[00:17] <mschemerii> got a question that I cannot seem to find an answer to...
[00:17] <mschemerii> why is the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file so minimally configured
[00:17] <mschemerii> ?
[00:18] <mschemerii> there is no listing of video card options or what driver is being used, default screen size, etc...
[01:19] <Jinto> Hey, I've got a bit of a problem.
[01:20] <Jinto> Does anyone know what kind of problem it is when a dell inspiron 600m can't boot past bios?
[01:22] <simoo_> Hi does anyonehave the pictures screensaver working?
[03:13] <nikolam> hi
[03:13] <nikolam> i just updated xubunut 8.04.1 64-bit installation
[03:13] <nikolam> And after that system failed to boot
[03:14] <nikolam> update for /boot/grub/menu.lst is broken
[03:15] <nikolam> I boot by copying old menu.lst from backup
[03:15] <nikolam> I I need to manually tune it _Every time_ new kernel update arrives.
[03:15] <nikolam> Bah
[03:16] <nikolam> also update sets false kernel as default.
[03:16] <nikolam> so updated kernel is not used by default
[03:19] <nikolam> also it wrongly points ALL listed ubuntu installs to first ubuntu install it founds. Not regarding what kernel uses what install
[03:20] <nikolam> So install procedure upon kernel update, regarding menu.lst configuration is full of bugs
[03:20] <nikolam> and catastrophic to ordinary user, duing just an upgrade
[03:22] <nikolam> Also this HORRIBLE mousepad BUG with replace persists!!!
[03:22] <nikolam> I even went to 0.2.14 and it is still there!!!
[03:25] <nikolam> Also, Why (Oh why) update procedure leaves Old kernels in /boot. After a while my /boot is full of old kernels and could stop update for not enough space on /boot
[03:27] <nikolam> After surgically repaired menu.lst with gedit (mousepad replace don`t work) I need to reboot now..
[03:59] <papa__> hello everyone.... I've tried Ubuntu livecd. Finally I quit Windows... and I'm going to install xubuntu.
[04:00] <papa__> I'm downloading xubuntu 8.10. I'm going to delete Windows. I want to use only Linux.
[04:01] <papa__> It's Xubuntu 8.10 stable?
[04:01] <litlebuda> yes papa__
[04:02] <papa__> Today, I tried to install Debian... so   many  problems.
[04:03] <papa__> A friend of mine told me Debian is more stable, but I think it's more difficult.
[05:06] <atom_fox> hi guys
[05:07] <j1mc> hola
[05:08] <atom_fox> planning to install xubuntu on my new laptop, I have vista preinstalled on my laptop... I'ts my first time to use Xubuntu, I'm using slackware before. I would just like to know what development tools or apps I can use/need for C++ and other commong programming languages... because KDE has KDevelop. How about xfce?
[05:14] <Kiption> i think there's anjuta
[05:15] <Kiption> but i've not used it
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> atom_fox: xfce uses gtk. gtk apps integrate quite well with xfce. xfce itself is most C++ iirc. there is also pyxfce, and xfce4-perl
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> all you really need is a text editor! :P
[05:16] <atom_fox> so it means xubuntu automatically install essential libs for g++ or c++ i think? because I use g++ on slack...
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> you might need the build-essential package... i'm not sure
[05:17] <Kiption> you def need that
[05:17] <Kiption> gives you all the compilers etc.
[05:18] <atom_fox> is build-essential included on the xubuntu installer?
[05:18] <Kiption> no
[05:21] <atom_fox> could I download it trough the app-get? or package manager of xubuntu?
[05:21] <Kiption> yea
[07:10] <david__> hello guys
[07:11] <david__> My name is David Kirba, am a copywriter in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
[07:11] <david__> I've been using ubuntu for a while and I decided to give Xubuntu a try so I'm here for help
[07:24] <david__> I need to connect to windows shares
[07:24] <david__> and I also need to access the windows drives on my computer
[07:24] <david__> mounting the lcoal drives, I'll use fstab. I've used it before, just need to brush up
[07:24] <david__> but I'm having trouble with the network
[07:25] <david__> thunar doesn't have a network browser
[07:34] <david__> hello
[07:34] <david__> any one around?
[09:29] <c4nn1b4l> hi
[13:00] <micah> hello everyone i have a simple question
[13:01] <micah> i need to know how to change the hostname of my computer
[13:02] <TheSheep> /etc/hostname
[13:02] <TheSheep> and the hostname command
[13:02] <micah> ?
[13:02] <TheSheep> !
[13:04] <micah> thanks i got it
[13:04] <TheSheep> :)
[13:30] <craigbass1976> I have regular ubuntu here at work, but with xfce installed.  Computer specs (other than being a desktop) are about the same as my laptop at home.  If I run xfce here, it's much slower than a fresh xubuntu install on my laptop.  Is GNOME (is it gdm?) still involved if I'm running xfce on this box?  Where do I shut it off?
