kubotuclaydoh listened to "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" by U2 [The Joshua Tree, 1990] 2 months ago01:01
ScottKklibido could use an update and some love from someone who actually understands autotools.04:01
* ScottK looks for NCommander ....04:01
LaserJockautotools is *cough* fun *cough*04:15
ScottKWhich is why I'm looking for NCommander and not trying to do it myself.  I don't want to hog all the "fun".04:17
LaserJockScottK: so at this point do you get cmake more than autotools?04:22
LaserJockI've got somewhat mixed feelings about cmake04:22
ScottKFor KDE, KDE3 stuff is autotools and KDE4 stuff is Cmake.04:22
ScottKThe pain level associated with updating for a new release is WAY lower with CMake.04:23
Tm_Tcmake <304:23
LaserJockah, that's helpful04:23
Tm_Tin many things it has been way easier04:23
Tm_Tespecially when configuring04:23
LaserJockI had some fits with cmake when I was packaging a chemistry app04:23
LaserJockbut I haven't done a ton with cmake 2.6 perhaps it's better04:24
LaserJockthere's a project I build from svn that supports both cmake and autotools and the cmake version builds significantly faster04:25
LaserJockI liked that part :-)04:26
* ScottK waves at JontheEchidna.04:48
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kubotuTm_T is listening to "South Side of the Sky" by Yes [Fragile, 2003]10:55
Tm_Twrooooong year you, you, , , you!10:55
HobbseeNightrose: you around?11:53
doc__hi there11:54
NightroseHobbsee: jep11:58
HobbseeNightrose: that picture for ~amarok-wolf-brigade - it's static?11:58
Nightrosei think so why?11:58
Nightroseah you mean the group picture?11:59
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apacheloggerhm, kdelibs down, amarok up, quassel up ... I need more bandwith -.-14:13
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ScottKapachelogger: How's amarok 2 for Jaunty going?14:41
ScottKOnce that's in the archive I can start slaying kdebindings for KDE3 rdepends.14:42
apacheloggerScottK: IMHO we should polish amarok-mysql up (+ strip everything that is not necessary) and then try to get it into main14:42
ScottKapachelogger: Agreed, but let's at least get it in the archive.14:42
apacheloggerpushing it into jaunty and build against current mysql-5.1 would mean to depend on mysql-server because there is no independent data package14:42
ScottKEven if it's a bit rough to start with, I think it's better to move in small increments.14:42
ScottKAlso I think we'd get more push from server team to say "Help, mysql is keeping amarok out of Main" than "Help, I'd like to upload a new version."14:43
apacheloggerScottK: I don't really care, Riddell has to do the moving, then we'd need to merge amarok from experimental (I think)14:43
ScottKThe demotion?14:44
ScottKI think he did it already.14:44
ScottKIt doesn't show up on component mismatches at a quick glance14:45
apacheloggerwell, then we just need to do the merge14:45
ScottKLaunchpad agrees it's in Universe.14:46
* ScottK had thought you were planning to do that today based on the conversation earlier in the week.14:46
apacheloggerScottK: also if the TB is ok with us having amarok-mysql (especially since it could only have a security affect on amarok itself, which is nothing different from sqlite in amarok 1) there is no reason to push the the server team for mysql 5.1 ... from looking at the packaging, 2 mysqls is something I wouldn't want to have to care about either14:46
apacheloggerScottK: someone needs to merge, I am busy testbuilding .96 :P14:47
* ScottK would prefer not to even have to care about one.14:47
ScottKRight, I'm busy most of today taking kids to birthday parties, shopping, school dance ....14:48
ScottK$WIFE is out of town, so I get to do all the schlepping.14:48
apacheloggerScottK: the other ninjas should have time, according to the batcave all got batsent already14:49
ScottKapachelogger: We need something like !ops for !ninjas for when we want to summon one.14:49
