX: 3D driver claims not to support visual 0x##
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> pentaside, try /join #ati
[00:09] <unlink> owh: and no (EE)s
[00:09] <ljkjkj> which program can i use for?
[00:09] <pentaside> I tried to switch to Metacity from Compiz also.  That didn't work either.  I'm not even sure what the difference is.
[00:09] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> you have not told me yet the ip address of your ubuntu and your mac
[00:09] <nsadmin> kroffe: want to keep the data on the ntfs?
[00:09] <pentaside> Jack_Sparrow: Good idea.
[00:09] <owh> unlink: Does it tell you what virtual resolution it's using?
[00:10] <kroffe> nsadmin: no i dont. i gonna lost little info but it dont matter
[00:10] <n8tuser> ljkjkj -> icecast perhaps?
[00:10] <marabout_> n8tuser:  i did this first: " sudo vim /etc/avahi/services/afpd.service" then tried to copy and paste what I sent you into that file. I have a hunch that it did not work - gave you the ubuntu machine IP still working on the mac IP
[00:10] <roccity_> kroffe, mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /path/to/mount/point
[00:10] <angie> trying to install gresec kernel but i get nvidia erlated errors
[00:10] <unlink> owh: virtual size is 6400x1200
[00:10] <nsadmin> kroffe: then you can just repartition and/or format the drive
[00:10] <ljkjkj> thanks, i will look for it
[00:10] <angie> i geuss i didnt build it into my make xconfig
[00:10] <angie> but i dun see the option to
[00:10] <Dante123> what is terminal command for backing up xconf file
[00:11] <kroffe> okey but point? what is that?
[00:11] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> if you had given me the ip address of your ubuntu and your mac, i missed it..repeat please
[00:11] <unlink> cp
[00:11] <workingchair> Hey guys, I'm thinking about migrating over to Ubuntu from XP, but I had a question.  I have my main desktop that I use, and I have an older box that just sits in my closet.  Currently on my XP machine, I have a dual monitor setup.  I am wondering if it would be easy to setup Ubuntu to work on my dual screen box, and then have a "headless" windows box with my older desktop that is currently not in use?
[00:11] <n8tuser> Dante123 -> you can cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf  > newfile  :P
[00:11] <comutamike> hi guys - is this the place to ask about Launchpad Blueprints?
[00:12] <owh> unlink: Looks like it's using the maximum possible. I'd google that for a bit. Something like "ati virtual desktop size"
[00:12] <kroffe> nsadmin: i dont understand this :S
[00:12] <mcarter> Hello
[00:12] <kroffe> nsadmin, what is sd*?
[00:13] <n8tuser> l7 did my suggestion worked?
[00:13] <nsadmin> workingchair dunno what use a headless window box could be,,, but sure, if the hardware is supported by the linux kernel ubuntu installs, it should work fine... otoh, you can also have the ubuntu box headless
[00:13] <owh> unlink: I'll be back in a bit, have to restart X :)
[00:13] <mcarter> I installed upstart on an ubuntu 7.10 machine, and it stopped booting. I started up the machine with a livecd and mounted my harddrive, but I don't know what config files to change to get rid of upstart. Any ideas?
[00:13] <ljkjkj> n8tuser--> icecast2 is music only, isn't it?
[00:13] <Wolfey74> What is the command in terminal to upgrade to 8.10 (I have the alternative install CD)
[00:14] <n8tuser> ljkjkj -> read up on it..i dont know
[00:14] <angie> hello?!
[00:14] <ljkjkj> n8tuser-->seems to be so
[00:14] <angie> how do i build nvidia support into my xconfig?
[00:14] <angie> HELLO
[00:14] <BlueEagle> !caps
[00:15] <BlueEagle> angie: replace "nv" with "nvidia" as the driver.
[00:15] <angie> huh?
[00:15] <angie> in xconfig?
[00:15] <BlueEagle> angie: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:15] <Wolfey74> Anyone have any idea how to upgrade inside Ubuntu 7.04 if I have an 8.10 Alternative Install CD?
[00:15] <angie> wtf
[00:16] <workingchair> nsadmin, I like using Ubuntu mainly.  It's just that I want to still have windows to use things like iTunes to sync my iPhone, etc.
[00:16] <angie> BlueEagle: i dunno if u understand so ill just explain again
[00:16] <angie> BlueEagle: im trying to get gresec kernel
[00:16] <kitche> Wolfey74: you don't you boot the alternative cd and upgrade from that
[00:16] <angie> BlueEagle: so i got the vanilla source and the gresec patch and entered make xconfig
[00:16] <angie> BlueEagle: i built the kernel and got nvidia errors
[00:16] <Wolfey74> Kitche: I can't, it has be define my dev/cdrom/ but I don't know the path
[00:16] <Jeruvy> Wolfey74: you'll need to dist-upgrade to 8.04 then 8.10
[00:16] <angie> BlueEagle: how do i set up nvidia support in my make-xconfig so gresec kernel compiles?
[00:16] <ljkjkj> any other suggestions for hd video streaming (m2ts)?
[00:17] <BlueEagle> angie: Oh, then I did misunderstand.
[00:17] <Wolfey74> Jeruvy: Can't, my dist-upgrade is frigged up, I just want to do a clean install to 8.10 with this CD
[00:17] <angie> i guess so
[00:17] <BlueEagle> angie: What you need to do is to re-install the nVidia driver after booting with your custom kernel iirc.
[00:18] <sudobash> so i just did a apt-get upgrade and it set my resolution back down to 800x600... Why does this happen all the time?
[00:18] <comutamike> i got a question. I submitted a blueprint to launchpad, but I am unsure what to do next.
[00:18] <angie> BlueEagle: or alternatively when i build things like ftpd i get errors
[00:18] <angie> Setting up ftpd (0.17-27) ...
[00:18] <angie> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:18] <angie>  linux-image-2.6.27.10-grsec
[00:18] <angie> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:18] <FloodBot2> angie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <angie> how do i fix that so it uses my ubuntu kernel
[00:19] <angie> FloodBot1: yea thx im done now
[00:19] <Jeruvy> sudobash: my understanding is that the .conf files get updated, so if you backed up your xorg.conf files you should be able to quickly restore them, but you should move the settings from the old file to the new one manually.
[00:20] <Wolfey74> How can I findout what driver my CDRom is using in /dev/?
[00:20] <Jeruvy> !pastebin | angie
[00:20] <sudobash> i shouldnt have to backup before doing a sudo apt-get upgrade but I mean I understand backing it up if you are going to edit it in any way but apt should back it up automatically
[00:20] <Jeruvy> Wolfey74: lspci
[00:20] <sudobash> this is obviously not from today...  xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-200811091020
[00:20] <nsadmin> sudobash: you're right... whether you back up or not first is up to you
[00:21] <angie> cud u help me any othe r way Jeruvy
[00:21] <sudobash> ok and i have backups but why didnt apt create one today?
[00:21] <angie> nsadmin: do u work for nsa?
[00:21] <nsadmin> who's nsa?
[00:21] <angie> k
[00:21] <myte> SUP NIGGAHZ
[00:21] <myte> hi!
[00:21] <Grell> anyone here use audacious?
[00:21] <myte> wtfmyte
[00:21] <CharlieWAH> d00d
[00:22] <Jeruvy> angie: sorry I didn't even glance at that mess above :)
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> \i bought
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> a 2liter bottle of tanqueray
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> the one w/the handle on it
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> 39.95
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> $$ usd
[00:22] <FloodBot2> CharlieWAH: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> oh fuck sorry
[00:22] <CharlieWAH> wrong channel
[00:22] <Grell> how can i add a directory of music to audacious, instead of just files?
[00:22] <sudobash> I just dont understand why when xorg is updated that it can backup and restore xorg.conf
[00:22] <Grell> its odd that there is no option to do this
[00:22] <sudobash> to its original resolution settings at least...
[00:22] <comutamike> ok - not to worry... I'll try somewhere else...
[00:23] <marabout_> n8tuser:  ubuntu machine is 192.168.1.90 mac is 68.209.4.208
[00:23] <workingchair> nsadmin, http://www.nsa.gov/
[00:23] <Exposure> sudobash: are you sure your resolution problems are caused by xorg.conf?
[00:23] <Laurent1> Hi everyone ! I'm runing Intrepid on my IMAC INTEL. Wifi is not starting when I log on to Gnome, but if I run "if up" in a terminal, wireless is working fine. Would anyone have an idea on how I can automate this ?
[00:23] <Jeruvy> sudobash: it's a decent idea you have, however it's not so black and white.  launchpad.net has numerous bugs about various 'upgrading' issues
[00:23] <sudobash> yes the resolution entries i had in there are missing... NVIDIA
[00:23] <sudobash> so i am pretty sure i can go more than 800x600
[00:24] <sudobash> unless it is a driver issue which i doubt
[00:24] <nsadmin> angie: I don't work for NSA... but in USA, you can have a PSA about RSA...
[00:24] <sudobash> but i have seen Nvidia drivers issues before in Ubuntu
[00:24] <sudobash> so it is plausible
[00:24] <Exposure> sudobash: well why not use nvidia-settings or something then, no need for res entries in xorg.conf i think
[00:24] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> unless you have a route in your 68.209.4.208 to get to the 192.168.1.90 address, then your setup will not work,  try to read up on networking tutorial about route to dest and back from dest
[00:24] <sudobash> it doesnt show hardly anything
[00:24] <Exposure> sudobash: it's more plausible that driver is causing the issue than a wrong xorg.conf, imho
[00:25] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> btw, why is your mac in a different subnet?  can you put both in same subnet so you can have the two talk to each other easily?
[00:25] <sudobash> im on 177
[00:25] <unlink> seems to be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/257793
[00:25] <Exposure> sudobash: please make sure driver is loading etc, before blaming apt for not backing up xorg.conf
[00:25] <sudobash> it obviously didn't
[00:25] <pentaside> I have an ATI Radeon x1200 and I'm running 8.10.  Whenever I try to play any sort of "fullscreen" game, the graphics are all over the place.  I tried to find x1200 Linux drivers, couldn't find any.  So, I'm just using whatever came with Intrepid.  Any ideas?
[00:25] <sudobash>  xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-200811091020
[00:25] <sudobash> thats the only backup from apt i have
[00:25] <sudobash> what happened to todays.
[00:26] <Exposure> sudobash: probably it didn't, because it didn't have to
[00:26] <Jeruvy> !ati | pentaside
[00:26] <sudobash> but it overwrote xorg.conf?
[00:26] <n8tuser> Laurent1 -> have the correct entry in your /etc/network/interfaces file,   man  interfaces
[00:26] <sudobash> but it didnt have to?
[00:26] <Wolfey74> Jeruvy: I still don't see my CDROM in it. Any other way?
[00:26] <Exposure> sudobash: did it?
[00:26] <sudobash> yes
[00:26] <Grell> so no one can get audacious to add a directory?
[00:26] <sudobash> and did not backup for some reason
[00:26] <sudobash> any ideas?
[00:26] <Exposure> sudobash: ok, that sucks and you're right then
[00:26] <Laurent1> thank you so much n8tuser, I try that
[00:27] <pentaside> Jeruvy: Thank you.  Let me take a look.
[00:27] <Jeruvy> Wolfey74: oh, that would be a mounted device.  Sorry the command is escaping me atm
[00:27] <Exposure> make hourly backups yourself ;)
[00:27] <homecable> how do i get a dvd to play ?
[00:27] <Grell> thats pretty ridiculous
[00:27] <marabout_> n8tuser: I'm thinking that the different subnet is due to it being set up as a DMZ e.g. xbox's etc connected to the network but I think I can undo this as it might be causing some problems
[00:27] <Grell> that there isnt an option to do that
[00:27] <sudobash> yeah a script but not worth it screw it i will just make a backup on the internet or something
[00:27] <Jeruvy> Wolfey74: you could just try 'mount'
[00:28] <Wolfey74> Jeruvy: /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0       That would mean it is on scd0, correct?
[00:28] <sudobash> Anyone have problems with RTL8187 wifi drivers and want to try a quick fix i came up with?
[00:29] <angie> how do i select the kernel i want to use in ubuntu
[00:29] <yoyit2> does anyone know why my ogmrip keeps freezing half way?
[00:29] <Exposure> sudobash: btw, I just use nvidia-settings to change resolution anyway...
[00:29] <Jeruvy> sudobash: I toss Realtek in the trash, sorry to say.  Get a marvel.
[00:29] <Exposure> modelines in xorg.conf are ancient
[00:29] <pentaside> Jeruvy: This page suggests I use restricted fglrx driver for "ATI Radeon 9500 or newer".  I'm not sure if I fall under that category.  Would it hurt to try?
[00:30] <homecable> how do i get a dvd to play ?
[00:30] <askand> Hi! How would I go about installing latest stable nvidia drivers, 180.22 in Intrepid?
[00:31] <angie> how do i select the kernel i want to use in ubuntu
[00:31] <angie> like gentoo eselect
[00:31] <Jeruvy> pentaside: no, go ahead and do that.
[00:31] <yoyit2> does anyone know why my OGMrip freezes half way everytime?
[00:31] <jrib> angie: choose it from the grub menu when you boot
[00:31] <Diehardy> How do you use your webcam with Ubuntu 8.10?
[00:31] <owh> angie: If you installed it using the package manager tools, then grub will show them.
[00:31] <Jeruvy> !nvidia | askand
[00:32] <owh> Diehardy: To do what?
[00:32] <sudobash> yeah it is pretty bogus..... But the ALFA Networks High Power USB is what I have and it works better than other realteks but sadly i had what I call now RTLHELL the other day when it would say it was connected but couldn't ping, except when you type iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys  which would then connect to the network for a total of 5 seconds.... Typing the same command before using the GUI Wifi Assistant will stabilize the connecti
[00:32] <sudobash> on for some reason
[00:32] <angie> jrib: that prolly wont fix my Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:32] <angie>  linux-image-2.6.27.10-grsec problem
[00:32] <pentaside> Jeruvy: After reading further it states "ATI Radeon 9500 or newer (including the X series)".  That's gotta be me.
[00:32] <\Kira> Diehardy: most work when you plug them in
[00:32] <angie> i want to dump the gresec kernel, owh jrib
[00:32] <Exposure> angie: manually change symlink in /usr/src?
[00:32] <angie> but i dunno how im not using it in my grub
[00:32] <nsadmin> angie: that would be a different problem
[00:32] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> either undo it, or you have to be clever in creating a route to the destination subnets
[00:32] <angie> exodus_ms: ln -s linux-ubuntu-kernel shit?
[00:32] <Diehardy> It's a built in webcam on this Eee Pc
[00:32] <angie> exodus_ms: ln -s linux-ubuntu-kernel shit linux ?
[00:32] <sudobash> stupid Realtek
[00:32] <jrib> angie: pastebin complete commands and output/errors please
[00:32] <Exposure> angie: yes
[00:33] <owh> Diehardy: Yes, what do you want to do with the web cam?
[00:33] <\Kira> Diehardy: Im not familiar with Eee Pc, but it should work
[00:33] <Diehardy> I want to use it on Skype
[00:33] <angie> Exposure: but it is only linux-headers-2.6.27-9-generic ?
[00:33] <angie> isnt that just headers
[00:33] <savvas> angie: ubuntu doesn't have a grsec kernel in the repositories
[00:33] <owh> Diehardy: So, does skype recognise it?
[00:33] <angie> savvas: that smart
[00:33] <Diehardy> and all that good stuff, and take pics and use it for video you know
[00:33] <Exposure> angie: where does it get the grsec kernel from then?
[00:33] <Diehardy> No I it doesnt
[00:33] <marabout_> n8tuser: clever may be an understatement here. I have a Q for you just give me a moment
[00:33] <angie> Exposure: vanilla kernel + gresec patches
[00:34] <angie> ...
[00:34] <gustavo> is there a program to make a dvd from dvx format
[00:34] <angie> what im asking is
[00:34] <angie> do i want to ln -s linux-headers-2.6.27.9-generic linux ?
[00:34] <owh> angie: How did you install that kernel?
[00:34] <nsadmin> no
[00:34] <angie> or do i want to get the linux-sources-ubuntu?
[00:34] <Exposure> angie: nope you want to apt-get the kernel tree
[00:34] <angie> owh: it failed
[00:34] <sudobash> alright trying new xorg.conf
[00:34] <owh> angie: How did you build it?
[00:34] <nsadmin> what exactly do you want to do? compile your own kernel?
[00:34] <angie> Exposure: so i have to get the kernels from scratch?
[00:34] <angie> all i wanna do is revert back to the old kernel with my symlink so i can build packages
[00:35] <owh> angie: What I'm trying to figure out is if you used ubuntu tools or if you used make :)
[00:35] <angie> but i can't find anything but the kernel haeders
[00:35] <Diehardy> well am I going to get help with this Netbook or what?
[00:35] <Exposure> angie: apt-get the kernel-source for the kernel-image you're wanting to compile on
[00:35] <angie> owh: i used make-kpkg
[00:35] <nsadmin> ok, so you have a .deb of the kernel in ..
[00:35] <angie> Exposure: why do i need to get the kernel sources tho
[00:35] <owh> nsadmin: Nah, it failed.
[00:35] <marabout_> n8tuser:  when I run " sudo vim /etc/avahi/services/afpd.service" and I add to the file how do I close the file afterwards and make sure the changes stick?
[00:35] <nsadmin> it failed to do what?
[00:35] <angie> nsadmin: no it failed cuz of some nvidia stuf
[00:35] <Exposure> angie: apparently the stuff you're compiling needs it
[00:36] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> :wq!
[00:36] <mrwes> gustavo: DeVeDe
[00:36] <owh> Diehardy: First of all, we're all volunteers here, so *expecting* help is probably not the best course of action.
[00:36] <yoyit2> can someone help me with my OGMrip freezing problem?
[00:36] <Laurent3> n8tuser : thanks a lot. It works ! you rocks. What so nice to have a wonderfull community :):-[:-[ !
[00:36] <Diehardy> Oh yeah
[00:36] <marabout_> !wq
[00:36] <kantlivelong> hey all
[00:36] <Diehardy> This program eats it.
[00:36] <n8tuser> Laurent3 -> alright, am very happy for you.
[00:36] <owh> unlink: My reboot didn't fix it for me, how are you going with your virtual desktop.
[00:37] <mrwes> !DeVeDe
[00:37] <gustavo> mrwes: where do i get that
[00:37] <marabout_> n8tuser:  ":wq!" ?  i missed something...
[00:37] <Diehardy> Owh: I need my webcam so I can make a video of myself flipping you off.
[00:37] <mrwes> gustavo: it's in the repositories...synaptic manager
[00:37] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> :wq!              <-- to write and quit in vim
[00:37] <gustavo> cool  thanks
[00:37] <owh> Diehardy: I was about to help you, but that just stopped right there. Have a nice day.
[00:38] <mrwes> hrmm
[00:38] <Diehardy> BS
[00:38] <pentaside> Jeruvy: I need to restart.  Be right back.
[00:38] <jrib> Diehardy: if you wish to participate in this channel, please be respectful of others
[00:38] <Diehardy> Alright jrib
[00:39] <qqx> whats that command hciscan usb ?
[00:39] <Diehardy> so uh, how do I manage my webcam and get Skype to recognize it?
[00:39] <marabout_> n8tuser:  dont think I am executing the commands correctly as the file is still open...
[00:39] <nsadmin> Diehardy: with volunteers, the trick is to get them to want to help you...
[00:39] <angie> i dun get it
[00:39] <qqx> does anyone know what im talking about
[00:39] <owh> angie: I'm trying to get my head around what you have and what you want and how you got there.
[00:39] <angie> i ran a kernel prior to grsec install
[00:40] <Exposure> qqx: you mean hcitool scan?
[00:40] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> press escape at once then issue   :wq!
[00:40] <angie> but i cant revert back to it cuz i made a symlink to my grsec kern
[00:40] <qqx> Exposure, yup
[00:40] <Diehardy> nsadmin: alright, then help me out, buddy.
[00:40] <qqx> k thnx
[00:40] <nsadmin> angie: where is the kernel image located?
[00:40] <Jeruvy> angie: rm {symlink}
[00:40] <Exposure> qqx: for cases like that, type hci<tab> ;)
[00:41] <piekarczyk> ;p
[00:41] <marabout_> n8tuser:  thnx
[00:41] <owh> angie: So far I think you downloaded kernel sources from somewhere, applied the patches, then tried to build it with make-kpkg, now you want to revert to ubuntu-kernel sources?
[00:41] <angie> Jeruvy: sec
[00:41] <Diehardy> Alright guys, we got off on the wrong foot here.
[00:41] <angie> owh: yea
[00:41] <Guest22416> -h
[00:42] <owh> angie: I don't have spare disk space lying around to test this, but I suspect that dpkg-reconfigure {ubuntu-kernel-source-name} should work.
[00:42] <Rikkimaru> Slightly offtopic, but how do I tell if a power supply is faulty?  (if someone knows a better channel, please let me know)
[00:42] <Diehardy> ...
[00:42] <angie> Jeruvy: i removed the symlink that was a dumb idea
[00:43] <shadow98> what is the best file system to use for ubuntu ext3?
[00:43] <askand> Hi, can someone help me with my nvidiadrivers... from dmesg:  API mismatch: the client has the version 180.22, but this kernel module has the version 177.82.
[00:43] <savvas> angie: are you trying the grsecurity patch? they have prepared packages in their own repository: http://kernelsec.cr0.org/
[00:43] <marabout_> n8tuser:  that was it! ubuntu machine is now visible on the network. whew- thanks a bunch n8tuser !!
[00:43] <Exposure> angie: not really, you need to remove the existing link to be able to make a new one
[00:43] <owh> shadow98: Is there a comma in that sentence?
[00:43] <shadow98> yeah
[00:43] <angie> whats the new one meant to be called?
[00:43] <sudobash> Well you might have been right about the drivers being the problem... I reverted to 173 and everything is working again... but apt still overwrote my xorg also...
[00:43] <n8tuser> marabout_ -> am glad, am of assistance today
[00:43] <owh> shadow98: Well the default is ext3, but each user has different requirements.
[00:43] <Exposure> angie: it's always called 'linux' and it points the the kernel sources dir you want to use
[00:44] <owh> Yup
[00:44] <angie> if i install a package in apt it says "Setting up linux-image-2.6.27.10-grsec (ck2) ..."
[00:44] <shadow98> owh: so in your opinion what is the best...
[00:44] <owh> Diehardy: Have you settled down?
[00:44] <Diehardy> I really need help with this Eee PC 701.
[00:45] <n8tuser> sudobash -> so hopefully you learned to save a copy of your working xorg.conf  in case you do another update
[00:45] <angie> gonna try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.27-9-generic
[00:45] <sudobash> yeah
[00:45] <angie> could that work Exposure
[00:45] <owh> shadow98: That's an unanswerable question. I have servers, virtual machines and workstations, each with different requirements.
[00:45] <Diehardy> owh: Yes I have, dammit.
[00:45] <sudobash> or if you get the stability you want... dont upgrade?
[00:45] <Exposure> angie: don't know, I prefer to do things manually and am not that much into inner workings of apt
[00:45] <shadow98> for a desktop workstation...what is the best
[00:45] <owh> angie: Uh, that's the image, but not the source.
[00:45] <angie> owh: well i dun think i have the src
[00:45] <n8tuser> ignore Diehardy
[00:46] <angie> sudo apt-get insatll kernel-source?
[00:46] <Diehardy> No... why?
[00:46] <owh> shadow98: I'm trying to tell you, the "best" is a matter of choice. I use EXT3 on my workstation.
[00:46] <shadow98> ok..
[00:46] <sudobash> i guess i will never learn my lesson about upgrades
[00:46] <UbuntuNewbie> Hey everyone - I'm really new to Ubuntu and I would like to know if its possible to have Windows on my operating system (on the c drive) and Ubuntu on the other drive (d drive that is a partition created from the c drive)
[00:46] <owh> angie: Uh, I don't think so. One mo.
[00:46] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> yes it is possible, there are several ways
[00:47] <gustavo> mrwes: sorry a program from avi to regular dvd
[00:47] <owh> angie: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:47] <angie> 81.0
[00:47] <angie> 8.10
[00:47] <UbuntuNewbie> I have the Ubuntu 7.10
[00:47] <Diehardy> angie: me too
[00:47] <UbuntuNewbie> I tried it but I couldn't get to do it
[00:47] <angie> Diehardy: thats great
[00:47] <knapr> If I use Telnet on windows can I talk to a Ubuntu-computer then? and read email? is telnet a protocol and both computers havee defined stuff that telnet can do from another computer?
[00:47] <Exposure> just do an apt-cache search kernel-sources, the right one will pop up...
[00:47] <FM2n> man, someone kill me now
[00:47] <owh> angie: aptitude install linux-source will install the "current" linux source.
[00:47] <owh> Exposure: Ot
[00:47] <DaIRC44376> o/ question, is there somthing in ubuntu that default block prots? my server wont take connections from the outside
[00:48] <n8tuser> knapr -> use  ssh instead of the insecure telnet,  putty is the client on windows to do ssh
[00:48] <owh> Exposure: Sorry, keyboard fart. It's called linux-source now :)
[00:48] <Exposure> ok
[00:48] <knapr> n8tuser: im asking out of curiosity
[00:48] <owh> DaIRC44376: Not really. Connected via a firewall?
[00:48] <angie> owh: but why do i need to the kernel soruces, i had this kernel installed its what is in my uname even
[00:48] <angie> Linux goaway 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:48] <angie> .. so
[00:48] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I have Ubuntu 7.10 and I tried using its partition thing to install it onto the D drive but it won't let me
[00:48] <Seiver`Damross> there
[00:48] <n8tuser> knapr -> i made suggestions for safer connectivity
[00:48] <owh> angie: Huh?
[00:49] <Seiver`Damross> no DMZed
[00:49] <owh> angie: Say that again slowly, small words :)
[00:49] <gustavo>  is there a program to burn a dvd  from avi format
[00:49] <n8tuser> !install | UbuntuNewbie
[00:49] <Diehardy> does anyone own a Eee PC?
[00:49] <owh> gustavo: IIRC, Brasero will do that. But I may be wrong.
[00:49] <angie> owh: i had the 2.6.27.10 kernel installed already before i got grsec, but i tried to install grsec and now when i install packages it gives me a grsec error. but when i reboot and uname -a im using the ubuntu kernel
[00:49] <knapr> If I use Telnet on windows can I talk to a Ubuntu-computer then? and read email? is telnet a protocol and both computers havee defined stuff that telnet can do from another computer? im asking out of curiosity, would it be possible?
[00:49] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Thanks - I'm checking out the site now.
[00:50] <angie> so i think i alerady have the ubuntu kernel, owh
[00:50] <Seiver`Damross> the box is DMZed on my router
[00:50] <angie> owh: isnt there a way to just _run_ my previous kernel without downloading 50 mb all over or sth
[00:50] <owh> angie: Hold on, the kernel and the source are two separate and different things.
[00:50] <angie> k
[00:50] <gustavo> owh: i try that but didn't play in my dvd
[00:50] <owh> angie: The kernel you are running is a compiled thing. It's compiled from source.
[00:50] <n8tuser> knapr -> it would be possible, but telnet server is not recommended to be run on ubuntu
[00:50] <owh> angie: You asked about wanting to compile packages and needing the kernel source to do that.
[00:51] <owh> angie: What are you really trying to do :)
[00:51] <angie> owh: i want to install ftpd.
[00:51] <angie> its giving me errors about linux-grsec
[00:51] <pentaside> Jeruvy: It says to perform two specific commands.  The first one is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`.  Which works fine...
[00:51] <owh> angie: aptitude install ftpd
[00:51] <nsadmin> telnet server is not recommended period
[00:51] <jrib> angie: did you ever do what I asked?
[00:51] <angie> owh: thats what i did already
[00:51] <angie> jrib: i didnt see what u asked
[00:51] <owh> jrib: What did you suggest?
[00:51] <jrib> angie: pastebin complete commands and output/errors please
[00:51] <pentaside> Jeruvy: The second command is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`, and gives me this message sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`.
[00:52] <owh> That's a good call jrib, angie
[00:52] <pentaside> Jeruvy: I tried to follow the directories and all the folders are there, just not the file.
[00:52] <angie> hold on
[00:52] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes Diehardy
[00:53] <Exposure> the problem is his linux symlink is pointing to the wrong kernel sources, no biggie
[00:53] <owh> angie: Perhaps there is a little mis-understanding underlying this whole discussion. Ubuntu provides two ways of installing stuff. Using compiled packages, something which the vast majority of people use, but you can also get the source for each package and compile that - most won't need or want to.
[00:53] <aprilhare> hello
[00:53] <angie> http://rafb.net/p/fHHoL892.html
[00:53] <angie> owh
[00:53] <angie> jrib
[00:54] <obvio171> i installed git from source, but now apt-get wants to remove the dependencies i built through build-dep (since it doesn't see anyone else using them). is there a way i can mark the package git-core as though it were present?
[00:54] <jrib> angie: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.27.10-grsec
[00:54] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm using 8.10 with a dell studio 15.  the keyboard keys get stuck when i adjust my monitor brigthness using the fn+up/down keys.  to get them unstuck, i need to go to the console via ctrl+alt+f1 and back again to x screen.  any idea if there's anyway i can fix this?
[00:55] <angie> jrib: http://rafb.net/p/iGlwvC43.html
[00:55] <jrib> angie: you built this yourself?
[00:55] <owh> jrib: Any reason you can think of that angie cannot just purge vmlinuz-2.6.27.10-grsec ?
[00:55] <angie> jrib: yea
[00:55] <angie> i just wanna use my former kern
[00:55] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I checked them but it didn't make much sense to me... when I used the partition I saw options like /swamp and want to get information about it.
[00:55] <angie> why is that so hard?
[00:55] <nsadmin> angie: looks like update-grub found the grsec kernel
[00:56] <angie> k
[00:56] <owh> Yeah, but the package seems broken.
[00:56] <pentaside> Jeruvy: Ok.  Correction.  Looking at my Hardware Drivers window, I already have fglrx activated.  Perhaps I need to use something else.
[00:56] <jrib> owh: nope.  angie: see if dpkg complains if you try to purge it
[00:56] <Seiver`Damross> o/ question, is there somthing in ubuntu that default block prots? my server wont take connections from the outside. the box is DMZed and the ports are fowared to the box.
[00:56] <savvas> jrib: you can't purge a kernel in use
[00:56] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I also tried this thing where I could have run it inside windows but I get an error message trying to do that
[00:56] <savvas> at least I don't think so
[00:57] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> reading that link take a bit more time than what you just spent, re-read please,  let it absorb okay?
[00:57] <angie> E: Couldn't find package vmlinuz-2.6.27.10-grsec
[00:57] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> okay - I'll read it thorougly this time
[00:57] <owh> savvas: It's not in use.
[00:57] <nsadmin> angie: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst like this...
[00:57] <owh> savvas: AFAIK that is :)
[00:57] <owh> nsadmin: No, not yet!
[00:57] <jrib> angie: what kernel is in use now?
[00:57] <savvas> angie: can you post the out put of: uname -a
[00:57] <owh> That first :)
[00:58] <angie> Linux goaway 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:58] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> describe your network layout, what devices is connected to which?  a picture is worth a thousand words
[00:58] <jrib> angie: the package name should be  linux-image-2.6.27.10-grsec
[00:58] <owh> angie: That's the current ibex kernel that's live. All good.
[00:58] <nsadmin> angie: what we're going to do is in two parts (with a reboot inbetween)
[00:58] <owh> s/ibex/intrepid/
[00:59] <himbamcky> Hi, I'm having a problem with alsa. Audacious froze and now I have a constant loopback on one second of song. I restarted alsa and that didn't help any. I stopped alsa for a bit the sound stopped and when I restarted alsa it came back, plus it won't play any other audio once restarted.
[00:59] <angie> well im trying to purge the ekrnel
[00:59] <nsadmin> first part, have grub run savedefault
[00:59] <angie> could we do this one thing at a time plz?
[00:59] <nsadmin> second part, arrange to boot the saved
[00:59] <angie> cuz its like the purge is working
[00:59] <owh> nsadmin: Any reason you're going to edit grub, the package manager needs to remove the package.
[00:59] <angie> "a new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified"
[00:59] <angie> what am i to do
[00:59] <owh> angie: Show us the output of the purge.
[00:59] <angie> a few options
[01:00] <owh> angie: One will be a diff.
[01:00] <angie> owh: i cant cuz its opened a package configuration for menu.lst
[01:00] <angie> install the package maintainers version?
[01:00] <angie> keep the local version currentyl installed?
[01:00] <quinten> hey. how can i tell apt to add a i386 source, when i am running amd64? i figured out how to install the proper 32 bit libraries, but i can't figure out how to download the package and i only have an deb http:// line
[01:00] <jrib> angie: save a copy of the old one somewhere first
[01:00] <angie> what ?
[01:00] <owh> angie: Can you select the "show differences" option?
[01:00] <jrib> quinten: you don't.  Why do you want to?
[01:01] <Seiver`Damross> N8tuser> there 7 PC on my network the PC in question in connection through a dumb swich to the router. the PC in question has prot 80 open fworded and working but when i try to open and foward another prot it wont let anything into that prot
[01:01] <quinten> jrib: a package that doesn't have proper source files, only a binary deb source
[01:01] <quinten> jrib: boxee, to be precise
[01:01] <jrib> quinten: be more specific...
[01:02] <quinten> jrib: all i really need to do is download the package, but i can't remember how to do so without using apt
[01:02] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> what is prot? can you be more clearer please?  what is the ip address of the subject pc?
[01:02] <angie> justa a sec
[01:02] <jrib> quinten: installing debs from the wrong architecture isn't really a great idea
[01:02] <angie> jrib:
[01:02] <angie> http://rafb.net/p/cmHcGG94.html
[01:03] <owh> quinten: It's in fact a *really* bad idea.
[01:03] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> also the remaining 6 pc's how are they connected to the router?
[01:03] <pentaside> Ok so I'm having issues with my Radeon x1200 playing any fullscreen games.  I'm currently using fglrx.  Would it be beneficial to try the OpenSource driver?
[01:03] <owh> angie: That's all good.
[01:03] <jrib> angie: should be ok.  See if you can install the ftp server now
[01:03] <angie> oh?
[01:03] <angie> ok
[01:03] <owh> angie: Choose the "Package Managers" version.
[01:03] <owh> angie: In the dialog box.
[01:03] <quinten> jrib: i'm aware of the risks, and this is not a core library, it's standalone. also, i've seen reports of other people doing it successfully with this particular package. 32 bit programs run fine on amd64 kernels...
[01:04] <gustavo> can i convert in avi format to iso image
[01:04] <angie> k
[01:04]  * owh chants Standardise, standardise.
[01:04] <savvas> gustavo: you mean dvd?
[01:04] <gustavo> yea
[01:04] <phoe6> If I have to see the list of files installed by a package, what command should I use?
[01:04] <jrib> quinten: man dpkg will tell you how to force architecture
[01:04] <Seiver`Damross> 3 are on the swich and 4 are on the router itself
[01:04] <owh> phoe6: dpkg -L
[01:05] <quinten> anyway, i just need to recall how to to drill down to the right directory. virtual directory listing is turned off, so i can't just stumble on it
[01:05] <n8tuser> !who | Seiver`Damross
[01:05] <gustavo> savvas: yes
[01:05] <phoe6> owh: I know the executable name 'r2w' in this case, don't know package name.. how should I proceee?
[01:05] <quinten> i know how to install it once i download it, just not recalling how to download a deb package just given the line for sources.list, not a direct url to the package
[01:05] <savvas> gustavo: I think you can with Applications > Sound & Video > Brasero > Video project
[01:05] <nsadmin> how do you get update-grub to write "savedefault" after every kernel stanza?
[01:05] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> what is prot? can you be more clearer please?  what is the ip address of the subject pc?
[01:05] <Chousuke> phoe6: search packages.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> 3 are on the swich and 4 are on the router itself
[01:05] <gustavo> ok all try that
[01:06] <phoe6> Chousuke: that's a hard way. Even synaptics will do.
[01:06] <mas2> does anyone know how to get identified in xChat? Some channels on this network says I need to be it in order to join them.
[01:06] <phoe6> from CLI, I mean.
[01:06] <Seiver`Damross> !tab
[01:06] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> what is prot? can you be more clearer please?  what is the ip address of the subject pc?
[01:06] <owh> phoe6 dpkg -S filename
[01:07] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> it is 65.116.243.68 and the port is 5900
[01:07] <owh> phoe6: That will show you the package name :)
[01:07] <mas2> could anyone recomand a file manager app like Norton Commander (win) for ubuntu
[01:07] <eraldo> I am having troubles with audacious... it won't play a sound... the other media players still work though
[01:07] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> port 5900 for what services?  you have forwarded this port in the router?
[01:08] <Dr_willis> mas2,  'mc' -> midnight commander.. Just get it.. :) theres also 'gentoo' and 'worker' and some others
[01:08] <trip_> !bestvirtualmachineonubuntu
[01:08] <jrib> mas2: gnome-commander or mc ?
[01:08] <trip_> lol
[01:08] <owh> trip_: kvm is supported. xen support is improving.
[01:08] <phoe6> yah owh, I got two files listed from dpkg -S r2w. They were same as whereis r2w.
[01:08] <eraldo> I thought it might be the output plugin... but it is set to alsa which should be okay
[01:08] <savvas> mas2: gnome commander (Applications > Add/Remove)
[01:08] <jrib> eraldo: check you are using pulseaudio
[01:08] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> the current app in VNC and yes the prot has been fowared on the router
[01:08] <owh> phoe6: You'll also see the package name before the colon.
[01:08] <mas2> Dr_willis, jrib, savvas: thanks for the tips! Gonna try out gnome commander and mc!
[01:09]  * phoe6 opening synaptic package manager to see if that gives more information than CLI queries.
[01:09] <trip_> owh virtualbox any good?
[01:09] <owh> phoe6: Same backend :)
[01:09] <savvas> phoe6: what are you looking for?
[01:09] <owh> trip_: I wasn't giving an opinion, just advise on what is supported :)
[01:09] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> what is the router you are using? and what command you used to port forward?
[01:09] <trip_> owh what do u use?
[01:10] <mas2> what is the difference between synaptic and add remove application. Do they use the same sources?
[01:10] <eraldo> jrib: if I set it to pulseaudio... the song starts but no tone (as if it were mute)
[01:10] <kroffe> help needed: i cant access my mounted disks
[01:10] <phoe6> owh: it (dpkg - S) gave the package name as r2w and if I use -L, it asks me to install the package.
[01:10] <phoe6> funny,
[01:10] <mas2> jrib: I will try them both out and see which one is more like norton commander
[01:10] <owh> trip_: When vmware was supported, I used that, now I'm using kvm and qemu
[01:10] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> once more, it is not prot !!! okay?
[01:10] <eraldo> jrib: with alsa ...the song does not even start.
[01:10] <savvas> phoe6: sudo apt-get install rest2web
[01:10] <owh> phoe6: What is it that you want to know now that you know which package it is?
[01:10] <nameless`> hi
[01:10] <savvas> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=r2w&mode=filename&suite=intrepid&arch=any
[01:10] <gustavo> savvas: i only have audio project video project i don't have that
[01:10] <nameless`> i would like to add a folder and launcher into the gnome menu
[01:11] <nameless`> how can i do that ?
[01:11] <savvas> gustavo: what Ubuntu are you using? Hardy heron 8.04?
[01:11] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> not sure the model but it is a old linksys 4 port wired router
[01:11] <owh> nameless`: System -> Preferences -> Menu
[01:11] <Izinucs> n8tuser: he's probably just typing fast with a little lickdexia :)
[01:11] <gustavo> hardy
[01:11] <eraldo> jrgp: I tried resetting the audacious settings by removing them in my home but still no sound
[01:11] <marabout_> is there a suggestion for a good html editor to use with Ubuntu (hardy)?
[01:11] <craigbass1976> Isn't there a way to zip a directory up and have the links there stay links? zip -r what?
[01:11] <nameless`> owh, i don't have that
[01:11] <savvas> gustavo: upgrade to Ubuntu intrepid 8.10, it has better support for avi->dvd conversion :)
[01:11] <Seiver`Damross> Izinucs> no my spelling just sucks
[01:11] <kroffe> why cant i get access to my mounted hdd?
[01:12] <phoe6> savvas: I have installed the rest2web. Actually I looking for the testsite and document that comes along with it and I searching where it might have been installed.
[01:12] <savvas> gustavo: or try and use k3b (Applications > Add/Remove)
[01:12] <owh> nameless`: Sorry, System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[01:12] <jrib> eraldo: you need pulseaudio.  Check your volume.  Check if other music apps work right at this moment
[01:12] <kitche> craigbass1976: zip doesn't understand links have to use tar if you want links to be perserved
[01:12] <nameless`> owh, stop kidding
[01:12] <Izinucs> Seiver`Damross: understand.. I have the same issue coupled with fast and fat fingers.
[01:12] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> are you sure you have it port forwarded?  and btw, if you dont like to take the efforts to correct you spelling, i can mis-interpret you and give you garbage answers
[01:12] <bbbs> i was going to use dban to erase my hard drive. but can i just pop in the ubuntu cd and it will format it then install
[01:12] <owh> nameless`: I'm not.
[01:12] <nameless`> owh, it doesn't appear
[01:12] <craigbass1976> kitche, bah!  thanks though
[01:12] <gustavo> ok if i want to upgrade how do i do that
[01:12] <phoe6> I could look into /usr/local/share/* location, but I wanted to do it in dpkg style, if you say in rpm terminology rpm -qpl <package_name>
[01:12] <owh> nameless`: Which version of Ubuntu?
[01:12] <nameless`> owh, it's archlinux
[01:12] <nameless`> owh, but it's gnome
[01:13] <eraldo> jrib: volume works... other players work ... audacious does not
[01:13] <bastid_raZor> !upgrade > gustavo
[01:13] <owh> nameless`: Uh, this is Ubuntu around here.
[01:13] <nameless`> owh, yes but it's not ubuntu or archlinux related
[01:13] <nameless`> owh, it's gnome-related
[01:13] <savvas> phoe6: do you mean the documentation? sudo apt-get install rest2web-doc
[01:13] <Izinucs> nameless`: then check out the gnome channel
[01:13] <bastid_raZor> nameless`; they have a #gnome channel
[01:13] <owh> nameless`: Well, yes it is. GNOME gets heavily reconfigured within Ubuntu.
[01:13] <nameless`> ok thx
[01:13] <savvas> phoe6: here's the list of files: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/rest2web/filelist http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/rest2web-doc/filelist
[01:13]  * owh waves bye to all and sundry.
[01:14] <phoe6> Oh, there is a separate package, I see. !
[01:14] <gustavo> savvas: ok
[01:14] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> yes i have had sevral friends help me with this the router should be set right
[01:14] <simoo_> could someone pastebin their  /usr/share/applications/screensavers/personal-slideshow.desktop for me? :)
[01:14] <phoe6> dpkg - L rest2web helped!
[01:14] <tripchronic> is there an article that will help me configure KVM and QEMU?
[01:14] <savvas> ok :)
[01:14] <tripchronic> !kvm
[01:14] <phoe6> and dpkg -S r2w. did not list the package name as rest2web. savvas: you know any reason why>
[01:14] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> are you running other services on that DMZ'ed pc?   is the server running on that port?
[01:14] <kroffe> can i get some help
[01:15] <kroffe> i haved asked 3 times
[01:15] <jrib> !helpme| kroffe
[01:15] <tripchronic> kroffe what does the error msg say
[01:15] <mas2> does anyone know a app for ubunu where I can add .srt/.sub files to an .avi not so it's get hard wired into but so I can choose in a media player to use that sub. I had a app for windows that could add several subs and then on my ps3 I could choose which sub I wanted (added different languages). I did a quick search but all the sub programs was that they added the sub hard wired.
[01:15] <simoo_> I would be really grateful if someone could pastebin their /usr/share/applications/screensavers/personal-slideshow.desktop for me? :)
[01:15] <savvas> phoe6: dpkg -S looks for packages that are installed. If they're not installed, you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com to do your search
[01:15] <kelvin_> can anyone help me with this problem i cant get sanaptic to work it keeps poping up with a message to run dpkg and im a newbie to linux so not to shure what its asking me to do
[01:16] <jrib> eraldo: are you playing an mp3 or something else?
[01:16] <phoe6> I had it installed. savvas.
[01:16] <jrib> kelvin_: pastebin the actual error
[01:16] <kelvin_> ko hang on will try
[01:16] <kroffe> tripchronic, i cant get access to my harddrives i mounted
[01:16] <Izinucs> Seiver`Damross: as I remember from the past, vnc use to use port 5700.. I know it's not 5900 however have you gone to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop and set anything there?
[01:16] <savvas> no idea phoe6, try it again: dpkg -S r2w
[01:16] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> still not making any sense to me - isn't there an Ubuntu command line equivalent to Ms-Dos where I can just type a command like "install d:" so that Ubuntu will just install everything on the specific hard drive that I want it on. I don't want to loose windows.
[01:16] <eraldo> jrib: I closed the other players... now it works again
[01:16] <phoe6> btw, I am learning to use dpkg more than always hoping to gui based synaptics. it searches through ubuntu package repository.
[01:16] <eraldo> jrib: yes mp3
[01:16] <bastid_raZor> mas2; mkv file creator but i don't think you can add soft subs to an avi? i don't really know though.
[01:16] <Izinucs> Seiver`Damross: I know it IS now 5900 .. sorry
[01:16] <jrib> eraldo: one of the other players must not be using pulse
[01:17] <kroffe> tripchronic,: it dont say anything i cant past a file in it
[01:17] <eraldo> jrib: okay... thanks
[01:17] <kroffe> tripchronic,: not even mkdir in it
[01:17] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> one does not install ubuntu directly from windows.  use the livecd or alternatecd to boot and then install ubuntu
[01:17] <WebcamWonder> Guys, quick question. Is there anything tricky to installing nVidia drivers from their website? Do I have to go through some painful procedure as compared to Envy?
[01:17] <kelvin_> the error message its throwing at me is .........    E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:17] <kroffe> tripchronic,: i think its the rights that is vrong
[01:17] <jrib> WebcamWonder: use System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[01:17] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: it might be easier than you think.. what card do you have.
[01:18] <jrib> kelvin_: so open a terminal and run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:18] <mas2> bastid_raZor: I know it's possible I use an app called aviaddxsub that does it, but it's an windows application. Im looking for a similiar app for ubuntu.
[01:18] <flashkidd> someone knows how to configure k3b?
[01:18] <WebcamWonder> jrib: The drivers ubuntu has, has a very bad bug for my video card
[01:18] <kelvin_> ok hang on
[01:18] <jrib> WebcamWonder: link to bug report?
[01:18] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: Geforce Go 6150
[01:18] <Izinucs> flashkidd: shouldn't need to
[01:18] <savvas> WebcamWonder: if it works, don't touch it. If it doesn't work, try install the envyng tool
[01:18] <phoe6> savvas: Sorry, dpkg -S gives the package name. :) Sorry for that and thank you for your help.
[01:18] <WebcamWonder> jrib: I don't know, it is fixed in newer versions by Envy
[01:18] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> also select manual partitioning to select the partition to install it on
[01:18] <michele6286> how do i use ipod with ubuntu
[01:18] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: If 2 drivers come up in the Hardware manager use the 173 driver for that card. It works better.
[01:19] <jrib> !ipod | michele6286
[01:19] <zigzags> has anyone ever used VirtualBox with a floppy image containing SATA ICH8 AHCI drivers to install windows XP on a laptop that has a SATA drive??  im havng some trouble and am at a dead end
[01:19] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: Nope. Only 1 comes up. And the bug is, that if my screen goes into energy savings, it never comes back
[01:19] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I have the LiveCD and the only option that works with me is the one that removes everything from Windows and installs it on the C drive
[01:19] <flashkidd> my k3b dont find the dvd writer
[01:19] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: which version of the driver are you currently using?
[01:19] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: 177 via Envy
[01:19] <zigzags> my problem is that the file i mount as the floppy drive has only the ICH 7 driver, and I need ICH 8, as far as i know at least
[01:19] <karlp> haha man ppmtojpeg brings up a man page for pnmtojpeg
[01:19] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I tried the manual things and got an error message
[01:19] <kelvin_> ok done that
[01:19] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> what? there should be a manual or even a guided install yes?
[01:19] <karlp> anyone else get this?
[01:20] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: envy-ng from the repos?
[01:20] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Yes
[01:20] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: Yeah
[01:20] <UbuntuNewbie> I choose manual
[01:20] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I choose manual
[01:20] <test> n8tuser> im back
[01:20] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: will it allow you to uninstall the driver?
[01:20] <test> ..
[01:20] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> okay, then what happen next?
[01:20] <mcarter> on 7.10 I installed upstart which seems to have removed my old startup stuff (init); how do I reinstall init?
[01:20] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: And this also has another really bad bug. I want to see whether it has been fixed in the latest versions or not
[01:20] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: Yup
[01:20] <UbuntuNewbie> I saw a list of stuff
[01:20] <test> damn ghost
[01:20] <n8tuser> test who are you?
[01:20] <jrib> !nvidia > WebcamWonder
[01:21] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> there's one thing that has some code with 1 that is suppose to be the C drive (from some disk parition thing
[01:21] <test> n8tuser>seiver
[01:21] <kelvin_> ok jrib i have done that
[01:21] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> and then there's the other one with a 5 that's suppose to be a D
[01:21] <tripchronic> !qemu
[01:21] <jrib> kelvin_: did you get any output with errors?
[01:21] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I'm running the setup again so that I can give you the exact error messsage
[01:21] <iLogic> can anyone help me manage my wireless network via /etc/network/interfaces instead of network manager?
[01:21] <kelvin_> what nono
[01:21] <kelvin_> no
[01:21] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: I would suggest uninstalling the driver and envy-ng then install the 173 driver from Synaptic.. that should do it.. the 6 series cards were really stable.  However, if you must try the drivers direct from nvidia.. pause for a breath
[01:21] <jrib> kelvin_: so synaptic works now?
[01:21] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> okay, so select the one with an empty partition or unused
[01:21] <kelvin_> hang on
[01:21] <hikenboot> does anyone know a way to forward a group of messages to an email address without opening each one individually in evolution the forward is greyed out except as an attachment
[01:21] <nsadmin> iLogic: first, look at the file
[01:22] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> there is nothing else running no that prot, it works fine from inside my network, this issue holds true for other apps aswell. they work fine from a 19.168.*.* addy but refuse to work from the outside no mater how my router seems to be set
[01:22] <mcarter> so the simple question is: what package gives me /sbin/init ?
[01:22] <nsadmin> there's a reference doc, man 5 interfaces
[01:22] <MythbuntuGuest60> hey, looking for advice on an agp video card for tv out with mythtv/mythbuntu.. basically want to purchase one - any suggestions? (nvidia fx5200? 440mx? ...)
[01:22] <tripchronic> hello room, where the fuck is KVM in my package list?
[01:22] <_Cid> you tried apt-cache search init?
[01:22] <nsadmin> mcarter: sysvinit?
[01:22] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I have to restart the computer to get everything set up - give me 10 minutes for the most... I'll be back shortly and let you know what's going on.
[01:22] <tripchronic> i found qemu no problem
[01:22] <david1234> i have a question i just installed bind9 on my server and now i need to write the config file i am having some trouble doing that
[01:22] <jrib> mcarter: upstart?
[01:22] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: I am on Hardy, and it only lets me install 177, not 173
[01:22] <david1234> can someone help me
[01:23] <iLogic> nsadmin: already did.. despite setting it right, dhcp won't connect.. it keeps looking on 255.255.255.255 and never finds a connection..
[01:23] <mcarter> jrib, upstart provides /sbin/init ?
[01:23] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: then you can download the latest beta 180.xx.. and unpack it. then ctrl+alt+F2 and login.. now sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. install new driver.. then sudo reboot now..
[01:23] <mcarter> nsadmin, thanks
[01:23] <nsadmin> oh, ok... so are you using ifup and ifdown?
[01:23] <iLogic> yeah
[01:23] <_Cid> david1234:  you got an example to go by? - makes life easier
[01:23] <hikenboot> david1234 why dont you use webmin the web based gui it will make it easier for you
[01:23] <nsadmin> has it ever connected?
[01:23] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: And if I then do a kernel upgrade? The drivers would break, but would they break the entire system, or would my Hardy fallback to the opensource drivers?
[01:23] <kelvin_> its still the same and its telling me .......cach open failed please report
[01:23] <david1234> hikenboot i have webmin already installed lol
[01:24] <n8tuser> iLogic -> post in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:24] <hikenboot> oh ok
[01:24] <iLogic> nsadmin: it connects just fine through network manager
[01:24] <jrib> mcarter: yes...
[01:24] <david1234> hikenboot: i need to point boscoslife.com to a user name on my server like user name boscoslife= boscoslife.com so i can edit the index.html file
[01:24] <zigzags> ﻿ has anyone ever used VirtualBox with a floppy image containing SATA ICH8 AHCI drivers to install windows XP on a laptop that has a SATA drive??  im havng some trouble and am at a dead end
[01:24] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: one thing I need to mention when installing.. look in synaptic for any nvidia references that are installed and uninstall first.. also you can install dkms from synaptic that might take care of kernel upgrades.
[01:24] <nsadmin> oh ok, so yes, and that rules out hardware, cables, router, router's connection to internet
[01:24] <david1234> hikenboot: i dont know what i need to do to do that but i need thta done
[01:25] <jrib> mcarter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=init&mode=exactfilename&suite=intrepid&arch=any
[01:25] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: That is weird, I already have it installed. Does it rebuild the nVidia driver everytime I get a kernel upgrade?
[01:25] <zigzags> ﻿ has anyone ever used VirtualBox with a floppy image containing SATA ICH8 AHCI drivers to install windows XP on a laptop that has a SATA drive??  im havng some trouble because the windows installer is only seeing ICH7 drivers, and im SURE i need ICH8. ICH7 doesnt work anyway.
[01:25] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: but at this point in Hardy you probably won't have any more kernel upgrades.. (as I smack my self because I know right after saying it, it'll happen)
[01:25] <david1234> hikenboot: are you ther
[01:25] <iLogic> nsadmin: but the thing is.. I always try to leave the computer up at night for downloads, and when I check it the next day, the connection has dropped.. so I figured I could use a script to ping the router and restart networking if the response is null... but I can't operate through /etc/init.d/networking if my interface isn't listed on /etc/network/interfaces
[01:25] <david1234> e
[01:25] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: There is one waiting in my upgrade list right now, .23 :)
[01:25] <hikenboot> david1234 i am no expert in bind9 sorry I got it working once with dynamic dhcp after about 2 weeks of messing with it
[01:25] <kelvin_> is there a way of resetting my settings  for my instalation back to default in  dpkg
[01:26] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: yep.. one of the nice things we got from Dell from what I understand
[01:26] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser>did i miss your last post for me?
[01:26] <nsadmin> just to make sure of that... when you were using networkmanager, the same cable went from that computer to (where is the other end?)
[01:26] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> i missed what you posted
[01:26] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: do the upgrade first..
[01:26] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> there is nothing else running no that prot, it works fine from inside my network, this issue holds true for other apps aswell. they work fine from a 19.168.*.* addy but refuse to work from the outside no mater how my router seems to be set
[01:26] <iLogic> nsadmin: it's wireless (wlan0)
[01:26] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: Well, if I do the upgrade, my nVidia will break anyways
[01:26] <david1234> hikenboot: didnt you say i could use webmin for what i need to do right
[01:26] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: I'd rather get rid of all the junk
[01:26] <nsadmin> ohh
[01:27] <hikenboot> webmin makes it easier to figure out how to use it...yes
[01:27] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> when you say it works okay from the inside, what exactly is your command? which ip address are you using?
[01:27] <Izinucs> WebcamWonder: uninstall all nvidia drivers and related cruft.. then do the upgrade .. then install the new driver.
[01:27] <nsadmin> I'm not familiar with wireless networkign
[01:27] <WebcamWonder> Izinucs: Yeah, awesome. I will be back :)
[01:27] <himbamcky> Hi, I'm having a problem with alsa. Audacious froze and now I have a constant loopback on one second of song. I restarted alsa and that didn't help any. I stopped alsa for a bit the sound stopped and when I restarted alsa it came back, plus it won't play any other audio once restarted.
[01:27] <savvas> !webmin hikenboot david1234
[01:27] <flashkidd> Izinucs: my k3b finds the writer and dont find everytime i login
[01:27] <david1234> hikenboot: ok so how do i point boscoslife.com to its correct acount so i can edit the index.html file and have boscoslife.com read off of my server using webmin
[01:27] <hikenboot> david1234, did you do a google search for bind9 how to?
[01:27] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> i am refering to the LAN the ip to the mechine is 192.168.1.110'
[01:27] <crimsun> himbamcky: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:28] <savvas> !webmin | hikenboot david1234
[01:28] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> also how many nic cards are attached to this subject pc?  and connected to same lan?
[01:28] <iLogic> nsadmin: but it seems that the problem is setting dhcp properly, through the router command perhaps..
[01:28] <crimsun> himbamcky: make sure you get me the output from the alsa-info.sh script and `dmesg'
[01:28] <n8tuser> iLogic -> post in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:28] <himbamcky> crimsun: Thanks and I will
[01:28] <hikenboot> !ebox
[01:28] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> only the one onbord on the motherbord
[01:28] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> when you say it works okay from the inside, what exactly is your command?
[01:28] <iLogic> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/101600/
[01:28] <hikenboot> sorry just trying to help didnt know that thanks
[01:29] <savvas> np :)
[01:29] <n8tuser> iLogic -> remove the wireless-mode managed  and try again
[01:29] <MHz256> hello! how do I make rc.local run at startup?
[01:29] <guille> hello I just allowed an update in ubuntu 8.10 and the Nvidia drivers were also updated. The X server will not work now it went from 177.80 to 277.82 and says the kernal hearders do noot match API Mismatch could some please assist me
[01:29] <david1234> hikenboot: i like webmin so there is no way to use my server as a web based server for websites if i use webmin
[01:29] <iLogic> n8tuser: you sure? cause it's managed on ifconfig right now..
[01:29] <david1234> RNING: the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed. See bug #255368 for information and unsupported workarounds.
[01:29] <n8tuser> iLogic -> remove the wireless-mode managed  and try again
[01:29] <hikenboot> anyone know if evolution has an add in that will aid in forwarding groups of messages to a mailbox...I am trying to sort thru my mail 20K messages and extract the important ones
[01:30] <iLogic> n8tuser: okay.. brb
[01:30] <iLogic> n8tuser: also.. should I just disable wireless on network manager?
[01:30] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> im a ubuntu nub please define 'what command' how i connect to it in 192.168.1.110:0
[01:30] <iLogic> or do I have to remove it or kill or something?
[01:30] <hikenboot> david1234 dont use webmin didnt you see the post just a minute ago use ebox
[01:30] <josh_> how do you open the hardware drivers, when it wont open for me?
[01:30] <n8tuser> iLogic -> i thought you were not using the nm ?
[01:31] <iLogic> n8tuser: I'm trying not to.. but it's the only way to connect
[01:31] <oreof> Quick question.. gnome-power-manager... mine with seg fault if I run as a regular user.. but starts fine as root
[01:31] <david1234> hikenboot: ok so there is no way to do so in webmin or in terminal
[01:31] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> what is the command you used to connect to 192.168.1.110 ?
[01:31] <oreof> thus, it isn't running on startpu (as me)
[01:31] <ae5ir> anybody successfully use a GeForce4 MX 4000 in Hardy? I can run 1024x768 using the nv driver but when I installed the 96.43.xx driver it starts in low graphics mode
[01:31] <josh_> how do you open the hardware drivers, when it wont open for me?
[01:31] <n8tuser> iLogic -> upon removal, try   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:31] <iLogic> n8tuser: I'm trying to manage the network via interfaces so it can be restarted through /etc/init.d/networking
[01:31] <hikenboot> david1234 I am sure there is a way i just dont know how...but dont use webmin use ebox instead
[01:32] <josh_> how do you open the hardware drivers, when it wont open for me?
[01:32] <iLogic> n8tuser: so I do have to uninstall network manager?
[01:32] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> i connect with the Real VNC with 192.168.1.110:0 thats what the program asks for 0 being the session i think
[01:32] <n8tuser> iLogic -> nope, follow what i suggested will you?
[01:32] <node357> "WARNING: the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed"
[01:32] <josh_> how do I open the hardware drivers, when it wont open for me?
[01:32] <oreof> anyone know why gnome-power-manager would fail to run "as me", but starts up fine as root
[01:32] <iLogic> n8tuser: okay.. brb
[01:32] <oreof> it Seg Faults if I try to run it as me
[01:33] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> now on the subject pc,  which ip is it listening on? or nic?
[01:33] <cs_student> when do you guys think that commercial games will be available more widely on linux?
[01:33] <titefuzz> I installed mysql and setup a user
[01:33] <himbamcky> crimsun: I'm getting a no command found on alsa-info.sh
[01:33] <savvas> node357: read further, where it says about the latest build of ebox and shows a PPA repository
[01:33] <mindslant_> Howdy.  I think I have a unique request.  I'm a teacher in a non-networked lab.  I'd like to make a specifically tailored ubuntu distro for my lab so I can install it on each box with the settings in place with as little work as possible.  What's the best way to do this.  Thank you.
[01:34] <simoo_> does anyone know where the pictures used in the glslideshow screensaver are kept?
[01:34] <node357> oh thanks savvas, once again I fail to read all the way through :/
[01:34] <crimsun> himbamcky: did you save the script to your Desktop and run it from there?
[01:34] <jrib> !remaster | mindslant_
[01:34] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> it is listening on 5900 wich is how the server is set and there is only one nic wich is set to static IP
[01:34] <savvas> mindslant_: I think you could clone your drive with www.clonezilla.org and try restore the created image on each machine
[01:35] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> look into vnc configs, there are setting for which nic it listens on? or ip ?
[01:35] <david1234> hikenboot: what is it that i am trying to do how would i google that i dont know really what it is that i am trying to do
[01:35] <LtL> !automate > mindslant_
[01:36] <istvan_> I have a 13 minute video, and I want to put it on youtube. how do I speed it up to exactly 10 mins?
[01:36] <LtL> mindslant_: yet another suggestion compliments of the chanbot
[01:36] <david1234> EVERYONE RNING: the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed. See bug #255368 for information and unsupported workarounds.
[01:36] <titefuzz> How do I create the admin user for Mysql?
[01:36] <mindslant_> Thank you.  I'm thinking about running a virtual machine setup of the distro I want and then clone it.  I think that's the way to go.  I appreciate it.
[01:36] <david1234> hikenboot: RNING: the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed. See bug #255368 for information and unsupported workarounds.
[01:36] <iLogic> n8tuser: no deal.. it returned the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102490/
[01:37] <sambagirl> is adobe air supported in ubuntu?
[01:37] <himbamcky> crimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c9b7cff1718782196c73dcaa407bc3b520bf03d6
[01:37] <savvas> david1234: read further, where it says about the latest build of ebox and shows a PPA (personal package archive) repository in launchpad.
[01:37] <david1234> join/ #webmin
[01:37] <david1234> what server is webmin on
[01:38] <sambagirl> ebox is better david1234
[01:38] <n8tuser> iLogic -> now try  sudo ifdown wlan0;  sudo ifup wlan0
[01:38] <sambagirl> is adobe air supported in ubuntu?
[01:38] <david1234> sambagirl:  the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed. See bug #255368 for information and unsupported workarounds.
[01:38] <crimsun> himbamcky: do you have the output from `dmesg' also pastebinned?
[01:39] <hikenboot> read further, where it says about the latest build of ebox and shows a PPA (personal package archive) repository in launchpad
[01:39] <himbamcky> No, but I can.
[01:39] <sambagirl> david1234 there was an error in the syntax go to #ebox and get the correct syntax
[01:39] <sambagirl> it does work. i use it.
[01:39] <iLogic> sambagirl: http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/04/06/how-to-install-adobe-air-on-ubuntu/
[01:39] <nsadmin> and as antiquated as it is, plain text is probably better than that for many reasons including ability to maintain without a gui
[01:39] <sambagirl> i dont recall the syntax is all.
[01:39] <sambagirl> thanks ilogic
[01:39] <istvan_> anyone?
[01:39] <iLogic> sambagirl: np
[01:39] <iLogic> n8tuser: will try, hold on
[01:40] <Seiver`Damross> n8tuser> i think i found what you wanted erlyer the command is vncviewer caspre2:0
[01:40] <refefer> anyone know if there is a deb for python2.6?
[01:41] <nsadmin> refefer packages.ubuntu.com
[01:41] <hikenboot> I take it in order to forward a bunch of messages as individuals i have to find some sort of spam program that the functionality isnt built into any client so that it prevents someone from doing that?
[01:41] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> now do the same, vncviewer 65.116.243.68
[01:42] <Putra_cute_abs> rey
[01:42] <iLogic> n8tuser: same problem..
[01:42] <n8tuser> iLogic -> and you are pretty sure your driver supports wep or wpa?
[01:42] <iLogic> n8tuser: yeah.. it`s wep and it works just fine with networkmanager
[01:43] <jrib> refefer: not in the official repositories, but it's straightforward to compile.  Just make sure you use make altinstall instead of make install
[01:43] <ConstantineXVI> is there a way to cat to multiple files at once?
[01:43] <iLogic> n8tuser: seems to me that I should be directing dhcp.. but don't know how
[01:43] <himbamcky> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m58a24718
[01:44] <jrib> ConstantineXVI: in zsh there is :)
[01:44] <iLogic> sambagirl: are you from brazil?
[01:44] <nsadmin> ConstantineXVI man tee
[01:44] <ScottG489> My laptop seems to have problems starting up after being closed. All I have it do when its closed it have the screen turn off.
[01:44] <n8tuser> iLogic -> what do you meant directing dhcp? isnt your AP the dhcp server?
[01:45] <qqx> where can i find details on using a bluetooth headset with skype?
[01:45] <flashkidd> does someone knows how to set up k3b?
[01:45] <mcarter> Do i have to do anything special when switching from sysvinit to upstart, besides sudo apt-get install upstart?
[01:45] <crimsun> himbamcky: i'm guessing you have/had firefox open?
[01:45] <jrib> mcarter: why would you be doing that?  What version of ubuntu is this?
[01:45] <iLogic> n8tuser: yeah, I mean the client.. it keeps looking for 255.255.255.255 and finds no offer, whereas networkmanager connects with no problems at all..
[01:45] <himbamcky> crimsun: Yes.
[01:45] <n8tuser> mcarter -> do you have /etc/event.d/   ?
[01:46] <mcarter> jrib, ubuntu 7.10
[01:46] <crimsun> himbamcky: ok, now add: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*
[01:46] <himbamcky> OKay
[01:46] <WebcamWonder> How do I check whether the nVidia drivers are actually not loaded?
[01:47] <jrib> mcarter: it's probably a better idea to just upgrade to the next ubuntu version, 7.10 will be EOL in three months anyway
[01:47] <n8tuser> iLogic -> what do you have checked in nm ?
[01:47] <iLogic> n8tuser: subnetmask is 255.255.255.0 instead of x.x.x.255
[01:48] <WebcamWonder> !nvidia
[01:48] <mcarter> n8tuser, after I install upstart I do
[01:48] <himbamcky> crimsun: Want me to pastebin the output?
[01:48] <soc> hi
[01:48] <soc> since that update of libssl my password doesn't work anymore
[01:48] <soc> to unlock the key
[01:48] <n8tuser> iLogic -> can you post your dhclient.conf ?
[01:48] <iLogic> n8tuser: does it work if I leave router as it is and set static on my box?
[01:49] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Hey, back - you there?
[01:49] <solexious> Can I stream my audio over a network to my other ubuntu box? And if so how?
[01:49] <soc> my password for the ssh key
[01:49] <corp> can someone maybe help me with installing a theme ? something i may of missed in the installs on a fresh install after all updates completed? ty in advance
[01:49] <n8tuser> mcarter -> nothing really interesting in /etc/event.d/  it just simulates sysv init
[01:49] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> yes am here
[01:50] <Flannel> mcarter: 7.10 already has upstart, by the way.  Upstart's been being phased in since 6.10
[01:50] <soc> corp: just install it via your package manager
[01:50] <a-t> hi guys i have question i did upgrade when i installed ubuntu and then i had to change my menu.lst file from root (1,0) to root (0,0) now there is new upgrades again now do i have to change it back like old one so that way it doesn't usk me to choose new config or keep local? what sould i do?
[01:50] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Great - wanted to chat to you from Ubuntu but I couldn't access the C drive from there to get the link back to the page (I saved the link as a text file)
[01:50] <WebcamWonder> How do I check whether the nVidia drivers are actually not loaded?
[01:50] <subone> How can I setup ubuntu to output to my laptop's svideo jack?
[01:50] <corp> soc please explain more please ty
[01:50] <hans> I wonder if someone can help me get wireless networking enabled? I am showing the driver for my wireless NIC installed, but the wireless does not show up as an available device in network settings
[01:50] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Do you want me to chat to you from Ubuntu or is it okay to do it from Windows.
[01:50] <soc> corp: or do you have downloaded a package?
[01:50] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I have some descriptions about what I saw
[01:50] <crimsun> himbamcky: yes
[01:50] <iLogic> n8tuser: it's all commented, except for send host-name "<hostname>"; and request subnet-mask, etc, etc..
[01:51] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> where-ever, as long as its in this channel
[01:51] <corp> d/l ed yes
[01:51] <himbamcky> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m78438ea7
[01:51] <sambagirl> ilogic i am following the instructions right now.
[01:51] <Nomexous> WebcamWonder: did you try lsmod?
[01:51] <n8tuser> iLogic -> do not make me guess, paste it please
[01:51] <Flannel> a-t: Near the top part of your menu.lst, you'll see a line that's commented out (with a #) that has "groot=(hdX,Y)" on it.  Change that to what you want it to be, but *don't* uncomment it
[01:51] <corp> package manager sounds better im thinking now
[01:51] <Flannel> a-t: to verify its changed properly, save it and then do sudo update-grub
[01:51] <crimsun> himbamcky: try: pulseaudio -k && sleep 3 && pulseaudio -D -vv
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> Nomexous: What am I looking for in lsmod? lsmod | grep nvidia returns nothing
[01:51] <a-t> what do u mean flannel
[01:51] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Cools...
[01:52] <soc> open synaptic, and search for  "-themes"
[01:52] <corp> ty
[01:52] <soc> most of the packages coming up are theme packages
[01:52] <n8tuser> Seiver`Damross -> have I lost you?
[01:52] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I couldn't boot into the Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD by just sticking in the CD
[01:52] <iLogic> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102494
[01:52] <Nomexous> WebcamWonder: that leads me to believe nvidia modules are not loaded
[01:52] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> so i used this options that offered help and installed files both on my C and D drive
[01:52] <Intrepid> Where is the place to insert a command to configure networking on system startup?
[01:52] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> did you modify your bios to boot from CD as first priority?
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> Nomexous: Ahan. and where does lsmod pick up the modules to load?
[01:53] <Flannel> a-t: what part don't you understand?
[01:53] <afallenhope> hey I was wondering to remove kernels from ubuntu it's sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.24-12-generic linux-headers-2.6.24-12-generic
[01:53] <afallenhope> right/
[01:53] <soc> corp: murrine-themes, outdoors-theme, community-themes etc....
[01:53] <Nomexous> WebcamWonder: you load modules with modprobe
[01:53] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> the C drive had 2 files and the D drive had two files as well but also had 2 folders... I cut and paste everything from D to C.
[01:53] <grendal_prime> !hardware
[01:53] <a-t> to go to menu.lst
[01:53] <nsadmin> Intrepid /etc/network/interfaces
[01:53] <Flannel> afallenhope: something like that, yes.
[01:53] <giacomo_c> can anyone help me setup my plantronic usb headphones?  it doesn't seem to show up under asoundconf list
[01:53] <soc> corp: some packages are themes for programs, you wouldn't want that ...
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> This is totally weird. Apparently, the bug I had with the binary drivers also exist in the open source mesa? :s
[01:53] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Yes I did modify my bios to boot from Cd as first priority and its just passed the Live CD straight on went to boot Windows
[01:53] <afallenhope> Flannel,  kkz ty
[01:53] <Nomexous> WebcamWonder: not sure if this is the exact command, but try 'sudo modprobe nvidia'
[01:53] <Flannel> a-t: /boot/grub/menu.lst, open it in a text editor (alt-f2 then gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[01:53] <iLogic> Intrepid: good luck with that, though... it seems that ubuntu doesn't want you to manually manage it..
[01:53] <soc> try gnome-themes, gnome-themes-extras
[01:53] <Intrepid> nsadmin: i have that part configured, but i need to know how to automatically execute the command "ifup eth0"
[01:54] <corp> soc may i pm ?
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> Nomexous: Well, I uninstalled the nVidia driver, and just wanted to make sure it is no longer being loaded
[01:54] <soc> yes
[01:54] <corp> ty
[01:54] <afallenhope> Flannel, should I --purge it too?
[01:54] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> make sure you have a good tested livecd, also sometimes livecd is not supported by your system, so you have to use the text only alternatecd
[01:54] <Flannel> afallenhope: purge will remove config files, so yes.  purge will be sure to get everything
[01:54] <iLogic> Intrepid: try System > Sessions
[01:54] <Bman_> hello, how can I create a kiosk system with only a minimal ubuntu linux install and Qt as the main interface?
[01:54] <soc> since the update of libssl/openssl a few hours ago, i can't unlock my ssh keys anymore, my password isn not accepted anymore
[01:55] <soc> can someone help me?
[01:55] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> remember thank link you sent me? I saw an options to test the CD but the screen shot of the menu that appears has never been seen before in my life
[01:55] <firefly2442> Can anyone help me with Firestarter? I'm trying to share my Internet connection, DHCP works and I correct IP on client machines but they can't get on the Internet
[01:55] <Flannel> Bman_: You may want to ask in #kubuntu, I believe theres some easy way to configure KDE to do kiosk stuff
[01:55] <a-t> ok i see where it's saying groot=(hd1,0)
[01:55] <himbamcky> crimsun: tells me 'daemon start up failed'
[01:55] <Nomexous> WebcamWonder: If it's uninstalled, there's nothing to load. lsmod reports that it's not loaded. Is that all you were trying to figure out?
[01:55] <a-t> should i change it to hd0,0
[01:55] <corp> soc
[01:55] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I still cut and paste 2 files and 2 folders from the D drive and then pasted it into the C drive and then when I did reboot it worked
[01:55] <corp> why does it echo post in your pm ?
[01:55] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Is that safe or does it appear to be safe but could spell trouble?
[01:55] <Bman_> thx flannel
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> Nomexous: Yeah, :). Thanks. B/c I have always had compiz disabled, and these drivers look no different than the Binary nVidia
[01:56] <firefly2442> I even set it to allow all of my IP addresses
[01:56] <Flannel> soc: Did you reboot your system?
[01:56] <giacomo_c> does anyone know about getting usb headsets to work?
[01:56] <soc> Flannel: no
[01:56] <Flannel> soc: Try restarting
[01:56] <soc> mh ok
[01:56] <soc> that would be pretty stupid ...
[01:56] <n8tuser> iLogic -> try to add timeout 60    so it will try a bit longer
[01:57] <iLogic> n8tuser: nevermind, dude.. it seems useless
[01:57] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> the 2 files and folders came after from clicking the option about getting help to boot from the Live Cd that didn't boot by just restarting the computer with the Live CD in the CD drive
[01:57] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> i dont know what those two files are
[01:57] <paintedangel> anyone got any idea how to get a scanner working in ubuntu 8.10?
[01:58] <kajamaja> anyone got any idea how to connect to wireless printer
[01:58] <kajamaja> lexmark 6500
[01:58] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> the name of the first file is "wubildr" and the second name of the file was "wubildr.mbr"
[01:58] <paintedangel> trying to get this scanner/printer combo working at a tattoo shop an epson cx7400
[01:58] <pymike> Hi, I'm having a really long delay playing sounds in PyGame and other SDL applications. I've heard maybe it's because pulseaudio has increased it's latency - is there a way to lower pa's latency?
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> Has anyone faced this bug before? For nVidia, a part of the screen doesn't refresh properly... http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2425/screenshot2009010815298cl3.png
[01:58] <afallenhope> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/d5118611e I got that can I just rm -rf it?
[01:58] <paintedangel> the printer is working no luck on the scanner however
[01:59] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> those are wubi installs, i thought you want the ubuntu on a partition by itself?
[01:59] <kajamaja> wireless printer?
[01:59] <paintedangel> nah usb
[01:59] <kajamaja> yeah
[01:59] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> yes I do but this is what I did to get the Live CD to work on my computer
[01:59] <kajamaja> that sucks :)
[01:59] <b-dogg> hey any one here know linux mint?
[01:59] <firefly2442> How can I get an IP address from DHCP yet not be able to ping the DHCP machine?
[01:59] <crimsun> himbamcky: please pastebin all the output
[01:59] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> and I have a correction - the 2 folders turn out to be 1 folder called Ubuntu
[01:59] <a-t> Flannel > i found groot=(hd1,0) should i change it to (hd0,0)
[01:59] <Flannel> afallenhope: Are you currently using that kernel by any chacne?
[01:59] <sheep> firefly2442: that machine might drop pings
[01:59] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> okay,  so are you able to install?
[02:00] <a-t> and remove # sighn
[02:00] <Flannel> !mintsupport | b-dogg
[02:00] <Flannel> a-t: No, don't remove the hash, leave it commented
[02:00] <himbamcky> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m53fe8747
[02:00] <a-t> and then what?
[02:00] <b-dogg> doesnt mean u cant help me?
[02:00] <firefly2442> sheep: I'm getting "destination host unreachable",  does stock Ubuntu drop ping packets?
[02:00] <Baz_> hello, I installed an AirLink 150n WirelessN PCI Adapter in my desktop and I don't see any options for wireless networks in my net manager - any ideas?
[02:00] <Flannel> a-t: then save.  And sudo update-grub (then verify the changes are in the written kernels, down at the bottom)
[02:00] <UbuntuNewbie> Yeah
[02:00] <sheep> firefly2442: I don't think so
[02:01] <UbuntuNewbie> I tried the install option I saw on the Ubuntu desktop and this is what I did
[02:01] <Flannel> b-dogg: We don't support mint here
[02:01] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> I selected the language and the time zone and neveryting correctly
[02:01] <kajamaja> join #git
[02:01] <n8tuser> UbuntuNewbie -> okay good luck.. am out of here for now
[02:01] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> Serious?
[02:01] <UbuntuNewbie> n8tuser -> You're going now?
[02:01] <a-t> flannel
[02:02] <a-t> now i got message
[02:02] <fiXXXerMet> I am installing ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop and I would like to encrypt the /home (or even /) partition.  How can I do this?
[02:02] <a-t> what would you like to do about menu.lst install the package maintainer's version or keep the local version currently installed
[02:02] <corp> i installed a couple themes but when i right click screen and look they dont show in the theme box ?? what could be the cause of this guys ?
[02:02] <Flannel> a-t: Oh, that sort of upgrade.  What other changes did you make to your menu.lst?
[02:03] <soc> corp: which themes did you install?
[02:03] <a-t> that's it
[02:03] <a-t> i did change root (hd0,0)
[02:03] <corp> 4 randon ones
[02:03] <a-t> because before i was hd1,0
[02:03] <soc> package names?
[02:03] <a-t> and i could not load ubuntu
[02:03] <Flannel> a-t: Alright, then go ahead and use the package maintainers version.
[02:03] <a-t> so i changed it after updating it
[02:03] <Flannel> a-t: then once you've finished the upgrade, go back and make that change again.
[02:03] <corp> soc btw your pm causes strange things after i pm you ?
[02:03] <corp> doubles and tripples
[02:04] <soc> mhhh, i didn't get any pms ...
[02:04] <a-t> so
[02:04] <a-t> flannel can u pm me please
[02:04] <poochie> I was shrinking a windows partition on a laptop to put linux in and the power was pulled in the middle of it. how do i fix it?
[02:04] <a-t> flannel can i pm u please
[02:05] <Flannel> a-t: It's best to keep it in the channel, I'll summarize though:  Use the new package version (not local version), then after the upgrade, go back and change your root (like you just did) to the one that works (to hd0,0), then sudo update-grub, and then reboot.
[02:05] <mcarter> how can I upgrade from ubuntu 7.10 to 8.10 on the shell?
[02:05] <a-t> and then do updates for ubuntu again
[02:05] <iLogic> mcarter: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:05] <jrib> !upgrade | mcarter
[02:05] <a-t> there is some available
[02:05] <Baz_> my wireless network adapter is not being recognized by my desktop - it doesn't even think there is any wireless adapter - is there a way to coax ubuntu into finding it?
[02:05] <tokyoahead> hi all... can someone tell me where Ican setup xorg.conf in case I want to switch screens (int./ext.) on my laptop and I run different resolutions on it?
[02:06] <Seiver`Damross> any way to get someone on voice to help?
[02:06] <iLogic> jrib: say.. you know if it's humanly possible to use /etc/network/interfaces to manage a wireless connection instead of network manager?
[02:07] <jrib> iLogic: can't tell you for sure.  I believe it should still work, networkmanager just won't manage it
[02:08] <iLogic> jrib: it just seems inhuman to me.. :(
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> iLogic: WPA issues?
[02:08] <corp> if i want to see the themes that i have installed with synaptic i do what ?
[02:08] <pymike> hello?
[02:08] <Bman_> flannel why would you suggest Kubuntu?
[02:08] <mcarter> jrib, so then do i have to go from 7.10 to 8.04, then to 8.10 ?
[02:08] <jrib> mcarter: yes
[02:08] <iLogic> WebcamWonder: nope.. it's wep and the issue seems to be with dhcp leasing
[02:08] <Flannel> Bman_: Because I believe KDE has some kiosk configuration thing
[02:09] <Bman_> how about an ubuntu install without a desktop enviroment
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> iLogic: Well, I just threw away NM, and got WICD. Have been living a painless life with regards to wireless ever since
[02:09] <Bman_> I just want to run a c++ program fullscreen
[02:09] <corp> if i want to see the themes that i have installed with synaptic i do what ? again if someone has the answer ty in advance
[02:09] <UbuntuNewbie> I NEED SOMEONE WHO IS A BOSS IN UBUNTU willing to help me
[02:09] <nickrud> iLogic, yes, I did it once as an exercise; /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz explains how
[02:10] <corp> i will google until i see my name highlight thank you
[02:10] <iLogic> nickrud: i'll check it, thanks!
[02:10] <Flannel> !anyone | UbuntuNewbie
[02:10] <Baz_> in windows there is a device manager that shows you all your hardware and most importantly the detected hardware that does not have a proper driver - is there a similar thing in linux? I saw sysinfo briefly but that seemed a little lacking
[02:10] <Flannel> corp: Search in installed packages for things with "theme" in their description.  I don't think there's something programmed in there for themes (a category or whatnot)
[02:11] <iLogic> WebcamWonder: the thing is.. my connection keeps dropping when I check it in the morning, so I figured I use a script that restarts networking, but it won't work unless I have wlan0 listed on interfaces, which network manager does not..
[02:11] <corp> v ty
[02:11] <corp> im looking now
[02:11] <UbuntuNewbie> ubottu -> Do you know how to get Ubuntu installed on a partition of the hard drive?
[02:11] <poochie> how can i repair/recover a partition that was being re-sized with gparted but abruptly stopped? the partition is now displayed as unknown partition
[02:11] <WebcamWonder> iLogic: Did you configure the interface yourself in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:11] <Flannel> UbuntuNewbie: What about install do you have a question about?
[02:12] <Bman_> i want to install ubuntu minimal on a thin client. the only thing I want running is a C++ application. what packages will be required?
[02:12] <nickrud> corp, you can look in /usr/share/themes; some are gtk themes, others metacity or kde
[02:12] <hans_> how do i get my laptop wireless nic to show up as an available device? it shows as an enabled driver, but it does not show up in my netwrok settings?
[02:13] <UbuntuNewbie> ubottu -> I have one hard drive - Windows and its drive letter is C - from that same hard drive I made a partition called Ubuntu with a drive letter of D. How do I specifically get to install Ubuntu operating system on the D drive so that I can have both Windows and Ubuntu on one system on their own partitions when performing the installation?
[02:13] <iLogic> WebcamWonder: tried to, but when I try to restart the network it won't find any dhcp offerings on 255.255.255.255 (under networkmanager netmask is 255.255.255.0 though)
[02:13] <XeKtRuM> hello
[02:14] <Baz_> i stuck a network card in my computer but ubuntu doesn't recognize that anything new/different happened? How can I check if it maybe sees it bt doesn't know what to do with it?
[02:14] <XeKtRuM> anyone can help me out with the flashplayer install ?
[02:14] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: sure whats up
[02:14] <Logomachist> I've heard that Linux doesn't need anti-virus programs, but IMO it's only a matter of time before we see malware appearing on Unix. Plus I'd like to be able to catch malware while running Linux that would be invisible under Windows.
[02:14] <Anacranom> UbuntuNewbie,  you really dont need that ,,, its very easy to dual boot and most here can show you how
[02:15] <Logomachist> Is there such a thing?
[02:15] <XeKtRuM> can't get it to work
[02:15] <tokyoahead> hi all... Iam running a laptop with an external screen but I am having trouble switching between them and running different resolutions on them... any help here? Is there a how-to guide or something how the xorg.conf file has to be setup?
[02:15] <iLogic> nickrud: you think this wpasupplicant solution would work in a wep managed network?
[02:15] <XeKtRuM> I have tried everything
[02:15] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: 32bit or 64bit?
[02:15] <XeKtRuM> 32
[02:15] <DIL> how do i print a cd label is there an application that will do that
[02:15] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: intrepid 8.10?
[02:15] <jrib> Logomachist: using the repositories instead of downloading random programs from the internet is the best way to stay safe
[02:15] <UbuntuNewbie> Anacranom -> How do you dual boot?
[02:15] <XeKtRuM> yeap
[02:15] <Mac101> hi
[02:15] <XeKtRuM> firefox 3.0.5
[02:15] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: u trie restricted exras?
[02:16] <Mac101>  im having a problem with my wireless speed should be 600kbps~ but always drops to 100kbps~ after a few minutes,i have an  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG and using the iwl3945 driver
[02:16] <ianm_> on 8.04 bluetooth was working, now it seems the interface doesn't exist.  I do see this in dmesg though:  [    31.002879] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.11, Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized.
[02:16] <Logomachist> Why are repositories safer?
[02:16] <nickrud> iLogic, ah, not sure. Never used wep myself. googling   wep  /etc/network/interfaces may come up with some guides (I used wpa ... to remind me how I did it)
[02:17] <jrib> Logomachist: because random Joe can't upload there
[02:17] <Baz_> Logomachist: they are safer because there is a lot of care and visibility on what goes into them - but mainly the point of them is that they are easier
[02:17] <XeKtRuM> i allready have it
[02:17] <ianm_> Logomachist: they are run by good people with reputations to maintain.  random websites are anonymous and they come and go
[02:17] <himbamcky> crimsun: Any solutions?
[02:17] <XeKtRuM> Baz_, i upgrade from 8.04
[02:17] <Grim76__> What is the command to reconfigure X?
[02:18] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: how does it behave? simply as though u never installed any flash or is there some error or problem?
[02:18] <crimsun> himbamcky: i need the pastebin url of the pulseaudio -D -vv spew
[02:18] <sleekassasin117> does someone have recon
[02:18] <ianm_> Grim76__: http://www.google.com/search?q=What+is+the+command+to+reconfigure+X   :D
[02:18] <Grim76__> Heh....at the command line and no internet right now.
[02:18] <Grim76__> at least from a browser stand point.
[02:18] <XeKtRuM> Baz_, no error, it wont load the plugin
[02:18] <sleekassasin117> because i really need it
[02:18] <a-t> guys should i do sudo update-grub everything i do changes in menu.lst
[02:19] <ianm_> Grim76__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <a-t> or no
[02:19] <XeKtRuM> about:plugins dont show any flash plugin
[02:19] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: have u tried a full remove and re-install?
[02:19] <Grim76__> ianm_, Thanks I will try that now.  I appreciate the help.
[02:19] <Anacranom> UbuntuNewbie, check your PM
[02:19] <ianm_> Grim76__: there are some text based web browsers btw, links, lynx others
[02:19] <XeKtRuM> i even copied the libflashplugin.so in many firefox directories
[02:19] <XeKtRuM> yes
[02:19] <sleekassasin117> i need recon armor
[02:19] <UbuntuNewbie> Anacranom -> what's a PM?
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> iLogic: hmm. Weird
[02:20] <sleekassasin117> can someone give it to me
[02:20] <ianm_> Grim76__: or you could use wget :D
[02:20] <himbamcky> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m29b0d032
[02:20] <Anacranom> UbuntuNewbie, what program are you you using to chat here?
[02:20] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: oh, u did try alot... i had this same problem a while back, let me think
[02:20] <hans_> how do i get my laptop wireless nic to show up as an available device? it shows as an enabled driver, but it does not show up in my netwrok settings?
[02:20] <smacnay> I am perplexed.  I did a fresh 8.10 install and tried to get a dial-up connection to work.  I finally got wvdial to dial the modem and also gpppon to work, after configuring with pppconfig.  Connection is made but no data is sent (although one email was sent out).  "route" shows nothing.  eth0 is activated by default.  I am most likely missing something simple here.
[02:20] <a-t> XeKtRuM just install flash player
[02:20] <UbuntuNewbie> Anacranom -> I'm chatting in Mozilla Firefox
[02:20] <smacnay> ifconfig does who a working ppp0.
[02:20] <sleekassasin117> give me recon
[02:21] <sleekassasin117> plz
[02:21] <krazed> hans_: Find out what card it is and see if there is already a fix for it on google/ubuntuforums.
[02:21] <sleekassasin117> i am begging
[02:21] <a-t> hey guys how safe is it to run tor in ubuntu?
[02:21] <nsadmin> sleekassasin117: POOF! you have recon armon!
[02:21] <nsadmin> oh NO, that's not the recon spell...
[02:21] <nsadmin> sorry
[02:21] <Logomachist> What you say is probably true, but it could also be said that if I never downloaded anything I'd avoid the risk completely. But then why bother being connected to the Internet at all? I'd like to mitigate risk without sacrificing all the cool stuff I can find online.
[02:21] <Anacranom> UbuntuNewbie, PM = Private Message
[02:21] <sleekassasin117> really
[02:21] <UbuntuNewbie> Ok
[02:21] <XeKtRuM> a-t, ¬¬
[02:21] <nsadmin> that's the chicken suit spell!
[02:22] <XeKtRuM> that sounds easy to say
[02:22] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: do u get error msgs when u run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:23] <sleekassasin117> then someone give me recon send me it
[02:23] <nsadmin> no unfortunately I miscast the chicken suit spell instead of the recon spell
[02:23] <nsadmin> enjoy your feathers...
[02:23] <XeKtRuM> Baz_, nopes
[02:23] <XeKtRuM> install goes fine
[02:23] <sleekassasin117> fuck you nsadmin
[02:23] <DIL> oh my!
[02:24] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: wanna try uninstalling FF :)?
[02:24] <sleekassasin117> thats right nsadmin
[02:24] <XeKtRuM> Baz_, allready done
[02:24] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: usually there is some sort of msg somewhere!
[02:24] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: seriously!
[02:24] <nsadmin> hey, could you use a gekko suit?
[02:24] <magc> hey, i just downloaded a .tar.gz and extracted the files, and i see security locks on them all, why is this?
[02:24] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: umm, i don't know what to tell u
[02:24] <sleekassasin117> fuck you nsadmin
[02:25] <Baz_> XeKtRuM: besides ofcourse do a clean install of 8.10 but i'm sure u want to avoid that
[02:25] <a-t> XeKtRuM check your pm
[02:25] <ardchoille> !language | sleekassasin117
[02:25] <potwak> !language
[02:25] <magc> hmm any of you know?
[02:25] <potwak> !ubuntu
[02:25] <XeKtRuM> Baz_, it seems its the only way to get it work
[02:26] <pymike> no answer for my question?
[02:26] <potwak> magc: what is your question anyway?
[02:26] <magc> "hey, i just downloaded a .tar.gz and extracted the files, and i see security locks on them all, why is this?"
[02:26] <firefly2442> what's the difference between /etc/dhcpd.conf   and   /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf   how do I know what configuration file it's using?
[02:26] <potwak> magc: it might need a password.
[02:27] <magc> no--everything is read only
[02:27] <magc> so i gotta be root to change it?
[02:27] <potwak> magc: you may change its file attribute
[02:27] <magc> oh that works
[02:27] <aandono> sudo chown
[02:28] <magc> also--when i try to compress files to zip, they are all empty--i have to copy the files to my windows partitions to zip them in ubuntu
[02:28] <magc> weird
[02:29] <noodlesgc> magc right click them, click properties and see if you can change permissions
[02:29] <boot_loop> hey folks, does anyone know how i can copy my mysql database files from one server to another? I need to revert to an older image of my web server, but I need to use my current database?
[02:29] <zeroRooter> Hey guys, my mouse on ubuntu 8.10 is riculously laggy, it teleports all over the screen, i have tried different mouses its all the same so im guessing it's software... any help?
[02:30] <firefly2442> boot_loop: do you have phpmyadmin?
[02:30] <Grell> can anyone help me with audacious?
[02:31] <dk> can anyone solve my problem.. my microphone volume is low. I am using ubuntu 8.04 64bit
[02:31] <legendsohai> anybody can tell me why I cant remove my ssh key from ssh-add?
[02:31] <boot_loop> firefly2442: no not yet
[02:31] <boot_loop> i've set everything up by command line
[02:31] <firefly2442> boot_loop: once you install it on both machines, then login and goto export
[02:32] <firefly2442> boot_loop: you essentially export an SQL file with all your database structures and data, then just import it on the other side
[02:32] <Grell> i want to load a directory of music (including subdirectories) into audacious, i only see an option to add files, and it doesnt work to just click on a directory and click "add"
[02:32] <zeroRooter>  Hey guys, my mouse on ubuntu 8.10 is riculously laggy, it teleports all over the screen, i have tried different mouses its all the same so im guessing it's software... any help?
[02:32] <PATX> firefox wont let me watch videos
[02:32] <PATX> whatshould i do?
[02:32] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: are you using a KVM?
[02:32] <boot_loop> firefly2442: great, i'll give it a shot.
[02:32] <zeroRooter> KNM???
[02:32] <zeroRooter> :)
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> Is "nv" the opensource driver? or is it the binary driver?
[02:32] <firefly2442> boot_loop: if it's ubuntu, you can just install it from apt-get
[02:33] <LtL> Grell: when you select a dir, click the file window, press ctrl+a  then click add/ok
[02:33] <Cerealkiller> hello
[02:33] <wile_e8> I encrypted a file with passwords using a key I created from the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" program.  If I back up the file, how do I back up the key in order to recover the file on a clean install?
[02:33] <zeroRooter> firefly2442: what is KVM
[02:33] <LtL> WebcamWonder: opensource driver
[02:33] <Seiver`Damross> boot_loop> its also handy when your messing with your DB and dont want to destroy yout live DB to export a comy to play with
[02:34] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: keyboad video and mouse, I'm guessing no then ;)
[02:34] <WebcamWonder> LtL: Awesome thanks
[02:34] <PATX> i cannot watch videos what should i do?
[02:34] <zeroRooter> you mean as in a keaybodar a videocard and a mouse? lol
[02:34] <zeroRooter> board
[02:34] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: sometimes I have the same issue, but only for a few seconds if I switch displays on my KVM
[02:34] <dk> can anyone solve my problem.. my microphone volume is low. I am using ubuntu 8.04 64bit
[02:34] <boot_loop> is phpmysqladmin easy to install?