[13:31] <craigbass1976> /etc/X11/default-display-manager ?
[13:32] <craigbass1976> If anyone answers, go ahead and hit my name so xchat blinks.  I've got to go on another desktop.  Much appreciated if anyone can help.
[13:45] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: there is a number of services and background programs that may be running
[13:46] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: ubuntu has more of them than ubuntu, check the system->services and settings->setting manager->autostarted applications
[13:47] <craigbass1976> I don't think I'm running too many more, but checking.  Thanks.
[13:48] <craigbass1976> Oops... though I uninstalled postgres...  But that's about it
[15:06] <Grab> hello
[15:08] <Grab> is it the same if i install xubuntu directly or do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  from ubuntu ???
[15:10] <ablomen> Grab, yep
[15:10] <Grab> are you sure?
[15:11] <Grab> because ubuntu installed a lot of shit
[15:11] <ablomen> well you can remove that afterwards
[15:11] <Grab> ablomen what should i remove exactly?
[15:11] <Grab> that's the problem :P
[15:11] <ablomen> ubuntu-desktop :)
[15:41] <sinbox> isn't ubuntu-desktop just a metapackage ablomen ?
[15:41] <vinnl> Yep, it is
[15:47] <sinbox> so it wouldn't pull out all of the stuff it pulls in (at least that is what it looked like to me)
[15:47] <vinnl> No it wouldn't
[15:47] <sinbox> K thanks Mr short to the point replies ;-)
[15:48] <vinnl> ;-)
[15:48] <Odd-rationale> !purexfce
[15:48] <vinnl> Sorry I'm editing a movie at the same time :P
[15:48] <sinbox> no probs, short to the point is what is needed as far as I'm concerned
[15:49] <vinnl> :)
[15:52] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: I made a script by which you can keep a DE and remove another. (No reinstalling packages needed.) I guess it could be improved, though.
[15:52] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: cool. can you pastebin it?
[15:56] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: http://rafb.net/p/1J8BV574.html
[15:58] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: It checkes first level recommended packages, but only dependencies of deeper levels for the metapackages.
[15:59] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: I recommend storing its output in a file and checking if too much will be removed.
[16:00] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: You may edit metatokeep, additionallykeep,and metatoremove variables.
[16:01] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: e.g pkgs-to-remove.sh > list
[16:01] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: less list
[16:02] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: sudo apt-get remove `cat list`
[16:06] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: what's the main difference between that, and the command on that website (!purexfce) ?
[16:08] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: in (!purexfce) you have to reinstall xubuntu-desktop.
[16:09] <Odd-rationale> yeah...
[16:09] <Odd-rationale> it brings you to how it would be if you just installed xubuntu from the xubuntu disc...
[16:10] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: and my script is more versatile.
[16:10] <Odd-rationale> ok. i see...
[16:13] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: the script looks a bit complicated, since I could not make apt-rdepends follow Recommends recursively although its man page says it can.
[16:15] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: I don't know, if you can run the (!purexfce) thing from xfce, since it removes temporarily part of xubuntu-desktop.
[16:15] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: yes you can
[16:32] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: did you try the script? You may have to install some apps to make it work.
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: no i haven't tried the script... i'm not on a debian-based system... i just was curious on how you did it... :)
[16:44] <jarnos> Should command "apt-rdepends --follow=Depends,PreDepends,Recommends --show=Depends,PreDepends,Recommends xubuntu-desktop" show recursive dependencies of xubuntu-desktop?
[16:55] <medoctron> does anyone how to configure edge switching in openbox
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: something like <screenEdgeWarpTime>0</screenEdgeWarpTime> in the <mouse> section... lower value for faster switching
[17:14] <medoctron> i'll give it a try, thx Odd-rationale
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: whoops... 0 disables warpping. set it to like 400 or something...
[17:14] <medoctron> ah okay thanks
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> 1000 = 1 sec
[17:15] <medoctron> oh i see... its already set, but it doesnt work for me...
[17:15] <Odd-rationale> hmm... idk...
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> strange
[17:16] <medoctron> its set to 400
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> i guess you should try asking about it in #openbox
[17:18] <medoctron> Odd-rationale hmm it always connects to ##openbox when i type /j #openbox xD
[17:18] <medoctron> very strange...
[17:20] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: i was sure they had their own channel on freenode...