* ScottK wonders who's up for getting amarok 2 into the archive ....14:50
vorianwhat's up?14:50
* vorian grins14:50
apacheloggerhm, you know, I will have to test that now ;-)14:50
ubottuHelp! Riddell, haggai, amu, imbrandon, Hobbsee or Mez14:50
vorianthat's gonna get you fired14:50
ScottKvorian: Need to merge amarok from Experimental.14:50
voriansounds like a job for apachelogger14:51
vorianoh, but he14:51
* apachelogger is testbuilding14:51
vorians busy14:51
ScottKIt's in Universe now, so even a lowly MOTU can upload it.14:51
vorianok, i'll take a look at it14:51
ScottKvorian: Then you get to say stuff like, "I'm the one that got amaork 2 into Kubuntu".14:51
ScottKvorian: Thanks.14:52
* Nightrose promises a cookie to vorian14:53
ScottKvorian: Please let me know when it's done so I can start slaughterind the bindings for KDE3.14:54
apacheloggerNightrose: I nevar get a cookie14:54
Nightroseyou do!14:54
ScottKapachelogger: Maybe for .96 we upload kde4bindings as kdebindings (like Debian) and just let the KDE3 stuff go NBS.14:56
vorianScottK: it may be an hour or two14:56
ScottKI'll clean up the mess after.14:56
ScottKvorian: No trouble.14:56
apacheloggerNightrose: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds first i386 buildd :P14:57
apacheloggerScottK: what would break?14:58
Nightroseapachelogger: yay14:58
ScottKapachelogger: kita2 is the only thing that is at all concerning.14:58
Nightrose~order cookies for apachelogger14:58
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger.14:58
ScottKEverything else can just go.14:58
ScottKapachelogger: Do you recall the ML thread from last month on the topic?14:58
* apachelogger didn't read, was busy as hell last month14:59
* ScottK has a list.14:59
ScottKIf you don't want to do it, I will later.14:59
apacheloggerScottK: anyway, I think we should make kdebindings kde3bindings, otherwise we render non-packaged stuff unusable (e.g. there are loads of small utilities using pykde3)14:59
ScottKpython-kde3 is it's own package.15:00
ScottKIt doesn't die.15:00
apacheloggerScottK: ruby-kde3?15:00
apacheloggerdid we have such a thing at all? ;-)15:00
ScottKThat isn't what it was called.15:00
apacheloggeryeah, ruby1.8-kde3 probably15:00
* apachelogger finds the ruby packaging standard weird... and incomplete15:01
* ScottK would have gone with insane.15:01
ScottKlibqt0-ruby1.8 and such are in there15:01
apacheloggeryeah, not much of a standard I must say :P15:02
ScottKAnyone recall the file that adept looks at to know reboot is required?15:05
apacheloggerScottK: just took a quick look at the bindings thread ... IMHO it makes most sense to just rename the source to kde3bindings in order to avoid breaking 3rd party stuff, once/if we are ready to drop kdelibs4 we can drop kde3bindings along with it15:07
ScottKapachelogger: There's only one package in the archive that would be affected.15:07
ScottKIt looked to me like almost all the use was amarok related and that stuff will be broken if we upload or not.15:08
ScottKupload/kill it15:08
* ScottK will consider it while driving the kids around.15:09
apacheloggerno ruby-kde3 app will be able to run without korundum15:09
ScottKDo we have any of those?15:09
apacheloggerwe don't, our users might15:09
apacheloggerScottK: kdebindings in kde3 mostly only exposed kdelibs to scripts and small utils15:10
ScottKDebian will drop it after Lenny and upstream already has.15:11
ScottKHow long to you propose we maintain it?15:11
apacheloggerScottK: until it breaks15:11
ScottKI thought the general concept was to push KDE3 stuff out as fast as we could.15:11
* ScottK has certainly been filing lots of removal bugs.15:12
ScottKOf course only for broken stuff so far.15:12
apacheloggersure, if it is FUBAR we should drop it15:13
ScottKapachelogger: Would you do a reply in that thread then?15:13
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tomahi, im getting a x-terminal-emulator not found, anyone an idea what is going wrong?16:03