[02:34] <nsadmin> PATX go to the movies!
[02:34] <noodlesgc> PATX are they videos in a flash player window? or just embedded video?
[02:34] <Grell> LtL: I want to add a directory of directories
[02:34] <fuxxy>  /join #mythtv-users
[02:34] <nickrud> boot_loop, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[02:35] <pymike> no answer for my question? :(
[02:35] <propagandhi> lol
[02:35] <Grell> so the file window is blank
[02:35] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch
[02:35] <LtL> Grell: one at a time w/audacious afaik
[02:35] <boot_loop> nickrud: and then easy to use from that point? My server has no gui
[02:35] <zeroRooter> OK
[02:35] <zeroRooter> :)
[02:35] <firefly2442> boot_loop: yeah, it's all web-based, really easy
[02:35] <nickrud> boot_loop, phpmysqladmin displays in the browser locally; no gui needed on the server
[02:35] <dk> #ubuntu = chaos
[02:35] <roccity_> pymike, whats your question
[02:35] <LtL> Grell: check out amarok
[02:36] <poseidon> What is the difference between universe and miltiverse?
[02:36] <pymike> (08:01:13 PM) pymike: Hi, I'm having a really long delay playing sounds in PyGame and other SDL applications. I've heard maybe it's because pulseaudio has increased it's latency - is there a way to lower pa's latency?
[02:36] <zeroRooter> shit firefly i think your right lol
[02:36] <Fish_Kungfu> @boot_loop...do this to make a backup file leave off angle brackets around password) # mysqldump -uroot -p<password> --opt databaseName > backup.sql
[02:36] <zeroRooter> i am using kvm haha
[02:36] <boot_loop> nickrud: cool, so how do I view the database in a web broweser on another machine?
[02:36] <zeroRooter> wait... no nvm
[02:36] <zeroRooter> lol
[02:36] <legendsohai> I cant delete ssh key from memory by using ssh-add -D, anybody can tell me what happen was it?
[02:36] <roccity_> pymike have you tried using a different audio server like alsa
[02:36] <noodlesgc> PATX try installing the totem-mozilla package from synaptic.
[02:37] <nickrud> boot_loop, type    192.168.1.60/phpmyadmin   (or whatever ip) in the browser location bar
[02:37] <pymike> yes
[02:37] <PATX> noodlesgc: k ty
[02:37] <zeroRooter> firefly: i have 2 keyboard and 2 mouses on the same monitor
[02:37] <boot_loop> fish, nice thanks
[02:37] <roccity_> pymike do you get the same problem
[02:37] <Ward1983> i just isntalled ktechlb but i get this error when trying to open a .circuit : KCrash: Application 'ktechlab' crashing...     Could not find 'drkonqi' executable.
[02:37] <Ward1983> any ideas?
[02:37] <pymike> roccity_: yes
[02:37] <ek> hola
[02:37] <zeroRooter> and i have gefore MX-440 w/e...
[02:37] <pymike> I'm using alsa right now
[02:37] <Ward1983> i just use ubuntu 8.10 64bit, so gnome by default
[02:37] <corp> i didnt like that theme at all :(
[02:37] <roccity_> pymike there is a pulseaudio configuration in synaptic
[02:37] <Seiver`Damross> boot_loop> http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[02:37] <corp> i changed to gnome
[02:38] <pymike> k ill check it out
[02:38] <noodlesgc> Ward1983 interestingly enough, I just had that problem 5 seconds ago and am googling around
[02:38] <roccity_> pymike you can try that
[02:38] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: I have the same issue with the mouse, but it only messes up for a few seconds
[02:38] <Fish_Kungfu> @boot_loopThen on your new instance of MySQL, just create the database with no tables and do this from within MySQL:  mysql> SOURCE /path/to/backup.sql
[02:38] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, haha timing
[02:38] <cheekee> why is ubuntu different from debian?
[02:38] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: I'm guessing it's a driver issue? dunno...
[02:38] <Fish_Kungfu> @boot_loop that will rebuild your database
[02:38] <corp> nickrud thank you for all your help friend
[02:38] <boot_loop> cool, thanks a lot
[02:38] <zeroRooter> firefly: maybe but which driver? video card driver?
[02:38] <jeffreyf1> HELLO. can not get "sun-java6-plugin" because "Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[02:38] <Fish_Kungfu> yw :)
[02:38] <zeroRooter> does my mouse need a driver? lol
[02:38] <perlluver> cheekee, Ubuntu is Debian, but with newer version of software, and an up to date system
[02:38] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: no, probably for the mouse
[02:38] <perlluver> or something to that effect
[02:39] <zeroRooter> my mouse need a driver?
[02:39] <zeroRooter> lol damnit!
[02:39] <roccity_> jeffreyf1, try typing in sudo apt-get isntall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:39] <roccity_> install
[02:39] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: I just plug in another USB mouse and switch ^^
[02:39] <pymike> roccity_: paprefs didn't have anything
[02:39] <zeroRooter> umm
[02:39] <firefly2442> zeroRooter: I don't know of a solution, sorry :/
[02:39] <zeroRooter> k lol
[02:39] <roccity_> pymike go to synaptic and type in pulseaudio
[02:40] <pymike> I did
[02:40] <nickrud> corp, like what you see?
[02:40] <pymike> there's tons of crap in there
[02:40] <corp> no
[02:40] <pymike> browsing atm
[02:40] <corp> :(
[02:40] <corp> ugly
[02:40] <corp> i put it back on default
[02:40] <legendsohai> I cant delete ssh key from memory by using ssh-add -D, anybody can tell me what happen was it? any ideas? now I cant ssh another machine by using the same key.
[02:40] <rporter> anyone know anything about programming?
[02:40] <firefly2442> rporter: what do you want to know?
[02:41] <nickrud> corp, same sequence:  log out, choose the gnome session under options->sessions, log back in
[02:41] <LtL> legendsohai: what error do you get
[02:41] <rporter> specifically, I have a username / password in a javascript file and I want to protect that somehow
[02:41] <winterk> Heys - is EnvyNG safe to use on 8.10?
[02:41] <jeffreyf1> roccity_: "ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version."
[02:41] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, notyhing usefull yet here
[02:41] <legendsohai> LtL: nothing error
[02:41] <winterk> Trying to get a dual support on an ATI card
[02:41] <nickrud> corp, blackbox is for customizing geeks or low powered machines
[02:41] <winterk> *dual monitor
[02:41] <cheekee> perlluver: wow! I never expected such an answer. I need to reflect for a moment before I provide an answer to your answer. :-)
[02:41] <roccity_> jeffreyf1, then you should have java installed
[02:41] <firefly2442> rporter: um, can you be a little more specific? you mean it's in cleartext?
[02:41] <roccity_> pymike what about paman
[02:41] <LtL> jeffreyf1: is non-free repo check /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:42] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, im going for the svn trunk i'll let you know if it works
[02:42] <Fish_Kungfu> @boot_loop before you do the SOURCE command, be sure to do a: mysql> USE databaseName first
[02:42] <corp> nickrud it was to plain looking
[02:42] <legendsohai> LtL: but the key is still inside the memory even i had run ssh-add -D
[02:42] <pymike> roccity_: trying
[02:42] <boot_loop> Fish: okay, nice
[02:42] <LtL> legendsohai: how do you execute an ssh session?
[02:42] <rporter> firefly2442: I created a greasemonkey script to log me in to an annoying site that required multiple password fields on the same page so my SSN and PIN number are right now in that js flie
[02:42] <jeffreyf1> roccity_: removed then install again....I'll see if that works
[02:43] <rporter> I assume that's not a smart way to do it
[02:43] <pymike> roccity_: I don't see anything in paman either
[02:43] <roccity_> jeffreyf1, have you restarted firefox?
[02:43] <roccity_> jeffreyf1, or did you have it open when you installed it
[02:43] <legendsohai> LtL: ssh username@myip. Did you meant this?
[02:43] <LtL> legendsohai: and no error message?
[02:44] <saw> 8.10 text disappearz
[02:44] <legendsohai> LtL: Warning: Permanently added 'aix.unix-center.net,211.151.90.162' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[02:44] <firefly2442> rporter: ahh, well you could use some kind of encryption to protect the file/directory
[02:45] <roccity_> pymike I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852822
[02:45] <subone> Someone please help! I am trying to setup s-video output for my laptop but somehow i messed up everything and it will only load into safe graphics mode!
[02:45] <legendsohai> LtL: this is because that machine do not need my key.
[02:45] <saw> how to take video of the screen like the screenshots
[02:45] <LtL> legendsohai: the warning indicates rsa ket change, what happens next?
[02:45] <firefly2442> rporter: if you are worried about other people on the computer reading it you could change the permissions on the file
[02:45] <legendsohai> LtL: so im trying to remove the previous key in ssh-add
[02:45] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, their svn version has no ./configure lol this is retarded
[02:45] <rporter> firefly224: right, not what I'm looking for, I want to emulate the way firefox stores my passwords
[02:45] <Sean74> When I try to run 8.10 Live CD it boots up Busy Box, how can I fix this?
[02:45] <pymike> roccity_: k ill try it
[02:45] <legendsohai> LtL: nothing after, Connection closed by 211.151.90.162
[02:46] <noodlesgc> Ward1983 I have found that drkonqi is only a crash handler
[02:46] <Grell> LtL, i just saved the playlist in amarok and loaded it in audacious
[02:46] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, aha, well ill let you know if it works or not, i found how to build it now
[02:46] <rporter> firefly2442: not worried about that, but it's my SSN, so I want it protected in the case that anything ever happened..
[02:46] <Ward1983> apperantly its a bit different then most things
[02:46] <rporter> Maybe I'm just being paranoid
[02:46] <Ward1983> to build
[02:47] <legendsohai> anybody know is this a bug of ssh agent? how can i fix it?
[02:47] <LtL> legendsohai: try rm ~/ssh/known_hosts you may want to  backup that file then try again
[02:47] <pymike> roccity_: k I did it, logging in/out
[02:47] <LtL> legendsohai: wait
[02:47] <legendsohai> LtL: ok
[02:47] <LtL> legendsohai: try rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[02:47] <roccity_> pymike good luck
[02:47] <noodlesgc> Ward1983 what app is it?
[02:47] <hikenboot> i created a filter and applied it to a folder (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=904712) in evolution
[02:48] <ek> ke onda chiklosos
[02:48] <ek> hi
[02:48] <ek> hello
[02:48] <hikenboot> instead of forwarding the messages it drops my internet connection
[02:48] <LtL> Grell: good idea!
[02:48] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, ktechlab... :s duh
[02:48] <hikenboot> anyone know why that would be happening
[02:48] <legendsohai> LtL: what is the next step should i do?
[02:49] <LtL> legendsohai: try connecting again, accept the key and login
[02:49] <legendsohai> LtL: but this machine machine do not need a key
[02:50] <RonPaul> jumping right in here:  I have a couple of .iso files and I don't have a DVD to burn them to.  I want to mount them then put it on a SD card so i can watch them on my PS3.  But when I mount them they are empty.  The .iso says it's about 1.5GB.  I'm confused.  anyhelp would be great
[02:50] <LtL> legendsohai: youre confusing keys, try it
[02:50] <Arenlor> I have /tmp mounting on /dev/sda3 and I want to change it so that it just mounts in the / partition, how do I go about doing that?
[02:50] <legendsohai> LtL: the key that stored in my memory is used for my another machine.
[02:50] <thehook> is the new version of clamav going to be released for 8.04 ?
[02:50] <ardchoille> thehook: no
[02:51] <thehook> ardchoille: why not?
[02:51] <qalit> hiii all
[02:51] <ardchoille> thehook: the only thing we get are bug fixes and secruity updates once ubuntu is released
[02:51] <noodlesgc> RonPaul do you have any md5's you can verify them to? Also what command are you using to mount them?
[02:51] <LtL> legendsohai: ive never used this add-key youre talking about, the key you accept is for authenticating the remote host to avoid man in the middle attack
[02:52] <Arenlor> ardchoille: that's wrong
[02:52] <jeeves_Moss> how do I mount a NTFS (Vista) drive that went into hibernate from Ubuntu?
[02:52] <legendsohai> LtL: ok, i try it now
[02:52] <myke1> howdy folks i have a huge problem if someone could take the time to help me with
[02:52] <Arenlor> thehook: they may include the new clamav at some time, and it may already be in backports
[02:52] <jeeves_Moss> how do I mount a NTFS (Vista) drive that went into hibernate from Ubuntu?
[02:52] <RonPaul> noodlegc:   what is a md5?  i'm just using the archive mounter in gnome.
[02:52] <cszikszoy> can anyone help me troubleshoot wireless network connection problems?
[02:53] <tmg1|debian> I have a hard drive which this laptop, running the ubuntu livecd cannot see--another laptop couldn't see the hard drive, and the hard driv doesn't boot by itself(the BIOS can't see it)
[02:53] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, what kind of problems?
[02:53] <cszikszoy> I can connect to some wireless networks, but not others (like the one at my house)
[02:53] <thehook> ardchoille: i have a LTS and is going to be using it for a coupl of years (the reasen why i choose LTS) and i get an outdated av, how does that help on security? :P
[02:53] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, are the ones you cannot connect to WPA ?
[02:53] <myke1> i cant get on to ubuntu at all  anymore it freezes as soon as i log in
[02:53] <tmg1|debian> is there anything I can do to see this hard drive?/ get the data off?
[02:53] <cszikszoy> can't connect to wpa or wep at home
[02:53] <ardchoille> thehook: Why do you even bother with av in Linux?
[02:53] <dalton> does anyone know how to change the screen resolution i just installed this OS all i have for resolutions is 800x600 and my screen can handle 1440x900
[02:53] <tmg1|debian> myke1: what did you do last before this started?
[02:53] <Sapote> tmg1|debian: use dd
[02:53] <cszikszoy> but i can connect to wep and wpa at other places
[02:54] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, thats really weird lol
[02:54] <legendsohai> LtL: Im still cant connect to that machine.
[02:54] <RonPaul> i had the same problem.  so i just re-installed ubuntu
[02:54] <pymike> didn't work
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tmg1|debian, If the bios does not pick it up, few tools will be of any use..
[02:54] <cszikszoy> makes no sense, because I have another laptop that connects fine
[02:54] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, what kind of wificard?
[02:54] <Baz_> how do i clear my saved network settings? I am putting network cards into my pc but ubuntu is not recognizing because i think it is expecting the pevious one that was there...
[02:54] <cszikszoy> railink -- eeepc 900
[02:54] <atomic___> dalton: System >> Screen Res
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> cszikszoy, Are you running eeepc or ubuntu
[02:54] <noodlesgc> RonPaul md5 is a method to verify that a file is that same as wherever you got it from. So you are using the gisomount?
[02:54] <myke1> i was trying to update the nvidia driver, now after i log in, the desktop freezes and i have to hard reset
[02:54] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, really weird my friend has a 901 (same hardware?) and he has no problems at all
[02:54] <tmg1|debian> (I was sent here by the disgruntled and possibly jealous debian irc chan). I kind of figure that...I'm just making sure I'm not missing anything
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> cszikszoy, Are you running eeeubuntu ?
[02:55] <cszikszoy> i'm using the array.org kernel, which has support for the railink card built into the kernel
[02:55] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, maybe in eeebuntu they know the problem
[02:55] <legendsohai> LtL: this is my error log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/102510/
[02:55] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, thats what you run right?
[02:55] <dalton> i tried that all i get is 800x600 640x480
[02:55] <Baz_> let me phrase that differently... how do i force ubuntu to redetect my wifi/wireless adapter?
[02:55] <cszikszoy> no, it's intrepid, but I'm using array.org's custom eeepc kernel
[02:55] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, i mean #ubuntu-eeepc
[02:55] <cszikszoy> oh -- ok, thanks
[02:56] <mcarter> How can I specify the user to run the daemon as in an upstart job?
[02:56] <dalton> atomic  i tried that all i get is 800x600 640x480
[02:56] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, (if they cant ask here again btw)
[02:56] <tmg1|debian> dalton: sometimes alt-ctl-shift-+/- to change screenresolution. Or maybe only two of those (alt-shift?)
[02:56] <RonPaul> .
[02:56] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, but they know your hardware better
[02:56] <tmg1|debian> dalton: you may also need better drivers
[02:56] <cszikszoy> alright, thanks Ward1983
[02:56] <RonPaul> noodlesgc:  i'm using archive mounter
[02:56] <LtL> legendsohai: try ssh -l login-name ip-address  ...you need to use a login name the remote allows.
[02:56] <Baz_> whats a better ifi adapter - airlink or trendnet?
[02:56] <myke1> so i dont know how to  get back to the old driver
[02:56] <Ward1983> cszikszoy, no problem, gonna stick aroung there for a moment to listen, should my friend ever have the same problem
[02:56] <myke1> i cant even reinstall
[02:57] <RonPaul> (n00b)
[02:57] <tmg1|debian> also; there's a screen resolutions option in one of the dropdown menus(settings?) from the top left
[02:57] <atomic___> dalton: Try System >> Administration >> hardware drivers?
[02:57] <tmg1|debian> sapote - dd doesn't see the disk, tried that :)
[02:57] <huwenfeng> ﻿ i am using svn under Debian etch. the /home/svn_repo is created by root, and what i want to do is to have a working copy of the repo as another ordinary user. how can i do that?
[02:57] <thehook> ardchoille: cause its a mailserver that is serving a lot of M$ users.. thats why
[02:57] <atomic___> Maybe it needs better video drivers or something...
[02:57] <legendsohai> LtL: did you meant ssh -l user@ip?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> huwenfeng, Wrong channel we dont support debian etch here
[02:57] <jrib> thehook: check bugs.ubuntu.com but my guess is you'll get updates for clam in -updates or -backports
[02:58] <firefly2442> huwenfeng: you mean an svn checkout?
[02:58] <myke1> i cant seem to get back on, the computer keeps freezing
[02:58] <huwenfeng> firefly2442: yes
[02:58] <LtL> legendsohai: try ssh -l login-name -space-  ip-address
[02:58] <myke1> ?anyone know a way to fix it
[02:58] <huwenfeng> i want to checkout the repo as a normol user
[02:58] <thehook> jrib: thanks :)
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> huwenfeng, Wrong channel we dont support debian etch here
[02:58] <legendsohai> LtL: ok
[02:58] <firefly2442> huwenfeng: is it setup with apache too or just svn?
[02:58] <tmg1|debian> huwenfeng: why not just use the url ofthe computer when using svn (like svn svn://localhost/repo checkout ) etc
[02:58] <LtL> legendsohai: both should work. i dont know whats happening
[02:58] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, the SVN one works fine :D
[02:58] <huwenfeng> Jack_Sparrow: no, it is not of debian, but of svn
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> firefly2442, If you want to help him please take it to pm
[02:59] <noodlesgc> RonPaul ok do this open a terminal and type this: sudo mount -t iso9660 <filename.iso> <path> -o loop             And change <filename> to the iso file and <path> to the path you want it mounted.
[02:59] <noodlesgc> Ward1983 nice
[02:59] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, remove ktechlab, then:   sudo apt-get build-dep ktechlab
[02:59] <dalton> ok i just tried that and all it did was make my screen look like it zoomed way in
[02:59] <myke1> i have a question, i cant seem to figure it out
[02:59] <nbeebo> how do i check the size of what a program takes up?
[02:59] <DigitalFiz> anyone ever use devede?
[03:00] <nbeebo> whats that?
[03:00] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, after that just follow: http://ktechlab.org/wiki/index.php?title=Index:Download
[03:00] <Ward1983> noodlesgc, i didnt test much yet though only opened a .circuit file, which failed before
[03:00] <myke1> i cant seem to figure out why my system keeps freezing after the log on screen'
[03:00] <legendsohai> LtL: this is because my old ssh key is added with ssh-add command before, and now I wanna to remove that old key. But I cant remove it by using 'ssh-add -D' command, thats what im wonder
[03:01] <myke1> can anyone help?
[03:01] <tmg1|debian> mcarter: lsb might have instructions. that's as far as I got(i have the same issue I think)
[03:01] <tmg1|debian> (linux standard base)
[03:01] <LtL> legendsohai: in a terminal type 'man ssh-add'  i've never needed it.
[03:01] <myke1> ?huh
[03:01] <legendsohai> LtL: still same result after trying your method, I get "boobooke@aix.unix-center.net's password: Connection closed by 211.151.90.162"
[03:02] <dalton> is there better video drivers out there for a onboard nvidia card
[03:02] <LtL> legendsohai: remove one of the files listed in ssh-add man page is my best guess.
[03:02] <dalton> my screen resolution is mest up
[03:02] <sektor1952> evening
[03:02] <myke1> need help with ubuntu freezing after logon screen
[03:02] <sektor1952> you can install any version of ubuntu from the live cd right and it pulls the files from the net?
[03:02] <mcarter> tmg1|debian, thanks
[03:02] <legendsohai> LtL: yes, tried, but still cant remove. It is a big problem now that cause me cannot connect to other machine that using different keys
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, No
[03:03] <sektor1952> oh
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, livecd installs desktop version of ubuntu intrepid.. if you want the latest
[03:03] <tmg1|debian> myke1: have you tried running 'failsafe' gnome/kde(whichever you use,. probably gnome?)
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, Are you thinking of minimal install?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[03:04] <myke1> yes, same thing happens, in fact i cant even reinstall ubuntu, the same thing happens
[03:04] <exodus_ms> sektor1952: are you asking if all versions of Ubuntu can be installed via their own live cd, and afterwards updates and apllications can be installed ove rthe net?
[03:04] <dalton> ok im a total noob to linux in gereral how can i change my screen resolution i know where to find it but there is nothing i want for resolution its way to low
[03:05] <Marcel157> hello
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, If you tell us what you are wanting to do, we can point you in the right direction
[03:05] <sektor1952> Basically I was wondering if the most recent version of ubuntu can be installed from live cd and if you can do either a server or desktop install
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> Guys, how is the native 64bit flash working out for people? Is it installable?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[03:06] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to "close" a dvd-r in ubuntu?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, livecd installs desktop
[03:06] <myke1> TMG i was wondering if there was a terminal comand that could fix it up, restoring me to my previous config?
[03:06] <Marcel157> alguem do Brasil??
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> Jack_Sparrow: The native :). I am already on nspluginwrapper
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, alternate and server install disks are also available
[03:07] <myke1> tried a bunch of things, and no go
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > Marcel157
[03:07] <sektor1952> Jack_Sparrow: even though it installs desktop you can't install server packages seprately from the net?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, SUre and the other way around
[03:07] <dalton> so no one knows how to change the resolution?
[03:07] <exodus_ms> !xorg
[03:07] <sektor1952> oh ok that's what I wanted to make sure
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[03:08] <LateralLink> Jack_Sparrow, really putting  in your time this evening are ya
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:08] <br3nden> How can I set the maximum number of FTP connections for 1 user?
[03:08] <sektor1952> is there a live cd for the latest version of ubuntu
[03:08] <sektor1952> or just download the desktop cd?
[03:08] <LtL> legendsohai: try ssh-add -d
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !download
[03:08] <exodus_ms> yes, but not for jaunty
[03:09] <nsadmin> probably find out from your ftpd docs
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, livecd is desktop
[03:09] <sektor1952> that's fine
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !releases
[03:09] <Marcel157> #ubuntu-br
[03:09] <legendsohai> LtL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102513/
[03:10] <LtL> legendsohai: now try connecting using whichever method you have used.
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Marcel157,   /join #ubuntu-br
[03:10] <sektor1952> and the server cd is text only correct?
[03:10] <Marcel157> ok
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sektor1952, alternate is text install as well
[03:11] <exodus_ms> sektor1952: have you checked any of the links posted thus far?
[03:11] <thebigham> hey is it possible to make turn off the laptop screen when i plug in an external display by it self?
[03:11] <sektor1952> yes
[03:11] <myke1> nope, that didnt work, i still freeze at the  desktop'
[03:11] <Barridus> argh, what's the irc command to list all the sub-servers so you can pick one that's more local?
[03:11] <smkeesle> I have a g3 imac that I can't get xorg config
[03:12] <smkeesle> ATI r128 card
[03:12] <LtL> Barridus: it used to be /map but irc admins removed that from users.
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> smkeesle, is that ppc?
[03:12] <smkeesle> yep
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[03:13] <smkeesle> better irc channel for it?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> smkeesle, That is community supported since edgy.. NOt sure what channel they use.have
[03:13] <shogbin> Well, I get a connection but just a trickle of data gets sent and received over the dialup.
[03:13] <shogbin> Very odd.
[03:13] <LtL> Barridus: try the homepage of the IRC net you want, they might list servers.
[03:13] <Barridus> LtL, thanks - i actually wanted it for another server (that i can't always log into) - so that's sound advice thanks
[03:13] <LtL> Barridus: otherwise its on the round-robin
[03:14] <shogbin> I plugged into an eth through dsl to chat but I do need this pppd connection to work.
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> smkeesle, /join #Ubuntu-ppc
[03:14] <myke1> failsafe gnome does not work
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> myke1, trying for fresh install?
[03:15] <myke1> i cant do a fresh install the screen freezes up
[03:15] <myke1> i tried :(
[03:15] <LtL> shogbin: shouldn't need pppd on dsl
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> myke1, To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[03:15] <Tr1kZ> :o
[03:15] <thebigham> when i plug in an external display, is there a way to automatically switch from the laptop display to the external display. and just use the external display.
[03:16] <myke1> ok will give that a try sparrow
[03:18] <samanddeanus> help
[03:18] <samanddeanus> hello
[03:18] <a-t> hey guys
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[03:18] <LtL> samanddeanus: you have the floor, speak :)
[03:18] <a-t> how can i disable ubuntu to mount my window partition
[03:18] <a-t> not to be there at all
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, edit fstab
[03:19] <samanddeanus> edit /etc/fstab
[03:19] <samanddeanus> to keep ubuntu from mounting Windows
[03:19] <myke1> no sparrow, its a no-go. frozen at the live cd desktop :(
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> myke1, did you do md5 or the self test
[03:20] <a-t> well what command i got to remove
[03:20] <Diehardy> Hi peeps, I need help with my Eee PC running ubuntu 8.10
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> myke1, Is this a HP or a Dell
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, /join #ubuntu-eee
[03:20] <Diehardy> okay
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, Or are you running our version
[03:20] <samanddeanus> umount to unmount a drive
[03:20] <myke1> custom build
[03:20] <Diehardy> what do you mean our version?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> myke1, We support OUR release, not your custom builds
[03:21] <myke1> i've been running ubuntu 8.04 just fine for several months on this machine
[03:21] <samanddeanus> a-t: remove the line which has ntfs-3g
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, eeepc has its own version tailored to their hardware
[03:21] <samanddeanus> a-t: from /etc/fstab
[03:21] <firefly2442> Diehardy: I use the array.org kernel , works well for me
[03:21] <Diehardy> which is?
[03:22] <myke1> eh? this is the standard 8.04 ubuntu
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> samanddeanus, he could also just set it to noauto right
[03:22] <a-t> there is nothing
[03:22] <a-t> there with ntfs-3g
[03:22] <myke1> i ment my machine is a custum build
[03:22] <Diehardy> I'm a noob when it comes to Linux
[03:22] <samanddeanus> what does it have in /etc/fstab
[03:22] <LtL> a-t: put a '#' sign at the beginning of the ntfs filesystem line to  comment it out.
[03:22] <baldur> ed
[03:22] <a-t> how can i show you?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> myke1, Ah.. k...  what mb and video
[03:22] <Diehardy> I've ony been using Linux for a few months, on this Eee PC that I got for fifty bucks.
[03:22] <Diehardy> I like it but I just need to work out some kinks
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[03:23] <Diehardy> It came with its own built in webcam and mic, but for some reason they stopped working.
[03:23] <elverig> Hello I am a newbie I have ubuntu 8.10 I pressed some keys on the keyboard and my theme went crazy, any ideas of how to fix it?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, np, but just a hint.. eee will already know most of the tricks needed to get your hardware going the way you want
[03:24] <firefly2442> Diehardy: /join #eeepc is another good channel
[03:24] <huwenfeng> firefly2442: hi, you are backup no
[03:24] <Diehardy> Ok, I'm new here too.
[03:24] <samanddeanus> to change the theme go to System -> Preferences -> appearance
[03:24] <pedahzur> I'm fighting with IPSEC and racoon.  Any battle hardened veterns here able to help me trouble shoot issues?
[03:24] <MaT-dg> trying to install crossover but it says the following: "'/home/<username>' must exist and belong to you in order for the installation to proceed."
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, If you shift ctrl V     that line into a terminal it will return a url with the info we need
[03:24] <exodus_ms> Does irssi create log files by default? Or will this command work for creating log files /LOG OPEN -targets #ubuntu ~/irclogs/linx/linux-%%y-%%m-%%-d
[03:25] <elverig> samanddeanus: Do you happen to know the keyboard shortcut
[03:25] <a-t> hahaa ok i don't know how to pastebinit
[03:25] <a-t> :)
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, Just paste that line into a terminal
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, It will do all the work
[03:26] <Diehardy> Jack Sparrow, I can't find the channel for Eee
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc
[03:26] <bbbs> hmmm there is no su. i don't want to type sudo everytime. how can i login as root in my terminal
[03:26] <samanddeanus> sudo -s
[03:26] <a-t> http://pastebin.com/faff32cf
[03:27] <a-t> thanks jack_sparrow
[03:27] <bbbs> ty
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, /join #ubuntu-eeepc
[03:28] <Diehardy> Yeah I think I found it thanks, Jack
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, Ok, so it isnt in there so we need to see what drive partition it is with..   sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[03:28] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[03:28] <VolVE> well that was weird
[03:29] <Baz_> hi
[03:29] <RonPaul> what's with the bot???
[03:29] <paulandsara> d
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> RonPaul, Just protecting the users here
[03:29] <jp_sf> RonPaul: Spammer ...
[03:29] <nbeebo> im thinking about having some motherboards and stuff in my aquarium, would the fish die? lol (asking this once because im banned at #ubuntu-offtopic.. lol)
[03:29]  * firefly2442 shakes fist at them
[03:30] <RonPaul> ah OK i was getting...confused
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> nbeebo, You know better than to ask here.. but yes. bad idea
[03:30] <nbeebo> thats lame
[03:30] <paulandsara> i have 2 question it may be because im dumb and do not know linux that well or because i couldnt find them in the faq
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> nbeebo, You know better than to ask here.. but yes. bad idea...
[03:31] <paulandsara> could someone help me
[03:31] <nbeebo> still lame
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[03:31] <MrObvious> !ask | paulandsara
[03:31] <a-t> http://pastebin.com/f53a339d9
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, ty
[03:31] <alex87> any ideas why my computer freezes just before my laptop fan turns on?
[03:31] <markpee> hii
[03:31] <MrObvious> Sheez the bots are busy tonight. :\
[03:31] <paulandsara> well i looked thru the faq
[03:31] <markpee> why is ubuntu so unstable ??
[03:32] <MHz128> How do I save YouTube or other web video's to HD, using Ubuntu of course... ?
[03:32] <a-t> thank you jack_sparrow
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, sda1 is the drive you dont want to have seen or mounted right
[03:32] <jrib> MHz128: keepvid.com
[03:32] <a-t> yes
[03:32] <nsadmin> markpee: specifics, what's your exact problem
[03:32] <MHz128> jrib, cool
[03:32] <JoshHill> Anyone know why FTP connections would max out at 40KB/sec, as though there was a cap? This is on computers on my LAN and also the internet. Disabled IPv6 because I've read that may cause throughput problems. Tried several different FTP clients as well. Upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and the problem was still there. My other computers with Ubuntu transfer fine. The problem is only there with FTP...SFTP or any other protocol works fine
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> markpee, Please dont troll and ask a question if you have one
[03:32] <noodlesgc> MHz128 I would try using a download helper firefox addon
[03:32] <jp_sf> alex87: if you rfan goes up means the CPU is getting hot if your cpu is getting it is because it overused, therefore this is why your system freeze (at least it could be)
[03:32] <paulandsara> im having trouble with the use of my graphics card it will not let me play city of heroes becuaes of some sort of pixel problem
[03:32] <markpee> nsadmin, firefox and other programs like Amarok are crashing a lot
[03:33] <sschaefer> #sydney
[03:33] <alex87> jp_sf, it only locks up the mouse for a second, but the fan turns off after 5 seconds and does this about once a minute
[03:33] <samanddeanus> quit
[03:33] <markpee> im not troll
[03:33] <MaT-dg> alex87: Guess your computer doesn't freez before the fan turns on but the fan turns on after your computer freezes -> program bringin your core(s) to 100% making them very hot
[03:33] <markpee> I dont understand why everything crashes so often
[03:34] <alex87> MaT-dg, that's possible, i'll put a monitor on
[03:34] <markpee> i have a 1.7GHZ dual core with 2GB of RAM
[03:34] <a-t> Jack_sparrow i'm ready when u are
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> markpee, what changes have you made to sources.. or added manually
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, Gimme a minute or two
[03:34] <a-t> sure
[03:34] <MHz128> jrib, how do  I use it?
[03:35] <markpee> i tried to install flash / java manually
[03:35] <markpee> and printer driver
[03:35] <markpee> thats about it
[03:35] <franklin> mat-dg what do you talking about..shit
[03:35] <jrib> MHz128: should be pretty obvious.  It's a website, you put the youtube url in the box and press "go" or whatever
[03:35] <nsadmin> markpee and were things more stable before you did that?
[03:35] <help_plz> Hello, does anyone have experience with using airsnort?
[03:36] <MaT-dg> franklin: what? :|
[03:36] <markpee> no i dont think so nsadmin
[03:37] <jp_sf> alex87: there is a program called sensors via lm_sensors
[03:37] <sschaefer> #quit
[03:37] <Geemy> can anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I can't see anything in my 'Place/Network/Windows Network' it's just empty
[03:37] <alex87> jp_sf, yeah? just using the gnome-panel sensor i can see cpu spikes before it freezes
[03:38] <alex87> jp_sf, how can i check what program is causing the cpu spike?
[03:38] <_dean> top
[03:38] <jp_sf> alex87: finding the root cause might be a little harder the gnome-pannel use the lm_sensors I would monitor with sar to check any spike of activity
[03:39] <alex87> jp_sf, ah ok, thanks
[03:39] <jp_sf> alex87: try to do a top as well to see what is causing the 100% cpu usage
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, I dint forget you, it is just an unusual request and I want to get it right for you
[03:39] <a-t> ok thanks
[03:39] <jp_sf> alex87: sar is coming in the sysutils package a graphical version is ksar a Java programm
[03:40] <WebcamWonder> Umm, for installing nVidia drivers from their site, I just sh the installer right?
[03:40] <alex87> jp_sf, cheers
[03:40] <markpee> nsadmin, ?
[03:40] <nickrud> markpee, could you put a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu.com ? gotta start somewhere
[03:40] <tokyoahead> guys when I have two screens on the same card, do I enter the screen to the device or the serverlayout in xorg.conf?
[03:40] <Geemy> If anyone can help me with a network issue, please PM me
[03:40] <Baz_> i am having a really strange problem with a wfi card - hen i run $lshw -C network, I see my RaLink 802.11n wireless card, but the nm-applet has no clue about it... how can I check that drivers are properly installed or that it is active or force an ip or something without nm-applet?
[03:40] <a-t> just pm jack_sparrow when u get it ok thanks
[03:41] <jp_sf> Geemy: what is your network issue
[03:41] <TheFunkbomb> Hello new friends
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, Do you use  any ntfs or fat flash drives etc?
[03:41] <Geemy> I can't see anything in my 'Place/Network/Windows Network' it's just empty
[03:41] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: iwconfig in a terminal to see if it can pick your wireless card
[03:41] <jp_sf> Geemy: you have windows computer on your lan ?
[03:42] <Geemy> jp_sf: yes
[03:42] <jp_sf> Geemy: can you ping them ?
[03:42] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: thank you for your help! it says 'no wireless extensiuos'
[03:42] <tripchronic> is there a ubuntu equivilant for character map?
[03:42] <Geemy> I'll try, one sec
[03:42] <_dean> join #ubuntu yes
[03:42] <jp_sf> Geemy: their firewall is down ? not blocking netbios request ?
[03:42] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: ifconfig, and see if your wireless card is even picked up
[03:42] <_dean> tripchronic: gucharmap
[03:42] <markpee> nickrud, it says permission denied
[03:42] <softdav> hola
[03:43] <tripchronic> _dean thank you, does it support hot keying, like ALT + 0131
[03:43] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: all it has is lo
[03:43] <a-t> yes i have another external hard drive
[03:43] <a-t> but i use that when i only need it
[03:43] <nickrud> markpee,  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , copy the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:43] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: That means your wireless card isn't picked up properly
[03:43] <nickrud> markpee, then give me the url
[03:43] <_dean> tripchronic: yes ctrl-shift-u, unicode
[03:43] <a-t> and i got flash drive as well
[03:44] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: i had another card in there before, but it was causing me problems so i bought this one and put it in its place - the next time i tried to boot ubuntu it took very long
[03:44] <tripchronic> _dean thanks
[03:44] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1017427
[03:44] <Geemy> jp_sf: pinging the windows pc returned 100%
[03:44] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: Apparently, the card is not directly supported under Ubuntu
[03:44] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: i have a feeling that if i re-install ubuntu it will detect it ok - is there a way to achieve the equivalent - kind of like uninstall then re-install in windows device manager?
[03:45] <TheFunkbomb> I have a quick question
[03:45] <markpee> nickrud, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/102529/
[03:45] <Geemy> jp_sf: checking firewall
[03:45] <TheFunkbomb> earlier, someone told me about a program I can run that will let me switch back and forth between windows and ubuntu
[03:45] <TheFunkbomb> I can't remember what it's called
[03:45] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: The thing is, your drivers aren't even loaded. And there isn't a uninstall, b/c in Windows all it does is remove previous cached information of the driver, and brings it offline
[03:46] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: Do you see your wireless under Hardware Drivers as Restricted Drivers?
[03:46] <jp_sf> Geemy: if you can ping them their firewall is mostlikely down
[03:47] <MaT-dg> TheFunkbomb: A virtual machine?
[03:47] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: no, just a suggestion to install an updated nvidia - which i would had i an internet connection
[03:47] <TheFunkbomb> yes
[03:47] <nickrud> markpee, ok, you have sorta bad ones, we'll fix that first.   cd /etc/apt , sudo mv sources.list sources.list.saved , then In System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (hardy-security) and (hardy-updates).
[03:47] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: thing is i went to fry's today and bought every wireless n card they had
[03:47] <Geemy> jp_sf: the windows firewall was enabled, I just turned it off
[03:47] <markpee> nickrud, how did i get bad lines ?
[03:47] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: I think you need to download the drivers from RaLink's site and hten compile them yourself
[03:47] <jp_sf> Geemy: ah ok that could block the share thingy
[03:48] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: after this airlink (which i ws told is very linux compatible) i tried a trendnet  - the issue is the same
[03:48] <pjotr> TheFunkbomb: virtualbox, wmvare
[03:48] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: oh i am on 64bit, if that matters
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, Im still working.. sorry for the delay..
[03:48] <MaT-dg> TheFunkbomb: Xen, virtualbox, vmware,...
[03:48]  * jp_sf is wondering a windows firewall on and you can ping them hum ...
[03:48] <TheFunkbomb> pjotr, does that allow me to log into actual windows or is it like WINE?
[03:48] <nickrud> markpee, sometime or another the repo you were using failed, Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:48] <Geemy> jp_sf: I just checked the 'Place/Network/Windows Network' it's still empty
[03:48] <a-t> it's ok take your time
[03:49] <Baz_> any idea if airlink or trendnet is better? (wifi)
[03:49] <jp_sf> Geemy: on windows it is windows XP ?
[03:49] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: Sorry, I have no clue. The only wireless I have used on Linux is the one I am currentyl running, onboard broadcom
[03:49] <Geemy>  jp_sf: yes sir
[03:50] <markpee> nickrud, it says no such file or directory
[03:50] <pjotr> TheFunkbomb, you install the whole operating system and run it 'inside a program'
[03:50] <TheFunkbomb> oh
[03:50] <markpee> for sources.list
[03:50] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: ah, ok... what about the fact that the trendnet wasn't detected either - seems kinda unlikely no?
[03:50] <jp_sf> Geemy: on ubuntu you are on 8.10 ?
[03:50] <TheFunkbomb> so this isn't something I run it inside ubuntu
[03:50] <nickrud> markpee, then you've got a typo (dang, another socal earthquake)
[03:50] <Geemy> jp_sf: yes sir
[03:50] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: Depends entirely on the chipset being used on the card. Some have excellent support, some not so much
[03:51] <gustavo> is there a program to burn dvds from avi format
[03:51] <noodlesgc> gustavo try devede.
[03:51] <pjotr> TheFunkbomb, yes it is, or as I do with wmvare, i ran ubuntu inside xp
[03:51] <softdav> hola a todos
[03:51] <TheFunkbomb> oh cool
[03:51] <gustavo> ok
[03:51] <MaT-dg> TheFunkbomb: yes you do, a virtual machine is a program that creates virtual hardware so the OS (windows in your case) thinks it runs on a real computer
[03:52] <GMWeezel> how do i change my system's domain name. i changed it in setup but cant figure out how now
[03:52] <norcim122> anyone know how to fix a kubuntu install?
[03:52] <TheFunkbomb> thanks guys.  let me go check this out
[03:52] <Geemy> jp_sf: FYI this is my 3rd day using Linux
[03:52] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: it really feels like the networking needs to be restarted or forced to redetect - is there no way to do that?
[03:52] <WebcamWonder> Guys, does anyone know if the latest 180 drivers from nVidia will work on Hardy?
[03:52] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:52] <markpee> do you disable the CD-rom
[03:52] <jp_sf> Geemy: ok if you click on Places then on Network then on the windows icon is still empty ?
[03:53] <norcim122> me?
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: But that only restarts the networking, not redetects it
[03:53] <solid_liq> WebcamWonder: they should.  You'll just have to try and see ;)
[03:53] <nickrud> markpee, yes
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> solid_liq: Ouch, that sounds bad
[03:53] <markpee> nickrud how ?
[03:53] <MaT-dg> TheFunkbomb: you have to install it like you would on a real computer and you even need a legal *cough* liscence for windows
[03:53] <codeshah> hi guys, I am wondering how i can test my microphone in ubuntu... it is a built in microphone .
[03:53] <solid_liq> WebcamWonder: no, I mean, it really should
[03:53] <Geemy> jp_sf: yes it is still empty
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> solid_liq: :).. I know
[03:53] <markpee> i ticked the other 4
[03:53] <TheFunkbomb> MaT-dg, I see that
[03:53] <TheFunkbomb> lol
[03:53] <nickrud> markpee, by unchecking the cdrom listings on the Ubuntu Software tab
[03:53] <norcim122> anyone know how to create a user   with root text only
[03:53] <solid_liq> WebcamWonder: no reason not to try it
[03:54] <markpee> there is no box though
[03:54] <TheFunkbomb> I'll stick with how I have it set up now
[03:54] <WebcamWonder> And does anyone know if I install nVidia drivers myself, would dkms kick in on every kernel upgrade?
[03:54] <TheFunkbomb> .
[03:54] <markpee> for CD Rom
[03:54] <MindVirus> How do I print 10 lines before and 10 lines after a certain line grepped in a text file?
[03:54] <markpee> it just says "installable from CD ROm"
[03:55] <nickrud> markpee, then you're good to go.
[03:55] <markpee> ok
[03:55] <nickrud> markpee, for the cdrom, that is
[03:55] <norcim122> anyone know how to install startx   in kubuntu... or what is the kubuntu desktop name
[03:55] <markpee> ok so what now ?
[03:55] <jp_sf> Geemy: I think you need the smbfs
[03:55] <wolter> hi
[03:55] <jp_sf> Geemy: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[03:55] <wolter> need help with my touchpad in ibex. its unusable.
[03:56] <Diehardy> Ubuntu was made by a South African
[03:56] <wolter> also with my video card. Two cards appear at the Hardware Drivers tool, and don
[03:56] <norcim122> wolter:  you have kubuntu?
[03:56] <MindVirus> wolter, Google "synaptics"
[03:56] <wolter> i dont know if it is that i have two or what
[03:56] <wolter> no, in ibex...
[03:56] <nickrud> markpee, be sure to use my nick in your replies; I may miss them otherwise.  Close the software sources, then  type   sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:56] <pjotr> norcim122, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[03:56] <wolter> ubuntu i mean
[03:56] <wolter> MindVirus: to get what?
[03:57] <norcim122> pjotr: I have to use chroot to get into it... will try
[03:57] <Geemy> jp_sf: "smbfs is already the newest version."
[03:57] <gustavo> noodlesgc: any other program i try devede but is not working
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, Sorry, I cnat find any option to do that.. but if you ask me tomorrow I may figure out a way
[03:57] <MindVirus> wolter, you should find what you need on Google. It's a driver for the touchpad; also, google your specific issue and add "synaptics"; it will enrich your results.
[03:57] <norcim122> pjotr: install failed at very last steps... seting up users
[03:58] <noodlesgc> gustavo you could try qdvdauthor, but I found it a bit complicated.
[03:58] <markpee> nickrud, i have done that
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, NO it was not
[03:58] <markpee> nothing happend
[03:58] <Diehardy> yes it was
[03:58] <Diehardy> Dont lie to the people Sparrow
[03:58] <nickrud> markpee, you should have downloaded and installed a bunch of packages.   put the sources.list back on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <jp_sf> Geemy: the only I know to connect to a windows box is to mount the folder by creating a mount point giving the credentials I don't know how to use the graphical thingy
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Diehardy, Show any supporting evidence
[03:58] <Diehardy> Go to wikipedia
[03:58] <gustavo> noodlesgc: where do i get it
[03:59] <norcim122> pjotr:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   .. asks me to install /cdrom/   I have no drive
[03:59] <a-t> ok thanks jack_sparrow
[03:59] <Diehardy> and type in your precious Ubuntu
[03:59] <a-t> hey Jack_sparrow is it good to use tor in ubuntu?
[03:59] <a-t> should i loose security in ubuntu if i use tor anybody know?
[03:59] <norcim122> anyone?
[04:00] <MindVirus> a-t, should you what security?
[04:00] <wolter> and what about my graphic cards? Two appear on the Hardware Drivers, but I think I only have one. Also, the two appear needing different drivers; when I enable one, the other one is disabled.
[04:00] <TheFunkbomb> so, can anyone tell me some good apps to install for a very very very new person?
[04:00] <norcim122> anyone know?     sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   .. asks me to install /cdrom/   I have no drive
[04:00] <Geemy> jp_sf: I'm willing to try that, can you point me to the info?
[04:00] <noodlesgc> gustavo it should be in the repository. you can get it with: sudo apt-get install qdvdauthor
[04:00] <pjotr> norcim122, how did you install in the first place? Comment out cdrom from /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:00] <DiiPhantom> i lost sound while running an application, how can i restore it?
[04:00] <norcim122> from usb
[04:00] <a-t> well if i install and use tor in ubuntu u know how ubuntu is secure as op should i be this much secure if i use tor in ubuntu
[04:00] <jp_sf> !samba | Geemy
[04:00] <gustavo> noodlesgc: cool thanks
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[04:01] <norcim122> pjotr: actually I used a netinstall with alternate cd
[04:01] <jp_sf> Geemy: Read that but also I'm gonna tell you how I do it
[04:01] <markpee> nickrud, there is only one line left now
[04:01] <norcim122> pjotr:  can I mount an iso and use that?
[04:01] <nickrud> markpee, then you didn't do the instructions I gave you, I'll do it again:
[04:01] <jp_sf> Geemy, first I create an entry into my hosts file in /etc/hosts with the ip and the name of the machine
[04:02] <nickrud> !hardysources | markpee
[04:02] <afallenhope> !java
[04:02] <a-t> well lot of people tell me that runing ubuntu is good because i don't need virus software or firewall now if i use tor am i safe?
[04:02] <a-t> that's my question
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, yes, very safe
[04:02] <jp_sf> Geemy: then I create a folder when I will mount it by doing sudo mkdir /mnt/data
[04:02] <pjotr> norcim122, try it. I think it should work
[04:02] <a-t> even using tor and privoxy jack_sparrow
[04:02] <norcim122> ufw is available a-t
[04:03] <Seracht> hey
[04:03] <a-t> norcim122 whats ufw?
[04:03] <hobbes006> hi guys, when i launch a window using "zenity", is there any way to make it focus? as in, "above other existing windows" ?
[04:03] <norcim122> pjotr: ok then how do mount it from cmd prompt?
[04:03] <norcim122> ubuntu firewall
[04:03] <Seracht> anyone here know if open office can be configured with a nicer looking UI
[04:03] <WebcamWonder_> solid_liq: Haha. That broke my X
[04:03] <gaintsura> yar it never phails
[04:04] <jp_sf> Geemy: then I have to add in my fstab how I will mount it in /etc/fstab //windowsmachinename/share /mnt/data cifs exec, credentials=/etc/cifspw 0 0
[04:04] <gaintsura> just get settled into the new kernel and out comes a new one
[04:04] <norcim122> get gufw instead
[04:04] <solid_liq> WebcamWonder_: you may need to use modprobe to remove the old nvidia driver, or just reboot
[04:04] <pjotr> norcim122, I have no idea... maybe someone else can help
[04:04] <a-t> ufw is command firewall?
[04:04] <a-t> should i run this even with tor?
[04:04] <jp_sf> Geemy: in /etc/cifspw I put the login and password with username=Domain\foo password=bar
[04:05] <WebcamWonder_> solid_liq: I never had an old one. And I rebooted, apparently, it just broke it. The driver refused to load, and the screen flickered every 5 seconds
[04:05] <a-t> do i have to configure it or just run it default
[04:05] <norcim122> a-t: use add/remove to install it
[04:05] <jp_sf> Geemy: then you mount all the share by using mount -a
[04:05] <RediXe> How do I remove mysql? I ran sudo apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.0   yet mysqld was still running so I did killall mysqld and yet still when I run mysql -p it tries to connect (fails with an error that I am trying to reinstall to fix)
[04:05] <WebcamWonder_> WebcamWonder_: Well, back to nv
[04:05] <jp_sf> Geemy: that's it
[04:05] <a-t> norcim122 it's allready installed
[04:05] <RediXe> Client?
[04:05] <a-t> when i type ufw it's saying it's not on
[04:05] <phoenix_> hi
[04:05] <solid_liq> WebcamWonder_: well, time to start diagnosing it ;)
[04:05] <norcim122> you see it in taskbar?
[04:06] <RediXe> yeah that was it ><
[04:06] <nickrud> RediXe, sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.0
[04:06] <a-t> no
[04:06] <phoenix_> anyone know where can i find free hosting but with .exe files allowed?
[04:06] <RediXe> nickrud: apt-get purge was working - I just forgot to uninstall the mysql-client-5.0
[04:06] <WebcamWonder_> solid_liq: That is so weird. my dmesg says that the client has version of 73 (:S What the heck?) and the nVidia version is 180?
[04:06] <nickrud> RediXe, nm, purge was added to apt when I wasn't looking
[04:06] <norcim122> go to admin.. >Firewall Config.
[04:06] <TheFunkbomb> I really don't see why I installed ubuntu :(
[04:06] <TonyMontana> Hello
[04:07] <WebcamWonder_> solid_loiq: Version 71, sorry
[04:07] <a-t> only have two stars is it any good :)
[04:07] <TonyMontana> Oh no my name was changed
[04:07] <a-t> what's the best firewall for ubuntu
[04:07] <WebcamWonder_> a-t: iptables
[04:07] <Seracht> i have a quick question about theming in ubunut. What is the difference between a compwiz theme, emerald theme and GTK theme
[04:07] <Seracht> *ubuntu
[04:07] <norcim122> can anyone help me mount iso from cmd prompt?
[04:07] <Geemy> jp_sf: omg I'm a retard, I just realized I had firestarter ( I installed it following another tutorial on getting WoW running :p ) running, when I turned it off I could see the windows computer, do you know if theres a port I need to keep open?
[04:07] <pjotr>  a-t, man iptables
[04:08] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: Emerald themes can only be loaded to the program named "Emerald" previously known as Beryl. They are window decorations
[04:08] <jp_sf> Geemy: ah a firewall, yeah I would keep 445 and 139
[04:08] <a-t> hmm is that command :) software too
[04:08] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: GTK themes are themes from buttons, srollbars, etc. They also bring in Window Decorations some times
[04:08] <Seracht> cool
[04:08] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: And Compiz Theme? Never heard of that one
[04:08] <Seracht> so GTK is more complete?
[04:08] <Seracht> GTK themes sorry
[04:08] <scompt> how can I mount an ext3 so that permissions are ignored?
[04:09] <breathsOf10> what is finch?
[04:09] <Seracht> and WebcamWonder_ I meant compiz
[04:09] <Seracht> compiz themes
[04:09] <markpee> nickrud
[04:09] <crdlb> any "gtk theme" which includes window decorations really just has a metacity theme
[04:09] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: Depends. Emerald gives you much more flexibility than GTK-decorator. But yes, GTK themes would be "complete"
[04:09] <markpee> i need to restrat
[04:09] <markpee> then i will be back to paste
[04:09] <nickrud> markpee, ok
[04:09] <Seracht> is compiz == emerald?
[04:09] <WebcamWonder_> Alright guys, I installed nVidia driver from their website, now how do I get about removing it
[04:09] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: NOOOO
[04:10] <norcim122> can anyone help me mount iso from cmd prompt?
[04:10] <jp_sf> Geemy: 137 to 139 are for NEtbios so I'm not sure
[04:10] <hobbes006> erm. maybe let me rephrase my question... when i launch an application from terminal, e.g. "firefox" how do i let it automatically focus on firefox?
[04:10] <jp_sf> Geemy: 445 for sure maybe just 445
[04:10] <Seracht> oh
[04:10] <a-t> Jack_sparrow can i pm u please
[04:10] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: Compiz = Fancy effects. Emerald = Window Border
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> a-t, yes and thaks for asking
[04:11] <sum1> Yo I want to remove swfdec in firefox & try gnash. How can I remove the plugin?
[04:11] <pppoe_dude> any ideas why sound would stop working apparently randomly in ubuntu? system bell still works, but that's about it
[04:11] <sum1> nevermind
[04:12] <phrostbite> If I install windows xp medica center edition on a partition can I still access my media folder thats with ubuntu?
[04:12] <sum1> yea
[04:12] <phrostbite> How would I do that?
[04:12] <Seracht> hmm
[04:12] <Seracht> is htere a channel where I can link themes and get some help on implementing something like that on my computer
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> !themes
[04:13] <WebcamWonder_> Seracht: What do you mean exactly?
[04:13] <StanManCan> Hey... I want to get ubuntu running as a server but I'm a huge noob... Just don't want to use windows though. How hard it is to configure Ubuntu Server to be a file/web/mailserver ???
[04:13] <TheFunkbomb> so what's a simple program that I can throw on my external hdd and run on ubuntu?  something simple that doesn't require the internet?
[04:14] <WebcamWonder_> StanManCan: !LAMP | StanManCan
[04:14] <_Cid> StanManCan: getting it up and running is very easy, works right out of the box ...knowing what to do with it might take you some time though :-)
[04:14] <WebcamWonder_> !LAMP | StanManCan
[04:14] <TheFunkbomb> !apps
[04:14] <TheFunkbomb> well, that answers that
[04:14] <Seracht> aww he left
[04:14] <StanManCan> Is therea ny harm in installing ubuntu desktop and using it as a server ???
[04:15] <Seracht> but ActionParsnip I found a theme on ubuntuforums that I want to implement. I suppose I can just ask the guy himself :)
[04:15] <sum1> its fine for development
[04:15] <_Cid> StanManCan: nah ... go ahead, not as a secure a setup..but it works - great for getting to know things
[04:15] <d0htem> i need help setting up sshd on desktop install. 8.10
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Seracht: depends what its a theme for
[04:16] <StanManCan> _Cid: Cool. And it will be just the same to setup to make all the services run on boot??
[04:16] <markpee> nickrud what was the command i need to type again ?
[04:16] <Seracht> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=98668&d=1231071844
[04:16] <Seracht> that's a screenshot of it
[04:16] <_Cid> StanManCan:  desktop/server is the same OS, just how the packages are configured, you can make a desktop install act as a server...or vice versa :P
[04:16] <pjotr> StanManCan, http://howtoforge.org/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[04:16] <nickrud> markpee, for which step? You completed the software sources dialog box phase?
[04:16] <StanManCan> lol
[04:16] <StanManCan> lol
[04:16] <StanManCan> lol
[04:16] <FloodBot3> StanManCan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <markpee> yes
[04:17] <markpee> i downloaded and installed programs nickrud
[04:17] <StanManCan> whoops, horrible place to have a horrible bind
[04:17] <markpee> and rebooted
[04:17] <StanManCan> sorry!
[04:17] <_Cid> :-) wb, heh
[04:17] <markpee> nickrud, i just need to paste again
[04:17] <nickrud> markpee, run sudo apt-get upgrade one more time then
[04:17] <markpee> ok
[04:18] <phrostbite> If I install windows xp medica center edition on a partition can I still access my media folder thats with ubuntu?
[04:18] <markpee> ok done
[04:18] <_Cid> StanManCan: just get one thing working at the time - running a server can be quite fun ..at least I think so ...... humm.... did that come across sd?
[04:18] <d0htem> someone plz pm me , i need simple help setting up openssh-server
[04:18] <nickrud> markpee, now gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , and copy to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <ussvoyager> hello ubuntu fans
[04:19] <Mike0220> How would I be able to use what I hear from my computer as my input volume in Intrepid? For example if I were playing a song from my computer while in a Skype conversation, how would the person on the other line hear what I hear from my computer?
[04:19] <markpee> is 3
[04:19] <markpee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102538/
[04:19] <jp_sf> d0htem: whet is the problem with your ssh ?
[04:19] <jp_sf> d0htem, what
[04:19] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: the 4th one was the charm - a dlink dwa-542 works. The original one i wanted was a dlink dwa-552 - the Xtreme version of the former and it worked perfectly but after a few mins my entire OS, mouse, keyboard would just freeze - should i file a bug report or something?
[04:19] <nickrud> markpee, ok, those are good, you have updated to latest stuff. Work your system, see how it is.
[04:20] <markpee> ok
[04:20] <markpee> nickrud:  thank you for your help today
[04:20] <nickrud> markpee, hope it all goes well
[04:20] <d0htem> nothing ive just installed it for the first time. i know if i ssh localhost it will ask me for a pw or w.e. but what do i really need to do to setup a good password or key auth on my priv class c network.
[04:20] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: I would recommend you do. But then you must be prepared to give all the output they ask. dmesg, and everything :)
[04:21] <donavan__> anyone know why my CTRL key doesnt do anything when I try and select multiple files ... the key works otherwise just not when select files
[04:21] <WhiteLacePinkVas> ubuntu 7.04 millenium edition
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> donavan__: does it create an event inxev?
[04:21] <Baz_> WebcamWonder: ok cool, thanks for the help
[04:21] <dexi> dudeeee SuSE sucks so bad
[04:21] <d0htem> agreed
[04:21] <WebcamWonder> Baz_: No problems
[04:21] <norcim122> anyone know how to mount an iso?
[04:21] <WhiteLacePinkVas> in ubuntu?
[04:21] <norcim122> yes
[04:21] <donavan__> actionparsnip: dont know how do I check ... just type inxev?
[04:22] <sum1> .............FreeBSD is the best of all, lets be honest
[04:22] <WhiteLacePinkVas> just burn it to disk
[04:22] <d0htem> bsd...
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> Guys, I installed the nVidia drivers manually from their website. What is the best method to clean up and uninstall and remove everything?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> norcim122: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom0
[04:22] <Diehardy> so is there like a chatroom for wrestling fans here on XCHAT?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> sum1: best doesnt exist
[04:22] <dexi> norcim122: i dont know if they make mount programs for linux
[04:22] <norcim122> ActionParsnip: doesn't work
[04:22] <d0htem> this isnt xchat.
[04:22] <d0htem> so ssh help anyone
[04:22] <Diehardy> what is this damn place then?
[04:22] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  if you define a nother driver...it wont be cleaned up ...but at least it wont be called no more? :-)
[04:22] <dexi> IRC
[04:22] <d0htem> freenode
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> d0htem: ssh in what way?
[04:23] <dexi> xchat is a client that accesses freenode (and millions of other networks) to provide a chat
[04:23] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: That I did. I am back in Xorg using nv. I just want to cleanup the mess. There was an API mismatch, Kernel has the 71 version, while I was loading 180 version
[04:23] <Diehardy> where are all the cool chat rooms?
[04:23] <d0htem> i installed openssh-server, how do i setup a single root account with some leet key auth. i just want to connect over my local lan.
[04:23] <nickrud> Diehardy, it's a help channel. try search ircsearch.com for interesting channels
[04:23] <norcim122> wait is -o not -zero
[04:23] <dexi> -o != -0
[04:23] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  unless they got an uninstaller .... uh ... dunno..must be lots of files all over the place, hehe
[04:23] <Diehardy> k
[04:23] <norcim122> ActionParsnip: works thanks
[04:24] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: Right now, I am so pissed, I might just sudo rm locate nvidia :p
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> d0htem: ive never used key auth, always just username and pass
[04:24] <d0htem> ahh, well for now can u at least help me do that so i can make sure this ssh is at least closed and passworded to 1 account.
[04:24] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  err...not sure I would recommend that ....    you checked if there is an uninstaller in the package? ...it comes with its own shell script for installing right?
[04:24] <CentHOGG> Hi, in mplayer shift-I brings up the filename. How would you bind that particular action/keystroke to another key in input.conf? TIA
[04:25] <jp_sf> d0htem: with your client you generate the keys on the machine then you append the public remote key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys in the server that's it
[04:25] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  guess you can go through that script, and undo everything it did, heh
[04:25] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: Yeah it does. But the shell script just starts installing
[04:25] <d0htem> jp_sf: ahh sick.
[04:25] <_Cid> WebcamWonder: vi it? ;-)
[04:25] <d0htem> and if i just want a password?
[04:25] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: Yeah, I know. 868 lines of misery
[04:26] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  well...nothing on the tele anyway ;-)  keeps you busy ...unless you prefer fixing my Sieve script :)
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> d0htem: ssh username@servername
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !cloak > a-t
[04:26] <jp_sf> d0htem: on the remote computer you generate the key with the public key from the server
[04:26] <norcim122> ActionParsnip: how to i create a user in kubuntu ... i only have root (in cmd mode)
[04:26] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: I'd rather fix my PC first :p
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | norcim122
[04:27] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  well...having gthe files on your system wont hurt it .... whats broken?
[04:27] <a-t> ubottu i didn't get it
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> norcim122: you dont have root by default, its disabled for security, you can use the account you made when you first installed
[04:27] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: Well, the thing is, apparently something from somewhere old is coming in. I need to cleanup all the junk relating to nVidia on this PC
[04:27] <a-t> can u send pm again ubottu please
[04:28] <CentHOGG> anybody here mplayer?
[04:28] <norcim122> ActionParsnip: while you are on a roll.... my install failed at last steps  is there a repair tool to check for errors?
[04:28] <cef> I'm trying to create a chroot (well, a xen image, but anyway) using debootstrap, and compared to other ubuntu systems, there isn't an 'admin' group - does anyone know where this gets created normally?
[04:28] <WhiteLacePinkVas> ubottu my botto
[04:28] <_Cid> WebcamWonder: something old coming in? ... whats it doing? ...any errors? ..I was thinking you were just a neat freak :)
[04:28] <donavan__> Going to try this again .... anyone know why my CTRL key doesnt do anything when I try and select multiple files ... the key works otherwise just not when select files
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> norcim122: fsck in livecd / root console
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !cloak > a-t
[04:29] <_Cid> donavan__:  if its a mac keyboard, use command instead :P
[04:29] <a-t> thanks guys
[04:29] <a-t> good night
[04:29] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: The new drivers can't load b/c the client version is 180, and the kernel (?) version is 71. API mismatch :)
[04:29] <norcim122> i am chrooted in right now from Ubuntu
[04:29] <donavan__> _Cid:  no its a PC ... logictech actually
[04:30] <_Cid> WebcamWonder:  oh ...I thought the shell script would try to compile a fresh version ...been a while since I played with Nvidia ... no --force option or anything?
[04:31] <Geemy> jp_sf: I think I have it all working now, thank you so much for your time and hard work
[04:31] <_Cid> donavan__:  beats me, sorry dewd :/    in all apps, or just one?  (does shift select work?)
[04:31] <mobbinU> any 1 here im new an i want to try ubuntu
[04:31] <jp_sf> Geemy: your welcome
[04:31] <CentHOGG> anybody here mplayer?
[04:31] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: It should technically, apparently I have to dive into the script to see what it does
[04:32] <mobbinU> any 1 here im new an i want to try ubuntu
[04:32] <jp_sf> CentHOGG, /whois mplayer * mplayer :No such nick/channel
[04:32] <jp_sf> CentHOGG: sorry what is your problem with mplayer ?
[04:32] <CentHOGG> Hi, in mplayer shift-I brings up the filename. How would you bind that particular action/keystroke to another key in input.conf? TIA
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> _Cid: They do provide an uninstall switch :)
[04:32] <_Cid> WebcamWonder: aha!
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mobbinU, download the cd, and boot it up, it lets you try without installing
[04:32] <donavan__> _Cid: everything even under my windows XP Vitrual Machine so its got to be something low on the totempole but its weird that it works in everyway execpt when select files
[04:33] <mattgyver83> Anyone familiar with busybox?
[04:33] <nickrud> WebcamWonder, reinstall your kernel and the nvidia-glx-71, that should get you back, or very close. reinstall ligl1-mesa-glx also
[04:33] <mobbinU> •Jack_Sparrow• can u pm me plz
[04:33] <jp_sf> CentHOGG: with a mplayer config file
[04:33] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: umm.. all the drivers provided by Ubuntu repo for my card are broken
[04:34] <jp_sf> CentHOGG: in a .mplayer
[04:34] <jp_sf> CentHOGG: in your home directory
[04:34] <mobbinU> •Jack_Sparrow• where do i download it from an can i run it off my flash drive
[04:35] <nickrud> WebcamWonder, ah, bummer. wonder why you didn't get a matching kernel from the nvidia installer
[04:35] <nickrud> *kernel module
[04:35] <_Cid> donavan__:  sorry .. no idea :/   guessing its some fancy smart keyboard thats trying to do something you rather not have it do ...I only buy the $5.95 keyboards .... what do I know :/   good luck
[04:35] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: Apparently, it said it was building it, it never did
[04:36] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: brb
[04:36] <nuevaera> alguien que hable español
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !download
[04:36] <ryanCH> every since i installed the ATI drivers for my video card, when X starts the screen starts flipping out and goes all crazy... i looked in my xorg.conf file, and there is no Monitor refresh rate data in there, could that be the problem or no?....
[04:36] <ryanCH> *ever
[04:38] <Pytlask> Hey all :) When I try to compile a program, I'm getting an error: "cannot find -lopengl32". Anybody know what package/where I can download that library?
[04:38] <roger_> isn't opengl32 a windows binary
[04:39] <nickrud> yes, it's in wine
[04:39] <blind> Hey, for some reason ubuntu won't read my 8gb micro sd card through my card reader. 1 and 2 work fine.
[04:39] <hentaiUbuntu> Is there a crtl+alt+del equiv in ubuntu
[04:39] <hentaiUbuntu> to bring up taskmgr in windows like
[04:39] <jp_sf> hentaiUbuntu: command top
[04:39] <nickrud> hentaiUbuntu, system->admin->system monitor
[04:40] <_Cid> !paste
[04:40] <hentaiUbuntu> jp_sf, huh
[04:40] <hentaiUbuntu> nick58b, key shortcut
[04:40] <cef> blind: I'd be guessing a hardware limitation. do you know if it works under windows on the same hardware?
[04:40] <nickrud> hentaiUbuntu, no.
[04:40] <hentaiUbuntu> jp_sf, no not a cli thing
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> Pytlask: try: sudo apt-get install libqt4-opengl-dev
[04:41] <WebcamWonder> hentaiUbuntu: You can set all the keyboard shortcuts you want from System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:41] <blind> cef: I don't, unfortunately. I may be able to share it in vbox, but if i can't i won't know if it's because the hardware won't read it or because ubuntu won't.
[04:41] <TheFunkbomb> So, maybe I should have asked this before I installed it but what are some of the benefits of Ubuntu?
[04:41] <hentaiUbuntu> WebcamWonder, appericate that but ok
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[04:41] <CentHOGG> certainly not gaming
[04:42] <blind> cef: oh nevermind, I can't. my image is on my external, which is in the car.
[04:42] <Pytlask> VERY configurable compared to Windows. Not as much overhead in general. Much better coding environment.
[04:42] <Zombie_Gaz> TheFunkbomb: You know how Windows just seems to get slower and slower the longer you have a machine? Ubuntu won't do that.
[04:43] <TheFunkbomb> okay
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: good support for apps, ubuntu uses standards
[04:43] <_Cid> CentHOGG:  not 100% true ....admittingly it was nerdy to set up - but WoW flies on my linux box  ... much much better than it did when same box ran windows ;-)
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: its actually fun to use
[04:43] <TheFunkbomb> yeah, I've been having a blast not doing anything lol
[04:43] <Zombie_Gaz> TheFunkbomb: everything is free
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> TheFunkbomb: its a new system, you'll have teething issues
[04:44] <Pytlask> _Cid: Do you use the OpenGL rendering?
[04:44] <StanManCan> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop. I boot up and select to "Install" and the loading bar bounces back and forward a few times, and then it fills up solid and then my monitor says "Going to sleep" and shuts off... any ideas? (Yes I've checked CD for defects)
[04:44] <cef> TheFunkbomb: the other thing is: the internals are all documented, and all code that can be open IS. This means anyone can look through it, understand how it works and why.
[04:44] <_Cid> Pytlask:  yeah (did, dont play anymore ..but yes I did..and wine - enabled me to raid again ;-) )
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> StanManCan: did you md5 check the iso as well as verify the cd was consistant?
[04:44] <opera> WHAT IS LDAP？
[04:44] <TheFunkbomb> I see
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> !ldap
[04:44] <_Cid> !LDAP
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> !caps | opera
[04:45] <Pytlask> _Cid: Hmm. Did you find any way to get around the lack of a hardware cursor? That's the one thing that bugs me :/
[04:45] <_Cid> Pytlask:  yeah I did .. you got a small garbled 'smudge' as a cursor? ..and some buff icons etc seems misplaced?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> _Cid: you using nvidia gfx card?
[04:46] <mysteryskater73> how do you set up a printer in Ubuntu Studio?
[04:46] <martintux> hey, can someone help me with MBR?
[04:46] <_Cid> ActionParsnip:  I did ...this is all past tense, stopped playing WoW a while back - but yeah, I did
[04:46] <StanManCan> ActionParsnip: No... I just did the check in ubuntu...
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> mysteryskater73: depends on the printer make and model
[04:46] <bbbs> ubuntu didn't detect my onboard video. agere is the only distingusing factor i can find on the motherboard to give me some clues as to what driver to get
[04:46] <_Cid> ActionParsnip:  wasnt asking questions, just pointing out that with alittle bit of nerding, Ubuntu can be a power game box, hehe
[04:46] <mysteryskater73> its a lexmark
[04:46] <martintux> i accendently deleted the first partition, which was the first one(XP)
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | StanManCan
[04:47] <mysteryskater73> x5495
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> _Cid: oh absolutely
[04:47] <Parvo> Any ALSA help?
[04:47] <martintux> hey, can someone help me with MBR?
[04:47] <martintux> i accendently deleted the first partition, which was the first one(XP)v
[04:47] <b1> a
[04:47] <mysteryskater73> so how do you set up a lexmark x5495 printer in Ubuntu Studio
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> martintux: do you mean grub?
[04:48] <jp_sf> martintux, what happens ?
[04:48] <martintux> actionparsnip, first i was running XP
[04:48] <martintux> after i installed ubuntu on the second partition
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> martintux: ok
[04:48] <Parvo> oh another earthquake
[04:48] <martintux> i just deleted the frist one, xp
[04:48] <sleepy_cat> How to update Ubintu
[04:48] <martintux> then grub just gone along as well
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:49] <sleepy_cat> Ubuntu if the update icon is not appearing in the notification area
[04:49] <Parvo> any ALSA help?
[04:49] <mysteryskater73> can anyone help me?
[04:49] <martintux> anythought?
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> Parvo: instead of repeating, just ask your question
[04:49] <Parvo> k
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> martintux: so you cant boot xp anymore?
[04:50] <mysteryskater73> how do you set up a Lexmark x5495 printer/scanner in Ubuntu Studio
[04:50] <martintux> no, i totally wiped that partition out
[04:50] <Parvo> i did a minimal install form the mini cd. whats the official way to install alsa.
[04:50] <Parvo> ?
[04:50] <martintux> leave only ubuntu on the second one
[04:50] <sleepy_cat> ActionParsnip: But how to enable the updates like so tht it reappears in the notification area
[04:50] <_Cid> Parvo:  apt-get install alsa-base ?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: sudo apt-get install adept-notifier
[04:50] <Parvo> did it
[04:50] <martintux> but the GRUB isn't showing up cause MBR is on the first, right?
[04:51] <Parvo> i have fluxbox installed and vln
[04:51] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> martintux: ten point your bios to the other drive
[04:51] <Parvo> vln plays but no sound
[04:51] <opera> what si perl
[04:51] <Parvo> lspci sees the card
[04:52] <Parvo> lsmod seems to show the module
[04:52] <opera> what is perl?
[04:52] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: hi
[04:52] <martintux> ActionParsnip, what do u mean by that?
[04:52] <_Cid> !perl
[04:52] <_Cid> :o
[04:52] <martintux> i have only one drive, two partition
[04:52] <_Cid> perl is a scripting language - quite powerful
[04:52] <mlopezqc> opera, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl
[04:52] <opera> thank
[04:52] <StanManCan> ActionParsnip: Yes MD5's match
[04:53] <Parvo> i googled installing alsa but i get docs from like 2002
[04:53] <Parvo> dont know if i can trust them
[04:53] <jp_sf> opera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl
[04:53] <martintux> bump::
[04:53] <mlopezqc> Parvo, why do you need alsa?
[04:53] <mlopezqc> are you trying to get something specific to work?
[04:54] <mlopezqc> maybe is already working
[04:54] <Parvo> i have vln installed i get vid but no sound
[04:54] <xanax`> hello
[04:54] <l3d> hey I am wondering if I were to remove bluetooth will that get rid of pan0  with out messing up ubuntu
[04:55] <mlopezqc> Parvo, you mean vlc
[04:55] <Parvo> yeh
[04:55] <mlopezqc> well, I think that maybe you are not using the proper device with vlc
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> StanManCan: good
[04:55] <Parvo> i'm listening
[04:55] <mlopezqc> wait a moment
[04:55] <Parvo> k
[04:56]  * bobbie4 touches everyone
[04:56] <mlopezqc> Parvo, check in Tools-Preferences
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> StanManCan: try running a memtest
[04:56] <mlopezqc> there is an audio tab
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> StanManCan: or try some boot options
[04:57] <terryx> i have just installed ubuntu and its shows still no updates...why?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | StanManCan
[04:57] <StanManCan> ActionParsnip: memory should be good... what boot options do you recommend
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> StanManCan: acpi off nodma
[04:57] <StanManCan> ActionParsnip: I'm thinking whats happening is it's going to a mode unsupported by my monitor possibloe
[04:57] <jp_sf> terryx: no update where ?
[04:58] <shoto1699> hi
[04:58] <shoto1699> can anyone here help me?
[04:58] <shoto1699> i have a problem
[04:58] <terryx> jp_sf..where...in ubuntu offcourse
[04:58] <Parvo> sorry, in the fluxbox menus?
[04:58] <StanManCan> shoto1699: don't ask for help, just ask your question
[04:58] <shoto1699> ok
[04:58] <mlopezqc> in the vlc menus
[04:58] <sleepy_cat> thanks ActionParsnip
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> terryx: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-u;grade
[04:58] <Parvo> gatcha
[04:59] <woli> how do i reset my .gconf and .gconfd folders to like they where when I just installed ubuntu?
[04:59] <terryx> actionparsnip, done..nothing
[04:59] <mlopezqc> woli: remove them
[04:59] <woli> thanks
[04:59] <DigitalFiz> woli, delete them
[04:59] <Parvo> ok im there
[04:59] <Roasted> Anybody good with skype? I cant get my microphone to work. I'm about to lose it.
[05:00] <sikrin> sure you have the right duplex settin on skype?
[05:00] <Roasted> no, I'm not quite sure of anything to be honest.
[05:00] <mlopezqc> parvo: in the audio tab there is an Output option
[05:00] <Roasted> ButI've tried everything I can think of.
[05:00] <mlopezqc> select alsa
[05:00] <Roasted> in skype?
[05:00] <Roasted> or in ubuntu?
[05:00] <Parvo> should i select alsa as output?
[05:00] <Diehardy> what is happening?
[05:00] <mlopezqc> yep
[05:01] <Roasted> DieHardy - are you talking to me?
[05:01] <sikrin> Both need to support full duplex
[05:01] <Diehardy> YES
[05:01]  * bobbie4 streaks through the channel.
[05:01] <Roasted> my microphone isnt working
[05:01] <sikrin> im pretty sure that ubuntu by default does
[05:01] <Diehardy> Neither is mine!
[05:01] <Diehardy> What are you using?
[05:01] <Roasted> I have 2 skype accounts. I have my laptop behind me and I'm calling my other account. I can't hear anything.
[05:01] <Diehardy> an Eee PC?
[05:01] <Roasted> no, Dell Precision M4300
[05:01] <x1250> haha, Diehardy, nice nick :P
[05:01] <Diehardy> TANKSSSSSSSSSS
[05:02] <Diehardy> Dells suck
[05:02] <Roasted> its a work laptop, I paid nothign for it
[05:02] <Diehardy> get an Eee Pc
[05:02] <Roasted> but hey! thanksf or the input
[05:02] <Roasted> so constructive
[05:02] <Roasted> anybody else?
[05:02] <FloodBot3> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <Diehardy> hahaha
[05:02] <Roasted> Anybody else mess with skype? I cant get my microphone to work.
[05:03] <Diehardy> I did
[05:03] <propagandhi> Roasted: does the mic work in any other apps
[05:03] <Diehardy> but I had an Eee PC
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> Roasted: well does it work otherwise, or just not w/ Skype
[05:03] <Diehardy> Go to options
[05:03] <Roasted> Well, what other program can I test my microphone in?
[05:03] <Diehardy> go to sound devices in options
[05:03] <Roasted> Audacity has been messed up ever since Hardy. I dont hear anything out of it. I've heard it's due to pulseaudio and Audacity being old.
[05:03] <Parvo> nothing
[05:03] <Diehardy> and change out of pulce audio
[05:04] <opera> what is apt
[05:04] <Roasted> diehardy - already is
[05:04] <Diehardy> hang on
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> !apt | opera
[05:04] <jp_sf> !apt | opera
[05:04] <Roasted> I mean, my microphone works with skype in Vista on the same computer. I just cant get it to work with skype in Ubuntu.
[05:04] <Diehardy> Vista sucks
[05:04] <propagandhi> Roasted: check the volume controls
[05:04] <Roasted> I did
[05:04] <propagandhi> Roasted: when u speak
[05:04] <Roasted> all maxed
[05:04] <mlopezqc> Parvo, open a terminal and try to run alsamix
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> Roasted: the fact it works in vista, is pretty much 100% irrelevant, all that reveals is that its not a hardware issue.
[05:05] <mlopezqc> sorry, is alsamixer
[05:05] <Diehardy> sound out and ringing change to pulse
[05:05] <Roasted> indygunfreak - I'm aware of this. I just said that so we know that the hardware is at least working. The only thing I cant verify is if them ic works in Ubuntu otherwise because I have no other application to test it since Audacity doesnt work.
[05:06] <mlopezqc> Roasted, maybe skype dont support pulseaudio
[05:06] <Parvo> alsamixer: function snd_clt_open failed for default: no such file or directory
[05:06] <mlopezqc> Roasted, shut it down
[05:06] <Roasted> shut what down? my computer?
[05:06] <Diehardy> yes
[05:06] <Diehardy> do it now
[05:06] <mlopezqc> Roasted, pulseadio
[05:06] <Roasted> diehardy - die
[05:06] <Diehardy> huh?
[05:06] <Roasted> mlopezqc - how do I go about doing that?
[05:06] <Diehardy> why?
[05:07] <mlopezqc> System - Administration - System Monitor
[05:07] <Diehardy> press the power button
[05:07] <mlopezqc> there is a process manager, like in Win
[05:07] <Roasted> k, it's done
[05:07] <mlopezqc> search for pulseaudio and finish it
[05:08] <mlopezqc> Parvo, what kind of audio card are u using?
[05:08] <Roasted> still doesnt work with my laptop
[05:08] <Roasted> Christ why do things in linux have to be like this sometimes
[05:08] <shoto1699> How do I connect to the internet with a 2wire usb?
[05:08] <mlopezqc> Roasted, is not Linux fault
[05:09] <IndyGunFreak> Roasted: if hardware manufacturers would make linux drivers, things would work as well in Linux as they do in WIndows
[05:09] <Parvo> i'm using a old hp eVectra
[05:09] <shoto1699> (using ubuntu)
[05:09] <breathsOf10> Roasted: never blame linux
[05:09] <Parvo> umm lspci gives me...
[05:09] <Roasted> Im not, I love linux. But sometimes windows is just easier.
[05:09] <Roasted> Whcih brings tears to my eyes.
[05:09] <breathsOf10> Roasted: The linux blames u
[05:09] <breathsOf10> hehe
[05:09] <mlopezqc> the thing is that Linux evolves so fast that Skype cant follow it
[05:09] <CentHOGG> hi anybody wireless-g stream here?
[05:09] <breathsOf10> actually i like the ease of use in windows too
[05:09] <Parvo> Intel 82801aa ac'97
[05:10] <jp_sf> shoto1699: you ndiswrapper
[05:10] <Parvo> audio controller
[05:10] <breathsOf10> but if u wanna go techy .. windows just rolls over
[05:10] <mlopezqc> I remember the times when it only supported OSS and you had to shut esd
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> CentHOGG: wireless g stream?
[05:10] <CentHOGG> for the nominal wireless-g network, what is the average kbps? Not asking megabits, just kb/sec. TIA
[05:10] <trippss> for some reason starting now my top gnome task bar in hardy heron is wider than the screen so I can't see the quit/logoff button on the right and the clock is partially obscured. The bottom bar is fine. Maximized windows are fine. Nothing at all changed. If I move the bar to the bottom of the screen, then maximized windows also go off the edge. what is going on?
[05:10] <Roasted> what program can I use in ubuntu besides audacity to test my microphone?
[05:10] <mlopezqc> Parvo, and what about the result of lsmod? use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:11] <cef> Roasted: as weird as it might seem, linux tends to support more hardware than windows. I've had lots of hardware that windows won't work with anymore that works fine under linux.. YMMV of course
[05:11] <Roasted> cef - I agree. I have a sound card that works with linux out of box yet vista doesnt know it exists.
[05:11] <breathsOf10> tt's true Cef
[05:11] <mlopezqc> Roasted, try ekiga
[05:11] <Roasted> It's just exhausting to have certain programs like skype that I need to use be such a pain in the ass in linux but in winodws I just hit "install" and its good to go.
[05:11] <breathsOf10> i have 64 bit problems on xp
[05:11] <hentaiUbuntu> breathsOf10, how so just windows just roll over?
[05:12] <breathsOf10> when u want subversion .. git
[05:12] <GFree> yeah, but what about features? does your sound card in Linux have all the bass/eq functionality that the proper drivers (when installed) in Linux has? as an example
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> Roasted: again, this is not a linux/ubuntu/skype issue... its most likely a hardware issue.
[05:12] <_Cid> Roasted: I agree!! ..I love linux, runs it on all my machines .. except one ... for that kind of stuff exactly ...on that I run mac  (freebsd underneath ...pretty easy gui on top)
[05:12] <mlopezqc> Roasted, did you check in the Options what device is Skype using?
[05:12] <whabooo> i am trying to install an hp F4240 deskjet printer with no luck :( any1 out here that can help me?
[05:12] <mlopezqc> OSS or ALSA?
[05:12] <x1250> Roasted, sound-recorder
[05:12] <Roasted> I just realized I have a program called "sound recorder". I just recorded myself talking and it didnt pick it up.
[05:12]  * cef goes back to smacking xen upside the head
[05:12] <Roasted> Im gonna reboot to get pulse back on again
[05:12] <Roasted> brb
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> mlopezqc: alsa, oss can only play 1 sound
[05:13] <trippss> if I unexpand the top bar, it is definitely not centered
[05:13] <trippss> strangest thing I've ever seen
[05:13] <nsadmin> whabooo tell what you tried already too, the more information the better
[05:13] <Roasted> waka waka
[05:13] <Parvo> do you want snd stuff or everything
[05:13] <trippss> almost like the top 24 pixels is wider than the rest of the screen
[05:13] <jp_sf> shoto1699: have you done sudo ndiswrapper -i thenameofyour.inf
[05:13] <Parvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102554/
[05:14] <mlopezqc> Parvo, put it all
[05:14] <Parvo> ok hold on
[05:15] <whabooo> nsadmin: i tried installing hplip but when i open it doesnt detect any printers. and i have no idea what is the xxx:yyy ID of the printer on usb to do it manually , is there a way i can see what USB devices and their ID that are conbnected to my pc?
[05:15] <jp_sf> shoto1699: what gives you a nidiswrapper -l
[05:15] <jp_sf> !who | shoto1699
[05:15] <Parvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102555/
[05:15] <whabooo> nsadmin: hplip says that my device is supported
[05:15] <Parvo> thats everything
[05:16] <jp_sf> shoto1699: what gives you a nidiswrapper -l ?
[05:16] <anon> whats that
[05:17] <anon> many troubles with ubuntu intrepid
[05:17] <mlopezqc> Parvo, did you install alsa-utils?
[05:17] <CentHOGG> for the nominal wireless-g network, what is the average kbps? Not asking megabits, just kb/sec. TIA
[05:18] <whabooo> i tried installing hplip but when i open it doesnt detect any printers. and i have no idea what is the xxx:yyy ID of the printer on usb to do it manually , is there a way i can see what USB devices and their ID that are conbnected to my pc?
[05:18] <shoto1699> jp_sf: wut do u mean?
[05:18] <tj83> whabooo, lsusb
[05:18] <jp_sf> shoto1699: could open a terminal prompt and type: nidiswrapper -l
[05:18] <Parvo> yes
[05:18] <jp_sf> shoto1699: could open a terminal prompt and type: ndiswrapper -l
[05:19] <mlopezqc> wait
[05:19] <shoto1699> jp_sf: not on ubuntu right now
[05:19] <woli> i need help with wireless... in the live session it worked, there was something in the panel, but now I don't even get the wireless options..
[05:19] <jp_sf> shoto1699: sorry for the typo
[05:19] <dnyy> What's the name of the installer on the ubuntu live CD?  Mine froze and I can't get it to close or continue
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> dnyy: ubiquity ?
[05:19] <sikrin> wirelessg averages 20-25 Mbps optimally
[05:19] <shoto1699> jp_sf: well when i tried it, it did not do anything
[05:19] <dnyy> eh, I thought that but it's not showing it when I try killall :/
[05:19] <jp_sf> shoto1699: ok so when you are back to make sure that ndiswrapper loaded correctly the .inf you type : ndiswrapper -l and you should get back something like device blablabla present
[05:20] <tj83> woli, try system-admin-hardware drivers to see if there is a proprietary driver there for your wifi
[05:20] <mlopezqc> Parvo, what happens if you execute aplay -l ?
[05:20] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here know how to get Enemy Territory to work under Ubuntu?
[05:20] <woli> tj83, there is one
[05:20] <tj83> woli, did you enable it and restart?
[05:20] <shoto1699> jp_sf: i tried to load it but it did not work
[05:20] <woli> tj83, it is enabled..
[05:20] <Parvo> aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found
[05:20] <woli> tj83, i have the green light on it
[05:20] <GFree> spasticteapot: wolf enemy territory or enemy territoy quake wars?
[05:20] <Parvo> also
[05:20] <Roasted> I honestly dont get this. One second, my microphone works in sound recorder. The next, it doesnt work.
[05:20] <woli> well, it says broadcom sta
[05:21] <Parvo> i tried vlc in xterm
[05:21] <spasticteapot> GFree: Wolfenstien enemy territory. The old one.
[05:21] <tj83> woli, does it way "in use" in addition to "enabled"
[05:21] <esquire> I am new to Ubunto and am trying to get Rythmbox to play mp3s.  It says I need to buy a codec.  Any help?
[05:21] <Parvo> and tried to play
[05:21] <trippss> someone please help me understand why everything is going off the right side of the screen (maximizing windows, top task bar, etc.)
[05:21] <Parvo> and got this....
[05:21] <woli> tj83, i'm in ibes
[05:21] <GFree> should just be a matter of downloading and installing it
[05:21] <woli> ibex*
[05:21] <Parvo> [00000483] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[05:21] <Parvo> [00000483] esd audio output error: cannot open esound socket (format 0x00001011 at 44100 Hz)
[05:21] <shoto1699> jp_sf: i shall go on ubuntu to try once more
[05:21] <shoto1699> jp_sf: brb
[05:21] <Parvo> no alsa
[05:21] <tj83> woli, hardy here, but i believe it should read both "enabled" and "in use" if not restart to see if it takes effect
[05:21] <trippss> running compiz - when I do super+E it definitely shows the desktops being wider than the screen
[05:22] <jp_sf> shoto1699: what do you mean it didn't work ? if you could paste the output of the ndiswrapper that would be great the loading of the .inf is just the first step after you have to configure it, but you have to make sure that the correct .inf is loaded
[05:22] <woli> tj83, k
[05:22] <mlopezqc> Parvo, what ubuntu version are u using?
[05:22] <Parvo> 8.10
[05:22] <shoto1699> jp_sf i tried to load the .inf's but it did not work
[05:23] <mlopezqc> Parvo, all I can think now is that your sound card is not supported
[05:23] <Parvo> does in matter that i installed vlc before alsa?
[05:23] <trippss> I am using a laptop. 15" screen, resolution is correct, but everything is wider than the screen
[05:23] <jp_sf> shoto1699: you are in dual boot I guess so what you need to ensure is you have the correct .inf that you can find on the CDRom then you issue a command sudo ndiswrapper - i .inf (is that not working ?)
[05:23] <mlopezqc> no, cause aplay -l list your devices and it says that you have none
[05:24] <woli> tj83, i am restarting right now, ill let you know
[05:24] <shoto1699> jp_sf: that does not work
[05:24] <jp_sf> shoto1699: you have an error message or something ?
[05:24] <mlopezqc> did you try with the livecd and sound worked?
[05:24] <Parvo> i'm pretty sure i used the card using a livecd
[05:24] <trippss> switching to metacity doesn't help
[05:24] <Parvo> yeah
[05:24] <woli> tj83, strange thing is that when I was in the live session, it worked perfectly.
[05:24] <woli> tj83, is there someway i could configure the net card as it was with the live session?
[05:25] <trippss> been using ubuntu on this laptop for > year without problems. Have had hardy running for weeks no problems. This just started tonight without reason.
[05:25] <tj83> woli, if this is the first run after your install, i think your chances are good it will be "in-use" upon reboot
[05:26] <woli> tj83, yes, but for some reason the card is not working as it used to do while in live sessions
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> woli: if you run lshw -C network in the live session it should tell you the driver it uses
[05:26] <mlopezqc> Parvo, maybe something is missing that you had in the livecd
[05:26] <woli> wait... i think it is now
[05:26] <tj83> woli, and if not, then possibly so yes, you could boot the live cd and check for the module that is loaded for your wifi
[05:26] <mlopezqc> Parvo, how did you install the system?
[05:26] <spasticteapot> GFree: any ideas?
[05:26] <tj83> woli, proprietary drivers are often not loaded first boot. certainly worth a try
[05:26] <Parvo> mini cd with cli only
[05:26] <Parvo> installed xorg fluxbox...
[05:27] <Parvo> then vlc, then alsa
[05:27] <woli> it works now...
[05:27] <woli> just needed restart
[05:27] <trippss> would appreciate some ideas or if anyone has seen this before
[05:27] <tj83> heh, figured
[05:27] <esquire> Any help with playing mp3s on Rythmbox in Ubuntu 8.10??????
[05:27] <tj83> woli, :P
[05:28] <woli> tj83, just that my touchpad is screwed again lol
[05:28] <Parvo> its an mp3 file
[05:28] <tj83> woli, you will have to define "screwed" a little better :)
[05:28] <jp_sf> esquire: haven't used Rhytmbox in a while but what is your problem ?
[05:28] <shoto1699> jp_sf: yes i get an error message
[05:28] <woli> restaring again after getting synaptic touchpad packages reinstalled..
[05:29] <jp_sf> shoto1699: that might be helpful to get the error message
[05:29] <woli> by default, xps touchpad does not work
[05:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:29] <mlopezqc> Parvo, what happens if you do sudo alsa reload?
[05:29] <Zombie_Gaz> Anyone use rhythmbox with last.fm pluggin? I'm having trouble getting it to scrobble my tracks.
[05:29] <silv3r_m00n> i need a video editing tool
[05:29] <silv3r_m00n> please suggest a few
[05:29] <woli> tj83, one just has to get the synaptics packages for it to work
[05:29] <tj83> woli, well sounds like you have your solution already
[05:29] <Parvo> havent tried that in a bit. hold on
[05:29] <esquire> I just started using Ubuntu 8.10 with the standard Rythmbox.  I try to play an MP3 I have and made on windows and it tells me I need to buy a codec to play it.
[05:29] <tripchronic> i can't seem to mount an ntfs hard drive, it says something about an unclean removal, i don't have a windows partition...can i use a virtualmachine or force it to mount somehow???
[05:29] <jp_sf> silv3r_m00n: kino ?
[05:30] <TwoEqualsTen> !restricted
[05:30] <shoto1699> jp_sf: i shall go on ubuntu to get the error msg brb
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: avidemux
[05:30] <tj83> tripchronic, try the -f option, not sure... but maybe
[05:30] <TwoEqualsTen> check that out Parvo
[05:30] <tripchronic> tj83 sudo -f ?
[05:30] <jp_sf> silv3r_m00n: Cinelerra
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> tripchronic: try using the force option
[05:30] <TwoEqualsTen> I mean esquire
[05:30] <GFree> I think he means to use the mount command with -f
[05:31] <l3d> dam this pan0 interface
[05:31] <GFree> it's a shame Ubuntu can't force mount it in the GUI, why should people have to resort to the command line?
[05:31] <whabooo>  001 Device 020: ID 03f0:2504 Hewlett-Packard
[05:31] <whabooo> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0b38:0003
[05:31] <whabooo> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0557:7000 ATEN International Co., Ltd Hub
[05:31] <whabooo> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[05:31] <FloodBot3> whabooo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> tripchronic: if its a usb drive and has been in an xp system, reattach it and then use the saftely remove hardware feature like youo are supposed to
[05:31] <woli> well... it is not working this time..