[17:20] <medoctron> i'll try on another server
[17:20] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: ah, they are on irc.oftc.net
[17:20] <medoctron> yeah, that what i just found
[17:21] <medoctron> thanks
[17:28] <slow-motion> hi
[18:06] <misty_> hi I'm having a bit of an issue using xubuntu with compiz
[18:08] <misty_> I'm trying to disable all of the xfce panels and have compiz come up as my only windows manager
[18:08] <misty_> however xfce seems to always turn on or at least have one panel open
[18:31] <jAguAr`> how do i change the default window manager from kdm to gdm?
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> jAguAr`: you mean display manager? try installing gdm. then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[18:35] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, then i'll have to reboot, right?
[18:40] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, thanx, that worked :)
[18:40] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, but when i rebooted, it still showed that it was loading "kubuntu" does that make any difference?
[18:47] <sinbox> well, you need to change the session if kubuntu is set as your default desktop environement
[18:50] <jAguAr`> sinbox, okay, when i just rebooted my puter, i set gdm as the default session, so is that gonna show up again if i reboot?
[18:51] <sinbox> yes gdm should now be your display manager, but you still need to tell it to change the session you actually want, you can just log off no need to actually reboot
[18:51] <jAguAr`> ok, brb, lemme see if that works
[18:53] <jAguAr`> sinbox, it looks like it worked
[18:53] <sinbox> only looks like?
[18:53] <sinbox> '-)
[18:54] <jAguAr`> well, when i logged in this time after rebooting, it went straight to the gdm, but as it was loading it showed kubuntu
[18:55] <jAguAr`> oh! and while i'm thinkin about it, is there any way to have the desktop pics change every so often in gnome the way that kde does?
[18:56] <sinbox> ah yes, you'll need to change the splash on boot, not sure how to do that, but a quick search of the forum  or ubuntu wiki should yield some results if no one turns up to answer tthat query. as for the autochange of background I don't know how to do that, I'm not so big on eye candy stuff :)
[18:57] <jAguAr`> okay, thanks anyway :)
[19:05] <xd0> I need to boot xubuntu from usb pen but I can't rember how I did this last, anyone?
[19:06] <xd0> remember
[19:06] <xd0> *
[19:06] <Odd-rationale> jAguAr`: i think you need to have xubuntu-artwork-usplash installed...
[19:08] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, it's not that big of a deal, as long as everything works right in gnome, i don't care what the splash screen for boot up says
[19:09] <Odd-rationale> k
[19:20]  * xd0 ,f
[19:54] <federaco78> hi, someone can help me with a terminal problem in xubuntu ?
[19:55] <federaco78> I can't get the function keys to work F1 to F12
[19:56] <federaco78> hello ?'
[19:56] <federaco78> please !
[20:04] <federaco78> hello ????
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> hi!
[20:05] <federaco78> hi, I have a problem with my terminal in Xubuntu
[20:05] <Odd-rationale> what's wrong with it?
[20:05] <federaco78> I can't get the F1 to F12 keys to work
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> what do you mean?
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> (they usually don't do anthing, anyways...)
[20:06] <federaco78> I'm trying a system that runs in a terminal and it uses the Function keys F1, F2, etc
[20:07] <federaco78> and I need them to work, I looked at the configuration but nothing
[20:07] <Odd-rationale> what system?
[20:08] <federaco78> a custom made system
[20:08] <federaco78> the system is already installed but the only problem is that those keys don't work
[20:10] <federaco78> i installed the same system in a Yoper distro and there the terminal program have the configuration option to change the keyboard to vt100
[20:10] <federaco78> and it worked !, but i cant find that option in the xubuntu terminal
[20:20] <federaco78> hellooooooooooo ???
[20:24] <Odd-rationale> I haven't used xfce terminal in a while... so i have no idea...sorry...
[20:26] <federaco78> ok thanks
[22:03] <jxander> i am trying to use a synCE gvfs volume that works fine under gnome, but under xfce won't appear. please help! :-s
[22:36] <source> saluton
[22:59] <flammenwurfer> hell0o
[23:40] <rods> hi
[23:40] <rods> Im trying to find someone help me with VirtualBox
[23:43] <c4nn1b4l_> rods: whats the problem?
[23:45] <R1cochet> rods try #vbox
[23:46] <batcoder-7> back when i had xubuntu 8.04 it seemed much faster and snappier
[23:46] <batcoder-7> is it all in my head but when i installed this it seems more resourceful and not as quic ?
[23:47] <rods> #vbox did not have anyone available.
[23:48] <R1cochet> im trying to set my etho device to manual settings and every time i restart my pc i have to reconfig the settings again. how can i get the settings to save?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> hmm.. try the /etc/network/interface file... i think there is a manpage for it too..
[23:51] <R1cochet> umm theres only 2 lines in it
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man5/interfaces.5.html
[23:58] <grap> hello
[23:58] <grap> anybody around?
[23:58] <forces> hi!