apacheloggertoma: when do you get that?16:04
apacheloggeror for what?16:04
tomaapachelogger: affter an update, it appears after logging in, vbefore the desktop appears16:04
tomaand then nvidia crashes horribly16:05
apacheloggervery weird16:05
* toma nods16:05
apacheloggertoma: please paste your .xsession-errors16:05
tomaapachelogger: basically the same message in there, but also resource temporary not avilable16:07
tomacant paste right now16:07
* apachelogger gotta head out for a bit16:07
tomawhere is this x-terminal-emulator ?16:07
apacheloggertoma: quick fix would be to install xterm16:07
apacheloggerx-terminal-emulator is actually a debian alternative which can be provided by any terminal that runs on X16:08
apacheloggeri.e. also konsole16:08
apacheloggerxterm provides it for sure though16:08
tomaapachelogger: thanks, incomplete install16:09
* vorian starts working on amarok 216:17
tomaapachelogger: now it starts an xterm after logging into kdm16:18
LureNCommander: around?16:24
vorianScottK: what's up with mysql?16:41
NCommanderLure, somewhat16:48
LureNCommander: you are expert in resolving armel build issues in kde16:48
NCommanderLure, what's broken?16:49
LureNCommander: is there anyway to find all issues with some warning level on intel build16:49
LureNCommander: digikam: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21038146/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-armel.digikam_2:0.10.0~beta8-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:49
NCommanderwhat do you mean issues?16:49
NCommandernot really16:49
NCommanderThe problem is due to the way Qt changes its settings on arm16:49
LureNCommander: it is just cast fix, but I am scared to fix and upload and find new problem16:49
NCommanderWhich causes the miserable problems we've been seeing16:50
NCommanderLure, most of getting KDE fixed was cast fixes expet for an issue in KDE4bindings16:50
LureNCommander: right, but do you do it one-by-one (fix, upload, build) and repeat16:50
LureNCommander: until done?16:51
NCommanderpretty much16:51
NCommanderIts very tedious work :-/16:51
LureNCommander: ok, I hopped that there might be some g++ option to be used (like strict warning/error) to detect potential problems on intel16:51
Lureso I could find them on my system and fix at once16:52
LureNCommander: thanks, will now work on on-by-one basis16:52
NCommanderLure, I'm sorry, no, but it is possible to emulate an ARM device with QEMU16:53
LureNCommander: oh, true, that could work16:53
LureNCommander: will fix this one problem and if I get new one, switch to quemu16:53
NCommanderLure, I can testbuild on ARM for you if you wish16:53
LureNCommander: thanks for offer, but it will be faster if I have it here16:54
NCommanderI know the feeling16:54
LureNCommander: you sure do16:54
* Lure has seen many upload by you for this16:54
NCommanderPlenty of swearing too16:55
NCommandermy goal tommorow is to make sure ALL the portability fixes flow upstream16:55
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apacheloggertoma: but you get a KDE desktop?17:12
apacheloggervorian: please make use of the new batreports, there is quite some stuff that can be fixed for kdebase17:13
vorianthis is puzzling the begebers out of me17:16
apacheloggervorian: the wha? Oo17:16
vorianapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103202/17:17
apacheloggervorian: turn on universe in your pbuilder17:17
* ScottK-palm waves from Chuck-e-Cheese's.18:07
ScottK-palmapachelogger: I was thinking about mysql 5.1. If we can get to a very minimal binary for amarok, having the source and just that binary in Main might not be a big deal.18:09
apacheloggerScottK-palm: the point is, we don't even need a binary at runtime18:10
apacheloggerScottK-palm: we just need a couple of libs + headers at buildtime18:10
ScottK-palmLast cycle I got Sendmail source in Main so I could build-dep on libmilter-dev.18:10
ScottK-palmEven better.18:10
apacheloggerthen everything gets embedded into amarok and the only remaining runtime requires are data files18:10