[05:31] <woli> tk
[05:31] <woli> tj83,
[05:31] <tj83> tripchronic, no the -f option in your mount command like "sudo mount -t -f ntfs-3g /dev/sdb? /mount/point/
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> GFree: cli gives you power
[05:32] <phobiac> Does anyone know how to edit the menu hotkeys in ubuntu? I change one in xchat and now I have to copy and paste the letter n or the connect to window pops up
[05:32] <tj83> tripchronic, no the -f option in your mount command like "sudo mount -f -t  ntfs-3g /dev/sdb? /mount/point/" sorry
[05:32] <tripchronic> tj83 thanks
[05:32] <phobiac> This is so annoying
[05:32] <tripchronic> GFree i actually prefer to learn how to use the command line
[05:32] <Parvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102562/
[05:32] <Parvo> but nothing
[05:32] <GFree> ActionParsnip: you shouldn't need such "power" to mount an uncleanly mounted drive. Are we gonna force new users to resort to the CLI for such a case? Don't think like a geek
[05:32] <tj83> woli, you have done all available updates and restarted, always start there
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> GFree: just cleanly unmount / remove the drive and you have no issues
[05:33] <mlopezqc> Parvo, wait a moment, do you have udev installed?
[05:33] <GFree> ActionParsnip: doesn't always happen. What if I want to mount an external HDD from a friend who just pulled it out of his XP machine without safely removing?
[05:33] <woli> tj83, but it used to work before... without downloading all the updates...
[05:34] <esquire> twoequalsten, check what out?
[05:34] <millertime_018> hey... when i boot ubuntu, the startup sound is all jacked up
[05:34] <tj83> woli, your missing the point, the updates are there for a "reason"
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> GFree: then teach him to saftely remove stuff then
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> GFree: its not ubuntus fault that users mistreat drives
[05:34] <Parvo> dont know how do i check
[05:34] <GFree> ActionParsnip: true, but Windows can deal with it gracefully, that's the point
[05:35] <GFree> ActionParsnip: maybe a warning that the drive should have been unmounted properly, then allow the user to force mount would be better
[05:35] <woli> ...
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> GFree: true thatd be better
[05:35] <woli> tough luck, 219mb
[05:35] <workingchair> Hey, should I switch to 64-bit Ubuntu?  I have an AMD64 processor
[05:35] <GFree> ActionParsnip: that way, they learn something as well as get what they want
[05:35] <mlopezqc> dpkg --get-selections | grep udev
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> GFree: thatd be better for newbs
[05:36] <tj83> ActionParsnip, GFree we can argue all day what is right or wrong, the point is that windows intentionally leaves the user out of important information, and i would rather know about a failure or other issue
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> GFree: i always mount from command line manually
[05:36] <KungfuJoe> Hi, could somebody answer a quick question for me?
[05:36] <workingchair> What's that?
[05:36] <ryanCH_> what is the main opengl package under aptitude, to actually install opengl?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> !ask | KungfuJoe
[05:36] <GFree> ActionParsnip: even USB drives? shouldn't we aim to streamline actions instead of doing EVERYTHING manually?
[05:36] <jp_sf> workingchair,: got a amd64 running ubuntu 64 8.10 for me it is perfectly fine
[05:36] <Parvo> i get udev     install
[05:37] <mlopezqc> so, is installed
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> GFree: i like control, i dont always want stuffmounted
[05:37] <tj83> ryanCH_, i dont know, but familiarize yourself with the "sudo apt-cache search " command life is easier
[05:37] <woli> god bless usb mouse...
[05:37] <abcdef> ni
[05:37] <mlopezqc> I think is an autodetection thing
[05:37] <KungfuJoe> (sorry). I'm downloading some updates for my brand new ubuntu install, and my download speeds are spiking up to about 30 kB/s, and then, after a minute, will drop down to 0, and then, after a minute, go back up. Is this normal?
[05:37] <GFree> ActionParsnip: I agree to a point. I disable nautilus popping up when I put in a USB stick and disable apps from running depending on the drive's contents
[05:38] <GFree> ActionParsnip: but if you plug in a USB drive, naturally the first thing you'd normally do is mount it anyway
[05:38] <breathsOf10> tj83: i just learnt apt-cache search ..
[05:38] <breathsOf10> bless it :)
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> GFree: not necessarily, i might just be puttng it in to access later
[05:38] <nsadmin> also see packages.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <KungfuJoe> currently, my updates are waffling between a couple days, and a couple weeks
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> GFree: or to fsck, in which case i dont want it mounted
[05:39] <workingchair> jp_sf, are there any hangups, like adobe flash not working or something still?
[05:39]  * eseven73 smacks nsadmin for not making that link clickable 
[05:39] <Roasted> whats the point of pulseaudio?
[05:39] <Roasted> can anybody tell me?
[05:39] <tj83> KungfuJoe, depending you location you may want to select a different server i belive its system-admin-software sources
[05:39] <GFree> ActionParsnip: but in MOST cases, I'd gather you'd want it mounted
[05:39] <jp_sf> workingchair: no I'm running an adobe flash version and it is running fine
[05:39] <Parvo> ddi i mis something?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: its a sound system, it lets you set different volume levels for differrent apps
[05:39] <l0fls> ditto
[05:40] <l0fls> flash works fine
[05:40] <Roasted> actionparsnip - In your opinion, is pulseaudio a good thing? or the ultimate flop?
[05:40] <workingchair> Okay cool. thanks
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> GFree: no its rare i use it directly, i use dd which can use raw devices and would be marked busy if it was mounted
[05:40] <Roasted> becuase I just cant fathom why it was looked at to be a good idea with the amount of problems weve had with it.
[05:40] <eseven73> Pulseaudio works good in other distros
[05:40] <mlopezqc> Parvo, the thing is that your installation didn't recognize your hardware ok
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: alsa is fine for me, ive not used pulse as im happy with alsa
[05:40] <Parvo> hmmm
[05:40] <Guest78220> help i need to remove vmci vmblock vmmon and vmnet yet i cannot
[05:40] <mlopezqc> so is kind of hard to know where it failed
[05:40] <KungfuJoe> tj83: Well, I'm in Washington, and I'm hitting a server in Vancouver, which isn't TOO far away, but do you think using the main server would be better or something?
[05:41] <GFree> ActionParsnip: fair enough, you seems like a power user who has more complicated needs.  I'm just approaching from the POV of an average user who wants to access their drive.
[05:41] <woli> tj83, also, my webcam is not working out-of-the-box
[05:41]  * tj83 uses alsa 
[05:41] <mlopezqc> we have beeing tracking it down
[05:41] <Marupa> Hey everyone, I've got a Logitech USB headset that doesn't seem to want to work under linux.  My main soundcard works, but the logitech one doesn't work.  I want both to work and 'share' an output. IE if there's sound coming into my onboard, play it on the logitech headset.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> GFree: oh i agree, average users like automount
[05:41] <Roasted> actionparsnip - how do you uninstall pulseaudio? I'm trying for the life of me to get my micrphone to work for skype, but I'm wondering if pulseaudio is my problem cause my mic wont even work outside of skype on ubuntu.
[05:41] <mlopezqc> but I'm not a guru
[05:41] <ryanCH_> why is graphic drawing still abit slow in KDE, even though i have 3d acceration on?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> !sound | Roasted
[05:41] <Marupa> Roasted, apt-get remove pulseaudio
[05:41] <GFree> ActionParsnip: not that I'm an average user myself, but I grow tired to having to do everything manually. I thought computers were supposed to make things easier for us. :)
[05:41] <tj83> KingOfDos, I am in georgia  I use the "GA-tech" location, its really good, but dont know how well you would fair with that with the distance so great
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> GFree: i like control
[05:41] <Parvo> even if it seems like its in lsmod?
[05:42] <wolter> hi
[05:42] <tj83> woli, bud, not everything is supported outta box and #ubuntu is for helping those who have exhausted all options on their own first... start with gathering info via "lsusb" and then google. its your best friend
[05:42] <mlopezqc> yes, it seems like the devices aren't created properly
[05:43] <eseven73> ActionParsnip: i would think someone like you would be running a more advanced distro than Ubuntu
[05:43] <wolter> tj83, well, is that i saw a webpage that said that webcam was supported out of the box
[05:43] <GFree> ActionParsnip: that's cool, but I sometimes prefer the computer to make decisions for me. It's a headache to have to account for every single thing on my system, so I like automation
[05:43] <Roasted> ubottu - I'm using CMedia 7868 (Alsa Mixer), which the CMedia chipset is my PCI sound card.
[05:43] <mlopezqc> did you restart after installing alsa?
[05:43] <jmd9qs> i'm loading avi's into avidemux-gui and then merging them via the append option. when i go to play the video to check the syncing, i get an error that says "trouble initiating audio device" and then there is no sound... what can i do to fix that?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> eseven73: i run several distros
[05:43] <breathsOf10> ubbotu
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> eseven73: my file server / torrents / amarok uses gentoo
[05:43] <breathsOf10> hi ubottu
[05:43] <breathsOf10> ubottu: hi
[05:43] <Parvo> no
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> eseven73: my main box runs kubuntu + fluxbox
[05:43] <nickrud> eseven73, and some of us got lazy. Still have the command line and all the debian goodies though ;)
[05:44] <breathsOf10> ubottu: kill
[05:44] <tj83> wolter, well, you cant trust everything you read, wish that were true and sometimes a given model device can change chipsets with the same model name.
[05:44] <GFree> ActionParsnip: in case you're curious - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/175503
[05:44] <breathsOf10> ubottu: die
[05:44] <breathsOf10> ubottu: roll over
[05:44] <nickrud> !botabuse | breathsOf10
[05:44] <mlopezqc> breathsOf10, is fun to bug a bot uh?
[05:44] <_Cid> more advanced dist than ubuntu ....interesting ...  I find Ubuntu quite advanced (came from Debian)
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> GFree: i only use ntfs on my xp lappy
[05:44] <breathsOf10> mlopezqc: lonely here man .. lonely
[05:44] <linxuz3r> hey guys
[05:45] <breathsOf10> hi man
[05:45] <micro01> hey can one of u guys help me out, im new to ubuntu and i was wondering a good tutorial or video to watch in order to learn how to use it
[05:45] <linxuz3r> hi breathsOf10
[05:45] <mlopezqc> hi
[05:45] <sleepy_cat> what is a .gob file
[05:45] <linxuz3r> hi mlopezqc
[05:45] <GFree> ActionParsnip: just making the point that this is something that others want too
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> micro01: i'd just use the system to learn and websearch when you get stuck
[05:45] <linxuz3r> whats a good game to play
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> GFree: i see
[05:45] <tj83> micro01, its a process of exploration, meeting your needs one function of a time..
[05:45] <breathsOf10> starcraft
[05:45] <mlopezqc> sleepy_cat, maybe a "gobernment" file, classified
[05:45] <Flannel> Guys, please take the non-support topics to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[05:45] <tj83> at*
[05:45] <GFree> ActionParsnip: though it seems so obvious that it probably won't ever get included into Ubuntu. :)
[05:45] <jmd9qs> micro01: go to ubuntuforums.org... they have loads of tutorials that you can use. i don't think there is video, though
[05:45] <unop> sleepy_cat, a game archive by the sounds of it
[05:45] <jp_sf> _Cid: I agree
[05:46] <micro01> action: i want a reall cool theme kind of like this one http://images18.fotki.com/v341/photos/9/920319/3896619/blueflux-vi.png?1156760493
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> linxuz3r: depends what games you like
[05:46] <breathsOf10> can u play starcraft in ubuntu?
[05:46] <breathsOf10> with wine or something?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | breathsOf10
[05:46] <linxuz3r> is starcraft 2 out?
[05:46] <sleepy_cat> nope its not a game file
[05:46] <breathsOf10> i hate having to switch to xp
[05:46] <mlopezqc> breathsOf10, pretty well
[05:46] <tj83> micro01, for themes i suggest installing emerald, easy to download and install themes
[05:46] <linxuz3r> i think windows 7 is gonna replace xp
[05:46] <breathsOf10> oh rly? how?? do tell .. is there a tut?
[05:46] <mlopezqc> breathsOf10, I usually do it
[05:46] <breathsOf10> i will stick with xp ..
[05:46] <micro01> where do i get emerals?
[05:47] <Flannel> !wine | breathsOf10
[05:47] <linxuz3r> i dont like it when switching to xp to play games
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> micro01: bad link dude
[05:47] <tj83> micro01, sudo apt-get install emerald
[05:47] <mlopezqc> breathsOf10, no, just install and play with wine
[05:47] <sleepy_cat> whats better in windows 7
[05:47] <sleepy_cat> compared to xp
[05:47] <breathsOf10> mlopezqc: wow!
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> breathsOf10: or try see if theres a loki installer
[05:47] <sleepy_cat> on a general level
[05:47] <Flannel> sleepy_cat: This is #ubuntu, you may be looking for ##windows
[05:47] <breathsOf10> ActionParsnip: wads loki? sry
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: depends on individual needs and tastes, and its offtopic for here too
[05:48] <micro01> action: what do u mean when u say "sudo apt-get install emerald"
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> breathsOf10: no, its an installer for linux games
[05:48] <Marupa> micro01, put that in your terminal
[05:48] <mlopezqc> breathsOf10, the best results I had with a cracked version, no installs
[05:48] <sleepy_cat> well tht was not an intentional question guys
[05:48] <linxuz3r> its hard to determine whats the difference between xp and windows 7
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> breathsOf10: websearch it
[05:48] <micro01> marupa: dont i need to download it first?
[05:48] <tj83> micro01, its a command line command, open applications- accessories - terminal and enter that command
[05:48] <sleepy_cat> its just tht i read here somewhere someone was talking about it so asked
[05:48] <linxuz3r> i use xp for games most of the time
[05:48] <Parvo> so am i restarting
[05:48] <sleepy_cat> just curious
[05:49] <Marupa> Wierd...
[05:49] <breathsOf10> ya games is the only reason i still go to xp
[05:49] <sleepy_cat> when will xp games start working efficiently on linux
[05:49] <Flannel> sleepy_cat: many already do
[05:49] <breathsOf10> if i can use ubuntu .. then :D :D
[05:49] <Marupa> sleepy_cat, when XP games are made on linux.
[05:49] <mlopezqc> sleepy_cat, I read somewhere that Windows 7 looks like Vista and have more problems that Vista, if it is possible
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: when they are coded in true opengl using proper api's instead of directx
[05:49] <tj83> sleepy_cat, historically linux has been intended to do "work" and to "work" well, play is a new addition to linux, and is swiftly evolving
[05:49] <sleepy_cat> mlopezqc: ohh thats bad
[05:49] <GFree> mlopezqc: it looks like vista but can run on XP-level hardware, for the most part
[05:49] <jmd9qs> i'm loading avi's into avidemux-gui and then merging them via the append option. when i go to play the video to check the syncing, i get an error that says "trouble initiating audio device" and then there is no sound... what can i do to fix that?
[05:50]  * jp_sf Microsoft is irrelevant
[05:50] <GFree> mlopezqc: it's actually quite good
[05:50] <linxuz3r> i dont know but it feels like my parents vista on the laptop is slower than my windows 7 on a quad core 4gb 512mb vid card
[05:50] <Marupa> sleepy_cat, Yes, some do work, but the majority have issues due to wine or the like.
[05:50] <unop> !windows
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: like doom3 runs amazingly in linux, as does WoW
[05:50] <Zombie_Gaz> Anyone know how to make program NOT appear in the system tray (specifically Rhythmbox)?
[05:50] <Marupa> wine incompatibilities*
[05:50] <Tonno> I have a Printer hp deskjet d4360 but Ubuntu 8.04 say that is a  hp deskjet d4300, how can I find the driver for a hp deskjet d4360?
[05:50] <Zombie_Gaz> erp programs
[05:50] <Flannel> Guys, please take the windows 7 vs XP vs Vista discussion elsewhere.  ##windows, or #ubuntu-offtopic even.
[05:50] <linxuz3r> i like the windows 7 ui
[05:50] <sleepy_cat> via wine
[05:50] <linxuz3r> sorry
[05:50] <linxuz3r> i thought i was on windows
[05:50] <Marupa> Anyone have any suggestions for my logitech USB headset question?
[05:51] <linxuz3r> Marupa what kind of usb headset?
[05:51] <linxuz3r> big ones?
[05:51] <mlopezqc> tonno, does it works with the d4300 driver?
[05:51] <Marupa> linxuz3r, Logitech Clearchat
[05:51] <breathsOf10> :D
[05:51] <micro01> i typed in that command and it asked me for my password, so i put it in, and then it said "couldnt find package emerald"
[05:51] <mlopezqc> tonno, give it a try
[05:51] <linxuz3r> Marupa u got a nice headset
[05:51] <Marupa> linxuz3r, Yup!
[05:52] <tyler_d> anyone know anything about dns in 6.06
[05:52] <tyler_d> ?
[05:52] <tj83> micro01, let me look, package name may have changed
[05:52] <Flannel> !anyone | tyler_d
[05:52] <micro01> tj83: ok
[05:52] <tj83> micro01, cant speak for 8.10 ibex but for hardy 8.04 it is in fact sudo apt-get install emerald
[05:52] <mlopezqc> tyler_d, server or client?
[05:53] <tj83> micro01, check for typo
[05:53] <tonno> mlopezqc, yes It work with d4300, but I don't know If it the right thing If I put that driver... just because it not the driver of d4360, It dousen't matter?
[05:53] <tyler_d> mlopezqc server
[05:53] <mlopezqc> Parvo, did you solve your problem?
[05:53] <jp_sf> tyler_d: and your question is ?
[05:53] <Guest78220> i need to remove a module but it is in use how can i stop it and remove?
[05:53] <mlopezqc> tonno, if it works, doesn't matter
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> tj83: same command dude
[05:53] <micro01> it still says cant find emerald
[05:54] <Zombie_Gaz> How do I make a program NOT appear in the system tray (specifically Rhythmbox)?
[05:54] <tj83> ActionParsnip, i kinda expected so but uncertain
[05:54] <mlopezqc> tyler_d, just look documentation about bind
[05:54] <tonno> mlopezqc, ohh well thanks... :P
[05:54] <mlopezqc> bind is by default the dns server in Linux
[05:54] <Rudd-O> hello guys.  I have a pen drive in which the first partition is FAT32 and has GRUB installed (/boot/grub, that boots and works correctly) and the second partition is an Ubuntu Live CD .iso image copied with dd straight into the partitoin.  How can I make GRUB load the kernel inside the second partition?  As in /casper/vmlinuz and stuff.
[05:54] <breathsOf10> Flannel: r u paid to be mod or volunteer?
[05:54] <GFree> Zombie_Gaz: have you looked around in Rhythmbox's options? There mighjt be a checkbox or something
[05:55] <breathsOf10> Flannel: dun need to answer if u dun wanna ;)
[05:55] <Rudd-O> when I try to tell grub to load the kernel from that partition, it says "Cannot mount selected partition".  It's as if GRUB cannot read CD images.
[05:55] <micro01> do i have to download emerald before i install it?
[05:55] <Rudd-O> any ideas?
[05:55] <Flannel> breathsOf10: We're volunteers, for support and operator stuffs.
[05:55] <tj83> micro01, click on system, admin- software sources and make sure the "cd-rom" is unchecked
 emerald is automatically downloaded when you ask to install it
[05:55] <kurrata> Zombie_Gaz:  edit=>plugins=> uncheck "Minimize to tray"
[05:55] <Zombie_Gaz> GFree: believe it or not... there isn't (at least in the lasest version... apparently there is in a older one).
[05:55] <Marupa> Rudd-O, You are wanting to boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD that's on a USB drive?
[05:55] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, Grub doesn't work well with FAT32, syslinux is better for that
[05:55] <Flannel> micro01: What version of Ubuntu are you using? (lsb_release -a will tell you)
[05:55] <tj83> micro01, once the command is functioning, it will download and install at that time
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Rudd-O: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/925285.html
[05:56] <sleepy_cat> well wine is good
[05:56] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, I recommend to use the 8.10 USB wizard
[05:56] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: FAT32 is not the problem, GRUB works *correctly
[05:56] <sleepy_cat> but it could be a lot better
[05:56] <GFree> Zombie_Gaz: doesn't matter for me, I use exaile. :)
[05:56] <Zombie_Gaz> kurrata: Thanks. Doesn't make sense that it is in pluggins but whatever. ;)
[05:56] <micro01> yes it is unchecked
[05:56] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: the wizard doesn't do what I want to do, and I cannot run it either because I'm doing this on a Fedora
[05:56] <Parvo> no
[05:56] <sleepy_cat> cause it does not support many software
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Rudd-O: http://www.linqi.org/linux/lomd.html
[05:56] <Rudd-O> Marupa: yes, the LiveCD is on a partition (not as a file, but raw)
[05:56] <sleepy_cat> like flvconvertet for an example
[05:56] <tj83> micro01, Flannel asked you a question, he has more experience than I
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Rudd-O: grub can boot pretty much anything
[05:57] <sleepy_cat> there is a lot more to it.
[05:57] <Rudd-O> no syslinux based solutions, thank you very much
[05:57] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, I think you are complicating things a bit
[05:57] <Rudd-O> ActionParsnip: correct, this is why I want to use grub.  But unfortunately grub cannot mount ISO images or so it seems
[05:57] <Parvo> im going to try and reinstall everything in diff order
[05:57] <Marupa> Rudd-O, Booting onto a LiveCD like that isn't recommended.  Using the USB wizard or UNetbootin is recommended.
[05:57] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: no, this is simpler than trying to install Ubuntu on my workstation
[05:57] <micro01> flannel did u ask me question?
[05:57] <Rudd-O> Marupa: that's a nonstarter, I use FEDORA on my workstation, and none of those programs work on fedora.
[05:57] <Flannel> micro01: What version of Ubuntu are you using? (lsb_release -a will tell you)
[05:57] <micro01> 8.10 i am using
[05:58] <Marupa> Rudd-O, UNetbootin works under wine for me.
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Rudd-O: id read those guides i gave, im fairly certain it can do it
[05:58] <tj83> good night all, time for some much needed sleep
[05:58] <Rudd-O> Marupa: I'm trying to do something that unetbootin cannot do, so discard it
[05:58] <Parvo> i'll fiddle around see what happends....
[05:58] <Rudd-O> the solution on the whilrpool forums page is a nonstarter because it requires me to RESPIN the iso image
[05:58] <Zombie_Gaz> kurrata: That didn't work. That just doesn't minimize to tray... it is still in the tray.
[05:58] <Flannel> micro01: Alright, please pastebin the output of th following: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install emerald
[05:58] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, Ok, you have the image, burn it and boot it
[05:58] <GFree> I try to avoid WINE unless absolutely necessary. Otherwise I wonder why I'm using Linux
[05:58] <Rudd-O> which is exactly what I want to avoid
[05:58] <sleepy_cat> is there a way to make win98 games run in xp or better in Linux
[05:58] <breathsOf10> Flannel: wow, respect =)
[05:58] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: I HAVE NO CD, why do you think I'm trying to use an USB drive in the first place?
[05:58] <sleepy_cat> cause due to not able to play in xp u have to go in 98 again
[05:58] <Flannel> sleepy_cat: You'd use wine to run them in linux.
[05:59] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, wait
[05:59] <sleepy_cat> wine works well for win98 games too
[05:59] <Tulga> I have 3 servers. I want use them like 1 big server. is it possible?
[05:59] <Rudd-O> ok, let me be more specific.  No liveusb.  No unetbootin.  No CD.  No respinning of ISO images.  All I want is GRUB to access /casper/vmlinuz, that is it.
[05:59] <Marupa> Tulga, Yes: Beowulf clusters.
[05:59] <tj83> Tulga, google clustering
[05:59] <sleepy_cat> Flannel: do u know any win98 game
[05:59] <Flannel> sleepy_cat: Nope
[05:59] <sleepy_cat> a basic game which can be downloaded for trial purpose
[05:59] <_Cid> minesweeper
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: syndicate :)
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> sleepy_cat: runs awesome in dosbox
[05:59] <Flannel> Rudd-O: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[06:00] <Tulga> Marupa: tj83: I configured heartbeat. but it is not correct. right?
[06:00] <_Cid> Syndicate...the old ...walk around city landscape with mini guns and blast everything that comes your way?
[06:00] <micro01> it is installing emerald now
[06:00] <Flannel> micro01: Good, good
[06:00] <kurrata> Zombie_Gaz:  by tray you mean those things wich u can choose by pressing alt+tab or small icons near clock(for windows)?
[06:00] <Marupa> Tulga, I've never done it personally, I just know there are many people who use that type of server clustering type.  I'd suggest doing what tj83 suggested, and looking up how to do it.
[06:01] <micro01> Flannel: what do i do now?
[06:01] <Marupa> Any suggestions on how to get my USB headset working under linux?
[06:01] <Eber> guys, I have ubuntu server 8.04 on my local network and wanna check out if my server configs are working... how can I access it?!? i'm behind a router...
[06:01] <Rudd-O> Flannel: no unetbootin, no copyying of the files inside the ISO.  I want to boot the *ISO* as a partition.
[06:01] <Tulga> ok
[06:01] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, dont be strong head, I think I can help you to do it with sysinstall
[06:01] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: I am not being a strong head, what I am trying to do requires me to boot the ISO image as a partition on the USB drive
[06:01] <Zombie_Gaz> kurrate: No... I mean the system tray (top right of desktop). On mine I have volume control and network connection by default.
[06:01] <mlopezqc> the thing is that you CAN'T boot an iso
[06:01] <micro01> Flannel: what is my next step?
[06:01] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: why?
[06:01] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: GRUB is said to support ISO9660 just fine
[06:01] <Rudd-O> so why not?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Rudd-O: your config is bad then
[06:02] <Marupa> mlopezqc, You can boot ISOs, it just requires specific precompiled binaries.
[06:02] <Rudd-O> ActionParsnip: no, it's correct
[06:02] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, yes but when de device is ISO9660 but you have a filesystem into another filesystem
[06:02] <Rudd-O> Marupa: oh great, great news, what grub stage binary do I need ?
[06:02] <magc> hey is it possible to see my linux partition from windows?'
[06:03] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: NO.  It's only ONE filesystem.  The iso one.
[06:03] <scientes> magc, yes there is a ext2 driver
[06:03] <Rudd-O> the iso was copied like this: dd if=/isoimage of=/dev/sdc2
[06:03] <magc> what is it called?
[06:03] <Marupa> Rudd-O, I'm not sure, I know only that it's possible, as multiple bootloaders can.
[06:03] <Rudd-O> I want to boot /casper/vmlinuz passing special parameters to casper
[06:03] <Rudd-O> Marupa: what about the famous stage2 eltorito thing?
[06:03] <magc> bm i see
[06:03] <eseven73> !iso
[06:04] <Marupa> Rudd-O, No idea, I have no need to boot ISOs, as I have an external USB enclosure for that purpose.
[06:04] <giacomo_c> hello, i, as the idiot i am, checked the Proposed Updates under synaptic and it installed a new fglxr i guess and has messed up my whole desktop... the screen is 1280x800 but the wallpaper is set at a smaller resolution and has a back drop, and anything off the screen leaves a mark behind
[06:04] <giacomo_c> how can i switch it back?
[06:04] <Rudd-O> Marupa: I am also using an external USB here
[06:04] <Rudd-O> I KNOW grub can read iso9660 filesystems, but grub is refusing to do so
[06:04] <Rudd-O> what do I need to do?
[06:04] <Marupa> giacomo_c, take off proposed updates and then apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[06:04] <giacomo_c> hmmm, i'll try it!
[06:05] <Marupa> giacomo_c, Oh, wait, hold on, read that wrong.
[06:05] <giacomo_c> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:06] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, maybe you can still use the USB wizard in Fedora, I'm thinking the following
[06:06] <giacomo_c> yeah... its weird, i can use the whole screen, but it only setup part of it... like conky is setup on the edge of the screen within my screen
[06:06] <micro01> how do i use emerald now that iv installed it?
[06:06] <mlopezqc> the wizard is in python
[06:06] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: I do NOT want to use the wizard, this is the third time you offered it
[06:06] <Marupa> giacomo_c, So whenever you move a window offscreen there's 'bits' left behind?
[06:06] <giacomo_c> yeah
[06:06] <Rudd-O> plus I already ran the wizard, it failed, I hacked on it to try to make it work, there are dependencies missing
[06:06] <Rudd-O> some python modules that only come with ubuntu, not with fedora
[06:07] <Rudd-O> so guys, all I want is that grub reads from an iso image that is raw copied onto a partition, that's it
[06:07] <giacomo_c> oh noes, he left!
[06:07] <giacomo_c> can anyone else tell me how to undo updates cause by "Proposed Updates"
[06:08] <Parvo> k night all
[06:09] <sandeep> any one help me with my display problem
[06:09] <giacomo_c> what happened with you sandeep?
[06:09] <sandeep> my graphics card is not working properly
[06:09] <sandeep> im not etting better resolution
[06:09] <giacomo_c> what kinda card is it?
[06:09] <sandeep> intel x3100
[06:09] <Roasted> my microphone does not work. It is not muted, but the hardware works fine cause it works in vista. Anybody have any ideas??
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> sandeep: run pspci | grep -i vga
[06:10] <sleepy_cat> sandeep: is it supported by your motherboard
[06:10] <Zombie_Gaz> How does one remove programs from the system tray (beside using check boxes provided by the programs themselves)? Is there a system tray manager that anyone knows of?
[06:10] <sandeep> yes it is
[06:10] <giacomo_c> what is the name of the file that keeps fglrxinfo?
[06:11] <sleepy_cat> can u tell me some basic game of win98 easy downloadable which runs from wine
[06:11] <_anu> what's wrong with " mv calcincome.* calcincomemacro.* " ?
[06:11] <corey> so I copied the live cd to a partition which I booted grub from.. it gave me a busybox prompt at initramfs. what is the command to start the install?
[06:11] <sandeep> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[06:12] <sandeep> i want to install the latest intel driver
[06:12] <sandeep> i think it is the driver problem
[06:12] <tokyoahead> guys I installed a package through a .deb file should it be not in the synaptics package manager??
[06:13] <micro01> action now that i have installed emerald how do i use it?
[06:13] <mlopezqc> Rumpa, are you still there?
[06:13] <_anu>  mv calcincome.* calcincomemacro.* ????
[06:13] <jp_sf> giacomo_c: like fglrxrc ?
[06:13] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, are you still there?
[06:14] <cakey> trivia check
[06:14] <cakey> !trivia
[06:14] <giacomo_c> yeah jp_sf
[06:14]  * bobbie4 runs away
[06:14] <Bz> how can i check what madwifi version my card is using?
[06:14] <Roasted> my microphone does not work. It is not muted, but the hardware works fine cause it works in vista. Anybody have any ideas??
[06:14] <_anu> how to rename couples of files ?
[06:14] <mlopezqc> !bind
[06:15] <_anu> such as namea*.* to nameb*.* ?
[06:15] <micro01> ? anyone
[06:15] <sandeep> anyone please help
[06:16] <sandeep> i need to know how to install a driver
[06:16] <_anu> mv -f ?
[06:16] <giacomo_c> oh no, i tried to take a screenshot, but it only took a screenshot of my screen inside of my bigger screen...
[06:16] <giacomo_c> how can i undo proposed updates?
[06:16] <Bookmark-NG> hello
[06:16] <Flannel> giacomo_c: What do you mean?
[06:16] <micro01> ne one know how to use emerald after its been installed?
[06:16] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: yes, I am still here
[06:17] <Flannel> giacomo_c: you've updated with -proposed enabled?
[06:17] <giacomo_c> i checked the proposed updates, then did an update and now it's messed up my display
[06:17] <Rudd-O> I have basically given up and now I am copying the kernel and initrd to the GRUB directory, which is precisely what I wanted to avoid
[06:17] <_anu> how to rename A*.* files to b*.* files ?
[06:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a netscape for ubuntu?
[06:17] <giacomo_c> it doesn't seem to have the right resolution for the screen, though it's showing me the full screen, but the wallpaper is only in a smaller portion with the outside just living marks from the windows
[06:18] <_anu> hello
[06:18] <Bookmark-NG> hi
[06:18] <breathsOf10> hi
[06:18] <unop> _anu,  make a backup of your data first.   rename 's/^A/b/' A*.*
[06:19] <_anu> ????
[06:19] <l3d> I was wondering what does the first line in someones firestarter say at the external network interface after the If="what is here"
[06:19] <_anu> any easier command ?
[06:19] <_anu> i just can't understand
[06:19] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, I read something interesting
[06:19] <unop> _anu, isn't that easy enough?
[06:19] <Bookmark-NG> whats the different between McCaslin & Menlow platform?
[06:19] <mlopezqc> http://mgerards.net/blog/?p=16
[06:19] <giacomo_c> does anyone know how to remove proposed updates?
[06:20] <ikonia> Bookmark-NG: not for this channel
[06:20] <mlopezqc> is about GRUB 2
[06:20] <l3d>  I  mean in the etc/firestarter/config
[06:20] <Roasted> my microphone does not work. It is not muted, but the hardware works fine cause it works in vista. Anybody have any ideas??
[06:20] <ikonia> giacomo_c: you have to disable the proposed repo
[06:20] <Bookmark-NG> Ikonia where should i go?
[06:20] <unop> _anu,  for i in A*.*; do mv "$i" "${i/A/b}"; done
[06:20] <ikonia> Bookmark-NG: look for a hardware channel
[06:20] <giacomo_c> yeah, i disabled it
[06:20] <redlegion> i'm using "rc" as my shell, and .rcrc isn't loaded when I open xterm. anyone know how i can fix that?
[06:20] <_anu> upop , 's/^A/b/' ?
[06:20] <Bookmark-NG> thannks
[06:20] <_anu> what's that ?
[06:20] <ikonia> redlegion: rc ?
[06:21] <unop> _anu, replace  A found at the beginning of a line with b
[06:21] <redlegion> it's the default shell for plan9, ported to linux
[06:21] <giacomo_c> i disabled proposed updates, now i just want to know how to undo the updates it made
[06:21] <redlegion> it's pretty freakin sweet
[06:21] <ikonia> redlegion: I've never used that outside plan 9, so wouldn't know
[06:21] <_anu> upop , let me try :)
[06:21] <ikonia> giacomo_c: thats going to be quite tough due to the fact that they will be newer than the stable
[06:21] <redlegion> well, it might be applicable knowledge if someone uses tcsh, perhaps?
[06:21] <redlegion> or some similar shell?
[06:22] <ikonia> redlegion: tcsh uses .tcsh_profile or .profile on any login shell and works fine
[06:22] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: I also read that
[06:22] <l3d> I was wondering what does the first line in someones firestarter (etc/firestarter/configuration ) say at the external network interface after the If="what is here"
[06:22] <Rudd-O> it is interesting but grub 2 is not inf edora
[06:22] <giacomo_c> ikonia: yeah
[06:22] <giacomo_c> is there a way to see what updates happened when?
[06:22] <ikonia> redlegion: it is possible that your rc shell is not being launched as a "login" shell
[06:22] <ikonia> giacomo_c: read your dpkg logs
[06:22] <giacomo_c> where are those?
[06:22] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, or maybe you can use syslinux in the following way
[06:22] <_anu> upop : how to get help for "rename" ?
[06:22] <redlegion> ikonia, really... that's odd. what other than /etc/passwd would denote such a thing?
[06:22] <ikonia> Rudd-O: not interesting at all as no-one is using grub 2
[06:22] <lee> If anyone is familiar with compiz fusion (specifically compiz-fusion-icon) and has a few minutes, please pm me.
[06:22] <micro01> duz ne one know how to use emerald after its been installed?
[06:22] <ikonia> redlegion: how the shell is invoked
[06:23] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: and it is also not what I want, bceause casper CAN READ ISO images burnt to partitions
[06:23] <redlegion> ikonia, ah. makes sense.
[06:23] <ikonia> redlegion: eg: bash is invoked with --login (from memory) to be a login shell
[06:23] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: forget about syslinux, it is a piece of garbage and I WANT the GRUB menu
[06:23] <micro01> anyone?
[06:23] <ikonia> micro01: saying anyone is pointless
[06:23] <redlegion> ikonia, it might help explain why the damn thing works on the console, but not in an xterm instance :-D
[06:23] <redlegion> ikonia, thanks
[06:23] <ikonia> micro01: you get better responses if you don't speak in text speak and speak in clear english
[06:23] <giacomo_c> and i think it update the kernel too
[06:23] <unop> _anu, man rename  # and http://perldoc.perl.org/perlretut.html, http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html
[06:23] <ikonia> redlegion: thats a very common situation with all shells
[06:24] <mlopezqc> ok, I thought that you wanted to find a solution, any solution
[06:24] <ikonia> redlegion: so yes, I'd put money on that being the proble,m
[06:24] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: dpkg logs are in /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:24] <redlegion> ikonia, thanks for the help
[06:24] <ikonia> redlegion: no problem
[06:24] <mlopezqc> now I see that you want to know how to do it with GRUP
[06:24] <l3d> I was wondering what does the first line in someones firestarter (etc/firestarter/configuration ) say at the external network interface after the If="what is here"
[06:24] <lee> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and compiz-fusion-icon causes me to be logged out and prompted to log back in, but it never actually starts. I tried running it in terminal and I am getting a segmentation fault. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:24] <mlopezqc> but I think it is only available in GRUB 2, cause it have loopback support
[06:25] <qqx> could any of the volunteers here please tell me how to use the bluetooth headset as my default audio device?
[06:25] <unop> _anu,  a bash shell solution:  for i in A*.*; do mv "$i" "${i/A/b}"; done
[06:25] <_anu> " rename 's/^ab/abmcro/' ab*.* " ?
[06:25] <Rudd-O> I don't want loopback
[06:26] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, have you tried to use the autocomplete feature of grub command line?
[06:26] <_anu> i want to add mcro after
[06:26] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: precisely that feature gives me the "cannot mount selected partition"
[06:26] <unop> _anu, that works,  it would rename  ab.jpg  to abmcro.jpg
[06:26] <l3d> does anyone in here have firestarter installed
[06:26] <_anu> thank you upop
[06:27] <giacomo_c> ah, i could also pull up a history of what was installed via synaptic
[06:27] <mlopezqc> so GRUB CANNOT mount it
[06:27] <Rudd-O> grub> kernel (hd0,1)/[TAB] -> Cannot mount selected partition
[06:27] <unop> _anu, and  abxyz.jpg  to abmcroxyz.jpg
[06:27] <therealnanotube> l3d: not me...
[06:27] <giacomo_c> now i guess i just have to go back through and force each version to the one before it v0v
[06:27] <Roasted> my microphone does not work. It is not muted, but the hardware works fine cause it works in vista. Anybody have any ideas??
[06:27] <ikonia> giacomo_c: sounds sane
[06:28] <giacomo_c> back to the (intrepid-updates) version
[06:28] <giacomo_c> i hope that fixes this glitch
[06:28] <giacomo_c> aw, it won't let me :(
[06:28] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, you are really obstinated, but I don't criticize you, I'm the same way
[06:28] <l0fls> hey is their any one whos good with shell & terminal who can help meh
[06:29] <therealnanotube> l0fls: whats your question
[06:29] <ikonia> l0fls: you have to ask a question first
[06:29] <qqx> could any of the volunteers here please tell me how to use a bluetooth headset as my default audio device?
[06:29] <l0fls> oh sorry can i put a terminal output in here?!
[06:29] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: yeah, I like my stuff precise and I am persistent
[06:29] <Flannel> !paste | l0fls
[06:29] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a netscape for ubuntu?
[06:29] <crdlb> lee: please join #compiz-fusion
[06:29] <Bz> is there anyway to know what driver/version my wireless card is using right now? It is crashing my system...
[06:29] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: netscape is dead
[06:29] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ok
[06:30] <lee> All right.
[06:30] <therealnanotube> U-b-u-n-t-u: firefox
[06:30] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ty
[06:30] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: firefox is the current implmentation
[06:30] <l0fls> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102575/
[06:30] <redlegion> ikonia, thanks again! a simple XTerm*loginShell: true, did the trick! you guys are awesome.
[06:30] <l0fls> check it out im trying to install a iso mounting program and thats the output i get when i do it
[06:30] <Flannel> !iso | l0fls
[06:30] <l0fls> and if i take it to the directory of the install.sh it gives me same thing
[06:30] <Out_Cold> i have a external HD that used to auto-mount. I use it to go between windows and ubuntu on separate machines. Now when I plug it into my ubuntu it won't auto-mount with an error that I no longer have permission. I then have to mount using "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /path/ -o force". Question is: is there a way to make it go back to auto-mounting??
[06:30] <ikonia> l0fls: what are you trying to actually do
[06:30] <therealnanotube> l0fls: looks like an error in install.sh
[06:30] <l0fls> i know how to do it threw terminal
[06:30] <giacomo_c> lul, apparently logging out fixed the problem, its back to normal now... geesh
[06:30] <l0fls> but its annoying
[06:30] <ikonia> l0fls: what are you trying to actually do
[06:31] <unop> redlegion,  you could have .profile source .rcrc if the current shell is rc instead
[06:31] <l0fls> install a iso mounting program
[06:31] <cakey> mount
[06:31] <ikonia> l0fls: mount is an iso mounting program
[06:31] <l0fls> but its in termina
[06:31] <ikonia> l0fls: thats all you need
[06:31] <cakey> sudo mount
[06:31] <l0fls> terminal
[06:31] <cakey> make a script
[06:31] <cakey> ._.
[06:31] <Guest78220> i need to copy some files into my /usr/lib....... but i get permission denied how do i gain permission?
[06:31] <cakey> #!
[06:31] <FloodBot3> cakey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <l0fls> .... i know u guys are probly gurus
[06:31] <l0fls> lol
[06:31] <therealnanotube> Guest78220: use sudo
[06:32] <ikonia> l0fls: look at the permissions in the ISO directory
[06:32] <therealnanotube> !sudo | Guest78220
[06:32] <Out_Cold> Guest78220, try 'sudo cp /files/to/copy /move/to/here/
[06:32] <Flannel> l0fls: I believe if you right click the iso, there's an option to mount it
[06:32] <Guest78220> ok Out_Cold thats what i needed
[06:32] <mlopezqc> Out_Cold, your problem is that you didn't unplug the HDD properly in WIndows
[06:33] <Guest78220> is there not a way to do it without terminal?
[06:33] <Out_Cold> but why do i lose my permissions?
[06:33] <qqx> could any of the volunteers here please tell me how to use a bluetooth headset as my default audio device?
[06:33] <Roasted> So, my microphone doenst work. And I dont know why. Can anybody help?
[06:33] <l0fls> flannel thtas a no go
[06:33] <mlopezqc> you didn't
[06:33] <Rudd-O> qqx: if you are using pulseaudio, it should just be a matter of selecting it as the default audio device in PulseAudio Volume Control
[06:33] <Rudd-O> right click on the device, check the Default checkmark
[06:34] <Rudd-O> thats it
[06:34] <therealnanotube> Guest78220: you could start a file browser as root, with "sudo nautilus", and then use the gui...
[06:34] <Out_Cold> Roasted, try alsamixer in the terminal... make sure you turn on all mic devices...
[06:34] <Rudd-O> roasted: what problem are you experiencing?
[06:34] <l0fls> btw how are u guys sending messages to me like it makes ur name yellow
[06:34] <mlopezqc> just plug it in Windows, unplug it properly and you will be back in business
[06:34] <Guest78220> therealnanotube: ah i didnt think of that nice
[06:34] <unop> Out_Cold, your problem is that you didn't use the uid and gid options with your mount command
[06:34] <ikonia> l0fls: just type the name of the person you want to talk to first
[06:34] <ikonia> l0fls: see
[06:34] <Flannel> l0fls: By prefixing it with your name (hint, type a few letters of the nick, then hit tab)
[06:34] <ikonia> l0fls: or don't
[06:34] <Roasted> rudd - my problem is my microphone flat out doesn't work. I tried it in skype and raelized it didnt work. Then I tried it with sound recorder and I get no recording when I talk into it.
[06:34] <therealnanotube> Guest78220: :)
[06:34] <Out_Cold> unop, i used what buntu told me to use lol.... damned thankful it told me what to do lol
[06:34] <l0fls> ikonia: ia like this
[06:35] <ikonia> l0fls: bang on
[06:35] <l0fls> Flannel: or this
[06:35] <l0fls> lol
[06:35] <l0fls> nice
[06:35] <unop> Out_Cold,  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=$UID,gid=$UID /dev/sdb1 /path/ -o force
[06:35] <Roasted> out_cold - when I hit alsamixer in terminal I only get 1 thing listed, and its maxed.
[06:35] <l0fls> any one here use cedega?!?
[06:35] <Out_Cold> oh yea.... 8.10 seems to have taken out a lot of alsamixer options... not sure why though
[06:36] <monica> hello
[06:36] <pdroy> Roasted: are you sure you connected mic to the correct port
[06:36] <ikonia> l0fls: just ask the question you want the answer for
[06:36] <ikonia> l0fls: doesnt matter if anyone is using it - people know how to fix it
[06:36] <Roasted> pdroy - oh yeah. It works in Vista just fine. Then when I reboot (changing nothing) ubuntu just doesnt have any output when I try to record with it.
[06:36] <mlopezqc> hello monica
[06:36] <l0fls> well diablo 2 insall works fine
[06:36] <l0fls> when i run it i get put in play cd
[06:36] <l0fls> when its in
[06:37] <pdroy> Roasted: did you try playing around with the Mixer controls
[06:37] <ricardo_> hello
[06:37] <Roasted> pdroy - yep. I have microphone listed there, maxed, and not muted. I dont know what else to do.
[06:37] <pdroy> Roasted: well if it is not muted then you should be getting a feed back when you speak into the mic
[06:38] <giacomo_c> how can i add a trashcan to my desktop?
[06:38] <Roasted> pdroy - I get "feedback" but when I record something in sound recorder, I get nothing.
[06:38] <Out_Cold> anyone know how come alsamixer lost all of it's device options in 8.10?? i had problems trying to get certain things going and had to revert back to 8.04 to get the devices back in alsamixer.
[06:38] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: make a shortcut to the trash folder...
[06:39] <Rudd-O> Out_Cold: it's because alsamixer is now using the pulseaudio device.  You can revert to the old behavior by running alsamixer -c 0
[06:39] <Rudd-O> that will make alsamixer control the zeroth card on your system instead of the pulseaudio device
[06:39] <Roasted> pdroy - yeah, when I mute it, the feed back stops. When I unmute it, the feed back can be heard again. But even still, I cant actually record anything...
[06:39] <pdroy> Roasted: ahh I have had the same problem with a machine of mine, I had to pass some extra parameters to the driver when it loads to get it working but the fedd back stopped working after wards
[06:39] <l0fls> Any one know how to fix an error in cedega when you run diablo 2 and get Insert play disk when its in?!?!
[06:39] <Rudd-O> Roasted: the volume control you want is not the PLAYBACK one, but the RECORDING one
[06:39] <Out_Cold> do i lose out on any by reverting Rudd-O?
[06:39] <giacomo_c> therealnanotube: how do i do that?  could i make a launcher that was like nautilus trash:///
[06:39] <giacomo_c> or something like that?
[06:40] <pdroy> Roasted: whats your sound card model ?
[06:40] <Rudd-O> Out_Cold: no, you do not lose anything, alsamixer -c 0 shows you the mixer ciontrol board for the card, but it does not change anything permanently
[06:40] <tripchronic> if i cant mount an ntfs drive in ubuntu because of an unclean removal, will it still work if i have an xp virtual machine? or does ubuntu need to read it first
[06:40] <Roasted> Turtle Beach Montedo DDL 7.1 PCI
[06:40] <gbear14275> whats the most stable x-java-vm?  I've got three to pick from but have never heard of icedtea
[06:40] <Roasted> Cmedia 8768 chipset
[06:40] <Rudd-O> gbear14275: probably sun's
[06:40] <Roasted> Rudd-o - Oh, okay. Is "Microphone Capture" what I want?
[06:40] <Out_Cold> and it's session dependant Rudd-O?
[06:40] <gbear14275> and two of them appear the same...
[06:40] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: hm, don't know, try it. :) the actual trash folder is in ~/.local/share/Trash/
[06:40] <Rudd-O> Roasted: correct, you need to select microphone capture, and then alter the capture level.
[06:40] <gbear14275> Rudd-O: that the gcj one?
[06:40] <l0fls> does anyone know how to hide a terminal so it doesent show on the bottom screen
[06:40] <Rudd-O> gbear14275: not at all
[06:41] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: but i suppose if you make a launcher to "nautilus trash:///", it should work too
[06:41] <gbear14275> Rudd-O: which one is suns?  I can't tell
[06:41] <Prez00> hello
[06:41] <tripchronic> !repeat
[06:41] <Rudd-O> Out_Cold: no, it's not session dependent.  -c 0 is just temporary for that execution of alsamixer.  if you want volumes to be saved and restored upon login, may I suggest using kmix (the KDE mixer) for that purpose?
[06:41] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: but it's probably easiest to just stick a trash icon on the panel... (right click panel, add to panel, trash)
[06:41] <Rudd-O> gbear14275: sun-java
[06:41] <giacomo_c> therealnanotube: no, that did it
[06:41] <giacomo_c> the command just as nautilus trash:///
[06:41] <giacomo_c> hahaha, sweet
[06:41] <ricardo_> i need help mounting my hard drives
[06:41] <giacomo_c> something actually was just that easy
[06:41] <Out_Cold> thanks Rudd-O will check it out.
[06:41] <Rudd-O> trash:///////////////
[06:41] <Rudd-O> hahaha
[06:42] <Rudd-O> Out_Cold: no prob
[06:42] <Roasted> Rudd-0 - Maybe this is part of my problem. "Microphone Capture" has 2 icons under it. One is for mute, the other... I dont know... but the otehr has a red X over it. If I select it to get the red X off, exit, and go back in to my sound control, the red X reappears. I'm wondering if that's my problem... but how do I fix that?
[06:42] <Rudd-O> ricardo_: ok lay it out man
[06:42] <GFree> ricardo_: can you be more specific
[06:42] <giacomo_c> does Rudd-O not get the /// part?
[06:42] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: nice :)
[06:42] <l0fls> so how do i mount an iso again?!?!?!
[06:42] <unop> !iso > l0fls,
[06:42] <Prez00> hello, got latest ubuntu, i use gmail imap with evolution, sometimes the damn evolution seems to download all my headers from my inbox, and takes forever, i thought i had set everything for downloading the messages locally, any web pages with tips for evolution settings?
[06:42] <l0fls> !osp
[06:42] <l0fls> !iso
[06:42] <tripchronic> if i cant mount an ntfs drive in ubuntu because of an unclean removal, will it still work if i have an xp virtual machine? or does ubuntu need to read it first
[06:42] <Rudd-O> Roasted: that's a glitch on your sound card.  look, I use kmix.  on kmix I select capture on the source I want to capture, but I DO NOT alter the volume on it to change the capture volume, there is a SEPARATE slider named CAPTURE for that.
[06:42] <GFree> l0fls: I can tell you a way but it involves using the command line
[06:43] <ricardo_> when i try to access my 2 external hard drives i get this error "cannot mount volume"
[06:43] <Out_Cold> l0fls,  sudo mount /path/to/iso /folder/to/mount/to
[06:43] <Rudd-O> Prez00: you mean disconected imap is not working correctly?
[06:43] <GFree> Out_Cold: is it really that simple?
[06:43] <Rudd-O> tripchronic: we don't know
[06:43] <Roasted> rudd-o - so what do you suggest I do, exactly?
[06:43] <giacomo_c> now back to figuring out this stupid usb headset problem...
[06:43] <Out_Cold> am i missing something GFree?
[06:43] <Rudd-O> Roasted: use kmix, fiddle around with the controls *there*.  or alsamixer -V all
[06:43] <therealnanotube> giacomo_c: good luck... :)
[06:43] <tripchronic> Rudd-O DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[06:43] <GFree> Out_Cold: I was thinking: mount -o loop -t iso9660 nameoffile.iso /path
[06:43] <fakeraol> bascht: hallo! hast du meine msg bekommen eben?
[06:43] <Rudd-O> alsamixer -V all is pretty cool for that stuff
[06:44] <Prez00> Rudd-O: example, i just opened evolution right now, connected and it is downloading seemlingly the whole inbox again...
[06:44] <Rudd-O> tripchronic: that has nothing to do with your problem.
[06:44] <tripchronic> Rudd-O thanks
[06:44] <Rudd-O> Prez00: probably the local database was just corrupted and evo is redownloading to be on the safe side
[06:44] <eseven73> The multiple "??!?!!?!?!" at the end of a question is very rude not to mention poor grammar. A single '?' will do.
[06:44] <Out_Cold> i occasionally use 2 ??'s
[06:44] <GFree> I don't understand, I was always shown the loop/iso9660 crap, how has it changed?
[06:44] <Prez00> Rudd-O: does this all the time, could it be i have exceeded 2GB or something, is that a limitation?
[06:45] <therealnanotube> eseven73: but it's ok as long as you put in some "1"s or "one"s :)
[06:45] <Roasted> rudd-o - where is kmix when you install it?
[06:45] <Rudd-O> roasted: kde multimedia package it's called
[06:45] <unop> GFree, you need those options - otherwise mount will fail
[06:45] <Rudd-O> Prez00: not sure.  I abandoned evolution THREE YEARS ago.  I now use kmail exclusively.  much less elegant, but much more integrated with KDE.
[06:45] <Roasted> rudd-o - but is it a program that I use to adjust things? Or is it just something I install and BAM that's it?
[06:45] <Out_Cold> then i was wrong.... D- for moi
[06:45] <GFree> unop, that's what I thought, but tripchronic said thanks so I figured I was going too far
[06:45] <Rudd-O> I wish I hadnt though, turns out the only way to sync up with my iphone is using evo.
[06:45] <eseven73> therealnanotube: haha this is true :)
[06:45] <GFree> no matter
[06:45] <Rudd-O> Roasted: it is a program to adjust mixer levels.
[06:46] <Rudd-O> you run kmix, it shows up in your notification area like a little speaker.
[06:46] <Roasted> rudd - o - I cannot findit. I just installed it *shrug*
[06:46] <Rudd-O> roasted: alt+f2, type kmix
[06:46] <l0fls> Guys where would i mount the iso if i want cedega to detect it?!?!
[06:46] <Prez00> Rudd-O: ok, thanks
[06:46] <Rudd-O> kmix is saved in your session so if you close your session it will reopen again when it startsup, and if you have set up the options in the menu, you can have it restore your volume levels
[06:46] <Rudd-O> I think it does that by default, but I don't remember
[06:47] <Rudd-O> ah the mousewheel on the top of the speaker lets you quickly raise/lower volume
[06:47] <Rudd-O> the speaker icon I mean
[06:47] <nsadmin> I wouldn't say it's rude... if the originator didn't intend rudeness, then the listener's sense of rudeness (1) is only in his own mind and (2) is not based on any sense of reality... but while it is not rude, it does have the tendency to redirect attention
[06:47] <l0fls> And how do i Verify the iso md5
[06:47] <Roasted> rudd - o - BAM. Worked. I have mic feedback now. Why in the world cant I get that to work in the regular volume control though man??
[06:47] <Rudd-O> Roasted: no idea, man.
[06:47] <therealnanotube> l0fls: "md5sum -c"
[06:47] <Rudd-O> Roasted: remember that having mike feedback is not the same as having mike selected for recording, nor is it the recording level of your mike
[06:48] <ricardo_> i'am new here i need help mounting my 2 external hard drives
[06:48] <therealnanotube> l0fls: or to just calculate the sum, just md5sum
[06:48] <ricardo_> i need some support
[06:48] <ricardo_> can someone help me?
[06:48] <Roasted> rudd - o - I understand that. I'm just failing to see what kmix does that allows my microphone to work that the regular volume control doesn't.
[06:48] <Rudd-O> ricardo_: dude, explain your problem
[06:49] <Rudd-O> Roasted: probably because kmix has more comprehensive controls
[06:49] <Roasted> rudd - o - Does kmix start automatically upon a fresh system restart?
[06:49] <nsadmin> ricardo_: do they show up?
[06:49] <ricardo_> they show up
[06:49] <ricardo_> but when i try to open them
[06:49] <ricardo_> i get an error
[06:49] <Rudd-O> Roasted: only if you leave it open and close your session,  then gnome would arguably save it in its session.
[06:49] <therealnanotube> ricardo_: make sure they have actual filesystem on them...?
[06:49] <ricardo_> it says cannot mount volume
[06:49] <nsadmin> does it say why?
[06:49] <Rudd-O> I don't remember if that is an option you need to select or not, but here I have automatic session save in kde, and it saves all programs when I log out
[06:49] <therealnanotube> ricardo_: and see what messages you get if you try to mount them manually with 'mount' ?
[06:50] <Rudd-O> ricardo_: ok, what program gives you that error message?
[06:50] <Roasted> rudd - o - "close" my session? Meaning if I lose power and boot back up, I'll have to reopen kmix to get microphone capabilities?
[06:50] <ricardo_> when i go to my computer
[06:50] <therealnanotube> Rudd-O: gnome by default doesn't save all running programs in session. but that can be set in system -> prefs -> sessions
[06:50] <Rudd-O> Roasted: what i mean is that when you log out, your programs are saved in the "session", and when you log back in, your programs are restored.  But if you never log out, then the programs may fail to be saved in the sessionl.
[06:50] <l0fls> therealnanotube:  what should the md5 sum be?!?
[06:50] <therealnanotube> Rudd-O: i find it better to manually add stuff to session startup.
[06:50] <Rudd-O> therealnanotube: thanks for the tip.  heads up roasted.
[06:51] <therealnanotube> l0fls: whatever the website where you got the iso says the md5sum should be
[06:51] <Out_Cold> l0fls, depends on what the .iso is
[06:51] <Rudd-O> therealnanotube: I don't.  Session autosave saves me a lot of time
[06:51] <ricardo_> this is the error i get when i try to acess my hard drive in my computer "CANNOT MOUNT VOLUME"
[06:51] <Rudd-O> ricardo_: please respond the question: how are you trying to access the hard drive?
[06:51] <Roasted> I'm still not hearing any output in skype.
[06:51] <Roasted> This is unreal.
[06:51] <Roasted> 3 hours trying to get skype working.
[06:51] <Roasted> I just might kill myslef. AHH
[06:51] <FloodBot3> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:51] <ricardo_> through my computer
[06:51] <ricardo_> i click them
[06:52] <therealnanotube> Rudd-O: well, i guess that depends on your usage pattern... :)
[06:52] <l0fls> what if its a torrented iso
[06:52] <ricardo_> and i get that error automatically
[06:52] <Rudd-O> therealnanotube: correct.
[06:52] <Rudd-O> Roasted: wait.  you cannot hear any oputput?
[06:52] <Rudd-O> ok roasted lets start from the top
[06:52] <Out_Cold> Roasted, i tried skype too... i got it working in 8.04 by adjusting the mic input in the skype program..
[06:52] <l0fls> therealnanotube:  what if its a downloaded torrent
[06:52] <nsadmin> ricardo_ ok, what format are the drives in? what os formatted them?
[06:52] <Rudd-O> Roasted: what happens when you call the callt esting service?
[06:52] <Roasted> rudd - o - In sound recorder, I have microphone output. In skype, I dont.
[06:53] <Rudd-O> Roasted: did you call the call testing service?  what happened?
[06:53] <therealnanotube> l0fls: every file has a different md5sum. so... find out what it should be. if there's no md5sum provided for it, then... you have nothing to check. but anyway, torrent protocol does error checking anyway, so you don't have to worry about md5sums, generally.
[06:53] <Roasted> rudd - o - I have two skype accounts, and I was calling one from the other from my desktop to laptop. But my laptop battery just died.
[06:53] <Roasted> I did call the testing service. I hear the lady talk. But I dont hear my voice playback after I record my message.
[06:53] <Rudd-O> Roasted: I am going to have to ask you again.  What happens when you call the call testing service?
[06:53] <Rudd-O> oh, you hear the LADY TALK?  Then you ARE GETTING OUTPUT.
[06:53] <ricardo_> NTFS
[06:53] <Rudd-O> what you are not getting, is INPUT
[06:53] <ricardo_> xp
[06:53] <Roasted> RIGHT.
[06:53] <Roasted> yeah
[06:53] <Roasted> my bad?
[06:53] <Bugatti`> hey
[06:53] <Bugatti`> what's happen
[06:53] <Rudd-O> Roasted: well, that was kind of an important distinction
[06:54] <Bugatti`> anyone from long island?
[06:54] <Rudd-O> Roasted: ok, so open your kmix mixer
[06:54] <Roasted> my apologies
[06:54] <Roasted> k
[06:54] <Rudd-O> right click the icon
[06:54] <l0fls> Bugatti`:  im from long island city
[06:54] <Out_Cold> ricardo_, you might need to install the ntfs-3g from the package manager..
[06:54] <Rudd-O> then click show mixer
[06:54] <fakhir> hey i am hosting a site for another person on my server and what to give him ftp access without giving him an account on the system itself. what are my options? is there a guide? i looked around for a while but did not find any solid information.
[06:54] <Rudd-O> Roasted: describe that mixer to me
[06:54] <Bugatti`> l0fis
[06:54] <Rudd-O> fakhir: that is quite complicated to setup.  you might be interested in DTC
[06:54] <Roasted> Front, PCM, CD, Mic, Mic Boost.
[06:55] <Rudd-O> (google DTC gplhost)
[06:55] <Rudd-O> ok
[06:55] <ricardo_> i installed it already but it doesnt mount my hard drives
[06:55] <Bugatti`> im gonna invite you
[06:55] <Roasted> Nothing muted, all levels up, "capture" checked in Mic (capture)
[06:55] <Rudd-O> you are good
[06:55] <Rudd-O> now in kmix, go to prefs -> configure channels
[06:55] <gbear14275> anyone know what java plugin to use with firefox for 64 bit?  I have a prompt here with 3 options, 2 IcedTea and 1 GCJ...  Where is Sun's?
[06:55] <Rudd-O> in the window that appears, CHECK ALL THE CHECKBOXES and then hit okay
[06:55] <Roasted> k
[06:55] <Jaffarkelshac> i am having a persistent problem, gnome-mplayer freezes and i have to kill it to open again and all sound is not available any more. I have to restart to fix this. any other fix for this annoying problem
[06:55] <Lazerath> HELP  HELP
[06:55] <Lazerath> SYMLINK include/asm -> include /asm-x86
[06:55] <Lazerath> make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'kernel/bounds.c' , needed by 'kernel/bounds.s'. Stop.
[06:55] <Lazerath> make[1]: *** [prepare0] error 2
[06:55] <FloodBot3> Lazerath: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:55] <Rudd-O> do you now have more mixers?
[06:56] <Roasted> a lot more
[06:56] <l0fls> Bugatti`:  what are you inviting me to?
[06:56] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: that depends, is it a kernel problem (are there any errors in the dmesg command output?)
[06:56] <Bugatti`> come
[06:56] <Bugatti`> pl
[06:56] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: if not, it is likely a pulseaudio problem
[06:56] <Bugatti`> plz
[06:56] <fakhir> Rudd-O, yeah that is what i found but it looked rather complicated so that is what brought me here. i would have thought there would be some simple solution.
[06:56] <Rudd-O> Roasted: awesome
[06:56] <Rudd-O> now is there a SPECIFIC slider for capture?
[06:56] <Rudd-O> I have two sound cards.  one of them doesn't and the other does.
[06:56] <Jaffarkelshac> i have a feeling it is pulseaudio, and if it how do i fix that Rudd-O
[06:56] <_anu> where can i upload the view the functions() forever?
[06:57] <Roasted> I believe so. I mean, its really close to AUX but I assume AUX is to another slider.
[06:57] <_anu> and view
[06:57] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: if the problem is fixed by merely logging off and then on (as opposed to restarting), then you know it's pulseaudio
[06:57] <Rudd-O> oh, well,
[06:57] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: let me restate what I just said
[06:57] <Lazerath> Help Help Help
[06:57] <Lazerath> SYMLINK include/asm -> include /asm-x86
[06:57] <Lazerath> make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'kernel/bounds.c' , needed by 'kernel/bounds.s'. Stop.
[06:57] <Lazerath> make[1]: *** [prepare0] error 2
[06:57] <FloodBot3> Lazerath: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <Roasted> rudd - o - I'm still not hearing my voice back with skype.
[06:58] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: if the problem is fixed by issuing "killall -KILL pulseaudio" in a terminal, thenr logging of and logging on again, then it is pulseaudio
[06:58] <Rudd-O> Roasted: ok, up the Capture slider, check the Mic Boost checkbox, and select Mic as the recording source.
[06:58] <Lazerath> hello
[06:58] <ricardo_> helloooooooooooooo
[06:58] <IEROMONAXOS> #ubuntu-gr
[06:58] <Rudd-O> Roasted: if not, you might want to check the skype preferences panel itself
[06:58] <Rudd-O> brb, gotta boot another machine in another room.
[06:59] <Out_Cold> Roasted, are you on the right mic input in skype?? i had like 3 or 4 when i only have 2 inputs..
[06:59] <Jaffarkelshac> Rudd-O: then its not pulseadio then coz logging does not fix it, and the kill command on pulseaudio is the same results
[06:59] <ricardo_> IM BILGATES NEPHEW I INSTALLED UBUNTU BECAUSE XP IS BULLSHIT
[06:59] <Rudd-O> yeah, usually there are several mic ouptuts
[06:59] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: kernel problem, either your card is faulty, or you have a really exotic card
[06:59] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a gui based client for svn in ubuntu/linux/
[06:59] <fulat2k> ?
[06:59] <Roasted> out_cold - I've got like 10 of them. I have 2 sound cards on this system. Onboard + PCI (Vista doesnt suport my PCI card)
[06:59] <whabooo> help i am trying to compile hplip and i get this after i do all the steps and get to the make command: [raj@localhost hplip-2.8.12]$ make
[06:59] <whabooo> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[07:00] <Roasted> out_cold - I've tried all different combinations. Nothing works with my microphone.
[07:00] <chris_> hi
[07:00] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: try getting an USB audio card as a loaner, disabling the builtin sound card in the BIOS, and using the usb sound card for a while.  your problems should disappear altogether.
[07:00] <Out_Cold> Roasted, try sifting through each... oh.. n/m lol
[07:00] <nickrud> !language | ricardo_ (think disney G rated ;)
[07:00] <Roasted> I'm on hour 3 trying to get this working.
[07:00] <Lazerath> hello
[07:00] <Roasted> Really just makes booting to vista look so much better at this point
[07:00] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: and report it as a bug, giving the devs ALL the info they rquesti, so they can fix it
[07:00] <Out_Cold> lol...NNOOOOOOOOOOOO Roasted
[07:00] <Roasted> but I hate resorting to that restart buton to "fix" problems
[07:01] <chris_> i cant seem to delete files in my samba share from windows. can i have some help please?
[07:01] <Rudd-O> Roasted: do you have pulseaudio?  perhaps pulseaudio is fucking your skype experience up.  I know that personally I have to stop ulseaaudio before using skype
[07:01] <l0fls> Smoking marijuna and using ubunut can be tricky
[07:01] <Rudd-O> killall -9 pulseaudio
[07:01] <tritium> Rudd-O: watch the language
[07:01] <Rudd-O> and then I rerun skype
[07:01] <Jaffarkelshac> i will stick with restarting for the mean time, and quit doing taxing things when playing video. Rudd-O
[07:01] <Roasted> Yeah, we gotta keep it G rated around here cause, ya know, kids will be in these rooms at 2 AM.
[07:01] <Rudd-O> tritium: okay, dude, but chill out, it's just a word
[07:01] <Roasted> *rolls eyes*
[07:01] <tritium> Rudd-O: channel policy
[07:01] <Rudd-O> Jaffarkelshac: ok
[07:01] <nickrud> Rudd-O, it's 4pm somewhere
[07:02] <Out_Cold> Roasted, it's not 2 here.....
[07:02] <chris_> 2am here
[07:02] <Roasted> nickrud - point?
[07:02] <Lazerath> it is 1 am here
[07:02] <Rudd-O> tritium: policy must match reality, not the other way around . nickrud: do you really think foreign language dudes will mind me saying a few cuss words?
[07:02] <chris_> is someone able to help me?
[07:02] <nickrud> Roasted, bad nick complete mixed with poor typing ;0
[07:02] <nsadmin> smoking marijuna and speling ubuntu or marijuana can be trikie
[07:02] <Lazerath> or me
[07:02] <tritium> Rudd-O: and reality is that ubuntu is popular, and used by children.  Keep it family friendly.
[07:02] <grayhane> I will be adding a high end video card to my system, will I need to do any re-configuring ?
[07:02] <l0fls> tritium: theres no better word than marijana would you rather me say cheeeba ganga
[07:03] <Roasted> rudd - o - Yes, I have pulseaudio. I thought about removing it but a lot of people said they experienced a lot more problems with pulse removed. Also, a lot of them confirmed they didnt need to remove pulse to get it work.
[07:03] <l0fls> nsadmin: yes it can
[07:03] <Lazerath> where can i learn how to build a kernel with out all the errors
[07:03] <nickrud> Rudd-O, not gonna get into an argument, this was decided long before you started visiting here
[07:03] <micro01> how do i download AIM for linux, i found a site
[07:03] <Lazerath> where can i learn how to build a kernel with out all the errors
[07:03] <Roasted> micro01 - just use pidgin
[07:03] <ikonia> Lazerath: read the kernel docs
[07:03] <micro01> i dont like pidgin
[07:03] <Lazerath> i have
[07:03] <Roasted> you prefer AIM over pidgin? Really?
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> micro01: Try empathy
[07:04] <Rudd-O> tritium, nickrud: you have a right to set up the policy.  I also have a right to CRITICIZE the policy.
[07:04] <Rudd-O> anyway
[07:04] <micro01> AIM.com has a linux version i would like to try
[07:04] <chris_> how can i delete files made by windows users in samba by using windows?
[07:04] <Rudd-O> I just wanted to comemnt that I got the live cd to work on an USB stick
[07:04] <ikonia> micro01: I'm sure there are docs that come with it
[07:04] <ikonia> Rudd-O: many people have
[07:04] <tritium> Rudd-O: doesn't matter.  You still have to *abide* by channel policy inside the channel.  Now, move on.
[07:04] <w3rd_> anyone use ubuntu with vmware server and have issues with usb?
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> micro01: and to be honest.. aim does not hold a candle to pidgin
[07:04] <Rudd-O> tritium: I am now, so I don't see why you have to repeat it.
[07:04] <ikonia> chris_: make sure the windows users have write access to the share and directory
[07:04] <Roasted> this channel is anal, like whoa
[07:04] <qqx> can anyone tell me how to set my Bluetooth headset as my default audio device?
[07:04] <Rudd-O> now all I want to do now to make it better is not having to copy the kernel and initrd to /boot
[07:05] <chris_> 0644
[07:05] <grayhane> chris_ try using MC it works well for that
[07:05] <chris_> is the mask
[07:05] <ikonia> chris_: mask it's the key - permissons on the file system AND share are
[07:05] <_anu> Are they OpenSource SourceCode Searching Tool? I want to upload
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Roasted: continue to insult people and you will be evicted.. so it will be one less problem for you
[07:06] <Roasted> I wasn't insulting anybody.
[07:06] <Roasted> But thanks.
[07:06] <chris_> ikonia what do i need to do to fix it?
[07:06] <Paddy_EIRE> yes you where
[07:06] <Rudd-O> Paddy_EIRE: roasted has not insulted ANYBODY
[07:06] <Roasted> Actually, I wasn't. But again, thanks.
[07:06] <ikonia> Rudd-O: Paddy_EIRE lets move along please
[07:06] <tritium> Stay on topic, please.
[07:06] <Paddy_EIRE> calling everyone anal aint insulting
[07:06] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, did you succeded?
[07:06] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[07:06] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: please.
[07:06] <Rudd-O> OT: E.R. and Private practice are up in eztv now
[07:06] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: yeah, absolute success
[07:06] <Roasted> Paddy_EIRE - I agree with you. It's not insulting.
[07:07] <Rudd-O> I wish I could have loaded the kernel directly from the iso, because that saves one step on my howto.
[07:07] <Rudd-O> but meh, it's not like I can code in assembler to fix that, right?
[07:07] <Roasted> wow
[07:07] <Roasted> did I just see that?
[07:07] <ikonia> Roasted: yes you did - please stop commenting on things, this is a support channel
[07:08] <Roasted> lol
[07:08] <qqx> can anyone tell me how to set my Bluetooth headset as my default audio device?
[07:08] <Rudd-O> wait, did I just get kicked for making the FIRST offtopic comment?
[07:08] <Roasted> Rudd - Any other ideas?
[07:08] <error404notfound> I tried to setup gfxboot-grub, and now I get : http://pastebin.com/m3ba2b6c6
[07:08] <Roasted> On my skype thing
[07:08] <Rudd-O> sorry, man, I'm out of ideas
[07:08] <bazhang> Rudd-O, Roasted take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:08] <ikonia> Rudd-O: no - you got removed because you where warned/asked to not be offtopic and follow the channels topic - you then posted OT#
[07:08] <Roasted> no thanks
[07:08] <chris_> ikonia how do i check to see if windows users have delete access in samba?
[07:08] <Out_Cold> Rudd-O, a question before i go.. kmix will overtake alsamixer options and can be set to start on new session?
[07:09] <ikonia> chris_: if the users have write access to the share, and write access to the file system, you should be fine
[07:09] <gbear14275> is there a 64 bit java browser plugin yet?
[07:09] <ikonia> gbear14275: no
[07:09] <Rudd-O> Out_Cold: yeah, kmix willr estore volumes when you log back on, if you open  it
[07:09] <Rudd-O> ikonia: the warning appeared on my screen AFTER I had already spoken off-topic
[07:09] <mlopezqc> Rudd-O, if you can make a howto and share it
[07:09] <_anu> Are they OpenSource SourceCode Searching Tool? I want to upload
[07:09] <Rudd-O> mlopezqc: I already wrote the howto
[07:09] <Out_Cold> cool.. thanks for your help mate...
[07:09] <ikonia> Rudd-O: no it didn't - tritium warned you you then posted
[07:09] <Out_Cold> and all the rest..
[07:09] <Rudd-O> I am polishing it and I will share it, indeed.
[07:09] <chris_> ikonia thats the problem, they can read and write, but they can't delete
[07:09] <_anu> Are they OpenSource SourceCode Searching Tool? I want to upload
[07:09] <qqx> methinks the ops spend more time booting and arguing of late then helping. please, assist me!
[07:09] <ikonia> _anu: no
[07:09] <Roasted> qqx - I concur
[07:10] <ikonia> _anu: any text editor can do it
[07:10] <fuzzybear3965> hey does anyone know if i can configure xrandr to work with compiz
[07:10] <tritium> qqx: we're dealing with trolls at the moment
[07:10] <ikonia> chris_: thats most odd, what does the samba server logs say when you try to delete it
[07:10] <Rudd-O> ikonia: you know what, perhaps you can go recruit some other people to help ubuntuers, because I really don't have time to be treated like your busboy.  So stick your rules up your ass, ungrateful SOB.  I'm outta here.
[07:10] <Out_Cold> goodnight or morning all.... take care.
[07:10] <nickrud> Rudd-O, Roasted you know, if you have issues or questions about how the channel is op'd, #ubuntu-ops is the place.
[07:10] <_anu> ikonia : i mean i can search it according to the category
[07:10] <ikonia> _anu: you can only search code you have
[07:11] <ikonia> _anu: so if you don't have the code - how can you search ?
[07:11] <qqx> tritium, oh ok, i see, you have some cleanup work to do
[07:11] <Roasted> It's just ironic. When I was going to other channels, I kept hearing bits and pieces about how nazi driven this channel is. Being an Ubuntu fan, I defended this place. But shit, this is laughable, guys. Calm down a little bit on your ban stick. Christ.
[07:11] <tritium> qqx: please, state your support question for the channel
[07:11] <qqx> can anyone tell me how to set my Bluetooth headset as my default audio device?
[07:11] <_anu> ikonia : i have some
[07:11] <ikonia> _anu: then any text editor can search the source code
[07:11] <xeer> I have ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso deflated to my partition, how can I install it through linux without restarting? (there are bugs preventing me from viewing the bios post)
[07:11] <chris_> ikonia it says access denied from windows. where is the log for samba located? i cant find it.
[07:12] <_anu> ikonia : are there better ways ?
[07:12] <nickrud> xeer, right click the downloaded iso , and select burn to disk
[07:12] <ikonia> _anu: thats all you need ????? you search for what you want, source code is just text
[07:12] <ikonia> chris_: /var/log/samba
[07:12] <nickrud> xeer, arh, didn't read fully, sorry
[07:12] <qqx> Roasted this channel is highly populated because it is well regulated
[07:13] <thyagu> this is the test
[07:13] <Lazerath> Help Help Help
[07:13] <Lazerath> SYMLINK include/asm -> include /asm-x86
[07:13] <Lazerath> make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'kernel/bounds.c' , needed by 'kernel/bounds.s'. Stop.
[07:13] <Lazerath> make[1]: *** [prepare0] error 2
[07:13] <_anu> i think text editor is a bit too primitive for sourchcode search and i can't share with others
[07:14] <Flannel> !paste | Lazerath
[07:14] <Flannel> Lazerath: You've been warned in the past about pasting.  Please don't do it again.
[07:14] <ikonia> Lazerath: you've also been told where to find information on building a kernel
[07:14] <Lazerath> ok i did not get how to use the paste web site
[07:14] <ikonia> Lazerath: this is not the correct support channel for kernel buidling
[07:14] <Lazerath> i looked at the files
[07:14] <qqx> ive scoured the net for tips on how to connect my bluetooth headset to my pc, and all i can get are ways to connect individual programs. i want to connect my entire system. Please could anyone help!?
[07:15] <Lazerath> well thanks for nothing on this worthless fucking channel
[07:15] <Flannel> Lazerath: You paste your stuff there, hit submit, and then give us the URL
[07:15] <thyagu> hi
[07:15] <LuckyDie> hi
[07:15] <eelriver> qqx, If your headset is recognized as an audio device you can set it as default with a ~/.asoundrc file
[07:15] <qqx> eelriver, i did
[07:16] <xeer> is there a way to init casper from terminal?
[07:16] <gbear14275> ikonia: WOO HOO, this legit? http://blogs.sun.com/joshis/entry/finally_it_s_here_java
[07:16] <eelriver> qqx, and what happened?
[07:16] <chris_> ikonia getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
[07:16] <qqx> nix
[07:16] <ikonia> gbear14275: looks it, although it looks like a development version
[07:17] <TwoEqualsTen> qqx, this works for some: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-230023.html
[07:17] <gbear14275> I'll give it a shot
[07:17] <ikonia> chris_: let me read up see what that error message means
[07:17] <doglong> someone can help me to uninstall djbdns in drapper server ?
[07:17] <TwoEqualsTen> qqx, with mixed results, they've achieved what you want. Some have lag issues, others, none.
[07:17] <daredevilthere> doglong: use apt-get remove
[07:18] <doglong> can't
[07:18] <qqx> ok im taking a look at it.
[07:18] <doglong> i have tried
[07:18] <gbear14275> hmm... how do  I install a .bin?
[07:18] <ikonia> gbear14275: make it executable and run it
[07:18] <ikonia> gbear14275: what do you want to install ?
[07:19] <daredevilthere> do can i create a script  to .bin exce
[07:19] <ikonia> daredevilthere: pardon ?
[07:19] <micro01> how do i make my desktop cool looking
[07:19] <TwoEqualsTen> I'm considering purchasing a netbook for school -- how big is a typical ubuntu install. I'm getting a SSD, so I need to know what I need for a base install and a few extra apps here and there.
[07:19] <gbear14275> this java plugin... says download and install... never used anything besides package managers before
[07:20] <daredevilthere> ikonia: i mean can i create a script to . bin binary
[07:20] <tritium> TwoEqualsTen: approximately 2-3 GB
[07:20] <Shovi> http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4861/9062ow3.jpg
[07:20] <ikonia> gbear14275: I'd advise you not to use that version unless you know what your doing
[07:20] <doglong> apt-get remove djbdns
[07:20] <doglong> Reading package lists... Done
[07:20] <doglong> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:20] <doglong> Package djbdns is not installed, so not removed
[07:20] <doglong> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[07:20] <FloodBot3> doglong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <Daisuke_Ido> TwoEqualsTen: there's an ubuntu netbook remix that is a better fit for netbooks
[07:20] <doglong> ??
[07:20] <daredevilthere> ikonia: like  sh scripts
[07:20] <ikonia> daredevilthere: . a binary ???? what do you mean
[07:20] <TwoEqualsTen> tritium, thanks. Daisuke_Ido, I'll look into that. Much appreciated.
[07:20] <micro01> hey guys how do i make a real cool desktop
[07:20] <gbear14275> ikonia: :( ok... any idea what the turn around time is before that might be available through a package manager?
[07:20] <daredevilthere> ikonia: i mean so that code is not viewable
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> TwoEqualsTen: no problem - it actually looks quite nice
[07:21] <ikonia> micro01: use themes and effecs like compiz-fushion
[07:21] <tritium> doglong: use the actual package name
[07:21] <micro01> how do i use that? ikonia
[07:21] <doglong> any otherway to stop djbdns servide ?
[07:21] <ikonia> gbear14275: it's development, so I wouldn't exepct it in a stable release any time soon
[07:21] <JohnAnderson> hello
[07:21] <ikonia> daredevilthere: you need to compile it using a programming language, shell scripts are readable
[07:21] <sidney> i have typed the commands to allow windows and linux to communicate the instructions say i should save it. do i just close the terminal to achieve this save?
[07:21] <JohnAnderson> i need help with getting ubuntu to dual boot alongside with winxp
[07:21] <micro01> ikonia how do i use comoiz fuzion
[07:22] <ikonia> !compiz > micro01
[07:22] <ikonia> micro01: that link ubottu has sent you should give you an overview
[07:23] <JohnAnderson> anyone?
[07:24] <bazhang> !dualboot
[07:24] <gbear14275> whats an RPM?
[07:24] <bazhang> JohnAnderson, which is installed first
[07:24] <ikonia> gbear14275: redhat package manager
[07:24] <chris_> ikonia any luck?
[07:25] <bazhang> gbear14275, package for redhat fedora suse and the like; debian ubuntu use .deb packages
[07:25] <ikonia> chris_: that initially looks like your not actually connected, although that doesn't make sense
[07:25] <sfuentes> how do you terminate X without kill signals?
[07:25] <shesek`> how do I add a user to a group ?
[07:25] <ikonia> shesek`: use the useradmin gui
[07:25] <JohnAnderson> bazhang i mean, i have two harddrives
[07:25] <JohnAnderson> one with linux on it the other has windows
[07:25] <tritium> shesek`: adduser <username> <group>
[07:25] <ikonia> shesek`: it's in system -> administration -> users and groups
[07:26] <tripchronic> could someone link me to a how to on formatting under intrepid?
[07:26] <bazhang> !adduser
[07:26] <tritium> shesek`: use sudo, of course
[07:26] <bazhang> !gparted
[07:26] <tripchronic> thanks
[07:26] <chris_> ikonia yea its connecting, the files xfer to the samba from windows and then can be moved back, but the files on the samba share cannot be deleted and it says denied access from windows
[07:27] <persia> Hello.  I'm using Thunderbird in intrepid, and the folder selection pane no longer appears in the UI.  How might I restore it?
[07:27] <ikonia> chris_: out of interest what user name are you connecting to the samba share as (windows username)
[07:27] <RemsSs> Hi everybody
[07:27] <chris_> ikonia i am using a user name set up in ubuntu from useradd
[07:28] <ikonia> chris_: so your connecting to the share using a username that is setup in ubuntu, can you show me your smb.conf file in a pastebin please ?
[07:29] <chris_> i would, but i think im going to have to let it rest and get some sleep
[07:29] <ikonia> chris_: no problem
[07:29] <chris_> nitey ikonia, all
[07:29] <chris_> thanks
[07:30] <daredevilthere> ikonia: which languge can i use do compile .sh scripts
[07:30] <ikonia> daredevilthere: you don't
[07:30] <ikonia> daredevilthere: shell scripts are text based
[07:31] <hentaixp> their like bat files I believe
[07:31] <ikonia> correct
[07:31] <hentaixp> .bat
[07:31] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/1392 persia to do with this? did not see that bug on launchpad
[07:34] <persia> bazhang, I've not seen that before.  I'm not sure it's related.
[07:34] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/234134 or was it this persia
[07:34] <persia> bazhang, No, not that at all.
[07:35] <JohnAnderson> so anyone know if i can correct this easily
[07:35] <persia> bazhang, It's that the folder selection panel is missing, rather than changes to the mail display panel.
[07:35] <JohnAnderson> or do i need to reinstall ubuntu on the harddrive set as master with the other as slave
[07:35] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: should be quite straight forward
[07:36] <JohnAnderson> im a newbie tho!
[07:36] <bazhang> persia, dont see that bug, but will look a bit more
[07:36] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: thats fine - explain the current situation, what's currently installed
[07:36] <JohnAnderson> i dont even know the difference between c and c++ except the two plus'
[07:36] <JohnAnderson> okay
[07:36] <daredevilthere> I need sometype of tutorial for awk for text manipluation
[07:36] <JohnAnderson> wow alot of ppl from san antonio
[07:37] <JohnAnderson> im trying to get a boot manager to load up on startup so i can either boot windows from one harddrive or linux from the other
[07:37] <JohnAnderson> from my understanding this would have been done automatically had i installed ubuntu on the master with the other hd as slave.. but i didnt do this.
[07:37] <persia> daredevilthere, There's a fairly comprehensive manual at http://people.cs.uu.nl/piet/docs/nawk/nawk_toc.html
[07:37] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: master/slave don't mean anything - so don't worry about that
[07:37] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: you installed windows first ? yes/no ?
[07:38] <JohnAnderson> windows was already installed on the first harddrive
[07:38] <codpawn> I have booting problems with my ubuntu can any one help me?
[07:38] <daredevilthere> thanks persia
[07:38] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: ok, so you installed ubuntu to the second disk with the windows drive still plugged in? yes/no ?
[07:39] <JohnAnderson> no i removed the windows drive entirely and installd it on the second by itself
[07:39] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: ok, thats the problem
[07:39] <JohnAnderson> i know ;(
[07:39] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: you may find it easier/quick to put both disks in as you want them, then re-install ubuntu, it will do everything for you (should do)
[07:39] <JohnAnderson> thats what i figured i'd need to do..
[07:39] <JohnAnderson> which is okay!
[07:39] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: that would be the quickest direct route
[07:40] <macvr> hi all... how do i prevent my wireless from connecting to a particular network?
[07:40] <qqx> can anyone Please Please Please tell me how to use my bluetooth headset as my default audio device? no dead end links please.
[07:40] <ikonia> JohnAnderson: there are others, but if your new, you may find the re-install route quicker and easier
[07:40] <Flannel> JohnAnderson: Its actually not too difficult to add windows to your grub config
[07:40] <JohnAnderson> Flannel how would i do that ??
[07:40] <x_dimitri> my wireless card isn't working under intrepid. has anyone experienced similar problems? I'm on a dell D830 laptop.
[07:40] <ikonia> Flannel: he's not got grub booting yet,
[07:40] <JohnAnderson> i know that hd's are reffered to as hda and hdb
[07:40] <gbear14275> anyone using brub2?
[07:40] <Flannel> ikonia: oh?
[07:40] <JohnAnderson> nope
[07:40] <persia> bazhang, Apparently I just can't use a mouse: all fixed.  Thanks anyway.
[07:40] <gbear14275> grub2?*
[07:40] <daredevilthere> how can i start my own script on startup.that Script logins automatically on service provider login page?
[07:40] <ikonia> Flannel: not even installed, grub is installed on the secondary disk,
[07:40] <ikonia> Flannel: hence why a re-install (put grub on the right mbr) would be quicker
[07:40] <Flannel> ikonia: He can just set the secondary disk as the primary boot device
[07:41] <macvr> Flannel: ikonia :  how do i prevent my wireless from connecting to a particular network?
[07:41] <Flannel> in the BIOS
[07:41] <JohnAnderson> but that wouldnt give me the option to chose between the two would it?
[07:41] <ikonia> Flannel: yes, he could, that would be valid, but as this guy is new, to get grub on the mbr, then add the right os etc etc, may be quicker, but your welcome to help him add windws to grub and change the disks over
[07:41] <JohnAnderson> im a girl
[07:41] <JohnAnderson> no im jk
[07:41] <Flannel> JohnAnderson: Yeah, it'd likely be easiest for you to just reinstall, certainly less hassle.
[07:41] <JohnAnderson> lmaoo
[07:42] <JohnAnderson> thas what imma do
[07:42] <JohnAnderson> atleast i know it loaded up and all... so i know it'll install.. just gotta do it all ova again
[07:42] <qqx> can anyone Please Please Please tell me how to use my bluetooth headset as my default audio device? no dead end links please.
[07:42] <eseven73> qqx nothing wrong with a wild goose chase every now and then ;)
[07:43] <JohnAnderson> okay thank you everyone
[07:43] <daredevilthere> Hey guys can i make calls and recieve calls from ubuntu by connecting cell using bluetooth?
[07:43] <JohnAnderson> 1 more question
[07:44] <JohnAnderson> i will need to set it as master right?
[07:44] <JohnAnderson> the linux harddrive?
[07:44] <chris_> hello. after having used intrepid for a while, i have switched back to hardy on my dell xps m1530. i wanna go back to intrepid (nvidia has released new drivers, finally), but i used to sometimes get a blank display after start-up, sometimes it would beep (through the soundcard, not speakers!) terribly, then start or not (remain blank). sometimes it would also go blank, but the x server would work, while the consoles do not (i'm pretty sure
[07:44] <chris_>  they work, they are just not visible). has anybody ever experienced such a thing?
[07:44] <insmod> anyone know if they solved the issue with ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam -- it uses the zc3xx
[07:44] <fuctfly> anybody here good with video conferencing software?  i m having issues with getting h264 codec to work with h323 protocol..  =)
[07:45] <Flannel> JohnAnderson: Nope
[07:45] <JohnAnderson> it doesnt make much difference anyways either does it
[07:46] <qqx> ok ok ok ok ok ok ok... pls someone tell me how to use my blue tooth headset as my default audio device
[07:48] <daredevilthere> Can i make n recieve calls using ubuntu by connecting to cell via btuetooth
[07:49] <chris_> qqx: you could try blueman bluetooth manager. as far as i know it is not that simple. you'd have to edit a file in your home dir. but there is a good how-to at google
[07:51] <qqx> thanks chris_ ill try
[07:52] <Raize> Hi, quick question. I have a directory azureus created, /home/user/.azureus. It doesn't appear in a regular file browser obviously. Is there a command I could use to rename that?
[07:52] <daredevilthere> Raize:  use mv
[07:52] <epoch> i have a beautifully upgraded ubuntu and /how do i start compiz/
[07:52] <epoch> :<
[07:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I want to rip a dvd and convert the file to avi for compressed storage anyone know a good program for that?
[07:52] <nsadmin> is compiz in ubuntu?
[07:53] <epoch> i believe so
[07:53] <daredevilthere> nsadmin: yap
[07:53] <Raize> It should enable itself after installing the proper drivers
[07:53] <gasull> U-b-u-n-t-u: I think a program called devede can do that
[07:53] <epoch> i knew i saw it fly by during the 219 updates process :)
[07:53] <epoch> no clue as to how to fire it up though
[07:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I have that one gasull I didnt know it could rip and save in avi?
[07:53] <gasull> nsadmin: I think it is not in the official repositories, but you can find repositories for it.  I was using it
[07:54] <Flannel> nsadmin, gasull: it is installed by default
[07:54] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: avidrip, or dvd::rip
[07:54] <puremichael> hi; where can i set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH permamently ?
[07:54] <Raize> I know in my system I just install the nvidia drivers for my card and you should be able to enable the pretty stuff by going like, System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects
[07:54] <daredevilthere> U-b-u-n-t-u: use sudo apt-cache search dvd to search for pacakages
[07:54] <Raize> Then install ccsm to configure it.
[07:54] <chris_> qqx: well, if you want it to be your default device anyway, then blueman might actually be the right thing for you
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[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thats ikonia and insmod going to try it now
[07:55] <gasull> I want to make a bootable CD with some .exe files (for upgrading my BIOS).  How can I do it?
[07:55] <ikonia> gasull: not an ubuntu think
[07:55] <ikonia> gasull: you need a windows/dos boot cd
[07:56] <Dexi> !sensors
[07:56] <epoch> Raize, that always tells me that desktop enhancement cannot be enabled even though my nvidia driver is installed
 no
[07:56] <Raize> Ive had that issue before, sec
[07:56] <epoch> thank you
 just use mkiso (i think it's called that
[07:57] <Raize> Try going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[07:57] <qqx> where can i pastebin a screen shot
[07:57] <Raize> See if theres an option there to enable restricted drivers
[07:57] <arquebus>  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <cisa> hi!
[07:58] <qqx> where can i pastebin a SCREENSHOT
[07:58] <gub> tinypi.com
[07:58] <gub> tinypic.com
[07:58] <daredevilthere> cisa: hYE
[07:58] <arquebus> sry http://imageshack.us/
[07:58] <qqx> thanks
[07:58] <epoch> Raize, 2 options are in there, one is 'in use' -- my correct driver
[07:59] <epoch> version 173 (recommended) and version 96 are in the listbox
[07:59] <epoch> 173 is in use
[07:59] <insmod> anyone know if they solved the issue with ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam -- it uses the zc3xx
[07:59] <Raize> I would say try reinstalling the latest drivers manually unless thats how you installed them in the first place
[07:59] <Raize> If that doesn't work I'm not sure =/
[07:59] <epoch> manually blehh im using it right now it says :9
[07:59] <daredevilthere> Hey my mic was recording but i checked some more boxes from volume and it not not recording now
[08:00] <cisa> after hibernation my pc swaps (300MB to 600MB). this slows down the workflow. i have 4GB of ram and 5.7GB swap. workaround: swapoff $DEV && swapon $DEV. any idea how to get rid of this?
[08:00] <maksum> hey i need to install the longman cd dictioanary, does anyo ne could help me?
[08:00] <Raize> Yeah, I know sometimes when I install ubuntu and it "automatically" installs the drivers for me I still have to reinstall them manually for compiz
[08:00] <whitedox> When installing the nvidia drivers, it says I must exit X before installing. How do I do this without shutting my PC off?
[08:00] <cisa> 5.7GB swap was suggested by ubuntu (D-I)
[08:00] <epoch> i just hate a dirty system is all :(
[08:01] <epoch> hell i dont need compiz
[08:01] <maksum> could not install the longman cd dictioanary, although in the cd stated that linux could install it
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[08:01] <qqx> what the haeck is this??? 8-0 <a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i42.tinypic.com/2z82nb9.png" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
[08:02] <whitedox> insmod: I am sort of a noob. What does that mean?
[08:02] <qqx> sorry http://i42.tinypic.com/2z82nb9.png
[08:02] <Flannel> qqx: What do you mean?
[08:02] <daredevilthere> any good dictionary in ubuntu?
[08:02] <Ububegin> To access remote server/PC from the nautilus brower, i remember doing something stcp:(this is wrong) something like that that... I cant remember... but by doing that, i can access the remote PC's folders like a local PC's one.. Anyone can help me out with .. :)
[08:03] <Flannel> qqx: Ah.  Pastebin the output of this: apt-cache policy python2.5 python2.5-dev && apt-cache showpkg python2.5-dev
[08:03] <Dexi> hey guys i reinstalled ubuntu and upgraded to intrepid, you know that newer user manager thing that is supposed to also manage pidgin... it loaded on the left side of the divider instead of to the right of the time... how can i fix this?
[08:03] <insmod> hit ctrl alt F(#) gives user workspaces F7 is default  X u can run another X on F8
hit ctrl alt F(#) gives user workspaces F7 is default  X u can run another X on F8
[08:04] <Pytlask> Quick question. If my computer is not on at a time an event is scheduled with cron(tab), will my computer run the event the next time it turns on?
no
[08:04] <Flannel> qqx: Actually, you don't need to.
[08:04] <whitedox> insmod: So how do I close them?
[08:05] <Pytlask> insmod: Much thanks :)
[08:05] <qqx> dont need to pastebin the output of that?
why would you want to do that -- kill x then in a tty login and install the nvidia
[08:05] <lwizardl> Hi
[08:06] <Flannel> qqx: The issue is that you have the wrong version of python2.5-dev...  You'll notice that http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/python2.5-dev  that (v2.5.2-11.1ubuntu1) depends on the same version of python2.5 (which is what you have installed), the version of -dev you downloaded manually is 2.5.1-0ubuntu1.2, which likely depends on (exactly) 2.5.1-0ubuntu1.2 of python2.5
[08:06] <daredevilthere> how can i download the pakage using apt-get and save them without installing
[08:06] <Flannel> daredevilthere: apt-get -d install package1 package2 etc
[08:06] <whitedox> insmod: Ohhhh. Okay. Thanks!
man apt-get
[08:06] <Flannel> daredevilthere: -d means download only
[08:06] <qqx> huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh?
[08:06] <Flannel> insmod: Please be helpful
[08:06] <Flannel> qqx: What didn't you understand?
[08:06] <lwizardl> anyone here able to get Ubuntu to install on a Mac G4 (PPC) computer? I keep getting a error on the alternate install disc. about needing cd-rom drivers disk
[08:06] <Ububegin> btw, does anyone understand my question.. or shld i reword it...
I was man is great if you can red
[08:07] <insmod> read
[08:07] <Flannel> !rtfm | insmod
[08:07] <qqx> all of it
[08:07] <qqx> flannel
what one did I use
[08:07] <whitedox> insmod: One last little bitty thing..How do I get into a TTY? -_-
[08:08] <insmod> <Flannel?
[08:08] <Ububegin> To access remote server/PC from the nautilus brower, i remember doing something stcp:(this is wrong) something like that that... I cant remember... but by doing that, i can access the remote PC's folders like a local PC's one.. Anyone can help me out with .. :)
ctrl alt F1 or F@ etc
[08:08] <zer0> how to set mocp remember my theme that i was choose??i cant find ~/.moc/config
[08:08] <Flannel> qqx: Ok, you downloaded version 2.5.1-0ubuntu1.2 of python2.5-dev (your firefox download window, top left) and are trying to install it.  That version of -dev depends on 2.5.1-0ubuntu1.2 of python2.5; you have version 2.5.1-11.1ubuntu1 of python2.5 installed
[08:08] <raevol> i seem to be missing whatever dictionary xchat and pidgin use for spellchecking, anyone know what package that is?
[08:09] <Flannel> insmod: "read the manual" is not an acceptable answer in this channel.  When helping, be helpful.
[08:09] <Flannel> raevol: like aspell, but I don't know for sure.
[08:09] <terryx> i can't install the updates, its says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:10] <Flannel> terryx: Have you tried running `sudo dpkg --configure -a` to fix the problem?
[08:10] <zer0> how to set keyboard shortcut to open terminal on ubuntu 8.10??
[08:10] <raevol> thanks Flannel
[08:10] <insmod> Flannel : then answer this -- is the issue with ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam -- it uses the zc3xx
[08:10] <qqx> ok so what do i need to do
[08:10] <qqx> flannel
[08:11] <terryx> flannel, yes i am doing it but its says warning: Failed to parse default value `??????????? ?????? ;gtk-theme-selector.desktop,???????????? ??????????? ???;default-applications.desktop,??????????? ????;gnome-cups-manager.desktop]' for schema (/schemas/apps/control-center/cc_actions_list)
[08:12] <rww> terryx: that's a known bug and shouldn't stop dpkg from running, if i remember correctly
[08:13] <terryx> rww, u mean no problem...its continue installing updates...
[08:13] <rww> terryx: It should do, yes.
[08:13] <rww> terryx: is it? or is it stopping after that error?
[08:13] <rww> The specific bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/276272 , btw.
[08:13] <Flannel> qqx: You need to get the proper version of python2.5-dev.  Is this a fresh install?
[08:13] <mthed> I'm trying to update my ubuntu 8.04 but the update manager can't find some of the packages. Why is this?
[08:13] <qqx> flannel yes how did you know
[08:13] <terryx> rww, how can i install languages, indian languages in ubuntu?
 and you can't baby people for ever this isn't windows -- learn the backend
[08:14] <Flannel> qqx: Because you don't have all the packages listed.  python2.5-dev should be listed in synaptic.  Hit 'reload' (top left in synaptic) and then install python2.5-dev from synaptic.  Also, be sure to upgrade to current package versions (hit mark all upgrades), or let update-manager do it.
[08:14] <ce_mood> hi
[08:14] <Flannel> insmod: That sort of attitude won't get you very far in this channel, I suggest you rethink your attitude.
[08:14] <insmod> <Flannel: that's why I hate this channel
[08:14] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[08:14] <Seiver`Damross> Netsplit Detected irc.freenode.net from: lindbohm.freenode.net
[08:14] <mthed> heh
[08:14] <CaptainMorgan> wth?
[08:14] <qqx> python2.5-dev isnt on the list
[08:14] <Flannel> insmod: No one's forcing you to be here.  If you feel your time is better spent elsewhere: please, don't allow us to waste anymore of your time.
[08:14] <zer0> how to install adobe reader and with firefox support???
[08:14] <Flannel> qqx: Even after you hit reload?
[08:14] <qqx> yes
[08:15] <Flannel> qqx: Alright, please pastebin the output of this command: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy python2.5 python2.5-dev
why are you bugging me are you op?
[08:15] <terryx> i have searched internet many times, but can't find what is segmentation fault..anybody knows?
[08:15] <epoch> demz foightin woidz!
[08:16] <maverick340> is there a way i can implement a p2p network of some sort over a LAN.
[08:16] <Ububegin> insmod: To access remote server/PC from the nautilus brower, i remember doing something stcp:(this is wrong) something like that that... I cant remember... but by doing that, i can access the remote PC's folders like a local PC's one.. Anyone can help me out with .. :)
segmentation fault is where the program crashes unexpected
[08:16] <zer0> how to install adobe reader and with firefox support???
[08:16] <Tekno> Ububegin: scp ?
[08:16] <maverick340> there is a lot of stuff that gets downloaded , resulting in  lot of dupes. was wondering if there is a way by which you can have a way of searching of files over the lan
[08:16] <maverick340> sort of like a p2p client
[08:17] <qqx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/102602/ @ Flannel
[08:17] <karooga> hi, anyone used do-release-upgrade before?
[08:17] <terryx> insmod, i have understand this..but why my firefox is crashes with this error?
[08:17] <Flannel> karooga: Yep
[08:17] <rww> !anyone | karooga
use fish
[08:17] <chris_> Ububegin: i think the correct line should be: smb://
probably a library error
[08:18] <Trenter> Question:  How do I add more desktops to ubuntu
[08:18] <karooga> Flannel: is the update purely text based?
[08:18] <zer0> how to install adobe reader and with firefox support???
isn't that samba
[08:18] <arquebus> terryx- http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=segmentation+fault
[08:18] <Flannel> karooga: It is... well, there's curses based menus for some of the reconfiguring, but yes, it takes places entirely in a console
[08:19] <zer0> how to install adobe reader and with firefox support???
[08:19] <Trenter> zer0: dont need to spam the question
[08:19] <Ububegin> chris_ : the remote pc is also Linux... not windows
[08:19] <Flannel> qqx: You've got python2.5-dev right there.  It should show up in synaptic.  But you can install it with sudo apt-get install python2.5-dev
more then one X or kde gnome etc
[08:19] <bazhang> zer0, dont repeat so often
[08:19] <bazhang> zer0, let us do a bit of research between asking
[08:20] <zer0> i cant sudo=acroread.
files or printing
[08:20] <karooga> Flannel: so running an ssh session and screen would be a good strategy for the upgrade?
[08:20] <Ububegin> insmod: accessing files
[08:20] <Melik> anyone else having trouble with nvidia drivers and xorg on Jaunty Jackalope?
[08:20] <bazhang> zer0, you want to read pdf in ff?
[08:20] <Trenter> insmod:  Using gnome, want to be able to have desktop cube, I have compizconfig-settings-manager installed and when I activate the desktop cube it does not work, trying to figure out how to add more desktops
[08:20] <zer0> yes
fish is the best but it is a kde protocal
[08:20] <Flannel> karooga: You really shouldn't upgrade over ssh... (it'll actually warn you about that, and open up another sshd too).  Really ought to do it at a terminal if you can.
[08:21] <zer0> also in my ubuntu 8.10
fish://ipadress
[08:21] <Viking667> hey there. Anyone seen a "moonlight" deb around? I can't see one except for mono-smcs.
[08:21] <Melik> anyone else having trouble with nvidia drivers and xorg on 9.04 jaunty?
[08:21] <U-b-u-n-t-u> insmod acidrip seems to be working well thanks for the tip
[08:21] <bindaas> hellos ,ubuntu hardy gnome  power manager is not showing any info about battery discharge/charge ,is it broken?
[08:21] <Ububegin> insmod:i am gnome... but i cant recall the exact name.. shit.. it isnt scp://ipaddress...
[08:21] <Viking667> I'm wanting to play Silverlight media from within firefox
that's not desk top thats work spaces
[08:22] <Viking667> fish://   ...?
[08:22] <karooga> Flannel:  Ok.  And does the upgrade just use normal sources.list to get the packages?  So I could use a local apt-cacher repo to speed up the install?
[08:22] <Trenter> insmod:  Thanks for the correction, I mean workspace I guess, how do I add additional workspaces?
[08:22] <zer0> how can i view file.exe on ubuntu 8.10??
[08:22] <Trenter> insmod:  Acctually save ur typing, lemme check google... lol
form linuxhelp?
[08:22] <karooga> Flannel: is it possible to determine what packages will be need prior to doing the upgrade?
[08:23] <rww> !wine | zer0
[08:23] <Viking667> insmod: yeah.
[08:23] <Ububegin> zer0: install wine... to run exe files
lol been yrs
[08:23] <sleepy_cat> can u give me a site which on opening there is a video played in the small box somewhere on it
[08:23] <Trenter> Viking667:  Try ie tab with silverlight installed in wine mb
[08:23] <sleepy_cat> besides youtube ofcourse
yes fish works great
[08:23] <aftertaf> what type of video format? flmash?
[08:23] <Ububegin> sleepy_cat: a lot of blogs have it..
[08:23] <sleepy_cat> anything
[08:23] <zer0> wine not support many .exe..
[08:23] <Viking667> Trenter: I'm trying to avoid use of IE on that machine as much as I can.
[08:23] <Flannel> karooga: It'll tell you a whole long list and ask you to confirm/etc
[08:23] <zer0> it not support angels online.exe
use cxoffice
[08:24] <aftertaf> any bash gurus about?
[08:24] <Viking667> aftertaf: I've no idea; the only thing I know is that it's videos available at ITV for the Coro Street stuff.
[08:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know how to make the system monitor on 8.04 show the cpu usage like on 8.10?
[08:24] <Trenter> Viking667:  IE Tab is a firefox plugin
[08:24] <sleepy_cat> insmod: whts cxoffice
[08:24] <Ububegin> aftertaf: proceed to #bash channel...
[08:24] <Lou__> This bug is affecting me big time, but it seems that there is no one working on it now after several weeks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/281622.  It must not be affecting many people, but it makes many of my applications unusable---even the bug reporting module doesn't work!  It seems to be the update to the GNU C libraries several weeks ago that is causing it.
[08:24] <aftertaf> :)
[08:24] <Flannel> karooga: It uses regular repos, but I'm not sure if it has a mirror hardcoded or not into its new sources.list for the ugprade.
somewhat
[08:24] <sleepy_cat> ubuntulog: give me a site
[08:24] <maverick340> how do you setup a private p2p network ? (over  LAN )
where wine gets its code
[08:24] <kbrosnan> Trenter: ietab is windows only
[08:24] <zer0> lol.cxoffice=need to buy
[08:24] <maverick340> want a way by which people over lan can search of files
[08:24] <zer0> :(
[08:24] <sleepy_cat> which have a video enabled on it.
but it's not free
[08:24] <Trenter> didn't know that :S
[08:25] <Trenter> shame
but they do have some on gnutella
[08:25] <aftertaf> want to recover the size of RAM on a machine - using cap /proc/meminfo | grep...| awk for now . . .
[08:25] <zer0> i can find full download??
[08:25] <bazhang> zer0, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-feisty-fawn.html also for intrepid (ubuntu 8.10) from medibuntu.org repos
[08:26] <bindaas> is there a good power manager which i should install?
[08:26] <boscoslife> http://pastebin.com/m26fc84fd                      can someone tell me what i am doing wrong with setting up apache
[08:26] <boscoslife> 2
[08:26] <bindaas> or uninstall/install gnome-power manager
[08:26] <boscoslife> ssl
[08:26] <boscoslife> to
i did on gnutella but just goto there site
[08:27] <zer0> that mean, i can get full package??
[08:28] <Grayvon> Anyone have an easy way to convert my IE favs into FF favs without access to a windows computer?
[08:28] <ikonia> Grayvon: the favourites are just normally a text file with html links in
what are you trying to install -- and yes they let you install full but it nages you at startup
[08:29] <maverick340> or is there some kind of direct connect server/client for ubuntu ?
[08:29] <ikonia> maverick340: dc++
that's why i got the free one on gnutella
[08:29] <Grayvon> so copy paste and add bookmark in FF is what you are saying? :P
[08:29] <chris_> boscoslife: isn't this a public ip?
[08:29] <ikonia> Grayvon: or just import the text file
[08:30] <boscoslife> chris why do you ask
[08:30] <maverick340> ikonia, dc++ runs natively on ubuntu ?
[08:30] <zer0> let me think..i think all free with linux..
[08:30] <Grayvon> I can't get it to import from either File or Bookmarks
[08:30] <ikonia> maverick340: yes
[08:30] <Viking667> Trenter: also, IE Tab only works under Windows.
[08:30] <Grayvon> I found a python script that is supposed to do it, but I am a total noob
[08:30] <boscoslife> chris why do you ask
[08:30] <maverick340> and is there a howto on setting it up for LAN ?
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxlinux/
[08:31] <ikonia> maverick340: install it, launch it
[08:31] <maverick340> ikonia, heh , doing that
[08:31] <boscoslife> chris no it is not
[08:31] <sleepy_cat> ok like yahoo there must be a site which when logged on some promotion video appear in the bottom part of the screen
[08:32] <boscoslife> chris some random numbers i gave so i would not give out my own server ip
[08:33] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded the packages "libssl0.9.8" and "openssl". Why does usn say "After a standard system upgrade you need to reboot your computer to effect the necessary changes"?
[08:33] <ikonia> boscoslife: your own server ip is listed in your irc client 12.109.79.74
[08:33] <zer0> can any1 direct my to full version of CrossOver Linux??
any good with we cams?
[08:33] <ikonia> zer0: it's on the cross over website
[08:33] <Viking667> insmod: sorry dude. Having trouble with one myself.
I just did
[08:33] <Viking667> I've got it uhm, working, but the image is reversed.
[08:33] <boscoslife> ikonia no i mean for my server off of a pastebin i posted
[08:33] <karooga> Flannel: any ideas who I might ask?
[08:34] <zer0> then, i download trial???
[08:34] <mayail> hai
[08:34] <insmod> I<Viking667>D 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam -- it uses the zc3xx --- works in all BUT the new kernels
[08:34] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm outta here. Thanks for the help. I found moonlight xpi at http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
what are you trying to install
[08:35] <mayail> anyone say how to change my system environment in tamil to english
[08:35] <breathsOf10> huh? a link?
[08:35] <talbot> United States Zanesville Columbus Network Access Point Inc
[08:35] <talbot> United States Zanesville Columbus Network Access Point Inc
[08:35] <talbot> United States Zanesville Columbus Network Access Point Inc
[08:35] <FloodBot3> talbot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:35] <zer0> something that i can run angels online games on linux.but not wine
[08:35] <ikonia> zer0: cross-over is available from the cross over site
 what is that a web site?
[08:36] <zer0> igg.com
[08:36] <mayail>  Please anyone say how to change my system environment in tamil to english
[08:36] <Flannel> karooga: I'd say give it a go, see what it says.  It asks you about lots of stuff before it does it.  Adding extra sources may be one of them (I know there were a number of dialogs beforehand)
 easy fix
[08:37] <zer0> easy fix????
[08:37] <talbot> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=c8dd5c9934523844d2db6fb9a8902bda 8yo girl fuking her dad hard, private, new and very quality.
[08:37] <talbot> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=c8dd5c9934523844d2db6fb9a8902bda 8yo girl fuking her dad hard, private, new and very quality.
[08:37] <FloodBot3> talbot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 do the games play in the browser?
[08:37] <Ububegin> talbot: just f off man...
[08:38] <ikonia> Ububegin: don't use that language or you can go to
[08:38] <qqx> Flannel: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:38] <qqx>   blueman: Depends: libbluetooth2 (>= 3.14) but it is not installable
[08:38] <qqx> E: Broken packages
[08:38] <zer0> no.need to download and install.also can install on pendrive.
[08:39] <Ububegin> ikonia: sorry, was pissed with talbot remarks...
[08:39] <ikonia> Ububegin: yet your still using language
 but is it ie that plays the games
[08:40] <Ububegin> ikonia: kk, dude... it has become so common, i didnt even realise it... :)
[08:40] <zer0> it need to install.i run with wine.only can hear sound.the screen is black
[08:40] <mayail> anyone say how to change my system environment in tamil to english
[08:40] <ikonia> Ububegin: no problem
[08:40] <ikonia> Ububegin: thank you
[08:41] <unop> qqx, that package has been removed from intrepid
[08:41] <zer0> i cant add=sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[08:41] <Flannel> zer0: Are you still on feisty?
cedaga is for gaming
[08:42] <qqx> well how the h*ll am i supposed to install the package blueman then???
http://www.transgaming.com/
[08:42] <zer0> im on intrepid
[08:42] <zer0> cedega need pay i think
[08:42] <qqx> sorry
[08:42] <Flannel> zer0: Then why are you adding the feisty medibuntu?
[08:42] <zer0> what is to interpid??
ya but as a non gamer I can only sugest what works I would have to try it on wine -- last game i played was duke nukem
[08:43] <zer0> nver heard that games.sorry.
[08:43] <zer0> i play online game only
lol that was 12 yrs ago maybe more
[08:44] <qqx> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[08:44] <ikonia> qqx: stop
[08:44] <zer0> owh..
[08:44] <ikonia> qqx: people don't need to see that
[08:44] <kalvin_> hi, can anyone help, for some reason, i dont see all of my text unless i highlight it
[08:44] <qqx> i cant get my headset to work
[08:44] <qqx> well it works
[08:45] <ikonia> qqx: that doesn't mean flood the channel with :(
[08:45] <zer0> then,how about my adobe reader???
in what
just d/l it from adobe and install
[08:45] <kalvin_> well in a lot of things, i mean i can see the text in here fine, same w/ firefox, but sometimes dialog boxes dont show the text and various other programs
[08:45] <qqx> but i cant get my system to use the bluetooth headset as the default audio device
[08:46] <ikonia> qqx: that doesn't mean flood the channel with :(
[08:46] <zer0> x86??
can you see it but it's crushed
[08:46] <kalvin_> i just downloaded mandvd and couldnt read anything in it and accidently hit the german version of it
[08:46] <qqx> how can i download the blueman package if i have broken packages?
it will work
[08:47] <ikonia> qqx: what version of ubuntu are you using
[08:47] <qqx> 8.1
[08:47] <ikonia> qqx: 8.10 ?
[08:47] <qqx> yes
[08:47] <ikonia> qqx: please show me the output of uname -a
[08:47] <doeL_phin> aq gak pgn prgi tp aq hrus prgi..
[08:48] <kalvin_> sometimes text will pop up really quick and disappear
[08:48] <doeL_phin> pha aq bsa ???
[08:48] <ebrink> ?
sudo apt-get install -f
[08:48] <ikonia> doeL_phin: english only please
[08:48] <Flannel> !id | doeL_phin
[08:48] <zer0> how can i change my mac address??
[08:48] <ikonia> zer0: you don't
[08:48] <digifor> How do I "To complete the installation, move config/LocalSettings.php to the parent directory." ? with mediawiki on intrepid?
[08:48] <ikonia> zer0: why would you need to change your mac address ?
[08:49] <zer0> authentication
[08:49] <ikonia> zer0: with what ?
[08:49] <doeL_phin> I wanna to go but I must go
[08:49] <zer0> with mikrotik problem
[08:49] <ikonia> zer0: you shouldn't need to change your mac
[08:49] <doeL_phin> I'm borred
[08:49] <zer0> how can i bypass then..lol
sounds like the vid  module
[08:49] <ikonia> doeL_phin: then please go to a chat channel
[08:49] <winterk> Hiya - I have a slightly weird issue. I'm trying to run Ubuntu 8.10 LiveCD on an AMD Athlon64 with an nForce board - but it keeps freezing when it gets to the Hardware Abstraction Layer. If I got APCI/APIC enabled, the machines sleeps and freezes. If I disable these in the BIOS, the screen goes corrupt and freezes with the last image still showing. I tried to google on this for 2 hours and tried various solutions but nothing seems to work. 
[08:50] <ikonia> zer0: you don't bypass securirty
[08:50] <digifor> ikonia, some ISP's limit you to one mac address.
[08:50] <kalvin_> insmod: any suggestions?
[08:50] <ikonia> digifor: yes, that doesn't mean we will help you break the terms of the isp
[08:50] <ikonia> qqx: still waiting for the output of uname -a
 what video card - did it do it before?
[08:50] <qqx> ikonia check pm
[08:50] <franki^> does anyone think that they can help me with a gnome-keyboard-settings related bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/314766
[08:51] <kalvin_> im new to linux..never did it in windows
[08:51] <digifor> you are still only connecting one computer at a time.
[08:51] <ikonia> qqx you can post in the channel in future please
[08:51] <ikonia> digifor: so ?
[08:51] <zer0> i cant change my mac on ubuntu then??
 i have never ran windows so ...
[08:51] <Kartagis> digifor, mv /usr/share/mediawiki/config/LocalSettings.php /usr/share/mediawiki/config if i remember correctly
[08:51] <doeL_phin> I had it
[08:51] <ikonia> qqx: please show me in a pastebin the command your using to install the package you want, and the output
[08:51] <kalvin_> whats the command to see my video card?
 i ment did it just happen but was fine
[08:51] <oasdoasdold> could someone please help me please i have a small problem: i accidently clicked ignore updates in synaptic update manager. how can i remove them from thge ignore list
 dmesg
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> kalvin_: do "lspci" in a terminal without quotes
[08:51] <kalvin_> no its happened since i installed
[08:51] <doeL_phin> anypeople care me ..
[08:52] <adam7> kalvin_: lshw or lspci
[08:52] <ikonia> doeL_phin: what do you want ?
[08:52] <kraut> moin
[08:52] <kalvin_> geforce ti 4600
 dmesg |less
[08:52] <doeL_phin> love
[08:52] <ikonia> doeL_phin: this is an ubuntu support channel only please.
[08:52] <digifor> thanks Kartagis
[08:52] <ndlovu> I've got a directory full of windows-style text files (^M at the end of the lines). is there some neat way to convert all of them in one go?
 ok now we are getting there
[08:52] <qqx> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/102621/
 did the card work before
[08:52] <doeL_phin> love for all my friends
[08:53] <ikonia> doeL_phin: please stop
[08:53] <ikonia> doeL_phin: support discussion ONLY
[08:53] <kalvin_> i mean as far as i know
[08:53] <Dexi> hey im getting really low quality out of amarok and I dont know why (im positive these songs are better quality than im hearing)
[08:53] <oasdoasdold> could someone please help me  i have a small problem: i accidently clicked ignored updates in synaptic update manager. how can i remove
[08:53] <doeL_phin> why ??
[08:53] <ikonia> qqx: do a sudo apt-get update first please
[08:53] <aftertaf> Dexi: check which backends are installed . . ..
[08:53] <ikonia> doeL_phin: that is the channels topic
 login failsafe -- run som apps if that works then we know what it is
[08:53] <qqx> i did, but ill do it again...
[08:53] <digifor> zer0, http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/30/how-to-change-or-spoof-mac-address-in-windows-xp-vista-server-20032008-mac-os-x-unix-and-linux/
[08:53] <ikonia> qqx: please
[08:54] <oasdoasdold> could someone please help me  i have a small problem: i accidently clicked ignored updates in synaptic update manager. how can let these updates appear once again in the update list
[08:54] <kalvin_> how do i login like that?
[08:54] <doeL_phin> so, what topic is it ??
[08:54] <qqx> same output, ikonia
[08:54] <ikonia> doeL_phin: ubuntu support discussion only
 it's an option in login
[08:54] <ikonia> qqx: something is wrong here, there is no such pakage as blueman in the ubuntu repos
[08:54] <ikonia> !info blueman
[08:54] <fishsemen> could someone please help me  i have a small problem: i accidently clicked ignored updates in synaptic update manager. how can let these updates appear once again in the update list
[08:55] <doeL_phin> huuuuuuuuuuuh ...
[08:55] <qqx> ikonia, i added a source
[08:55] <ikonia> qqx: which one ?
[08:55] <ikonia> qqx: which source did you add
[08:55] <qqx> sudo wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/blueman/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/blueman.list
[08:55] <kalvin_> i dont have that option
[08:55] <ikonia> qqx: thats for hardy !
[08:55] <ikonia> qqx: the dependencies will never be met
[08:55] <aftertaf> i like it when a /dev/null gets kicked :)
[08:56] <fishsemen> could someone PLEASE help me  i have a small problem: i accidently clicked ignored updates in synaptic update manager. how can let these updates appear once again in the update list
[08:56] <qqx> how do i fix it
[08:56] <ikonia> qqx: use package for intrepid
[08:56] <bullgard4> What directory contains the manual_pages?
[08:56] <ikonia> bullgard4: /usr/share/men
 yes you do
[08:56] <ikonia> bullgard4: /usr/share/man
[08:57] <fishsemen> is there a file somewhere whos lists updates to be ignored that i can edit ^^?
[08:57] <TTilus> how do i change default settings for evince?
[08:57] <TTilus> i dont like it opening always with "continuous" set
[08:57] <qqx> ikonia, how the heck do i get the package for intrepid
[08:57] <ikonia> qqx: talk to the people who maintain it
[08:58] <kalvin_> how, when i logout it just asks for my u/p
[08:58] <franki^> does anyone think that they can help me with a gnome-keyboard-settings related bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/314766
[08:58] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you.
[08:58] <adam7> kalvin_: as opposed to asking for what?
 there are other icons click them
[08:59] <ndlovu> !tofrodos
 if you can't figure that out reboot and pick failsafe in grub
[08:59] <kalvin_> ok im in failsafe
 run som programs see if it happens
[09:01] <kalvin_> everything seems to be the same
[09:01] <adam7> franki^: what do you want us to help with?
[09:01] <ValentineXX> There is a file in my recycle bin, when i try to delete that i am unable .. "Error removing file: Permission denied"
 still bad
[09:01] <kalvin_> yeah, its like only certain programs have this problem
[09:02] <franki^> adam7: anything that might get my [ctrl] key to work would be great :)
 run nvidia-settings lower the settings see if it helps
[09:02] <robert__> :)
[09:02] <ndlovu> weird... I installed tofrodos (apt-get install tofrodos), which seemed to work fine. but there is no command tofrodos, no man entry and 'apropos tofrodos' returns nothing. if I try install it again I get 'tofrodos is already the newest version.'. is this a bug?
[09:02] <adam7> franki^: that bug doesn't look related to the control key, as it says, the keyboard appears to work fine
[09:03] <adam7> ndlovu: run dpkg --listfiles tofrodos
[09:03] <extern> how to completely uninstall ati video drivers? I have an issue with an xcb assertion, which I can't get fixed.
[09:04] <ndlovu> thanks adam7, that was what I needed... several apps in 1 package
[09:04] <qqx> could anyone pretty pls tell me how to make your bluetooth headset work as your default audio device?
rmmod then remove the package
[09:04] <franki^> adam7: as far as he can tell, i have _exactly_ the same error message, and nearly the same outputs, and my control key works in my terminal but apparently not for, say, firefox..
[09:04] <adam7> franki^: check system -> preferences -> keyboard
[09:04] <ValentineXX> There is a file in my recycle bin, when i try to delete that i am unable .. "Error removing file: Permission denied" how to handle this file?
[09:05] <kalvin_> no luck
[09:05] <adam7> franki^: there are some settings related to the ctrl key in there that might be of use
 when you change settings you have to restart X
[09:06] <kalvin_> ok...actaully ill mess with it tomorrow, i have to get some sleep..really appreciate your help insmod hopefully i see you on again
 not for a while but cheers
[09:07] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded the packages "libssl0.9.8" and "openssl". Why does usn say "After a standard system upgrade you need to reboot your computer to effect the necessary changes"?
[09:08] <qqx> could anyone pretty pls tell me how to make your bluetooth headset work as your default audio device?
[09:08] <sami> Anyone here good at preseed?
[09:09] <Flannel> qqx: No one whos awake right now knows.  I suggest slowing down to one repeat every 20-30 minutes.
[09:09] <ndlovu> if an app doesn't have a recurse option (but it accepts * - like 'tounix *'), is there another way to tell it to recurse through subdirectories?
[09:09] <qqx> Flannel why dont i have the right to repeat every 3 minutes?
[09:09] <adam7> ndlovu: the * is a function of bash not the app
[09:09] <bonhoffer> i am trying to read an xlsx file (excel 2007) on my ubuntu box -- i have open office 3.0 with the extra-plugin installed, but when i try to open the file, I get: General Error: General Input/Output error -- any help?
[09:10] <Flannel> qqx: It won't accomplish anything more than once in a while, so it's spammish.
[09:10] <adam7> qqx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[09:10] <sami> I'm trying to preseed away the prompt that says Encrypt home directory. Nothing in Appendix B mentions anything about that.
[09:10] <ndlovu> adam7, does bash have a recurse function as well, or would I need to do some scripting?
[09:10] <adam7> ndlovu: um... I know zsh does
[09:10] <Trenter> Where can I go to shout my love of ubuntu because all of my pain of dealing with vista is gone?
[09:11] <adam7> ndlovu: I think bash does too but I can't remember what it is (in zsh it is **)
[09:11] <DJones> Trenter: Try #ubuntu-offtopic thats a general chat channel for ubuntu
[09:11] <ndlovu> thanks adam7, I'll try ** and see if it works
[09:11] <adam7> ndlovu: it doesn't work in bash
[09:11] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:11] <ndlovu> thanks though adam7
[09:12] <adam7> ndlovu: if you use the shell a lot I'd recommend zsh, it's very customizable and has more features
[09:12] <silv3r_m00n> after some idle time my monitor goes to standby where can i change the time interval ?
[09:12] <adam7> silv3r_m00n: system -> prefs -> power settings
[09:12] <adam7> ndlovu: try find . -0 | xargs -0 someprogram
[09:12] <franki^> adam7: if i change any of those control key settings it just brings up the same error message
[09:13] <adam7> ndlovu: sorry make that try find . -print0 | xargs -0 someprogram
[09:13] <adam7> franki^: I don't know then, sorry :(
[09:13] <silv3r_m00n> adam7:  in kde ?
[09:13] <franki^> adam7: thanks anyway :)
[09:13] <adam7> silv3r_m00n: try #kubuntu
[09:16] <sami> Anyone here good at preseed?
[09:16] <sami> I'm trying to preseed away the prompt that says Encrypt home directory. Nothing in Appendix B mentions anything about that.
[09:16] <p3rrrn> hi guys, iam using ubunutu eee....is there a way to upgrade to easy peasy???
[09:16] <Flannel> !upgrade | p3rrrn
[09:16] <Flannel> p3rrrn: I don't see any reason why the traditional upgrade methods wouldn't work
[09:16] <ValentineXX> from gksudo nautilus how to locate trash in system files?
[09:17] <adam7> ValentineXX: I think trash is in ~/.local
[09:17] <Flannel> !trash | ValentineXX
[09:17] <jtz100> ,
[09:17] <p3rrrn> ok thx
[09:17] <terminator_> Anyone know when the Nvidia 173.14.15 drivers will be updated in Ubuntu.  I need this driver for my video card.
[09:17] <boscoslife> does anyone run xxamp on there server
[09:17] <adam7> terminator_: I might be wrong but I don't think video drivers are updated for stable ubuntu releases
[09:17] <ValentineXX> adam7:  Flannel i dont know your brain how u can remember learn all :-s it is not easy for me to learn ubuntu and specially commands
[09:18] <Flannel> boscoslife: Most people just run a real LAMP stack.
[09:18] <bonhoffer> so it looks like google doesn't support xlsx files -- ubuntu doesn't either
[09:18] <adam7> bonhoffer: I think OO.org can open xlsx
[09:18] <adam7> bonhoffer: I know OO.org can open docx so I'm assuming it can open xlsx to
[09:18] <terminator_> adam7: does that mean I will not have use of the video driver I need.
[09:18] <adam7> terminator_: no, you'll just have to install it manually
[09:19] <adam7> !nvidia
[09:19] <bonhoffer> adam7, I wish it could -- i have OOo 3.0 with the odf-converter, I get "input/output error" on startup
[09:19] <boscoslife> does anyone run xxamp on there server
[09:19] <p3rrrn> so i should upgrade with "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" ???
[09:19] <bonhoffer> or when I try to open the file
[09:19] <Flannel> boscoslife: Most people just run a real LAMP stack.
[09:19] <adam7> !ask | boscoslife
[09:19] <bonhoffer> just reinstalled the odf-integrator plugin to to avail -- unaware of any log
[09:19] <ndlovu> adam7, that worked great, thanks
[09:20] <ValentineXX> adam7:  Flannel thanks
[09:20] <boscoslife> Flannel: i cant seem to my ssl with apache running and that seemed like an alternative can you help me
[09:21] <bonhoffer> anyone know of something like #openoffice to ask my question in (that doesn't work)
[09:21] <JohnAnderson> hello agian
[09:22] <adam7> bonhoffer: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication
[09:22] <JohnAnderson> still having friggin problems installing Lool
[09:22] <bonhoffer> adam7, thanks
[09:22] <adam7> bonhoffer: looks like they have a ton of irc rooms :)
[09:23] <JohnAnderson> okay i'll ask another q
[09:23] <Lareth> Hello I have a problem installing util-linux package with the update manager. I get an error exit code 9
[09:23] <JohnAnderson> when installing ubuntu to a machine with multiple harddrives.. does it matter what harddrive it is installed on? (whether it be master or slave?)
[09:24] <adam7> JohnAnderson: shouldn't, as long as grub works
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Lareth: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:24] <adam7> JohnAnderson: in other words, you need to have grub on a bootable hard drive
[09:24] <adam7> JohnAnderson: Ubuntu can be on an SD card for all it cares
[09:24] <Lareth> Paddy_EIRE: and after that I should use the name of the package?
[09:24] <adam7> Lareth: no, just that command
[09:25] <JohnAnderson> okay bootable... so it doesnt matter if its installed on slave
[09:25] <Chris> Hello, I've just freshly installed ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386 and ran sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade and receive an error on installing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb. See http://static.chris.net.au/paste.txt I could not use the paste service since firefox also no longer starts in this intermittent state.
[09:25] <JohnAnderson> cause from what i understand it'd have to be installed on master in order to get into the bootloader..
[09:25] <adam7> JohnAnderson: nope, as long as grub is on bootable (grub is the boot manager)
[09:25] <JohnAnderson> maybe im wrong
[09:25] <JohnAnderson> okay]
[09:25] <adam7> JohnAnderson: just the bootloader on a bootable one I *think*
[09:26] <Lareth> adam7 & Paddy_EIRE: I just did it and got the same error again
[09:26] <adam7> JohnAnderson: you might be right, though
[09:26] <JohnAnderson> cause im tryingto install it on a harddrive  that will be next to winxp
[09:27] <badboy1985ro> hy all
[09:27] <badboy1985ro> is anybody working at the ubuntu project for thecus n1200?
[09:27] <Chiliblack> hi, trying to install ubuntu server on a old mini server
[09:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Lareth: do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:28] <adam7> JohnAnderson: I think you're right. What I was thinkig of is if you put the bootloader and the initrd on the bootable partition, then you can put everything else on a slave disk
[09:28] <qqx> :(
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Lareth: failing that try "sudo apt-get autoremove" then try to update it again
[09:28] <adam7> !ask | Chiliblack
[09:28] <Flannel> Paddy_EIRE, Lareth: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` is all you need.
[09:28] <Chiliblack> failed to get it to net install so I have cracked it open and andded in a cdrom, only it goes in to graphic mode when it finds the ubuntu disc, anyway to have a non graphic install
[09:28] <Flannel> upgrade is taken care of with a dist-upgrade
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Flannel: ah.. nice oen
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> *one
[09:28] <adam7> Chiliblack: alternate cd
[09:29] <Chiliblack> do have a url
[09:29] <DJones> Chiliblack: You need to use the alternate install cd which has a text based installer
[09:29] <DJones> !alternate
[09:29] <JohnAnderson> right okay
[09:29] <JohnAnderson> the installer was also going good
[09:29] <Chiliblack> thanks that hopefully will work
[09:29] <JohnAnderson> but it kept giving me an error midway through saying that couldnt read from disc
[09:30] <daredevilthere> How can one install linux in command line
[09:30] <JohnAnderson> should i reburn it?
[09:30] <Lareth> I still get the same error
[09:30] <Chris> Hello, I've just freshly installed ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386 and ran sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade and receive an error on installing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb. See http://static.chris.net.au/paste.txt I could not use the paste service since firefox also no longer starts in this intermittent state. How do I resolve this issue? Sorry for the repeat, but I realised the first time I didn't ask a question, so figured tha
[09:30] <DJones> !alternate | daredevilthere
[09:31] <selangel> 无聊哦...  这有中国人没？
[09:32] <adam7> Chris: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:32] <_ruben> !cn
[09:32] <Trenter> selangel:  English only please
[09:32] <Lareth> Paddy_EIRE Flannel adam7 I get this http://pastebin.com/m2aea0117
[09:33] <adam7> Lareth: perl doesn't like you today
[09:33] <adam7> Lareth: did you upgrade from an old ubuntu?
[09:33] <gnu2it2> what tool will discover the IP and MAC address of the boxes on our little network? 192.168.x.x
[09:34] <Lareth> I am using ubuntu 8.04.1
[09:34] <bonhoffer> adam7, so i found out my OOo 3.0 on ubuntu is the developer version -- i installed this by adding deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main to my sources -- how can i uninstall
[09:34] <_ruben> gnu2it2: nmap
[09:34] <Lareth> and haven't logged in for about a month (I was tied to windows)
[09:34] <bonhoffer> and go back to the standard OOo
[09:34] <adam7> bonhoffer: remove that line from your sources and then refresh the package database, remove oo.org and install it again (it's crucial to uninstall and install, don't do reinstall)
[09:35] <adam7> !info util-linux
[09:36] <Chris> adam7: thanks, I just ran that, but it still wants to install the new linux image, and fails when I try to apt-get upgrade
[09:36] <adam7> Chris: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:36] <Chris> adam7: okay
[09:36] <rainabba> Where do I modify Mouse Icon themes in Hardy with Gnome?
[09:36] <bonhoffer> adam7, thanks -- so i commented out that line and did apt-get upgrade and apt-get update -- but nothing uninstalled
[09:37] <bonhoffer> sorry -- how do i remove OOo
[09:37] <adam7> bonhoffer: you need to uninstall it manually
[09:37] <lwizardl> anyone here using a Arris tm502g modem from comcast and have a working router connected?
[09:37] <Lareth> adam7: any ideas on how to overcome the prob
[09:37] <bonhoffer> so delete the directory
[09:37] <adam7> Lareth: what does uname -a give you
[09:37] <adam7> bonhoffer: no
[09:37] <adam7> bonhoffer: if you used the ppa, then you just apt-get remove openoffice.org
[09:38] <adam7> bonhoffer: apt-get remove openoffice.org-core rather
[09:38] <Lareth> adam7: Linux ubuntu-tzanos 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 19:35:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:38] <bonhoffer> adam7, sorry, never removed with apt before
[09:39] <adam7> bonhoffer: no problem
[09:39] <Chris> adam7: now I get the same errr with two distinct linux image .deb files.
[09:44] <bonhoffer> o.k. all is removed the open office room would like me to install via  download.openoffice.org -- but i like to use the package manager
[09:44] <bonhoffer> what is the preferred way to proceed
[09:44] <adam7> bonhoffer: don't listen to them ;) use the package manager, otherwise you will have problems in the future
[09:44] <rohan> hello guys any way to install vlc media player without updating or updating only those pakages which are required for vlc
[09:44] <adam7> we have a package manager for a reason
[09:45] <adam7> rohan: nope, unless you can find a .deb for it somewhere
[09:45] <Chris> adam7: error output is at http://static.chris.net.au/paste2.txt (browser still refusing to start) any suggestions?
[09:45] <rohan> hmm... so i really have to update evry thing (including openoffice)
[09:45] <bonhoffer> adam7, that is what i thought
[09:46] <adam7> Chris: rm both of  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-9-generic_2.6.27-9.19_i386.deb
[09:46] <adam7> rohan: ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[09:46] <adam7> rohan: and why would you have to update openoffice for vlc?
[09:46] <Lareth> adam7: what is a rolling release distro?
[09:46] <bonhoffer> adam7, btw -- you don't know of an open office 3 package  ?
[09:47] <adam7> Lareth: arch, gentoo to name two
[09:47] <adam7> bonhoffer: besides in that ppa, no
[09:47] <rohan> adam7: iam a regular ubuntu user myself and red hat certified so dont think iam dumb
[09:47] <Lareth> adam7: meaning what?
[09:47] <Chris> adam7: okay, now it says I have unmet dependences, should I apt-get -f install again?
[09:47] <adam7> bonhoffer: intrepid made the decision not to offer oo.org 3 because it was late being released
[09:47] <bonhoffer> adam7, o.k. got it
[09:48] <adam7> rohan: I just asked you a question :/
[09:48] <adam7> Lareth: meaning they release non-security updates as they are released, ie, if package X releases a new version tomorrow, the distro might have it in their repos in a couple of days
[09:48] <sami> Does a normal user have to be in a certain group to start X
[09:48] <adam7> Chris: yep
[09:49] <Gnea> rohan: just sudo apt-get install vlc  it might have to update a few things, but it shouldn't have a negative impact on anything - what are you concerned about?
[09:49] <bonhoffer> adam7, in general -- when i want to install a package -- i google "foo-package ubuntu" to see what the install is -- is there a better way to do this?
[09:49] <adam7> rohan: ah, sorry, I misread your question -- what updates are you worried about?
[09:49] <Lareth> adam7: ok.. can you suggest something that I can do to make the update work? I mean it does not let me update anything else. and there are quite a few that things that need updating. Sometimes I really regret installing a 64bit linux
[09:50] <adam7> Lareth: 64bit has nothing to do with your problem I think
[09:50] <adam7> bonhoffer: Synaptic package manager should have a list of all the packages that can be installed -- you just have to double click htem
[09:50] <Lareth> adam7: Somewhere in the error mentions wrong architecture
[09:50] <Chris> adam7: that caused those same .deb files to be re-downloaded, and then installed, same result.
[09:50] <adam7> Lareth: yeah, I saw that
[09:51] <bonhoffer> adam7, so no command-line "grep" that i can do
[09:51] <adam7> Chris: ok, now we know it wasn't corrupted debs
[09:51] <adam7> bonhoffer: apt-cache search packagename
[09:51] <Chris> adam7: so what are the other options/reasons?
[09:51] <bonhoffer> adam7, thanks
[09:51] <Chris> adam7: I believe this may not be an ubuntu fault, and may be a fault with my system, but i'm unsure how to diagnose it
[09:52] <rohan> adam7: iam worried about downlaoding 200mb +
[09:52] <adam7> rohan: just do apt-get update && apt-get install vlc, it won't pull in all the updates
[09:52] <Lareth> How can I perform my update and leave util-linux out (just in case)?
[09:52] <Gnea> rohan: are you on dialup?
[09:52] <adam7> rohan: do you live somewhere bandwidth limited
[09:52] <adam7> otherwise updates are good :)
[09:53] <Lareth> adam7: I think I should download 8.10 and perform a distribution upgrade. Maybe this will help..
[09:53] <adam7> Lareth: or maybe not ;)
[09:53] <Lareth> :(
[09:53] <Chris> Lareth: maybe, but I just did that, and it didn't work :)
[09:54] <adam7> Lareth: It's worth a try though
[09:54] <Chris> Actually I did a fresh install of 8.10 and then update/upgrade and it failed
[09:54] <adam7> Lareth: my only other suggestion would be to reinstall perl
[09:54] <jigpe> hello good evening. how to burn a movie .avi format? brasero and k3b seems not working
[09:54] <Lareth> adam7:  how can I do that with apt?
[09:54] <adam7> jigpe: devede
[09:54] <Chris> adam7: so, no idea what to investigate next?
[09:54] <Gnea> great.
[09:54] <adam7> Lareth: sudo apt-get install --reinstall perl
[09:54] <Lareth> ok
[09:55] <bonhoffer> adam7, this is a first -- apt-get install openoffice.org produces: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:55] <adam7> bonhoffer: try sudo apt-get update first
[09:55] <Lareth> I still get the same error
[09:55] <Lareth> how can this be?
[09:55] <Lareth> grrr
[09:55] <bonhoffer> adam7, i did
[09:55] <bonhoffer> (and still same error)
[09:56] <adam7> bonhoffer: which packages and what are you missing?
[09:56] <Weedy> i have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02) and on the live cd the connection pauses when transfering large ammounts of data
[09:56] <Weedy> anyideas?
[09:56] <Lareth> it still wants to upgrade util-linux
[09:56] <adam7> Chris: google finds lots of stuff for the short read in buffer_copy thing, one second
[09:56] <Lareth> even if I try to reinstall perl
[09:56] <Lareth> how can I bypass that?
[09:56] <bonhoffer> http://pastie.org/356438
[09:57] <adam7> Lareth: you can remove util-linux
[09:57] <Chris> adam7: yes, I've read up on it myself, but it seems to be for specific packages. I've actually had this problem before. I've also seached the bug database.
[09:57] <bonhoffer> adam7, http://pastie.org/356438 has a list of packages . . .
[09:57] <Chris> adam7: I can't believe what I'm experiencing is a bug, so I'm reluctant to submit a bug report; if it was reproducible, every single person installing 8.10 would have the same problem.
[09:58] <Lareth> adam7: if I try to do this it says that it will remove some other packages that I do not want to be removed. (like kubuntu-kde4-desktop etc)
[09:58] <adam7> Chris: a lot of the upgrades run in to configuration-specific problems, that's why they're so hard to catch
[09:58] <Lareth> Isn't there any other way to bypass or correct the problem?
[09:58] <adam7> Lareth: I think kubuntu-kde4-desktop is a metapackage so you can remove it without problems
[09:58] <Chris> adam7: indeed. it's quite frustrating. I might try the same procedure on another system, I expect it will work.
[09:59] <Lareth> adam7: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/102639/
[09:59] <adam7> Lareth: haha, I like it
[09:59] <Chris> adam7: but I'd like to explore some avenue of diagnosis. I even manually ran dpkg on the .deb and tried to strace it to see where/how this "short read" occurs, but there was a bit too much to isolate it easily.
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[09:59] <Lareth> adam7: I don't!
[10:00] <adam7> Lareth: ok
[10:00] <Kevin`> Chris: I had a problem with corruption over wireless a while back with 8.10. I ended up using PAR2 so I could transfer that one file, and later just moved the antennas around. not sure what the core problem was, and I didn't read the whole backlog
[10:00] <Kevin`> (with dpkg)
[10:00] <Chris> Kevin`: I have independently checked the md5sum of the .deb file with one from another mirror downloaded to another machine
[10:00] <Chris> Kevin`: so it's certainly not .deb file corruption
[10:01] <adam7> ActionParsnip: does http://pastebin.com/m2aea0117 mean anything to you?
[10:01] <Chris> Kevin`: and I seriously doubt a linux-image .deb file is broken and I'm the only one experiencing problems. I suspect my configuration or system is doing something horrible.
[10:01] <Lareth> adam7: I can't believe that this package messes my installation so much!
[10:01] <Lareth> there must be a way
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> adam7: you are running a 32bit linux and trying to install 64bit packages
[10:02] <Chris> adam7: thanks for the advice anyway. I'll try some other options myself. If all else fails I'll start debugging dpkg.
[10:02] <adam7> ActionParsnip: it's not mine, it's from the same person who had the kubuntu-kde4 package
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> adam7: well whoever it is, thats whats happening
[10:03] <adam7> Chris: sorry I can't be more helpful :(
[10:03] <adam7> ActionParsnip: ok, even though it says Errno architecture (x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.15.7) does not match executable architecture (x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.24-16-server) -- they're both x86_64 ?
[10:04] <jacekowski> hi
[10:04] <jacekowski> what time is now in "San Diego, CA 92131"?
[10:04] <Flannel> jacekowski: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, but 2:04 AM on the 9th
[10:04] <ksa-24> اهلا
[10:04] <Chris> adam7: it's okay. I'd have been surprised if you had a solution. This has been bugging me for hours already, but I will get to the bottom of it. I'm disappearing now for a few hours.
[10:05] <adam7> Chris: ok, good luck :)
[10:05] <Chris> Cheers
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> adam7: if you run uname -a you will see what architecture you are running
[10:05] <adam7> Lareth: run uname -a
[10:05] <jacekowski> bloody timezones
[10:05] <adam7> jacekowski: there is always timeanddate.com and ubuntu's clock has a timezone feature
[10:05] <Lareth> adam7: Linux ubuntu-tzanos 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 19:35:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:06] <ksa-24> هل من احد
[10:06] <adam7> !info linux-util
[10:06] <Flannel> !sa | ksa-24
[10:06] <adam7> !info util-linux
[10:07] <adam7> ubottu got floodbotted :/
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: what are you trying to acieve?
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> has anyone else here had trouble with likewise-open getting stuck when logging in to GNOME?
[10:08] <Lareth> ActionParsnip:  I cannot update my system. I get an error when trying to update util-linux
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> doesn't seem to happen with KDE
[10:08] <adam7> Lareth: yeah, after looking through the files that come with util-linux I don't think you want to remove it
[10:08] <Obwan234> hello eveyone
[10:08] <Lareth> adam7: Obviously. I do not consider myself a lucky person !
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: i'd uninstall it, upgrade, then reinstate it
[10:09]  * _anu want to autocomplete in g++
[10:09]  * _anu want to autocomplete in gedit
[10:09] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/102639/ this is what I got when I tried to remove it. I am not sure I want to risk that
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> _anu: you can autocomplete in openoffice
[10:09] <adam7> ActionParsnip: util-linux has things like dmesg/tail in it
[10:10] <adam7> I guess you could remove the package but not the files
[10:10] <rccu> _anu: I want some beer
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: you could use some form of force option
[10:11] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: like what? How can I make sure that I just remove this package, I do not break anything essential (because it seems that this package is REALLY needed)
[10:12] <Lareth> I think that I may have to download intrepid and try to upgrade
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: with the installation procedure, if you navigate in terminal where the .deb file are you can use dpkg to forcefull install them
[10:13] <digitalpsyko> where can i find or enable cpu throttling in 8.10 64bit
[10:13] <adam7> digitalpsyko: are you overclocking?
[10:13] <adam7> digitalpsyko: if you have gnome, add the cpu freq. applet to the panel and click on it
[10:13] <digitalpsyko> no id like to underclock to save battery life
[10:14] <rww> digitalpsyko: it's enabled by default using the powernowd daemon. You can control said daemon using the applet that adam7 mentioned.
[10:14] <adam7> digitalpsyko: by default ubuntu should have frequency scaling activated
[10:14] <digitalpsyko> thanks fellas
[10:15] <tinkywonk> can anyone help me with a nvidia 96 resolution problem using the lastest ubuntu intrepid release on an mx400 card
[10:15] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: can you remind me the command to do so?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: if yuo ls there do you see deb files?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: wassup?
[10:16] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: I see the deb file I want in there
[10:16] <bonhoffer> hmm . . . still can't get open-office to install
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: failing that: sudo dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
[10:17] <bonhoffer> http://pastie.org/356451
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: sudo apt-get install open-office
[10:17] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, http://pastie.org/356451
[10:17] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: It fails with both ways :(
[10:18] <tinkywonk> i ave a machine with an msi mx400v32t card in it and i have done a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 intrepid. I have done all the updates and ubuntu recomends i use the nvidia 96 proprietry driver but when i do i cant change resolution and its stuck on 640 but if i ununstall the driver i can get 800 resolution any ideas i have tried everything i can think of
[10:18] <jonaskoelker> hello all.  I try to run "xmodmap .Xmodmap", but get "xmodmap:  please release the following keys within 2 seconds: \n UNNAMED (keysym 0x0, keycode 125)", and then repeating with 4, 8, 16, 32 seconds.  What do I do?  Can I synthesize the relevant KeyRelease event somewhow?  If so, how?
[10:18] <bonhoffer> sudo apt-get install open-office -- package doesn't exist
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Lareth: sudo dpkg --force-all -i <name a db file>
[10:18] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: still the same problem
[10:18] <Dimitree> How do i go to the etc folder from the default folder in terminal ?
[10:18] <bonhoffer> apt-cache had openoffice.org, but produces "broken package"
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-report-builder-bin openoffice.org-base
[10:19] <Lareth> Dimitree: cd /etc
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Dimitree: cd /etc
[10:19] <Dimitree> ty Lareth
[10:19] <SmokeyD1> hey people. On a standard ubuntu install, are users able to boot grub into single user mode and change the root password without knowing it first?
[10:19] <Lareth> Dimitree: and then you can just either cd or cd ~ to go back to your home folder
[10:19] <jonaskoelker> tinkywonk: "I 'ave a machine"?  There's a french accent in your typing ;)
[10:19] <Lareth> Dimitree: ur welcome
[10:20] <tinkywonk> sorry about my speeling lol
[10:20] <Dimitree> thanks ! :)
[10:20] <tinkywonk> spelling
[10:20] <tinkywonk> only just got up
[10:20] <jonaskoelker> me too
[10:20] <SmokeyD1> tinkywonk: needs coffee
[10:20] <rajamocyc> hi......... from thailand
[10:20] <jonaskoelker> good morning
[10:20] <tinkywonk> need something
[10:20] <jonaskoelker> or good $TIMEZONE
[10:20] <adam7> !ot
[10:20] <Lareth> jonaskoelker: lol
[10:21] <tinkywonk> any ideas about my nvidia problem
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> SmokeyD1: log a bug
[10:21] <jonaskoelker> "<ubottu> [...]" <--- yeah, all of you answer my question and stop fiddling around! :D
[10:21] <SmokeyD1> ActionParsnip: why?
[10:21] <cagri> SmokeyD1 sudo passwd root
[10:21] <rajamocyc> Any one  can talk to me.
[10:21] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, adam7, http://pastie.org/356454 <-- still breaking
[10:21] <SmokeyD1> I don't have a bug
[10:21] <Tyrath> is there an iostream.h package in ubuntu? because the c compiler isn't locating it
[10:21] <bonhoffer> rajamocyc, do you have a question?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings; gksudo nvidia-settings
[10:22] <mizipzor> ubuntu wont mount my external usb drive, in /dev/ i have more than one partition on that disk, which is strange since i thought i used the entire disk, none of the partitions will mount but it works fine on a windows computer... any ideas?
[10:22] <SmokeyD1> I was just asking from a security point of view if I have to manually prevent users from booting into single user mode
[10:22] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: apt-file search iostream.h
[10:22] <SmokeyD1> or if that is standard in ubuntu
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-base-core
[10:22] <tinkywonk> i treied that but when i use the nvidia settings it is all greyed out
[10:22] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: or $ locate iostream.h
[10:22] <rajamocyc> No,  But this first time to log in
[10:22] <SmokeyD1> I don't want users switching off my machine, booting into single user mode and change the root password
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: if you read the error you can see they are all wanting that package installed, so install it
[10:22] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: it should automatically detect it using #include
[10:22] <adam7> SmokeyD1: remove the grub entry and add a grub password. of course, if they have phsyical access to your box that won't help
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: then try the command I gave you
[10:22] <server_> !ping
[10:22] <Dimitree> How to open a text file from a folder inside modprobe.d and have permissions to save changes to it ?
[10:23] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: wait, you said "c compiler"?  iostream is C++
[10:23] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: like should be in the c++ class path or something
[10:23] <adam7> SmokeyD1: so set the root password and then when you boot single user it should ask for it
[10:23] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: sorry that's what i meant :/
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Dimitree: gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[10:23] <vazdyk> i don't know what i've done, but i hear myself when i speak to microphone. How to turn it off?
[10:23] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: try "#include <iostream>"
[10:23] <Dimitree> thank you ActionParsnip
[10:23] <rww> rajamocyc: You're connected to the #ubuntu channel on the Freenode IRC server. This channel is for Ubuntu technical support, not for general discussion. Offtopic Ubuntu discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, Freenode help in #freenode.
[10:23] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: so just take out the .h ?
[10:23] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: yep
[10:23] <rww> !irc | rajamocyc: for help with IRC
[10:24] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: "c++ class path" <--- you've done a lot of java, right? :)
[10:24] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, same error: http://pastie.org/356455
[10:24] <rajamocyc> i see
[10:24] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I've done a year of university java
[10:24] <Weedy> i have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02) and on the live cd the connection pauses when transfering large ammounts of data
[10:24] <rajamocyc> thank I
[10:24] <Weedy> anyideas?
[10:24] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ic; ... if you want to include plain-old-C header files, it's <cstdio>, <cstdlib>, ...; prepend a c, remove the .h
[10:25] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: but I can do ASP, PHP, SQL - that sorta thing if it helps... I know they're not programming languages but still...
[10:25] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: then the declarations end up in std::...
[10:25] <vazdyk> so how to stop this?
[10:25] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: they are
[10:25] <Lareth> Anyone with perl knowledge to help me modify Errno.pm so that I can bypass the problem?
[10:25] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: PHP at least
[10:25] <DwightShroot> anyone iphone familiar, that room is dead
[10:25] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I think of PHP as a server side scripting language, it programs webpages and not programs and is consequently a scripting language
[10:25] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I don't know ASP, so maybe you're right about that one
[10:26] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: that's atleast the way i've been taught...
[10:26] <rajamocyc> thank you , for you help,  And  Happy New Years for every one, Thank.........
[10:26] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: there's a stand-alone command-line interpreter.  I'm gonna' facestab anyone who delivers a client-side app as a PHP script, but it's _possible_ ;)
[10:26] <nunuk> joned me
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:27] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: anyways, does your code compile now?
[10:27] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: actually come to think of it I think i'm guilty of that :P but as the app is still run server side I think I'm not 100% guilty :P
[10:27] <SmokeyD1> hey people. Would it be wise to chattr +a my syslog auth.log and messages log files? Or would that break logrotate or other apps?
[10:27] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: nope. no luck :/
[10:27] <Tekno> Hello, I'd want to make nice graph of temperatures. Can you name a software of that?
[10:27] <jonaskoelker> question for everybody: I try to run "xmodmap .Xmodmap", but get "xmodmap:  please release the following keys within 2 seconds: \n UNNAMED (keysym 0x0, keycode 125)", and then repeating with 4, 8, 16, 32 seconds.  What do I do?  Can I synthesize the relevant KeyRelease event somewhow?  If so, how?
[10:28] <vazdyk> Hello.When i speak anything to microphone i hear myself from boxes. How to turn off this option?
[10:28] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: actually i'm not guilty cause it's used by researchers for the company I made it for
[10:28] <jonaskoelker> Tekno: I suppose GNU units can be of help if you don't know the conversion yourself.  Add some shell-scripting glue and feed it into gnuplot... (if you have a unix beard...)
[10:28] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: if it was just used within the company i could be guilty...
[10:29] <Tekno> jonaskoelker: I'm sure there is program for that, but can't remember name
[10:29] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: it tells me cout and endl it doesn't recognise btw
[10:29] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: can you pasatebin your command and source file?
[10:29] <jonaskoelker> ah
[10:29] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: add "using namespace std;" after all the includes
[10:29] <tinkywonk> does no one know about the nvidia 96 driver on ubuntu 8.10
[10:29] <jonaskoelker> Tekno: besides, temperatures of what, and where does the data come from?
[10:30] <Tekno> jonaskoelker: lm-sensors
[10:30] <Tekno> cpu temp etc
[10:30] <jonaskoelker> Tekno: "sensors-applet"?
[10:30] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: test.C:1:21: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive
[10:30] <Tekno> jonaskoelker: yea but I want to see graphs via apache server
[10:30] <jonaskoelker> Tekno: collectd
[10:30] <jonaskoelker> ?
[10:30] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: got a pastebin?
[10:31] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: my code's really not worth the effort... something really basic. just trying to get it to compile. and it does compile if I remove cout, endl and #include <iostream>
[10:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i know enough about programming to understand that the include isn't working
[10:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: which is why the methods i'm calling are also failing
[10:32] <jonaskoelker> ok
[10:33] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: but if it's anything like PHP #include <blah> is just like include(blah.html) or something...
[10:33] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: or is #include <> like import package.* in java?
[10:33] <Fife3951> Hey guys/gals... fairly new to Linux and Ubuntu... What bit torrent client do people recommend, and why.... or is Transmission pretty good.  I'm not looking for anything super complex.
[10:34] <yaris123456789> hey guys is there a tor host out there? so i just enter the ip of server running tor, so i wont have to run tor myself on my server?
[10:34] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: more like php: it just does textual substitution
[10:34] <rww> Fife3951: transmission should be fine. You could also try deluge-torrent or (if you decide you want a command-line one) rtorrent.
[10:34] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ah k
[10:34] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: but typically, there's only declarations in the headers
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | Fife3951
[10:34] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: so the mechanism is like PHP, but the concept is more like java
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Fife3951: try a few, see which you prefer
[10:35] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ah k
[10:35] <dustrial> is a upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid save now? or still buggy?
[10:35] <rww> yaris123456789: ask in the #tor channel on irc.oftc.net. Not many people in here use it.
[10:35] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I just got this random idea that if I learned C++ I'd be more employable
[10:35] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ... in that it adds meaning to some names without pulling the actual code in
[10:35] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: that's probably true
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> dustrial: works ok here but i only use official repos and VERY linux friendly hardware
[10:35] <Fife3951> rww and actionparsnip - thanks guys, appreciate the help.
[10:35] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: which would you say is more used out of java and C++?
[10:36] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: if I was to give an aswer, I'd find some half-assed data and refer you to that
[10:36] <tinkywonk> i think 8.10 isstill very buggy
[10:36] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: haha no worries.
[10:36] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: it's open source, what were you expecting?
[10:36] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I don't know myself.  I've had one programming job, and the company used C++, Java, C#, python, perl and maybe a few others
[10:36] <Lareth> adam7: for some reason Errno.pm which causes the error (or one of the errors) has hardcoded the version that it supports.
[10:36] <Lareth> I will try and change that
[10:36] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I wouldn't be surprised to find some C in there as well
[10:36] <Lareth> and if my machine does not explode I will comment on that
[10:37] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: also if you haven't noticed you pay for windows and it is also buggy
[10:37] <tinkywonk> yes i know its open source but all the things that worked in 8.4 do not work now in 8.10 lol something wrong there
[10:37] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: my opinion (based on nothing) is that it's better to learn C before C++
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: tinkywonk: every OS sucks remember
[10:37] <Ceppe> irc://irc.101-freedom.org/xilence
[10:37] <tinkywonk> windows more than most
[10:37] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: actually you have a point there
[10:38] <jonaskoelker> :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: all OS suck, no OS is perfect or we'd all se it
[10:38]  * jonaskoelker joins the bashing
[10:38] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: i generally find i have to tweak everything in 8.10
[10:38] <jonaskoelker> windows sucks
[10:38] <FloodBot3> jonaskoelker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <jonaskoelker> FloodBot3: stfu
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: it has far better driver support than linux
[10:38] <jussi01> !stfu | jonaskoelker
[10:38] <Lareth> adam7: Yay!!! it worked!!!
[10:38] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: sucks is a strong word. hard to operate without an OS :P
[10:38] <Flannel> jonaskoelker: Please watch your language, and stay on topic
[10:38] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: what, I have to base my opinion on _fact_? :O
[10:38] <tinkywonk> i like 8.10 but i cant get an old mx400 card to work on my pc and i cant get my crad reader to work on my laptop but other than that its sounbd
[10:38] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: thanks for the tip but this is just for a part time job
[10:39] <jonaskoelker> Flannel, jussi01: I'll keep that in mind
[10:39] <pengo> tinkywonk: i've had more problems than that
[10:39] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ok
[10:39] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: PHP wasn't hard to learn as I knew ASP
[10:39] <tinkywonk> and my typing is so bad this morming
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: its all individual, i dont mind windows. I prefer BSD to linux personally
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: its a tool for a job
[10:39] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: we found a fanboy! may we burn him?
[10:39] <nsadmin> Tyrath: if you learn C before C++ as it has been traditionally taught, the skills you gain let you build more robust c++ classes
[10:39] <jonaskoelker> :P
[10:39] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: PHP also wasn't taught in my degree, had to learn it cause a client for one of my subjects wanted us to make the webpages using it
[10:40] <Djon> Hi all
[10:40] <tinkywonk> i dont understand about the card though as it worked in 8.4 but not 8.10
[10:40] <Lareth> ActionParsnip: it seems that I just needed to comment out the linux kernel version checking in Errno.pm
[10:40] <_anu> how to let gedit always show next 5 lines ?
[10:40] <Tyrath> nsadmin: i'll keep that in mind
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: i'm far from it. I dont use 1 OS, I use many to achieve my goals. The statement "windows sucks" is less than meaningless
[10:40] <pengo> sorry to be trolly.. but here's my farewell to Ubuntu + Linux and my list of issues if anyone has a morbid fascination.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6520809
[10:40] <nsadmin> also writing courses of any kind are good for programming
[10:41] <duyuzhi> cedega.6.0
[10:41] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: also what sucks for one person isn't going to suck for the next ;)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: I could rattle off a tonne of reasons why linux sucks and a good many why bsd sucks
[10:41] <tinkywonk> i must admit i have a virtual xp machine on  y laptop but i only use that to check my xbox 360 isos for stealth as cant do that in linux
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: exactly
[10:41] <Tyrath> I would never personally recommend anyone to linux who hasn't had some programming experiance
[10:42] <tinkywonk> same here tyrath
[10:42] <trall> Tyrath: ubuntu is easy
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: i think its usable and decent, my grandad uses it with no sweat but I did set it up for him
[10:42] <trall> Tyrath: Just open up pidgin and get ready to sook
[10:42] <Tyrath> trall: let me guess, you've had some programming experiance :P
[10:42] <Flannel> Hey guys, can we move the current [merits and drawbacks of various OSes] discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?  #ubuntu is solely for support, thanks.
[10:42] <DwightShroot> anyone iphone familiar, that room is dead
[10:42] <tinkywonk> but saying that my gf prefers ubuntu to windows and shes not that clever lol
[10:42] <trall> tinkywonk: Yeah, girls are dumb
[10:42] <Fuse_> Aren't you nice....
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: was just quoshing the "windows sucks" garbage that people spout
[10:43] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I was going to specify that exception. If you are willing to set it up for someone it's not so bad
[10:43] <jonaskoelker> :O
[10:43] <Fuse_> Fucking retards.
[10:43] <trall> Ubuntu is easier to use than windows
[10:43] <trall> It's a swedish army knife disguised as a butter knife
[10:43] <Tyrath> trall: yes, if you know how to use shell that's true
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> trall: both can as easily be used to browse the web as the next
[10:44] <eghie> hello
[10:44] <rww> trall: that should be "swiss"; also, in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:44] <trall> For simple users, it's hardly going to bother them
[10:44] <dustrial> PENGO => imho just a troll
[10:44] <pengo> dustrial: how so?
[10:44] <eghie> how can I change the NICE of a running daemon?
[10:44] <jonaskoelker> eghie: renice
[10:44] <trall> rww: lol, I know. I realized after I wrote it
[10:44] <Flannel> dustrial: that's not really necessary.
[10:44] <eghie> jonaskoelker, thanks
[10:44] <Gnea> pengo: did you ever submit any bug reports for any of those problems?
[10:44] <Tyrath> I deleated pidgin btw. use bitlbee - it's a lot easier but you'll need an irc client which you obviously all have :P
[10:44] <jonaskoelker> eghie: 'welcome
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> eghie: renice, -20 is full cpu (will neglect others) and 20 is hardly any cpu time
[10:45] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: bitlbee for the win :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> eghie: i'd sugest -8 as a max
[10:45] <pengo> Gnea: many are known, well documented issues.. i've submitted some bug reports all the same.
[10:45] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: :D i'm only unhappy that I can't do skype through bitlbee :/
[10:45] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ... but when can I get webcam support in irssi? ;)
[10:45] <eghie> thanks, it works
[10:45] <eghie> nice, is only CPU time, or also other resources?
[10:45] <dustrial> just start to fly through ur comment and first of all compiz cant be any issue second use wine FFS ^^ my windows games are faster under linux ... if you dont stand the need to optimize problems urself ... noone cant help you but paid professionals who want your money.
[10:45] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: that's a good point :P
[10:45] <jonaskoelker> eghie: AFAIK, only cpu time
[10:46] <eghie> ok
[10:46] <tinkywonk> can anyone help me with my nvidia problem as really getting anoyed with it now
[10:46] <jonaskoelker> eghie: try ionice also (apt-file search ionice)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> eghie: well if the cpu is working on the process it will get the resources it needs to run
[10:46] <clansman5> hello
[10:46] <eghie> jonaskoelker, ionice would be something im looking for atm yes
[10:46]  * Tyrath is laughing at how he somehow randomly fixed his nvidia issue ages ago and has no idea how he did it
[10:46] <jonaskoelker> clansman5: hello
[10:46] <clansman5> anyone know how to add documentation to devhelp ?
[10:47] <tinkywonk> lol
[10:47] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: but I wrote my fix somewhere on ubuntu forums
[10:47] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: it's in one of the threads
[10:47] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: type nvidia in the search ubuntuforums.org
[10:47] <jonaskoelker> clansman5: "all the obvious aspects of gnome have already been documented, and explaining technical details is against gnome policy"
[10:47] <jonaskoelker> (sorry)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: whats your issue
[10:47] <tinkywonk> it really is weird casue ubuntu tells me to use the 96 driver but after reading all the info on the web xconfig does not work with it and it does not say anywhere how to get round the problem
[10:48] <clansman5> "jonaskoelker
[10:48] <clansman5>  :)
[10:49] <tinkywonk> i install ubuntu 8.10 clean install did all the updates and it recomends me to activate the 96 driver but when i do i get low reslolution and cant change it
[10:49] <eghie> thanks jonaskoelker and ActionParsnip for your help, that was enough information for now :)
[10:49] <Tyrath> tinkywonk: you should activate the 177 driver
[10:49] <chilli0> hello all
[10:49] <jonaskoelker> eghie: once again, yw :)
[10:49] <eghie> ionice is working very well
[10:49] <jonaskoelker> chilli0: hello world
[10:49] <chilli0> how can i make ubuntu pass ssh onto a vm
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings; gksudo nvidia-settings
[10:49] <chilli0> so if some one ssh to this compter it will make the ssh go to the vm
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: if you get something about nvidia-xorg; run: sudo nvidia-xorg
[10:50] <tinkywonk> i dont have an option to activate any other drivers and if i use envyng and do the 177 that way when i reboot it resets to low graphics
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> tinkywonk: then restart x
[10:50] <Chiliblack> what does ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16) mean?
[10:50] <jonaskoelker> chilli0: you could ssh into the vm with port forwarding
[10:50] <Av2> Hello
[10:50] <Av2> Greetings everyone
[10:50] <Gnea> pengo: wow, who told you that gimp and photoshop were equal?
[10:50] <jonaskoelker> chilli0: ssh -L22:virtualmachine:22 virtualmachine:2222
[10:50] <jonaskoelker> where ssh is running on port 2222 on the vm
[10:51] <jonaskoelker> and 22
[10:51] <clansman5> chilli0: configure your network connection first
[10:51] <_anu> who knows -> ? how to let gedit always show next couple of lines
[10:51] <jonaskoelker> chilli0: actually, you could just$ ssh -L22:vm:22 vm:22
[10:51] <Av2> Is there a way to scan and fix errors of disk like we have an option in windows
[10:51] <rww> !fsck | Av2
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Av2: fsck
[10:51] <jonaskoelker> chilli0: you can (probably) also add an iptables rule that reroutes or SNATs the packet
[10:51] <jonaskoelker> (maybe)
[10:52] <pengo> Gnea: i've seen it mentioned many times that gimp is a photoshop replacement, as i'm sure you have also
[10:52] <chilli0> my router thinks that only on computer is connected
[10:52] <Gnea> pengo: so who paid you to write that?
[10:52] <tinkywonk> im trying that now lads one sec
[10:52] <Av2> Thanks
[10:52] <jonaskoelker> pengo: I've also seen it mentioned that it's not...
[10:52] <dustrial> Gnea: photoshop works fine with wine.
[10:52] <chilli0> and i want people from out of the network
[10:52] <jonaskoelker> _anu: always show the next lines?
[10:52] <chilli0> to ssh to my computer
[10:52] <Gnea> dustrial: that's true
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: if you learn gimp its actually very good. Ive seen some cracking work come out of it
[10:52] <Flannel> Gnea:/lastlog -clear
[10:52] <menocchio> hi all, does somebody know a repository to get openoffice.org 3 for ubuntu?
[10:52] <_anu> jonaskoelker : yes sir
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: you just gotta learn stuff thats different to adobes offering
[10:53] <simplenewb> someone PLEASE!!!! tell me how to get me two computer to connect over ethernet so I can swap files. I  can ping each computer from the other, ssh in and connect but that's it. If I try to connect using samba my laptop says no appication is installed to handle this type of file. I have samba, samba-common and smb-client installed. On my desktop I do have samba-server installed. I've also tried sftp but I keep getting the message conn
[10:53] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: you're telling the wrong person :)
[10:53] <pengo> Gnea: it's my own experience. what don't you believe?
[10:53] <jonaskoelker> _anu: so you want the cursor to never be at the bottom of the window, essentially?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: you sound like you think photoshop is better
[10:53] <clansman5> simplenewb: you can use scp to exchange files
[10:53] <dustrial> ActionParsnip:  yeah, but i got the feeling that unix-like-painting tools are evry conter-intuitive ( there is a patch for gimp to make menues ps-alike
[10:53] <alluk> hi
[10:53] <chilli0> Gnea:  adobe photo shop cs2 works under wine
[10:53] <chilli0> hello alluk
[10:53] <Gnea> simplenewb: have you installed SWAT and setup samba?
[10:53] <jonaskoelker> _anu: I'm not sure how to do that.  I think it'd require a plugin, and I don't know of any one (but my knowledge is incomplete, and I'm not >95% sure)
[10:54] <kabackky> hi, anybody ever come across a problem where in hardy herron, after a while the whole screen turns to what looks like static or lines, if I switch to other screens, the screen is still corrupted? I seem to be able to work around the problem by turning off special effects.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> menocchio: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[10:54] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: I use sshfs with great success
[10:54] <simplenewb> clansman5: I've tried that to and I still get the connection refused message I'm at my end here
[10:54] <oCean_> simplenewb: two linux machines?
[10:54] <Av2> what is the command for using Fschk?
[10:54] <_anu> jonaskoelker : thank you :)
[10:54] <alluk> i have just installed ubuntu but it doesn't boot, the first error message is: "usplash: Setting mode 1920x1440 failed"
[10:54] <jonaskoelker> _anu: yw :)
[10:54] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: uhm, hello? read this and please be sure you're talking to the right person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6520809
[10:54] <simplenewb> oCean_: yes
[10:54] <menocchio> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll have a look
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> dustrial: then just learn different menus like you learned to use ubuntu instead of windows
[10:54] <pengo> gimp does not support 16 bit per colour, and only imports raw images poorly (with a plugin).
[10:54] <clansman5> simplenewb: can you show a usage example, maybe you miss some parameters
[10:55] <pengo> (camera raw)
[10:55] <Gnea> Flannel: right.
[10:55] <zer0> what more application same as network manager also can be installed both with no conflict???
[10:55] <jonaskoelker> alluk: when it starts up, press esc to enter grub.  Pick the top entry and hit 'e' to edit.  Change the line that says "linu"-something--removing the "splash"
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: its just a new tool to learn, just like you learned ubuntu when you moved over from windows
[10:55] <jonaskoelker> alluk: and try again :)
[10:55] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: i have sshfs installed, no help. I can connect each computer to the other in every way except the way I need. I don't get it.
[10:55] <chilli0> zer0:  im not sure if u can but wcid is great im using it atm
[10:55] <jonaskoelker> alluk: if it works, you can make the same change in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:56] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: pm?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: if you want
[10:56] <zer0> chilli0::wicd can be installed together with nm
[10:56] <rww> zer0: Do you understand /why/ wicd and NM were /deliberately/ set so that their packages conflict? If you have two different programs controlling your network interfaces doing anything more than trivial things, they're going to step on each others' toes.
[10:56] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: what happens when you$ "sshfs userAtBoxA@BoxA: mountpoint-for-A"?
[10:56] <chilli0> o
[10:57] <zer0> rww::but i have problem with nm on fluxbox
[10:57] <oCean_> simplenewb: okay, so what is your command (and the output) Command should be like "scp filename user@otherhost:/path/to/location"
[10:57] <rww> zer0: then uninstall it and use wicd =/
[10:57] <zer0> or how can i make it show nm icon on startup??
[10:57] <Av2> I cant mount one of my disk it is giving error how do i fix it
[10:57] <etu> Hi there!
[10:57] <trall> okay guys
[10:57] <Joe_> intrepid, system froze while Azureus(Vuze) was open, restarted but now it seems Azureus won't recognize my settings from before (went to a default set up) but all my old settings are still in home folder... any ideas how to fix it?
[10:57] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: just a thought do I have to install anything before I can adequately program in C++ ?
[10:57] <jonaskoelker> Av2: pastebin the error and give us a link :)
[10:57] <dustrial> ActionParsnip: well i am not afraid of learning menues... i just say paint-guis are counterintuitive in unix world... i still use em ;D
[10:57] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: your editor of choice and a compiler
[10:58] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I don't have to install packages and the like?
[10:58] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: like is there a jdk for C++?
[10:58] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I think they come with the compiler
[10:58] <simplenewb> I'm trying the commands again and gathering info, I have to connect to my desktop again, physically.
[10:58] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: see this is really weird :/
[10:59] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: is there any package that prints lines you know of?
[10:59] <alluk> jonaskoelker: i get the same error message
[10:59] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: other than iostream?
[10:59] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: the C++ standard library is quite small (compared to anything other than C)
[10:59] <zer0> what is best way to i install wicd??sudo/synaptic??
[10:59] <rww> zer0: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[10:59] <Tyrath> zer0: sudo apt-get install
[10:59] <jonaskoelker> alluk: ok :(  I'm out of ideas
[10:59] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: <cstdio>, the printf function
[10:59] <Tyrath> zer0: actually ignore that :P
[11:00] <etu> Hmm, does anyone have some ide about problems with Ubuntu 8.10 on HP nx6110? I will install it on a friends laptop today.
[11:00] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i'll see if that works cheers
[11:00] <mizipzor> ubuntu wont mount my external usb drive, in /dev/ i have more than one partition on that disk, which is strange since i thought i used the entire disk, none of the partitions will mount but it works fine on a windows computer... any ideas?
[11:00] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ... or just putchar/getchar
[11:00] <Av2> jonaskoelker:  pls accept the file
[11:00] <zer0> i think i will get internet problem then...
[11:00] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: main { int c; while ((c = getchar()) != -1) putchar(c); return 0; }
[11:00] <jonaskoelker> Av2: please pastebin it
[11:00] <Av2> i cant its a screen shot
[11:00] <jonaskoelker> Av2: or flickr or some anonymous image hosting
[11:01] <etu> Av2: http://imagehost.org/
[11:01] <jonaskoelker> etu: is that the one everybody uses on brainstorm too?
[11:01] <Rudd-O> for those who are interested: http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/a-better-way-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-live-usb-drive
[11:01] <pengo> mizipzor: maybe you've unmounted it uncleanly in windows
[11:01] <etu> jonaskoelker: Dunno, about the laptop?
[11:01] <jonaskoelker> etu: no, imagehost.org
[11:02] <pengo> mizipzor: does it bring up an error message?
[11:02] <pablop> how do I monitor cpu and memory usage on ubuntu server?
[11:02] <etu> jonaskoelker: hm, no idea, but it works better than all other imagehosts sites I know
[11:02] <Av2> thanks etu
[11:02] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I don't get it. wouldn't that loop just never start?
[11:02] <Av2> jonaskoelker:  http://e.imagehost.org/0634/Screenshot.png
[11:02] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: s/-1/EOF/
[11:02] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ah k
[11:03] <woody86> can anyone help mp figure out why my wireless works, but won't show me any networks?
[11:03] <mizipzor> pengo: ntfs signature missing
[11:03] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: still int i needs a value :/
[11:03] <simplenewb> oCean_, jonaskoelker, clansman5: it finally connected. I can't believe it, I've been at this for hours, googling, testing, installed, re-installing, un-installing, screaming, cursing, etc.... I connected using a different router this time I guess my old crappy befws11 just doesn't like me anymore. Thanks guys. The only way I can assume is helped is with magic.
[11:03] <pengo> mizipzor: i dunno
[11:03] <mizipzor> pengo: which would indicate that there is no ntfs partition at all, but since the disk works fine in windows...
[11:03] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: actually scrap that. i still don't think i get the method
[11:04] <jonaskoelker> Av2: are you sure the volume is OK (i.e. you don't need to chkdisk /f)?
[11:04] <oCean_> simplenewb: yay! :)
[11:04] <liuweigang> hello
[11:04] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: or, your old router hates linux ;)
[11:04] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: congrats on getting it working, no matter what the magic is :)
[11:05] <jonaskoelker> liuweigang: hello
[11:05] <jonaskoelker> pablop: top?
[11:05] <Av2> jonaskoelker:  how do i test it
[11:05] <simplenewb> oCean_: Exactly! I've been so frustrated with linux lately, I've personally experienced several annoying regressions.
[11:05] <livre> livre
[11:05] <jonaskoelker> pablop: or x-forwarded conky, or collectd...
[11:05] <livre> livre
[11:05] <jonaskoelker> Av2: try the chkdisk /f reboot reboot dance and see if anything changes
[11:05] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: thanks, you can't understand how happy i am.
[11:06] <jonaskoelker> Av2: sucks, I know; read a good comic while doing it :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: like what?
[11:06] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: just as happy as when I recovered my /home partition after deleting it by accident? :P
[11:08] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: here's a really noob question but how do you execute a file after you've compiled it. it said in a tutorial that you just type it in shell
[11:08] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: aka: g++ test.C -o test; test
[11:08] <simplenewb> ActionParsnip: Bluetooth transfers stopped working out of the box, and after installing additional packages. Laptop brightness control now crashes my computer as opposed to working like it used to. I can no longer read MMC cards from my built in card reader. My desktop machine doesn't work with a fresh install if I have a PCI video card installed, it worked for the 7.04 and 7.10 releases for the first time ever and now it's broke ag
[11:08] <oCean_> Tyrath: if it's executable (chmod +x test), then "./test" should work
[11:09] <Tyrath> oCean_: do I have to change permissions on it to executible?
[11:09] <Tyrath> oCean_: doesn't the compiler handle that stuff?
[11:09] <oCean_> Tyrath: I'm not sure
[11:09] <Tyrath> oCean_: in java i don't need to worry, i just use java <filename>
[11:09] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: the compiler makes output files executable
[11:09] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: Oh yours is worse. that happened to me once and I was just screwed because I had enabled full drive encryption and couldn't get anything else (including a live cd) to mount the disk
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: sick with gutsy then
[11:10] <mizipzor> if i had a usb drive plugged into windows and then unplugged it in a non-clean way, is there a way to get around that except for plugging it into windows again and doing it cleanly? dont have access to a windows install here
[11:10] <oCean_> ah
[11:10] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: so why doesn't typing test in shell work?
[11:10] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: probably because '.' is not in your $PATH
[11:10] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: oooooh...
[11:10] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: disk encryption vs. partition recovery :(
[11:10] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ahh k
[11:10] <simplenewb> ActionParsnip: I had thought about it but several packages I used don't play nice with gutsy and I really need those packages.
[11:11] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: wait, can't you set up the same wrapper on a livecd and just not mount the b0rked partition?  after all, it's the block device, not the file system, that's encrypted...
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: if you do a clean install and have internet access you could try upgrading from root console before startng the x server up
[11:11] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ok really weird but for some reason it outputted the c++ output before it showed my pwd in shell... is that supposed to happen?
[11:11] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ie, test.C:1:21: warning: extra tokens at end of #include directive
[11:11] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: gah, sorry, not that
[11:11] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: pastebin a typescript
[11:12] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: How's it going kids?~/Documents$
[11:12] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: How's it going kids was the script
[11:12] <simplenewb> ActionParsnip: What I end up having to do is pull the card, boot a live cd and mount my disk, blacklist intel_agp and agpgart then re-install my vid card and everything works
[11:12] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i mean the C++ file
[11:12] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: looks reasonably normal; try printing out a newline at the end
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: you have the solution then, whats the problem?
[11:12] <jonaskoelker> ... of your program
[11:13] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: from what i've read it's possible but in practice I had to just give up on it.
[11:13] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb:  :(
[11:13] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: that makes me a sad panda
[11:13] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: /n ?
[11:13] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: \n
[11:13] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: but yeah
[11:13] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: lol thanks
[11:13] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: or `endl', but I guess #define endl '\n'
[11:13] <simplenewb> ActionParsnip: I have no idea, it took me literally years to find the solution though. It's something to do with Dell PCs. The guy I got the fix from also used a dell with a PCI vid card.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: have you published your finding on the ubuntu forum?
[11:14] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: sorry, i don't get it. do i put endl after the " "
[11:14] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: Yea I was pretty bummed, I'm a security nut and encrypt + password protect everything. I also make backups of backups of backups, daily!
[11:15] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: the new line thing worked though :)
[11:15] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: depends on how your code looks.  Just put \n in the string
[11:15] <simplenewb> ActionParsnip: I filled a bug report a few years ago but it's gotten no attention or action
[11:15] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i did and it worked :)
[11:15] <subone> Can someone PLEASE help me. I did everything I could to get S-Video output working for my ATI Radeon X800 and it worked fine, but now everytime i reboot X wants to go into low graphics mode!
[11:15] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: main() { cout << "hello, world" << endl; return 0; }
[11:15] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: is cout in cstdio though?
[11:15] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: no
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: put it on the forum so others can read your finding and fix their issue if they have the same problem
[11:16] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: encryption is know to be the best way to lose all your data :)
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !suggest
[11:16] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: but iostream wasn't working for me :/
[11:16] <simplenewb> ActionParsnip: ok i will.
[11:16] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ah ok
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> simplenewb: good lad
[11:16] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: for some weird reason I got the file not found or something like that eror
[11:16] <Chiliblack> lsmod
[11:16] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: on <iostream>?
[11:16] <subone> Anyone? comon, at the moment i just want my normal video back
[11:17] <subone> cant start x in anything but low res mode
[11:17] <sleepy_cat> anyone knows how to use gdb
[11:17] <Gnea> subone: is your s-video still plugged in?
[11:17] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: yea I've noticed that myself but I just can't stand the thought of someone gaining access to my files. I use a 33 character password to encypt everything and then I encrypt it a second time with a 10 digit password. Like I said I'm a nut about encryption
[11:17] <Joe_> My system, 8.10, froze and when I rebooted Vuze (which was running, and the cause of the freeze) seems to have reverted to default settings... it now refuses to read any of my old settings... is there anyway to fix it (they all appear to still be there, just ignored)
[11:17] <subone> Gnea: yes, does that matter?
[11:17] <jonaskoelker> subone: what does `xrandr' say?
[11:17] <Gnea> subone: it might - what happens if you reboot with it unplugged, and then plug it back in?
[11:18] <sleepy_cat> how to print 3 lines of code at a time in chunk after chunk program of 10 line in gdb
[11:18] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ok I don't think iostream is the problem all of a sudden
[11:18] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: hmm... double encryption... which cipher?
[11:18] <sleepy_cat> whts the command
[11:18] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I'm not getting the not found error
[11:18] <sleepy_cat> like bt 3
[11:18] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: just getting errors with cout and endl
[11:18] <StuartD> Hi, I am trying to run the following command "sudo apt-get install smbfs" but I get a 404 missing and it wont install, is there anyway around this?
[11:18] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ...saying they weren't declared in scope
[11:18] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: AES512
[11:18] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: do you have "using namespace std"?
[11:18] <subone> Gnea: its an output converter to rca cable, i dont see how the computer could recognize a difference
[11:19] <Tyrath> StuartD: it may not be in the repositories
[11:19] <Chiliblack> on booting up it is reported that my hd doesn't exist in /dev and I an dropped to busy box, I check the /dev and my hd is there...any ideas
[11:19] <Tyrath> StuartD: have you tried hunting for the source on google?
[11:19] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: I encrypt twice so if you happen to guess/brute force my 33 character pass you still won't have plain text
[11:19] <StuartD> Tyrath: Yes I have looked around but no luck at all
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> StuartD: can you pastein the command and full error please
[11:19] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker:
[11:20] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: with some systems, E_k1(E_k2(m)) = E_k3(m) for some k3.  Is that not true for AES512?
[11:20] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I get the extra tokens at end of #include directive error
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> !paste | StuartD
[11:20] <StuartD> Tyrath: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[11:20] <Gnea> subone: well, the signal is being passed differently than it is through a d-sub or dvi connection, plus s-video acts as a hog - iow, it wants to be the only connection to pass information
[11:20] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: ohh... the `using' should be on the next line
[11:20] <subone> jonaskoelker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102672/
[11:20] <diablo_vortex> hi guys i have one question please, i need to open 13 gnome-terminal via script,, in which i want to run two commands, 1st ssh jumpbox 2nd ssh destination box ,,,
[11:21] <Tyrath> StuartD: does it belong to samba? in which case sudo apt-get install samba-smbfs may work... i don't know :/
[11:21] <Gnea> subone: all I'm saying is, give it a try and see what happens - not saying it will work right, but it might help you figure out what's wrong and how to fix it
[11:21] <Tyrath> StuartD: i don't personally know much about samba or smbfs :/
[11:21] <diablo_vortex> i am using gnome-terminal -e ssh jumpbox ---how do i pass the password as the argument
[11:21] <subone> Gnea: i have no idea what any of that means, what i do know is it was working fine, i watched a video on the tv and laptop simultaneously and then when i rebooted it died
[11:21] <falstaff_> Hello, i try to create a preference screen dynamical, which works wonderful so far. There is just one problem: the new preference screens preferences (for example edittextpreference) get very small dialogs... any idea?
[11:21] <jonaskoelker> diablo_vortex: you don't want to do that; then your password is readable from /proc
[11:21] <Tyrath> StuartD: also do a sudo apt-cache search <filename> and it it doesn't show up sudo apt-get install <filename> prob won't work
[11:21] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: No that's not true of AES512. you cant take pass a + pass b and decrypt with pass c I know this as fact.
[11:22] <StuartD> Tyrath: Its samba related yes, the installtion worked perfect on my other server but not a particular one
[11:22] <jonaskoelker> diablo_vortex: use public key authentication
[11:22] <Tyrath> StuartD: otherwise try aptitude
[11:22] <jonaskoelker> simplenewb: oh, ok.  Let's see if I can prove it
[11:22] <quibbler> StuartD, I see it in Synaptic
[11:22] <diablo_vortex> jonaskoelker, doesnt really matter
[11:22] <subone> Gnea: ideally i should be able to plug it in at will and it should just work... this is very frustrating and embarrasing
[11:22] <Gnea> subone: right - it's typical of s-video - it's going to hog the connection from the get-go. i'm guessing that you plugged the s-video+rca in after it was already booted up, am I correct?
[11:22] <Vaux> What's Ubuntu?
[11:22] <simplenewb> jonaskoelker: Ok, I'm not nervous ;)
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: xterm -e sh -c <your command + args here>
[11:22] <Gnea> !ubuntu | Vaux
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: put an & after it too
[11:23] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, thanks dude ill try that
[11:23] <Vaux> Thank You
[11:23] <Gnea> Vaux: cheers :)
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: have a script with loads of those for all your connections
[11:23] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: nice thanks, it worked. now what's that namespace stuff and why do i have to do it?
[11:23] <trall> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Ubuntu
[11:23] <Vaux> Thank You
[11:23] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i know namespaces exist in java, but i don't use them...
[11:23] <StuartD> Thanks guys thats worked brilliant :)
[11:24] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, how do i give the password to it
[11:24] <Tyrath> StuartD: glad you got it fixed. sorry i couldn't be of more help
[11:24] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: `using namespace foo' is sort of like `import foo' in java
[11:24] <subone> Gnea: i dont recall, but this happened to me once before while i was trying to get it all working in the midst of several reboots, so i reinstalled the ATI driver and that fixed it, but then i had to start over with the svideo thing, so i guess it was plugged in from boot
[11:24] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, xterm -e sh -c "ssh jumpbox "
[11:24] <StuartD> no you was perfect, thats helped me no end
[11:24] <StuartD> thank you
[11:24] <abhi1> how to open a new group and take ownership in irssi????
[11:24] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, where and how do i pass the password
[11:24] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ahh... and std isn't automatically imported? :/
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: xterm -e sh ssh jumpbox &
[11:24] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: in that names ("cout") get matched not only against the "global" cout but also std::cout
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: it may need " round the command
[11:25] <nicgios> Hi all. I have a font-encoding problem. How can I change from utf8 to ISO-8815 fonts? I've modified /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and /etc/environment. Then i launched dpkg-reconfigure and the locales are correctly generated. But when I reboot they come back to utf8...
[11:25] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: no, it isn't.
[11:25] <nicgios> poiners on the web are ok
[11:25] <flashkidd> someone knows how to trobleshoting k3b?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: xterm -e sh -c "ssh jumpbox &"
[11:25] <subone> in all honesty i do a lot of "talking up" of the benefits of linux and ubuntu in particular but more and more i am being let down and embarrassed when i show it off to friends
[11:25] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, yeh i also need to pass the passowrd as argument so i dont need to giv in password all the time
[11:25] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: you've lost me with the std::cout thing :P
[11:25] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: isn't that python?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> xterm -e sh -c "ssh user@jumpbox &"
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: im not sure of how to pass the pasword too
[11:26] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: no, python calls it sys.stdout
[11:26] <daredevilthere> Hey guys how can i make my ubuntu boot in terminal first
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: man ssh
[11:26] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, thats exactly what i am after
[11:26] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: what is it?
[11:26] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: roughly System.out
[11:26] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i'm guessing :: means that the method belongs to stf
[11:26] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i could be wrong but I'm not sure you have to import a package to do system.out
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> diablo_vortex: if it doesnt work, man xterm
[11:26] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: anyways; java example: "void main(String[] argv) {...}" --> java has an implicit "import java.lang;" everywhere, and turns "String" into "java.lang.String"
[11:26] <subone> i guess nobody cares about what i just shared...