ScottK-palmSource only in Main.18:11
ScottK-palmI think that'll totally be not a problem as long as it's co-installable with mysql 5.0.18:12
apacheloggereasy enough we can throw the stuff into /usr/share/amarokmysql or similar18:12
ScottK-palmOne step at a time.  First we get 2.0 in, then we refine it.18:13
ScottK-palmNeed to see how to decontruct akonadi's mysql needs too.18:16
ScottK-palmIt's just too darn big.18:16
* ScottK-palm wonders how Sput is doing on making quassel-core not want KDE.18:18
apacheloggerScottK-palm: I don't think we can do much about akonadi... maybe strip some database types, but that is about it18:19
SputScottK-palm: that's my project for this evening18:19
SputI need to fix and have dinner though first18:19
apachelogger~script add ninjas m.reply "Help! apachelogger, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin, vorian"18:20
kubotuHelp! apachelogger, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin, vorian18:20
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: we could patch akonadi to use mysqle, making it a patchy, buggy mess as well as garnering us much disapproval from upstream :D18:20
apacheloggerScottK-palm: is that what you had in mind?18:20
ScottK-palmapachelogger: Then something big needs to come off the CD.18:20
apachelogger*cough* ooo *cough*18:20
JontheEchidnatoo bad koffice isn't ready :(18:21
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: upstream wanted to use embedded mysql anyway ... but it was unusable at the time18:21
ScottK-palmWell KOffice is by design insufficient for anyone who has to share docs with MSOffice users.18:22
ScottK-palmSo even if it was "Ready" it still wouldn't be what we need.18:23
apacheloggerWell, it's not koffice's part that is broken, it's MSOffice's18:23
ScottK-palmYeah, but that doesn't help me when I need to send docs to clients.18:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: can you take a look at bindings?18:24
ScottK-palmALL of them use MS Office.18:24
apacheloggerdeactivating akonadi stuff for now ough to be enough18:24
Riddellour CDs do have a healthy 70MB free on them18:25
apacheloggerRiddell: because we dropped all of kdepim18:25
apachelogger+ amarok18:25
ScottK-palmapachelogger: Yes, the ninja thing is about what I eas thinking.18:25
apacheloggeror just amarok but not pim? something like that18:25
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: a review-style look?18:25
ScottK-palmAnd dropped Konversation without adding a replacement.18:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: a 'it-fails-in-ppa-but-Riddell-didnt-fix-it-yet-even-though-I-will-revu-it-soon' look18:26
ScottK-palmSomething must have shrunk because at Aplaha 2 we had no spare room.18:26
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: the failure was due to a bug in kdepimlibs which riddell fixed18:26
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: trigger a rebuild then18:27
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Dear Mr. President (Feat. Indigo Girls)" by Pink18:27
Riddellyes, rebuild please18:27
Riddellkde4bindings that is18:28
apacheloggerI wander if she also wants to talk with mr. obama now18:28
ScottK-palmRiddell: Mysql 5.1 source only in Main for amarok build-dep ought to be sellable, right?18:29
ScottK-palmAs long as the binaries are Universe .....18:29
neversfeldeapachelogger: choqoK 0.3 will be released tomorrow. Probably I can upgrade the existing package and you can help me?18:30
neversfeldeor isn't that fast enough? :)18:30
RiddellScottK-palm: the -dev package with the libmysql.a needs to be in main, rest can be in universe.  it'll still need some presuasion though but it should be the way to go18:30
Riddelland whatever the data files it needs are in main too18:31
ScottK-palmRiddell: Right.  Considering they're expecting us to want all of it, they should be relieved.18:31
apacheloggerRiddell: -dev and -data in main, libmysql in universe?18:32