[11:26] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: actually i'm prob wrong
[11:27] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: java.io prob handles that
[11:27] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: yeah, "import system"
[11:27] <eolo999> just some 'vs' question: software raid or raid pci controller?
[11:27] <Gnea> subone: that might have been the glitch then - i know that s-video is extremely picky and only likes to work right during a particular sequence
[11:27] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i've never typed import system and never had the problem
[11:27] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: oh, nvm
[11:27] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I thought it said sys.stdout, not system.out
[11:27] <diablo_vortex> ActionParsnip, thanks dude,, i will get abck to you later
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> cool
[11:27] <subone> Gnea: i hope you are not suggesting reinstalling my driver every time after i use svideo
[11:27] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: oh lol. no worries
[11:28] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: you could, in java, say "java.util.List list = new java.util.ArrayList();"
[11:28] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: without doing any imports
[11:28] <Gnea> subone: not at all. i'm suggesting that you should try reconnecting the s-video cable until it works right - do you remember when you plugged it in last time that it worked as it should?
[11:28] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: sorry i don't understand what you are talking about. i know you can do that but what's this in relation too
[11:28] <eolo999> i have to implemet a raid solution: software or hardware?
[11:28] <Gnea> subone: I mean, had you plugged it in before or after you loaded the ATI driver?
[11:28] <ubuntu_> ciao
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> eolo999: hardware is nicer but costs more, software raid isnt as graceful but is cheaper
[11:29] <daredevilthere> How can i change the ubuntu starting screen ?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> why
[11:29] <subone> Gnea: yes right after i reinstalled the driver i did a reboot, then i made the changes to the xorg.conf so that the svideo was a Screen and then another reboot and it worked fine, then one more reboot killed everything
[11:29] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: oh actually... is std::cout like java.lang.blah ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> eolo999: i'd always use harware if you can use it
[11:29] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: in C++, you can do "std::util::list list* = new std::util::arraylist();" without any `using'.
[11:29] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: except I made up the names
[11:29] <eolo999> ActionParsnip: and which hardware you suggest?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: do you mean the boot screen
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> eolo999: anything on the hcl that is known to work
[11:30] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ahh k. got ya
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | eolo999
[11:30] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip: no not boot screen the ubuntu screen
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: the log on screen?
[11:30] <subone> this is so troublesome
[11:30] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: are you familiar with the package JavaMail ?
[11:30] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip: which we see whn the services are starting
[11:30] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: no
[11:30] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: can you send emails using java?
[11:30] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I think I know the language, and java.util ...
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: oh right
[11:30] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip: the scrren that that ubuntu name and orange progress bar
[11:31] <Gnea> subone: have you tried turning it off completely, and turning it back on?
[11:31] <Some_ux> Hi
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: thats the boot screen
[11:31] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ah k. so C++ is your specialty?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !temes | daredevilthere
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !themes
[11:31] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: just create and OutputSocketFileNetworkStreamReaderWriter, connect it to port 25, and do SMTP manually :P
[11:31] <subone> Gnea: turning what off?
[11:31] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: or something :P
[11:31] <Gnea> subone: the laptop - using the shutdown selection instead of reboot
[11:31] <eolo999> ActionParsnip: don't find any reference to raid controllers there...
[11:31] <subone> uh
[11:31] <subone> no
[11:32] <subone> Gnea: that matters?
[11:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: I've never been taught how to use java over the internet
[11:32] <Gnea> see what happens :)
[11:32] <Some_ux> What does mem=3G in /boot/grub/menu.lst  (kernel) mean ?
[11:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: but i've heard of the java.net package
[11:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: - which apparently does internet stuff
[11:32] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip:  any idea how to change that
[11:32] <subone> Gnea: so now i cant reboot my computer anymore? this isnt getting any better
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: its all in those factoids
[11:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: otherwise there's javax.mail which i can't get to work
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: check www.gnome-look.org
[11:32] <Gnea> subone: well, we're talking about electricity being passed from one unit to another - clearly, the way that the signal is being passed over the s-video cable is incorrect
[11:32] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: the java prog just times out when i try to run it
[11:32] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I'm more at home in C++, that's certain.  I think I got C down pretty good, I'm fine in python, I'm learning haskell, am less-than mediocre (just beginning) in perl and and sml/ocaml...
[11:33] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: pass.  Try #java
[11:33] <subone> Gnea: how would you know that?
[11:33] <Gnea> subone: what? i'm not saying anything permanent! i'm saying, try these things out before jumping to a conclusion
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> daredevilthere: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Change-Ubuntu-Bootsplash-Theme-55237.shtml
[11:33] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: so if someone asked you to write something in C++ that send emails you would know what package to use and what methods?
[11:33] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip: ya that might help let me check
[11:33] <Gnea> subone: how would i know that any electronic device uses eletricity?
[11:33] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: It'd take a googling
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !usplash | daredevilthere
[11:34] <tiyowan> Hi folks. Just a quick question. Could someone point me in the direction of a tool to batch-convert mht  to pdfs? I've been searching on the web, but I can't seem to find any linux-based tools. Right now, I'm doing these files one by one, which is pretty awful.
[11:34] <subone> Gnea: so turn off my computer turn it back on adn then see if my laptop screen will allow regular screen size?
[11:34] <Gnea> subone: yes.
[11:34] <subone> brb
[11:34] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: ah k :/. man i wish i could figure out how to get it working in java
[11:34] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: cause i was thinking i might try c++
[11:34] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: but i don't know if c++ has like the JOptionPane java class
[11:35] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip: thatnks
[11:35] <daredevilthere> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:35] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: that's a gui widget, right?
[11:35] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: yep
[11:35] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: there are several gui libraries available for c++, such as QT, gtk++mm-something, wxWidgets, ...
[11:35] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: it's good because I can stick everything in the same pane and type in the fields when i like or hit the buttons when i like
[11:36] <_moro_bana_> fglr driver is refusing --purge,it says /etc/ati is not empty.how do i remove it?
[11:36] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: none of them are part of the C++ standard library, though; C++ doesn't have the same "every single kind of battery included" philosophy that java has
[11:36] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: the thing is i sort of know how to use JOptionPane stuff cause I did two semesters using it for java. i suck at the api docs tho
[11:37] <jonaskoelker> _moro_bana_: you could try rm -rf /etc/ati, but I don't know that I'd recommend it
[11:37] <adac> Can someone help me? I have a nvidia 9800GT and the proprietary nvidia drivers. Unfortunately the screen resolution every time I login switches to 1280x1024 instead of 1680x1050. Heres my xorg.conf file: http://pastie.org/356486
[11:37] <Some_ux> I can't seem to get my wired network to work with the AMD64 version of Ubuntu. I am fairly certain it has something to do with a faulty skge driver. Adding mem=3G in my /boot/grub/menu.lst seems to fix it. But I don't know what the heck that means
[11:37] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i suppose that can be a good thing when you don't want to waste space :)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> _moro_bana_: make sure the folder is empty and you require none of its subfolders
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> _moro_bana_: then the command that jonaskoelker said is right
[11:38] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: true, but that's probably mostly relevant for embedded systemss
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> _moro_bana_: its HUGELY aggressive so use with massive care
[11:38] <_moro_bana_> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:38] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: unless you can't afford real disks, code is cheap to store
[11:38] <_moro_bana_> ActionParsnip: I know its power
[11:38] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: compared to my ~/media which is 350 out of 370 gigs worth of home videos and songs I wrote :)
[11:39] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: heh that's the good thing about linux. you can have the smallest programs
[11:39] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: *cough* *cough*
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> _moro_bana_: good, just a warning. I warn everyone so everyone knows. I assume nothing in here
[11:39] <Joe_> intrepid with a Logitech MX Revolution mouse imwheel doesn't recognize the second (thumb) wheel, how can I make it do so?
[11:39] <subone> Gnea: that didnt work but i got it to show my laptop screen right by telling X to create a default config file
[11:39] <Joe_> xev does see it
[11:39] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: yeah see that's my problem. i want my day to day applications to be really simple so i can waste the space on other things
[11:39] <subone> Gnea: but now the svideo is still plugged in but no signal to the tv
[11:40] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I wouldn't know about the potential to make a "small windows" or small windows programs; I can look at what microsoft does, though, but I haven't...
[11:40] <_moro_bana_> ActionParsnip: Is the command going to delete /ati or its contents?
[11:40] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: I don't follow that line of thinking...
[11:40] <Av1> jonaskoelker:  I am still having problems to mount the drive
[11:40] <qqx> could anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/102682/
[11:40] <Neremor> hello!
[11:40] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: or rather, I don't understand simplicity vs. space
[11:40] <Av1> how do i resolve it
[11:40] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: you use bitlbee tho :P
[11:40] <Neremor> i'm searching for an application with which i'm able to delete files more than one time... 16x or 32x times
[11:40] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: why use bitlbee when you could use something resource intensive like pidgin
[11:41] <jonaskoelker> Av1: pass.  Grab someone else's attention.  Now you at least can tell them it's not the chkdisk /f -thing :)
[11:41] <LynggaardDk> Hello, I got a weird CPU scaling problem.. When I run on AC power it scales down to 1/2 speed. What to do ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> _moro_bana_: yes, everything in that folder will go
[11:41] <jonaskoelker> Av1: sorry I can't be of more help
[11:41]  * Tyrath would move the opera if he didn't like firefox so much
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Joe_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2727025
[11:41] <Neremor> can anybody help me with thos?
[11:41] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: that's more a RAM issue, isn't it?
[11:41] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: not that it isn't true...
[11:41] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: actually you're probably right there
[11:42] <jonaskoelker> LynggaardDk: disable the CPU frequency scaling daemon?
[11:42] <Av1> I am not even able to loads windows
[11:42] <Some_ux> I assume the mem=3G parameter indicates how much memory the system can use. But I'm not sure.
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: once you delete the file, its gone
[11:42] <tiyowan> Neremor: I'm sorry. But are you looking for a way to delete multiple files at once?
[11:42] <jonaskoelker> LynggaardDk: or stress test the CPU and see if the clock speed doesn't go up to max.  If I understand it correctly
[11:42] <Av1> not able to load windows
[11:42] <Thxpnp^Laptop> opera could run on ubuntu ?
[11:42] <jonaskoelker> Av1: oh, that's bad
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: unless you get into data recovery situations
[11:42] <Flannel> !opera | Thxpnp^Laptop
[11:42] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: except with things like bitlbee, you have to switch off the daemon manually when you don't want it to clog up your bandwidth, (ie, kill bitlbee)
[11:42] <Thxpnp^Laptop> thx =)
[11:42] <Neremor> no
[11:42] <Neremor> sorry
[11:43] <jonaskoelker> Av1: I'd probably stick in a live CD and run something like testdisk to see if it can make sense of the partition
[11:43] <Neremor> iÄm from germany so i don't really know how you call it in english ;)
[11:43] <Some_ux> Either way, if i set the Kernel parameter to 3G, does it mean that I am effectively running a 32bit version of Ubuntu ? rather than 64 ?
[11:43] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: which involves finding it's number
[11:43] <jonaskoelker> Av1: but I haven't given that thought much thought
[11:43] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: it's process number even
[11:43] <sachael> someone knowledgeable with cairo graphics can tell me - can cairo just draw stuff on the screen, not in a window?
[11:43] <Neremor> i'm trying to delete files, overwriting them  multiple times to make sure it can't be recovered
[11:43] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: alias psg='ps -Fe | grep'
[11:43] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: :)
[11:43] <LynggaardDk> jonaskoelker: I am stressing the CPU, it goes up to max when on battery, but not when on AC power
[11:43] <subone> jeez i need a linux guru to explain to me why i should continue to use linux
[11:43] <jonaskoelker> LynggaardDk: pass
[11:44] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: heh nice
[11:44] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: i never thought of binding it to an alias
[11:44] <jonaskoelker> subone: because it's cool and works with less hassle than windows! :P
[11:44] <qqx> could anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/102682/
[11:44] <Tyrath> jonaskoelker: but i'm pretty used to typing ps ax | grep blah
[11:44] <subone> jonaskoelker: i disagree
[11:44] <jonaskoelker> subone: I know
[11:44] <subone> jonaskoelker: yes windows can be painful but i have never gone through this much pain in windows
[11:44] <Gnea> subone: i'm not sure... everything that i google for either doesn't seem to work or has been deleted
[11:45] <LynggaardDk> jonaskoelker: how do I disable cpu scaling ?
[11:45] <Joe_> umm... all of the sudden I can't click on things... any idea why?  mouse still moves, keyboard works fine (mouse also works fine on other computer view synergy)
[11:45] <tiyowan> Neremor: Ah! :) Ja. I don't know of a file-based application for that; only programs that will wipe the entire disc.
[11:45] <jonaskoelker> LynggaardDk: ps -Fe | grep cpu; kill <first numeric column>
[11:45] <Tyrath> i have to admit it would be great if the next version of ubuntu doesn't ensure that every new installed program has to be tweaked to get it to work
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: you could treat the file as text and write a suitable amount of 0s to the file, then write Zs to it (or some other character) a good many times, then once you have done this enough times, delete the file itself
[11:45] <tiyowan> subone: You aren't compelled to use linux. :) Just use what works for you.
[11:45] <Tyrath> i seem to have to tweak every program i install
[11:45] <Gnea> tiyowan: that's not very encouraging.
[11:46] <jonaskoelker> LynggaardDk: or grep -i cpu /etc/init.d/*; /etc/init.d/<relevant script> stop
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: you could rename it something else too so the name it obscured
[11:46] <subone> tiyowan: i am compelled to use it, but each and every day i am less and less compelled
[11:46] <jonaskoelker> LynggaardDk: and put an "exit 0" in at the top if you want to disable it for good, or uninstall the package
[11:46] <Tyrath> and i still can't get hibernate to work - that's the shell app
[11:46] <Gnea> Tyrath: like what? what programs do you have to tweak, and for what?
[11:46] <tiyowan> Gnea: Oh? Encouragement! :) Right...
[11:46] <Chiliblack> grub is very very slow to load...does that indicate a disc problem (ubuntu server isn't actually botting up
[11:46] <Some_ux> The thing is, I have 4G of memory. If i set the kernel parameter to mem=3G, does that effectively mean that i can't use 1G of my available memory ?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: possibly, try fsck on it
[11:46] <jonaskoelker> Joe_: kill and restart synergy?
[11:47] <subone> i mean nothing works on this damn laptop and everyone says my computer is a piece
[11:47] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, I can't get that far
[11:47] <Tyrath> Gnea: i've used the wrong word when I say tweak. I usually have to fiddle with screen dimensions, comp settings, etc. to get things to work
[11:47] <tiyowan> subone: Going back to Windows? Are you crazy? Do you honestly have the patience to put up with it?
[11:47] <Chiliblack> I am stuck in grub
[11:47] <Neremor> hm
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: boot to livecd and test it there
[11:47] <Joe_> jonaskoelker synergy is working correctly...
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: how old is the drive?
[11:47] <Gnea> Tyrath: so have I, but that doesn't stop me
[11:47] <Neremor> i think that wont work but I'm not an hard disk specialist ;)
[11:47] <Tyrath> Gnea: it's not stopping me either
[11:47] <jonaskoelker> Joe_: how did you tell that?
[11:47] <jinja-sheep> Just woke up.  It's 5:46 am herre.  I'm trying to resolve an issue I'm having for a day.  Desktop icons missing from the action.  I didn't change or untoggle anything *at all*.
[11:47] <Chiliblack> oh it is a 60gig wd it is pretty old
[11:47] <subone> tiyowan: windows may be insecure and unstable but at least things work like you expect them to...
[11:48] <vjacob> how do I most easily compile an optimized kernel for my thinkpad on ubuntu?
[11:48] <vjacob> right now i'm using eeebuntu with a generic kernel
[11:48] <Tyrath> Gnea: I would love to be able to hibernate properly through shell tho
[11:48] <Neremor> i think i would have to readout the blocks the file is saved on on the hard disk and than write some chars to this blocks
[11:48] <Chiliblack> it was working fine in fedora core 1
[11:48] <Joe_> jonaskoelker by moving my mouse over to this keyboard, clicking on xchat and typing?
[11:48] <Neremor> i think just handle the file as text won't do the job
[11:48] <Tyrath> Gnea: the hibernate application doesn't hibernate properly
[11:48] <subone> whole lotta good a system does me thats secure and stable and doesnt do a god damn thing i want/need it to do
[11:48] <Neremor> i hope my english isn't too bad ;)
[11:48] <Tyrath> Gnea: which means if I want to hibernate/suspend i have to always do it through the GUI
[11:48] <Gnea> Tyrath: so troubleshoot it, google it
[11:49] <Some_ux> Does the mem parameter which i give the kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst mean that i limit the amount of available memory ?
[11:49] <jonaskoelker> Joe_: try killing synergy anyways, just to rule it out
[11:49] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, is there anything new that I can disable in grub to get the system to boot?
[11:49] <Tyrath> Gnea: it's difficult without a log
[11:49] <jonaskoelker> Joe_: forall it: if it's running, it can cause problems :)
[11:49] <Tyrath> Gnea: see, it powers down but i just doesn't power up afterward
[11:49] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  Hibernate through the shell?  What's the command for hibernate + suspend?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Chiliblack
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: of course it will as the data stored for the file will be changed, if you change it enough times it will obscure the data
[11:50] <Gnea> subone: sometimes, i find that stepping away from the computer and coming back to it after calming down tends to get the issue resolved. it's quite impossible to help someone who's ready to burst over some other issue that they're having.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: then when you delete it, the only data that will be found is the garbage you piped into it and not the coherent data before
[11:50] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: there's no command for it. there's applications that do it, and there's a hibernate.sh file somewhere on the HD that does it, but they don't work effectively
[11:50] <subone> Gnea: i'm afraid my issues are compounding each time i step away
[11:50] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  Ah. I'll try google.  Maybe somebody came up with a solution.
[11:50] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: try locate hibernate.sh and then bind it to an alias if you like
[11:50] <Gnea> subone: and I'm sorry that I don't know what to do from here, but maybe someone else does
[11:51] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: like bind the location to an alias
[11:51] <Gnea> subone: well, without patience, problems only get compounded. it's a fact of life.
[11:51] <tiyowan> subone: Hmm. In my case, I have found the initial investment of time that I have made in linux has reimbursed itself many times over. You need to be patient with it, mate.
[11:51] <Neremor> hm yes you're right
[11:51] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: you'll probably have to type ./hibernate.sh from the directory to start it
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: export LOCATION=/path/to/folder maybe
[11:51] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: ie, ./directory/hivernate.sh
[11:51] <subone> you're making an assumption there that you know how long ive been trying to deal with this
[11:51] <Neremor> i think i'm gonna write some app for that so other may take profit of this too
[11:51] <Some_ux> How much memory can linux 32bit access ?
[11:51] <Neremor> thanks :)
[11:52] <sachael> anyone here worked with cairo? (even better if with the python bindings)
[11:52] <subone> ive had this damn machine for over a year now and i still have loads of issues
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Some_ux: 3.2Gb, If you have more you'll need a 64bit cpu and 64bit kernel
[11:53] <Some_ux> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[11:53] <Gnea> subone: I don't even know what machine you have - what's the make/model?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: just make a script to write a million of 1 character to the file, echo "a" > /path/to/file
[11:53] <subone> my DVD/CD-RW doesnt play DVDs, creates CD-Rs but not BOOTABLE cdrs(no idea how thats even possible), cant get svideo to work, Flash runs slower than dirt in firefox (Metacafe videos are just unviewable), and thats to start
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: then use echo "a" >> /path/to/file
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: you'll need a for loop of some kind to iterate the command
[11:53] <subone> Sager NP7620
[11:54] <jinja-sheep> I'm curious -- In Power Management Preferences -- There are an action -- "Put computer to sleep when inactive for N minutes"  -- Now, the term "sleep" stands for suspend?
[11:54] <Gnea> subone: my DVD/CDRW drive died. tried to replace it, it doesn't work. the mousepad has died. everything else seems to work just fine... firefox gets slow if i open too many tabs, but that's cuz i don't have a whole lot of memory in this thing.. it's a fault of firefox, not ubuntu.
[11:54] <Neremor> yes but i would like to have a graphical interface for that
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: if its something you plan to use a lot, make it into a script which will accept arguments so you can run it on different files
[11:54] <Neremor> and i can't find any
[11:54] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, tried to disable acpi but it didn't appear to stick. basically I am getting ata1: SRST failed, then it tells me the drive doesn't exist
[11:54] <jonaskoelker> jinja-sheep: no, sleep doesn't stand for anything.  GNOME apps don't have to be specific about what they do or use the same terminology as anyone else.  Says so right there in the HIG :)
[11:54] <jonaskoelker> jinja-sheep: (sorry)
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: try nodma
[11:55] <Some_ux> Why is it that limiting the amount of memory which my 64bit ubuntu uses, fixes driver issues ?
[11:55] <Gnea> subone: so you know what I did? I bought an external unit to plug a drive into and plugged it into the USB port - bam, it works, albiet a little slow at times, but, it works.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Neremor: no need for a gui, just make your own script and have a filename passable as an arg. Something like: obscurefile /home/somedatafile
[11:56] <jinja-sheep> jonaskoelker:  I'm looking into HIG. ;o
[11:56] <subone> Gnea: yes firefox takes up a lot of memory i am aware, so does Vuze now, so i had to switch torrent clients
[11:56] <the_geremy> hi have someone know-how how to connect nokia e51 to wammu or some other application in linux to manage phone?
[11:56] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: If you could write me a mht-to-pdf converter for linux... ;)
[11:56] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: ps, let me know if you get it working properly ;)
[11:56] <Chiliblack> is that the command too, it isn't ;isted in the url I got
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: mht?
[11:56] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  I think the command is... sudo /etc/acpi/sleepbtn.sh -- I'll try it soon. :o
[11:56] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Yeah. Microsoft HTML archives.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: yeah its an option, nodma noapic acpi=off
[11:56] <jonaskoelker> jinja-sheep: feel free to do so if you like reading that kind of document, but it's not going to have your answer :)
[11:57] <subone> but i would bet my salary that if i installed windows on here, my dvd drive amonsts other things would work and i may even find devices i didnt know i had
[11:57] <the_geremy> hi, which phone manager can manage nokia e51?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: if you got a viewer you could print them to a pdf printer
[11:57] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: I'm really kicking myself for spending all those years saving things as .mht.
[11:58] <Gnea> subone: you know what's sad? i don't even see your model listed up here: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sager.html  so no one ever wrote a howto for it. maybe you could? at least document what you've been able to get to work so far - who knows, you might get responses from people who have the tv-out working correctly. ubuntuforums.org is a great place to do that at
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3311005#post3311005
[11:58] <vjacob> how do I most easily compile an optimized kernel for my thinkpad on ubuntu?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | vjacob
[11:58] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Yep. I found out that Opera opens the files fine, and printing them to PDFs is all right as well. That's not the problem. The problem is when you have 1500 of these things and want to batch-convert them.
[11:58] <Gnea> subone: are you on 8.04 or 8.10?
[11:58] <subone> Gnea: 8.10 and upgrading from8.04 caused a bunch of probs
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: i see your point, until you find a solution thats all i can suggest. and rock on opera
[11:59] <vjacob> ActionParsnip: thanks man
[11:59] <Gnea> subone: yeah, i've been noticing some problems with 8.10 lately, probably going to go back to 8.04 on at least one of my systems soon.. especially with the dvd/cd writing thing, 8.10 broke it horribly - they're aware of it, it just hasn't been fixed yet
[11:59] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I'll go take a look at that link. This issue has really thrown a wrench in my plans to get my data over to ubuntu.
[12:00] <jonaskoelker> Tyrath: have fun with C++
[12:00] <the_geremy> hi, which phone manager can manage nokia e51?
[12:00] <jonaskoelker> I'm out
[12:00] <the_geremy> hi, which phone manager can manage nokia e51 in linux?
[12:00] <Gnea> subone: so keep in mind, that 8.04 is an LTS while 8.10 is not, it's much more stable
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: you may be able to script it somehow but im not sure
[12:01] <subone> LTS?
[12:01] <Gnea> !LTS
[12:01] <subone> ic
[12:01] <Gnea> so going back to 8.04 would probably be a good thing
[12:02] <subone> hmmm that link you posted... i posted my info but there was no place to put in details...
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: perl may be your saviour
[12:02] <Gnea> subone: which one?
[12:02] <subone> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/entry.html
[12:02] <Some_ux> My theory is that limiting ubuntu 64bit to 3.2G memory usage is a quick and dirty way of ensuring that 32bit drivers on the 64bit version work.  Am i correct ?
[12:02] <subone> oh i have to submit a url
[12:03] <Gnea> subone: right, you need to write your own HOWTO, then submit it
[12:03] <adam7> Some_ux: no
[12:03] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: i'll give it a shot. thanks
[12:03] <adam7> Some_ux: at least, I don't think so. I suspect the fact that everything is compiled for 64bit will cause problems.
[12:03] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  Still googling through the forums. :<
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: theres a converter to convert to war
[12:03] <subone> Gnea: dude theres no way i can write a howto unless i started from scratch and figured everything out again
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !info kmhtconvert
[12:04] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: I'm thinking now that I should just get the stuff transferred over to home, and use Opera for the time being. I've found kmhtconvert; it converts mht to konqueror war. I'm reading the mhtml specs now, the encoding doesn't seem too hard. You should it would be a good first open-source programming project to work on? :)
[12:04] <Gnea> subone: if you install 8.04, wouldn't that constitute starting from scratch?
[12:04] <subone> i didnt
[12:04] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, this is an old machine a celeron 633, not sure if any of my edis in grub are actually working
[12:04] <Gnea> subone: at least get the basics down, like lspci
[12:04] <subone> i bought it with it on here
[12:04] <Gnea> o.O
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: well if you get further then its doing someting
[12:04] <Gnea> from where?
[12:04] <subone> a friend
[12:04] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: er, You *think it would.
[12:05] <subone> i got more workign than he did though
[12:05] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, no further
[12:05] <subone> he never could get compiz working, but i just installed the ATI driver
[12:05] <Gnea> subone: I see... then if I were you, I'd go back to 8.04 and document things along the way
[12:05] <mthed> I just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and i'm having problems with my soundcard (M-Audio delta 1010LT). The main problem being i can't hear anything.
[12:05] <Yorix> can anybody helpme get a user in the sudoers list? its the only acc, there is no root acc activated... what can i do?
[12:05] <subone> Gnea: idk, windows is looking more and more attractive
[12:06] <adam7> Yorix: you mean sudo isn't working now?
[12:06] <Yorix> nope
[12:06] <adam7> Yorix: can you boot into the recovery prompt?
[12:06] <MOUD> Hey all
[12:06] <Yorix> dont know, let me try
[12:06] <Yorix> brb
[12:06] <adam7> Yorix: and just out of curiosity, how did you manage to remove all the sudo users?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> hey MOUD
[12:07] <Gnea> subone: well that's up to you. the only reason Linux got any good was by people participating and making it better. if you're unwilling to write a howto, you're just taking from the community and not giving back.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> adam7: press esc when grub offers it, you'll see recover mode next to your kernel
[12:07] <adam7> Yorix: what ActionParsnip said
[12:08] <subone> Gnea: not everyone is great at this stuff, i consider myself at least an above average computer user, but this is just too much
[12:08] <Comet> and if you're too lazy to write anything, then donate some money..
[12:08] <Comet> ;D
[12:08] <Yorix> adam7: sudo visudo -> commented the admin group line, uncommented the sudo:nopasswd line without putting myself into sudo group first.... those things you do over a long day of work without thinking....
[12:08] <MOUD> how are you ActionParsnip?
[12:08] <adam7> Yorix: that would do it :)
[12:09] <Yorix> :P
[12:09] <adam7> Yorix: anyway, recovery console -> visudo
[12:09] <Yorix> will try right now...
[12:09] <adam7> if that doesn't work we always have cd+chroot
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: nb, glad when i finish work in 3 hours
[12:09] <Gnea> subone: no one gets great at it unless they try, but if you're unwilling to try, or if you feel that you've tried as much as you can and you can't see yourself going any further, then by all means, ignore my advice and do what you want to do. I'll just go and play some video game instead of trying to help people out.
[12:10] <subone> if only i could play a game on here...
[12:10] <MOUD> oh, just 3 more hours, :)
[12:10] <subone> most of my games dont work in wine
[12:10] <Comet> subone: whats wrong with xbill?
[12:10] <Gnea> after all, who wants to make things better when no one wants things to get better?
[12:10] <tiyowan> subone: A post on Ubuntu Experiences & Testimonials detailing your problems would be helpful, too.
[12:10] <subone> xbill?
[12:10] <mthed> I just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and i'm having problems with my soundcard (M-Audio delta 1010LT). The main problem being i can't hear anything.
[12:10] <Gnea> subone: right?!
[12:11] <Comet> yea man.. best action game ever
[12:11] <adam7> !audio | mthed
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> !info xbill
[12:11] <Gnea> !sound
[12:11] <MOUD> what's a good web browser other than firefox?
[12:11] <Comet> you dont need to emulate games, when there's already many bad ass games
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: opera all the way :D
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> !opera | MOUD
[12:11] <adam7> MOUD: konqueror
[12:11] <Gnea> subone: have you gone through the sound troubleshooting guide? you may be surprised...
[12:11] <pipo> hallo
[12:11] <adam7> MOUD: also epiphany for gnome works too
[12:11] <Comet> i'm actually stoked with openarena, chromium, nexuiz, all bad ass games
[12:11] <subone> i shouldnt have to use alternative games when someone buys me a game i should be able to play it
[12:12] <subone> but thats the least of my issues atm
[12:12] <adam7> subone: dualboot window
[12:12] <adam7> s
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Comet: frets on fire, urban terror
[12:12] <Gnea> Comet: battle for wesnoth is pretty decent, trying to get savage to work, but it's not in the repo
[12:12] <Comet> oh hell yea, frets on fire blew me away..
[12:12] <pipo> hee guido
[12:12] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  Were you able to hibernate successfully on your machine?  I don't think I ever did for my side.
[12:12] <subone> frets on fire doesnt even work for me
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Comet: specially with the mhl mod
[12:12] <subone> runs at like 1fps
[12:12] <MOUD> I though that opera was only for windows since it used the IE's engine
[12:13] <tiyowan> Gnea: I love battle for wesnoth. :)
[12:13] <tiyowan> Comet: Tremulous is quite good as well.
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> subone: drop resolution down and turn of antialiasing
[12:13] <Comet> i like the cheesey games too.. there's a great one from the kdegames pack called knetwalk.. real fun
[12:13] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  If so, would you try the command?  "sudo pmi action hibernate"
[12:13] <Gnea> !sound | subone
[12:13] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: i couldn't so i gave up a while back, but there's an application that doe it
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: nope, its proprietary though
[12:13] <adam7> MOUD: I think opera hsa its own engine
[12:13] <subone> ActionParsnip: tried that
[12:13] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, the internet is littered with issues like mine, seems to be a kernel issue
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: opera is his own man
[12:13] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: apparently it's unsafe to hibernate without the application
[12:13] <subone> Gnea: i never said i had any issues with sound...?
[12:13] <MOUD> I see
[12:13] <pipo> zij jullie allemaal engelsen dan hiero?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Chiliblack: do you have older kernels still installed?
[12:14] <Comet> tiyowan: wow cool game!! havent heard of that one yet
[12:14] <jinja-sheep> Tyrath:  I did came back from hibernate (sorta).  I wasn't able to use my bluetooth keyboard/mouse when resume.
[12:14] <Comet> and people say linux doesnt have good games.. crazy talk..
[12:14] <Chiliblack> no it was a new install, I wiped out fedora core 1, and installed ubuntu server 8.10
[12:14] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: :/
[12:14] <un_dave_> does anyone know what app i could use to display system info on a monitor, fullscreen, large text. A status screen. ?
[12:14] <Gnea> subone: perhaps I misread, sorry
[12:14] <subone> in fact sound seems to be the only thing i have working completely atm
[12:14] <pipo> i  hate linux
[12:14] <MOUD> you know, linux rocks in terms of internet speed compared to windows. Firefox is faster, the download is faster and no problems with windows virus
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> pipo: dont use it then
[12:15] <Magnata> izn
[12:15] <Magnata> izn
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: i find opera faster than firefox
[12:15] <izN> OIE
[12:15] <Magnata> =D
[12:15] <izN> nós vamos ser banidos, só pode falar em inglês aqui
[12:15] <Gnea> well, I g2g, later
[12:15] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: O.o, i'll give a try
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: although once i apt-built it it went much nicer
[12:15] <Magnata> aé?
[12:15] <Magnata> UIAHEUIAHEAE
[12:15] <adam7> ActionParsnip: does opera use gtk?
[12:15] <Magnata> izN, U ARE GAY?
[12:15] <Seveas> adam7, no, it's a Qt app
[12:15] <adam7> Seveas: ah
[12:15] <Seveas> Magnata, behave.
[12:15] <izN> yeh, i'm gay
[12:15] <corden> hello guys just drop by
[12:16] <Comet> wish google would hurry up and release chrome for linux.. i liked the windows version, besides not having the ability to fullscreen
[12:16] <izN> i like handsome guys
[12:16] <Comet> i just like the idea of threaded processes
[12:16] <Magnata> Seveas hello
[12:16] <subone> so anyway, no ideas from anyone on how to get svideo to work?
[12:16] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: I'll use synaptic Package manager, is much easier for me, it does all the work
[12:16] <adam7> Chrome was a pretty good browser
[12:16] <Magnata> izN i love dick
[12:16] <corden> just want to ask, if it's ok to update the 8.04 repo to 8.10?
[12:16] <izN> que inglês bonito
[12:16] <izN> AEHUAEA
[12:16] <Seveas> !ops | Magnata
[12:16] <Seveas> !ops | izN
[12:16] <izN> :|
[12:16] <adam7> corden: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:16] <MOUD> subone: what video card do you have?
[12:16] <izN> sevens really like big cocks
[12:16] <the_geremy> hi, which phone manager can manage nokia e51 in linux?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: i use apt-get, synaptic takes too long
[12:17] <subone> MOUD: ATI Radeon X800
[12:17] <Tyrath> !spam | izN
[12:17] <Magnata> what Seveas?
[12:17] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: ah
[12:17] <Seveas> jussi01, izN as well please :)
[12:17] <MOUD> subone: sorry, I know about NVidia
[12:17] <mthed> i get the following error while trying to test the sound output from sound preferences audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not get/set settings from/on resource.
[12:17] <Chiliblack> ActionParsnip, it is a total pita working with this machine, it is a very tiny box...I was trying to pxe install but wasn't having much fun with that so I installed by using a cdrom drive temporaly. Might look in to pxe again before I end up opening the case again
[12:17] <izN> sorry
[12:17] <izN> ;)
[12:17] <izN> sorry, Seveas!
[12:17] <Tyrath> anyhow i'm out
[12:17] <izN> i'll stay quiet.
[12:17] <Tyrath> thanks for the help people
[12:17] <corden> i don't want to update 8.10, all i want is to update the repo.
[12:17] <Tyrath> jinja-sheep: best of luck
[12:17] <adam7> corden: ?
[12:17] <Myrtti> moving on
[12:17] <adam7> corden: if you update the repo you get 8.10
[12:18] <corden> oic
[12:18] <MOUD> is the 64-bit version of ubuntu only for AMD?
[12:18] <adam7> MOUD: nope
[12:18] <Comet> i've had svideo working many times without any problems.. might need to add a line or two to xorg.conf, but its not too bad
[12:18] <corden> my plan is like this. i wan to add the main repo of 8.10 to my current repo
[12:18] <Seveas> MOUD, no, any x86_64 CPU will do
[12:18] <rww> MOUD: nope, it'll work with any 64-bit CPU.
[12:18] <MOUD> oh ok then :)
[12:18] <subone> Comet: can you assist me?
[12:18] <MOUD> nice
[12:18] <Seveas> rww, that's not entirely true. It won't sork on 64bit ppc/sparc/alpha for instance :)
[12:19] <corden> cause i want to keep the LTS, while using the 8.10 updates
[12:19] <rww> Seveas: yeah, I thought that after I sent that message.
[12:19] <Myrtti> corden: eh?
[12:19] <Comet> subone: are you using a monitor and a TV?
[12:19] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Just of curiosity, I ran cat on some of the mht files. All the text is readable, except for the bits with images, which are just encoded in base64 I think. :)
[12:19] <adam7> corden: you can't do that :/
[12:19] <subone> Comet: my laptop screen and a tv
[12:19] <Comet> ok.. you're going to need to configure twinview
[12:19] <adam7> corden: if you want 8.10, just upgrade :)
[12:19] <corden> oic adam7
[12:19] <rww> corden: Mixing repositories like that is a Bad Idea.
[12:19] <asfjio> hello, i can't mount normal CD-R on my ubuntu, but i can open it normaly on windows. what could be the problem?
[12:20] <subone> Comet: ok...
[12:20]  * subone runs `man twinview`
[12:20] <Comet> subone: its an nvidia card?
[12:20] <MOUD> Does anyone know how to make the NVidia SLI to work? I didn't find any option to change how much RAM it should get on the "Nvidia X server settings"
[12:20] <subone> ATI
[12:20] <corden> ok, i guess keep the current repo of 8.04 and wait for updates :D
[12:20] <pipo> bye people i'm gone ,have i nice day
[12:21] <corden> actually i have plan to update my repo to Jaunty --- silly me :D
[12:21] <Comet> subone: do you have the drivers installed?
[12:21] <subone> the ATI proprietary driver yes
[12:21] <adam7> corden: you'll need to go to 8.10 first though before Jaunty I think
[12:21] <pctony> Seveas: you sorted yet?
[12:21] <Seveas> pctony, no, I'm still in random order
[12:22] <Comet> subone: try a:   aticonfig --ovt=disable
[12:22] <Comet> and restart your xserver
[12:22] <corden> i was able to update my apt-get to Jaunty by just adding the repo link of Jaunty
[12:22] <corden> but i didn't do the update.
[12:22] <pctony> Seveas: you asked for op assisatnce...
[12:22] <subone> Comet: what will that do?
[12:22] <subone> Comet: sudo right?
[12:23] <hareldvd> using xfce, I set font DPI on xfce setting manager->User interface which seem fine but Firefox stays with too small fonts. Any idea?
[12:23] <adam7> corden: by changing source.lst?
[12:23] <corden> patience with guys, i'm just experimenting my system :D
[12:23] <Seveas> pctony, an op showed up and banned the annoying people, so that's sorted
[12:23] <corden> yup adam7
[12:23] <pctony> thanks
[12:23] <pctony> that's what I wanted to know
[12:23] <adam7> corden: then you're definitely "experimenting" because that isn't the recommened way :P
[12:24] <corden> i went to packages.ubuntu.com and select any package from Jaunty and copy the repo link :)
[12:24] <Comet> subone: if that doesnt work, try this howto: http://www.larryni.me.uk/blog/2008/11/17/enable-s-video-on-ati-cards/
[12:24] <woody86> what command can I run to see the different drives? (ie. sda1. sdb2, etc)
[12:24] <subone> Comet: brb
[12:24] <adam7> woody86: ls /dev/*da*
[12:24] <tiyowan> corden: How's that coming along?
[12:24] <vicmackey> woody86, fdisk -l
[12:24] <adam7> woody86: or ls /dev/?da* might be better actually
[12:24] <corden> i guess Jaunty would be a good thing -- fast boot can't wait to experience it
[12:25] <adam7> corden: just remember jaunty is four months from being released
[12:25] <kke_> any MyCert -equivalent for linux? (gui for generating vpn keyfiles)
[12:25] <corden> tiyowan, i did not try it, it was just playing in my mind
[12:25] <tiyowan> corden: Oh, virtualization. Nice. ;)
[12:25] <adam7> corden: if you're bored, join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic :D
[12:26] <Joe_> Intrepid, using the nvidia-96 drivers, have nvidia-glx-96 installed but it claims glx isn't active (when trying to do something like glx gears)... any ideas?
[12:26] <MOUD> anyone knows the apt get for opera?
[12:26] <corden> 8.04 ok guys tnx for the attention
[12:26] <SmokeyD1> hey people. If I use "find / -name something -ls" how can I prevent find from searching /proc and /dev?
[12:26] <corden> ops sorry about 8.04
[12:26] <woody86> tyvm! adam7 vicmackey
[12:26] <SmokeyD1> or in other words, how can I let find ignore some directories
[12:26] <corden> i hope 8.04 repo will update it bluez-utils
[12:26] <Joe_> result of glxgears on 8.10 with nvidia-96 (and nvidia-glx-96) installed, two nvidia cards with 4 monitors, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:27] <Seveas> SmokeyD1, -name /proc -prune oslt. Search the manpage for prune
[12:27] <corden> i;m currently using the bluez-utils of debian sid
[12:27] <adam7> corden: once Ubuntu is released, the only thing you'll get are security updates (unless you use backports)
[12:27] <takamarou> Hi, I just installed a new video card, and it was giving me pnpbios and acpi problems.  Because of those, I changed my kernel options to pnpbios=off and acpi=off.  Now I am getting sent to some sort of shell and getting the error Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/random_letters does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!   from within this shell I found that file, and can use exec to run it, but then my X messes  up.  any ideas?
[12:28] <corden> @adam7 - i do all the update as long its from the update manager ;)
[12:28] <jinja-sheep> !user
[12:28] <SmokeyD1> Seveas: -name /proc causes find to look for files named /proc right?
[12:28] <SmokeyD1> and -prune to not descend into folders
[12:28] <SmokeyD1> that is not what I want
[12:28] <corden> but bluez-utils in 8.04 is way behing, so debian said come to the rescue
[12:28] <SmokeyD1> I want to search / recursively, but only not descend into /proc and /dev
[12:29] <Nicekiwi9> hurro?
[12:29] <corden> they said bluez in 8.04 has bug
[12:29] <subone> Comet: that worked, ty
[12:29] <Seveas> SmokeyD1, -name /proc -prune does that. The -name only effects the -prune there (or so I remember)
[12:29] <MOUD> what's the apt command to download and install opera web browser?
[12:29] <corden> im using bluetooth of for the PyS60
[12:29] <adam7> SmokeyD1: I think find / -prune -name /proc -name /dev ?
[12:29] <Seveas> SmokeyD1, you could also google for find+prune+examples :)
[12:30] <Nicekiwi9> how can i upgrade from kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 alpha 2?
[12:30] <subone> Comet: however it is just a copy of my screen at 1680x1050, how do i make the tv 800x600
[12:30] <adam7> !ubuntu+1 | Nicekiwi9
[12:30] <tiyowan> MOUD: sudo apt-get opera
[12:30] <MOUD> oh, I used sudo apt-get install opera :/,  thanks :)
[12:31] <tiyowan> MOUD: Hehehe. :) Yes, forgot the "install" bit.
[12:31] <daredevilthere> where does wget downloads the deg pakages i mean in /tmp directory ?
[12:31] <takamarou> anyone know about the error:  Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/b88e... does not exist!  Dropping to a shell!
[12:32] <adam7> takamarou: did you do some repartitioning recently?
[12:32] <jeeves_Moss> takamarou, do you have a Compaq RAID card?
[12:32] <MOUD> strange, cant install it.  ->   Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:32] <fermio91> hi all, how can i install opengl driver on wine?
[12:32] <takamarou> adam7, I added a video card, and changed my kernel options to pnpbios=off, and acpi=off
[12:32] <MOUD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:32] <MOUD> is only available from another source
[12:32] <MOUD> E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[12:32] <FloodBot3> MOUD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <takamarou> jeeves_Moss, no.
[12:32] <adam7> takamarou: hmm ok, that shouldn't do it
[12:32] <MOUD> ops, sorry, didn't want to do that
[12:33] <jeeves_Moss> takamarou, I got that error when I was trying to install on my Compaq server
[12:33] <tiyowan> MOUD: That's odd. Try installing from Synaptic Package Manager in System -> Admin.
[12:33] <adam7> takamarou: anyway, the problem is grub uses the uuid of the disk to figure out what parititon to boot from, and it can't find the disk
[12:33] <takamarou> adam7, I was having errors with pnpBios and acpi, so i just turned them off.
[12:33] <adam7> !uuid | takamarou
[12:33] <adam7> takamarou: the solution is to find the uuid of the root partition and update /boot/grub/meny.lst with it
[12:34] <takamarou> adam7, where do I put that in menu.lst?
[12:34] <adam7> takamarou: first make a copy of menu.lst so we don't accidentally mess it up
[12:34] <adam7> takamarou: and then pastebin it
[12:34] <pengo> MOUD: opera has its own engine
[12:35] <pengo> oops sorry scroll not moved
[12:35] <daniele> ciao
[12:35] <takamarou> adam7, can't do that.  the comp running ubuntu won't boot.  stuck at the shell.  I'm on my laptop right now.
[12:35] <daniele> un info
[12:35] <pengo> ciao
[12:35] <adam7> takamarou: ok
[12:35] <adam7> takamarou: go to the computer that won't boot and load grub
[12:35] <takamarou> adam7, I can boot into a non-graphical mode, but I still won't be able ro pastebin it
[12:35] <mylisto> hey everyone...
[12:36] <daredevilthere> mylisto:  HEY
[12:36] <adam7> takamarou: hm ok
[12:36] <mylisto> I've got a movie that I am trying to burn to a dvd...There are two 700meg avi's
[12:36] <adam7> takamarou: ok, boot into non-graphical mode
[12:36] <mylisto> Can I just add them each as a title in deeveedee?
[12:36] <perfects> hello all
[12:36] <daniele> e possibile fare 2 account tipo windows con 2 user diverzi
[12:36] <daredevilthere> mylisto: no dont add them if u want to play dvd on dcd player
[12:37] <jinja-sheep> Is it possible to connect to irc.freenode.net from terminal for irc?
[12:37] <mylisto> what should I do then?
[12:37] <daredevilthere> mylisto: find a good program and make a dvd 1st out of them than burn
[12:37] <DefamedPrawn> hi. Is there a channel for intel mac ubuntu users?
[12:37] <tiyowan> jinja-sheep: Yes. Check out irssi.
[12:37] <mylisto> what?
[12:37] <perfects> how can i use the live cd to determine whether my system supports ubuntu
[12:37] <jinja-sheep> tiyowan:  Without the packages.  Pure old style, if any.
[12:37] <takamarou> adam7, ok.. booting.  Just FYI, to get into this non-graphical mode, I'm just finding the file that it says doesn't exist and executing it.  it boots, but when I try to start gdm it says my X Server is broken
[12:37] <MOUD> i'm downloading from the website, it's a .deb file
[12:37] <mylisto> daredevilthere: I've got deeveedee...
[12:38] <mylisto> it can take video files and make an iso that I can burn to a dvd later
[12:38] <perfects> earlier when i tried to install ubuntu through live cd it is recognising my modem or something else
[12:38] <adam7> takamarou: ok, one step at a time
[12:38] <SmokeyD1> Seveas: It won't work.
[12:38] <SmokeyD1> find / -perm -2 -name proc -prune ! -type l -ls
[12:38] <adam7> takamarou: what file does it say doesn't exist
[12:38] <takamarou> adam7, ok, I'm in.
[12:38] <daredevilthere> mylisto: wht u meandeeveedee
[12:38] <SmokeyD1> doesn't show any files
[12:38] <tiyowan> jinja-sheep: Oh, in that case, I don't know.
[12:38] <takamarou> adam7, /dev/disk/by-uuid/4b888...
[12:38] <MOUD> how do I install .deb files?
[12:38] <daredevilthere> mylisto: wht u mean by deeveedee
[12:38] <mylisto> deeveedee is a program to convert video files to a dvd ready .iso file
[12:39] <tiyowan> MOUD: Just click on them.
[12:39] <SmokeyD1> while leaving out the -name proc -prune shows many files, also outside /proc
[12:39] <takamarou> adam7, it does exist though, so i just use exec to run it, and I boot into non-graphical mode.
[12:39] <adam7> takamarou: right. how did you find the file that doesn't exist if it doesn't exist?
[12:39] <mylisto> but I have two avi's...not sure if they will play seamlessly
[12:39] <MOUD> tiyowan: ok then, thanks
[12:39] <daredevilthere> MOUD: in terminal type sudo dpkg -i file_name
[12:39] <corden> downloading jack
[12:39] <takamarou> adam7, apparently the error is wrong.  It is there.
[12:39] <b14ck> hi all, my friend just installed kubuntu, booted it up. he has a 8800gts. after the loading screen his monitor goes black
[12:39] <b14ck> any dieas?
[12:39] <b14ck> *ideas
[12:39] <daredevilthere> mylisto: they wont b played in dvd player as dvd video have a specific format
[12:39] <MOUD> daredevilthere: thank you too
[12:39] <subone> can someone repaste me the link Comet pasted me before i restarted X?
[12:39] <adam7> takamarou: ok, but how did you execute it? running exec at the bash prompt or the grub prompt?
[12:40] <mylisto> daredevilthere: I've used this program before
[12:40] <takamarou> adam7, bash prompt
[12:40] <mylisto> it will work...
[12:40] <mylisto> I've gotten it to work...
[12:40] <mylisto> it makes an iso that can be burned to a dvd
[12:40] <adam7> takamarou: so you ran exec /dev/disk/by-uuid/something ?
[12:41] <takamarou> adam7, yeah.  It says it can't resume the boot image so it starts over, and then boots normally except for the X server doesn't work.
[12:41] <daredevilthere> mylisto: alrite but do shceck that i makes a dvd video in iso
[12:41] <mylisto> scheck?
[12:41] <adam7> takamarou: ok, I don't know what's going on there. You shouldn't be able to run exec /dev/disk/by-uuid/something because that is a raw disk device and you can't run it
[12:42] <daredevilthere> mylisto: wait let me check
[12:43] <takamarou> adam7, interesting.  any hints on where I might find the answer, or should I just use integrated video card again?
[12:43] <adam7> takamarou: try asking the channel again, someone else might know
[12:44] <philo> what IDE do you use ? eclipse or Netbeans
[12:44] <ross`> ross@evo:~/deliantra$ lspci|grep TNT
[12:44] <ross`> 05:04.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[12:44] <adam7> just because I don't certainly doesn't mean you can't
[12:44] <ross`> does ubuntu have a driver for that
[12:44] <philo> ross: driver for what?
[12:45] <takamarou> Hi all, I just installed a new video card and am getting the error Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/488db... does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!    anyone heard of this before?
[12:45] <tiyowan> ross`: I *think* the legacy nvidia drivers cover that. That's an old card.
[12:45] <ross`> philo: the hardware  i pasted
[12:45] <Bookmark> hi all
[12:46] <philo> maybe uninstall the old driver of the card
[12:46] <Bookmark> i am having a little trouble, hope i can get some help here
[12:46] <Bookmark> i am getting a syntax error near unexpected token ‘|’
[12:46] <soreau> Bookmark: From what command?
[12:47] <takamarou> adam7, thanks for all your help.  I'll try back later in the day.
[12:47] <Bookmark> this -> bzcat <path to VMware-VMvisor file> | dd of=/dev/disk1
[12:47] <adam7> takamarou: ok, sorry we didn't get it
[12:47] <omucuvaca> hello...is there any way i can run x86 software on my 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:48] <adam7> Bookmark: did you literally type bzcat <path to vmware file> at the command prompt, or did you replace <path to vmware file> with the actual path ot the file
[12:48] <adam7> omucuvaca: yes
[12:48] <adam7> !64bit
[12:48] <subone> Comet doesn't appear to be around anymore, can anyone else tell me how to change the resolution of my tv output from svideo?
[12:48] <BlueEagle> omucuvaca: I may be mistaking here, but aren't both the 32- and 64-bit platforms x86-systems?
[12:48] <Bookmark> adam7: literally the same
[12:49] <Bookmark> is that wrong?
[12:49] <MOUD> downloaded the i386 version :S, downloading it again :(
[12:49] <adam7> Bookmark: you need to replace <path to vmware file> with the actual path
[12:49] <omucuvaca> sorry... i have a 32-bit app that needs to run on an amd64 machine
[12:49] <adam7> omucuvaca: somehting like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 is what you need
[12:49] <adam7> that's a little old though
[12:50] <smelian> hello please how can i get my old Xorg file cuz i dont know what happend and my resulotion disappear
[12:50] <adam7> smelian: did you back it up?
[12:50] <daredevilthere> mylisto: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936
[12:50] <adam7> !xorg | smelian
[12:50] <smelian> no
[12:50] <Bookmark> adam7: oh.. thats where it went wrong.. let me try, thanks for now
[12:50] <ortsvorsteher> smelian: look at /etc/X11 directory, may there is a backup
[12:50] <adam7> smelian: you should in the future, but there is a command that lets you get it back
[12:50] <jinja-sheep> !chroot | omucuvaca
[12:50] <smelian> i didnt touch it all i did was restart
[12:50] <jinja-sheep> This will help too.
[12:51] <smelian> and everything gone
[12:51] <adam7> jinja-sheep: that's it, thank you :)
[12:51] <jinja-sheep> adam7: No problem.  You're right on that one. ;)
[12:51] <omucuvaca> thanx...i will try it this way
[12:51] <adam7> smelian: 8.10 doesn't need an xorg.conf, btw
[12:51] <adam7> jinja-sheep: I didn't know there was a factoid for it
[12:52] <jinja-sheep> adam7:  Use /msg ubottu !search <xyz>
[12:52] <jinja-sheep> It'll list the possible commands for you.
[12:52] <adam7> jinja-sheep: ok
[12:52] <jinja-sheep> Based on your search. :)
[12:52] <tiyowan> jinja-sheep: That is good to know. Thx.
[12:52] <smelian> adam7 : but my resulotion gone i had 1280x1024 now i dont i went to nvidia prog he dont detect the true monitor ( i just use 1 monitor ) it was 19 inch acer now he gave me diffrent name
[12:53] <adam7> !xorg | smelian
[12:53] <adam7> smelian: read the last link there
[12:53] <smelian> ok
[12:54] <daredevilthere> How do i make my ubuntu start in terminal
[12:54] <smelian> adam7: mine look diffrent
[12:54] <jrib> daredevilthere: permanently?
[12:54] <adam7> smelian: your what look different?
[12:54] <smelian> adam7: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102710/
[12:54] <daredevilthere> jrib: both i want to knw both
[12:55] <smelian> adam7: and this is the second http://paste.ubuntu.com/102711/
[12:55] <jrib> daredevilthere: system -> administration -> login window, disable graphical login.  Turn it back on when you want to use grapihcal login again.  Also see 'man update-rc.d'
[12:55] <adam7> smelian: how do you have 2?
[12:55] <smelian> i dont know :S
[12:56] <adam7> they can't both be in /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[12:56] <smelian> one is Xorg.conf other one is Xorg48044.conf
[12:56] <k1dugar> does ubuntu support open-rc
[12:56] <ross`> WTF
[12:56] <adam7> or /etc/X11/xorg.conf, rather
[12:56] <Gnea> adam7: he's obviously running 2 different servers :)
[12:56] <daredevilthere> jrib:  thanks do u how to do that in terminal. do i have to change a runlevel
[12:56] <jrib> daredevilthere: runlevels 2-5 are identical on debian/ubuntu.  See the "also see" part of what I said
[12:56] <smelian> btw both of them are wrong
[12:57] <adam7> Gnea: he's doing something ;)
[12:57] <Bookmark> adam7: how do i write the path?
[12:57] <Gnea> adam7: or using one as a backup/testbed
[12:57] <Bookmark> if the file is on my desktop
[12:57] <adam7> Gnea: maybe, I think though that the nvidia thing made a backup before it murdered the original one
[12:57] <smelian> adam7:  maybe cuz i used nvidia prog and use save change :S so it deleted everything
[12:57] <ubuntu> canales
[12:57] <adam7> Bookmark: ~/Desktop/filename where filename is the name of the file
[12:57] <daredevilthere> jrib: u mean with update-rc.d i remove service of gdm ?
[12:57] <ubuntu> !spain
[12:57] <adam7> smelian: I think though that the nvidia thing made a backup before it murdered the original one
[12:58] <adam7> !es
[12:58] <jrib> daredevilthere: no, I mean you read 'man update-rc.d'.  There it will suggest proper programs for modifying what gets executed in what runlevels
[12:58] <ubuntu> thanks
[12:58] <smelian> adam7: so what i should do now ? to get my orginal xorg and to let nvidia prog detect the monitor
[12:59] <adam7> smelian: dpkg --reconfigure xorg I think
[12:59] <smelian> this the 2nd time happend to me 1st time i formated i dont want to format again :S
[12:59] <adam7> smelian: oops, that's not the right commmand
[13:00] <adam7> !xconfig | smelian
[13:00] <adam7> ah, I was close
[13:00] <aksci> is there any way to downgrade a plugin in firefox????... i accidently upgraded fast dial which is darn too slow and pathetic!!!
[13:00] <Bookmark> i am getting a 'resource busy"
[13:00] <Bookmark> how can i fix un-busy it? lol
[13:01] <smelian> adam7:  the new Xorg still have the same thing i show u
[13:01] <adam7> smelian: well, then that is the default xorg
[13:01] <adam7> .conf
[13:01] <smelian> no its not
[13:01] <smelian> its empty
[13:01] <adam7> because 8.10 doesn't need xorg.conf
[13:02] <gogereaver> adam7 what?
[13:02] <smelian> adam7: then how to fix nvidia driver
[13:02] <adam7> gogereaver: ?
[13:03] <smelian> brb
[13:03] <gogereaver> adam7 the corg conf thats crazy
[13:03] <gogereaver> no
[13:03] <adam7> gogereaver: 8.10 will run fine even if you rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:03] <adam7> s/will/should/
[13:03] <gogereaver> adam7 wtf
[13:04] <MOUD> Does anyone know how to make the NVidia SLI to work? I didn't find any option to change how much RAM it should get on the "Nvidia X server settings"
[13:04] <StuartD> Hi! I am looking for a good alternative or great configuration for NFS, something that doesn't hang if a server goes down and a client can easily exit from
[13:04] <adam7> gogereaver: it's the new xorg :/
[13:05] <gogereaver> adam7 what does it auto regn the file
[13:05] <aksci> is there any way to downgrade a plugin in firefox????... i accidently upgraded fast dial which is just too slow!
[13:05] <adam7> gogereaver: no
[13:05] <adam7> gogereaver: it just doesn't need one
[13:05] <Pici> gogereaver: Xorg no longer requires that stuff be explicitly put into xorg.conf.  It now works with HAL to find the proper defaults for one's hardware.  It can still be modified if needed though, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X
[13:05] <gogereaver>  it has 7
[13:05] <adam7> Pici: thanks :)
[13:05] <gogereaver> adam7 oh
[13:05] <Pici> adam7: surely
[13:05] <vjacob> how do I lock my screen in X11/GNOME without waiting for the screensaver?
[13:05] <dt84> hi. I have a very serious problem: I don't have English in my Ubuntu. Currently I'm using XP
[13:05] <Tarris> StuartD:  sounds like you just want a soft mount for NFS
[13:05] <adam7> vjacob: press ctrl+alt+L
[13:05] <dt84> I had both English & Hebrew, but now I can't even login to my Ubuntu user because the username is in English.
[13:06] <gogereaver> adam7 is it still relys on it but if not found it will just auto probe everything
[13:06] <dt84> Tried using the textual interface - no English there too. I suspect it's related to the fact that I clicked the "Apply System-Wide" button in Keyboard - Layout
[13:06] <Gnea> vjacob: System->Lock Screen
[13:06] <vjacob> thanks adam7!
[13:06] <gogereaver> adam7 makes sence
[13:06] <adam7> gogereaver: yeah, if you put it there, it will override, but it doesn't need it
[13:06] <vjacob> gnea: I don't have that menu item!
[13:06] <vjacob> thanks though
[13:06] <Gnea> vjacob: might be under the system-shutdown menu then. 8.04?
[13:07] <vjacob> 8.10
[13:07] <vjacob> nope, it's not
[13:07] <StuartD> Tarris: I have done softmount but it never actually terminates, hangs until I click ctrl+c
[13:07] <adam7> it's under that nifty little thing that has your username on it in 8.10 as well
[13:07] <SmokeyD1> hey people. Is there any reason why /var/lib/php5 should be world writable
[13:07] <Gnea> it's there for me..
[13:07] <StuartD> Tarris: But I have a PHP script running that connects to the mount and that just hands forever
[13:07] <gogereaver> adam7 thats kinda a bad thing auto desent always work
[13:07] <adam7> my 8.10 has lock screen under System as well
[13:07] <adam7> gogereaver: neither does xorg.conf IME
[13:07] <Tarris> StuartD:  do you have intr specified in your mount as well?
[13:07] <Appl3`> is there a program like VMWare Fuzion that you can use on linux, to run a virtual console of XP or Vista?
[13:08] <StuartD> Tarris, i have included intr yes.. which seems to do all the work, do you apply a value to intr? like intr=1
[13:08] <jrib> !virtualizer | Appl3`
[13:09] <Gnea> well, the lastest 8.10 kernel didn't mess things up.
[13:09] <Gnea> but i'm still not getting sound out of battle for wesnoth
[13:09] <zer0> i run pcmanfm on fluxbox then get this error..how can i fix this error???=http://paste.ubuntu.com/102716/
[13:10] <Tarris> StuartD:  no that is just set in your /etc/fstab  e.g.   server:/mount/dir   /nfs/mount       nfs     rw,soft,intr 0 0
[13:10] <Appl3`> well see I've got Wine installed, and I was basically going to use it to play Team Fortress 2 on
[13:10] <Appl3`> but i was just having trouble trying to make it all work
[13:11] <StuartD> Tarris: I see what you mean, its just if I access a mount which servers gone down, it will hang until I press ctrl+c, which is no good for my PHP scripts as i dont have such controls
[13:11] <gogereaver> Appl3 well vmware doesent do games
[13:11] <StuartD> Tarris: So the page just hangs
[13:11] <StuartD> Tarris: Do you know of a good alternative at all?
[13:11] <gogereaver> Appl3 cedega is a gamingversion of wine
[13:11] <Appl3`> o really
[13:11] <Appl3`> but i thought u had to pay for that
[13:12] <gogereaver> Appl3 yep
[13:12] <adam7> Appl3`: if you want to play Windows games, it's easiest just dual boot Windows with Ubuntu
[13:12] <gogereaver> Appl3 but you can compile it fron source for free
[13:12] <Tarris> StuartD:  not much of a php guy, sorry
[13:12] <Appl3`> i'll look into cedega more
[13:13] <ikonia> Appl3`: games meant for a platform normally run best on that platform
[13:13] <StuartD> Tarris: Just in terms of file sharing really.. but hey thanks for your help :)
[13:13] <Tarris> np
[13:13] <Appl3`> well people have said that TF2 runs just fine on linux
[13:13] <gogereaver> ikonia duno cedega can run quite a few games well
[13:13] <gogereaver> ikonia look at eve linux
[13:13] <Appl3`> but I'll look into it
[13:13] <ikonia> gogereaver: running quite well is not running on native platform,.
[13:13] <Appl3`> thanks for the help
[13:13] <gogereaver> ikonia it uses it won version of cedega
[13:13] <ikonia> gogereaver: running a game on the native platform will always be the best option
[13:14] <gogereaver> ikonia eve linux aculy runs better then eve windows
[13:14] <ikonia> eve ?
[13:14] <gogereaver> ikonia eve online uses ther own version of cedega
[13:14] <Appl3`> eve is some online game
[13:15] <mohwaqas12> daredevilthere: hey
[13:15] <gogereaver> http://www.eve-online.com/
[13:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Yeah eve comes with its own cedega client
[13:15] <adam7> gogereaver: but that was developed specifically for using cedega, so it makes sense that it would run well
[13:15] <ikonia> I've never used it, but I will still stand by the fact that a native windows game will always run better on it's platform
[13:15] <adam7> it's like how picasa uses Wine
[13:15] <Appl3`> i just like running ubuntu on my netbook, cause Vista goes a bit slow
[13:15] <Paddy_EIRE> adam7, picasa has improved very much
[13:15] <Paddy_EIRE> adam7, Pitty it uses winelib
[13:16] <gogereaver> ikonia it just depends on the game on some bechmark games run better other worse
[13:16] <adam7> Paddy_EIRE: I'm not saying it's bad; I haven't used it on Linux
[13:16] <abbas> سيبسيب
[13:16] <abbas> هلا
[13:16] <abbas> عربي في
[13:16] <FloodBot3> abbas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <gogereaver> ikonia mostly due to linux having less overhead then lets say vista
[13:16] <ikonia> gogereaver: I would doubt very much that any native windows platform game will run better through an abstraction layer on an different OS than it would on the correct native OS
[13:16] <Paddy_EIRE> adam7, its identical.. and it looks better than most win apps would do otherwise
[13:16] <Appl3`> ya I don't even play many PC games, so to make it work for 1 game is fine with me
[13:17] <adam7> Paddy_EIRE: cool -- and I think Google contributed to Wine too IIRC?
[13:17] <Paddy_EIRE> adam7, lots of people seem to contribute to wine lately
[13:17] <gogereaver> Paddy_EIRE its all that vista hate
[13:17] <gogereaver> lol
[13:18] <kitty_> need assistance with ati drivers and radeon hd 3850, the flgrx doesn't recognize it
[13:18] <Appl3`> I've got Vista Ultimate on my desktop, and i haven't had problems with it
[13:19] <gogereaver> Appl3 other then the fact thats its a resouce hog thats like straping bricks to your pc
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !wfm > Appl3`
[13:20] <gogereaver> Appl3 windows 7 the beta so far is faster then vista
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> gogereaver, How is that related to ubuntu support
[13:20] <gogereaver> Appl3 thats sad a newer version uses less resorces
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> This is ubuntu support.. do you have a support question
[13:20] <wereHamster> how can I find out the version of the package that contains the currently installed /usr/bin/dot executable?
[13:20] <Appl3`> gogereaver, I actually had Windows 7 running on my laptop a few days ago
[13:21] <Appl3`> just got rid of it, and put ubuntu on
[13:21] <ikonia> gents, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:21] <gogereaver> :)
[13:21] <adam7> gogereaver: newer versions of Ubuntu have used less resources then older versions. It's improvement :)
[13:21] <Appl3`> and ya W7 is going quite well
[13:21] <fosco_> !puregnome
[13:21] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Appl3`, We are talking to you
[13:21] <Appl3`> alright
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[13:22] <wereHamster> say I want to make a bug report, I need to know the version of the package, what's the command for taht?
[13:23] <ikonia> wereHamster: dpkg -l | grep package_name
[13:23] <ikonia> wereHamster: or look it up in synaptic
[13:23] <wereHamster> thanks
[13:23] <wereHamster> console-only
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> wereHamster, Hi Sorry still waking up, but you can get the version number of an installed package.. sorryy look up
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ikonia
[13:24] <wereHamster> hm, the ubuntu package of graphviz is quite old
[13:24] <wereHamster> 2.16 while my gentoo box has 2.20
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> wereHamster, None in the repos will be  the current release
[13:24] <adam7> wereHamster: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:24] <gogereaver> wereHamster does it work
[13:24] <adam7> plus Gentoo is rolling release
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !info graphviz
[13:25] <wereHamster> Ubuntu 8.04.1
[13:25] <gogereaver> wereHamster well there you have it
[13:25] <gogereaver> wereHamster ubuntu doesent upgrade version numbers only for patches
[13:26] <wereHamster> it's a server, and there's a bug in the graphviz version I have installed. What are my choices now?
[13:26] <kitty_> should i just download the drivers from the amd/ati website or should i try fixing the ones that the restricted drivers menu is trying to install ?
[13:26] <gogereaver> wereHamster only new distros have newer packages
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> wereHamster, However spinoffs of ubuntu however  do..
[13:26] <bsod_> здраствуйте
[13:26] <adam7> kitty_: fix the restricted ones
[13:26] <wereHamster> I wouldn't want to dist-upgrade, as 8.04 is LTS
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> wereHamster, You can compile your own
[13:27] <ikonia> wereHamster: if you log a bug - it should get fixed
[13:27] <adam7> wereHamster: depending on how good you are at packaging you could make your own
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !ru > bsod_
[13:27] <gogereaver> wereHamster or find the newer version deb
[13:27] <ikonia> wereHamster: it's really that simple, log the bug, talk to the developers/maintainers, work with them
[13:27] <wereHamster> I've never create deb packages before
[13:27] <ikonia> wereHamster: I would advise against installing a 3rd party package, more so if the whole reason of staying on 8.04 is for LTS support
[13:28] <ikonia> wereHamster: you don't need to build your own, log the bug and work with the maintainer
[13:29] <Reave> the nivida driver hosed my x - any way I can remove that from the command promopt?
[13:29] <gogereaver> ikonia whats wrong with 8.10
[13:29] <zer0> how can i remove un needed file??work like disk cleaner??
[13:29] <Reave> cuz the gui won't stat
[13:29] <ikonia> gogereaver: nothing, he said he wanted to stay on 8.04 though
[13:29] <ikonia> zer0: just remove it
[13:29] <zer0> what application can be used??
[13:29] <ikonia> zer0: the file manager
[13:29] <ikonia> zer0: just remove it
[13:30] <gogereaver> Reave apt-get remove
[13:30] <perfects> please somebody help me
[13:30] <ikonia> gogereaver: a file ?
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[13:30] <ikonia> gogereaver: apt-get remove a file ?
[13:30] <gogereaver> the package
[13:30] <zer0> remove file manager??
[13:30] <ikonia> zer0: ignore that
[13:30] <perfects> my cd drive is not working
[13:30] <ikonia> gogereaver: he asked how to remove a file
[13:30] <perfects> and i am using extrenal dvd writer
[13:30] <zer0> un needed file
[13:30] <gogereaver> Reave: the nivida driver hosed my x - any way I can remove that from the command promopt?
[13:30] <ikonia> zer0: just remove it with the file system
[13:30] <perfects> i would like to use live cd
[13:30] <gogereaver> that would be a package
[13:31] <zer0> if windows=ccleaner...ubuntu=??
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Reave, something along the line of sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177  or whatever was used
[13:31] <ikonia> zer0: use the file manager
[13:31] <ikonia> gogereaver: I thought you where talking to zer0
[13:31] <perfects> i have rtried to boot system from dvd writer
[13:31] <gogereaver> Reave for a file use rm
[13:31] <perfects> but no luck
[13:31] <wereHamster> 8.10 isn't LTS anymore, or is it?
[13:31] <ikonia> gogereaver: best stick the name infront of the person your talking to, makes it easy
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gogereaver, no
[13:31] <ikonia> wereHamster: it's never been ltfs
[13:31] <ikonia> lts
[13:31] <perfects> how do i use the live cd
[13:31] <adam7> wereHamster: it wasn't ever
[13:31] <adam7> perfects: put it in the CD drive and reboot the computer
[13:31] <gogereaver> ikonia err i did
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> !lnw | zer0
[13:32] <Jack_Sparrow> perfects, put it in the drive and power up, make sure cdrom is set to first boot device
[13:32] <kitty_> is it normal for aticonfig to report "No protocol specified" but still modify the xconfig ?
[13:32] <Reave> apt-get worked - hopefully I get x back
[13:32] <ikonia> gogereaver: my apologies, it didn't show up for me for some reason ?
[13:32] <perfects> but in my system bios it is not sjowing option of dvd writer
[13:33] <Reave> could the fact there are two cards connected by a SLI cable be the reason that its breaking?
[13:33] <ikonia> Reave: the nvidia driver doesn't support sli
[13:33] <zamba> is it possible to point the Documents folder to a network location (over samba)
[13:33] <wereHamster> I mean anymore as in 8.04 is and 8.10 isn't :)
[13:33] <perfects> i am using a dvd writer connected through usb
[13:33] <ikonia> Reave: (some cards it does say it supports - but its poor support)
[13:33] <ikonia> wereHamster: thats right, 8.04 is, 8.10 isn't
[13:33] <Jack_Sparrow> perfects, then select usb as boot device
[13:34] <perfects> ok
[13:34] <gogereaver>  Jack_Sparrow i had issues with using usb and gub
[13:34] <Reave> I thought the cards wouldn't try to use sli unless they were explictly told to - so mearly having them cabled up for it can cause issues?
[13:34] <perfects> is it will be an issue : i am also accesing internet through usb cable
[13:34] <wereHamster> if I only new which executable or library to update, I'd just copy that from my gentoo system. But graphviz contains quite a few libraries etc and I don't want to scraw that up
[13:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gogereaver, agreed, but he wont know until he tries it
[13:34] <ikonia> Reave: yes
[13:34] <ikonia> Reave: it see's it as one card
[13:34] <Reave> good to know
[13:35] <gogereaver>  Jack_Sparrow trick is to use wingrub to start the usb drive
[13:35] <varun> hi guys
[13:35] <gogereaver>  Jack_Sparrow some reasion on the mbr it brakes
[13:35] <Reave> shame I can't just disable on in the bios I hate opening up my case :)
[13:35] <Reave> one*
[13:35] <varun> keybard hekp
[13:35] <varun> keybard help
[13:35] <ikonia> varun: ask a question then
[13:36] <zer0> i click at ur link then it open screem..how can i set it open with firefox??
[13:36] <varun> laer
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> zer0, you can also use google to search for terms like 'ubuntu maintenance" or "ubuntu clean" etc.. you get the idea
[13:36] <gogereaver> zer0 it should aruldy try opwn new broswer
[13:36] <gogereaver> open
[13:37] <Bookmark> adam7 still here?
[13:37] <adam7> Bookmark: yep
[13:37] <Bookmark> i got it working mate, thank you
[13:37] <Bookmark> you are a genius
[13:37] <adam7> probably not, but ok :D
[13:37] <sh1> i want to make an iso image using mkisofs. i see that there are too many params.
[13:38] <Reave> looks like I'm back in shape - tyvm for the info
[13:38] <sh1> can anyone tell me howto create an iso that works on all systems
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> sh1, why not just dd it
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow> sh1 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/$USER/Desktop/file.iso bs=2k
[13:39] <twager>  /join #ubuntu-uk
[13:39] <sh1> i want to use iso command. probably it does some compression
[13:39] <gogereaver> sh1 could always use raw lol
[13:39] <jinja-sheep> I can't live without desktop icons.  Everything that goes to the desktop will not appear on the desktop, but rather... on nautilus.  Any idea why this is happening? :\
[13:40] <sh1> i dont have too much space. i want to create backup on my disk
[13:40] <adam7> sh1: isos are not compressed
[13:40] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep yo try restarting x it can be falky with that
[13:40] <sh1> oh really
[13:40] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep normaly they apper after restart
[13:40] <adam7> sh1: you can run it through a compression program though
[13:40] <Pici> !backup > sh1
[13:40] <adam7> I think isos are just a bit for bit copy of the disk
[13:40] <jinja-sheep> gogereaver:  Reboot? I have reboot the machine few times already.
[13:40] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep so no luck
[13:41] <gogereaver> humm
[13:41] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep heh
[13:41] <jinja-sheep> gogereaver:  That's right.  I scorched the Google website.  It's not in gconf-editor.  I have some mounted devices -- They don't show up either. :<
[13:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, Which release of ubuntu and what were you installing or changing before this started
[13:42] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep just put them on home/desktop from nutlus should do it
[13:42] <Reave> will it be enough to just pull the sli cable out or do I have to completely remove the second card to get ubuntu to behave with a nividia driver?
[13:42] <gogereaver> oh
[13:42] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep sounds like some strange bug
[13:42] <jinja-sheep> Jack_Sparrow:  Intrepid64.  I was dd-ing something for DVD media.  Nothing related to Desktop, of course.
[13:42] <gogereaver> jinja-sheephave you tryed turning off desktop effects
[13:43] <webaska> how to format hdd partitions like ex3 to ntfs?
[13:43] <FireFox||> How do I play a blueray disc in bubuntu?
[13:43] <gogereaver> jinja-sheep your setup might be reving 3d rendering issues
[13:43] <gogereaver> having
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> webaska, gparted partition editor
[13:43] <jinja-sheep> gogereaver:  I doubt this will work but I'll... okay.
[13:44] <webaska> how to get gparted in a pc where is no internet
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, as last resort you can reset gnome
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> webaska, do you have livecd of ubuntu
[13:44] <israhes> o/ everyone
[13:44] <gogereaver> Jack_Sparrow heh first thing i said
[13:44] <gogereaver> Jack_Sparrow said it didnt work
[13:44] <webaska> i have kubuntu but there was no gparted there :|
[13:44] <jinja-sheep> Desktop -- No effects now. :\  What's the way to reset gnome?
[13:44] <israhes> I need some cool player for ubuntu 8.10. any idea=
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> gogereaver, what are you talking about
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gogereaver, I did NOT say reset his machine, I said we could reset all of gnome
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, one sec
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, To Reset All of Gnome: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/       In terminal type:         rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[13:46] <Grab> Jack_Sparrow can you help me above?
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Grab, What was the question again please
[13:47] <Grab> hello, how can i boot a distro from usb, knowing that bios doesnt support usb boot ?
[13:47] <Santolina> do you know if there could be problems accessing NTFS partitions from both Ubuntu and WinXP on a big RAID system? (4 x 1 TB, RAID 5, effective size 2.7 TB aprox.)
[13:47] <gogereaver> Grab use a boot loader
[13:47] <Grab> gogereaver i have grub installed..now what?
[13:47] <pablop> what does the second row means when using 'free -m'
[13:47] <gogereaver> doesent super grub support that
[13:48] <Grab> gogereaver what should i do ?
[13:48] <ikonia> Santolina: what is the raid controller ? a motherboard raid system or 3rd party card ?
[13:48] <gogereaver> Grab did you install the distro on usb aruldy
[13:48] <jinja-sheep> What's the way to restart everything without logging out and sign in?  kill gnome?
[13:48] <Grab> gogereaver nope
[13:49] <gogereaver> Grab well geub should boot it with ot without bios suport
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, ctrl-alt f2
[13:49] <gogereaver> grub
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, ctrl-alt f7 to get back
[13:49] <Grab> gogereaver will it list automatally the distro on ub?
[13:49] <Grab> usv
[13:49] <gogereaver> Grab as long as you but the boot loader on your interner hd
[13:49] <Grab> *usb
[13:49] <jinja-sheep> Jack_Sparrow:  Back.  Nothing. <_<
[13:49] <Grab> brub is on hdd
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, but you may still need a restart to reset gnome
[13:50] <jinja-sheep> Jack_Sparrow:  Sure.  I'll give it a shoot in a bit.
[13:50] <gogereaver> Grab the super grub live cd can be of help of something does go wrong
[13:50] <pablop> can you please explain the second row when using 'free -m" ?
[13:50] <gogereaver> Grab be a good idea to have that
[13:50] <Santolina> ikonia: I still have not received the machine, but the seller said it is this one http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sata/value/SAS-3405
[13:51] <ikonia> Santolina: don't see a problem with that, just be sure it is that card, as that card is not a normal bit of kit to be in home machines
[13:51] <celdridge> Can anyone help me with SFTP:: I am mounting a SFTP share from my NAS server using my id on the NAS box, with this ID i can ssh into the box and i have 750 permissions, however when i mount the location in gnome, I am unable to delete files.
[13:52] <gogereaver> Grab are you trying to install from usb or to usb
[13:52] <ikonia> Santolina: one reasons I doubt it's that card is that looks like a SAS controller and SAS disks are 300GB max and they are $500 for a 300GB disk
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Santolina, Many of those "Raid" cards require special windows drivers and if they do, they are not true hardware raid
[13:52] <ikonia> Santolina: unless that card support sata too
[13:52] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: that one is fine - it's native
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[13:53] <sh2> i just now locked my PC. after comming back. i tried to unlock. when i click on any keys/mouse i can only see mouse pointer
[13:53] <alistair> hi all... having a networking problem... I'm sharing ppp0 (vodafone 3g connection) over eth0 (connected to a wireless router) by running the firestarter dhcpd and disabling dhcp on the router. Every time a program uses DNS to lookup a hostname, it takes like 10-15 seconds because it has to time out using eth0 and then try ppp0. I want to set the priority so that ppp0 is used by default without checking ppp0. How can I do this?
[13:53] <sh2> when i did Ctrnl+F1. i see that kinit:no resume image found
[13:53] <sh2> i could see only a black screen.
[13:53] <sh2> what could be problem
[13:54] <Pici> sh2: try f2 instead
[13:54] <Santolina> ikonia ... the problem is the seller says they are being able of accessing the RAID from both Ubuntu and WinXP ... but he says he is not being able to configure them to share the same NTFS partitions (when made from Windows, Linux sees different size ... and viceversa)
[13:54] <ikonia> alistair: change the name servers to use name servers on the wirless router
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> sh2, Please keep questions responses on one line. It makes it easier to read
[13:54] <sh2> i tried F1 to F7 and it didnt work
[13:54] <RonPaul> does anyone know how to setup a static ip address in ubuntu (8.10)
[13:54] <Dvyjones> How do I install Ubuntu on a USB HDD? It's Ext3 formatted, and I want to be able to boot from it (on machines able to boot from USB HDDs). "Create USB dtartup disk" doesn't work as it doesn't list the drive...
[13:54] <jinja-sheep> Lol.  That does *not* work at all.  This is really weird bug.  I was dd-ing an iso for DVD media then next thing I notice... it disappeared.
[13:54] <RonPaul> I'm trying to set up port fowarding
[13:54] <ikonia> Santolina: NTFS file system is not the best choice but it shouldn't be a problem, I don't think the linux ntfs driver has a file system size limit
[13:54] <gogereaver> RonPau yea uncheck dchp
[13:55] <alistair> ikonia: 1. how do i do that? 2. are you sure that's what i need because I want to use the 3g dns servers first
[13:55] <RonPaul> gogreaver: thats it
[13:55] <ikonia> alistair: if you want to use the 3g dns server, then it has to go out of ppp0 first to get dns resolution
[13:55] <gogereaver> RonPau unless the gui changed sence i used it the box below will become visable for you to input the info
[13:55] <alistair> ikonia: ok cool. so where do i change that setting?
[13:56] <ikonia> alistair: what do you mean change that setting
[13:56] <Dvyjones> Will ubuntu harm my files if I install it on an existing Ext3 partition?
[13:56] <Santolina> ikionia so what file system would you use? Remember it is for a huge RAID (2.7 TB)
[13:56] <ikonia> alistair: thats a limitation if your using ppp0 to do dns resolution, raffic has to go down ppp0 first for resoution
[13:56] <gogereaver> RonPau or slect manule
[13:56] <ikonia> Santolina: well if you want both windows and linux to acces it, ntfs is probably an acceptable choice,
[13:56] <jinja-sheep> Dvyjones:  I'm sure you heard this several times already... Always make a backup. :)
[13:57] <mattias_> Hi guys!
[13:57] <RonPaul> ok then plug in the dns server, subnet mask, gateway?
[13:57] <mattias_> Anyone with experiens from X345 ????
[13:57] <crypto70> ciao
[13:57] <gogereaver> RonPau yep you set a satic befor
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Dvyjones, you can work with the installer but way better to shrink your existing ext3 and make a new one and use the installer to setup the old ext3 as your data drive
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:57] <alistair> ikonia: it's doing the opposite tho... every time i look up an address it checks eth0 first... i want it to check ppp0 first... i even changed the dns servers in the ipv4 settings of eth0 to the vodafone dns servers, but it still doesn't work :(
[13:57] <jinja-sheep> yo yo yo andrew.
[13:57] <Pici> !it | camilovo
[13:57] <gogereaver> RonPau same thing
[13:57] <Pici> camilovo: sorry.
[13:57] <RonPaul> never? doesnt seem hard
[13:57] <RonPaul> ok
[13:57] <ikonia> alistair: look at your routing table
[13:58] <gogereaver> RonPau be the same info off your other box or windows
[13:58] <alistair> ikonia: sorry man... where do i find that
[13:58] <ikonia> alistair: look at it with netstat -rn
[13:58] <RonPaul> ok thats what i thought TX
[13:58] <ikonia> alistair: look at what the default route is
[13:58] <jinja-sheep> Jack_Sparrow:  FYI -- I'm back.  I have a weird bug then/
[13:59] <alistair> ikonia: can i paste the results? if so would u prefer in the channel or in a pm?
[13:59] <ikonia> alistair: use a pastebin
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[13:59] <alluk> how to reinstall a package with apt-get ?
[13:59] <alistair> ikonia: thanks ;) brb
[13:59] <gogereaver> RonPau must be one old isp to still use static
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, not so uch of a bug as something you did .. Did you install some tool to rip tha dvd?
[14:00] <alistair> alluk: sudo apt-get uninstall/remove [package] && sudo apt-get install [package]
[14:00] <alistair> someone correct me if i'm wrong
[14:00] <jinja-sheep> Jack_Sparrow:  Sure, some packages.  But that shouldn't conflict with the nautilus... or gnome?  genosismakeiso -- something like that.
[14:00] <jinja-sheep> Was following up on a tutorial.
[14:01] <gogereaver> alistair or apt-get reinstall
[14:01] <gogereaver> lol
[14:01] <alistair> gogereaver: thanks... i learn new things every day :P
[14:01] <Santolina> ikonia so there should not be problems sharing partitions on a 4 x 1 TB RAID5 ?  The seller is driving me mad, he says he is able to do it on the single C: disk (no problem for Ubuntu to see the WinXP NTFS partition properly) ... but the problem rises when making NTFS partitions on the RAID ... then they are only seen properly by the OS they were made from !!
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jinja-sheep, right, like I said earlier and you said you were just ripping a dvd.. So you did install things form outside the repos based on some tutorial on the web, so
[14:01] <ikonia> Santolina: it depends how he made it
[14:01] <gogereaver> alistair heh just a shorter command
[14:02] <ikonia> Santolina: if he used a windows software/fake raid setup, then yes, that will be a problem
[14:02] <ikonia> Santolina: if he used the card as a native card, then I think it would be fine
[14:02] <alistair> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102743/
[14:02] <ikonia> alistair: the default route for anything on the 192 network is eth0, what ip are you on ?
[14:03] <gogereaver> alistair of course if its a broken package you might wanna use purge to removed the configs to
[14:03] <alistair> gogereaver: ahh
[14:03] <alistair> ikonia: i'm on 192.168.0.1
[14:03] <Santolina> ikonia my immediate answer to this seller was "that RAID is not well mounted so" ... but actually he is being able to see the full RAID disk and partition it from both OSs ... the problem (he says) is that the other OS is seeing those partitions as having a different (wrong) size
[14:03] <ikonia> ok, so 192 has to go out of eth0 according to that route
[14:03] <jinja-sheep> Jack_Sparrow:  I was making an ISO from files on my hard drives -- Using the said command -- mkisofs -o /Desktop/xyzdvd.iso ~/Desktop/xyzdvd/
[14:03] <mas2> can someone recomand an easy ftpd application with an GUI. Should be able to use an external usb hardrive though.
[14:04] <ikonia> Santolina: so he says it can't see all the free space ?
[14:04] <alistair> ikonia: so how do i fix it... sorry i've always been slow with networking
[14:04] <jinja-sheep> mas2:  Filezilla?  Nice and reliable SFTP I use.
[14:04] <sh2> jinja-sheep: i guess you need to use a little more options to mkisofs
[14:04] <mas2> jinja-sheep: is that not an ftp client? I want an ftp server.
[14:04] <Pici> !ftpd | mas2 any of these with graphical front ends
[14:04] <ikonia> alistair: I'm not %100 sure what your saying the problem is, as that routing table looks fine
[14:04] <jinja-sheep> !info openssh-server
[14:05] <ikonia> alistair: that is quite a common setup for sharing information
[14:05] <jinja-sheep> mas2:  Is that what you're looking for?
[14:05] <mas2> Pici: thanks
[14:05] <gogereaver> mas2 hwh where the hd is make no diffrence
[14:05] <mas2> jinja-sheep: ye ftpd not ftp app
[14:05] <gogereaver> heh
[14:05] <jinja-sheep> Oh GUI.
[14:05] <alistair> ikonia: ok... its weird tho if i look at my network, i can see packets going thru eth0 first, then being tried thru ppp0, while (for example) firefox will say looking up hostname.com...
[14:05] <jinja-sheep> sh2:  What more options?
[14:05] <ikonia> alistair: clients on a 192 network will go through eth0 first
[14:05] <mas2> jinja-sheep: but thanks anyway :)
[14:05] <ikonia> alistair: thats how routing works
[14:06] <ikonia> alistair: change the routing to 192 ppp0 if thats what you want,
[14:06] <Santolina> ikonia he says "when I make a partition from one OS, the other OS sees it as having half size"
[14:06] <jinja-sheep> mas2:  No problem. :)
[14:06] <alistair> ikonia: ok is that with the netstat command?
[14:06] <ikonia> Santolina: I can't see that mayself,
[14:06] <ikonia> alistair: no
[14:06] <ikonia> alistair: if you don't know what your doing, I advise you not to mess
[14:06] <ikonia> Santolina: doesn't sound correct to me
[14:07] <ruhaan_jslip> i am looking for a download manger similar to d4x
[14:07] <ruhaan_jslip> the only thing i require is ftp support and multi thread downlading
[14:07] <alistair> ikonia: im not scared of config files or anything it's just annoying to have to wait 10 secs for every hostname lookup... i've scoured google for an answer on this and found nothing
[14:08] <ikonia> alistair: are you on the machine that is doing the routing yes/no ?
[14:08] <alistair> ikonia: yeah
[14:08] <ikonia> alistair: ok, so either a.) take down eth0 as a card, b.) disable eth0 as a card
[14:08] <ikonia> alistair: what name servers are in /etc/resolv.conf
[14:09] <heron_slack>  a ai
[14:09] <alistair> ikonia: brb i'll check and pastebin
[14:10] <ruhaan_jslip> i am looking for a download manger similar to d4x
[14:10] <ruhaan_jslip>  the only thing i require is ftp support and multi thread downlading
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ruhaan_jslip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DownloadManager
[14:11] <ruhaan_jslip> thnx ActionParsnip
[14:11] <wereHamster> how can I repari a package (unpack and reinstall all files)?
[14:11] <Santolina> ikonia ... do you know if my seller's RAID partitioning problems could be anyhow related to this?: http://www.carltonbale.com/2007/05/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/
[14:11] <ikonia> Santolina: I doubt this very much
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ruhaan_jslip: http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/11/top-6-download-manager-for-ubuntu-edgy-eft
[14:12] <Gerlad> How does ubuntu differ from debian?
[14:12] <ikonia> Santolina: ask him if he's using 64bit versions of linux/windows
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ruhaan_jslip: d4x is available for linux
[14:12] <ikonia> Gerlad: different distros
[14:12] <ruhaan_jslip> ActionParsnip: i know
[14:12] <Santolina> 32 bits, he said
[14:12] <ruhaan_jslip> i do use it but i was lookin for laternatives to it
[14:12] <alistair> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102746/
[14:12] <Gerlad> ikonia, yeah, but ubuntu is based on debian, right?
[14:12] <ikonia> Gerlad: correct
[14:13] <Santolina> ikonia ... could that be the reason? which bit-versions should we use?
[14:13] <ikonia> alistair: so by that logic, any name server requirests should go out of ppp0 first
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Gerlad: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Gerlad: to the lay user, very little. under the hood theres a bit of difference
[14:13] <ikonia> Santolina: large file system access will be better with 64bit and as that note says windows 32bit does not support the GUID partition table
[14:13] <Gerlad> ActionParsnip, what difference is that?
[14:14] <alistair> ikonia: yeah i've tried everything to set it up that way... but to no avail... disabling eth0 works though but obviously disconnects any other clients from the net
[14:14] <tiyowan> There's something wrong in this regex: Content-Location:[alnum]+.html, I'm trying to parse the header URLs out of mht files, but grep doesn't show any results with this regex. Content-Location:[alnum]+ works fine, but it lists the non-essential resources as well such as image files etc. Any ideas?
[14:14] <Santolina> actually I don't need to have partitions bigger than 2 TB, but the RAID is 2.7 TB ... does that affect only partition sizes, or if the physical disk is bigger you have problems?
[14:14] <ikonia> alistair: what makes you think it's going out of eth0 ?
[14:14] <ikonia> Santolina: I have a 5TB arrary on my machine - no problem
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Gerlad: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22545/1141/
[14:15] <ikonia> Santolina: with the right hardware linux can deal with petabytes
[14:15] <aircorian> hellow
[14:15] <Santolina> ikonia but do I need a "64 bit Linux" ? or anyone is valid¿?
[14:16] <aircorian> sorry for hopping in like this bhut euh iam not to bright about the intel and amd part's when it commes to 32 and 64bit
[14:16] <ikonia> Santolina: 32bit should deal with it, but you may get better performance out of 64bit for large file io
[14:16] <ikonia> alistair: what's the question
[14:16] <aircorian> bhut does the ubuntu amd64 also works on the intel pc's???
[14:16] <ikonia> alistair: it does
[14:16] <aircorian> ah cool
[14:16] <fosco_> aircorian: yes, if they support 64bits
[14:17] <aircorian> (dont worry fosco , not gone run it on a pentium4 or something :P )
[14:17] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: I figured that instead of wasting time on conversion, I'd pull the links out of all the mht files I have with grep, then review them later and post the useful ones on del.icio.us. Thank you btw for your tip about tackling the problem using scripting. :)
[14:17] <aircorian> so all ya gota do is select the bitrate u wanne use and ignore the intel/amd part's
[14:17] <fosco_> yes
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: np man, script the world
[14:18] <aircorian> cool thx :) cy peeps (ty for the quick response)
[14:18] <fosco_> amd64 means support for generic 64bits arch
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: you can use powershell in windows for similar things
[14:18] <alistair> ikonia: sorry was afk... i use a gnome-panel applet to monitor each network connection (ppp0 and eth0). when i type google.com into firefox, i see activity on eth0 first while firefox says looking up google.com. then it checks ppp0 and it changes to waiting for google.com... then google redirects to www.google.com and i have to go thru the whole process again... it takes like 30secs to load google
[14:19] <ikonia> alistair: a flashing monitor doesn't mean anything
[14:19] <ikonia> alistair: use tcpdump or snoop to monitor the card
[14:19] <ikonia> alistair: if your default route is ppp0 and your hitting an address on the internet it will go out of ppp0 first
[14:19] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Good to know. The scripting solution has the added benefit that I would get all the mht files *off* my system. I'll get back to fixing my regex now.
[14:20] <onos> hi there. does somebody know a little about KVM and could help me?
[14:20] <I_Am> where can i get mpeg2enc?
[14:20] <ikonia> onos: whats up
[14:20] <kiwi_> hi, synaptic does not show updates, even after reload. however, the update manager in gnome panel displays 29 security updates. whtas the reason for this discrepancy?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: if its successful you could publish it to the world at large
[14:21] <strangeseraph> hey guys, I got a CD-ROM problem in Ubuntu!
[14:21] <onos> ikonia: i want to use a bridged network, to get an IP on the LAN
[14:21] <ikonia> onos: ok
[14:21] <ikonia> onos: what's the problem ?
[14:22] <shadfc> Ok, 2.6.24 kernels boot everytime on my machine.  2.6.27 (at least -7 and -9) sit at the ubuntu boot splash for a little while, then fail and drop me to a shell.  Anyone know what changed?  I've tried adding rootdelay up to 130 and it makes no difference
[14:22] <onos> ikonia: for now, I just installed the basic KVM packet and run a couple of virtual machine, but the VM has a kind of "internal" ip with my host (15.0.x.x), not something on my network (192.168.x.x)
[14:22] <strangeseraph> I went into my most recent backup of my old Vista install to find a file, but it wasn't there due to a shoddy backup, so I thought there might be a chance that an older backup might have the file. I went to two of my older backup disks, but Ubuntu won't detect those CD-Roms
[14:22] <ikonia> onos: have you read the kvm FAQ's on the page
[14:22] <ikonia> onos: there is a guide on how to setup bridged networking
[14:22] <strangeseraph>  The two CDs always ran fine inside Vista, but they weren't burnt in vista, they were burned in XP and 2000 respectively.
[14:22] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Definitely. Open source all the way. :) If I could find an easy way to a list of links from a file onto del.icio.us in batches, then I'd be all set.
[14:23] <ikonia> strangeseraph: why are you asking about vista backups in a linux channel ?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: sounds like you got a project ;)
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: try making an iso and mount that maybe
[14:23] <strangeseraph> they aren't backups of the OS they are backups of the DOCUMENTS and the CDS aren't loading IN UBUNTU
[14:23] <onos> ikonia: I read a guide with some bridge packet to add and huge config file, I don't know if it's this one, I wanted to see if something builtin were already here
[14:23] <strangeseraph> make an ISO of what?
[14:24] <ikonia> onos: there is nothing built in
[14:24] <ikonia> onos: you have to set it up
[14:24] <ikonia> strangeseraph: have you tried to mount the cd's ?
[14:24] <onos> ikonia: alright ! thank you very much for your help, I'm going to read that
[14:24] <ikonia> !away > coolbhavi
[14:24] <strangeseraph> the error that pops up is that he drive could not detect any media in it
[14:25] <ikonia> strangeseraph: what about you try to mount it manually, there are some windows burn options that lock a cd out of linux
[14:25] <alistair> ikonia: i'm like 99% sure that's my problem but i'll try snoop... the applet i use monitors upstream/downstream of ppp0 and eth0 and eth0 is mostly at 0kbps unless i'm using my laptop or ps3. the reason i know it's checking eth0 before ppp0 for dns is that it jumps from 0kbps on eth0 every time i lookup a hostname and it hangs in firefox with Looking up hostname.com... All this time there's no activity at all on ppp0. Only when it stops checking eth0
[14:25] <alistair> and there's activity on ppp0 does firefox change it status to Waiting for hostname.com...
[14:25] <strangeseraph> how do I do that?
[14:25] <kasimon> Hi, i managed to destroy my partition table. I've restored the primary partitions with gpart, but it doesn't find the locigal partition inside the extended.
[14:25] <kasimon> Any hints on how to recover the partition?
[14:26] <greyfrog> how do you access numbered man pages such as `man sshd_config(5)`?
[14:26] <sp00f3r> anybody here?
[14:26] <hsarkar> How can I restrict a user to his/her own home directory?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph: dd if=/dev/<cdrom name> of=~/file.iso
[14:26] <mar77i> hi, how can I look up all packages I have installed since, say, two days ago?
[14:26] <ikonia> sp00f3r: 1400 people are
[14:26] <sp00f3r> im using ubuntu and im loosing volume
[14:26] <ikonia> mar77i: look at your dpkg log file in /var/log
[14:26] <sp00f3r> i dont know why
[14:27] <strangeseraph> what if I don't know the CDROM name?
[14:27] <sp00f3r> i loose my volume every so often
[14:27] <sp00f3r> anybody can help?
[14:27] <alistair> lol
[14:27] <theunixgeek> !anybody | sp00f3r
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> strangeseraph:if you only have 1 cd drive, /dev/cdrom will do
[14:27] <recon69> sp00f3r: do you get an error message, or does it just go silent for a couple of seconds?
[14:28] <theunixgeek> I have a display-less Ubuntu desktop, and I logged in via remote desktop from another computer, but, since it's displayless, all I get is a 640x480 screen resolution. How can I get a bigger screen resolution?
[14:28] <sp00f3r> it just get silent
[14:28] <sp00f3r> and i can hear any sound
[14:28] <greyfrog> how do you access numbered man pages such as sshd_config(5)?
[14:28] <zamba> man 5 sshd_config
[14:28] <mar77i> ikonia, cool thx
[14:28] <greyfrog> theunixgeek, I think the resolution you want needs to be specified in you xorg.conf... not sure though
[14:29] <theunixgeek> greyfrog: ok, thanks
[14:29] <sp00f3r> recon69 i dont get any error message, i just cant hear sounds all of a suden
[14:29] <mar77i> grep for president against the "axis of chaotic data" xD
[14:29] <recon69> sp00f3r: and the sound says off?
[14:29] <recon69> says/stays
[14:29] <alistair> ikonia: so you want me to try snoop, yeah?
[14:29] <greyfrog> theunixgeek, they may have changed the way xorg.conf works though so my understanding may not be correct
[14:29] <sp00f3r> no the sounds is still on
[14:29] <strangeseraph> nothing is happening
[14:30] <theunixgeek> greyfrog: alright, I'll reask the question so nobody think I've already solved it ;)
[14:30] <theunixgeek> I have a display-less Ubuntu desktop, and I logged in via remote desktop from another computer, but, since it's displayless, all I get is a 640x480 screen resolution. How can I get a bigger screen resolution?
[14:30] <omnydevi> sp00f3r: is it just when you run a particular application, like Flash or something? Or is it totally random?
[14:30] <sp00f3r> recon69, im playing a youtube video, when i get finish with the video and play another one, it does not have sound
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> theunixgeek: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/  point 17
[14:30] <omnydevi> flash! bam!
[14:30] <strangeseraph> oh wait, now I have an iso file in my home folder. What do I do with that?
[14:30] <sp00f3r> it might be flash
[14:30] <recon69> sp00f3r: what i mean is that the sound stays gone, it does not come back ?
[14:30] <zamba> strangeseraph: mount it with loopback
[14:30] <greyfrog> how do you access numbered man pages such as sshd_config(5)?
[14:30] <sp00f3r> only if i restart the pc
[14:30] <zamba> greyfrog: i've already answered that
[14:30] <strangeseraph> ?
[14:31] <zamba> greyfrog: man 5 sshd_config
[14:31] <theunixgeek> ActionParsnip: I'll check it out
[14:31] <strangeseraph> loopback?
[14:31] <sp00f3r> recon69,  the volume comes back if i restart the PC
[14:31] <tripchronic_> help!  Checking `lkm'... You have     1 process hidden for readdir command
[14:31] <tripchronic_> You have     1 process hidden for ps command
[14:31] <tripchronic_> chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[14:31] <greyfrog> zamba, thanks! lots of traffic here
[14:31] <zamba> strangeseraph: or you burn it with cd burning software
[14:31] <strangeseraph> what is loopback?
[14:31] <zamba> strangeseraph: what *do* you want to do with it? do you know what it is and what it contains?
[14:32] <omnydevi> sp00f3r: most likely flash, you on a 32 bit or 64 bit os?
[14:32] <zamba> strangeseraph: all i see you've written is "nothing is happening" and "oh wait, now I have an iso file in my home folder. What do I do with that?"
[14:32] <sp00f3r> 32 ubuntu V8.4
[14:32] <strangeseraph> you just told me mount with loopback. HOW DO I DO THAT?
[14:32] <zamba> strangeseraph: thus i have no idea about what you're trying to accomplish (and i can't be bothered scrolling way back in chat history to figure it out)
[14:32] <julio_> hello everyone
[14:33] <sp00f3r> omnydevi,  im on a 32 running ubuntu 8.4
[14:33] <zamba> strangeseraph: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[14:33] <omnydevi> sp00f3r: i would go into synaptic and search for flash and uninstall it. Then find a good tutorial, or ask someone here the best way to install it mate. Flash can be tricky
[14:33] <julio_> I'd like to convert the audio codec of all videos from a folder... how can I do that with ffmpeg?
[14:33] <omnydevi> I run 64 bit and flash is easy on that. but i remember on 32 it giving me some grief
[14:33] <sp00f3r> omnydevi, so flash can cause my whole system to loose the volume?
[14:34] <omnydevi> sp00f3r: most likely. it would be a good place to start.
[14:34] <kasimon> any idea? There's 100G data on that partition that I'd love to keep
[14:34] <omnydevi> sp00f3r: flash can do a lot of strange things
[14:34] <recon69> sp00f3r: well, could be a lot of things , as a temporary fix you can kill the pulseaudio process with system monitor and restart the application you where listening to instead of rebooting. and post you system specs (Ubuntu version / computer info /description of problem ) to the forums. you need to provide a lot of info if anyone going to be able to help you.
[14:34] <tripchronic_> !repeat
[14:34] <tripchronic_> chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[14:34] <chetnick> hi, when i watch HD videos it is getting stuck every second for a moment, this HD videos used to play smooth and now they dont. Does anybody have idea why?
[14:35] <chetnick> It's an HD rip
[14:35] <sp00f3r> okay thank you to , recon69  and omnydevi  you have been very helpful
[14:35] <sp00f3r> cya
[14:35] <omnydevi> sp00f3r: if that doesnt work, we will be here :)
[14:35] <sp00f3r> thank you
[14:35] <SlimeyPete> chetnick: you sure your graphics drivers are installed correctly? Also, have you checked the output module of your video player (if possible)?
[14:35] <strangeseraph> okay, I tried that link you sent zamba, and it said 'can't mount superblock'
[14:36] <reya276> Morning
[14:36] <sevenseeker> good morning!
[14:36] <sabirami_ubuntu> What player can i use to play .amr audio files in ubuntu
[14:36] <reya276> does anyone know if there is an application like iDVD for Ubuntu?
[14:36] <sabirami_ubuntu> Good morning reya276  sevenseeker
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> reya276: whats it do?
[14:37] <Oli``> pulseaudio has crashed and I can't seem to kill the pulseaudio process. I've tried killall pulseaudio, sudo killall pulseaudio and sudo pulseaudio -k. Nothing works and it's sending a very annoying few milliseconds of sound to ALSA over and over and over and over and over again... Any ideas?
[14:37] <dmsuperman> What can I do to format a USB hard drive as NTFS?
[14:37] <reya276> ActionParsnip: well it lets you create home DVD videos with templates
[14:37] <dmsuperman> In gparted the option is grayed out
[14:37] <Hatoyu> JOIN
[14:37] <dark_nexus> hola
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> reya276: theres devede which lets you creeate dvds from avi / mpeg etc and create chapters with menus, back grounds and title music
[14:38] <reya276> ActionParsnip: I tried using Kino but does not seem to work correctly
[14:38] <reya276> ActionParsnip: oh yeah that is exactly what I need
[14:39] <reya276> ActionParsnip: is this in the repository?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> reya276: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install devede
[14:39] <chetnick> SlimeyPete: I have Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS, and the drivers have been installed correctly. I have been using system for over an year and this videos worked fine but no somehow they dont.  I am not sure how to check o﻿utput module of my video player. I tried with VLC and Totem Movie Player. Do you think i should try other players?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> !info devede
[14:39] <reya276> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:39] <d0gmaz> hello i have a problem with my wireless card, RaLink RT2561/RT61 its working at 1mbs anyone can help me out with this?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: how do the videos "not work"
[14:39]  * d0gmaz is newb
[14:40] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: when i watch HD movies they dont run smooth, like they are getting stuck evry second or two for a moment.
[14:40] <recon69> got a new laptop, wondering which ubuntu iso to dl and install, it's a Acer Aspire 6930G with intel 2 duo proc p7350, I like the LTR versions but as this is a lap top would I be better with 8.10 , and should i use 64bit or 32 bit option?
[14:40] <tripchronic_> Checking `lkm'... You have     1 process hidden for readdir command
[14:40] <tripchronic_> You have     1 process hidden for ps command
[14:40] <tripchronic_> chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[14:40] <omnydevi> chetnick: you use driver 177?
[14:40] <tripchronic_> anyone?
[14:40] <FloodBot3> tripchronic_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964349
[14:41] <chetnick> omnydevi: it is 169.12
[14:42] <tripchronic_> -_-"
[14:42] <tripchronic_> nobody?
[14:42] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: i found that thread
[14:42] <tripchronic_> i've googled my heart out
[14:42] <d0gmaz> but im not sure if it works and im not skilled enough to fix it
[14:42] <d0gmaz> if it doesnt
[14:42] <dpkirton> god afternoon
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: does the command not sort you out?
[14:43] <omnydevi> chetnick: hrm, not sure :/
[14:43] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: you mean the little script?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: is your wifi device named wlan0 ?
[14:43] <chetnick> omnydevi: yeah man, did not do nothing to the system except update. It just suddenly dont work like it was working. :S
[14:43] <dpkirton> has anybody got any suggestions for connecting a linux mail client to exchange 2007 iv googled but no luck
[14:43] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: yes it is
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[14:44] <mojoNADS> hi room, i've got an entry in crontab that only runs for a few seconds, the command itself takes a few minutes to run, antone have an idea?
[14:44] <tripchronic_> =/
[14:44] <kitty_> dpkirton what mail client are you using?
[14:44] <dpkirton> any i can get to connect to exchange 2007
[14:44] <tripchronic_> i keep running chkrootkit every now and then and sometimes it tells me possible LKM trojan, and sometimes it doesn't
[14:44] <mxpx5555> hello all, received 'PM: Resume from disk failed' after hibernation and now can't see 2nd hard disk, can someone help?
[14:44] <mphill> dpkirton: I use cross over office and office 2007 (outlook)
[14:44] <dpkirton> suggestions welcome
[14:45] <oCean_> mojoNADS: is there any output from command?
[14:45]  * mxpx5555 hello all, received 'PM: Resume from disk failed' after hibernation and now can't see 2nd hard disk, can someone help?
[14:45] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: that command worked
[14:45] <d0gmaz> its now at 54mbs
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: all fast now?
[14:46] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:46] <oCean_> mojoNADS: it is possible to redirect any output (or errors) from command in cron by adding "> /path/to/file.log" after the actual command
[14:46] <recon69> tripchronic: have a look at _http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-216827.html, might help
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: ok sweet, put it in a bas script and add it to your gnome startup
[14:46] <mojoNADS> oCean_: the command deletes some files then does a backup of subversion to a network mount
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !startup | d0gmaz
[14:46] <oCean_> mojoNADS: make that "> /path/to/file.log 2>&1"
[14:47] <mojoNADS> oCean_ i'll give that a shot
[14:47] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: np bro
[14:47] <d0gmaz> ActionParsnip: although its a dirty fix
[14:47] <oCean_> mojoNADS: then see what the logfiles says...
[14:47] <tripchronic_> okay LKM trojan seems like a pretty big fucking deal
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> d0gmaz: if it works...don't knock it...you are right though its not especially graceful
[14:47] <tripchronic_> and nobody here knows anything?
[14:47] <d0gmaz> i thought i had compile the driver from http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com
[14:48] <recon69> tripchronic_: if it's not a false positive you should reinstall the OS as you have no idea what could have been done to your system.
[14:48] <tripchronic_> roger that
[14:48] <tripchronic_> how do i get these LKM trojans, what prevents them?
[14:48] <tripchronic_> i have firestarter, virus scanner
[14:48] <dpkirton> are there any plugins for evolution to connect to exchange 2007
[14:48] <omnydevi> tripchronic_: not downloading everything you see
[14:48] <tripchronic_> does windows get LKM trojans?
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > tripchronic_
[14:48] <omnydevi> yes
[14:49] <recon69> tripchronic_: but i would think it's a false positive , use a different scanner to see if you can get conformation
[14:49] <mphill> dpkirton: not yet
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> tripchronic_: not running loads of apps as sudo and definately NOT logging in as root
[14:49] <mojoNADS> oCean_: i added "> /path/to/file.log 2>&1" and now its running just fine all the way through, any idea what that could be?
[14:50] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Do you use wget btw?
[14:50] <mphill> dpkirton: use crossover office. it works fine.
[14:50] <tripchronic_> okay
[14:50] <oCean_> mojoNADS: hmm, no. Nothing in the log?
[14:50] <tripchronic_> thanks for the help
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: some
[14:50] <tripchronic_> recon69 what other scanners do u have in mind
[14:50] <tripchronic_> recon69 it comes and goes, could it be a false positive
[14:50] <mojoNADS> oCean_: just the output from the script for each step
[14:51] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Do you find it reliable? Particularly to check whether a page exists?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> tripchronic_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/possible-lkm-trojan-install-kernel-2.6.0-127748/
[14:51] <tripchronic_> recon69 or is whoever whos doing this just switching it on and off at whim
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: yeah its been fine thus far
[14:51] <tripchronic_> thanks ActionParsnip
[14:51] <oCean_> mojoNADS: okay, it can be that the script needed this redirection, since it cannot output to screen (when run from cron)
[14:51] <kitty_> i must be a little retarded cause i CANNOT get any search results from the ubuntu forums
[14:52] <oCean_> kitty_: any?
[14:52] <Hrun> hej. i want to install ubuntu on an iBook, is that hard, or piece of cake?
[14:52] <onexused> I'm having problems with my 56k dialup connection.  I can connect, but I can't resolve any names or ping any IPs (including the gateway's).  If I use the same program, same settings (as far as I know) on another computer, I have no problems.  Ideas?
[14:52] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Thanks. :) Looks like I could use wget --spider to validate all the links I parse out of those mht files before getting them into a txt file. Would you be interested in reviewing the finished script? If you are, pm me.
[14:52] <kitty_> i type in something as easy as "aticonfig no protocol" and it doesn't have any results
[14:52] <mojoNADS> oCean_: gotcha, it would actually be a good idea to get a script for the result... u know of anyway i can e-mail it after the command runs?
[14:53] <Zehava> I have index.php and portal.php both in my /var/www/ I need portal.php to show up when people enter the site, but it goes directly to index.php instead.  How can I change this please?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: im kinda snowed right now
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: sorry
[14:53] <oCean_> mojoNADS: can be done with some (not too hard) shell scripting
[14:53] <recon69> tripchronic_: did you read the link i posted ?
[14:54] <tripchronic_> yup
[14:54] <tripchronic_> something about it being prone to false alarms because it picks up short lived processes
[14:54] <bahr> Is there some way to restore my ubuntu 8.10 installation to default, containing only the default packages, without reinstalling the whole system?
[14:54] <mojoNADS> oCean_: well, i'll look into that. Thanks a lot for all your help.
[14:54] <dpkirton> just purchased a copy of crossover office we will see how it goes
[14:54] <omnydevi> tripchronic_: i think nod32 would be best for you, if you care about a good anti virus, never used it in linux, but used at work on our xp/vista machines. its a good app
[14:54] <flajann> Has anyone noticed a problem with Evolution hanging for a few monents whilst you type in the email address box, especially on an Exchange account?
[14:54] <tripchronic_> im still paranoid because i dont know how these lkm trojans work...in theory if whoever backdoored it turned it off, wouldnt it go away
[14:55] <oCean_> mojoNADS: n/p, maybe i have an example script.. wait a moment
[14:55] <omnydevi> tripchronic_: you could always get a gui firewall as well, couldn't hurt
[14:55] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: No worries, mate. :)
[14:55] <tripchronic_> i have firestarter
[14:55] <Pici> Zehava: You'll need to modify apache's behavior for this directory.  #apache and the the documentation apache.org should be able to help you there.  .htaccess may be helpful as well.
[14:55] <Zehava> Pici thank you
[14:56] <omnydevi> i would look in there then, i would still put 5 bucks on a false positive
[14:56] <onexused> When I try connecting to the Internet with my 56k dialup connection, I am able to connect, but I can't go to any sites or even ping what's supposed to be the gateway.  With another computer running Linux, using the same program, I have no problems.  Ideas?
[14:56] <tripchronic_> would a hardware router/firewall be any good?
[14:56] <tripchronic_> add additional protection?
[14:57] <omnydevi> heh, if you just use your OS like you should, ya shouldn't need a army of equipment to keep you safe. i would just go over some best practices guides ;)
[14:57] <ferran91> Hola
[14:57] <tripchronic_> im more paranoid than naughty lol
[14:57] <ferran91> tengo un problema
[14:57] <tripchronic_> i do some online banking and etc
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, most people that use firestarter are less secure than people that let the iptables do their own thing.  Friestarter is not a firewall just an iptable manager anyhow
[14:57] <tripchronic_> just dont wanna lose my identity
[14:58] <tripchronic_> oic
[14:58] <tripchronic_> removing as we speak
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[14:58] <oCean_> mojoNADS: can't find the script right now, but have a look at this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/102769/
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !iptables
[14:58] <recon69> tripchronic_: do you have any other reason to suspect your infected? unknown network traffic , strange computer behaviours ect, or you just got a chkproc warning ? and as for safe banking , if you not a heavy user I recommend the phone
[14:59] <oCean_> mojoNADS: make such a script, and put *that* script in your cron. Try and see.. good luck
[14:59] <onexused> When I try connecting to the Internet with my 56k dialup connection, I am able to connect, but I can't go to any sites or even ping what's supposed to be the gateway.  With another computer running Linux, using the same program, I have no problems.  Ideas?
[14:59] <zolotarev> are there any viruses for linux?
[14:59] <Ubuntunewbie> how can i check to see if i installed modules right?
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, SAfe practices or not running as root user and knowing the source of the programs you use will go a long way in keeping ou safe
[15:00] <tripchronic_> just got the chkproc warning and dropped my nuts, so to speak
[15:00] <Pici> Zehava: 'not really' see: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[15:00] <tripchronic_> among the paranoia
[15:00] <omnydevi> Jack_Sparrow: edzackery!
[15:00] <tripchronic_> yeah i dont use any programs that don't come from ubuntu
[15:00] <omnydevi> tripchronic_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/chkrootkit-warning-of-lkm-trojan-242318/
[15:00] <tripchronic_> i try to keep it all in harmony
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, Great start
[15:00] <onexused> zolotarev: as far as I know, just a proof of concept one: bliss
[15:00] <Ubuntunewbie> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=r8187 - i followed this step for step for my wireless card, but i can not tell if it worked, does anyone know?
[15:01] <zolotarev> thanx
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, you can look at the scanner at grc.com and scan your ports to see if anything is really open
[15:02] <tripchronic_> Jack_Sparrow thanks for that
[15:02] <tripchronic_> scanning now
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:02] <zanak> hi all
[15:03] <kitty_> i have a ati HD 3850, when i run aticonfig --initial, i get a line that says "no protocol specified" and it appears to exit properly, but with the catalyst control center it says i don't have an ati video card
[15:03] <zanak> does anyone knows a good and simple SAX c++ parser?
[15:03] <_moro_bana_> how do I upfrade dist from terminal?
[15:03] <_moro_bana_> upgrade*
[15:03] <rebel_gui> since i updated to 8.10 i have been getting a "problem with audio playback" error when making calls with skype. i cant seem to find anything up to date on google. does anyone have a solution?
[15:03] <recon69> tripchronic_: I just dont trust internet banking, to much to go wrong to ever be 100% sure. I dont need a lot of contact with my bank and phone banking works very well for me. but you may have different needs
[15:03] <erUSUL> !upgrade | _moro_bana_
[15:04] <ohzie> rebel_gui, I'm going to guess it's Pulse
[15:04] <rebel_gui> ohzie, i believe im using pulse yes
[15:04] <ohzie> rebel_gui, Skype works great with ALSA. You could downgrade from pulse to alsa?
[15:05] <rebel_gui> ohzie, are you on 8.10?
[15:05] <tripchronic_> recon69 not so much internet banking just buying things with a cc
[15:05] <tripchronic_> online
[15:05] <tripchronic_> i know about internet security im just new to linux and wanna make sure there are no keyloggers and such...trend micro did a good job and vista...but me and vista didnt get along so well
[15:05] <tripchronic_> =/
[15:06] <ohzie> rebel_gui, Yes
[15:06] <recon69> should i use 32bit ubuntu or 64bit ubuntu with a intel duo p7350 processor with 3gb ram?
[15:06] <ohzie> rebel_gui, But I don't use skype atm.
[15:06] <Grab> hello i installed ubuntu and want to switch to Xubuntu: should i reinstall ?
[15:06] <omnydevi> tripchronic_: the best method is to format and reinstall.
[15:06] <Grab> !xubuntu
[15:06] <Grab> ok
[15:06] <rebel_gui> ohzie, but have you tried skype on alsa with 8.10
[15:06] <ohzie> rebel_gui, No, I use pulse.
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> recon69, 32
[15:07] <zanak> no one?
[15:07] <rebel_gui> ohzie, alright... confusing but i guess i can downgrade, do you happen to have a tut on swapping pulse with alsa, or is it something real simple
[15:07] <recon69> Jack_Sparrow: rgr, thx
[15:08] <tripchronic_> will do
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, how did the scan go
[15:08] <tripchronic_> our system REPLIED to our Ping (ICMP Echo) requests, making it visible on the Internet. Most personal firewalls can be configured to block, drop, and ignore such ping requests in order to better hide systems from hackers. This is highly recommended since "Ping" is among the oldest and most common methods used to locate systems prior to further exploitation.
[15:08] <ushimitsudoki1> zanak: xerces?
[15:08] <soc> hi
[15:08] <Thxpnp^Laptop> !gentoo
[15:09] <ohzie> rebel_gui, I have no idea.
[15:09] <ohzie> :D
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, I m not to worried about a ping
[15:09] <soc> since the openssl/libssl update my ssh keys don't work anymore, i can't unlock them anymore
[15:09] <soc> reboot didn't help
[15:09] <rebel_gui> ohzie, lol ok
[15:09] <tripchronic_> i selected all service ports
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[15:09] <pablop> can you please explain the first and the second row when running 'free' command
[15:10] <tripchronic_> everything else seems to be set to stealth
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> pablop, man free
[15:10] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: Behind behind a router that does NAT kinda render ping useless anyway doesn't it?
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ardchoille, yep
[15:11] <Reave> I have two internel hardrives in my machine that I need ubuntu to mount - both are formatted with ext3. I want to add them to /etc/fstab but where do I get the UUID serial to make an entry for them?
[15:11] <DefamedPrawn> is there any way I can beef up the volume in pulse audio?
[15:11] <mphill> Reave: execute the command blkid
[15:11] <pablop> Jack_Sparrow: I did. I don't understand the difference between Mem and buffers/cache
[15:11] <ardchoille> !blkid
[15:11] <tesseracter> why have there been so many kernel updates recently?
[15:12] <citybird> hello all. where does ubuntu put the -dev packages when you install them?
[15:12] <trojan_princess> :)
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> pablop, I was not trying to be rude. by telling you you could read the man on that, I simply dont know myself
[15:12] <rebel_gui> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio says that there problems with pulse and skype, but im also confused because 8.04 comes with pulse standard and it worked fun on 8.04, it was when i updated to 8.10 that skype fails
[15:12] <citybird> hello all. where does ubuntu put the -dev packages when you install them?
[15:12] <ushimitsudoki> citybird: you can use dpkg -L package to see the files
[15:12] <pablop> Jack_Sparrow: that's fine. I didn't think that :)
[15:12] <citybird> ah
[15:12] <recon69> tesseracter: progress :) , the last one stopped my kernel crashing under heavy Internet usage
[15:13] <Reave> I did but it only shows partitions from the drive ubuntu is installed to
[15:13] <Reave> do I need to use arguments with it?
[15:13] <omnydevi> reaver - do you have to mount with uuid?
[15:13] <onexused>  When I try connecting to the Internet with my 56k dialup connection, I am able to connect, but I can't go to any sites or even ping what's supposed to be the gateway.  With another computer running Linux, using the same program, I have no problems.  Ideas?
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Reave, sudo fdisk -l   last letter is L should show all partitions
[15:13] <Flaw> #ubuntu, 1 ops, 1337 users.
[15:13] <Flaw> leet.
[15:14] <tesseracter> recon69, well, im  getting tired of reboot, recompile drivers, reboot, configure.
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Flaw, Play nice.. we try to avoid those terms in here
[15:14] <citybird> ushimitsudoki: hey thanks for the info but it seems i'm way off base
[15:14] <Flaw> Jack_Sparrow: That just amused me.
[15:14] <Flaw> Sorry.
[15:14] <IdleOne> what does grub loading stage 2 read error mean?
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:14] <ushimitsudoki> citybird: off base how?
[15:15] <citybird> i am looking for the source code for freetds-dev
[15:15] <tesseracter> IdleOne, cant read the boot disk. make sure you dont have external HDs or usb plugged in.
[15:15] <citybird> and i keep getting the FreeTDS install dir is not found
[15:15] <IdleOne> tesseracter: thanks
[15:15] <_moro_bana_> having a hard time here,trying to updrade,the manager says"could not download all repo indexes" help
[15:15] <ushimitsudoki> citybird: if you are just after the source: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/freetds-dev
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !find freetds
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !info freetds-dev
[15:16] <recon69> tesseracter: what version you using, I get a new kernel about every 6 months with the 8.04 LTS. dont really know the cycle though
[15:16] <ushimitsudoki> citybird: that's not the same as installing it of course, but if you just want to grab the source, that's usually the route i take
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> citybird, synaptic is handy for seeing where everything got installed
[15:16] <mo> i got a driver problem with my e1000e network card and response times in browsers, which are unacceptably long. thought about hostname resoluion problems, but manual resolutions seems quite normal
[15:17] <_moro_bana_> it says failed to fetch cdrom,but its in the drive
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mo which release of ubuntu
[15:18] <mo> Jack_Sparrow, 8.10 amd64
[15:18] <abuchbinder> Does anyone know where I can find an XDCC service which *isn't* sending illegal files?
[15:18] <soc> since the openssl/libssl update my ssh keys don't work anymore, i can't unlock them ... i could really need some help!
[15:18] <mo> Jack_Sparrow, some ethernet diagnosis options?
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> mo have you looked at the supported hardware page to see if others have it working
[15:18] <tesseracter> recon69, 8.10 here, i just saw that it is a proposed update, not an actual one.
[15:19] <citybird> ushimitsudoki: apt-get source freetds-dev was the key
[15:19] <ushimitsudoki> citybird: hooray!
[15:19] <abuchbinder> I think I've found a bug in xchat-gnome's handling of autoaccepted DCC transfers, but I can't really paste an example or reproduction instructions unless I have an XDCC server to work with.
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !bug
[15:20] <abuchbinder> Was that "!bug" directed at me?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[15:20] <Jeruvy> abuchbinder: why don't you set up your own xdcc server then?
[15:20] <abuchbinder> Hm. I suppose I could do that.
[15:20] <mo> Jack_Sparrow, afaik there is no complete database. and sure, intel gigabit cards are designated to work. and it does. ... but fu***** slow
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> abuchbinder, You could allllso search the bug reports for a  similar issue
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mo Lost the **** profanity..  thanks
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> lose
[15:22] <abuchbinder> Jack_Sparrow: I assure you, I know how to file a bug, and I haven't been able to find a similar issue. (Here's a bug I filed yesterday against xchat-gnome, complete with debdiff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/315243 ). If anyone would like to confirm it, by the way, that'd be nice.
[15:22] <mo> ?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> abuchbinder, I wont use xchat-gnome...  but noted
[15:23] <citybird> ushimitsudoki: now it can't find libtds.a¦so *sob* it's like gentoo all over again!
[15:23] <ushimitsudoki> citybird: .a is a shared library, no? it's not going to be in a source package
[15:24] <citybird> hmm
[15:24] <citybird> can't find it on my HD
[15:25] <kitty_> ok i'm just not finding any help with my issue, is there someone that can take the time to hold my hand?
[15:25] <FISHBRAIN> hi all. can someone help me to grow my raid 5 to 4 disks on ubuntu using mdadm?
[15:27] <genii> FISHBRAIN: PErhaps see http://www.kolbu.com/2007/01/10/growing-raid5-sets-in-ubuntu/
[15:28] <oCean_> kitty_: share your issue, and see who's able to help you...
[15:28] <kitty_> ati hd 3850, i run aticonfig --initial and i get "no protocol specified" from the output but it doesn't terminate with an error
[15:30] <FISHBRAIN> this could help... i have read some wikis... but didnt quite understand those steps.... dont wanna mess this up and lose all my data
[15:30] <jackmcbarn> my cpu doesnt support virtualization
[15:30] <jackmcbarn> is there any way besides kvm i can use for it?
[15:31] <oCean_> kitty_: I'm sorry, don't know about that. :(
[15:31] <Guest24801> jackmcbarn: To do what?
[15:31] <theunixgeek> Can I open Office 2007 documents in OOo 2.4?
[15:31] <jackmcbarn> run virtual machines
[15:32] <D--> jack: VirtualBox will run regardless
[15:32] <D--> and quite well
[15:32] <jackmcbarn> not virtualbox/vmware style, more like xen/openvz though
[15:32] <D--> Oh, then no clue.
[15:32] <D--> never used those
[15:32] <Jeruvy> theunixgeek: you may want to upgrade to 3.0 but it should, #openoffice is a better channel for this question.
[15:33] <enzo> hi
[15:33] <n8tus> jackmcbarn -> openvz does not require pae or cpu virtualization
[15:33] <kitty_> looking for help with ati HD 3850
[15:33] <jackmcbarn> yes
[15:33] <jackmcbarn> but
[15:33] <enzo> I'd like to store all my docs on a remote server, and several persons should be able to access these docs, what can i use ? I've seen webdav
[15:33] <nnull> ok guys i changed my sound settings in Preferences > Sound, now all sound tests pass, and sound in Movies works fine!, but ubuntu Startup sound and other Ubuntu sounds are all Crackly?? Im thinking maybe this has to do with .ogg drivers or something???
[15:33] <jackmcbarn> how do i get it to work
[15:34] <enzo> but it doesn't seem to work in offline mode
[15:34] <jackmcbarn> openvz stuff disappeared with 8.04 -> 8.10
[15:34] <jackmcbarn> thats what i did use before
[15:34] <theunixgeek> thanks, Jeruvy
[15:34] <nnull> kitty what problems are you having with it?
[15:35] <n8tus> jackmcbarn -> why do you need 8.10 ?  you can run openvz for the old and attempt to use 8.10 as one of the guest
[15:35] <nnull> guys i changed my sound settings in Preferences > Sound, now all sound tests pass, and sound in Movies works fine!, but ubuntu Startup sound and other Ubuntu sounds are all Crackly?? Im thinking maybe this has to do with .ogg drivers or something???
[15:35] <kitty_> aticonfig --initial does its stuff, and reports "no protocol specified", updates the xorg.conf and nothing...
[15:35] <nnull> 8.04 kitty_ ?
[15:35] <kitty_> i tried using the catalyst control center package as well and it told me to configure it with aticonfig...
[15:36] <Fuzzy> hey guys need help, when i start a call in skype it says: Error With Audio Playback... what to do?
[15:36] <jackmcbarn> n8tus: im already upgraded
[15:36] <jackmcbarn> although in hindsight, i wish i wasnt
[15:36] <rbd> hi. I have a script that uses "dpkg -i" to install some custom (local) packages. this will reinstall the package even if the same version/packaging is already installed. is there a way to only install if the package isn't present or if the packages version is newer than what's on the system already?
[15:36] <kitty_> probably
[15:36] <n8tus> jackmcbarn -> well, if you did find out there are no openvz for that, then install the older ones
[15:36] <Fuzzy> hey guys need help, when i start a call in skype it says: Error With Audio Playback... what to do?
[15:36] <rebel_kid> removing pulseaudio and installing esound i get absolutely no input from the microphone using skype or sound recorder
[15:36] <jackmcbarn> how?
[15:36] <nnull> kitty type uname -a in console
[15:36] <grapz_> Anyone know when nvidia-glx-180.22 package will be available for Jaunty? (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/180.22-0ubuntu1)
[15:36] <jackmcbarn> older packages?
[15:37] <kitty_> Linux kitty-laptop 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 18:32:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:37] <n8tus> jackmcbarn -> did you read anything at all about openvz?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> grapz_, Please ask in the correct room  #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <jackmcbarn> yes
[15:37] <Fuzzy> Somebody will tell me allready or NO!?
[15:37] <Fuzzy> Somebody will tell me allready or NO?!
[15:37] <jackmcbarn> i had it working before
[15:37] <jackmcbarn> on 8.04
[15:37] <jackmcbarn> then i upgraded
[15:37] <jackmcbarn> and it went away
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy, Please dont do that
[15:37] <Pici> !enter | Jack_Sparrow
[15:37] <grapz_> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks :)
[15:37] <Fuzzy> Jack_Sparrow, what?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy, repeat.. like that
[15:38] <KNY> hey guys, I have a server that's been running feisty for a while now and would like to dist-upgrade to hardy or intrepid. Unfortunately, it looks like fiesty is no longer supported in the repos; is there anything i can do?
[15:38] <Fuzzy> Jack_Sparrow, do you now solvig for this prob?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks pici
[15:38] <Fuzzy> Jack_Sparrow, or no?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy, Stop
[15:38] <nnull> well kitty tbh i tried getting it to work on 0.4, and failed, how i it working was 1: download + install ubuntu 8.10 inteprid -- 2: boot and download updates from update manager -- 3: reboot and if it doesnt popup by itself goto Administration > Drivers and the driver will be there to activate.
[15:39] <_polto_> hi all !
[15:39] <omnydevi> fuzzy - i would try tinkering with the audio settings in skype...would be a good start
[15:39] <Fuzzy> Jack_Sparrow, hey pirate of carribean know the prob solve or no???
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy, Ask your complete question every couple of minutes and wait for an answer
[15:39] <omnydevi> fuzzy - bad idea
[15:39] <Pici> !patience | Fuzzy
[15:39] <nnull> guys i changed my sound settings in Preferences > Sound, now all sound tests pass, and sound in Movies works fine!, but ubuntu Startup sound and other Ubuntu sounds are all Crackly?? Im thinking maybe this has to do with .ogg drivers or something???
[15:39] <IWannaBeTheGuy> Hello, how do I get the mms:// media protocol to be inbedded in mplayer/firefox as any other media?
[15:39] <_polto_> I have a small issue with network manager. Is there a way to force it to keep the interface up even if the cable is unplugged ? I need it to be able to flash my embedded network camera
[15:39] <rmrfslash> Hey all.... I have 32-bit Linux with at least 4 GB of memory (2 x 2 GB DIMMs). However, cat /proc/meminfo shows only 3109948 kB, which is roughly 3 GB. Can anyone even begin to explain this?
[15:40] <Fuzzy> omnydevi, if not?
[15:40] <Jeruvy> KNY: check this link for instructions: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lts-upgrades
[15:40] <nnull> rmrfslash, does it show up as 4 gig in windoze?
[15:40] <carlos_> hola a todos
[15:40] <omnydevi> rmrfslash: it is a 32 bit OS, you wont get all 4gb unless you go 64 bit
[15:40] <citybird> whelp back to square one. configure error cannot find freetds in known installation directories
[15:40] <KNY> Jeruvy, thanks
[15:40] <perlluver> rmrfslash, 32bit only sees 3.5 GB, 64bit will see all 4
[15:40] <Pici> !es | carlos_
[15:40] <FISHBRAIN> i try growing my raid5 with madam, but the -add command gives me "not valid in manage mode" any ideas?
[15:40] <KNY> rmrfslash, the RAM will be 4GB minus any address spaces reserved for hardware
[15:40] <kitty_> so basically you're telling me to just spend 6 or 72 hours waiting for the new distro to download and hope it doesn't kill everything on my computer like it did last time?
[15:40] <carlos_> pici q tal
[15:40] <KNY> same deal under windows
[15:40] <omnydevi> Fuzzy: this is volunteer support. if you wanna be a jerk about it, you will find it hard to get help
[15:40] <jackmcbarn> on 8.04 i could just apt-get the openvz packages.  on 8.10 i cant do that
[15:41] <KNY> rmrfslash, you'll need 64-bit to use them all
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> rmrfslash, Common issue, the kernel uses all 4 as it sees  fit..  If you must have 4 available for programs you can install the server kernel etc, but it isnt a big deal the way it is
[15:41] <omar> Hello, I want to install GTK+ in my ubuntu version
[15:41] <FISHBRAIN> acutally it says option -d not valid in manage mode
[15:41] <fosco_> Jack_Sparrow: kernel image for server is compiled with HIMEM option?
[15:41] <omnydevi> i have 8gb ram, and with 3 vm's up, cod4 with cedega, compiz, and others, i barely break 2gb
[15:42] <sskroeder> Hi all ...
[15:42] <sskroeder> Anybody here have expriences with regards to having a iPhone 3G and using Ubuntu as your OS ?
[15:42] <Benandro> @Fuzzy have you tried the test within the skype config? are you sure alsa and pulseaudio are working? (/etc/init.d/alsa restart;/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart)
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> fosco_, It is suppoded to address ann 4 gig, not sure how they did it
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> all
[15:42] <fosco_> ok
[15:42] <StuartD> Does anybody know anything at all about Andrew File System?
[15:42] <nnull> Guys in Preferences > Sound - I do all the Sound Test and they all pass fine, movie sound runs fine also, but with my Startup Sound + Other Ubuntu system sounds the sound is all crackly?? any ideas guys??
[15:42] <sskroeder> I'm considering investing in an iPhone - but would also like to have it working with my computer
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sskroeder, perhaps /join #ubuntu-mobile
[15:43] <nnull> Jack_Sparrow, any idea mate?
[15:43] <Fuzzy> Benandro, dont need that allready ty
[15:43] <kitty_> nnull: so basically you're telling me to just spend 6 or 72 hours waiting for the new distro to download and hope it doesn't kill everything on my computer like it did last time?
[15:43] <KNY> Jeruvy, perhaps I'm blind, but I don't see instructions anywhere, though that launchpad entry says today might be a long day :-/
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> nnull, Idea on what
[15:43] <nnull> Jack_Sparrow, my problem i keep spamming :s
[15:43] <Jeruvy> KNY: hehe and wise words they are
[15:44] <nnull> kitty_, just telling you how i got it working :x
[15:44] <KNY> Jeruvy, so I'm basically SOL?
[15:44] <Benandro> Argh.. gonna change my nick to Thierry_Andriamirado. See you soon guys
[15:44] <sskroeder> Jack_Sparrow: thanks -- I'll go there ;-D
[15:44] <nnull> Guys in Preferences > Sound - I do all the Sound Test and they all pass fine, movie sound runs fine also, but with my Startup Sound + Other Ubuntu system sounds the sound is all crackly?? any ideas guys??
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> kitty_, Please stop .. that isnt a question that will help you
[15:44] <Jeruvy> KNY: no, but it will be a long day.
[15:45] <kitty_> jack_: please stuff it, i'd rather listen to ubot bitch at me then you
[15:45] <omnydevi> ouch
[15:45] <KNY> Jeruvy, crap. I might just be better off reinstalling, eh?
[15:45] <dhalsimm> hi, I am trying to run C program in eclipse, I can compile it on terminal with gcc but can't do it on eclipse, what configuration should I do?
[15:45] <KNY> dhalsimm, #eclipse
[15:46] <Jeruvy> KNY: you are always better off doing a fresh upgrade.  If you backup /home you can restore it after a reinstall.
[15:46] <rmrfslash> KNY: You're closer to what I was looking for. Thanks
[15:46] <KNY> Jeruvy, unfortunately this is a web server with all kinds of stuff everywhere :-/
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[15:46] <omar> Hello, I want to install GTK+ in my ubuntu version
[15:46] <nnull> Jeruvy, yea, and not a bad idea to make /home a seperate partition, saves you the trouble :)
[15:46] <KNY> Jeruvy, I already backed up /home, /var, /etc
[15:47] <rmrfslash> KNY: I believe after probing the linux channel that yes, I see less due to hardware address space
[15:47] <Pici> omar: It should already be installed.   What are you trying to do?
[15:47] <Jeruvy> KNY: that link actually is a overview page, if you click on the details it will direct you to notes for the dist-upgrade.
[15:47] <fosco_> omar: gtk+ is installed by default
[15:47] <rebel_kid> i have removed pulseaudio (in the hopes of fixing some mic problems) but now no program gets input from the mic
[15:47] <nnull> Guys in Preferences > Sound - I do all the Sound Test and they all pass fine, movie sound runs fine also, but with my Startup Sound + Other Ubuntu system sounds the sound is all crackly?? any ideas guys??
[15:47] <Jeruvy> KNY: one of those is this link which should be more helpful :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:48] <KNY> thanks
[15:48] <KNY> why is 7.04 not supported anymore?
[15:48] <allsystemsarego> end of life
[15:48] <persia> Hi.  Someone recently redirected sskroeder from here to #ubuntu-mobile to talk about getting the iPhone 3G to work.
[15:48] <KNY> 7.04 + 3 = 10.04, no?
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rmrfslash, Was  it  an understandable answer?
[15:48] <Pici> KNY: Because it has reached its end of life.
[15:49] <orudie> hi, quick question. I have perl v. 5.10 installed, i need version 5.8 instead. When i do sudo apt-get remove perl, it wants to free up 181 mb , and one of the packages that it wants to remove is apache2
[15:49] <KNY> I thought it was 3 years for normal, 5 for LTS
[15:49] <Pici> KNY: 7.04 was not an LTS release.
[15:49] <KNY> ah
[15:49] <KNY> damn
[15:49] <persia> #ubuntu-mobile is more about getting Ubuntu to work on small devices (perhaps like the iPhone), than getting those devices to work with an Ubuntu Desktop.
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !releases
[15:49] <KNY> dang.
[15:49] <omar> Pici: fasco_: I am trying to install a theme
[15:49] <Pici> KNY: LTS releases are supported for 3 years on the desktop 5 on servers and 18 months for non LTS releases.
[15:49] <omar> this theme require GTK+
[15:49] <KNY> ah
[15:49] <mo> my response time until a page ist loaded in a browser is very high ... which  tools are there to make a diagnosis ?
[15:49] <_polto_> I have a small issue with network manager. Is there a way to force it to keep the interface up even if the cable is unplugged ? I need it to be able to flash my embedded network camera
[15:50] <Pici> omar: Are you getting an error?
[15:50] <omar> yes
[15:50] <iratik> Silly quick question i can't figure out how to setup screenrc to open a window in a specific subdirectory ... "screen -t scripts 1 cd /home/jfahr/scripts" gives me an error "cannot exec 'cd' permission denied"... I've googled the error and looked around many screenrc examples looking for what i'm trying to do.. .which should be pretty easy... anyone got a hint for me ?
[15:50] <omar> Pici: I wil explain in details
[15:50] <n8tus> _polto_ -> you can always assign a static ip addr on your nic
[15:50] <scott-1987> cara
[15:51] <nnull> Guys in Preferences > Sound - I do all the Sound Test's and they all pass fine, movie sound runs fine also, but with my Startup Sound + Other Ubuntu system sounds the sound is all crackly?? any ideas guys??
[15:51] <scott-1987> estou recebendo inumeros ataques num num servidor sql
[15:51] <scott-1987> porta 1433
[15:51] <Pici> !br | scott-1987
[15:51] <scott-1987> ataques externos
[15:51] <omnydevi> iratik: sounds like you dont have permission to files in your home folder. that OR you dont have rights to cd
[15:51] <fosco_> omar to install a gtk theme just drag and drop the tgz file over the appearance window
[15:51] <iratik> I'm root!?
[15:51] <scott-1987> Pici: vlw... eu me esqueço
[15:51] <iratik> (root through sudo -s, or  su)
[15:52] <_polto_> n8tus: yes, but it still do ifconfig eth0 down then I disconnect the cable. My problem is that I need to disconnect my POE camera, and after I reconnect the cable I need to flash the camera and the network manager take more time to bring the interface up.
[15:52] <bunny> can i install kde desktop env without actually having to download ..( i have the kubuntu cd)
[15:52] <jackmcbarn> so how can i install openvz on 8.10?
[15:52] <n8tus> _polto_ -> i dont understand what you are  trying to do, disconnecting a cable does not bring the interface down
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> bunny, do you not have internet on that other box?
[15:53] <bunny> actually my college gives me only 20 mbs :(
[15:53] <_polto_> n8tus: apparently it does.
[15:53] <rd> hai
[15:53] <tiyowan> jackmcbarn, check out the Virtualization section on the ubuntu forums. There are links to install guides there.
[15:53] <n8tus> _polto_ -> only if  you do ifdown eth0
[15:53] <rd> anyone fromindonesia?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> bunny, The live cds cant be used as repos, the alternate can..  or just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <Pici> !id | rd
[15:53] <nnull> Guys in Preferences > Sound - I do all the Sound Test's and they all pass fine, movie sound runs fine also, but with my Startup Sound + Other Ubuntu system sounds the sound is all crackly?? any ideas guys??
[15:54] <mo> my response time until a page ist loaded in a browser is very high ... which  tools are there to make a diagnosis ?
[15:54] <AndyC> Is there a similiar app to PSPad for Linux?  I want to be able to edit CSS/HTML using FTP.
[15:54] <omar> Pici: fasco_: I try to make ubuntu theme like windows vista theme
[15:54] <bunny> will i have to change something on the software sources ?
[15:54] <G13> dissconect
[15:54] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: The alternate CDs can be used as repos? 8-)
[15:54] <omar> and I follow the instruction in the following link: http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bunny, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop         should be all you need. but it is a bit of a dl
[15:54] <n8tus> mo what is the exact issue you have?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan, yes
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan, the dvd's contain all of repo MAIN
[15:55] <bunny> thanx man ..
[15:55] <tiyowan> Jack_Sparrow: Amazing. I need to look into that.
[15:55] <omar> I installed the aurora theme
[15:55] <TAndriamirado> Hello guys, how to upgrade from Gutsy to Intrepid?
[15:56] <omar> but when I chose it from the theme windows
[15:56] <ortsvorsteher> !upgrade | TAndriamirado
[15:56] <mo> n8tus, it feels like the host lookup takes very long and so the whole website is loading very long. but manual lookups work finde
[15:56] <_polto_> n8tus: my device is POE, between my PC and the camera I have a POE power injector,  As the device is POE the only way to reboot it is to unplug and replug the ethernet cable. If I do it I do not see eth0 in ifconfig output while the camera is of. And then it take too long to restore, so I can't use my reflashing script..
[15:56] <rd> system ->administration ->update manager
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan, they cannont possibly have 20 gigs of repos, but what they have will be accessible
[15:56] <AndyC> Anyone use Bluefish?
[15:56] <n8tus> TAndriamirado -> do you have good reasons why you think you need to upgrade?
[15:56] <rd> yup
[15:56] <rd> andyc-yup
[15:57] <AndyC> rd: You can edit remote files?
[15:57] <_Cid> Does anyone here have a sieve script that discards mail based on x-spam ranking?  - I would like to see it, the one I got is misbehaving, thank youi
[15:57] <bunny> hey can u tell me some think so that i can easly look into java source codes .. i am thinking of getting involved with openCMS
[15:57] <rd> remote file?
[15:57] <n8tus> _polto_ -> what is your definition of POE ?
[15:58] <recon69> ﻿mo: ping and traceroute are good for checking your connection of network problems
[15:58] <AndyC> rd: Files on your webserver
[15:58] <_polto_> n8tus:  Power Over Ethernet, sorry. ;)
[15:58] <n8tus> mo are you sure its the lookup and not the downloading of graphics? maybe disable javascript? disable ipv6 too?
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> mo Are you talking about a slow dns lookup?
[15:58] <rd> andy->just edit from your hosting file manager? are you using cpanel?
[15:59] <TAndriamirado> @ortsvorsteher !upgrade?
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mo If you type an ip it is fast  but google.com takes a bit
[15:59] <abuchbinder> Is anyone else here running xchat-gnome on Intrepid? (Or on any other distro, come to think of it?)
[15:59] <AndyC> rd: Yes
[15:59] <bunny> yeah ..
[15:59] <n8tus> _polto_ -> i dont seem to understand your POE,  the power lines in the cables are not same as the pair for tx/rx of data, so why do you think it depends on the tx/rx pair?
[15:59] <erica647> I run the regular X-chat on gnome
[16:00] <nassir> hello
[16:00] <geeksquad> how do you use vnc to connnect to  a computer an a diffrent ip
[16:00] <Pandemic187> hey guys...what is the command that will allow my GTK theme to be applied to synaptic and such?
[16:00] <n8tus> geeksquad -> vncviewer ipaddress
[16:00] <geeksquad> its my computer
[16:00] <rd> andy:login to cpnel -> choose menu file -> Legacy File Manager and you'llbring to your file explorer
[16:01] <abuchbinder> Darnit, I'm at work and I have to help a user. Back in a sec. I want people to try and test something for me in a minute.
[16:01] <air>  обьясните мне какой дистр.(ubuntu x64 / ubuntu x86) по архитектуре лучше для моего компьютера (Intel Atom n270 1.6 Ghz/ два процессора по 800)
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !ru > air
[16:01] <mo> Jack_Sparrow, n8tus, no its domething related to the lookup, if i enter ip adresses its working quite fast.
[16:02] <mo> n8tus, ipv6 is disabled
[16:02] <n8tus> mo then correct your name resolving system
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mo Isnt that what I asked
[16:02] <zerberuz> Have some wierd installation problems with ubuntu 8.04.... it just keep reading and reding the CD
[16:02] <TAndriamirado> @ubottu thanks for the link, I knew that upgrading from 7.10 to 8.10 is not advised.. but I lost my hardy CD, and I think Ubuntu 'd allow version skipping
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> TAndriamirado, No skipping
[16:02] <_polto_> n8tus: my device use spair pairs to power the camera. The fact is that I need to disconnect and reconnect the network (and power) cable to reboot the camera and put it in to the flashing mode. But then I disconnect the cable NM shutdown the network interface.
[16:02] <mo> Jack_Sparrow, and i confirmed it ?!!?
[16:02] <omar> They told me: "This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine " is not installed
[16:03] <geeksquad> i only have a static ip for my modem
[16:03] <mo> n8tus, why is a manual look up then really fast ?
[16:03] <Clockswork> Hello people! Is there any good textbased typing games for Ubuntu?
[16:03] <n8tus> _polto_ -> you are using a non-standard connectivity, so you have to find clever ways to get around it
[16:03] <Jeruvy> geeksquad: doesn't matter
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mo no its domething related to the lookup     .. didnt seem like the right response, but I dont mean to split hairs
[16:03] <geeksquad> and whats vncveiwer
[16:03] <TAndriamirado> @n8tus yeah, I need the latest drivers for my Dell XPS M1330, latest desktop softs without having to compile them, I need a 'stable' Intrepid Ibex as a devel box for softs to b released
[16:03] <Jeruvy> mo: Do you have a dynamic IP from your ISP?
[16:03] <geeksquad> i dont have it
[16:04] <mo> Jeruvy, sure
[16:04] <bunny> nmap -PNNmap host tell me that port 80 open with service HTTP can i use it to get internet acess? ?
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> TAndriamirado, If you have the drive space.. dual boot
[16:04] <mo> Jeruvy, well, my router has ..
[16:04] <Jeruvy> mo: did you hard code your DNS settings ?
[16:04] <_polto_> n8tus: ok, I will make some more tests and come back here with a better problem description.
[16:04] <tiyowan> mo: Sorry, I missed your problem. Could you please repeat it?
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> tiyowan, slow dns lookup
[16:04] <mo> tiyowan, principly dns resolve is slow
[16:05] <tiyowan> mo: Do use OpenDNS?
[16:05] <n8tus> mo which host are you trying to  resolve?  and what is the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:05] <bunny> nmap -PNNmap host tells me that port 80 open with service HTTP can i use it to get internet acess? ?
[16:05] <tiyowan> mo: A pastebin of your /etc/resolv.conf would be great to look at as well.
[16:06] <TAndriamirado> @Jack_Sparrow I don't have drive space ;-( well it seems I have to upgrade to hardy first.. thanks for your advises
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:06] <geeksquad> # Generated by NetworkManager
[16:06] <geeksquad> nameserver 192.168.1.254
[16:06] <recon69> ﻿_polto_ : you might want to disable network manager as it does try to keep a connection open all the time. It might be interfering when you lose connection
[16:06] <geeksquad> thts the contents
[16:06] <icar_> nas
[16:06] <icar_> alguien habla español?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[16:07] <max06> good evening
[16:07] <_polto_> recon69: I do not want to disable it as I use it for Wifi, but it would be nice to make it not react to cable connection/disconnection.
[16:07] <kizer> Hi
[16:07] <bunny> eveee
[16:08] <Pandemic187> soo..anyone?
[16:08] <tripchronic_> !emulators
[16:08] <max06> Is it possible to tell Dolphin that it must use the mount-option "nounix" when mounting smb-shares?
[16:08] <geeksquad> i got vncveiwer and did you command replacing with my ip and says all the info and nothing
[16:08] <mo> tiyowan, n8tus : http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/393648/
[16:08] <bunny> me!!!
[16:08] <kizer> I was wondering... what would be a programming language best suited for extending applications
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bunny, Please stop
[16:08] <_Cid> !paste
[16:08] <bunny> okie..
[16:08] <tripchronic_> what is the best virtual machine again
[16:08] <tripchronic_> qubut?
[16:09] <Pici> kizer: It depends per application, and a better place to discuss it would be #ubuntu-offtoic
[16:09] <Pici> !best > tripchronic_
[16:09] <ushimitsudoki> Pandemic187: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1029016
[16:09] <n8tus> mo and which host you want to get resolved?
[16:09] <tripchronic_> i forget the name
[16:09] <kizer> right
[16:09] <kizer> it's also way to busy here
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, virtualbox?
[16:09] <mo> n8tus, well it takes long with all hosts
[16:09] <tripchronic_> mmm
[16:09] <tripchronic_> it was two things
[16:09] <kizer> too many other off topic people here
[16:09] <tripchronic_> that worked together
[16:09] <n8tus> mo can you not be more specific? get me one, so i can test it
[16:09] <tripchronic_> virtual machine run by kernel
[16:09] <Pandemic187> ah...thanks ushimitsudoki, i should have checked the forums
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> kizer, And your comments dont help that
[16:10] <mo> n8tus, everything the same use google.com
[16:10] <Jeruvy> _polto_: I find using a managed POE switch is far better suited to POE camera's.  Otherwise kill any auto-config tools on your server.  You may find your manufacturer has some suggestions.
[16:11] <n8tus> mo are you sure nameserver 10.156.33.53  exist?  try to use dig and use that as your resolver
[16:11] <Clockswork> Hello people! Is there any good textbased typing games for Ubuntu?
[16:11] <sarmisak> tripchronic_, are you looking for openvz?
[16:11] <bunny> should i leave :(
[16:11] <sarmisak> tripchronic_, it does do virtualisation by kernel
[16:11] <tiyowan> mo: You're on the university network right?
[16:11] <mo> tiyowan,  not now
[16:11] <geeksquad> n8tus: so i did you command (with my ip) and nothing happened and five minutes later i timed out
[16:11] <tripchronic_> not exactly
[16:12] <mo> shouldnt the resolv conf update itself?
[16:12] <tripchronic_> it started with a q lol
[16:12] <n8tus> geeksquad -> what were you doing? its been far too long since i commented to you
[16:12] <tiyowan> mo: And let me guess...when you're on the uni network, everything works fine?
[16:12] <_polto_> Jeruvy: POE switch is not an option. I have many of them, but our customers who buy a single camera with a POE injector and Ubuntu LiveCD need a solution.
[16:12] <tripchronic_> KVM
[16:12] <tripchronic_> that its
[16:12] <tripchronic_> and the other thing
[16:13] <Jeruvy> _polto_: thats why I suggest seeking the manufacturer of you camera.  Pelco for instance has some very good solutions for this.
[16:13] <mo> tiyowan, nope same probs there
[16:13] <n8tus> mo are you sure nameserver 10.156.33.53  exist?  try to use dig and use that as your resolver
[16:13] <mo> tiyowan, otherwiese i would have mentioned that before
[16:13] <tripchronic_> KVM and QEMU
[16:13] <_polto_> Jeruvy: I am the manufacturer :)
[16:13] <tripchronic_> :)
[16:13] <hstpojken> hej hur mar du? tala svenska?
[16:13] <mo> n8tus, on that allready , a second please
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > tripchronic_
[16:13] <geeksquad> i installed vncveiwer did this command vncveiwer (my modems ip)
[16:13] <jackmcbarn> i found a guide that looks like it might work, but the openvz kernel is old
[16:13] <tiyowan> mo: Hmm...I think n8tus is pointing you in the right direction.
[16:13] <citybird> got it had to compile everything from scratch
[16:13] <_polto_> Jeruvy: and it's not related to the camera , but to NM.
[16:13] <hstpojken> jag är fran umea
[16:13] <mo> tiyowan, hope so :)
[16:14] <geeksquad> and nothing then it said my connection timed out
[16:14] <hstpojken> varifran kommer du?
[16:14] <__MAV> Hello Everybody!
[16:14] <_polto_> Jeruvy:  NM disconnect network then no cable is present.
[16:14] <Pici> !de | hstpojken
[16:14] <Knight_Lord> update-grub seems to be changing the #groot option. What can I do to avoid this?
[16:14] <tripchronic_> whats everyones opinions on KVM and QEMU, more effecient then vbose ?
[16:14] <hstpojken> jag tala svenska och du?
[16:14] <_polto_> Jeruvy: www.elphel.com and wiki.elphel.com - our cameras. (network open hardware and free software cameras)
[16:14] <hstpojken> jag tala engelska inte so bra?
[16:14] <hstpojken> nej
[16:14] <__MAV> How can I set 85 Hz refresh rate for my monitor if nvidia-settings shows only 60 Hz ?
[16:14] <hstpojken> ja döda dig
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, This is the wrong chanel for opinions and discussion about better or best
[16:15] <Pici> !sv | hstpojken
[16:15] <allsystemsarego> !se | hstpojken
[16:15] <tripchronic_> Jack_Sparrow sorry
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> hstpojken, English only please
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tripchronic_, np
[16:15] <hstpojken> nej svenska only
[16:15] <tripchronic_> Jack_Sparrow is there a channel on this network for that?
[16:15] <_polto_> Jeruvy: and POE modules an almost every POE device is the same chip.
[16:15] <tiyowan> tripchronic_: The Virtualization section on the Ubuntu Forums has a great thread comparing the different options.
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> hstpojken, /join #ubuntu-se
[16:15] <geeksquad> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <__MAV> How can I set 85 Hz refresh rate for my monitor if nvidia-settings shows only 60 Hz ?
[16:16] <tripchronic_> tiyowan ty
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[16:17] <abuchbinder> Anyone using xchat-gnome who'd like to help diagnose/confirm a bug, please /msg me. I have a test XDCC bot running.
[16:17] <tiyowan> tripchronic_: No worries mate.
[16:17] <tarokun>  I can use LIST in ftp with no problem but not so in telnet: the session freezes after I type LIST.
[16:17] <abuchbinder> Come to think of it, if anyone *not* running xchat-gnome would like to rule out problems with my bot, please also /msg me.
[16:17] <__MAV> How can I set 85 Hz refresh rate for my monitor if nvidia-settings shows only 60 Hz ?
[16:17] <n8tus> _polto_ -> perhaps i mis-understood you, POE uses a different pair of wires to power a device, which side is providing the power? your pc?
[16:17] <geeksquad> oh well n8tus your method did not work
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> __MAV, Please hold down on the repeats
[16:18] <_polto_> n8tus: an power injector between the PC and the camera.
[16:18] <mo> n8tus, uh man, none of the nameservers exist but my router (10.0.0.1) ... no its working fine. why is the resolv.conf not updated automaticly?
[16:18] <n8tus> geeksquad -> i dont know what are you referring to? i asked you what were the issues, you are slow in responding to me, you dont include my nick, so I missed your responses
[16:19] <pwizard88> hey...does anyone know how to use the find command to search exclusively for directories?
[16:19] <n8tus> _polto_ -> did you understand what am asking? which is the power source? pc or the device?
[16:19] <Jeruvy> _polto_: I think I'm misunderstanding something also.  Most switches will check your cable, if it's not a POE switch, then you will have issues to resolve.
[16:19] <mo> pwizard88,  find / -type d -iname "*sad*"
[16:19] <n8tus> mo why would the resolv.conf updated automatically?
[16:19] <jake__> can someone tell me how i get ubuntu netbook launcher to start up with my pc? i have installed it from synaptic but i can only run it form the terminal just now
[16:19] <Knight_Lord> update-grub seems to be changing the #groot option. What can I do to avoid this?
[16:20] <Grab> how do i mount my floppy
[16:20] <Grab> ?
[16:20] <mo> n8tus, its written there # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) ... and i never inserted that nameservers there
[16:20] <geeksquad> n8tus: i could not connect i put in the modems ip and nothing happended and after a bit the connection timed out =-O
[16:20] <armornick> hey guys, little question; how compatible are debs between different versions of ubuntu (i.e. 8.04 to 8.10)?
[16:20] <n8tus> mo resolv.conf only gets updated if the dhclient re-request or re-establishes an ip address
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, dont mix em
[16:21] <recon69> ﻿Grab: insert the floppy disk and go to places
[16:21] <jake__> !netbook
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, they will drive you dependency crazy
[16:21] <n8tus> geeksquad -> what is the ip address of your host? what is the ip address of your so called modem?
[16:21] <_polto_> n8tus, Jeruvy, I am using similar device: http://www.voipsupply.com/pw-130 It supply power to the camera and connect network from the camera to the PC transparently .
[16:21] <mo> n8tus, ok but still some old dns serveres were listed there...
[16:21] <mphill> armornick: it depends really on how it was compiled and with which verion of glibc
[16:21] <armornick> say I made a repo-copy with aptoncd and a new version of ubuntu is released, i'd have to make a whole new cd?
[16:22] <tavish> n8tus: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:22] <Grab> recon69,  it doesnt show up
[16:22] <mphill> armornick: for that yes
[16:22] <geeksquad> n8tus: 65.12.230.24 thats the pi
[16:22] <plshelphackadmin> hi
[16:22] <armornick> alright, thanks
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, yes
[16:22] <n8tus> mo that is dependent on your dhcp server .. that it doles out
[16:22] <plshelphackadmin> any one help me
[16:22] <Grab> recon69,  it's formattad as fat32
[16:22] <Grab> what can i do ?
[16:22] <n8tus> tavish i did not asked you...direct it to whomever asked
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, Many files would be the same, but it would be a mess to figure it out
[16:23] <mo> n8tus, all right, thank u for helping me finding the obvious
[16:23] <n8tus> geeksquad -> what is the ip of your pc? your modem?
[16:23] <torero> !ru
[16:23] <pop79> Jack_Sparrow: You are being very helpful! :)
[16:23] <tavish> n8tus: sorry! :)
[16:23] <recon69> ﻿Grab: floppy drive works? other disks load?
[16:23] <NotSure> when I minimize my window it dissapears to the middle of the screen never to be seen again as if I x ed it...  whats up with that
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> pop79, Not really, some think I am a bot
[16:24] <Grab> recon69,  yes
[16:24] <n8tus> mo am glad I clued you in.. hehe...
[16:24] <mo> :-)
[16:24] <pop79> well, i dont believe that Jack_Sparrow!
[16:24] <mo> still a lot to learn ...
[16:24] <geeksquad> n8tus: btw i use att dsl fastaccess
[16:24] <armornick> btw, just out of curiosity, does ubuntu support automounting usb drives if you're in a virtual terminal?
[16:24] <Grab> recon69, mount | grep fd
[16:24] <Grab> is empty
[16:24] <n8tus> geeksquad -> what is the ip of your pc? your modem?  <-- you have not fully answered this
[16:24] <pwizard88> mo: Thanks for that :) . Do you know how to do that using the locate command?
[16:25] <geeksquad> only the modem has a ip
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> armornick, usb in vm requires a soultion
[16:25] <recon69> Grab: fat32 should not be a problem, looking like the disk might be faulty. you did say that you could mount other floppy disks?
[16:25] <plshelphackadmin> any one help me how do hack shop admin
[16:25] <Grab> recon69,  no
[16:25] <Grab> i dont know what to do
[16:25] <n8tus> !who > geeksquad
[16:25] <Grab> recon69, :(
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !piracy > plshelphackadmin
[16:26] <NotSure>  when I minimize my window it disappears to the middle of the screen never to be seen again as if I x ed it...  whats up with that
[16:26] <n8tus> geeksquad -> do this on your pc,    ifconfig  and tell us what is the ip address assigned to eth0 ?
[16:26] <pwizard88> Hey, does anyone know how to search for directories using the locate command?
[16:26] <Dr_willis> NotSure,  try alt-tab - seeif it shows up in the list
[16:26] <pop79> !piracy >plshelphackadmin
[16:26] <Stef1> I just noticed something strange, don't know if it is normal...
[16:26] <Stef1> In usr/bin There are 15 x11 maps that all contain the same as usr/bin ?
[16:26] <Stef1> should I delete those?
[16:27] <geeksquad> n8tus: 192.168.1.2
[16:27] <recon69> Grab: well, been so long since i used a floppy disk not familiar with them any more. you could check your drive by tring to boot from it , see if the bios detects the floppy
[16:27] <Grab> init A: non DOS media
[16:27] <Grab> Cannot initialize 'A:'
[16:27] <Grab> mdir output above
[16:27] <Pici> !enter
[16:28] <n8tus> geeksquad -> then why are you trying to connect to  65.12.230.24  ?
[16:28] <mo> pwizard88, uhh no i don't.. it's not possible i think, why not using find ?
[16:28] <pwizard88> anyone?
[16:28] <geeksquad> thts the modems ip which is unique 192.168.1.2 in not
[16:28] <plshelphackadmin> HEllo
[16:28] <NotSure> Dr_Willis  Thanks.. It looks like there were 4 or 5 windows left open for quite a while....  So how do I fix this issue so I can see the windows on the taskbar when I minimize them?? I'm using kde 4.1.3
[16:28] <n8tus> geeksquad -> you need to learn about NAT  and port forwarding
[16:28] <plshelphackadmin> any one help me
[16:29] <tiyowan> All right folks, I'm off. Time to dive into Perl.
[16:29] <pwizard88> mo, sometimes find takes too much time
[16:29] <n8tus> geeksquad -> is english your native tongue?
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> plshelphackadmin, We dont support hacking or oter questionable activities
[16:29] <geeksquad> yes
[16:29] <NotSure> dr_Willis   woooops   3.5
[16:30] <nroot7> Why do many tutorials suggest using cpio command than tar command for archiving? Has it something to do with file permissions being copied or not?
[16:30] <n8tus> !who | geeksquad
[16:30] <usr13> Jack_Sparrow: You should qualify "hacking" as "malicious hacking"  :-)
[16:30] <geeksquad> n* i know
[16:30] <Dr_willis> NotADJ,  sounds like the task-pager-applet thing proberly crashed.
[16:30] <Dr_willis> oops not i ment NotSure
[16:30] <mo> pwizard88, thats right though
[16:31] <mo> pwizard88, but i don't know an option for locate ... if google might know one.. ?
[16:32] <pwizard88> mo, tried google....haven't found any....read the man as well
[16:32] <pwizard88> I sometimes feel that locate should be made more advanced
[16:32] <rjune> nroot7, tar will copy perms as well
[16:32] <usr13> pwizard88: Use find
[16:32] <rjune> whois geeksquad
[16:32] <pwizard88> (or probably I don't know how to use it :) )
[16:33] <pwizard88> usr13: find sometimes take too much time
[16:33] <mo> pwizard88, so its maybe just not possible
[16:33] <N1ckR> How long would it take to fsck a 1tb drive with ext3 ?
[16:33] <pwizard88> mo yeah I think so too
[16:33] <Clockswork> Hello people! Is there any good textbased typing games for Ubuntu?
[16:33] <mo> N1ckR,  a few minutes more
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !games
[16:34] <Seveas> Clockswork, vim can be a real typing challenge :)
[16:34] <geeksquad> N1ckR: a lot of time my 16 GB drive took 20 minutes
[16:34] <Mythril> anyone here familiar with system76 willing to tell me where I can get info on the driver's updates?
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> N1ckR,  A lot of variables.. how many partitions, what errors it finds and tries to correct etc.
[16:35] <Grab> how do i format an unmounted floppy ?
[16:35] <usr13> pwizard88: Locate is faster but is limited to the time of last updatedb so that you might miss what you are looking for, (if it is new).
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !umount
[16:35] <Clockswork> Seveas: vim? Allright I'll check it out
[16:35] <N1ckR> It will be a 1tb partition ideally
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Seveas .. vim.. cute
[16:35] <N1ckR> sata drive, nothing fancy like raid
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> N1ckR, I would not have a single tb partition
[16:36] <N1ckR> True, but this is a media drive
[16:36] <geeksquad> oh
[16:36] <usr13> pwizard88: If one needs to first updatedb and then use locate, the time element is the same as using find
[16:36] <Seveas> Clockswork, vim isn't really a game, it's a very powerful text editor. That power comes at a cost though and it can be hard to get used to, hence the 'challenge' it is :)
[16:36] <geeksquad> thought it was scsi
[16:36] <jbAnotado> hi all!
[16:36] <Seveas> hi jbAnotado
[16:36] <pwizard88> usr13: true...but I often face cases where I don't need updatedb to be latest
[16:36] <jbAnotado> How will i change the color of motion?
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !find pyletters
[16:37] <pwizard88> usr13: in such cases, it's really useful
[16:37] <Seveas> jbAnotado, a can of paint should do
[16:37] <jbAnotado> its color changes like blue to orange
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !find Klavaro
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !info Klavaro
[16:38] <Seveas> useful ^_^
[16:38] <Grab> !find help
[16:38] <jbAnotado> Seveas: I tried using camorama and there's an option there "color correction" and it worked, but on motion it does not
[16:38] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, it's probably case-sensitive
[16:38] <Grab> how do i format an unmounted floppy ?
[16:38] <Grab> please help
[16:38] <horstle> hi
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !info klavaro
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[16:39] <Seveas> jbAnotado, ah, now you start making sense. Unfortunately I won't be able to help, sorry :(
[16:39] <recon69> Grab: when you insert the floppy , do you get an icon on the desktop?
[16:39] <Grab> nothing!!
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Grab,   sudo  mkfs.XXX  /dev/fd0    Perhaps.. from ages ago i rember that.
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Clockswork,  did you catch that
[16:39] <usr13> Grab: fdformat
[16:39] <akahige1> running the scroll wheel on my usb mouse seems to cause video lag if I'm playing a movie. this has never happened before and I'm trying to figure out how to diagnose. anyone got any ideas?
[16:39] <Grab> ok
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Grab,  where XXX is the proper filesystem you want to format it to
[16:39] <Grab> ok
[16:39] <Grab> thjank you very much!
[16:40] <Grab> linux is a pain
[16:40] <Seveas> Dr_willis, ext2 or fat12 for floppies ;)
[16:40] <usr13> Grab: But yes, the GUI will kick in and you can point and click your way through the process of formatting a floppy disk.
[16:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !info klavaro > Clockswork
[16:40] <mphill> Grab: it's just different
[16:40] <Dr_willis> Grab,  i was just thinking how floppies are a pain.
[16:40] <Seveas> Dr_willis, when did you last use one?
[16:40] <Seveas> I sure can't remember when I did
[16:40] <Dr_willis> Grab,   and how windows is constantly asking me for 'format' my linux drives.. because it cant understand that there are other filesystems out there.
[16:41] <gnx> hi
[16:41] <gnx> i have a problem whit my latop
[16:41] <Seveas> hi gnx
[16:41] <Dr_willis> Seveas,  i removed one from a pc a few weeks ago. :)  it was actually inside the case in a drive bay for some reason - with a disk in it.. not sure what the point in it was.
[16:41] <usr13> Grab: Thumb drives have superseeded floppies
[16:41] <nroot7> rjune: thanks
[16:41] <Seveas> Dr_willis, that's cheating. You didn't actually use it ;)
[16:41] <Dr_willis> 2gb thumbdrives for $5 ive seen.
[16:41] <gnx> the problem is tha mi lector of memory card sd/mmc only runing how root ouser
[16:42] <usr13> Grab: Thumb drive - as in USB Flash Memory Device
[16:42] <Dr_willis> Seveas,  Yep. I think it had some windiws 95 boot stuff  on it - the guy used as a rescue.
[16:42] <Grab> floppy --format A:
[16:42] <Grab> doenst work either
[16:42] <Clockswork> Jack_Sparrow: Sry no did you say something?
[16:42] <Grab>  sudo  mkfs.ext3  /dev/fd0
[16:42] <Grab> mke2fs 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
[16:42] <Grab> /dev/fd0 is not a block special device.
[16:42] <Grab> Proceed anyway? (y,n) ^C
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Clockswork  Try klavaro
[16:42] <FloodBot3> Grab: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <Clockswork> Jack_Sparrow:  Thanks :D
[16:42] <Seveas> ubuntu live cd has superseeded that Dr_willis ;)
[16:42] <BDI> Question, how does ubuntu plan on responding to Windows 7?
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Grab, You were asked before to NOT do that
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !info klavaro
[16:43] <BDI> I propose a name change Ubuntu 8
[16:43] <Seveas> BDI, why would o 'respond' to it?
[16:43] <Dr_willis> Grab,  it may not be /dev/fd0 any more.. it may be /dev/floppy or somthing.. i dont have a single floppy system to even check.
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Clockswork, It took me a minute to find the name
[16:43] <Grab> my floppy is not mounted!
[16:43] <Seveas> BDI, why would we need to 'respond' to it? (keyboard failure)
[16:43] <BDI> Seveas, because it's grabbing all the headlines
[16:43] <danilo> que es esto
[16:43] <rutski_> is it possible to get a /dev/lp on Ubuntu; or to use lpr?
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> danilo, Ubuntu support in english
[16:43] <usr13> Grab: what are you trying to do?   Mount it or format it?
[16:44] <Seveas> BDI, it's grabbing XKCD as well. Made me chuckle and call Godwin :)
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[16:44] <Grab> Usr mount it and format
[16:44] <Grab> usr13,
[16:44] <Dr_willis> rutski,  i was thinking the cups tools sort of  did that allready. at least the lpr command did.. i recall using it a year+ ago.
[16:44] <Seveas> Grab, you can't format mounted disks
[16:44] <usr13> Grab: format first, then mount.
[16:44] <Grab> im super confused
[16:44] <Grab> what should i do then
[16:44] <Grab> i want to format
[16:44] <Grab> ok
[16:44] <usr13> Grab: fdformat /dev/fd0
[16:44] <recon69> Grab: why you want to use a floppy for any way?
[16:45] <BDI> Seveas, keyboard failure? I don't get it?
[16:45] <Dr_willis> 12+ ways to format a floppy :)
[16:45] <Seveas> BDI, my keyboard failed to transmit all letters I typed, that's why I retyped my question
[16:45] <Grab> /dev/fd0 doesnt exist
[16:45] <BDI> Surely Windows 7 will damage Ubuntu. Vista probably made it stronger but Windows 7 will undo all that hard work.
[16:45] <Seveas> BDI, we
[16:45] <Seveas> BDI, we'll see
[16:45] <usr13> Grab: Is your floppy disk drive plugged in and powered?
[16:45] <Grab> yes
[16:46] <Dr_willis> Grab,  you sure the bios even sees the thing? i had a pc with a floppy once.. but the floppy controller was disabled in bios, or the wires were backwards
[16:46] <stdin> BDI: we're already have Ubuntu 8.10, and soon Ubuntu 9.04
[16:46] <Grab> yes floppy does work with windoes
[16:46] <armornick> BDI, people are still working with XP, they can't cope with change
[16:46] <usr13> Grab: fdisk -l |grep fd
[16:46] <BDI> Yeah. Will be interesting
[16:46] <recon69> Grab: looking more and more like you floppy drive is not working, have you checked the cables , does a light flash on the drive when you insert a disk?
[16:46] <Grab> fdisk -l |grep fd => no result
[16:46] <Seveas> armornick, that's largely because vista sucks. 7 shows promise
[16:46] <Grab> recon69,  if i reboot to windows it  will work
[16:46] <Dr_willis> Grab,  use 'sudo fdisk -l ' not just 'fdisk -l'
[16:47] <Grab> ok
[16:47] <Grab> still nothing
[16:47] <Dr_willis> im not even sure if fdisk -l will show floppys anyway :)
[16:47] <Dr_willis> One normally does not partition a floppy disk.
[16:47] <armornick> Seveas, true, but it still looks like vista
[16:47] <Seveas> Dr_willis, they do have partition tables though. But you will need to fdisk -l /dev/fd0
[16:48] <Dr_willis> i recall partitionng my LS120 disks years ago. :)
[16:48] <emilyg> hey guys
[16:48] <emilyg> I have a v4l cameria, skype aparently only likes v4l2 webcams. Ive looked all over for a way to get skyp to read the v4l only webcams but cant find anything..anyone have this problem?
[16:48] <Seveas> hi emilyg
[16:48] <usr13> Grab: Do you have only one floppy drive in the machine?
[16:48] <Grab> yes
[16:49] <usr13> Grab: Then try fdformat /dev/fd1
[16:49] <Dr_willis> dmesg command may show what device the floppy is, or may show some info when a disk is inserted
[16:50] <Seveas> Dr_willis, dmesg won't show that it's inserted cause floppy drives won't tell that
[16:50] <Seveas> Grab, maybe the floppy driver isn't loaded, sudo modprobe floppy
[16:50] <FischKopp> Hi, Just trying to install Ubuntu 64Bit on my new acer Notebook but the partition tool doesn't show any partitions on my HDD although there are 3 of them... :/
[16:50] <Dr_willis> Seveas,  :) im rembering my old Amiga days then - when  the disks did   notify when changed.
[16:50] <Grab> sudo modprobe floppy WORKED!
[16:51] <Grab> wow
[16:51] <Grab> thanks
[16:51] <kahrgan> I am having issues with scp / rsync. I am copying a file over the network, it says its completed, but it copies nothing. (cp also copies nothing (when i mounted the remote file and tried just a cp)
[16:51] <genii-around> FischKopp: Is it a BSD partitoned drive?
[16:51] <Seveas> Dr_willis, yes, good old amiga did tell you I believe. Same for mac. Just the "IBM PC COMPATIBLE" didn't and still don't :)
[16:51] <mamat_> hi, any ideas why qcad (which seems to use qt) does not show my default printer (shows other which i dont use, all other apps i've tried show all printers)
[16:51] <Dr_willis> Seveas,  How Primitive of MS. :)
[16:51] <Seveas> Grab, that just loaded a driver. It didn't format anything but your /dev/fd0 should exist now
[16:51] <Seveas> Dr_willis, IBM actually ;)
[16:52] <Dr_willis> Grab,  ls -l /dev/fd*
[16:52] <FischKopp> genii-around: No, There are 2 60GB NTFS partitions: One with Windows, the other empty. The 3rd is a hidden recovery Thingy.
[16:52] <Dr_willis> Grab,  and see what exists
[16:52] <Grab> it exists!
[16:52] <Grab> why is ubuntu so dumb ?
[16:52] <Dr_willis> Grab,  its not.  go back to windows if you want..
[16:52] <MOUD> Hey again
[16:52] <luigi> join #ubuntu-it
[16:52] <Seveas> Grab, no need to start insulting... we just helped you solve something
[16:52] <Grab> im not insulting
[16:53] <Seveas> Grab, of course, if you don't want more hel, you're free to leave
[16:53] <Grab> instead i thank god you exist Seveas
[16:53] <Dr_willis> Grab,   yes you are...
[16:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[16:53] <Dr_willis> the system shouldent just load EVERY module out there - in case it  you might have some hardware..
[16:53] <Grab> but why does ubuntu not load the floppy drive?
[16:53] <mamat_> you still have a floppy drive??
[16:53] <Dr_willis> Grab,  because it cant tell if you have an actualy floppy installed or not.
[16:53] <Seveas> Grab, that might be a bug :)
[16:53] <omnydevi> lol
[16:53] <Vi5in> Hello, are the 180 nvidia drivers available for hardy?
[16:53] <Grab> :)
[16:54] <Dr_willis> Grab,  and given how few people have them these days..
[16:54] <Dr_willis> !modules
[16:54] <Seveas> Dr_willis, that's why the floppy module should always be loaded. Of course almost nobody tests that nowadays :)
[16:54] <usr13> Grab: I did not realize this, but the floppy module has been depreciated - which is to say that it is not loaded by default.
[16:54] <MOUD> I have downloaded some plugins for aMSN but I cannot copy/paste files onto /usr/share/amsn/plugins , how can I add permission to that folder?
[16:54] <Dr_willis> Seveas,  with that logic theres 100+ modules that should alwo be loaded. :)
[16:54] <Grab> ok usr13
[16:54] <Abed> hey guys wanna ask quick question, how i wanna make a shortcut folder on desktop and the link target is /mnt/src for example and i wanna do it using the terminal
[16:54] <usr13> Grab: Because of the fact that floppy disks are rarely used now days.
[16:55] <Grab> i see
[16:55] <Vi5in> Does anyone know what the latest nvidia driver is for hardy?
[16:55] <Seveas> Dr_willis, that's actually not true. Apart from floppy drives and (god forbid) non-pnp ISA cards, all is discoverable
[16:55] <usr13> Grab: So it's not so much a retardation as it is an advancement.
[16:55] <Vi5in> i trie using nvidia's installed for 180.22, but i ran into a lot of issues with the driver
[16:55] <mamat_> any ideas why qcad (which seems to use qt) does not show my default printer (shows other which i dont use, all other apps i've tried show all printers)
[16:55] <Vi5in> i'm wondering if it's just a hardy issue
[16:55] <FischKopp> genii-around: No, There are 2 60GB NTFS partitions: One with Windows, the other empty. The 3rd is a hidden recovery Thingy (~10GB). (2nd)
[16:55] <Dr_willis> Seveas,    butthat will add like.. .00000000000001+ sec to the boot time! we cant have that. :P
[16:55] <dman> morning folks
[16:55] <Abed> hey guys wanna ask quick question, how i wanna make a shortcut folder on desktop and the link target is /mnt/src for example and i wanna do it using the terminal
[16:55] <medoctron> does anyone how to configure edge switching in openbox
[16:55] <MOUD> Vi5in: 177 works fine with me
[16:55] <Dr_willis> Abed,  use the 'ln -s' command with the proper arguments
[16:56] <Abed> thnx Dr_willis
[16:56] <Seveas> Abed, ln -s /mnt/src ~/Desktop/foobar
[16:56] <MOUD> just use Synaptic Package manager and download it, and add the Nvidia X server settings too
[16:56] <genii-around> FischKopp: OK. If you issue from Terminal:  sudo fdisk -l               does it show them?
[16:56] <usr13> Abed: cd Desktop ; ln -s /mnt/scr src
[16:56] <omnydevi> 177 breaks my graphics like all hell. had to stick with 173
[16:57] <recon69> mhh, not a good start getting 8.10 to load on acer aspire 6930g , hangs after checking battery
[16:57] <bthornton> I just changed the hostname of a box I'm SSH'd into by changing /etc/hostname. I plan on rebooting the machine and then SSH'ing back into it. Will I have any problems doing that, or will the hostname change cause problems with key negotiation?
[16:57] <kahrgan> I am having issues with scp / rsync. I am copying a file over the network, it says its completed, but it copies nothing. (cp also copies nothing (when i mounted the remote file and tried just a cp)
[16:57] <MOUD> omnydevi: hey, how's the driver working now
[16:57] <omnydevi> i would make sure you know what to do if you upgrade your graphics driver and your system doesnt come back up with a gui
[16:57] <omnydevi> 173 owns
[16:57] <Seveas> bthornton, why reboot? You can use the hostname command to change the hostname as well
[16:57] <mamat_> any ideas why qcad (which seems to use qt) does not show my default printer (shows other which i dont use, all other apps i've tried show all printers) how could i go about debuging that?
[16:57] <omnydevi> 177 doesnt work at all
[16:57] <usr13> kahrgan: Are you sure?
[16:57] <MTecknology> Seveas: Hi! me hugs
[16:58] <Seveas> mamat_, (if noone in here knows, try #kubuntu)
[16:58] <Seveas> hi MTecknology
[16:58] <kahrgan> usr13: yes, no new files are added when i complete the cp/rsync/scp commands
[16:58] <bthornton> Seveas: True, but this machine isn't on a UPS and will end up being rebooted eventually anyway. I just want to make sure I can SSH into it when it does.
[16:58] <Vi5in> MOUD: that's for hardy?
[16:58] <omnydevi> i tried to upgrade to 177 a few days ago. took a little bit of tinkering to get it back up :)
[16:58] <mamat_> Seveas: thx
[16:58] <Seveas> bthornton, you can :)
[16:58] <bthornton> ok good. here goes...
[16:58] <kahrgan> usr13: in example, heres the output : cp: omitting directory `/home/kahrgan/PublicShare/Pictures'
[16:58] <MOUD> Vi5in: don't know for sure, let me check
[16:58] <Vi5in> i'm running 180.17 (beta) I ran 180.22 after downloading the run file from nvidia and i had a LOT of issues
[16:59] <usr13> kahrgan: Ok there is your problem.
[16:59] <Seveas> kahrgan, cp -a or scp -r, or rsync -av
[16:59] <genii-around> FischKopp: This nick leaving, respond to genii please
[16:59] <sav1o> hi, how can ubuntu 8.10 provide alleyoop 9.0.3 when the latest version available in the website is 9.0.2?
[16:59] <Seveas> kahrgan, cp/scp/rsync don't recurse into directories by default
[16:59] <usr13> kahrgan: cp by default will copy only files.
[16:59] <omnydevi> i might try 180.17 when i get home for the heck of it
[16:59] <Vi5in> i'm still running hardy because after  upgraded tointrepid i got bizarre lockups. which had to do with the 177 driver i think
[16:59] <Seveas> sav1o, time travel
[16:59] <Seveas> !info alleyoop
[16:59] <sav1o> Seveas: sure :)
[16:59] <MTecknology> I want to stop using an encrypted setup. If I stick with just the Private directory created during install, do I need to worry about any of the data showing up and sticking in swap or /tmp ?
[16:59] <FischKopp> genii-around: No, sudo fdisk -l doesn't seem do anything.
[17:00] <usr13> kahrgan: man cp reveals  -r  copy directories recursively
[17:00] <usr13> copy directories recursively
[17:00] <sav1o> Seveas: check the website :) alleyoop.sf.net there aint no 9.0.3-2
[17:00] <krishnan> at what age should I buy my daughter a computer?
[17:00] <Seveas> usr13, -a is usually preferrable over -r (preserves more)
[17:00] <Vi5in> i can only find 169 in nvidia-glx-new and 1777 on nvidia-glx-new-envy
[17:00] <usr13> Seveas: Thanks for info.
[17:00] <Seveas> krishnan, whenever you think she's ready for it. But please stick to ubuntu support in this channel
[17:01] <FischKopp> genii: No, sudo fdisk -l doesn't seem do anything.
[17:01] <usr13> krishnan: How old are you now?  :)
[17:01] <Seveas> usr13, lol, didn't read the question that way ;)
[17:01] <Abed> thnx Dr_willis and usr13
[17:01] <MOUD> Vi5in: hardy on 177 I don't know, but 173.xx supports as far as is written on a forum
[17:01] <kahrgan> usr13: ah-ha! got it, thanks
[17:01] <usr13> kahrgan: Do it before you get to old to enjoy her computer exploits.  :)  Sorry couldn'r reisist...
[17:01] <Vi5in> so 173 works on hardy hmm
[17:02] <Vi5in> well i'll just go grab 173 from nvidia then
[17:02] <Seveas> usr13, (he left ;))
[17:02] <kahrgan> usr13: im setting it up so my laptop syncs music/pics/scripts everytime i boot
[17:02] <kahrgan> usr13: what?
[17:02] <genii> FischKopp: Odd. Did it give any groaning about not finding the cdrom, or to insert the cdrom, etc during install?
[17:02] <MOUD> Vi5in: ok then
[17:02] <MOUD> omnydevi: is your video card SLI ?
[17:02] <usr13> kahrgan: I have a 6 year old grand daughter that is enjoying her linux PC quite a bit. She even calls me on Skype from time to time.
[17:02] <Seveas> kahrgan, you were caught in a <tab> completion error. usr13 meant krishnan
[17:03] <Seveas> usr13, you're talking to the wrong guy ;)
[17:03] <Vi5in> MOUD: thanks for the help!
[17:03] <kahrgan> usr13:  add a kr before u tab :P
[17:03] <usr13> kahrgan: Sorry wong person.
[17:03] <kahrgan> errm, too many k's
[17:03] <wolter> hi
[17:03] <wolter> my webcam is not working.
[17:03] <kahrgan> !hello | wolter
[17:03] <MOUD> Vi5in: you're welcome
[17:04] <FoxKilo4> How do I find which Video drivers I'm using.Is there a Device Manager type of app?
[17:04] <MOUD> I have downloaded some plugins for aMSN but I cannot copy/paste files onto /usr/share/amsn/plugins , how can I add permission to that folder?
[17:04] <wolter> ubottu, kahrgan, thanks!
[17:04] <kahrgan> seveas maybe im missing it. Is there a way to ignore existing files when CP'ing
[17:04] <Seveas> FoxKilo4, system -> admin -> system monitor has something I believe
[17:05] <Seveas> kahrgan, yes, it's called "use rsync for incremental updates/backups"
[17:05] <wolter> i need to fix my webcam!
[17:05] <recon69> wolter: dance around you computer with you hands in the air, might fix it :P , or you could give a few more clues
[17:05] <FischKopp> genii: No. It just had a few "buffer I/O error"s and AFAIR some problems with DMA transfers during boot from CD. But it tested the CD ok and I'm actually typing from the life CD I'm currently trying to install from.
[17:05] <Seveas> !doesn't work | wolter
[17:05] <kahrgan> seveas same -a flag?
[17:06] <wolter> recon69, well, it doesn't work. Cheese does not show any images. What information can i give you, like with term commands or such
[17:06] <wolter> ?
[17:06] <Seveas> kahrgan, rsync -av /path/to/source/ /path/to/dest (trailing slash after source is important)
[17:06] <jacekowski> wolter: start with model and make
[17:06] <recon69> wolter: os version, computer model , program you tring to use
[17:06] <wolter> jacekowski, recon69: xps m1530, ubuntu 8.10
[17:07] <wolter> recon69, and cheese
[17:07] <FoxKilo4> :Seveas Tks but don't see anything there
[17:07] <genii> FischKopp: Please use the pastebin service to show us the result of:  dmesg         command from the Terminal
[17:07] <genii> !paste | FischKopp
[17:07] <Seveas> wolter, and type 'dmesg' to see if the computer sees it (search for v4l)
[17:07] <Seveas> wolter, and make sure there's no usb hub between the webcam and the computer
[17:07] <Seveas> !webcam
[17:08] <Seveas> FoxKilo4, sorry, where?
[17:08] <wolter> Seveas, well, it is built-in, if that is what you mean...
[17:09] <Seveas> wolter, well, can't get much closer then :)
[17:09] <kahrgan> seveas thanks, -av was what i was missing before
[17:09] <wolter> Seveas, indeed.
[17:09] <Seveas> wolter, the lsusb command should be able to tell you the make and model. The lsmod command should list v4l or v4l2 if the camera is recognized
[17:10] <FoxKilo4> System Monitor,My video is duff since upgrade,trying to get 2 monitors to work with old Radeon 7000 card,worked with 8.04
[17:10] <recon69> wolter: read this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694487 , might give you some ideas
[17:10] <Seveas> ah right
[17:11] <FischKopp> genii: Here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/102831/
[17:11] <wolter> Seveas, isn't lsusb for usb devices?
[17:11] <Seveas> FoxKilo4, try to find out whether you're using vesa, ati or fglrx as driver
[17:11] <Seveas> wolter, correct. Even though the camera is internal, it is almost certainly connected via the usb bus
[17:11]  * CosimO is away: Away
[17:12]  * CosimO is back (gone 00:00:06)
[17:12] <wolter> Seveas, i get a lot of linux foundation root hubs
[17:12] <bobbob1016> Can I get google-desktop to show me results in a nautilus window?
[17:12] <wolter> Seveas, besides that, i get the fingerprint reader, and an omnivision technologies thing
[17:12] <FoxKilo4> Seveas,thats what I'm trying to find out,hence looking for Device Manager type App,
[17:13] <Seveas> wolter, the omnivision is probably your webcam. Did lsmod show you something with v4l?