apacheloggerRiddell: or does everything it needs to build be in main?18:32
ScottK-palmDoes -dev depend on libmysql?18:32
apacheloggerneeds to18:32
ScottK-palmapachelogger: Everything.18:33
apacheloggeror rather, it ought to because amarok requires the lib as well IIRC18:33
apacheloggerat buildtime18:33
Riddellit needs the .a which is in -dev18:34
Riddellthe -server doesn't need to be in main18:34
apacheloggerwhatever contains libmysql.so is needed as well18:35
Riddellwhy?  last I looked it just uses the static .a18:35
RiddellI didn't think there even was a .so18:35
apacheloggerwell, something libmysqlish18:35
* ScottK-palm discovers the pizza is ready.18:35
ScottK-palmSee you all later.18:36
apacheloggerRiddell: Nightrose said we should talk to aides in #amarok to find out what is necessary for building18:36
apacheloggercya ScottK-palm18:36
SputRiddell: libmysql != libmysqld18:43
Sput(amarok needs both of them)18:43
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apacheloggerRiddell: do you think we could get a virtual server from canonical?18:53
apacheloggerwe could do much better QA if we had a server everyone can upload to18:54
neversfeldeapachelogger: missed my question?19:06
apacheloggerseems so19:06
neversfeldeapachelogger: choqoK 0.3 is released tomorrow. I would like to upgrade the existing package, but I probably need some help19:07
apacheloggerI doubt you wil ;-)19:08
apacheloggerneversfelde: first off: bzr branch %7Ekubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu/19:08
apacheloggerbzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/choqok/ubuntu/ choqok19:09
apacheloggermakes more sense19:09
apacheloggerneversfelde: then cd and get the tarball, eventually you will have to convert it to gzip and most likely have to rename it so that debuild can find it19:10
neversfeldesorry, another desktop freeze19:11
apacheloggerthen just bump the changelog with the tool dch ... run bzr-buildpackage -e in the debian directory ... change to ../build-area and create the source package ... testbuild in pbuilder ... if all is ok ... upload to revu or file a bug (I prefer the former)19:11
apacheloggerneversfelde: did you get what I wrote before?19:11
neversfeldeI have done this before19:12
neversfeldeapachelogger: yes, quassel-core is running :)19:12
apachelogger<3 quassel19:12
apacheloggerhm, that said19:12
JontheEchidna~karma quassel19:12
apachelogger~karma c19:12
kubotukarma for quassel: 119:12
kubotukarma for c: 7719:12
apacheloggeryou know what that means????19:12
JontheEchidna~karma c19:13
kubotukarma for c: 7319:13
neversfeldeapachelogger: will try it19:13
apacheloggeronly the ~learn stuff is broken19:13
kubotuI know nothing19:13
apacheloggeror maybe the way ~learn accesses the database19:13
kubotukarma for JontheEchidna: 719:13
apacheloggernot the database itself though19:13
kubotujjesse has neutral karma19:13
jjesseyay nuetral karma :)19:13
neversfeldeapachelogger: thx19:14
kubotukarma for nhandler: 219:14
kubotujussi01 has neutral karma19:23
apacheloggerSput: the oxygen quassel icon looks a bit like quanta's don't you think?19:48
apacheloggerat least in the taskbar19:48
Sputapachelogger: can't say, haven't used quanta in years19:48
apacheloggerSput: not like the icon changes in years ;-)19:49
SputI hope nuno remembers that we'd need icons for offline and highlighted state as well :)19:49
apacheloggeryou just have to keep telling him :P19:49
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Lureis kde4.mk ubuntu specific or we get this from debian?20:06
apacheloggerfrom debian, but our's is superior of course ;-)20:06
Lurebut some debian kde4 packages do not use it20:07
Lureoh, and it prescribes quilt :-(20:07
* Lure is only used to simple-patchsys20:07
apacheloggertrust me, quilt is superior to everything20:08
apacheloggeryou just need to get used to it20:08
apacheloggerand possibly script it a bit to streamline some usecases20:08
Lureapachelogger: maybe, but I have to learn again...20:08