[17:13] <Seveas> wolf2385, FoxKilo4: I need to leave now, will be back in 15 minutes for more help
[17:14] <RonPaul> (n00b bare with me)  how do i find my ip address?  iwconfig?
[17:14] <recon69> RonPaul: ifconfig
[17:15] <RonPaul> ok thanks
[17:16] <RonPaul> says       inet addr:192.168.0.10  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[17:16] <RonPaul>  
[17:16] <wolter> Seveas, yes it does! i get a v4l1
[17:16] <wolter> Seveas, and a lot of other stuf... some contain uvcvideo
[17:16] <RonPaul> my ip is the inet addr: 192.168.0.10 right?
[17:17] <Dolo> My dvd drive is showing up as cd rom /blue ray and i cant mount any dvds
[17:17] <adminuser> .server irc.knaqu.de
[17:17] <omnydevi> Dolo: can you mount a blueray?
[17:17] <Dolo> i dunno
[17:17] <omnydevi> heh
[17:18] <Dolo> i dont have any blue ray
[17:18] <Dolo> thought it was a regular dvd drive
[17:19] <Dolo> in windows it worked like a regular dvd drive
[17:19] <Dolo> on ubuntu it says
[17:19] <strangeseraph> ?
[17:19] <Dolo> CD-Rom/Blu-ray- RE Drive
[17:19] <strangeseraph> hi
[17:20] <Dolo> is there some kinda driver i need??
[17:21] <codazoda> I tried to update my box today, and have some errors making me nervous.  The first is "linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic: subprocess post-installtion script returned error exist status 1".
[17:21] <Dolo> omnydevi: what u think?
[17:21] <daredevilthere> Hey all
[17:22] <omnydevi> Dolo: not sure sadly mate, most likely wrong driver, but not sure how to troubleshoot it accurately
[17:22] <FischKopp> genii: Still there? The Pastebin URL was http://paste.ubuntu.com/102831/
[17:22] <codazoda> That's followed by a bunch of dependency problems, "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-23-generic: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[17:23] <kestutis> can i fixmbr without Windows CD?
[17:23] <wolter> Seveas, when I do the sudo modprobe gspca, i get a fatal error...
[17:23] <daredevilthere> kestutis: i dont think so
[17:25] <genii> FischKopp: Reading
[17:25] <kestutis> but how to remove ubuntu succesfull if Windows is also installed?
[17:25] <jimmygoon> How do I zero a HD that is broken
[17:25] <FischKopp> genii: k. Thanks.
[17:25] <jimmygoon> like it has problems but I need to make sure it is wiped off
[17:26] <omnydevi> zero - clear all data?
[17:26] <jimmygoon> omnydevi:
[17:26] <jimmygoon>  yes
[17:26] <daredevilthere> kestutis: do u want to remove ubuntu
[17:26] <omnydevi> jimmygoon: hm, best way is to burn it, depending on how bad you never want the data read ever again
[17:26] <kestutis> Yes. I want.
[17:27] <genii> FischKopp: These errors suggest hd failure
[17:27] <Zav> im getting this msg, make -C /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/build M=/home/paul/beta-8187 modules
[17:27] <Zav> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[17:27] <Zav> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[17:27] <Zav> does anyone know why?
[17:27] <FloodBot3> Zav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <genii> FischKopp: Have you done a disk scan from in Windows?
[17:27] <skorasaurus> hi, i'm looking to share some files on intrepid over my network so my flatmate running os x tiger can access them.
[17:28] <omnydevi> jimmygoon: to erase not using fire, i would just take it apart and then just burn the disks
[17:28] <FischKopp> genii: No, not yet. There were no problems in windows.
[17:28] <skorasaurus> I can't find any updated, concise tutorials for this, my google-fu is failing me.
[17:28] <jimmygoon> omnydevi: I'm sending it in for a RMA since the drive failed. I'm not *that* worried about it. I'm dd'ing from /dev/random which I'm guessing will keep going if there are IO errors since those are bound to happen with the drive as dead as it is
[17:28] <daredevilthere> kestutis: by which method have u installed ubuntu?
[17:29] <omnydevi> jimmygoon: is it part of a raid array?
[17:29] <jimmygoon> omnydevi: no
[17:30] <omnydevi> jimmygoon: hm, not sure then exactly. i am sure a simple file shredder would be sufficent enough
[17:30] <rss123> Hello to all
[17:30] <FischKopp> genii: I'm switching to another PC now and'll run some HDD tests on this one.
[17:30] <rss123> Does anybody use Aniword?
[17:30] <rss123> Abiword
[17:30] <daredevilthere> FischKopp: wht are the commands for HDD tests
[17:31] <genii> FischKopp: It is also conceivable that whatever driver it is attempting to use for the chipset controlling the hd is failing in this way. If you set in your bios to have the hd in "compatible" mode (if this option exists), does it give same error ?( also will Windows load)
[17:31] <MOUD> who here uses aMSN?
[17:31] <jimmygoon> hm, I wonder if dd_rescue or ddrescue will ignore IO errors on the destination device.
[17:31] <Seveas> back
[17:32] <avis> anytime i try to zero out a hard drive using dd i get out of memory errors.  (i have 4GB of memory though).  i have a p43 motherboard.  using latest proposed ubuntu kernel.  not sure how to avoid the out of memory errors, i'm hoping there is a way around it.  any ideas ?  again, out of memory errors using dd to zero out a hard drive p43 motherboard
[17:32] <omnydevi> jimmygoon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240856
[17:32] <FischKopp> daredevilthere: I'll use some bootable tool from the HDD manufacturer's page.
[17:32] <daredevilthere> Hey how can i connect to my pc terminal without using remote desktop
[17:33] <Seveas> daredevilthere, ssh?
[17:33] <daredevilthere> Seveas: IS there any other  method 2
[17:33] <jimmygoon> omnydevi: yeah, I think the drive may even be past that point
[17:33] <epoch> is there a way to disable the GDM on startup, so i just boot up to a shell
[17:33] <dereine> benutzt jemand einen wm wie awesome?
[17:33] <dereine> wie verwaltet ihr dort eure wlan... verbindungen
[17:34] <recon69> ﻿wolter: try  ﻿sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[17:34] <omnydevi> jimmygoon: heh, than i would say you are good :)
[17:34] <wolter> recon69, ok
[17:34] <MOUD> How can I make Audio Conversation using aMSN, only video works
[17:34] <wolter> recon69, no output..
[17:34] <daredevilthere> epoch: go to System -> Admiistration -> Login window and disable gui login
[17:35] <recon69> wolter: see if the cam works
[17:35] <kestutis_>  daredevilthere: from live CD, installed,just created / and swap partitions
[17:35] <krishnan> \join #ubuntu-doc
[17:35] <wolter> recon69, it does not, not with cheese.
[17:35] <wolter> recon69, should I add it to the modules and restart?
[17:36] <FischKopp> genii: The SATA controller can run in 2 modes: "IDE" (currently selected) and some other I forgot. That's about everything I can tune in the BIOS settings. I also set a "HDD password" (think that's the ATA password that can lock the HDD)... But this shouldn't be a problem, no?
[17:36] <recon69> wolter: restart should not br required
[17:36] <epoch> daredevilthere, im not seeing "disable gui login" or anything relative in there :(
[17:36] <daredevilthere> Seveas: i want to connect frm laptop to ubuntu pc via bluetooth and use terminal as remota desktop isnt fast for bluetooth
[17:36] <wolter> recon69, and adding to the modules?
[17:36] <epoch> running latest
[17:36] <recon69> wolter: does the camera work with other programs?
[17:36] <wolter> recon69, like which?
[17:36] <wolter> recon69, i have just tested with cheese.
[17:37] <genii> FischKopp: "IDE" would be the one there, but seems already selected then. If possible remove any hardware-level password scheme on the hd
[17:37] <daredevilthere> epoch: wait
[17:37] <sebastien> hello can we configure the screensavers of gnome-screensaver like xscreensaver thanks
[17:37] <wolter> recon69, ekiga says "Your video driver doesn't support the requested video format."
[17:37] <XLV> ubuntu server installs a gui by default or not?
[17:37] <SlimeyPete> not
[17:38] <rss123> Кто работает в Abiword?
[17:38] <FischKopp> genii: K. Will try this. Going offline now.
[17:38] <Pici> !ru | rss123
[17:38] <genii> FischKopp: Is the other option "enhanced"  ?
[17:39] <daredevilthere> epoch:  press alt+ F2 type services-admin and uncheck graphical login manager
[17:40] <recon69> wolter: try install some codex , gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly , and try the test again
[17:41] <epoch> thanks daredevilthere
[17:42] <rinaldi_> hi, I am trying to watch a .mov video (works fine in windows) and when I try to view in any media player, I get a large green horizontal line on the video. Any ideas?
[17:42] <wolter> recon69, plugins ugly is already installed. now,, there are other versions, that sufix m, or dc to that package.
[17:43] <daredevilthere> epoch: ur welcome
[17:43] <epoch> im very new to ubuntu, very old to slackware, how would i remove the entirety of KDE from my system, i tried to use apt-get to install it, and it failed right around kdeaccessibility/kmouth
[17:43] <epoch> i dont want to dirty up this system already, i just installed ubuntu for the first time ever yesterday :(
[17:44] <AJC_Z0> rinaldi_: You don't mention what video play you're using, but often when one player has problems, another won't. Try xine, mplayer or VLC
[17:44] <daredevilthere> epoch: why dont u remove it using dgkp
[17:44] <daredevilthere> epoch: using dpkg
[17:44] <epoch> never knew of it
[17:44] <marek_> hi, how can i connect my laptop with my HSDPA phone via buetooth and networkmanager?
[17:44] <epoch> time to have a look
[17:44] <rinaldi_> AJC_Z0: by any player, I mean I have tried VLC, totem and mplayer, none work
[17:45] <AJC_Z0> rinaldi_: In that case, try a different video display type: XV, x11, GL, etc.
[17:45] <daredevilthere> marek_: if ur cell supports object pust than u can connect it using obexftp
[17:45] <marek_> daredevilthere well it is samsung l760, i managed to connect it and pair with using gnome-conexion
[17:46] <marek_> i can send file sbetween my laptop and mobile
[17:46] <epoch> daredevilthere, everytime -- dpkg: error processing libokularcore1 (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[17:47] <wolter> recon69, so should i add the uvcvideo to the modules thing or not?
[17:47] <d0netsFN> hey i installed mythbuntu and i cant get my mic line in to work for my xbox 360
[17:47] <d0netsFN> i had no probs in windblows or ubuntu
[17:47] <d0netsFN> any idears?
[17:47] <mizipzor> a usb memory stick shows up in lsusb but not in fdisk, what could be the problem?
[17:47] <recon69> wolter: would seem that the camera is loading the driver, but not working with the apps, but my knowledge limited. suggest you ask again for help and try a different program. add uvcvideo to modules after you happy so that it will load next boot
[17:48] <daredevilthere> epoch: paste ur output here and tell me the link http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <julle_> how do i replace a cataloge with another cataloge within the terminal?
[17:48] <evilx> How do i find out the stuff i can pass to apt-get to install something like xfce4 without thunar?
[17:48] <MOUD> I'll be back later, c ya ppl
[17:48] <rinaldi_> d0netsFN: did you install mythbuntu from the CD or did you download the .deb to install on top of ubuntu?
[17:49] <epoch> daredevilthere, http://paste.ubuntu.com/102849/
[17:49] <daredevilthere> evilx: use sudo apt-cache search pakage_name
[17:50] <epoch> daredevilthere, was that aimed at me?
[17:50] <Rikkimaru> I'm attempting to install 64-bit Ubuntu on my computer.  When I insert the install CD and attempt to install, when X starts, all I get is a white screen.  I have an ATI 4870.  Any ideas?
[17:50] <epoch> evilx:
[17:50] <epoch> oh nevermind i see him up there
[17:50] <epoch> =^_^=
[17:50] <evilx> daredevilthere, that a search though, i dont want to install thunar with xfce4
[17:50] <daredevilthere> epoch: try this sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:50] <epoch> sure
[17:51] <epoch> daredevilthere, didnt report anything cleaned
[17:52] <daredevilthere> epoch: c this might help u than http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[17:54] <KDB9000> Hello all. Is there a way I can not have my Ubuntu system save the password when I login to an SSH server using a SSH Key PassPhrase? It doesn't save it for permitly but it saves it until my Ubuntu session is done.
[17:55] <epoch> if i wanted to add another user to my box, by default are they allowed to sudo to root??
[17:55] <evilx> KDB9000, you want key authenication
[17:55] <willie_> hola
[17:55] <epoch> because i was...by default
[17:56] <wolter> !es | willie_
[17:56] <Seveas> epoch, only the user added during install is allowed to do that by default
[17:56] <daredevilthere> epoch: only 1st added user is allowd to use sudo rest are not added
[17:56] <epoch> Seveas, figured that mightve been it
[17:56] <recon69> epoch: only if they know the root password
[17:56] <epoch> thanks
[17:56] <epoch> the root password was never set!
[17:56] <epoch> i dont get it :<
[17:56] <daredevilthere> epoch: ya its locked
[17:56] <willie_> how can i use yahoo messenger with ubuntu
[17:56] <epoch> im used to slack man, i like ubuntu though
[17:56] <evilx> KDB9000, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#Public%20key%20authentication
[17:56] <KDB9000> evilx, What do you mean?
[17:56] <guntbert> recon69: thats not true - there is no root pw set by default
[17:57] <guntbert> epoch: what do want to do?
[17:57] <omnydevi> willie_: applications - internet - pidgin
[17:57] <recon69> guntbert: my mistake, just showing off my ignorance , sorry :)
[17:58] <epoch> this may be far fetched but...does anyone in here have that old 'xlack' script for xchat? it's no longer hosted :(
[17:58] <genii> epoch: The first user whic was created by default has admin rights. Subsequent users which are added do not
[17:58] <epoch> genii, right on
[17:58] <epoch> genii, i tried to install kde, and it epic-failed
[17:58] <KDB9000> evilx, I have already made the keys and have everything install already, that wasn't my question. I want to know how I keep Ubuntu (or it could be Gnome doing it) from storing my PassPhrase for my SSH server until my Ubuntu Session is over. I want it to forget it as soon as I logout.
[17:58] <epoch> almost hung my system, my best guess is GDM & KDM got into a scuffle
[17:58] <evilx> oh
[17:58] <guntbert> recon69: np , just to not spread misinterpretations :)
[17:59] <KDB9000> evilx, As it is right now, I could log into the server and then a couple hours later log in again without typing the password. But if I restart my system, I have to enter it again.
[17:59] <daredevilthere> Does anyone knw wht this is for /etc/security/access.conf
[17:59] <willie_> thanks
[18:00] <omnydevi> :)
[18:00] <plshelphackadmin> ANY ONE HELP ME
[18:00] <plshelphackadmin> HOW DO HACK SHOP ADMIN
[18:00] <plshelphackadmin> PLS CONT ME ON YAHOO
[18:00] <omnydevi> how....wut?
[18:00] <guntbert> KDB9000: your passphrase is mot for your server  but for your local key-file
[18:00] <guntbert> *not
[18:00] <d0netsFN> rinaldi_
[18:00] <d0netsFN> from cd
[18:00] <plshelphackadmin> jon_fun_2008
[18:00] <Seveas> !ops | plshelphackadmin
[18:00] <KDB9000> daredevilthere, It looks to be a Login access  control table.
[18:01] <plshelphackadmin> PLS CONT ME
[18:01] <plshelphackadmin> jon_fun_2008
[18:01] <plshelphackadmin> jon_fun_2008
[18:01] <plshelphackadmin> jon_fun_2008
[18:01] <FloodBot3> plshelphackadmin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <Dolo> my dvd drive keeps showing up as cd rom / blue ray
[18:01] <Seveas> thanks staff
[18:01] <RichiH> np
[18:01] <Dolo> i cant find anything on how to fix it
[18:01] <KDB9000> guntbert, I know that, but I don't want it saved for the duration of my sessions. I want it to be forgot as soon as I disconnect from the SSH server
[18:01] <Myrtti> bah, you taeks mah toyz awaeh
[18:01] <daredevilthere> KDB9000: so do u knw how to make use of it
[18:01] <deker0> hi all, i have a question about autostarting a command
[18:01] <fady1> Hello can someone help me i am trying to install ET game i keep getting this error when i try to launch the installtion file ./setup.sh: 278: /home/fady/.setup6895: not found
[18:01] <fady1> ./setup.sh: 289: /home/fady/.setup6895: not found
[18:01]  * Seveas hands Myrtti a dress-up-troll
[18:02] <Myrtti> wheee
[18:02] <Jeruvy> KDB9000: um while you are logged in, that is a session or did I misunderstand?
[18:02] <deker0> how can i automatically run a command as a non-root user at startup?
[18:02] <jamesvla> Ive successfully installed compiz, simple compiz, and compiz fusion on my linux system.. but when I load the themes, it doesn't load the effects.. I think I have to activate the custom GUI settings or so on in xfce or system, but i don't find how to do it.. can someone help me please?
[18:02] <omnydevi> deker0: open terminal and vi .profile
[18:02] <Seveas> deker0, in the crontab of that user add an @reboot entry
[18:02] <evilx> How do I get ubuntu apt-get to install xfce4 without certin packageS?
[18:02] <Seveas> omnydevi, that's upon login, not upon boot :)
[18:02] <KDB9000> daredevilthere, No. What I told you is what I got from the file itself. It sounds like it is used for your login (you logging into the system).
[18:03] <fady1> can someone help me i try to launch a file but i get this ./setup.sh: 278: /home/fady/.setup6895: not found
[18:03] <fady1> ./setup.sh: 289: /home/fady/.setup6895: not found
[18:03] <omnydevi> saveas - its at startup...depending on what startup is
[18:03] <hatter243> jamesvla, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[18:03] <guntbert> KDB9000: to get a feeling for your need: are you starting ssh from console or do you use a client (like putty)?
[18:03] <hatter243> jamesvla, then the "Visual Effects" tab and select "Extra"
[18:03] <daredevilthere> KDB9000: alrite thanks il search for it
[18:03] <jamesvla> Ive successfully installed compiz, simple compiz, and compiz fusion on my linux system.. but when I load the themes, it doesn't load the effects.. I think I have to activate the custom GUI settings or so on in xfce or system, but i don't find how to do it.. can someone help me please?
[18:04] <deker0> okay, let me put it into .profile
[18:04] <hatter243> jamesvla, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[18:04] <hatter243> jamesvla, then the "Visual Effects" tab and select "Extra"
[18:04] <guntbert> !repeat | jamesvla
[18:04] <deker0> rebooting now to see if it works, thanks all!
[18:04] <fady1> please anyone how to fix this error ./setup.sh: 278: /home/fady/.setup6895: not found
[18:04] <fady1> ./setup.sh: 289: /home/fady/.setup6895: not found
[18:04] <Rikkimaru> I'm at the partitioning part of the install process.  I don't want to use guided, because that will use the entire disk.  Can someone point me to some resources so that I can figure out how to make a smaller partition using the manual option?
[18:04] <omnydevi> jamesvla: er, you might want to /join #compiz-fusion those guys got my compiz rockin
[18:04] <daredevilthere> fady1: IS it a hidden file
[18:04] <fady1> yes
[18:04] <fady1> i cant find it
[18:05] <fady1> the file i am installing is not hidden
[18:05] <daredevilthere> fady1: why u put dot before setup6895
[18:05] <Jeruvy> fady1: any filename that starts with a . is hidden
[18:05] <omnydevi> jamesvla: and using compiz with extra settings is what was breaking my system, so you might not want to edit that
[18:05] <Dolo> all i can find is this other guy post of someone with th same problem
[18:05] <recon69> hmm, can i resize a ntfs partition so i can install ubuntu 8.10? and how, cant seem to find it when installing
[18:05] <fady1> dareedevilthere i try to ijnstall a file sudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[18:05] <Dolo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5878765#post5878765
[18:05] <fady1> and i get that error
[18:06] <jamesvla> my linux is xubuntu 8 portuguese and I don't have nether preferences nor preferencias (preferences in portuguese in the system)
[18:06] <KDB9000> guntbert, I have used both but when I do it in the console it seems to save it until I restart my local system. I just tried Putty and Ubuntu pops up a screen (like the one from the console) asking me to put the passphrase in for the key. If I do that then my local Ubuntu system will save it until I restart or log off my local system
[18:06] <misty_> ironic...I'm having some compiz issues myself
[18:06] <Seveas> jamesvla, try #xubuntu
[18:06] <omnydevi> jamesvla: i would /join #compiz-fusion :p
[18:06] <medoctron> fady1 try sudo sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[18:06] <omnydevi> lunch time for me, laters
[18:07] <epoch> i have one final question, does anyone know why when i did sudo apt-get install xmms2, i have no method of launching the GUI of it
[18:07] <guntbert> fady1: so the person who wrote that file expected something on your system, which is not there - ask that person
[18:07] <fady1> guntbert kk thanks
[18:07] <jamesvla> thanks people.. i am going to look in other channels
[18:08] <wolter> my xps m1530 webcam does not work with cheese... cheese was supposed to solve the problem.
[18:08] <guntbert> KDB9000: are you using ssh-agent?
[18:10] <KDB9000> guntbert, No.
[18:11] <guntbert> KDB9000: no? Then who remembers the passphrase?
[18:12] <AJC_Z0> How do I change only the search in /etc/resolv.conf when DHCPing with Network Manager?
[18:12] <KDB9000> guntbert, I do. I put it it when I a prompted to unlock the private key when I use SSH to this server.
[18:12] <nownot> when i try to update python to 2.6 its a no go ...... possibly doing it wrong, what are the commands to update via terminal
[18:13] <Jeruvy> nownot: python (2.5.2-1ubuntu1) is the current package, you'll have to manually update if you're trying 2.6
[18:13] <nownot> Jeruvy: ahh ok, thanks
[18:13] <guntbert> KDB9000: I'm a bit confused it seems, please give me the command line when you start your connection
[18:13] <Zav> does anyone know how i fix this issue? make -C /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/build M=/home/paul/ieee80211 modules
[18:13] <Zav> make: Entering an unknown directory
[18:13] <Zav> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[18:13] <Zav> make: Leaving an unknown directory
[18:13] <Zav> make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
[18:13] <FloodBot3> Zav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <Dolo> my ubuntu is recognizing my dvd player as a blu ray cd rom
[18:14] <Zav> woops sorry
[18:14] <NoSvc> I am having the STRANGEST problem
[18:14] <NoSvc> Ubuntu 8.10 system won't let me change any passwords at all, including root's
[18:14] <Hultis> !keyring
[18:14] <Hultis> !pam
[18:14] <Rikkimaru> I'm at the partitioning part of the install process.  I don't want to use guided, because that will use the entire disk.  Can someone point me to some resources so that I can figure out how to make a smaller partition using the manual option?
[18:15] <NoSvc> It asks me for the current password, I type it in successfully, and then it immediately says "Password updated successfully!" without ever prompting me for the new one!
[18:15] <hatter243> Hultis, I figure those would be two important things...
[18:15] <bthornton> there is/was a metapackage in Ubuntu that installed most of the common utilities/libs needed to build software. Anyone know what the name is?
[18:15] <NoSvc> If I do it as root so as not to ask me the current password, it JUST says "Password updated successfully"
[18:15] <Hultis> hatter243: well, problems remembering passwords for wifi
[18:15] <hatter243> bthornton, build-essential
[18:16] <KDB9000> guntbert, ssh <user>@<server>, after that I pop up window saying that an application wants me to Unlock my Private Key and that I need to enter the PassPhrase.
[18:16] <NoSvc> root@host:/# passwd user
[18:16] <NoSvc> passwd: password updated successfully
[18:16] <NoSvc> What's going on there?
[18:16] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: there is no root password
[18:16] <Dr_willis> NoSvc,  you have a user named 'user' ?
[18:16] <baber> hi
[18:16] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: Without a root password, I can't change anyone's password?
[18:17] <Dr_willis> NoSvc,  sudo passwd USERNANMETOCHANGEPASSWORDOF
[18:17] <NoSvc> Dr_willis: I redacted the user's name, but I have a user by the name I used yes
[18:17] <NoSvc> Dr_willis: That's what I did.
[18:17] <baber> with which command can clear run history?
[18:17] <henri> WTF is this?
[18:17] <Zav> can anyone help me?
[18:17] <NoSvc> passwd <username> as root should allow me to change <username>'s password without typing in the current one
[18:17] <Dr_willis> baber,  i belive the history command can do that.
[18:17] <bthornton> hatter243: ah that's it. Thanks!
[18:17] <NoSvc> But instead, when I issue that command, it just tells me "password updated successfully"... it's skipping the part where it actually asks me for the new password.
[18:17] <hatter243> bthornton, no problem
[18:17] <Hultis> When i connect to a wireless network theres a box telling me to "Enter password for default keyring to unlock", which password am i supposed to enter? tried root pwd, user pwd, wifi pwd
[18:18] <wolter> if i test my webcam with gstreamer-properties, what should I see on success?
[18:18] <guntbert> KDB9000: ah that popup window would be either from gnome-keyring or from seahorse - I suggest you look into the configuration of one of those
[18:18] <l0gin_> hi all
[18:18] <Dr_willis> baber,  'history -c'
[18:18] <Hultis> !keyring
[18:18] <KDB9000> guntbert, Passwords and Encryption Keys right?
[18:19] <att0> how can I see system info (such as CPU, graphics, RAM)?
[18:19] <KDB9000> Hultis, is it an encrypted network?
[18:19] <CrazyYoss> Ive got my crontab setup to logrotate at 3:25am. Syslog shows cron.daily is run at that time, but my log files dont get rotated until 7:40. Any ideas?
[18:19] <baber> Dr_willis: do i have to restart system after typed history -c ?
[18:19] <NoSvc> Dr_willis/Jeruvy: Any ideas?
[18:19] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: I think its not working because you're in a root shell, try from a normal shell using sudo passwd user
[18:19] <Hultis> KDB9000: wpa-psk
[18:19] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: Still skips the part where it asks me for the new password
[18:19] <KDB9000> Hultis, does the desktop get graied out when it ask for the password?
[18:20] <Dr_willis> baber,  no. I did not have to do so   - that clears out the bash history.
[18:20] <eseven73> att0: try lshw
[18:20] <rothchild> hi, simple one I'm sure, how do I back up my desktop theme? there's a
[18:20] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: something odd there, it should first ask for your password, then verify the user, then initiate the change
[18:20] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: I've tried it every which way I could think of, having the user do it themselves, using sudo, and just as root.
[18:20] <rothchild> sorry misskeyed, there's a save as button but it's greyed out
[18:20] <guntbert> KDB9000: I'm not too familiar with these two apps myself, but try seahorse from command line or else look at the documentation
[18:20] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: Yep.... that's what it does on every other gnu linux system I've ever used
[18:20] <NoSvc> On this box though, it just refuses to ask me for the new password.
[18:20] <Hultis> KDB9000: not really, but i cant write or focus anywhere else, maybe the greying is part of some graphic option
[18:20] <KDB9000> guntbert, already
[18:20] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: something with your rollout...
[18:20] <Dr_willis> NoSvc,  sounds like a odd bug to me.. it works that way here
[18:20] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: This is my office workstation
[18:21] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: And it was working in the past
[18:21] <baber> Dr_willis: i want clean commands that entered in run application(alt+f2)
[18:21] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: well since you play in root shell, anything is game to bust
[18:21] <anabolix> anyone know how to mount a usb flash disk, need it pronto exam material on it, and i cant access it :S
[18:21] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: What makes you think I do that?
[18:21] <KDB9000> Hultis, then it is the wireless key. If I remember right it will ask for the wireless key and if you want it remembered, then you put your user password in (so it can sudo the command and save the password).
[18:21] <Dr_willis> baber,  no idea on that.   history -c , clears the bash history.
[18:21] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: I got into a root shell specifically so I could issue that passwd command from one, I don't normally linger there.
[18:22] <Hultis> KDB9000: ill try that... again
[18:22] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: Anything's possible, but I can't see how "user error" would lead to passwd refusing to ask me for the new password
[18:22] <att0> does *-pci (in lshw) mean I must use buy a PCI graphics card if I want to upgrade?
[18:22] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: but that is not normal, have you checked for boot/kernel errors/warnings or any changes.
[18:23] <anabolix> anyone know how to mount a usb flash disk?
[18:23] <anabolix> i right click it and try using the mount option and doesnt work
[18:23] <wolter> dell xps m1530 webcam problems... no video with v4l or v4l2...
[18:24] <wolter> niether with any other...
[18:24] <guntbert> KDB9000: try to restart the seahorse-daemon, or seahorse-agent, then there is something called seahorse-tool, call either with --help
[18:24] <KDB9000> Hultis, What does the title say when it ask for the password?
[18:24] <daredevilthere> i added entry to disallow login in file /etc/security/access.conf but still whn i doest restrict?
[18:25] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: There do not appear to be any changes, all of my checksums match the debsums
[18:25] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: At least, as reported by my kernel. :\
[18:25] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: No unusual boot messages
[18:25] <baber> ﻿i want clean commands that entered in run application(alt+f2) how can i do that?
[18:25] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: wish I had an answer, it's certainly strange and interesting.
[18:25] <fsufitch> is it possible to get the measurement of an area selected in gimp?
[18:26] <NoSvc> Me too... oddest thing I've ever seen.
[18:26] <anabolix> anyone know how to mount a usb flash disk?
[18:26] <Xsss4hell> How do I configure 6.1 sound for Ubuntu?
[18:27] <ortsvorsteher> !sound
[18:27] <Doonz> Hey guys i installed Firestarter on my Ubuntu box. The home netwrok is being routed through the ubuntu box. Everything is working except for my internet has severely slowed down. Any ideas or suggestions to start dealing with this?
[18:27] <bobbob1016> Can I get google-desktop to show me results in a nautilus window?
[18:28] <Xsss4hell> ortsvorsteher: I have Pulseaudio dude, cuz it's default in intrepid
[18:28] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: ok stupid suggestion but I'm gonna make it, are you sure it's the right passwd command?  Its not running a script by mistake?
[18:29] <NoSvc> Jeruvy: which passwd indicates /usr/bin/passwd
[18:29] <NoSvc> and no alias
[18:29] <Jeruvy> NoSvc: ok.  so that isn't the problem.  hmm.
[18:30] <anabolix> anyone know how to mount a usb flash disk?
[18:30] <anabolix> how do list hardware devices?
[18:30] <anabolix> so i can mount them?
[18:31] <fosco__> anabolix, sudo parted -l
[18:32] <guntbert> NoSvc: its no help at the moment but I think i remember a similar situation, but alas not the solution :(
[18:32] <error404notfound> is there a apt-spy like package in ubuntu?
[18:33] <Xsss4hell> ortsvorsteher: But I have a 6.1 sound card, I only need to know howto set this up, regardless if it's hard or not. I couldn't find ANY tutorial. I would be happy if somebody could help me. I can't imagine nobody has 6.1 in the world!
[18:33] <fosco__> error404notfound, what does that command do?
[18:33] <hatter243> error404notfound, what's apt-spy do?
[18:33] <jpds> hatter243: Looks for the best mirror available.
[18:33] <error404notfound> fosco__: hatter243: i was used to use that in debian to find best mirror...
[18:34] <ortsvorsteher> Xsss4hell: i also have a 5.1 soundcard, but not configured cause i will install medibuntu on the box. so i have no expirience yet.
[18:34] <error404notfound> jpds: correct..
[18:34] <Xsss4hell> I searched google, ubuntuforums etc. but there is not tut for 6.1 soundcard for pulseaudio
[18:34] <hatter243> Ah hah
[18:34] <fosco__> error404notfound, sistem - admin - software preferences
[18:34] <jpds> error404notfound: I think Software Sources can do that.
[18:34] <jpds> error404notfound: Download from: Select Best Server.
[18:34] <error404notfound> fosco__: jpds: no commandline tool?
[18:34] <Xsss4hell> I have 7.1 gigaworks s750 but a Creative audigy2 platinum ex sound card.
[18:35] <fosco__> error404notfound, dont know
[18:35] <Xsss4hell> It would be very poor to hear only stereo with it.
[18:35] <Xsss4hell> the gigaworks can upmix 6.1 to 7.1 automatically.. but if it doesn't receice 6.1 it won't do anything :(
[18:35] <Loic_> anyone knows how to control the cpu fan? I have an asus p5q pro mobo + 3pin Scythe Ultra Kaze fan
[18:36] <Loic_> I believe it's something in /proc/acpi but I don't know what to edit/do
[18:36] <Xsss4hell> It should be this line load-module module-alsa-sink device_id=0 channels=7 ... but I don't know any further
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Xsss4hell,   depeneding on the video/audio source.  you may onlyu get stero.. Unless you use the mixer controlls and clone the front to the rear.    but ive only got 4.1 speakers here. :)
[18:37] <wolter> thi
[18:37] <Xsss4hell> Dr_willis: yes. called surround sound. Isn't there anything as CMMS 3D on Linux? or DTS etc..
[18:37] <wolter> hi, i mean, my webcam now works on xaw.tv, but not on any other application.
[18:37] <wolter> cheese started showing the test video input, instead of anything, yet it didn't show the webcam input, as it ought to.
[18:37] <Dr_willis> Xsss4hell,  some players have  plugins to fake it.. some dont.. or ive used the mixer to just clone the front to rear befor.
[18:38] <Hovefirse> Hiya folks! Does any of you use any command line-driven tool for loading music to your iPod from Ubuntu?
[18:38] <Xsss4hell> Dr_willis: currently I told /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to use 8 channells altough my card has only 7 channels. it works. but it's NOT the correct setup.
[18:38] <patx> how do i make a .zip folder in ubuntu?
[18:38] <Dr_willis> patx,  you cam make a zip ARCHIVE if you want...
[18:38] <Xsss4hell> Dr_willis: I have surround sound now. but I can't configure any channel because it's the wrong config as you know now^
[18:38] <Dr_willis> !ark
[18:39] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Xsss4hell,  ive never messed with it that much. so all i know is  allready been said. :)   it can take some tweaking.
[18:39] <patx> y Dr_willis
[18:39] <Big_Red> can anyone help me out with finding out if i will need drivers for a HP NC6000 laptop as they only "officially" support Windows
[18:39] <anabolix> i need to mount a flash disk, can someone help me do that?
[18:40] <Crooper> hello
[18:40] <fosco__> !hi | Crooper
[18:41] <guntbert> NoSvc: you could try: strace passwd (as simple user), maybe you see some weirdness
[18:41] <Dr_willis> Big_Red,  depends on what specific things you need drivers for -  the ubuntu forums have a  a laptop section i recall. and heres linux-laptop web sites with info on specific makes
[18:41] <anabolix> fosco_, have any idea how i can mount my usb flash disk? i need it for work, and im stuck right now
[18:41] <NoSvc> guntbert: I'm doing that right now
[18:42] <NoSvc> guntbert: trying to capture the differences between a known-good system and this one
[18:42] <fosco__> anabolix, mount it just as any other partition
[18:43] <anabolix> fosco_, how do i find it? i used parted
[18:43] <keres> blkid
[18:43] <fosco__> do you know the partition name?
[18:43] <anabolix> and i think its in "read-only", could that be the problem?
[18:43] <anabolix> i think its /dev/sdc0
[18:43] <fosco__> no
[18:44] <anabolix> so how do i find it?
[18:44] <fosco__> this is the CD/DVD
[18:44] <fosco__> sudo parted -l
[18:44] <fosco__> paste the output in pastebin.com
[18:44] <eseven73> that*
[18:44] <guntbert> NoSvc: another shot in the dark: look at the permissions for /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, or could it be pam thats playing tricks with you?
[18:45] <eseven73> dont use pastebin.com use Ubuntu's paste.ubuntu.com
[18:46] <eseven73> there goes ubottu :(
[18:46] <jussi01> for a min ;)
[18:46] <eseven73> hey jussi01 :)
[18:46] <anabolix> http://pastebin.com/d1cb5c36f
[18:47] <anabolix> fosco_, http://pastebin.com/d1cb5c36f
[18:47] <bobbob1016> Big_Red, I'd say boot from a LiveCD and see what doesn't work.  The only thing that an actual install can do that a LiveCD can't driver-wise is graphics drivers.  Meaning you'll be using the open source drivers on the LiveCD, the install can use either the open source or the closed source.
[18:47] <guntbert> Big_Red: have you tried google with 'ubuntu nc6000' ?
[18:48] <PMantis> Can someone please help explain why I'm getting out of disk space messages with 2.8G free?  (http://paste.ubuntu.com/102868/)
[18:48] <NoSvc> guntbert: Perms look OK... shadow is readable by shadow group
[18:48] <fosco__> anabolix, you have nothing attached/detected
[18:48] <wolter> how do i install flash on a 64bit ubuntu?
[18:48] <Dr_willis> PMantis,  how big a hard drve total? 5% is normally reserved for root/system recovery
[18:49] <Dr_willis> wolter,  i just do a 'apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' and it grabbed it
[18:49] <fosco__> wolter, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:49] <krbizimo> PMantis, that space is reserved. Try: apt-get clean
[18:49] <wolter> Dr_willis, fosco_ thanks!
[18:49] <PMantis> Dr_willis: 57% free!
[18:49] <krbizimo> ﻿PMantis: and apt-get autoremove
[18:49] <thielmann> A user called me and told me that his system refuses to start after todays updates. It seems to be related to his SATA controller, he told me he saw error messages like "12051.885735 ata2.00:
[18:49] <thielmann> exception Emask" and "status: (DRDY)". I'm trying to figure out whether it's a hardware problem or a regression. Does anybody know if there's a list of recent updates or has anybody heard of such problems? Any ideas?
[18:49] <krbizimo> ﻿PMantis what's the size of your disk, and how have you partitioned it?
[18:50] <PMantis> Dr_willis: 6.5G drive, one partition (/). If you check my pastbin, you'll see it all:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/102868/
[18:50] <rabbits_> what you gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your hdd
[18:50] <Dr_willis> PMantis,  what is saying you are getting out of disk space exactly?
[18:50] <rabbits_> what you gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your hdd
[18:50] <rabbits_> what you gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your hdd
[18:50] <xinel> hey guys is there a ubuntu server channel?
[18:50] <FloodBot3> rabbits_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <Seveas> xinel, #ubuntu-server
[18:51] <xinel> cheers
[18:51] <rabbits_> what you gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your hdd
[18:51] <krbizimo> ﻿PMantis. have you tried the command i gave you?
[18:51] <rabbits_> what you gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your hdd
[18:51] <Seveas> !ops | rabbits_
[18:51] <rabbits_> what you gonna do with all that junk all that junk inside your hdd
[18:51] <jaume> hello. I have upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and I have a nvidia card. I'm unable to use all the features of my graphics card. Can somebody help me?
[18:51] <Seveas> jussi01, ubottu just crashed
[18:51] <guntbert> NoSvc: another one: is passwd suid root?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> PMantis, I would have to suggest booting a live cd and fscking the filesystem
[18:52] <Seveas> guntbert, it should be
[18:52] <NoSvc> guntbert: Yes it is
[18:52] <anabolix> fosco_ my usb is connected :S
[18:52] <pb11> Hey
[18:52] <NoSvc> guntbert: Doesn't work when I run directly as root either though
[18:52] <guntbert> Seveas: I know, thats why i was asking :)
[18:52] <pb11> Can somebody help me with partitioning =\
[18:52] <PMantis> Dr_willis: Please look at my pastebin. 'touch' (0 bype file) won't run. apt-get refuses to do anything either because it has 'no breathing room'?? I think 57% of the hard disk is plenty of space.
[18:53] <Dr_willis> PMantis, I would have to suggest booting a live cd and fscking the filesystem   <---------------------- I would try this..
[18:53] <databridge> hello, everytime i reboot, the symbols on the taskbar are mixed and in chaos order, how can i prevent this?
[18:53] <xinel> just asked this question in the server channel thought id ask it here to
[18:53] <xinel> i want to create an ssh tunnel from eth2 to the outside world and allow anyone from eth0 to connect through it, any ideas?
[18:53] <Reave> Hello and sorry to bother again but I'm trying to mount a filesystem as writtable by users as well as root - this is my current script in fstab "/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 0" can someone tell me why this doesn't allow normal users to write to the mount point?
[18:54] <anabolix> fosco_, i can see it when i go to "places---->computer" but i cant access it
[18:54] <Dr_willis> Reave,  becasue its EXT3 - ext2/3 has its own permissions - you dont just mount them and 'override' them
[18:54] <Dris__> hi
[18:54] <Dris__> i have a problem
[18:54] <NoSvc> xinel: ssh don't operate on interfaces, they operate on tcp ports
[18:54] <guntbert> NoSvc: next idea: create a new user and try as that one (remember: I'm only fishing)
[18:54] <PMantis> Dr_willis: And what do you mean by try? run it and hope it does magic? I've had this happen on this system many times, and I have to delete all logs, then apt-get clean, apt-get autoremove, remove old kernels, etc.
[18:54] <Dris__> somebody, can help me?
[18:54] <Dris__> my problem:
[18:54] <NoSvc> guntbert: Good experiment, lemme try that
[18:54] <pb11> Is there anyway I can partition only part of my remaining free space for an ubuntu installation?
[18:54] <Dris__> If i login to ubuntu, the monitor is badly
[18:54] <Dris__> i have a picture
[18:54] <xinel> NoSvc: i know, just wondering how to go about doing it
[18:54] <Pici> !enter | Dris__
[18:55] <Dris__> http://www.mypicx.com/01092009/asdasd/
[18:55] <Dr_willis> PMantis,  its 1/2 full and it says its full.. sounds to me like the filesystem has gotten currupted.   Try removing some stuff I guess.. but sonmthing seems very odd in your drive
[18:55] <PMantis> Dr_willis: But on other systems, I've seen them run to exactly 0% disk space free. Why is *this* install different - that's my main question... something deeper is wrong.
[18:55] <Reave> DR_willis: so I need to make a folder on that drive that is user writtable and just put my contents inside that?
[18:55] <databridge> pb11: on the ubuntu installation you have the choice to resize and use the remaining space for ubuntu
[18:55] <Dr_willis> PMantis,  right. I would guess Filesystem CUrruption. Or the HD is goind bad.
[18:55] <xinel> like do i start the tunnel then just connect the programs i want to use through the port?
[18:55] <NoSvc> xinel: Have you checked google for "ssh tunnels"?
[18:56] <Dr_willis> Reave,  then as root make the directory. then set the permissions to allow the users to access it.
[18:56] <NoSvc> There's a lot of good info out there
[18:56] <PMantis> Dr_willis: It's definitely not a bad drive, many other system are on this SAN.
[18:56] <xinel> NoSvc, checking google as we speak, also checked the forums
[18:56] <pb11> databridge, I'm doing this off of xp
[18:56] <Reave> would chmoding the mount points folder to writtable by normal users also have the same effect?
[18:56] <Dr_willis> PMantis,  not sure what a 'san' is. So it may be some very odd issue that ive never herd of.
[18:56] <PMantis> Dr_willis: I have ran fsck, gpartend, etc on a live CD before... never helped. I can try again.
[18:56] <PMantis> Dr_willis: Fiber channel storage.
[18:56] <pb11> and when I run livecd, the partition program that it brings up wont allow my to choose only a portion of my remaining free space
[18:56] <databridge> pb11: you don`t need to, just put in the ubuntu cd, and start the installation, then you can do it
[18:57] <pb11> I am
[18:57] <NoSvc> xinel: http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/how-to-ssh-tunnels-for-secure-network-access/
[18:57] <PMantis> Dr_willis: It's an industry standard for enterprise storage.
[18:57] <NoSvc> xinel: That's a good guide.
[18:57] <Dr_willis> Reave,  subdirs, and files each have their own permissions/ownership.. so not really.  It would let you acccess the root of the drive. but not all the subdirs
[18:57] <pb11> but it says I can only use all the remaining free space
[18:57] <databridge> pb11: i dont believe that
[18:57] <pb11> my C:/ drive has 10 gigs remaining, I only want to use 5
[18:57] <pb11> when I run the cd
[18:57] <pb11> I get to the partitioning stage
[18:57] <databridge> pb11: you need to resize it
[18:58] <pb11> it says 100000 mb available or w/e
[18:58] <databridge> make the partition 1 smaller
[18:58] <Reave> Dr_willis: okay I think I'm on the right page now - thank you
[18:58] <xinel> NoSvc, not what i was looking for, i can already connect to the outside world
[18:58] <databridge> otherways, download the partimage live cd and use it for partitioning
[18:58] <xinel> through my server
[18:58] <NoSvc> guntbert: Hah... very odd. I add a new user with adduser foo
[18:58] <databridge> pb11: otherways, download the partimage live cd and use it for partitioning
[18:58] <NoSvc> guntbert: It sets up the user just fine, but never asks me for a password for them
[18:58] <tripchronic_> anyone know how to get the sound working in VBOSE ?
[18:58] <xinel> i will try a few ideas of my own
[18:59] <NoSvc> guntbert: it just says "password updated successfully"
[18:59] <wesley> how do i get Opengl info  from the terminial ?
[18:59] <fosco__> wesley, glxinfo
[18:59] <culb> glxinfo
[18:59] <databridge> pb11: or use gparted
[18:59] <pb11> databridge: the partimage livecd will allow me to leave the partition 1 in tact and only use the free space?
[19:00] <databridge> pb11: you just create another partition for ubuntu, then you use the ubuntu cd again and install in that partition
[19:00] <wesley> fosco_ i went driver info ect, like i see in kde infocentrum
[19:00] <thielmann> Does anyone know where to find a list of the latest updates for intrepid?
[19:00] <PMantis> Dr_willis: Do you know how to check the # of inodes on the filesystem?
[19:00] <hombre> does anyone spezak french?
[19:00] <DefamedPrawn> anyone know of an easy way to get the contact list off of my nokia 6085 with usb or bluetooth?
[19:00] <pb11> Ok, I'll try that.
[19:00] <Pici> !fr | hombre
[19:01] <Dr_willis> PMantis,  not really. Been ages sinvce ive had to mess with that stuff
[19:01] <databridge> pb11: otherways there are lot of different partition managers out there and some are freeware
[19:01] <AslanMan_> Hi, where can I find PHP's error log?
[19:01] <tripchronic_> anyone know how to get the sound working in VBOSE ?
[19:01] <databridge> hombre: je suis une artichaute
[19:02] <pb11> is Ext3 or NTFS better for ubuntu
[19:02] <pb11> I forget
[19:02] <LePHiSTO>  ext3
[19:02] <Pici> pb11: Ubuntu cannot install to an NTFS partition
[19:02] <databridge> pb11: ntfs is only for windows, never use that for linux
[19:02] <eseven73> NTFS is a windows format
[19:02] <pb11> Okay, thanks.
[19:03] <PMantis> AH-HA!  "Free inodes:              0"
[19:03] <databridge> anyone knows a solution for my icon disorder problem?
[19:03] <PMantis> I have plenty of disk space, but no free inodes. How can I repair this?
[19:03] <tripchronic_> never mind!
[19:03] <Iraimbilanja> Hi. Any way I can use a 64bit Ibex CD to chainload and rescue a Windows system on a 32bit pc?
[19:03] <Iraimbilanja> Mostly I want to get at a grub prompt, I guess
[19:03] <NoSvc> xinel: Nothing on that page is specific to outside vs. inside... the same thing applies
[19:03] <databridge> everytime i reboot the icons on the taskbar are in disorder
[19:04] <NoSvc> xinel: If your system has two interfaces, you can ssh from one to the other and establish a tunnel
[19:04] <NoSvc> Routing might be a better idea, but if you want to use tunnels you can
[19:04] <xinel> i don;t think i explained myself very well
[19:04] <NoSvc> Give a real world example
[19:04] <guntbert> NoSvc: I'm at the end of ideas - best way seems to compare strace/ltrace on a good system - good luck
[19:05] <xinel> i want an ssh tunnel from my server to another server in the outside world, then i want all the traffic from my local network to use that tunnel
[19:05] <xinel> so 5 machines to go through the one tunnel
[19:06] <LePHiSTO> why use ssh as tunnel?
[19:06] <hkais> hello
[19:06] <LePHiSTO> tcp over tcp is genereally a bad idea
[19:06] <bindaas> how to install gnome from ubuntu
[19:06] <bindaas> s/install/uninstall
[19:06] <xinel> what would u recommend LePHiSTO ?
[19:06] <daw> how do I install where my ipod gets mounted and named?
[19:06] <hkais> anyone here who uses a umts broadband connection? I have troubles and I cannot get it running
[19:06] <LePHiSTO> xinel: openvpn
[19:06] <LePHiSTO> hkais: yes
[19:06] <xinel> can;t get openvpn to work
[19:06] <LePHiSTO> huawei
[19:06] <fosco__> bindaas, gnome is yet installed in ubuntu
[19:07] <bindaas> i ahve actually install ubuntu desktop on ubuntu server ..
[19:07] <fosco__> ups, uninstall
[19:07] <thielmann> A user called me and told me that his system refuses to start after todays updates. It seems to be related to his SATA controller, he told me he saw error messages like "12051.885735 ata2.00:
[19:07] <hkais> LePHiSTO: which huawei? I am using the E270
[19:07] <LePHiSTO> i use the e176 (hsupa)
[19:07] <LePHiSTO> but it should work the same way
[19:07] <LePHiSTO> you should get ahm
[19:07] <thielmann> there's a list of recent updates or has anybody heard of such problems? Any ideas?
[19:07] <LePHiSTO> how was it called
[19:07] <ikonia> thielmann: need more info
[19:07] <LePHiSTO> hold
[19:08] <hkais> LePHiSTO: ahm? is it a package?
[19:08] <LePHiSTO> hkais: yes
[19:08] <LePHiSTO> but i don't remeber the name, sth like umtsconfig or sth
[19:08] <LePHiSTO> hold mom
[19:08] <thielmann> ikonia: What kind of information do you need? These error messages are all I get from him, it seems related to the ata controller. System worked fine until updates came in
[19:08] <LePHiSTO> ah umtsmon
[19:08] <LePHiSTO> it's called
[19:08] <thielmann> trying to figure out whether it's a software or a hardware problem
[19:09] <LePHiSTO> it cares for switching the huawei card into the correct mode, as well as at command stuff
[19:09] <Pici> uninstall
[19:09] <xinel> hrmms say i got an .ovpn, .crt .key file and installed open vpn where would i put the files?
[19:09] <LePHiSTO> http://umtsmon.sourceforge.net/
[19:09] <xinel> to get it all to work?
[19:09] <ikonia> thielmann: 1.) what the sata controller is 2.) what version of ubuntu and what arch 3.) what the exact error message is, there is bound to be more than that one line, 4.) the layout of the disks
[19:09] <LePHiSTO> umtsmon is not in the repositories
[19:09] <LePHiSTO> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/28809/howto-umts-per-umtsmon.html
[19:09] <hkais> LePHiSTO: i tried it already, are you running a amd64 kernel?
[19:09] <LePHiSTO> no
[19:09] <LePHiSTO> i run i386
[19:10] <LePHiSTO> there are other ways too, with wvdial
[19:10] <LePHiSTO> hkais: did u try to compile the umtsmon package? what failed?
[19:10] <daw> how do I install where my ipod gets mounted and named?
[19:11] <AslanMan_> Hi, where can I find PHP's error log?
[19:11] <ikonia> daw: it normally gets mounted under /media/$ipod_name
[19:11] <ikonia> AslanMan_: in apache's web logs normally
[19:11] <Iraimbilanja> AslanMan, maybe /var/log/something
[19:11] <daw> yes, but it's not ... i would like it to mount there
[19:11] <Iraimbilanja> oh
[19:11] <thielmann> ikonia: I don't know, the system doesn't start. 2) It's a Dell PC which came with 7.10 pre-installed, it's now on 8.04. 3) He told me that messages like "12051.885735 ata2.00:
[19:11] <thielmann> exception Emask", "status: (DRDY)" came over and over. He's neither tech-savy nor a native english speaker and he's 72, so that's all I get for now... :-) 4) One X GB drive with a single partition.
[19:11] <ikonia> daw: where is it getting mounted
[19:12] <Iraimbilanja> Any way I can use a 64bit Ibex CD to chainload and rescue a Windows system on a 32bit pc?
[19:12] <Iraimbilanja> Mostly I want to get at a grub prompt, I guess
[19:12] <daw> ikonia: ~/<IPOD NAME>
[19:12] <ikonia> thielmann: with just that input it's going to be impossible to debug
[19:12] <ikonia> daw: are you %100 certain it's ~/IPOD_NAME
[19:12] <daw> yes
[19:12] <daw> it is not a sym-link, that's where it is
[19:13] <ikonia> daw: thats where it gets automounted ?
[19:13] <thielmann> ikonia: That's why I was asking for a list of recent updates, since it happened just after updating. I'm trying to a VNC-Connection via Live-CD, but I'm unsure if that will work.
[19:13] <ikonia> daw: can you put it in and show me the output of mount
[19:13] <Dris> nah
[19:13] <daw> ikonia yes, give me a sec
[19:13] <ikonia> thielmann: ssh in via a livecd, and check the /var/dpkg/dpkg.log
[19:14] <ikonia> thielmann: there is a possability that his hardware may have an issue
[19:14] <thielmann> ikonia: I know
[19:15] <xinel> hrmms
[19:15] <xinel> think i put all the files it /etc/openvpn
[19:16] <LePHiSTO> yes sure
[19:16] <LePHiSTO> !openvpn
[19:16] <daw> ikonia sent to you in pm, but said you were away
[19:17] <wesley> how do i change the vga driver ? ( i am on kubuntu kde4, and theres no gui for it )
[19:17] <moreair> Hi
[19:17] <ikonia> daw: looking
[19:17] <xinel> i will backup my server first
[19:17] <xinel> spent 2 hours getting it all to work nicely :P
[19:17] <ikonia> daw: I can't see the ipod in that mount output
[19:18] <daw> ikonia /dev/sdb2 is ipod
[19:18] <ikonia> daw: but thats actually your home dir
[19:18] <daw> yes
[19:18] <ikonia> daw: so your ipod is automounting on /home/daw ?
[19:18] <ikonia> daw: something is very wrong there,
[19:18] <daw> ikonia i understand it's very wrong, i am trying to figure out how to fix it
[19:19] <ikonia> daw: what is your ipod "name"
[19:19] <daw> ikonia i don't know where to look to find the information automount is using
[19:19] <xinel> clonezilla away!
[19:19] <xinel> :P
[19:19] <daw> ikonia ipod name is: 'David's iPod'
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> daw have you pastebinned your fstab
[19:20] <ikonia> daw: I've seen special char like ' cause problems mounting, but never changing it to mount in /home
[19:21] <daw> Jack_sparrow no i haven't but /dev/sdb2 does not even appear there, only my /dev/sda volumns are there, along with /dev/scd0 which is cdrom
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[19:21] <daw> Jack_sparrow and proc, but that's sort of a given
[19:23] <Sylphid|work> what is the package update policy in LTS releases? ... (looking at mailman)
[19:23] <ikonia> daw: can you do a test for me, as I've just checked with my ipod and hal picks up the name from the ipod
[19:23] <ikonia> Sylphid|work: what do you mean, policy ?
[19:23] <ci> is it possible to have desktop effects on VM?
[19:24] <ikonia> ci: not really
[19:24] <daw> ikonia sure what is the test?
[19:24] <ikonia> ci: your virtual graphics card is too weak
[19:24] <ikonia> daw: zero your syslog (/var/log/syslog) unplug the ipod, tail -f /var/log/syslog put it back in and past what you see when you put it in and it automounts
[19:24] <Sylphid|work> ikonia, what requirements have to be met for a new version to be available in the repos
[19:25] <ikonia> Sylphid|work: bug fix, good reason to update, causes no problems for dependencies, talk to the maintainer is a good idea too
[19:25] <Sylphid|work> ikonia, ok thanks
[19:26] <bindaas> aha i did it long back but because i ididnt remove after purging the change has not persisted
[19:26] <bindaas> strange behaviour this tie !
[19:26] <bindaas> s/tie/time
[19:26] <daw> ikonia gaw .. kernal mess as it can't read the device now
[19:27] <daw> ikonia: Jan  9 13:26:10 dave-macbook kernel: [12992.211366] FAT: Directory bread(block 19083) failed
[19:27] <daw>  repeated over and over again
[19:27] <jjax> trying to follow instructions to getting debugging working but it refers to keyserver.ubuntu.com, which doesn't seem to work: gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host
[19:27] <jjax> how do i get past that, alternate server?
[19:27] <wrb123> hello
[19:27] <strangeseraph> had not realized I was already on. Yay opening two chats at once. o-o
[19:28] <ci> ikonia, and it's not possible to use my hardware both with my os and vm?
[19:28] <wrb123> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 and tried to configure network settings. i put in my ip and such manually because thats how our network is configured (no auto ip assignment), and it wont connect. when i look at the settings again it says "netmask: 24" even though i entered 255.255.255.0
[19:28] <oupla_oup> join #fr
[19:29] <jjax> gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host
[19:29] <dancing_nancies_> hello my name is dave matthews
[19:29] <daw> ikonia still nothing but read errors
[19:29] <Loldenuit> http://www.chat-land.org/ Venner tous et aller sur #aide des place ircop gratuit dans les 10 minutte qui suive Merci !
[19:29] <jjax> dang it, i don't know how to copy paste without sending in this client
[19:29] <fady> Anyone know where i can get flash player for 64 bit amd processor?
[19:29] <jjax> keyserver.ubuntu.com <-- server's not available. what do i do instead for keyserver?
[19:30] <omnydevi> fady: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[19:30] <allsystemsarego> backports question: Do I need to install "linux-backports-modules-hardy" from main or do I need to enable hardy-backports and get it from there?
[19:30] <Loldenuit> http://www.chat-land.org/
[19:30] <Loldenuit> http://www.chat-land.org/
[19:30] <FloodBot3> Loldenuit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <strangeseraph> yay for Ubuntu
[19:30] <strangeseraph> finally got that CD problem fixed. Yay!
[19:31] <moreair> musikgoat, I had the same problem when I installed. What I did was, DCHP connection.
[19:31] <DwightShroot> question: whats the command to show me my ip address and port number
[19:31] <BlueLaguna> Where can I find a list of the network devices on a machine?
[19:31] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, ifconfig
[19:31] <BlueLaguna> DwightShroot: Port number?
[19:31] <allsystemsarego> BlueLaguna, lspci | grep -i net
[19:32] <BlueLaguna> allsystemsarego: thanks
[19:32] <BlueLaguna> allsystemsarego: Hmm, how do I figure out which one is eth1, eth2, and so on?
[19:32] <DwightShroot> ﻿BlueLaguna: yeah im setting up remote connect on my iphone and it needs the "ip adress and port"
[19:33] <BlueLaguna> DwightShroot: For what, VNC?
[19:33] <allsystemsarego> BlueLaguna, dmesg | grep -i net
[19:33] <hkais> LePHiSTO: umtsmon is not working out of the box, will try to compile it myself
[19:33] <DwightShroot> ﻿BlueLaguna: its called remote pad
[19:34] <hkais> LePHiSTO: anyway I thought the Networkmanager would solve my problem
[19:34] <daw> ikonia -- do you know where the system gets the information as to where to try to mount the ipod? I thought it was fstab but it is not in there
[19:34] <rio> how to start programms detached from the shell i start it from, so closing the shell will not cause the programm to be terminated?
[19:34] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, netstat -antp
[19:34] <abuchbinder> Anyone using xchat-gnome who'd like to help diagnose/confirm a bug in its handling of DCC transfers, please /msg me. I have a test bot running for this purpose.
[19:34] <allsystemsarego> rio, nohup ?
[19:35] <allsystemsarego> backports question: Do I need to install "linux-backports-modules-hardy" from main or do I need to enable hardy-backports and get it from there?
[19:36] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: thanks, it doesn't say (port:....) can you give an ex. of a port
[19:36] <bazhang> !give me a test
[19:36] <Acedip> hey guys
[19:36] <abuchbinder> !help
[19:36] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, pastebin me your output
[19:36] <rio> allsystemsarego: hm okay, except from the annoying nohup.out ;)
[19:37] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: is it the one after the ip following the colon
[19:37] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, yes
[19:37] <DwightShroot> thanks
[19:37] <guntbert> wrb123: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig and route -n ?
[19:37] <th89> ok guys, i have a problem regarding my USB headset
[19:38] <Acedip> i tried running the update for openoffice, but it stopped saying some weird errors ??
[19:38] <th89> all audio does not go through the headset, and the volume control doesnt control it
[19:39] <krishnan> please tell me how can i contribute to the ubuntu document?
[19:40] <Pici> krishnan: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[19:40] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: question, im trying to set up a remote connect on my iphone, it said connection refused, you know how i could fix the issue
[19:40] <Acedip> some help guys ?? this update is quite important ..
[19:41] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, you need to know the port where the iphone is listening
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Acedip, How did you try to update?
[19:41] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, do you know the iphone's IP address?
[19:41] <bazhang> Acedip, which version and how installed
[19:41] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: negative
[19:41] <jamjax> Can someone point me to a working ubuntu key server? (keyserver.ubuntu.com is down.)
[19:42] <moreair> Acedip, what do you want to update?
[19:42] <biouser> oin #bash
[19:42] <Acedip> Jack_Sparrow: i had put this link in the sources.list file http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[19:42] <Pici> jamjax: Works for me: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/
[19:42] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, install nmap and scan your LAN for IP addresses
[19:42] <Acedip> i want to update OOo 2.1
[19:42] <zetharx> i need help getting the most recent version of java installed
[19:42] <jamjax> thx, Pici, i'll try by IP then
[19:43] <Acedip> moreair: OOo 2.1
[19:43] <zetharx> instructions on the java site run me into an error i don't know how to handle
[19:43] <moreair> Acedip, use Add/Remove
[19:43] <dimitar> hello
[19:43] <Acedip> bazhang: the version is 2.1 and it came with intrepid
[19:43] <ikonia> daw: sorry I was away from my desk, sorry about that
[19:43] <dimitar> i have problems with nvidia drivers on ubuntu 8.10
[19:44] <bazhang> Acedip, from the ppa?
[19:44] <moreair> Acedip, Yes.
[19:44] <daw> ikonia no problem -- here's a question -- is there a way to change my ipod's name from linux? if it's the name that's goofing up HAL maybe that fixes it? if nothing else, maybe it creates a new entry?
[19:44] <Acedip> bazhang: yes i guess
[19:44] <Evert234> i am trying to get my network adapter working but ndiswrapper doesnt cooperate
[19:44] <Zzeiss> Question on Xen - is Xen  with Ubuntu as dom0 broken?
[19:45] <ikonia> daw: don't think you do can it through linux, only itunes and maybe on th ipod
[19:45] <pain> dimitar: have you tried envy? a program to install everything very simple..
[19:45] <Acedip> bazhang: well i'm doing the update now from the synaptic
[19:45] <dimitar> pain no
[19:45] <bazhang> !envy | pain dimitar
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> pain, envy is a last resort for drivers
[19:46] <dimitar> the problem is i know how to install them but it ends up with error(following the official instructions, and from the ubuntu support forum)
[19:46] <comforteagle> I'm trying to get nfs to work between two intrepid machines. I can't telnet to port 32770 from the client machine.
[19:46] <dimitar> there is problem with compiling the kernel
[19:46] <omnydevi> Jack_Sparrow: why is envy a last resort for drivers? thus far it is the only thing that has got my systems up and running
[19:46] <comforteagle> port 32700 just times out
[19:46] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: ok did that and opened it up in the terminal
[19:47] <pain> dimitar: What kind of error do you get then?
[19:47] <omnydevi> Jack_Sparrow: i use it for front line defense
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[19:47] <dimitar> The kernel failed to compile
[19:47] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, ip route show | grep default
[19:47] <zetharx> trying to install java but "rpm -iv jre-6u11-linux-amd64.rpm" just gives me failed dependencies
[19:47] <pain> Yeah, the envy worked like a charm when I had problems..
[19:47] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, what does that give you?
[19:47] <omnydevi> to my experience, graphic drivers can cause hell no matter what you use
[19:47] <krishnan> Pici: i did nt get anything in tht link
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[19:48] <omnydevi> just strange one that has a lot of success would be pushed to the back is all, just curious!
[19:48] <jamjax> Darn, wonder if my work blocks the keyserver port (11371). Will any other ports work, happen to know?
[19:48] <omnydevi> and everyone i tell envy about, has a over 70% success rate :)
[19:48] <Pici> krishnan: What are you looking for?
[19:48] <guntbert> zetharx: on ubuntu the package manager is apt not rpm
[19:48] <Loic_> anyone has a clue how to lower the speed of my cpu fan? I use a scythe 3pin with a asus p5q-e mobo ; can't use q-fan since it's 3 pin
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> omnydevi, and the other 30% have even bigger problems after it
[19:49] <Loic_> i tried playing with sensors but I don't know how to set max speed fan
[19:49] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: default via 192........ dev eth0
[19:49] <FischKopp> Ok, seems the problem with fdisk/ubuntu installer not finding any partitions on my SATA HDD is the HDD password. If I clear the HDD password in BIOS, it works. Is there a way to make ubuntu work with a HDD password?
[19:49] <omnydevi> Jack_Sparrow: maybe, maybe not.
[19:49] <krishnan> Pici: i want to write documents for ubuntu community
[19:49] <daw> ikonia is there a way to simply strip the ipod data from the HAL database?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> omnydevi, Take the discussion to a different channel.
[19:49] <Acedip> if i dont add the OOo repository in the sources.list file, synaptic does not consider OOo for an update,i mean it shows the latest version as 2.1
[19:49] <omnydevi> but coo! envy=last resort, checkout
[19:49] <dimitar> so anyone has any advice for me about my driver problem?
[19:49] <Acedip> so how can i update OOo
[19:49] <zetharx> guntbert: so what command should i be using?
[19:50] <Pici> krishnan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam and #ubuntu-doc should help you
[19:50] <ikonia> daw: it just treats it as a dumb disk
[19:50] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, replace that last digit with a star and run this command: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.* | grep appears ----- that's my example, adapt it for your situation
[19:50] <krishnan> Pici: i asked over thr but no one is present and responding
[19:50] <zetharx> the java in the repository is a dated version and some java apps wont run without the most recent
[19:50] <Pici> krishnan: Its not nearly as active as this channel.  You could also try the mailing list
[19:51] <pain> dimitar: Well, I guess the best sollution is to try every sollution.. =P Its a bit of a pain, but its nice after a while... =S
[19:51] <dimitar> pain i tried what i could:(
[19:51] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, your iphone should be one of those IPs
[19:51] <omnydevi> dimitar: yeah, nvidia drivers either make or break ubuntu. just worked for me recently oob
[19:51] <dimitar> so anyone knows how can i bring back my working drivers?
[19:51] <aar> Hi, what command can I use to check which of my LAN interfaces is up (e.g. eth0, eth1, etc.)?
[19:52] <pain> And do it again, and again... remeber first time I tried to install nvidia drivers, did everything like 10 times, in the exact same way, and all of a sudden, if worked..
[19:52] <bigbaldbastard> dimitar, what's the error when the driver fails to compile?
[19:52] <xinel> ifconfig
[19:52] <omnydevi> dimitar: vi you /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nv or nvidia driver to VESA
[19:52] <guntbert> zetharx: sorry, I only need the one from the repos (1.6.0.0)
[19:52] <omnydevi> graphics card driver rather
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> dimitar, the best questions make for the best answers.  Details about what video card chipset and especially if you previouly used envy will all help get you a good answer
[19:52] <DwightShroot> ﻿﻿allsystemsarego: it was
[19:52] <krishnan> Pici how to find out the mailing list
[19:52] <minche> what application to use for converting txt files to pdf?
[19:52] <Acedip> guys help... i want to update to openoffice 3 but cant..
[19:53] <aar> minche, txt2pdf
[19:53] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, do you know the iphone's IP now?
[19:53] <Pici> krishnan: Follow the link under the 'Contact' heading
[19:53] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: yeah
[19:53] <omnydevi> woot!
[19:53] <krishnan> Pici: ok
[19:53] <edi_99> Hi all. Is there any way to use iTunes on ubuntu?
[19:53] <Pici> edi_99: no.
[19:53] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, sudo nmap -p- <iPhone.IP>
[19:53] <bazhang> edi_99, via wine but very very slow
[19:53] <omnydevi> edi_99: virtualbox or vmware
[19:54] <toddoon> hi, when you open a ftp terminal how do you do path completion from ftp server instead of local directory?
[19:54] <bigbaldbastard> edi_99: windows running on virtualbox
[19:54] <bazhang> edi_99, native linux can sync with iPod fine
[19:54] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, that should give you information about which ports on the iPhone are listening for connections, just look for "open"
[19:54] <edi_99> bazhang: what does native linux mean?
[19:55] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[19:55] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, what was the command you gave in the terminal?
[19:55] <bazhang> edi_99, not some windows software running in a layer, ie wine, but natively supported
[19:55] <dimitar> jack_sparrow i didn't used envy i just installed the newest drivers my system updater gived me. Then i logged in my linux after restart, and i had very bad graphic so i went to system >administrator>hardware drifers  and selected the older one. I have nvidia gforce fx 5200.
[19:56] <aar> edi_99, you can sync to your ipod using Gtkpod
[19:56] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: ﻿sudo nmap -p- <iPhone.IP>
[19:56] <edi_99> bazhang: ok, thanks
[19:56] <edi_99> aar: really? So I could upload songs on my Ipod?
[19:56] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, you need to replace <iPhone.IP> with the actual IP address which you said you knew
[19:56] <aar> edi_99, yes
[19:57] <bazhang> edi_99, rhythmbox too
[19:57] <edi_99> aar: sweet. Where can I find it, in repos?
[19:57] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: oh, derr my bad
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> dimitar, the -177 didnt work om my 6600 I went back to -173
[19:57] <Evert234> can someone help me install windows drivers for my wireless network usb adapter?
[19:57] <aar> aar, yes. if you want to learn more abot it, this is the url: http://www.gtkpod.org/
[19:57] <dimitar> i can't install even 173:(
[19:57] <omnydevi> dimitar: why?
[19:57] <aar> edi_99, , yes. if you want to learn more abot it, this is the url: http://www.gtkpod.org/
[19:58] <dimitar> can't compile the kernel
[19:58] <edi_99> aar: thanks
[19:58] <omnydevi> dimitar: you shouldnt have to
[19:58] <omnydevi> dimitar: what you should do is uninstall the one you have now and install envyng, then let it do the rest
[19:59] <kantlivelong> hey all.. im having problems w/ nvidia. my GPU is only running @ 275mhz and wont go up... its a 9800GTX
[19:59] <dimitar> what is the name of envyng 'cos when i type apt-get install envyng it says there is no such package
[19:59] <Pici> dimitar: envyng-gtk
[19:59] <omnydevi> dimitar: use synaptic package manager
[19:59] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: well i corrected my mistake and got the same thing
[19:59] <omnydevi> or that
[19:59] <darklust> Hey, I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, and I was wondering why, when using online chat programs that include audio (stickam), the sound comes out distorted and off-pitch?
[20:00] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, what was your command?
[20:00] <edi_99> also, what would be the best p2p client to use in ubuntu?
[20:00] <bazhang> !p2p
[20:00] <bazhang> edi_99, see above
[20:00] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, you need to have something like sudo nmap -p- 192.168.1.xyz ...
[20:00] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: wait i got it
[20:00] <omnydevi> deluge!
[20:00] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, no angl brackets
[20:01] <omnydevi> !deluge
[20:01] <edi_99> bazhang: thanks
[20:01] <bazhang> edi_99, /msg ubottu torrent for more info
[20:02] <omnydevi> oh sweet, that owns
[20:02] <krishnan> which linux distro is best for an old computer
[20:03] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: ok it says ... try -PN
[20:03] <xinel> w00t i did it
[20:03] <omnydevi> krishnan: define: "old"
[20:03] <abuchbinder> krishnan: Depends how old.
[20:03] <xinel> openvpn works and all the traffic goes through it
[20:03] <mker> krishnan, discuss different distros in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:03] <xinel> !
[20:03] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, but it gives you a list of open ports, right?
[20:03] <abuchbinder> mker: krishnan might be asking about Ubuntu vs Xubuntu, though.
[20:03]  * xinel does the happy dance
[20:03] <ubuntu> anyone familiar with ntfsclone?
[20:04] <omnydevi> ntfsclone...hrm. not i, but am interested!
[20:04] <DwightShroot> allsystemsarego: Starting Nmap 4.53 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2009-01-09 15:00 EST
[20:04] <DwightShroot> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
[20:04] <DwightShroot> Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.405 seconds
[20:04] <krishnan> abuchbinder: yes i was asking about ubuntu and xubuntu. 128 MB RAM, P3, 40 GB
[20:04] <ubuntu> test
[20:04] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, add "-P0" to the back of that command (without the quotes)
[20:05] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, that's " -P0" with a space as a separator
[20:05] <recon69> resized my vista partition using g-parted to make room for ubuntu, windows not happy and trying to repair itself. anyone know whats windows problem is? I know this is not a win support channel :)
[20:05] <DwightShroot> allsystemsarego: add it to the same command from a minute ago
[20:06] <Acedip> hey guys...
[20:06] <daw> IKONIA -- renamed ipod to davidipod (no special chars) now when i plug it in i get a new message, a pop up window with: cannot mount volume. unable to mount the volume 'DAVIDIPOD' mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[20:06] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, yes, this last one
[20:06] <Acedip> cant upgrade to open office 3
[20:06] <ikonia> daw: looks like it things it's got a <cr> at the end of it
[20:06] <omnydevi> recon69: good luck, and may the force be with you, always. That and I think gParted has a disk/partition analyzer and fixer as well if winblows fails.
[20:07] <l337ingDisorder> I need to clone /dev/sda1 with ntfsclone but when /dev/sda1 is mounted it errors out saying "Device /dev/sda1 is mounted read-write. You must 'unmount' it first." so then when I unmount it and try again, it errors out because it can't open '/dev/sda1/' as NTFS.
[20:07] <omnydevi> chkdsk might be good to
[20:07] <abuchbinder> krishnan: See http://www.xubuntu.org/get#requirements; you need at least 192MB of memory to run the desktop install.
[20:07] <FoxKilo4> Is there any way to get displayconfig-gtk in 8.1?
[20:07] <daw> Ikonia, so try renaming it again?
[20:07] <ikonia> daw: could do
[20:07] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[20:07] <l337ingDisorder> rofl
[20:07] <l337ingDisorder> nevermind
[20:07] <l337ingDisorder> the drive has to be unmounted and I had to use 'sudo'
[20:07] <l337ingDisorder> what a rookie mistake
[20:07] <omnydevi> hehe
[20:07]  * l337ingDisorder 's disorder must be acting up
[20:08] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: starting nmap.........
[20:08] <omnydevi> l337ingDisorder: so that just clones a ntfs volume?
[20:08] <jamiejackson> Do you know of any keyservers running on port 80 (or something other than 11371, which is blocked), for Ubuntu?
[20:08] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, that's going to take a little while
[20:08] <recon69> omnydevi: haha, well, it been so long since i actually had a licence for that pile of steaming ****, it seems a shame to nuke it on its first day :)
[20:08] <allsystemsarego> DwightShroot, I'm going to get something from the fridge, pm me when you have the result
[20:09] <usr13> jamiejackson: Could you restate your question?
[20:09] <DwightShroot> ﻿allsystemsarego: k
[20:09] <abuchbinder> jamiejackson: All OpenPGP keyservers interoperate, as far as I know.
[20:09] <omnydevi> recon69: i hear ya :) i tried resizing a while back...i broke everything, since then i just use whole drives now. brings back bad memories. but i wish i would have tried gparted first so i could have tested the results
[20:09] <omnydevi> anxious to hear someone having success with it
[20:10] <jamiejackson> usr13: i can't hit the keyserver.ubuntu.com on the standard port (blocked by corp. firewall) so I'm looking for one on another port.
[20:10] <cmv583> I am trying to basically install to usb and can't seem to figure out why it's not working? Anyone help, I've read everything i could and can't figure it out.
[20:10] <jamiejackson> thx, abuchbinder, i'll change my google search terms
[20:11] <abuchbinder> jamiejackson: I'd also add that you can do queries over LDAP in some cases, with some keyservers, though I don't know precisely how. That'd be port 11370.
[20:12] <usr13> jamiejackson: Is this any use to you?:  http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
[20:13] <zimnyx> My /etc/network/interfaces file is like this http://pastebin.com/m57be861. Address for eth0 is resolved via DHCP. `/etc/init.d/networking restart` resolve address for this interface (ifconfig shows my public IP for eth0) but I got no internet access. After dhclient eth0 everything starts to work. How can fix this? Running manually `dhclient eth0` after every reboot is annoying.
[20:13] <jamiejackson> maybe, usr13, reading
[20:15] <FoxKilo4> Is there any way to get displayconfig-gtk in 8.1?
[20:15] <FireFox||> Why does ubuntu refuses to mount a wrongly shutdown filesystem  and how can I bypass those anying dialogs everytime? (Thus automating the Force mount)
[20:16] <grayhane> just installed a new radeon 2600 video card , how do I configure things so the box knows it is here ?
[20:16] <erUSUL_> !ati | grayhane
[20:16] <omnydevi> FireFox||: i think ntfs3g /dev/sdb1/ /media/path -force should do the trick
[20:16] <fcat> Hello there
[20:16] <hombre> does anyone speak french?
[20:16] <comforteagle> I'm trying to get nfs to work between two intrepid machines. I can't telnet to port 32770 from the client machine.
[20:16] <daw> can anyone give me a shell command to find the name of a file containing a specific string from a directory tree?
[20:17] <FireFox||> omnydevi: yes it does, but everytime I have to do this manual
[20:17] <usr13> zimnyx: Try commenting out line 5
[20:17] <arquebus> !fr
[20:17] <erUSUL> !fr | hombre
[20:17] <Pici> hombre: /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:17] <grayhane> erUSUL_, it is not a true ATI but used the same chipset. it is a HIS
[20:17] <SudoKing> Hi I need help. I recently tried to install a program which resulted in running out of disk space... apparently it broke dpkg, and I get the error "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0211' near line 1: newline in field name `#padding'" when I dpkg --configure -a
[20:17] <zimnyx> usr13: you mean "iface eth0 inet dhcp" ?
[20:17] <erUSUL> grayhane: the manufacturer does ot matter only the chip it uses
[20:17] <omnydevi> FireFox||: hm, as far as setting a script for it I am note sure man, never used it on my desktop, just livecd's where i have to do it manual every time :(
[20:17] <mobilephreak> daw check out grep
[20:17] <usr13> zimnyx: Yes
[20:17] <fcat> i'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10, i've raid 0 (intel) 2x250gb harddisks. But i can see only 1 harddisk when i try to install. i made 300gb windows partition. 200gb is empty right now. i want to install ubuntu to that partition but don't know how.
[20:17] <saera> hi how to get my windows live camera working in ubuntu ibex?
[20:17] <zimnyx> usr13: why?
[20:18] <jamiejackson> usr13:   their first suggestion about adding "keyserver hkp://keyserver.kjsl.com:80" doesn't work: "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[20:18] <saera> the lights on
[20:18] <SudoKing> every line on that file is "#padding"
[20:18] <Christianbill> Is there a command that lists all the devices connected to the computer
[20:18] <Christianbill> And internal devices as well, for instance internal SD card reader
[20:18] <abuchbinder> daw: You mean like "find /path/to/search/in -name '*regex*'"?
[20:19] <daw> mobilephreak grep finds a line in a file, i need to find the name of a file containing a line. Something like: find ./ -exec grep <string> {} \;  -- but that gives me the lines, not the file names.
[20:19] <flashkidd> does someone knows how to troboshoting k3b?
[20:19] <allsystemsarego> Christianbill, (lspci;lsusb)
[20:19] <omnydevi> fcat - did you use dmraid?
[20:19] <fcat> omnydevi: no i don't know what it is
[20:19] <abuchbinder> Christianbill: Try "sudo lshw|less".
[20:19] <Christianbill> allsystemsarego: Does it work for internal devices as well. I have an internal sd card reader
[20:19] <omnydevi> fcat - are you trying to install via livecd?
[20:19] <allsystemsarego> Christianbill, yes
[20:20] <fcat> omnydevi: nope i downloaded the dvd iso of 8.10
[20:20] <daw> abuchbinder that is for filenames. i'm trying to go through the directory tree, grep each file for a string, and return the name of files containing that string -- and nothing else
[20:20] <Pici> daw: grep -Rl "pattern" /path/*
[20:20] <aar> Hi, what command can I use to check which network device is up?
[20:20] <abuchbinder> Christianbill: You probably want sudo lshw -short, actually.
[20:20] <erUSUL> daw: grep -R STRING dir_tree/ | cut -f1 -d' '
[20:20] <omnydevi> fcat - you could do in terminal sudo dmraid -ay, after that (if it is installed) you can go to /dev/mapper/ and see the array
[20:20] <fcat> omnydevi: well it is not installed yet : )
[20:21] <Christianbill> abuchbinder allsystemsarego thanks
[20:21] <Christianbill> Ill try that
[20:21] <abuchbinder> daw: The above, or find /path/ -print0 | xargs -0 grep 'pattern' |cut -d: -f1|sort|uniq.
[20:21] <omnydevi> fcat - i would start there, let me find a link as well. i tried installing the same way you are, but i failed. make sure you make a /boot partition!
[20:21] <omnydevi> fcat: i got it to install, but i couldn't get grub to work :/
[20:21] <Pici> erUSUL: the -l argument is for just returning the filename, and stops scanning on the first match
[20:22] <erUSUL> Pici: ok good to know thanks ;)
[20:22] <Acedip> hey guys, does anyone has got any idea about upgrading openoffice, i cant seem to do it
[20:22] <Acedip> ????
[20:22] <bazhang> Acedip, version 3?
[20:22] <Christianbill> allsystemsarego: The problem seems that when I put in my 512mb sd card it detects it as /dev/sdb1, but with my 8gb it doesnt work
[20:22] <cmv583> omnydevi: i'm having similar prob. installed from ISO with unetbootin and won't work?
[20:23] <Pici> abuchbinder: In my experience grep -R is much faster than using find and piping to grep
[20:23] <omnydevi> fcat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[20:23] <omnydevi> cmv583: you might find that link useful as well
[20:23] <cmv583> omnikill: no raid
[20:23] <abuchbinder> Pici: Yeah; I think find|xargs is only useful if you're doing something complex with both the filename *and* the contents.
[20:23] <omnydevi> after my troubles, i was told it was because i didn't make a /boot partition and on a raid0 ubuntu will require that
[20:23] <cmv583> omnydevi: no raid
[20:23] <omnydevi> ahh
[20:23] <omnydevi> cmv583: whats up again? Sorry
[20:24] <SudoKing> Hey this is urgent ... my hard drive has run out of space and dpkg has broken dependencies! It is unable to write to the status file even to dpkg --configure -a
[20:24] <omnydevi> your grub is broke?
[20:24] <cmv583> omnydevi: np, similar issue, trying usb install and can't get d#*n thing to work
[20:24] <evilx>  how do I get apt-get to show the files it installed for a package?
[20:24] <Pici> evilx: dpkg -L packagename
[20:25] <evilx> ok thanks
[20:25] <omnydevi> cmv583: i never attempted a usb install. I bring my cd case with me wherever i go, heh. I will be of little help on a usb device.
[20:25] <cmv583> omnydevi: thanx anyway
[20:25] <omnydevi> sorry i couldnt be more help :(
[20:26] <abuchbinder> evilx: Do a "dpkg -L packagename".
[20:26] <abuchbinder> Wait, never mind me.
[20:26] <evilx> hehe, thanks though
[20:26] <abuchbinder> Sorry, didn't see that Pici got to it first.
[20:26] <usr13> jamiejackson: http://www.buzzsurf.com/surfatwork/  skip down to "Overview"
[20:26] <cmv583> omnydevi: np
[20:27] <eut> hello
[20:28] <MDC_> Will installing ubuntu to a USB stick and using grub as bootloader make it bootable on other computers then the installed? I mean - doesn't grub specifies a root device from which it will find / on? Or is there a way around this?
[20:28] <eut> i have been having problems using my new video card with ubuntu, its a nvidia geforce 9500 GT.
[20:28] <Thesmyth> Hello all, does anyone know of any mailinglist software that has a better user interface than Mailman?
[20:29] <loquez> whats the problem eut?
[20:29] <_moro_bana_> !wifi
[20:29] <mib_yzjp37> ok i have a problem i have done everything to my server on this page and i can edit the site at my ip adress but how do i change it so i can type in boscoslife.com and access the site* page url*   (  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP )
[20:30] <allsystemsarego> backports question: Do I need to install "linux-backports-modules-hardy" from main or do I need to enable hardy-backports and get it from there?
[20:30] <loquez> whats the problem eut?
[20:30] <eut> i searched around the ubuntu forums and people had said that using the nvidia provided drivers they were able to get it working.. however, i downloaded version 180.22 of the nvidia drivers. stopped gdm, ran the installation scripts, started gdm and was able to use nvidia-settings to configure my desktops. but.. once i rebooted, ubuntu started in "low graphics mode" and i found with lspci that the video card was only being recognized as a generic nvidia c
[20:30] <eut> ard
[20:31] <mib_yzjp37> can anyone help me
[20:31] <eut> loquez, i'm only able to really use the card if i manually stop gdm, install the driver, and start gdm. if i reboot it seems that the card isnt being detected so the proper driver isnt loaded (or something like that)
[20:31] <loquez> personally i use the Envy script to install nvidia driver
[20:31] <pi-meson> can anyone point me to a recommended vmware image of 8.04 64-bit? I've googled around and found several hits, but non look well-supported, and http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ doesn't have 8.04
[20:32] <eut> loquez, i tried using the envyng-gtk program as well but it was not able to detect my hardware
[20:32] <usr13> eut: System -> Hardware drivers   Enable the Nvidia driver
[20:33] <usr13> eut: System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers   Enable the Nvidia driver
[20:33] <loquez> ugh then i'm not much help sorry
[20:33] <gjh> In ircd (using dancer) what does connection class mean in the o line?
[20:33] <helo> is it possible for me to install ubuntu using a thumb drive?
[20:34] <omnydevi> helo: yes. but i dont think it is very easy
[20:34] <helo> hrm
[20:34] <grayhane> installed the restricted drivers mgr. to inatall that ATI drivers, it said my hardware did not need any drivers ?
[20:34] <eut> usr13, is there a way of knowing which driver that will enable? is it one of the ones provided by nvidia that have opengl2.x support and stuff?
[20:34] <helo> bah, i just got an hp netbook and i'd really like to get rid of windows :)
[20:34] <mobilephreak> mib_yzjp37 are you trying to redirect one page to another?
[20:34] <omnydevi> helo: why not just use a cd?
[20:34] <diogo> alguem fala em portugues auqi
[20:34] <diogo> aqui
[20:34] <helo> no cd drive
[20:34] <loquez> helo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:35] <omnydevi> good reason :D
[20:35] <helo> heh yeah
[20:35] <omnydevi> i know there are how to's out there. just never ventured into it
[20:35] <mib_yzjp37> how do i point www.boscoslife.com to /home/boscoslife/public_html instead of my server ip adress
[20:35] <eut> usr13, i may be mistaken but i think i remember hearing about how some of the open drivers do not implement opengl2.x or something like that
[20:35] <FireFox||> Why does ubuntu refuses to mount a wrongly shutdown filesystem  and how can I bypass those anying dialogs everytime? (Thus automating the Force mount)
[20:35] <sebas__> Somebody know how to add "Text" into Tray Icon from Bash or somethings?
[20:35] <helo> would a usb hard drive (via enclosure) work the same as a thumb drive?
[20:36] <mobilephreak> mib_yzjp37 change the doc root in the httpd.conf file
[20:36] <omnydevi> helo: should yes, if you have a connector for it
[20:36] <helo> oh, nm found my 1GB thumb drive ;)
[20:36] <abuchbinder> FireFox||: Probably because mounting a dirty filesystem can cause data loss; if it were a good idea to force-mount it without checking, Ubuntu would do that for you.
[20:36] <loquez> depends on what your bios is able to boot from i would assume
[20:37] <wizard23> could someone let me know how to use the package manager to install an architecture specific kernel?
[20:37] <wizard23> is that possible?
[20:37] <FireFox||> abuchbinder: I get the part of dataloss, but how does windows solve this problem then? I have to open the drive now and then
[20:37] <linkmaster03> How do I add a VPN on Ubuntu with NetworkManager 0.7? The "add" option for VPN is greyed out.
[20:38] <abuchbinder> I think Windows would force a scandisk on boot.
[20:38] <tulimaq> FireFox||, use safe remove /unmount
[20:38] <abuchbinder> I think Windows *does* do that.
[20:38] <FireFox||> tulimaq: I'm talking about windows crashing and recovering data via ubuntu
[20:38] <FireFox||> So I want to bypass the warning
[20:38] <FireFox||> I'm well aware of the dangers
[20:39] <ldiamond> Is there a way to make it so when you transfert several files to a single target (a HDD) in multiple operations, it sequentializes the tasks so the transfer is faster?
[20:40] <cmv583> omnydevi: do you know of app to read .sys files?
[20:40] <mib_yzjp37> mobilephreak where is that file located in ubuntu
[20:40] <omnydevi> cmv583: can you not just gedit or vi them?
[20:41] <cmv583> omnydevi: tells me no app installed for this file type
[20:41] <omnydevi> cmv583: you in windows?
[20:41] <cmv583> omnydevi:  no ubuntu
[20:42] <schone> hi all i have a .sh script i currently start at terminal line by doing a ./startup.sh how would i add this to my bashrc file so that it runs everytime i reboot
[20:42] <mobilephreak> mib_yzjp37 try locate httpd.conf, not sure, don't have apache on my box
[20:42] <omnydevi> cmv583: brose to the location in terminal and do vi file.sys
[20:42] <tulimaq> FireFox||, try adding ur ntfs  partition to fstab with -force or something maybe ?
[20:42] <cmv583> omnydevi: a little advanced for me
[20:42] <omnydevi> cmv583: no worries, let me try and find something real fast :)
[20:42] <FireFox||> mm good idea tulimaq
[20:42] <FireFox||> Thanks :)
[20:42] <cmv583> omnydevi: thanx
[20:43] <vlt> Hello. How can I playback video from one file and audio from another (video) file?
[20:43] <omnydevi> cmv583: is this a windows sys file you are trying to open in ubuntu?
[20:44] <FireFox||> vlt:  I think videolan, (VLC), is capable of doing that
[20:45] <cmv583> omnydevi: not sure, used unetbootin, in ubuntu, to try to make bootable off ext. HDD and it created this file. Now I'm lost!:-[
[20:45] <usr13>  omnydevi Shouldn't matter, windows sys files are just text files anyway.
[20:45] <cmv583> omnydevi:  i'm sure i have gedit also
[20:45] <usr13> omnydevi: cmv583 what is unetbootin ?
[20:46] <FireFox||> How can I install ubuntu on an existing RAID0 setup with vista on it?
[20:46] <cmv583> omnydevi: UNetbootin allows for the installation of various Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive, so it's no different from a standard install, only it doesn't need a CD. It can create a dual-boot install, or replace the existing OS entirely.
[20:47] <theneb> Hi all, after a recent update when I've logged into Gnome and as soon as the gnome-power applet (the charging icon in the tray) has started up. The charging on my laptop stops.
[20:47] <schone> any ideas guys
[20:47] <marlon_> uu
[20:47] <omnydevi> cmv583: can you right click the file and "open with other application" and use text editor?
[20:48] <aeonoris> theneb, try tweaking the settings on the gnome-power applet?
[20:48] <AJC_Z0> I plan to re-image my 8.10 Desktop laptop using the alternate CD (ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso) using the full disk encryption (LUKS), re-install all the apps I want and restore my home directory. Any advice or gotchas?
[20:48] <cmv583> omnydevi: Could not open the file /media/My Book/ldlinux.sys.
[20:48] <FireFox||> How can I install ubuntu on an existing RAID0 setup with vista on it?
[20:49] <nowimproved> can anyone use the mic on stickam? With the latest version of firefox and the latest flash?
[20:49] <cmv583> omnydevi:  does give option for changing character coding though?
[20:49] <hetii> hi
[20:49] <hetii> hmm
[20:50] <omnydevi> cmv583: if not, you have to open a terminal and do sudo nautilus
[20:50] <Meho_> hey guys i was doing updates on 8.10 version of ubuntu and i got (11 resource temporarly unavailable) i tried switching sources but it has not worked any solutions
[20:50] <tulimaq> FireFox||, software raid ?
[20:50] <omnydevi> then find the file and that should give you write access
[20:50] <theneb> aeonoris: the applet thinks it's charging. However my laptop charging light is off.
[20:50] <omnydevi> FireFox||: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[20:50] <FireFox||> tulimaq: I actually don't know, it's a Dell studio XPS
[20:50] <theneb> It's on before gnome starts
[20:50] <woody86_> how can I run a .sh file?
[20:50] <klync_> anyone running vmware player? i'm trying to switch an image from using nat to bridged mode, with no success
[20:51] <Slart_> woody86_: either sh yourfile.sh or bash yourfile.sh
[20:51] <klync_> woody86_: if it's not executable, `/bin/sh myscript.sh`
[20:51] <greg_stevens> Hello, I would like to automount my ntfs harddrive to ubuntu. I know that I have to edit the /etc/fstab file, and I know the name of the device (/dev/sdb2), but I don't know what its default mount point is. Where can I find this info?
[20:51] <omnydevi> klync_: i had the same issue. i rebooted and it worked after that
[20:51] <woody86_> thx guys! :)
[20:51] <a1fa> is there any tools to open ttyS0 via default ubuntu install or livecd?
[20:51] <tulimaq> FireFox||, u can setup software raid form alternative install cd
[20:51] <klync_> omnydevi: oh, thx
[20:51] <omnydevi> :)
[20:51] <omnydevi> FireFox||: yes
[20:51] <omnydevi> FireFox||: i never got it to work, but others have
[20:52] <omnydevi> FireFox||: make sure you make a /boot partition, i think that is why mine gave me so much hell
[20:52] <omnydevi> brb
[20:52] <cmv583> omnydevi: http://pastebin.com/d49cc7481
[20:52] <ZeuRush> hi - trying to convert my wubi ubuntu installation to a dedicated one. Got it to work, just need the last MBR tinckering: I'm using windows' MBR to load the wubi ubuntu grub menu and then the dedicated ubuntu. Any way to load grub for the dedicated installation by using the Windows MBR?
[20:52] <Pici> greg_stevens: A mount point is any empty directory. Just create one somewhere where you want the contents of that drive to show up
[20:52] <FireFox||> omnydevi: so intalling won't affect my vista?
[20:53] <omnydevi> FireFox||: i can't say with 100% confidence it won't. partitioning has lost several of my OS's i had originally
[20:53] <aeonoris> theneb, it could be that your computer is using up the same amount as or more than the amount of power that is going into your computer
[20:53] <FireFox||> mm, omnydevi is there a way to avoid that sort of problems?
[20:53] <valros> hey is icedtea currently the best 64bit plugin for java?
[20:54] <Fractured> hey guys!, how would i go about permanently changing my MAC address on Ubuntu?
[20:54] <valros> ive had some problems with it
[20:54] <aeonoris> theneb,  Is the battery very old?  Is there any reason your compy might not be getting as much power as normal?
[20:54] <greg_stevens> Pici, I know that, as I can mount the drive manually using the graphical Disk Mounter Toolbar, but I would like to know where that mounts it
[20:54] <omnydevi> FireFox||: get some backup software like acronis and clone your drive now is about the only way i know of
[20:54] <FireFox||> an prepartitioning? (but keeping the raid)
[20:54] <fcat> So there is no way to install Ubuntu on a bios raid harddisk right..
[20:55] <cmv583> omnydevi: http://pastebin.com/d49cc7481
[20:55] <omnydevi> FireFox||: i just had bad luck with it. before i would partition anything from here on out, i am cloning my drive. its the only way to be sure
[20:55] <omnydevi> cmv583: that sucks, not sure how to handle it. i would google the error or ask someone here who might know :)
[20:55] <helo> ahh, i'm fortunate ubuntu is based off of debian... liveusb works from within it heh
[20:55] <Slart_> fcat: *if* there is a way... and that's a big if.. it would be by using the alternate cd..
[20:55] <greg_stevens> is there some standardized place? is it the /mount dir?
[20:55] <valros> you cant permanently change it, but there are ways to permanently spoof it, though i had no luck with it, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94891
[20:56] <cmv583> fcat: http://www.linux.com/forums/topic/1348
[20:56] <greg_stevens> oops, I meant /media
[20:56] <Slart_> fcat: but fakeraid/onboard raid is tough to get going in linux.. I don't know if the solutions are proprietary or why the drivers aren't there..
[20:56] <Darkside__> greg_stevens: can mount anywhere.
[20:57] <_Ben> evening all
[20:57] <Darkside__> greg_stevens: generally /media is the logical choice
[20:57] <omnydevi> fcat: for raid0, not that i know of. many have tried, few have succeeded
[20:57] <chris_> i can't seem to get windows to delete/modify files in samba
[20:57] <greg_stevens> Darkside: thanks!
[20:57] <adaptr> chris_: your windows user does not have sufficient permissions then
[20:58] <cmv583> omnydevi: can't believe it but google search did not match any documents!
[20:58] <cmv583> omnydevi: lol
[20:58] <chris_> adaptr is that an issue for smb.conf file?
[20:58] <adaptr> chris_: possibly, since that's on eplace where you could solve it
[20:58] <xp_prg> what is the good cd burning software again?
[20:59] <adaptr> chris_: but solving the actual permissions themselves would be better
[20:59] <eseven73> k3b
[21:00] <eseven73> !burn | xp_prg
[21:00] <_Ben> quick question, i need to install ubuntu server (minimal would be good) on a pc with no cd drive, floppy drive or ability to boot from usb. the only way i think I can do it is to plug the hdd into this pc's usb port and go from there. does anyone know if this can be done easily from within windows or linux???
[21:00] <chris_> adaptr is there some way someone could help me set permissions?
[21:01] <Darkside__> _Ben: cant use a cd/dvd drive temporarily?
[21:01] <Darkside__> _Ben: would be easier to take 1 out of another system.
[21:01] <_Ben> darkside__ unfortunately no, its a thin client with only enough room for 1 2.5" hdd
[21:01] <Witzman> hi
[21:02] <cmv583> usr13: might you know where to go with .sys file?
[21:02] <adaptr> chris_: are you th eonly windows user accessing these files ?
[21:02] <_Ben> Witzman, hi
[21:02] <Darkside__> _Ben: there is a guide somewhere to install from hd, have to google it tho
[21:02] <Witzman> can anyone help me with an init script problem?
[21:02] <Witzman> description here: http://nopaste.biz/61471
[21:03] <chris_> adaptr i want only one user to access, but i am behind a firewall so if i can set general read and write that would be fine too. i just need to get it done so i can get some work done
[21:03] <_Ben> ok darkside__ ta
[21:03] <mib_yzjp37> how do i point www.boscoslife.com to /home/boscoslife/public_html instead of my server ip adress
[21:04] <jinja-sheep> Processor Pentium D?  That's x86.  Right? <_<
[21:04] <ZeuRush> yes
[21:04] <_Ben> Witzman, look for a conf file. maybe initd.conf?? somewhere there will be a string that lists what scripts to start
[21:04] <jinja-sheep> Wow.  I felt sorry. :\
[21:05] <mobilephreak> mib_yzjp37 did I misunderstand your question?  Do you want all machines to access the folder or just your local?
[21:05] <cmv583> anyone help with net usershare issue? http://pastebin.com/d49cc7481
[21:05] <adaptr> chris_: what does that mean, "behind a firewall" ? SMB/CIFS does not work behind a firewall
[21:05] <adaptr> mib_yzjp37: that makes no sense
[21:06] <jim_p> !kde
[21:06] <jim_p> !kubuntu
[21:06] <Witzman> cant find a config here
[21:06] <jim_p> is it true that kubuntu 8.10 is on kde4?
[21:06] <mib_yzjp37> mobilephreak i have 3 websites on my server and i need to have e different user accounts with each website pointing to there own /home/profile/public_html/    folder
[21:06] <bazhang> jim_p, yep
[21:07] <sluimers> Hello there, I've got a bit of a problem connecting my wireless Wistron NeWeb Atheros AR50001X+ to my router, can anyone help me with that?
[21:07] <jim_p> bazhang, !@#$%^&*() ok thanks
[21:07] <mobilephreak> mib_yzjp3 are these viewable externally?
[21:08] <Itaku> is there pgp for ubuntu?
[21:08] <nutzer> nutzer
[21:08] <Kartagis> hello
[21:08] <nutzer> nutzer
[21:08] <jim_p> Itaku, it is, but its named gpg
[21:08] <mib_yzjp37> mobilephreak these are viewed via the web i dont know what you mean
[21:09] <matrix> hey does anyone uses lightscribe
[21:09] <Kartagis> kernel: [90070.010188] type=1503 audit(1231535218.960:34): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=113 name="/proc/4428/net/if_inet6" pid=4429 profile="/usr/sbin/named" <--- should I be worried about this message?
[21:09] <mobilephreak> mib_yzjp37 check out apache and virtual hosts - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/
[21:09] <mphill> matrix: i did but it sucks and it's slow
[21:09] <zimnyx> Is there a command that creates mapper devices listed in crypttab ? just like cryptsetup luksOpen ....
[21:09] <bazhang> !info gnupg
[21:09] <Kartagis> !lightscribe
[21:10] <matrix> i am wondering how to add pictures to the emtpy dvd all i see is just enter label text
[21:11] <usr13> sluimers: What seems to be the problem?
[21:12] <danilo> algun usuario de ubuntu
[21:12] <sluimers> usr13, It asks the WPA2 password, even though I've got the correct one filled in
[21:12] <unop> !es | danilo
[21:13] <skimp> anyone run ubuntu on there eee 1000
[21:13] <sluimers> usr13, after a while of attempting to connect that is
[21:13] <matrix> anyone who uses lightscribe can help me
[21:13] <slayton> I wasn to use firestarter to setup internet connection sharing, but I have a lot of packets going across my network on lots of different ports and its going to be nearly impossible to explicitly open those ports.... is there a way to tell firestarter to allow ALL traffic?
[21:14] <sluimers> usr13, I could try to connect again and after a while of attempting to connect it asks for the password again etcetera...
[21:14] <nillerz> I have a small issue involving bittorrent, mounted partitions, and Vista blue screen of deaths.
[21:14] <usr13> sluimers: You say it is a "Wistron NeWeb Atheros AR50001X+" ?
[21:14] <tsh3po_> hi everyone...
[21:14] <Raniets> hmm
[21:14] <sluimers> usr13, AR5001X+
[21:15] <cmv583> Does net usershare returned error 255 ring anyones bells?
[21:15] <chris_> ack
[21:16] <usr13> sluimers: turn off encryption and see if it will connect.
[21:16] <gristus> #windows7 beta is out
[21:16] <Zombie_Gaz> Maybe a silly question here... After i install and remove using apt-get, why are some of the folders and files still present?
[21:16] <X-tremAl_Raven> Got no sound in flash. Ubuntu 8.10, Opera. HDA Intel (Dell Inspiron 640m).
[21:16] <usr13> Zombie_Gaz: How do you know they are still present?
[21:17] <Zombie_Gaz> I can see them.
[21:17] <mker> Zombie_Gaz, you mean in /home/zombie_gaz ?
[21:17] <slayton> anybody know how to get firestarter to allow all inbound traffic?
[21:17] <slayton> anybody know a way to setup internet connection sharing that is as easy to do as with firestarter?
[21:17] <chris_> adaptr i had to use the bathroom did i miss anything?
[21:18] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13 : I can see them in /etc/init.d/
[21:18] <nillerz> I have a setup like this: I have a 10 gigabyte partition dedicated to linux, most of the storage is done on another partition located at /dos which is my windows partition. I'm using Ext2 and NTFS. Recently I tried to see if running uTorrent in Linux, and downloading to the same location as uTorrent in windows would allow me to switch operating systems constantly without doing much to interrupt my torrents. I found that this caused 
[21:18] <usr13> Zombie_Gaz: What exactly did you remove?
[21:18] <Zombie_Gaz> mker: no in other places
[21:18] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13 : an ircd
[21:19] <reportingsjr> Is there any way to undo a partition done while installing ubuntu?
[21:19] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13 was just playing around and seeing how things work with the things. So i installed two ircds and a services to play. Afterwards i apt-get removed... but everything still seems to be there.
[21:20] <chris_> does anyone know how to set permissions for all in samba?
[21:21] <reportingsjr> hello?
[21:21] <abuchbinder> Aha! I've nailed down the source of the failing-DCC-transfers bug in xchat-gnome. It's especially tricky, since it won't show up again once the autoaccept setting has been toggled. I just wanted to brag about it briefly, as it was at least a slightly subtle bug. (Launchpad bug 315549, if anyone's interested.)
[21:21] <TheFunkbomb> hello new friends
[21:21] <TheFunkbomb> quick question if you don't mind me picking your brains
[21:21] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, once you've written to the partition table, your old partitions are gone. There are ways of recovering them, but none of them are very easy or fast.
[21:21] <jussi01> TheFunkbomb: ask away :)
[21:22] <sluimers> usr13, nope, same thing
[21:22] <TheFunkbomb> jussi01, I just installed b43-fwcutter on 8.10 and I don't know how to use it
[21:22] <reportingsjr> abuchbinder: so it's no simple process of like deleting one partition and adding that space to the other one?
[21:22] <TheFunkbomb> I already tried ndiswrapper/ndisgrk with no luck
[21:22] <jussi01> !bcm43xx | TheFunkbomb
[21:22] <TheFunkbomb> well hey, look at that
[21:22] <TheFunkbomb> thanks
[21:22] <pLr> ! I need to know how to kill several Zombie processes (vmware-vmrc) kill -9 doesnt work kill -HUP doesnt work..
[21:22] <usr13> Zombie_Gaz: I don't know for sure but might try: apt-get remove --purge ircd
[21:22] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, Oh, if you're talking about resizing existing partitions, there are ways to do that, yes.
[21:23] <jussi01> TheFunkbomb: also, the device is not listed in restricted drivers?
[21:23] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13 I think I got it... in synaptic manager I found the programs and did a "completly remove"
[21:23] <TheFunkbomb> nope
[21:23] <reportingsjr> abuchbinder: first, how do I delete one of the partitions?
[21:23] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, I'd thought that you'd deleted a partition and wanted to undo it--*that*'s profoundly difficult, to say the least.
[21:23] <kdogg> hello, every now and then when I reboot I come to a initramfs prompt, its getting very annoying.
[21:23] <TheFunkbomb> wait, would fwcutter install it in there?
[21:23] <usr13> Zombie_Gaz: Oh.  So I suppose ircd is a suite of applications.
[21:23] <usr13> Ok
[21:23] <jussi01> TheFunkbomb: then have a look at the links from ubottu ^^
[21:23] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, Is one of the partitions you want to resize or change the one you boot Ubuntu off of?
[21:23] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13: Ya... I did it in the manager but I'm sure that command line is doing the same thing.
[21:23] <TheFunkbomb> jussi01, will do.  Thanks!
[21:24] <pLr> what can i do if my process is not killed by kill -9 ???
[21:24] <pain> !beer | ubottu
[21:24] <pain> =)
[21:24] <werLd> plr: as root, kill -9 doesnt kill?
[21:24] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13 No... I don't think so. I think it just leave some files behind "just in case"? You have to specifically "completly remove". Strange.
[21:24] <TheFunkbomb> it doesn't include 8.10
[21:24] <sebastien> try sudo pkill nameofprocess
[21:24] <Zombie_Gaz> usr13 Thanks
[21:24] <pLr> werLd:  no its zombie
[21:24] <TheFunkbomb> 8.04 is the latest documented
[21:24] <guntbert> pLr: a zombie is already dead - so you cannot kill it anymore, it has only not been "collected" by its parent
[21:25] <pLr> sebastien: pkill doesnt work
[21:25] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, Any monkeying-about with partitions will likely be done with GParted or a similar tool.
[21:25] <TheFunkbomb> you know what?  I gotta just reboot in linux and muck with it until it works
[21:25] <reportingsjr> abuchbinder: thanks :)
[21:25] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, Be careful, now. Changing partitions is very hard to reverse.
[21:25] <TheFunkbomb> hopefully, next time you'll see me will be via ubuntu
[21:25] <pLr> guntbert: can i force collection?
[21:26] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, Also, if you want to resize the partition you're running Ubuntu off of, you'll probably have to boot from a Live CD and run GParted from there. I think Knoppix is well-known for that kind of thing.
[21:26] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, There's a GParted-specific Live CD available here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[21:26] <reportingsjr> abuchbinder: nope, running ubuntu on a different drive completely
[21:27] <Spendius> who's your daddy
[21:27] <sebastien> some information : (only with intrepid) :    http://linux.die.net/man/1/ionice
[21:27] <guntbert> pLr: I don't think so (aside from killing init = rebooting) , but as they are not using any resources, I'd just leave them alone
[21:27] <Kartagis> kernel: [90070.010188] type=1503 audit(1231535218.960:34): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=113 name="/proc/4428/net/if_inet6" pid=4429 profile="/usr/sbin/named" <--- should I be worried about this message?
[21:28] <sebastien> if application take resource too much like k3b or unrar when work
[21:28] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, Oh, never mind then. Yeah, just run GParted. Make sure you read the docs before resizing things. I don't know if you have to unmount partitions before resizing them, etc. It may sound like I'm urging a lot of caution, but I've been bitten by acting too hastily in the past. Check the docs *first*.
[21:28] <abuchbinder> reportingsjr, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/documentation.php
[21:28] <guntbert> !who | sebastien
[21:28] <reportingsjr> abuchbinder: hmm, so I got the other partition deleted but now it wont let me resize the first one!
[21:29] <sebastien> ok sorry, it's for all people
[21:29] <omnydevi> reportingsjr: did you apply the changes?
[21:30] <reportingsjr> omnydevi: yep
[21:30] <sebastien> i have find this command and want to tell it everyone
[21:30] <reportingsjr> omnydevi: it shows the 500 part, then the rest it just says "unallocated"
[21:30] <JohnathanLaws> is it possible for me to dual boot without having to wipe the drive first, for example I have Xp on the computer now can I divide the drive and install Ubuntu on the other without having to wipe?
[21:31] <omnydevi> reportingsjr: yeah, it should just be empty space
[21:31] <omnydevi> reportingsjr: not sure why it wouldnt resize though. but i have never done it this way, i used partition commander 10, heh
[21:31] <JohnathanLaws> but wont like gparted wipe the drive?
[21:31] <guntbert> sebastien: then you should keep your statement in one line, don't press <enter> so often :)
[21:31] <guntbert> !enter
[21:31] <reportingsjr> omnydevi: yep, I right clicked on what is now the only partition, and resize/move is grayed out
[21:32] <omnydevi> reportingsjr: hm, is the part you are trying to resize the part you are on now?
[21:32] <reportingsjr> omnydevi: think I could just use partition commander 10 at this point?
[21:32] <epoch> ubottu, i need some help \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
[21:32] <epoch> lol.
[21:32] <epoch> facepalm
[21:32] <omnydevi> sdk ucp ucp
[21:33] <gandhii> johnathan:  doesnt have to..  you can either resize the partitiion or put all of ubuntu inside a virtual drive that is actually a file on your hard drive...and run it within windows...  I think..  I've never tried the last bit
[21:33] <reportingsjr> omnydevi: nope, it's on a different hd..
[21:33] <JohnathanLaws> ok cool I will try that thanks
[21:33] <omnydevi> hrmm
[21:33] <conal> what's a BIN file?  i want to install Adobe Air (for twhirl), and the linux version comes as a BIN.
[21:34] <epoch> sh file.bin #for installation
[21:34] <omnydevi> reportingsjr: might have to research that one. is it mounted?
[21:35] <conal> epoch: oh!  thx.
[21:36] <helo> how much space does a ubuntu hd install need?
[21:36] <pan> right
[21:36] <conal> AdobeAIRInstaller.bin sure doesn't look like a shell script.  It's binary.
[21:37] <frog_> hi, sorry for beeing offtopc, but can't find a solution, maybe someone here already had this problem...  i have vmware. there is windows as guest installed. i can use ctrl+mouse click to mark some dirs + files  in windows explorer. but in one program i try also to import more files but i can't even mark them. i am only able to mark one. in manual is written, that i should use ctrl+mouse. but it doesn't work for me. any clue? thanks
[21:37] <frog_> i have vmwaretools installed
[21:38] <genii> frog_: You may want to ask in channel #vmware
[21:39] <frog_> genii: they duno there
[21:39] <omnydevi> frog_: is it two windows explorer browsers?
[21:39] <omnydevi> frog_: or 1 explorer and the other from another program?
[21:40] <frog_> omnydevi: 1 (+ one from another program)
[21:40] <wrb123> anyone know why, when i set subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and save, then look at it again, it shows up as "24" ?
[21:40] <chris_> exit
[21:40] <omnydevi> frog_: hmm. you shouldn't be able to make highlights of multiple files in two different programs..its always been like that as long as i can remember
[21:40] <gaintsura> w00000 kernel updates =\
[21:41] <J-_> Does the Wacom Bamboo Small tablet work well with Ubuntu, and the gimp/ inkscape?
[21:42] <frog_> omnydevi: it doesn't work in the program... i only said as an nfo, that i am able to mark in windows explorer
[21:42] <frog_> *info
[21:42] <omnydevi> frog_: so you can only mark in explorer? what is the other program?
[21:42] <omnydevi> frog_: sounds more like a application issue than it does vmware :D
[21:42] <frog_> omnydevi: video deluxe 15 premium
[21:44] <frog_> omnydevi: i would say it is vmware problem.. iirc i already had some similar problem with other programm...
[21:44] <epoch> what's the proper method for installing a .deb file?
[21:44] <epoch> ive been using ubuntu for less than 24 hours
[21:44] <nickrud_> epoch, most common is sudo dpkg -i
[21:44] <epoch> apt install *.deb ro what
[21:44] <Slart_> epoch: double clicking it or running gdebi <debfile.deb> would work
[21:44] <epoch> ok
[21:45] <epoch> ok
[21:45] <epoch> thanks
[21:45] <Starnestommy> epoch: "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" should also work
[21:45] <guntbert> wrb123: pastebin the output of ifconfig and route -n please
[21:45]  * nickrud_ wishes he'd said gdebi, since it handles dependencies iirc
[21:47] <Itaku> is there a flight simulator for ubuntu?
[21:47] <werLd> itaku: yes
[21:48] <colton_> Is it possible to set a keyboard's keys to mean whatever I want them to? (that is, is to set the "h" key to "p" or "return"?
[21:48] <epoch> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[21:48] <werLd> itaku, one min ill get you the name
[21:48] <Slart_> Itaku: check in synaptic, there's a few out there... more or less modern
[21:48] <epoch> is it possible to have xmms on ubuntu or what?
[21:48] <subone> How do I set my TV to a different view/resolution? Here are the details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6521496#post6521496
[21:48] <Storm3y_> Hey all - Quick Q
[21:48] <mr3amer> hi
[21:48] <Slart_> epoch: I think xmms is retired.. try xmms 2 or audacious
[21:49] <Slart_> !xmms
[21:49] <mr3amer> how are you
[21:49] <werLd> Itaku: Flight Gear
[21:49] <Storm3y_> I want to install Ubuntu on a seccond HDD and keep XP on this one - can I make a boot menu so i select what one when I turn my PC up?
[21:49] <epoch> Slart_, i have xmms2 installed, but i dont know how to raise the GUI for it
[21:49] <Slart_> Storm3y_: yes.. grub will let you do that
[21:49] <epoch> its nowhere in Applications
[21:50] <andril> hello all
[21:50] <andril>  any good link for conky?
[21:50] <guntbert> wrb123: after reading your question again - both expressions mean the same. 255.255.255.0 means in 3 bytes all bits are set, and 3*8=24. so 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 = 192.168.1.0/24, its only a different way of representation
[21:50] <giorgio> sorry i dont speak english
[21:50] <TheFunkbomb> hello again
[21:51] <jarco> does anyone have the command to check if ssh is accepting connections on port 22?
[21:51] <Storm3y_> Anyone with any Ideas?
[21:51] <TheFunkbomb> jussi01, you still here?
[21:52] <giorgio> ce qualke italiano????
[21:52] <guntbert> jarco: ssh localhost
[21:52] <guntbert> !it | giorgio
[21:52] <giorgio> ok grazie
[21:52] <jarco> guntbert, it sais: PRNG is not seeded
[21:53] <mr3amer> ho
[21:53] <guntbert> jarco: no idea, sorry
[21:53] <cecil> Storm3y_ when you install ubuntu on the second drive it will add win xp
[21:54] <munk_> can anyone direct me or guide me on how to make a pcmcia D-link air card work on my compaq presario 3000? i dont know how....thank you
[21:54] <jarco> I cant ssh to my machine at port 22. (i have a backport via xen that lets me in). ssh localhost gives me PRNG is not seeded. Any ideas how to solve this?
[21:54] <oCean_> epoch: don't know where it should be, but you can add your own commands to the applications menu
[21:54] <jarco> np guntbert i ve asked again :
[21:54] <epoch> oCean_, i dont even know how to fire it up
[21:54] <epoch> xmms2 in shell failed, xmms2-launcher according to forum worked, but no GUI anywhere
[21:54] <oCean_> epoch: type in a terminal "which xmms"
[21:54] <TheFunkbomb> Maybe someone else will know
[21:55] <guntbert> !ask | TheFunkbomb
[21:55] <oCean_> epoch: ow, type "which xmms2-launcher" ?
[21:55] <epoch> yah /usr/bin
[21:55] <TheFunkbomb> So, I installed b34-fwcutter and looked in the restricted driver menu.  It shows up there but when I click activate, it won't activate.
[21:55] <weatherkid> can someone tell me if there are any POS's for Ubuntu
[21:55] <oCean_> epoch: now right-click on "applications" and add the item where you want
[21:56] <oCean_> epoch: (choose edit menus)
[21:56] <kdogg> hello, every now and then when I reboot I come to a initramfs prompt.
[21:56] <jarco> I cant ssh to my machine at port 22. (i have a backport via xen that lets me in). ssh localhost gives me PRNG is not seeded. Any ideas how to solve this?
[21:56] <Jeruvy> weatherkid: can you define POS please.  If it's what I'm thinking thats not very nice
[21:56] <kdogg> it says busybox, bla bla bla
[21:56] <kdogg> then i have to restart
[21:57] <mrwes> sorry about that one...was showing a n00b
[21:57] <weatherkid> kdogg: You may need to recover you system if it happens more offen. Thats all I know
[21:57] <kdogg> recover?
[21:57] <weatherkid> Point of Sale
[21:57] <kdogg> no
[21:57] <weatherkid> if it happens more offen
[21:57] <weatherkid> kdogg
[21:57] <kdogg> i dont have a point of sale
[21:58] <guntbert> weatherkid: what is your real question?
[21:58] <weatherkid> I helping and asking a question Kdogg
[21:58] <weatherkid> Is there a Point of Sale for Ubuntu
[21:58] <kdogg> oh
[21:58] <kdogg> lol
[21:58] <Meho_> please help this is not working for me the error keeps appearing every time i try to update or install anything
[21:58] <Meho_> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:58] <Meho_> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[21:58] <kdogg> good luck
[21:59] <kdogg> i tried finding a good ts app once for a bar, but everything is dead or expensive
[21:59] <weatherkid> guntbert: ﻿Is there a Point of Sale for Ubuntu
[22:00] <kdogg> oh im sorry i thought you were asking me
[22:00] <gogereaver> weatherkid thats a new one
[22:00] <guntbert> weatherkid: you can download it and burn it yourself or you can order a CD
[22:00] <gogereaver> weatherkid my old job had a point of sale linux os but it was redhat
[22:00] <vigo> weatherkid: you can probably write one and use it with OO?
[22:01] <jaw> Why does Firefox always start on top of everything including the task bars
[22:01] <weatherkid> can you run rpm's on Ubuntu
[22:01] <jaw> the only way to get it down is to select fullscreen mdoe and then exit it
[22:01] <kdogg> jaw F11?
[22:01] <gogereaver> jaw tellit not tobe always on top
[22:01] <oCean_> weatherkid: ubuntu does have a nice shop though (https://usshop.ubuntu.com/category.php?catid=1) :-)
[22:01] <gogereaver> jaw or set your bars that way
[22:01] <saera> i need to share my hp printer over a home network three users two wireless and one wired one not here just now as its a lappy and is in the shop but the other one is here (so two needing linked atm)
[22:01] <Jeruvy> weatherkid: debs, rpm's are not friendly here
[22:01] <vigo> weatherkid: yes, enable rpm in Synaptic
[22:02] <kdogg> heh
[22:02] <Meho_> please someone help i need to install an important app for work and i need this resolved
[22:02] <weatherkid> ok ty
[22:02] <jaw> duh to me,,, didn't even think of that
[22:02] <jaw> thanks
[22:02] <nat2610_> hey, what can I do, my sound has crashed ... it loops over like 1/100s of the sound I was playing and even after closing the browser (I was on pandora) it kept doing it
[22:02] <kdogg> Meho_, ask the question
[22:02] <nat2610_> I can't find what to restart
[22:03] <Meho_> well i tried to press update on ubuntu 8.10 and i get a 11 resoure unavilable error
[22:03] <vigo> If my responses are outdated it is because I am,,,sorta
[22:04] <Meho_> even when installing an appl i get the same error
[22:04] <kdogg> Meho_, did you enable any 3rd party repositories in synaptic?
[22:04] <nicgios> hi all, does anyone has idea about how to change locales from utf8 to ISO-8859-1?
[22:05] <petitjosdu91> quit (bye)
[22:05] <guntbert> Meho_: there seems to be another package manager on your system locking the directory
[22:05] <Meho_> any help is apprichiated
[22:06] <gaintsura> does anyone know if there is a widget that lists currently running processes?
[22:06] <gaintsura> not windows, but processes
[22:06] <nicgios> after installing glx driver I'm experiencing a big trouble... with font encoding...
[22:06] <kdogg> Meho_, did you enable any 3rd party repositories in synaptic?
[22:07] <vigo> gaintsura: yes. I stumbled on one,;ey me see if I can find it again.
[22:07] <Neros> can anyone help me with the atheros drivers? I have a supported card but i continually get HAL13
[22:07] <kdogg> Neros did you check the supported cards list for info?
[22:07] <Souffler> Can anybody assist me?  For some reason I get sound when X isn't started, but within X, my sounddoesnt work and aplay says  have no sound cards
[22:07] <Neros> yeah... it says mine should 'just work'
[22:07] <Jeruvy> nicgios: can you elaborate what is the problem?   If you reverse the update does that fix the problem?
[22:08] <guntbert> kdogg: '<Meho>E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)' indicates a problem NOT with the sources.list
[22:08] <kdogg> guntbert, ty
[22:09] <nicgios> Jeruvy: I'm trying
[22:09] <hbit> hi guys I apt-get the package obm_2.1.9-0ubuntu2_all.deb..after download and in the middle of setup I had to poweroff, how do I continue with th setup now that the package is downloaded
[22:09] <hbit> ??
[22:09] <gogereaver> that normaly means something is using it
[22:09] <guntbert> kdogg: np, I was barking up the wrong tree myself :)
[22:09] <gogereaver> guntbert: kdogg that normaly means its in use by something
[22:09] <Neros> BTW... heres the lspci | grep Wireless
[22:10] <kdogg> that happens to me when I have synaptic open, and im trying to use apt-get in terminal
[22:10] <guntbert> gogereaver: we are talking about Meho's problem
[22:11] <gogereaver> guntbert heh well thats what his message means
[22:11] <Neros> http://cl1p.net/chris37879
[22:11] <Siiimm0n> I need some help with seting up a guest accont. Dont whant the guest to be able to "search files" och click shut down..
[22:12] <guntbert> gogereaver: I suppose so, but in the meantime there is no input from him, so its like reading crystal balls :)
[22:13] <gogereaver> guntbert heh well i cant count how may people think where mind readers
[22:13] <kdogg> shutting off searching for fles seems like a hard tas
[22:13] <kdogg> files*
[22:13] <kdogg> and task* lol
[22:14] <Lana> is there a way to make the userlist show permanently in the copy of xchat that you automatically can download in the ubuntu app manager?
[22:14] <gogereaver> kdogg yea it would changing permissions on some system apps
[22:14] <Lana> I see how to make it display for a moment but not keep it there
[22:14] <Scunizi> Is there a reference site for linux/ubuntu compatible, U.S. available, internal or external Fax Modems?
[22:14] <Jeruvy> !hcl | Scunizi
[22:15] <Ici> hello could somebody tell me where xchat is in the ubuntu system ?
[22:15] <kdogg> what if say you needed to use text editor o some other program, where opening a file is allowed. that open up the file broser dialogue
[22:15] <Scunizi> Thanks Jeruvy
[22:15] <Souffler> Can anybody assist me?  For some reason I get sound when X isn't started, but within X, my sounddoesnt work and "aplay -l" says  have no sound cards, but outside of X it lists my card just fine...
[22:15] <Scunizi> Ici: to load it.. open a terminal and type xchat or under Applications>Internet
[22:15] <Ici> so i m searching for the path
[22:16] <Jeruvy> Ici: it should be path'd already methinks
[22:16] <co0lingFir3> hello, can someone help me with a compiling error: http://pastebin.com/m7e08a89d
[22:16] <unr3a1> hey all, whats the command to backup installed apps?
[22:16] <Scunizi> Ici: unlike windows there is no specific "one" path.. you'll have a hidden directory in your /home for configuration stuff.. As for the rest of it I'm not sure.
[22:16] <mrwes> lci: in a terminal type which xchat  to get the path
[22:16] <Ici> thx all =)
[22:18] <Jeruvy> unr3a1: well there isn't one specific.  You could archive the packages, you could implemet a local repository for packages specific, but why in most cases backing up /home is sufficient.  Can you explain what you seek?
[22:18] <J-_> !wacom
[22:19] <Jeruvy> !tablet | J-_
[22:19] <Jeruvy> I tried ;)
[22:19] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: There is a way to create a list of all the installed packages on the computer.
[22:19] <noodlesgc> !touchscreen
[22:19] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: that is my ultimate goal.  I can backup all necessary data to a flash drive.
[22:19] <Neros> aptoncd is a good thing
[22:19] <starenka> hi, anybody knowws where i can find keyboard codes? i mean how is Fn and "the thing which makes right click" represnted in X? (tried Hyper and some more, but no luck)
[22:19] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: I just need the list of installed packages
[22:20] <Jeruvy> unr3a1: yes are you using this for many machines or just one?
[22:20] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: Just one
[22:20] <mrwes> unr3a1: dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[22:20] <slayton> where does .profile come from? what generates it?
[22:21] <guntbert> starenka: try xev (started from console)
[22:21] <starenka> thanx
[22:21] <Jeruvy> unr3a1: this should do it: dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[22:21] <mrwes> hrmm
[22:21] <mrwes> well said
[22:21] <mrwes> :)
[22:21] <Neros> lol
[22:22] <starenka> guntbert: it's just does nothing. its a white rectangle with black square and it does nothing. what am i doing wrong?
[22:22] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: that was the one I was looking for
[22:22] <unr3a1> mrwes: thank you as well.
[22:22] <Siiimm0n> How do i edit the guest session, no menu, no shutdown possible, only firefox?
[22:22] <Jeruvy> mrwes: :)
[22:23] <usser> Siiimm0n: look up gnome lock down guide on the net
[22:23] <mrwes> well...I'm not lagged :)
[22:23] <guntbert> starenka: thats ok, move the mouse to it and look in the terminal windows, give it the focus and then press keys
[22:23] <usser> Siiimm0n: http://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/
[22:23] <SuperDefenderX> Greetings and Salutations.
[22:24] <SuperDefenderX> How do I get my mom to stop using Windows?
[22:24] <Siiimm0n> usser: thanks..
[22:24] <Scunizi> Jeruvy: I checked the link.. unfortunatly with the proliferation of ethernet and wireless, the good old fashioned fax modem is a piece of hardware that's tough to find info on.  The best I came up with is "winmodems aren't always compatible".  Thanks for the assist though.
[22:24] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: and where does this file get created again?  the home folder, correct?
[22:24] <ralph> where am i??
[22:24] <Jeruvy> whatever dir you're in at the time
[22:24] <Scunizi> you are here.
[22:24] <ralph> ok cool thanks
[22:24] <guntbert> !ot | SuperDefenderX
[22:24] <usr13> SchneeSchwarz_: NO, he is there, I am here.
[22:25] <Jeruvy> unr3a1: whatever dir you're in at the time, so you could specify with /path/to/installed-software
[22:25] <ralph> (new install)
[22:25] <Scunizi> ralph: just another voice in the matrix
[22:25] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: and the command to reinstall all the software packages?
[22:25] <mrwes> unr3a1: dpkg --get-selections > ~/installed-software
[22:25] <Lana> well I'm dumb... I accidentally deleted the default panel and now I can't find out how to put a button there for opening my file manager. help?
[22:25] <mrwes> home directory that way
[22:25] <unr3a1> mrwes: ty
[22:25] <Jeruvy> unr3a1: its a reverse: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software
[22:26] <guntbert> starenka: I got disconnected: was that what you needed?
[22:26] <mrwes> unr3a1: you might want to read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366
[22:26] <zopiac> usb mic tests fine in Sound Prefs, works great in the gnome audio recorder, is set up in Audacity and the level monitor says that it detects noise input, however when i click 'record', it gives an error
[22:26] <SuperDefenderX> How do I get my Mom to stop using Windows and start using Ubuntu???
[22:26] <SuperDefenderX> Is that better?
[22:26] <usr13>  Lana I think it is called "Main Menu"
[22:27] <starenka> guntbert: thanks, mate :the context menu key worked i got the kycode, but not Fn key :(
[22:27] <Jeruvy> SuperDefenderX: no, but it's funnier at least :)
[22:27] <Dr_willis> SuperDefenderX,  let a  Virus/Malware ruin her system..  the tell her she wont habe that issue with linux
[22:27] <mrwes> SuperDefenderX: fdisk her windows partition
[22:27] <unr3a1> Jeruvy: thank you.  I forgot those commands, I appreciate the reminder.
[22:27] <guntbert> SuperDefenderX: no, this is the support-channel, but there is always #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <unr3a1> mrwes: thank you for the link
[22:27] <mrwes> np
[22:27] <Jeruvy> unr3a1: cheers
[22:27] <usr13> SuperDefenderX: Unplug the keyboard and mouse from the Windows computer.
[22:28] <latenzE> Hi people - I have some trouble with my wireless -lan: It seems like I get an IP from my router (DHCP) but I cannot ping it. Anyone got an idea?
[22:28] <SuperDefenderX> I have another question... Actually two of them.
[22:28] <Jeruvy> latenzE: error?
[22:28] <SuperDefenderX> Why do Gorillas have big nostrils? Is it perhaps  that they posses big fingers?
[22:28] <latenzE> None - check it out here:
[22:28] <Zombie_Gaz> I need help with ircd-ircu... Can somone give me a sample O line for the .conf file?
[22:28] <latenzE> http://pastebin.com/d6df9b4f4
[22:28] <guntbert> starenka: when the mouse pointer is over the windows every keypress is logged
[22:29] <saera> please can someone help me set up a network?
[22:29] <starenka> not the FN key mate
[22:29] <usr13> SuperDefenderX: Place it under your left front tire in the driveway and pull forward.
[22:29] <saera> wire and unwired
[22:29] <oCean_> Lana: go to the Places menu, click on the 'home folder' item and drag it on the panel. Should work
[22:29] <saera> two pcs running ibex
[22:29] <starenka> guntbert: i see, but fn key not..
[22:29] <usr13> SuperDefenderX: Yes, you are correct.
[22:29] <Jeruvy> latenzE: hmm I see this: From 192.168.2.102 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable  so you cannot ping via IP then.
[22:30] <guntbert> starenka: strange, here it works..., sorry :(
[22:30] <MTecknology> What am I supposed to install to print?
[22:30] <zeroRooter> hey guys, my mouse(cursor) on ubuntu 8.10 32 bit is EXTREMELY laggy, it litterally teleports all over the screen does anyone have any suggestions?
[22:30] <starenka> nono, it helped at least in half ;))
[22:30] <oCean_> MTecknology: print to what actually?
[22:30] <latenzE> All trouble started when I tried to set my Ubuntu as a Wireless router - with the help of this tut:
[22:30] <latenzE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376283
[22:30] <gogereaver> zeroRooter turn off desktop efects
[22:30] <zeroRooter> i did
[22:30] <starenka> guntbert: nono, it helped at least in half ;)) than you!!
[22:30] <zeroRooter> its on none
[22:30] <MTecknology> oCean_: a printer
[22:30] <gogereaver> zeroRooter buy a better pc
[22:30] <gogereaver> lol
[22:30] <Lana> got the main menu back, but dragging places won't work
[22:30] <guntbert> starenka: fine :)
[22:30] <usr13> zeroRooter: Place it under your left front tire in the driveway and pull forward.
[22:30] <zeroRooter> i builtt my own...
[22:31] <latenzE> (and no backups of course) :'(
[22:31] <nickrud_> zeroRooter, open the system monitor, see if something is chewing up cycles
[22:31] <zeroRooter> ive got a geaforce 4 mx_440
[22:31] <gogereaver> zeroRooter well if the rest of the pc is responding it may be drivers
[22:31] <zeroRooter> ok umm
[22:31] <guntbert> usr13: please stop that, its off topic anyway
[22:31] <zeroRooter> where do i open system monitor
[22:31] <zeroRooter> wait
[22:31] <nickrud_> zeroRooter, system->admin
[22:31] <SuperDefenderX> Are girls who use Linux sexier than girls who don't?
[22:32] <omnydevi> yes
[22:32] <nickrud_> !ot | SuperDefenderX
[22:32] <cocobeware> yes
[22:32] <zeroRooter> k
[22:32] <usr13> guntbert: System -> Administration -> System monitor
[22:32] <gogereaver> SuperDefenderX thats a myth thers no such ting
[22:32] <oCean_> MTecknology: at least 'cups',
[22:32] <Slart_> SuperDefenderX: why not ask them.. I hear they hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <Slart_> =)
[22:32] <Jeruvy> latenzE: did you update your iptables for the change?
[22:32] <saera> !network
[22:32] <SuperDefenderX> Sorry, are girls who use UBUNTU Linux sexier than girls who dont?
[22:32] <cocobeware> what does ubuntu offer that differs from gentoo or debian
[22:32] <latenzE> jes
[22:32] <cocobeware> ?
[22:32] <guntbert> usr13: ?
[22:32] <omnydevi> lol
[22:32] <SuperDefenderX> This is on topic. I'm asking questions about Ubuntu.
[22:32] <gogereaver> cocobewar ease of use
[22:32] <gogereaver> cocobewar working outof the box
[22:32] <lime4x4> is it possible to use 2 different nvidia video cards that use 2 different drivers in 8.10
[22:32] <guntbert> starenka: did you click into the xev-window?
[22:33] <Slart_> cocobeware: I think ubuntu goes for the "it just works" niche..
[22:33] <oCean_> MTecknology: the 'hplip' package is useful when using hp printer
[22:33] <omnydevi> lime4x4: ouch
[22:33] <nickrud_> SuperDefenderX, if you want to be offtopic, join the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is support, not peripheral issues ;)
[22:33] <omnydevi> lime4x4: i wouldnt try that one
[22:33] <usr13> zeroRooter: System -> Administration -> System monitor
[22:33] <zeroRooter> SYSTEM MONITOR is fine about 9 cpu and 106 mb ram, i have 512
[22:33] <MTecknology> oCean_: I can access things via localhost:631 - but I can't print to a printer after setting it up in there
[22:33] <starenka> guntbert: yep, i told ya it worked for one key, but not for the ther
[22:33] <cocobeware> I'm no stranger to compiling from source ie: kernel, packages etc but the ubuntu server lts has peaked my interest
[22:33] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: you install compiz?
[22:33] <latenzE> Jeruvy: Could this be the problem? How could I undo?
[22:33] <cocobeware> specifically the ltsp integration
[22:33] <zeroRooter> compiz?
[22:34] <omnydevi> ok, no you didnt
[22:34] <omnydevi> heh
[22:34] <joejc> what folder does stuff go to when i install it?
[22:34] <zeroRooter> lol
[22:34] <ph30n1x> Hey all!
[22:34] <guntbert> starenka: ok, I thought maybe....
[22:34] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: whats your screen resolution?
[22:34] <Slart_> joejc: depends on what stuff it is..
[22:34] <cocobeware> I work in winnipeg where at least oneof the ltsp devs lives
[22:34] <lime4x4> i don't need compiz or that i just need to run 2 extra monitors
[22:34] <gogereaver> cocobewar wel install it see if its for you
[22:34] <ph30n1x> Anyone tried Mac4Lin?
[22:34] <joejc> songbird
[22:34] <Slart_> joejc: I usually install my own weird stuff in /opt
[22:34] <starenka> guntbert: *other, the "right mouse click" key shown its ode (117), but not the Fn key - trying to remap keyb on my eee
[22:34] <zopiac> ph30n1x im going to in a couple minutes, actually
[22:34] <benzss> is ubuntu 64bit any good these days?
[22:34] <omnydevi> lime4x4: i never tried it. suppose you could, i would google the hell out of how to's though
[22:34] <Slart_> benzss: of course it is
[22:34] <zeroRooter> my screen resolution is 1900x1200 (some thing like that) although i changed it to 1024x784 w/e and it was the same thing
[22:34] <joejc> not there
[22:35] <gogereaver> benzss never was bad
[22:35] <omnydevi> benzss: i use 64, i love it
[22:35] <lime4x4> i tried nothing comes up
[22:35] <Zombie_Gaz> I need help with ircd-ircu... Can somone give me a sample O line for the .conf file?
[22:35] <Jeruvy> latenzE: ah, well make sure you can access your gateway, or you configure your system to act as the gateway which means adding routes to your machines
[22:35] <zopiac> saqme here, with 64bit
[22:35] <gogereaver> benzss just lacked alot of 64 bit 3rd party apps
[22:35] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: hmm. so sounds like it is using the driver
[22:35] <zeroRooter> driver of what piece of hardware
[22:35] <zeroRooter> video card?
[22:35] <cocobeware> funny thing is a minimal install of ubuntu appears to be smaller than the debian one
[22:35] <omnydevi> graphics card
[22:35] <Slart_> gogereaver: oh? what was missing? I've only found a few apps not available
[22:35] <zeroRooter> well ubuntu suplied me with it
[22:35] <omnydevi> if it was vesa you wouldnt get that well of a screen resolution
[22:35] <guntbert> starenka: what about ordinary keys?
[22:36] <cocobeware> and netbase doesn't include inetd which is nice
[22:36] <sharperguy> Right, I'm trying to set up samba on a laptop and when I try to nmap it it says all ports are filtered, anyone know what could be causing this? (the laptop manages to connect to my shares ok)
[22:36] <oCean_> MTecknology: is there any output? Any log? What is "lpc status" output?
[22:36] <latenzE> jeruvy: Well I got a router in the meantime - so adding a route would not make sense,or am I wrong?
[22:36] <omnydevi> so...its either a driver issue, or...something else. i am kinda at a loss, dont know the proper steps to troubleshoot
[22:36] <gogereaver>  Slart_ well of course as 64bit becoming the norm thats has shrunk alot
[22:36] <ewanMCF> #linux-forum.de
[22:36] <sebas__> Hola, Alguien sabe como arreglar para que ande "tvtime" con compiz? No me sale la imagen x.x
[22:36] <latenzE> I can Access the Internet and router with my ethernet
[22:36] <zeroRooter> omnydevi: where should i get a hacked driver for my video card?
[22:36] <gogereaver>  Slart_ when ui finnly buy a laptop it will have a amd64
[22:36] <lime4x4> i tried installing the nvidia 173 driver but then my computer refuses to boot
[22:37] <unop> !es | sebas__
[22:37] <zeroRooter> since the rea driver isnt supported byt he manufacturer anymore
[22:37] <smoalne> helloooo
[22:37] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: you shouldnt need one. Go to System - Administration - Hardware drivers
[22:37] <Jeruvy> latenzE: no, most routers will manage this without special config.  So it may mean less grey hair using a wireless router
[22:37] <Slart_> gogereaver: ah.. I thought you were running 64 bit now and missed a lot of stuff.
[22:37] <zeroRooter> ok
[22:37] <cocobeware> I have gentoo on my old sparcbook3
[22:37] <gogereaver>  Slart_ naa still a good old 32 bit amd hear
[22:37] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: is there an option for more than 1 driver?
[22:37] <starenka> guntbert: anything xcept the fn key... if i do some combination w/ fn key i can see only release event
[22:37] <lime4x4> one card uses 177 the other card uses 173 but the 173 covers both my cards but doesn't install
[22:38] <Zombie_Gaz> I need help with ircd-ircu... Can somone give me a sample O line for the .conf file? Or do O lines go in another file?
[22:38] <guntbert> starenka: bad luck I guess - I gotta go - bedtime :)
[22:38] <zeroRooter> omnudevi: i installed the driver but smae problem, shall ir esatart the computer
[22:38] <latenzE> Jeruvy: Thanks alot, Ill read up a bit on Gateways and Routes.... :)
[22:38] <co0lingFir3> can someone tell me how to install gnome-format?
[22:38] <kattollikisd> ayuda... estoy prohibo de #ubuntu-es por que? :S
[22:38] <zeroRooter> and yeah they told me to install these driver before
[22:38] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: roger, you wont see any changes till ya do mate
[22:39] <zeroRooter> kk
[22:39] <starenka> guntbert: thx, gnite
[22:39] <Jeruvy> latenzE: this is a rather involved setup but may offer some insight: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3866
[22:39] <gogereaver> lime4x4 sli baa
[22:39] <copieser> hee
[22:39] <gogereaver> lime4x4 in short nivida linux drivers dont support it
[22:40] <latenzE> Thanks, Ill read that up, and come back when I dont manage.....
[22:40] <lime4x4> don't need sli one card is a gf 5200 pci the other card is a 7600gt pci-e
[22:41] <gogereaver> lime4x4 they shoulda got configured sepretly
[22:41] <zeroRooter> omnidevi: umm if it doesnt work i also have a 3dfx glide video card, does ubuntu have drivvers for that?
[22:41] <gogereaver> lime4x4 guess im lucky i use ati lol
[22:41] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: which is your monitor hooked up to?
[22:41] <realmatt>  is there a way to have my laptop speakers cut off when I plug in my headphones?  It works automatially in Vista but I can't seem to get it to work in Ubuntu
[22:42] <nickrud_> zeroRooter, yes on 3dfx
[22:42] <MTecknology> oCean_: hrm - apparently it's working now :)
[22:42] <zeroRooter> omnidevi: botht he computer are hooked up to the same monitor and it still doesnt work
[22:42] <gogereaver> realmatt yea mute master
[22:42] <oCean_> MTecknology: yay :)
[22:42] <MTecknology> oCean_: hplip did the trick - thanks :)
[22:42] <gogereaver> realmatt if your headset is contorled sepretly
[22:42] <oCean_> MTecknology: np
[22:42] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: exact same issue still?
[22:42] <zeroRooter> yeah
[22:42] <Slart_> realmatt: it works on some laptops and other just treat headphones and speakers as two separate outputs no matter what you do
[22:42] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: is that one of the newer nvidia cards?
[22:43] <Slart_> realmatt: I've never seen a really good answer for that problem
[22:43] <zeroRooter> no its an old card, geforce4 MX440-8x
[22:43] <Cokaric> is this phone # of ubuntu company 04954408711
[22:43] <omnydevi> zeroRooter: what version of nvidia driver you have installed?
[22:43] <Slart_> Cokaric: why not check the site.. they might have some contact info there
[22:43] <zeroRooter> umm.l. sec
[22:43] <omnydevi> coo
[22:43] <jxander> how could i fix the video playback and by that i mean the fact that all the videos, with any player look like the refresh rate is low or something like that. like the movies were on a pentium 2 :)). i've installed the ati drivers and games work just fine, 3d shooters and all, but all the movies and videos have those horizontal lines like it didn't finish drawing a frame and went to the next. any ideas? please!
[22:44] <gogereaver> zeroRooter that may be your issues nivida has 2 diffrent driver sets legicy and current
[22:44] <bafman> hi
[22:44] <gogereaver> zeroRooter old model cards use legicy
[22:44] <bafman> anyone has idea why kubuntu konsole has pale blue definition of a blue color? How can I change it?
[22:45] <bafman> version 8.10
[22:45] <zeroRooter> omni, gog: version 96
[22:45] <zeroRooter> whats legicy
[22:45] <solis> did ubuntu finally drop the poopy brown colors ?
[22:45] <gogereaver> zeroRooter for old nivida cards
[22:45] <zeroRooter> legacy is software? whee do i get it
[22:46] <nino> i have a USB device recognised @ Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04b0:0406 Nikon Corp. DSC D70 (ptp) where is the /dev/ file for this held at?
[22:46] <Cokaric> someone called me with this number only my mom scared and hang up
[22:46] <jxander> does anyone else have this problem? the video looking like frames don't complete?
[22:46] <gogereaver> zeroRooter i think it would give you issues having a new and old card mixed
[22:46] <solis> hmm not that much reply's to my fairly simple question
[22:47] <zeroRooter> gog: what do you mean about new and old card mixed????????? i only have one video card
[22:47] <fosco_> solis: jaunty stills brown/orange
[22:47] <gogereaver> zeroRooter thought you said a pci-e and normal
[22:47] <zeroRooter> no :P
[22:47] <gogereaver> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[22:47] <solis> thnx fosco_
[22:48] <zeroRooter> i sthats for me?
[22:48] <gogereaver> zeroRooter yep drivers for new and older cards
[22:48] <gogereaver> zeroRooter i think there in apr-get to
[22:48] <gogereaver> zeroRooter yea they are
[22:48] <zeroRooter> kk
[22:49] <oCean_> nino: command "dmesg" might show which /dev/ file is associated (after plugging in usb device)
[22:49] <gogereaver> zeroRooter trying to make it work rtie
[22:49] <zeroRooter> which one do i choose here lol
[22:49] <nino> thanks oCean im trying to get wine to pick my camera up :)
[22:50] <zeroRooter> o wait nvm
[22:50] <gogereaver> zeroRooter whatever serise you use
[22:50] <gogereaver> zeroRooter doing it threw apt well be easer
[22:50] <zeroRooter> my video card isnt listed there :(
[22:51] <nick__> hi
[22:51] <gogereaver> zeroRooter its a serise
[22:51] <zeroRooter> i know, sec ima look throguh this sitr
[22:51] <zeroRooter> site
[22:52] <gogereaver> zeroRooter xx means anything that number
[22:52] <gogereaver> zeroRooter like 96xx would work on a 9650
[22:52] <kraut> where do i change the font-size of gdm, especially of "Login" and "Password"?
[22:52] <razin> why would i get '4 not upgraded' when i do an apt-get upgrade on a fresh install?
[22:53] <kk360> hi there
[22:54] <razin> why would i get '4 not upgraded' when i do an apt-get upgrade on a fresh install?
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> sudo apt-get install -f && apt-get update => might fix it
[22:54] <bazhang> razin, they are being held back, the reasons vary
[22:54] <gogereaver> zeroRooter lookslike a known bug in 8.10 lol
[22:54] <ahklerner> i have kernel mismatch for nvidia driver how do i fix it
[22:55] <zeroRooter> really?
[22:55] <razin> bazhang: this is on a fresh install
[22:55] <gogereaver> zeroRooter yea legicy nividas are broken
[22:55] <bazhang> razin, which packages
[22:55] <razin> linux-generic
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> ahklerner, Ya upgrade/update yer kernel?
[22:55] <zeroRooter> ok umm would 3dfx cideo card work???
[22:55] <nyoue> bonsoir
[22:55] <bazhang> !fr
[22:55] <MTecknology> Myrtti: hugs
[22:55] <razin> and other variants of linux-generic
[22:55] <razin> what a joke
[22:55] <gogereaver> zeroRooter it uses oss tdfx drivers so yea even 3d would
[22:55] <ahklerner> YankDownUnder: is thaqt a question or a statement
[22:56] <razin> this is a FRESH install, so anything broken is the fault of ubuntu
[22:56] <razin> im pretty pissed
[22:56] <bazhang> razin, its not broken
[22:56] <YankDownUnder> ahklerner, Wuzza question
[22:56] <Cokaric> gn8 all
[22:56] <razin> it's not working, it's fucking broken
[22:56] <ahklerner> it had ubdate today
[22:56] <razin> not working = broken
[22:56] <bazhang> watch the language razin
[22:56]  * YankDownUnder covers his virgin eyes
[22:57] <Doc8404> whats the command to look at what video and audio are... for dev/video"X"
[22:57] <MTecknology> razin: You should walk away, relax, and come back to it.
[22:57] <Dr_willis>  '4 not upgraded' because you need to do a 'dist-upgrade' for some packages
[22:57] <Itaku> how do i sex up multimedia keys?
[22:57] <ahklerner> so how do i get my drivers and kernel back in sync
[22:57] <Itaku> set.. crap
[22:57] <MTecknology> Dr_willis: what's wrong?
[22:57] <jimcooncat> Always wondered why some need dist-upgrade
[22:57] <gogereaver> zeroRooter according to gogle the new nivida drivers work but legicy still needs updating
[22:58] <MTecknology> I use full-upgrade for everything
[22:58] <gogereaver> zeroRooter so 8.10 does not install the driver
[22:58] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,  i just noticed today that 4 packages did not upgrade.. had to do a dist-upgrade.. im with jimcooncat  - not sure why some packages need that.
[22:58] <treyk4> is it possible to get a button for shading a window in the window's title bar?
[22:58] <kyon_> Hello, I have a problem with my PHP installation, I need to recompile it with the extra option --enable-zend-multibyte to force PHP to skip BOM headers in files... what should I do ? :-/
[22:58] <MTecknology> Dr_willis: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:58] <YankDownUnder> ahklerner, Er...howzabout upgrading yer kernel, then reinstalling the nvidia drivers?
[22:58] <gogereaver> zeroRooter cant beleved they relesed with such a huge bug
[22:59] <MTecknology> Dr_willis: they do that because the updates are more likely to break things so it's pulled out from the safe-upgrade list
[22:59] <gogereaver> zeroRooter but i guess thats the diffrwence between lts and cutting edge
[22:59] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,  right now for some reason gwenview is being kept back.
[22:59] <ahklerner> YankDownUnder: i am asking how to do that
[22:59] <ahklerner> there are no updates i can apply
[22:59] <Itaku> how do i use the play pause next last and stop button on my keyboard?
[22:59] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,  thats basically what i figured. :)
[22:59] <ahklerner> with synaptic or apt-get
[22:59] <MTecknology> Dr_willis: I wouldn't worry about it and just do the upgrade
[23:00] <YankDownUnder> ahklerner, Well, I'd use the synaptic GUI to do it - first the kernel, the headers and all that jazz, then after that's done and rebooted, the nvidia stuff matey
[23:00] <evilx> how can I install something without a couple of it dependcy?like xfce without xfdesktop and thunar.
[23:00] <zeroRooter> gog: im now installing the fans on my 3dfx
[23:01] <cylux> hey, is there any way to test a hard drive integrity with the ubuntu live-cd?
[23:01] <shoto1699> Hi
[23:01] <ahklerner> YankDownUnder: there are no updates i can apply
[23:01] <gogereaver> evilx you can use no-deps but its more then likly not work
[23:01] <MTecknology> cylux: SpinRite is a better option for HD testing
[23:01] <shoto1699> Anyone know how to install ndiswrapper without the internet onto ubuntu?
[23:01] <Grab> hello
[23:01] <treyk4> The control of my speaker volume seems to be quite a bit out of proportion. Up until at least halfway volume, I can't hear anything. And I don't have any hardware limiting the volume, it's all integrated
[23:01] <cylux> MTecknology: Is it an aplication?
[23:01] <shoto1699> And does anyone know how to install a 2wire driver
[23:02] <YankDownUnder> ahklerner, have you run "apt-get update" and "apt-get install -f" before doing an "apt-get upgrade" or ya do it a different way?
[23:02] <gogereaver> shoto1699 download the deb
[23:02] <Grab> whenever i run an administrator tool or thing, my pc slows down!?!?! how can i understand what the cause is ?
[23:02] <shoto1699> Where can I get the deb?
[23:02] <MTecknology> cylux: no - it's a whole live cd - I'm not sure of anything else that does it offhand
[23:02] <jimcooncat> cylux: badblocks is the tool to test your surface
[23:02] <cylux> MTecknology: Thanks
[23:02] <MTecknology> cylux: hope it helps
[23:02] <shoto1699> gogereaver: where can i get the dev?
[23:02] <Joeseph> Hi.    I have updated my ubuntu machine many times, and occasionally it will ask me if I want to change my menu.lst   ...  I remember editing that so I could add XP dual-boot functionality, so I would always just tell it not to mess with it.....  Does that make it so I don't boot the latest kernel?
[23:02] <AndreasMadrid> hi!
[23:02] <ahklerner> i did sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:03] <evilx> gogereaver, what if I have them already installed, like I cant remove thunar without it removing xfce4
[23:03] <MTecknology> Joeseph: probably is the case
[23:03] <MTecknology> Joeseph: there's specific ways to edit the file
[23:03] <ahklerner> it is the -f
[23:03] <ahklerner> thanks
[23:03] <gogereaver> evilx apt-get -d package name
[23:03] <Grab> please somebody help me above ??
[23:03] <Dr_willis> Joeseph,  very possible.
[23:03] <gogereaver> evilx it will only download the,
[23:03] <ahklerner> maybe not
[23:03] <Treybuchet> halp
[23:03] <Dr_willis> Joeseph,  ive never had issues with letting it update the menu.lst  I do keep backups however :)
[23:04] <jrib> razin: pastebin full commands and output
[23:04] <gogereaver> evilx then they should be in your var/apt/chacie
[23:04] <nickrud_> Joeseph, put the stanza for windows below the ## END AUTOMAGIC line, then you won't have to worry about losing it with a kernel upgrade
[23:04] <MTecknology> Joeseph: Don't edit anything between the lines "## ## End Default Options ##" and "### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[23:04] <sharperguy> Anyone have any idea why when I try to create a samba share by right clicking and pressing sharing, it doesn't actually create the share, and when gnome is restarted, the settings dissapear?
[23:04] <MTecknology> :
[23:04] <AndreasMadrid> I have sound problems. My ALSA worked well until i connected yesterday headphones. since then only shshsh. i tried OSS it worked. I opened vlc without changin anything and suddenly even OSS doesn't render any sound anymore. Reboot diddn't solve the problem. What can I do?
[23:04] <masternelvin> hi, is anyone using seamonkey?
[23:04] <flammenwurfer> hello, is there anyone that can help me with a computer hardware upgrade question and how it will effect my existing installation?
[23:04] <l3d> gufw how would i see whats going on in real time with that firewall. Kinda like the event tab in firetarter is what I am looking for in the gufw. ???
[23:04] <gogereaver> evilx be a good idea to run apt-get clean first
[23:04] <usr13> masternelvin: I use seamonkey
[23:04] <Slart_> !anyone | masternelvin
[23:05] <Joeseph> MTecknology, Dr_willis, nickrud: so as long as xp is after '##End AUTOMAGIC ' line, I should be good?
[23:05] <MTecknology> Joeseph: everything between those lines is dictated by options you set before it and extra menus go after - aside from that, it's safe to let it overwrite things
[23:05] <ahklerner> arghhhh
[23:05] <nickrud_> Joeseph, yes
[23:05] <Grab> !slow
[23:05] <MTecknology> Joeseph: should be - always backup to be sure
[23:05] <Dr_willis> Joeseph,  i just uncomment the example one way above that. :)  that way windows is #1 on the list
[23:05] <flammenwurfer> ok
[23:05] <nickrud_> Dr_willis, that's evil
[23:05] <PowerEd> anyone knows how to fix problem with the initramfs on SATA disks?
[23:05] <Grab> Dr_willis, can you help me?
[23:05] <Treybuchet> My Xorg is having trouble recognizing and wrking with my graphics card, an ATI radeon 9200. I'm trying to use the "radeon" driver, and I
[23:05] <YankDownUnder> Anyone know of an alternative to the "USB Live Stick Install" ..??
[23:05] <TuxMan> hello
[23:05] <Grab> pc slows down when i use sudo !?!?
[23:05] <Treybuchet> ve already tried the "ati" driver
[23:05] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  that way windows is always 0, and ubuntu 1 :) for when i set the defaults
[23:06] <TuxMan> how to get the display.screen number of  X11 server???
[23:06] <Treybuchet> it says no dvices detected
[23:06] <Dr_willis> YankDownUnder,  the 'unetbootin' tool works very well
[23:06] <Slart_> Grab: never heard of that problem before.. can't really think of a reason for it to do that
[23:06] <flammenwurfer> I just got a new motherboard and processor and ram.  Currently I'm on an AMD processor with an nvidia gfx card
[23:06] <Dr_willis> YankDownUnder,  but its unclear what you are asking/wanting.
[23:06] <flammenwurfer> the new mobo will have an amd processor but use the integrated radeon hd3200 onboard gfx
[23:06] <Grab> :(
[23:06] <TuxMan> how to get the display.screen number of  X11 server???
[23:06] <flammenwurfer> will that cause me any problems?
[23:07] <jrib> TuxMan: for what purpose? In what context?
[23:07] <Dr_willis> TuxMan,  try echo $DISPLAY
[23:07] <jxander> any ideas on video distortions?
[23:07] <kyon_> I need a certain compilation option with the php5 module from ubuntu, what should I do ?
[23:07] <nickrud_> flammenwurfer, you may end up in low graphics mode; if so go to system->admin->hardware drivers and enable the ati driver
[23:07] <YankDownUnder> Dr_willis, What I am asking, on the outside chance someone might know, is whether or not there may be an advanced version of the included utility script to create a Live USB installation so that I can cater it to my exact needs and whimsy
[23:07] <jrib> kyon_: are you sure?  You can rebuild the package after editing debian/rules
[23:07] <TuxMan> ok thanks !!!
[23:07] <giorgio> chat in  italiano???
[23:07] <jrib> !source > kyon_
[23:07] <TuxMan> 10x
[23:07] <TuxMan> 10x
[23:07] <FloodBot3> TuxMan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <flammenwurfer> thanks nickrud_, I don't have to disable the nvidia driver before I install everything?
[23:08] <Dr_willis> YankDownUnder,  I just used that tool.. then customuzed the install it made.  Unetbootin has some extra features.. but  it depends on what you wan tto tweak I guess.
[23:08] <Slart_> flammenwurfer: you'll be switching from nvidia to ati.. there might be some . issues with the ati card.. but it might also work just great
[23:08] <kyon_> jrib> thx
[23:08] <AndreasMadrid> I have sound problems. My ALSA worked well until i connected yesterday headphones. since then only shshsh. i tried OSS it worked. I opened vlc without changin anything and suddenly even OSS doesn't render any sound anymore. Reboot diddn't solve the problem. What can I do?
[23:08] <gogereaver> Dr_willis ati drivers are all oss now soo
[23:08] <gogereaver> Dr_willis there qualty has gone up alot
[23:08] <Dr_willis> gogereaver,  ive no idea. :) i dont have any ati systems any more. :P
[23:08] <TuxMan> ok
[23:08] <nickrud_> flammenwurfer, running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical prior to changing the motherboard would cause X to use the open source driver for both cards; not sure which nvidia card you have so can't say if the nv driver supports it
[23:09] <gogereaver> Dr_willis whem amd bought it they opned the drivers
[23:09] <Itaku> how do i use the play pause next last and stop button on my keyboard?
[23:09] <giorgio> come fcc ad andare al canale in italiano????
[23:09] <tritium> !it
[23:09] <nickrud_> !it | giorgio
[23:09] <YankDownUnder> Dr_willis, Cool...will ahve to then dig deeper into the depths of Ubuntu Hades...
[23:09] <flammenwurfer> so worst case scenario it will drop me to a command prompt?  what is the open source driver for ati?
[23:09] <jrib> giorgio: /join #ubuntu-it
[23:09] <_sick> what is wrong with my Ubuntu 6.10 Source.list. "apt-get update" result in alot of "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found" and so on...
[23:09] <PowerEd> anyone knows how to fix the problem with initramfs on ubuntu 8.10, on hd sata initialization?
[23:09] <nickrud_> flammenwurfer, xserver-xorg-video-ati
[23:09] <Treybuchet> My ATI Radeon 9200 is having trouble. When x starts, it says "No Devices Detected", and i run ubuntu in low graphics. I'm trying to use the radeon driver, and the ati driver isn't working either. Cam amyone help?
[23:09] <Slart_> !edgy | _sick
[23:09] <flammenwurfer> how is it listed in xorg.conf?
[23:10] <Dr_willis> gogereaver,  or so they claim. But its never looked like it never lived up to their claims.. of course.. I have no ATI cards any more.. so Its all moot to me.
[23:10] <jrib> _sick: 6.10 is EOL.  That is, it is no longer supported.  You should upgrade to a supported version.
[23:10] <TheFunkbomb> no luck :(
[23:10] <Slart_> _sick: take a look at the End of life there
[23:10] <gogereaver> Treybuchet use the oss driver the binary does not work for old cards
[23:10] <nickrud_> flammenwurfer, ati
[23:10] <Slart_> !eol | _sick
[23:10] <gogereaver> Treybuchet oss drivers have 3d acell
[23:10] <Treybuchet> i am
[23:10] <flammenwurfer> sweet, thanks
[23:10] <masternelvin> can someone tell how to upgrade to seamonkey 1.1.14?
[23:10] <GraphicRecursion> I don't know if this is the right place to ask for help, but if there is someone there that can help me I would be most appreciative.
[23:10] <Treybuchet> using the oss drivers
[23:10] <PowerEd>  anyone knows how to fix the problem with initramfs on ubuntu 8.10, on hd sata initialization? please, i dont found anything that match on forums!
[23:10] <TheFunkbomb> oh crap, I forgot my password
[23:10] <Slart_> !ask | GraphicRecursion
[23:10] <Treybuchet> it still doesn't work
[23:10] <_sick> ok thank you. but why it was the only version i could choose at my vServer ? how can i update it ?
[23:10] <jrib> _sick: vServer?
[23:10] <gogereaver> Treybuchet sometimes with those old atis you need to put what slot its using in xborg
[23:11] <_sick> yes
[23:11] <Treybuchet> ah
[23:11] <YankDownUnder> Dr_willis, Er...not sure if I'm wanting to do net installs but...was more after specialised partitioning...
[23:11] <jrib> _sick: what is vServer?
[23:11] <_sick> brand new ^^
[23:11] <flammenwurfer> thanks for the help guys, Ima start tearin stuff apart now :D
[23:11] <_sick> VirtualServer
[23:11] <Treybuchet> like, the specific pci slot?
[23:11] <gogereaver> Treybuchet yea
[23:11] <Treybuchet> ah
[23:11] <Treybuchet> what would the syntax for that be?
[23:11] <nickrud_> flammenwurfer, I suggest you install irssi and elinks first, so you have access here if needed ;)
[23:11] <PowerEd> i'm here for 3th time, and don't have answer.
[23:11] <gogereaver> Treybuchet man been so long i forgot how
[23:11] <nickrud_> dang
[23:11] <Treybuchet> ah
[23:11] <Treybuchet> hmm
[23:11] <jrib> _sick: that tells me nothing.  If it's some sort of virtual server you are paying for, tell them that 6.10 is EOL and you would like a supported version of ubuntu
[23:11] <gogereaver> Treybuchet its a grep command thow
[23:12] <Joeseph> alright.... I'll see if I can still dual boot..
[23:12] <ryanakca> At boot, how can I have my swap be decrypted *after* my home partition? (the key is a file on /home, both partitions are in my crypttab, LUKS)
[23:12] <Dr_willis> YankDownUnder,  the main feature of the usb-live-thing-installer is it can make a live-usb thumbdrive.. with a persistant home/storage - that you can then tweak  a bit. Its not perfect.. but it works well on my systems
[23:12] <Treybuchet> k
[23:12] <nickrud_> Treybuchet, lspci | grep -i vga
[23:12] <gogereaver> Treybuchet i think grep  | pci
[23:12] <Slart_> PowerEd: it happens.. some questions we just don't know the answers to.. or everyone might not have seen the question.. what was the problem?
[23:12] <nickrud_> Treybuchet, the   BusID "2:0:0" most very likely
[23:12] <PowerEd> how to fix the problem with initramfs on ubuntu 8.10, on hd sata initialization?
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> Dr_willis, Yeh know that matey. Wanted to "customise" that particular installation and rather do away with squashfs stuff - and also have several partitions for storage of "alternative" utilities and data...
[23:13] <nickrud_> Treybuchet, *then,  BusID "2:0:0" in the device section of xorg.conf most likely
[23:13] <Dr_willis> YankDownUnder,   try it and see i guess.. I set mine up to use the nvidia drivers and  a few other thigns.. but thats about it.
[23:13] <Treybuchet> k
[23:13] <Treybuchet> thanks
[23:13] <Treybuchet> that works
[23:13] <Slart_> PowerEd: I wasn't even aware there were a problem.. you might get better answers by not assuming your problem is well known.. describe it.. or give us the link to the launchpad bug
[23:13] <GraphicRecursion> !ask I'm having a problem after an install of Ubuntu Server 8.10 64bit, I couldn't get the install to go through with out adding the parameter pci=nomsi and using the noapic" and "nolapic" options. I installed on a SATA drive and my motherboard is nForce XFX 750a SLI (I believe this mobo is the source of my woes). The install went successfully but when I reboot I drop into the busy box prompt.
[23:14] <usr13> masternelvin: apt-get remove seamonkey and then download the tarball and compile from source.
[23:14] <fcghjkl> i searching for fs like unionfs, but with writing feature (only whole file on partiton with most free of space (free space detecting automaticaly while writing file(s) ) )
[23:14] <gogereaver> Treybuchet you may have to enable dri manuly to get 3d working
[23:14] <Slart_> GraphicRecursion: ah.. no need for the !ask thingy =)
[23:14] <gogereaver> Treybuchet 9200 cards are a bit tricky i had one
[23:15] <Melik> hey anyone have trouble with nvidia and xorg on jaunty?
[23:15] <ferguscan> hi guys.  I'm getting the usual sound problems in Intrepid (and had them in Hardy before the upgrade).  But the commonly posted fixes aren't working for me.  I get sound when Ubuntu boots (i.e. that funny music after login).  But nothing after that.  Can anyone point me to where I should look deeper.
[23:15] <jrib> Melik: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty help
[23:15] <GraphicRecursion> Oh well someone told me to use !ask
[23:15] <asdf2> hi there, i've some trouble to get the vmwaretools working, when i try to install em i get this error. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4782/ubuntusm1.png
[23:15] <jrib> GraphicRecursion: !ask is just for the bot to tell you just to ask your question
[23:15] <asdf2> any suggestions ?
[23:15] <YankDownUnder> Dr_willis, One of the sticks I use I take to many different inet cafes and customers houses - so I have it setup to use many different vid drivers...however, I'd like to customise a 16gb'er for utility and security work...
[23:16] <Slart_> GraphicRecursion: stuff starting with ! is usually commands to the bot.. (ubottu is the name).. it's just a way to answer often asked questions
[23:16] <GraphicRecursion> Oh
[23:16] <GraphicRecursion> alright well does anyone know a solution to my problem?
[23:16] <ryanakca> At boot, how can I have my swap be decrypted *after* my home partition? (the key is a file on /home, both partitions are in my crypttab, LUKS)
[23:16] <Slart_> GraphicRecursion: if you write !ask ubottu will answer with some advice on asking questions. there are lots of commands and help available.. try typing !help for more info
[23:16] <GBJersey> hello folks, can anyone of you good people give me some advice with CONKY please??
[23:16] <rainabba> What is the proper way to add "startup scripts" in X (such as for synergy or compiz) ?
[23:16] <Slart_> GraphicRecursion: do you get any error messages?
[23:16] <jrib> GBJersey: just ask your question
[23:17] <Slart_> !sessions | rainabba
[23:17] <GraphicRecursion> yeah hang on I have to switch monitors
[23:17] <Slart_> !session | rainabba
[23:17] <dimitar> hello. I have problem with my sound(actualy i don't have  it). I checked master volume and its on full
[23:17] <rainabba> Slack_: ty
[23:17] <gogereaver> GraphicRecursion thats normal
[23:17] <gogereaver> GraphicRecursion you have power mangment disabled
[23:18] <GBJersey> the problem is with installation of conky, "configure: error: Can't locate your X11 installation"
[23:18] <gogereaver> GraphicRecursion to shutdown from text just use sudo hult or reboot
[23:18] <jrib> GBJersey: do you know about APT?
[23:18] <Slart_> GBJersey: how are you installing conky? apt-get? synaptic? something else?
[23:18] <voox> i have ubuntu installed without a swap partition, I just made a swap partition, how do I make ubuntu use it?
[23:18] <Slart_> !swap | voox
[23:19] <Slart_> voox: check that link.. the command you're looking for is "swapon" I think
[23:19] <voox> Slart_, k thanks
[23:19] <jrib> voox: you probably also want to add it to your fstab
[23:19] <usr13> voox: swapon
[23:20] <voox> so swapon + adding to fstab?
[23:20] <GBJersey> i`m totally green unfortunately, I`m doing everything acording to the readme file from the package conky-1.6.1.tar.gz
[23:21] <Slart_> GBJersey: apt is the normal way to install software in ubuntu.. it's much much simpler.. updates are handled for you.. no compiling etc..
[23:21] <bastid_raZor> GBJersey; there is a #conky channel that may be of great assistance
[23:21] <usr13> voox: You will need to look for the swap entry in /etc/fstab if it's not there, add one.
[23:21] <jrib> GBJersey: you don't download things manually to install software on ubuntu.  Instead you use the repositories with the help of programs like Add/Remove or Synaptic.  conky is available in the repositories
[23:21] <Slart_> GBJersey: just open a terminal and write "sudo apt-get install conky" and you're done
[23:21] <TheFunkbomb> Is anyone here familiar with fwcutter in 8.10?
[23:21] <voox> usr13, oh okay thnks
[23:21] <Slart_> !anyone | TheFunkbomb
[23:21] <TheFunkbomb> errrr b43-fwcutter
[23:21] <RemsSs> hi everybody i have installed conky today
[23:21] <RemsSs> lol
[23:21] <TheFunkbomb> Okey dokey
[23:21] <kyon_> Ok, so I downloaded the source of the PHP package ; now where should I add my extra compilation option ? :-S sorry if I sound silly, but I just can't figure out where it should be
[23:21] <GBJersey> cheers for your help, I`ll try it
[23:21] <jrib> kyon_: debian/rules
[23:22] <jrib> kyon_: what exactly are you adding by the way?
[23:22] <Treybuchet> How do I manually enable DRI
[23:22] <Treybuchet> ?
[23:22] <TheFunkbomb> So, I have used b43-fwcutter and now the b43 driver shows up in the restricted drivers menu but it won't let me activate it.  Can anyone lend a hand?
[23:22] <kyon_> just a --enable-zend-multibyte to the list of compilation options of PHP
[23:22] <Slart_> GBJersey: there's also synaptic package manager in the system, administration menu.. it does the same thing but with a nice gui for searching/installing/uninstalling etc
[23:23] <GBJersey> and one more question do i have to reboot system to apply changes in conky?
[23:23] <werLd> Treybuchet: i believe you can manually enable DRI party thru xorg.conf
[23:23] <jrib> GBJersey: no
[23:23] <Jeruvy> TheFunkbomb: System -> Administration -> Restricted
[23:23] <Treybuchet> I know that
[23:23] <Slart_> TheFunkbomb: hmm.. nope.. don't know much about that.. but hopefully someone else does.. if you don't get any answers repeat it once every 5 minutes or so
[23:23] <kyon_> BOM headers cause my application to crash, and it seems that the absence of that option on compilation is the cause of it
[23:23] <Treybuchet> but I'm not sure completely how to do that
[23:24] <TheFunkbomb> Jeruvy, yes, I have gone there.  But when I press activate, it doesn't activate
[23:24] <jrib> Treybuchet: what is your actual goal?
[23:24] <Treybuchet> i have an idea, but I'm not sure
[23:24] <Jeruvy> TheFunkbomb: errors?
[23:24] <Treybuchet> to get my graphics card working with 3D acceleration
[23:24] <TheFunkbomb> Jeruvy, no errors.  Just doesn't activate.
[23:24] <jrib> Treybuchet: what card?
[23:24] <Treybuchet> ATI Radeon 9200
[23:24] <Jeruvy> TheFunkbomb: check /var/log/messages
[23:24] <TheFunkbomb> okay.  How do I do that?
[23:24] <jrib> Treybuchet: does system -> administration -> hardware drivers  not work?
[23:25] <Treybuchet> i suppoes that works too...
[23:25] <Treybuchet> nevermind
[23:25] <Jeruvy> TheFunkbomb: tail -x /var/log/messages  x= number of lines to review
[23:25] <Treybuchet> gotta go
[23:25] <SmokeyD1> hey people. What exactly does /etc/cron.daily/apt do? I know what a cron job does, but where does this particular one come from?
[23:25] <TheFunkbomb> okay
[23:25] <Slart_> SmokeyD1: automatic updates perhaps?
[23:25] <rainabba> Slack_: Making changes as you suggested effects /usr/share/gnome/default.session, or something in the user home folder?
[23:25] <SmokeyD1> Slart_: I was guessing something like that, but I want to be sure
[23:26] <SmokeyD1> Slart_: and can it log the available update somewhere?
[23:26] <jrib> SmokeyD1: did you try reading it?  It has some comments at the top
[23:26] <SmokeyD1> which package doe it belong to so I can read up on the docs
[23:26] <Slart_> rainabba: ehm.. I'm not sure where the session stuff is stored. I would guess somewhere in the home folder but I'm not sure
[23:27] <SmokeyD1> jrib: yes, it 255 lines long
[23:27] <jrib> SmokeyD1: not the comments at the top
[23:27] <_dark__> anyone had a problem getting zsnes to work on ubuntu 8.10? I installed it from add/remove applications but nothing happens when I click the icon
[23:27] <Slart_> SmokeyD1: I have no idea how the automatic updates system works..sorry..
[23:27] <SmokeyD1> jrib: it only explains a couple of configuration options, but not where I can set them
[23:28] <SmokeyD1> they are definately not standard bash variables
[23:28] <erpo> When I download files from my server via SSH and 802.11g wireless, I only get about 1.4MB/s. Using http gets me around 2.2MB/s. What gives?
[23:28] <Doc8404> anyone know what a libtoolize failure is when creating an installation autogen...
[23:28] <jrib> SmokeyD1: man apt.conf   would be my guess
[23:29] <Slart_> erpo: all kinds of files?
[23:29] <dcherniv> erpo: encryption overhead probably
[23:29] <erpo> Slart_: Everything I've tried.
[23:29] <Siiimm0n> what desides with what menu applications to show on a new user?
[23:29] <erpo> dcherniv: Nope. CPU usage is hovering around 10% on both machies.
[23:29] <SmokeyD1> jrib: thanks. Didn't know it was there
[23:29] <erpo> dcherniv: *machines.
[23:29] <idejmcd> i have an unpartitioned section on my hard drive, is there a way i can combine it with another partition?
[23:30] <erpo> Besides, this problem is new with 8.10.
[23:30] <Fractured> i wish Giver displayed the speeds
[23:30] <kafaen> anyone know how i get ubuntu to stop asking for login pass from suspend?
[23:30] <Slart_> erpo: just a wild guess here.. an encrypted file is pretty random ie hard to compress.. downloading plain files might compress better.. but that's just a wild guess
[23:30] <usser> erpo: i noticed that ssh is slower over here to, i always blamed it on that :)
[23:30] <rben13> hi
[23:30] <erpo> Slart_, usser: I'm sure it's not that. This problem started with 8.10.
[23:30] <fryfrog> So my friend has an Ubuntu box where the kernel loads the soft raid (md) modules during boot *BEFORE* the ide/sata modules.  So it does not see the disks.
[23:30] <Slart_> erpo: and of course.. encryption overhead too, as usser said
[23:31] <ryanakca> At boot, how can I have my swap be decrypted *after* my home partition? (the key is a file on /home, both partitions are in my crypttab, LUKS)
[23:31] <erpo> Slart_: CPU usage is very low on both boxes.
[23:31] <fryfrog> Is there any way to get the kernel to load the ide/sata drivers first?
[23:31] <usser> ryanakca: why do u encrypt swap in the first place?
[23:31] <Slart_> erpo: then I have no idea.. some new kernel stuff that isn't quite as optimized as it was in the older kernel perhaps?
[23:31] <rben13> I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my Vista machine. I used Wubi to install it, then restarted to get into it. For some reason, it only starts up properly every other time.
[23:31] <usser> ryanakca: how do you decrypt /home if the key is on /home?
[23:32] <Slart_> usser: sensitive stuff can end up in the swap.. if you're really really paranoid
[23:32] <Doc8404> can someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/m33f27ee5
[23:32] <Doc8404> what do i need to do
[23:32] <idejmcd> i am duel booting want to make my windows partition larger.  there is an unallocated sector of my HD that i wish to use to do this. is it possible?
[23:32] <Slart_> usser: or rather.. it can end up in the swap regardless of your paranoia-level but it might only be a problem if you're paranoid about it =)
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Doc8404, paste a description of the problem not just a link
[23:33] <usser> Slart_: yea but, in order to steal your computer the thiefs have to power it down :). but i see the point
[23:33] <Doc8404> im trying to install gyachi-1.1.60 but its giving me a libtoolize error and then it stops creating the autogen.sh
[23:33] <Slart_> usser: yes.. I agree.. if they are stealing my swap I think I have enough problems as it is =)
[23:33] <rben13> It can't find libtoolize
[23:34] <rben13> Make sure it's in the path
[23:34] <Doc8404> hmm... i have no idea where libtoolize needs to be for this to work, or even if its installed
[23:34] <jrib> Doc8404: install libtool.  You probably also want automake autoconf and build-essential if you haven't already installed them
[23:35] <rben13> If you use the regular install programs stuff, it takes care of where to put stuff
[23:35] <Slart_> rben13: yes
[23:35] <rben13> Installing by hand if you don't know what you are doing can be tricky
[23:35] <rben13> I know, because I seldom know what I'm doing
[23:35] <ryanakca> usser: Because, well, if the power goes out, and I'm not there to restart the computer / safely turn it off, the passphrase to the encrypted devices remains, in plaintext, on the swap partition. And, the *swap* key is on /home. The home key is a passphrase.
[23:36] <ryanakca> s/is on/is a file on/g
[23:36] <rben13> ryanaka, maybe you should work in a vault :)
[23:36] <ryanakca> rben13: *cough* big brother *cough*
[23:36] <rods> howdy!
[23:37] <rben13> lol
[23:37] <rods> I could use some help with VirtualBox. I'm not sure how to get my sound working (I believe I need to do guest additions?)
[23:37] <agentdenton> hello there. I'm am downloading ubuntu 8.10 from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download Is that a live distro too?
[23:37] <ryanakca> rben13: if I had the funds, I probably would... I could buy one of those abandoned cold war missile bunkers... :P
[23:38] <Jeruvy> ryanakca: quit coughing around me :)
[23:38] <jrib> agentdenton: the desktop cd is also a live cd, yes
[23:38] <Slart_> agentdenton: the regular install cd is a lice cd too
[23:38] <Doc8404> jrib it also says this  macro `AM_PATH_GTK_2_0' is missing? any ideas?
[23:38] <agentdenton> thanks you all
[23:38] <Slart_> agentdenton: *live =)
[23:38] <Doc8404> and thanks
[23:38] <rben13> So, can anyone speculate as to why my wubi/kubuntu install would only boot to kubuntu correctly every other time, and would restart on the times it didn't work?
[23:38] <Doc8404> jrib and `AM_PATH_GLIB_2_0'
[23:38] <Slart_> rben13: wubi is weird even when it works. =)
[23:38] <rben13> joy
[23:38] <jrib> Doc8404: you need to read the INSTALL and README files and install the dependencies you need.  I assume you want the -dev packages for gtk and glib
[23:38] <rben13> So I should just install from CD
[23:39] <Doc8404> jrib the readme file unfortunatly only has 3 lines it....
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> rben13, yes
[23:39] <eseven73> yep hop down off that fence and install that bad boy rben13 :)
[23:39] <rben13> If I install from CD over an older Ubuntu 32-bit installation, will it keep my data files and such, or will I have to restore them from backup?
[23:39] <rben13> I'm installing 64-bit
[23:40] <rben13> I just rebulit my machine, so haven't got the Ubuntu drive booting yet
[23:40] <idejmcd> is it possible for me to resize my windows partition with Partition Manager?
[23:40] <Slart_> rben13: I would be careful if I did that.. not sure if it formats partitions or not.. make backups
[23:40] <Nibblyn> I have two computers networked via ethernet to each other directly (no router): the first, a XP machine, is connected to a DSL modem via USB, the second is an Ubuntu. Is it possible to connent Ubuntu through XP (acting as a DHCP server?) to the internet?
[23:40] <edmont> hi
[23:40] <rben13> Already have backups, but am very cautious by nature
[23:40] <Slart_> idejmcd: I think gparted supports resizing of ntfs drives
[23:41] <rods> I could use some help with VirtualBox. I'm not sure how to get my sound working (I believe I need to do guest additions?)
[23:41] <edmont> how can i reconfigure alsa&pulseaduio to defaults?
[23:41] <idejmcd> slart_, ok i'll try that
[23:41] <angel> hola
[23:41] <Lana> anyone know of an instant messenger program that supports webcams that I can use with ubuntu?
[23:41] <rccu> Kopete
[23:41] <edmont> Lana: not sure, but try amsn
[23:41] <eseven73> you dont need guest additions for sound, rods, power down the vm if its on and go to its settings, you'll see sound options there.
[23:41] <rben13> One last silly question, If I have 3 drives, one is Vista, one Windows XP, and the other is Ubuntu, is there a way to set up triple boot?
[23:42] <Lana> ok thanks, I'll check it
[23:42] <Slart_> rben13: sure
[23:42] <rben13> That doesn't involve moving cables :)
[23:42] <Slart_> rben13: grub can handle that for you
[23:42] <Slart_> rben13: no moving of cables.. just a simple menu
[23:42] <rben13> I can deal with menus
[23:43] <rben13> long time ago I used to move cables to switch
[23:43] <edmont> how can i reconfigure alsa&pulseaduio to defaults? sound it is failing, but it works with OSS
[23:43] <SmokeyD1> hey people. I am getting "WEB-MISC Invalid HTTP Version String" alerts in snort when I am running apt-get update or apt-get install
[23:43] <SmokeyD1> anybody any ideas?
[23:43] <Slart_> rben13: mm.. most motherboards have some kind of software version of that too.. but grub can do it better imho
[23:43] <SmokeyD1> same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/258155
[23:44] <rben13> Ok, I also had problems when booting from LiveCD Kubuntu, but when I boot from it, I get an unusable screen that is the wrong resolution. Can't find any buttons
[23:44] <Slart_> rben13: the only thing that might be a problem is dualbooting with os X.. I think it boots in some weird way
[23:44] <rben13> That's why I used Wubi
[23:44] <Slart_> rben13: hmm. it's the same with regular ubuntu?
[23:45] <rben13> No, for some reason regular Ubuntu seems to work great
[23:45] <rben13> I do have nVidia 9800 GT card
[23:45] <rben13> But Ubuntu seems to work with nVidia now
[23:46] <Slart_> rben13: odd.. I thought kubuntu and ubuntu shared the basic stuff such as drivers and such
[23:46] <rben13> Same here, but of course, I think the window manager is different
[23:46] <Slart_> rben13: you could try asking in #kubuntu
[23:46] <tyta_linux> My wireless card doesn't initialize 1 in 5 times upon startup.  A restart ALWAYS fixes the issue.
[23:46] <rben13> I was really confused
[23:46] <tyta_linux> I posted here
[23:46] <cocobeware> xfce is the best
[23:46] <tyta_linux> I tried the command suggested and got an error
[23:47] <tyta_linux> sorry posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034009
[23:47] <rben13> I'll check kubuntu
[23:47] <rben13> Is gnome considered better than KDE or just different?
[23:47] <rben13> I've always kind of been partial to KDE
[23:47] <Slart_> rben13: just different
[23:48] <cocobeware> xfce is the best
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rben13, User preference,
[23:48] <Doc8404> yeah i have to figure out what i need to sudo apt-get install to make these things work in the creating of the install file http://pastebin.com/m3c289418
[23:48] <Slart_> rben13: or.. perhaps a little better with the new kde 4
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cocobeware, STOP it
[23:48] <cocobeware> gnome and kde are bloated fat asses
[23:48] <rben13> Yeah, I want the new KDE4, like shiny new toys
[23:48] <Slart_> rben13: but as Jack_Sparrow said.. it's mostly personal preferences
[23:48] <agentdenton> what's the current ubuntu code name? it's not hardy I hope is it?
[23:48] <Barridus> intrepid
[23:48] <Slart_> agentdenton: intrepid ibex
[23:48] <agentdenton> oh nice thanks
[23:48] <cocobeware> hardy == lts
[23:48] <Slart_> !intrepid | agentdenton
[23:49] <Barridus> (i think hardy runs better if you're looking to choose)
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rben13, http://xwinman.org/
[23:49] <agentdenton> actually I was reading about netistallation problems with hardy so I rather avoid it
[23:50] <sharperguy> how do I share a printer with samba on intrepid?
[23:50] <rben13> ok, so window manager is independant of desktop
[23:50] <Slart_> rben13: yes
[23:50] <rben13> But, it might still be that kubuntu is configured to use a different one
[23:50] <savid> Does anyone here use i8kutils?  (i8kmon, i8kfan, etc..)?   I've been having annoying issues w/ my fan for quite awhile.  It's as if the i8kfan utility can only set the fan speed for a second or so until something else turns it off
[23:51] <Barridus> agentdenton, ok your choice, that's why they're swell for offering both XD
[23:51] <askand> How can I get the toolbox to stay in front of the picture/workarea when using gimp and compiz?
[23:52] <tyta_linux> My wireless card doesn't initialize 1 in 5 times upon startup.  A restart ALWAYS fixes the issue.  I posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034009  What is a terminal command that will turn on my wireless?
[23:52] <jrib> askand: right click on the title bar -> always on top  work?
[23:53] <askand> jrib: thanks
[23:53] <MOUD> Hello again
[23:53] <l337a> Hai
[23:53] <rben13> Thanks for the help guys, wife wants to eat
[23:53] <rben13> Have to bolt
[23:53] <l337a> Om nom nom nom
[23:53] <l337a> How does everyone here like Ubuntu?
[23:53] <l337a> Is it good?
[23:54] <MOUD> well, it's fast for me
[23:54] <tyta_linux> I tried 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up'
[23:54] <Slart_> l337a: works for me
[23:54] <jrib> l337a: please use #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss non-support topics
[23:54] <eseven73> askand: if you have KDE and run windows effects you can control each window independantly and have it stay on top, change its opacity, and 100 other things.
[23:54] <filialguy> so far I'm liking it
[23:54] <l337a> Aye aye, jrib.
[23:54] <Slart_> l337a: but what did you expect from a question like that =)
[23:54] <MOUD> it has nice features, and the internet is way faster than on windows
[23:55] <RB2> Evening. I have an nVidia 8800GTS and since I upgraded to 8.10, I haven't been able to get the restricted drivers to function correctly. Is this a known issue and is there a solution short of a fresh install?
[23:55] <filialguy> loading of apps have been a little slow though
[23:55] <eseven73> MOUD because linux has no spyware=faster net :)
[23:55] <l337a> You can install the drivers manually via apt.
[23:55] <MOUD> RB2: evening
[23:55] <mogi22> i am setting client hostnames via dhcp (client sets) and i see it in the leases file on server, but since upgrading all to hardy, i cant ping those hostnames on LAN.  where do i start to troubleshoot?  dhcp server is running bind too.  all worked fine on feisty/gutsy
[23:55] <MOUD> eseven73: agreed
[23:56] <batcoder-7> whoa 1,340 holy crap
[23:56] <RB2> Hi MOUD
[23:56] <MOUD> RB2: Restricted drivers doesn't work
[23:56] <batcoder-7> I use xubuntu right now but for some reason i get this major feeling that I should be using ubuntu
[23:56] <batcoder-7> hmmmm
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> batcoder-7,  http://xwinman.org/
[23:56] <MOUD> RB2: Use synaptic package manager for the driver
[23:56] <eseven73> batcoder-7: personal choice really
[23:56] <Slart_> mogi22: you can check if the dns is updated as it should when dhcp leases an ip
[23:57] <filialguy> I feel like some of the apps lag when I open them and do other stuff
[23:57] <WeezzZ> !connect irc.voila.fr
[23:57] <Slart_> mogi22: it might also be nmdb that did the name resolution for you
[23:57] <MOUD> RB2: I'll tell you what to select
[23:57] <jrib> batcoder-7: you don't have to choose, you can use both.  xubuntu and ubuntu just differ by the default packages installed.  Installing ubuntu-desktop will give you the option at the login screen to use gnome
[23:57] <matrix> hey all iam usin bittorent every 3-4 minutes its shuting down
[23:57] <mogi22> Slart_, how do i check the dns
[23:57] <batcoder-7> jrib: ah
[23:57] <WeezzZ> \connect irc.voila.fr
[23:57] <batcoder-7> but for some reason from 8.04 to 8.10 it feels like 8.10 got heavier
[23:57] <WeezzZ> huhu
[23:57] <Slart_> mogi22: oh.. dig is one tools.. there might be others too
[23:57] <filialguy> I don't know if it's because I've installed the 64-bit version on a core2duo though
[23:57] <WeezzZ> how to connect to another server ???
[23:57] <Slart_> !info dig
[23:57] <Slart_> bah
[23:57] <RB2> MOUD, thanks! I currently have the 177 package installed.
[23:58] <WeezzZ> !connect irc.voila.fr
[23:58] <tyta_linux> =(
[23:58] <batcoder-7> did 8.10 get more bloat ?
[23:58] <jrib> Slart_: dnsutils it seems
[23:58] <Slart_> mogi22: I think it might already be installed.. try dig www.google.com in a terminal
[23:58] <Slart_> ah, thanks jrib
[23:58] <matrix> hey all iam usin bittorent every 3-4 minutes its closing down what to do i need to open and restart
[23:59] <Slart_> batcoder-7: hmm.. I don't really see any difference from hardy when it comes to bloat
[23:59] <WeezzZ> irc://irc.voila.fr
[23:59] <batcoder-7> Slart_: i run a celeron 2.8 and with 8.04 xubuntu it was much more snappier then it is now with 8.10
[23:59] <Slart_> WeezzZ: not here