apacheloggerLure: ln -s debian/patches && quilt push -a ... all applied20:08
apacheloggerquilt pop -a && rm patches ... all unapplied20:08
apacheloggerln -s debian/patches && quilt new kubuntu_01_patch && quilt add src/main.cpp... tell quilt about a new patch and which files quilt should be watching for changes to generate the new patch from20:09
apacheloggerchange src/main.cpp20:09
apacheloggerquilt refresh && quilt pop && rm patches ... create/refresh the new patch's content and unapply the patch20:10
apacheloggerLure: instead of linking debian/patches to the source tree you can also set some env vars20:10
Lureapachelogger: and this is easier than cdbs-edit-patch? ;-)20:11
apacheloggerLure: I didn't say easier, I said superior20:11
Lureapachelogger: it is just a pain to remember for occasional contributors like me20:12
Lureapachelogger: but thanks for quick intro, will fix kipi-plugins now20:12
Lurebtw, why is ln required?20:12
apacheloggerLure: quilt is a distro agnostic system20:13
apacheloggerso it wouldn't know your patches are in debian/patches20:13
Lureapachelogger: ok, right, puts patches in top-level instead of debian20:13
apacheloggerwhich is one of the reasons an alias for ln -s, push -a and pop -a is a good idea20:13
Lureapachelogger: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk'.  Stop.20:30
Lureapachelogger: this means that quilt is missing in build-dep, or?20:30
apacheloggerLure: yes20:31
Lureapachelogger: ok, I am getting somewhere ;-)20:31
Lureapachelogger: question: if debian does not use kde4.mk (but debhelper.mk+cmake.mk+simple-patchsys.mk) are we supposed to switch to kde4.mk?20:36
Lureapachelogger: digikam is such package (and kipi-plugins might be the same, but debian is still on kde3 version)20:37
apacheloggerLure: yep, kde4.mk includes all of them20:39
* JontheEchidna is listening to O Come All Ye Faithful/O Holy Night (Instrumental) by Trans-Siberian Orchestra on Christmas Eve and Other Stories [Amarok2]21:17
* JontheEchidna rocks to Christmas music weeks after the holiday21:17
blizzzJontheEchidna: only gifts missing, arent they?21:23
* JontheEchidna is listening to White and Nerdy by Weird Al on Straight Outta Lynwood [Amarok2]21:32
nhandlerAs long as I'm reinstalling, I might as well see if there is a better option for having multiple pbuilder than what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Multiple%20pbuilders says21:49
jussi01apachelogger: can we have kubotu back in #ubuntustudio-devel?23:06
apacheloggerdid you break it? :P23:08
apachelogger~config list23:08
kubotumodules: rss, nickserv, markov, factoids, http, remote, irc, autoop, keyword, debug, send, core, encoding, server, plugins, rejoin, salut, auth, irclog, twitter, wikipedia, lastfm, translator, log, translate, google, ri, chanserv, host23:08
apachelogger~config list core23:08
kubotucore.language, core.address_prefix, core.run_as_daemon, core.save_every, core.nick_postfix, core.reply_with_nick23:08
apachelogger~help config23:09
kubotuconfig module - bot configuration. usage: list, desc, get, set, unset, add, rm23:09
apachelogger~help config add23:09
kubotuconfig add <value> to <key> => add value <value> to key <key> if <key> is an array23:09
apacheloggersound sensible23:09
apachelogger~config add #ubuntustudio-devel to irc.join_channels23:10
kubotuirc.join_channels: #kubuntu-devel, #kubuntu-bunker, #ubuntustudio-devel23:10
apacheloggerjussi01: there we go23:10
jussi01apachelogger: it didnt join...23:11
jussi01do you need to reload it?23:11
apacheloggerjussi01: now?23:12
jussi01apachelogger: yep :)23:13
apacheloggerjussi01: patience is everything :P23:14
Hobbseeapachelogger: prepare to be eaten by a grue.23:16
jussi01hi Hobbsee23:17
Hobbseeheya jussi01!23:17
* jussi01 should go to bed...23:17
jussi01@now helsinki23:17
ubottuCurrent time in Europe/Helsinki: January 11 2009, 01:17:51 - Next meeting: Server Team in 2 days23:17
apacheloggerHobbsee: what is a grue?23:18
jussi01Hobbsee: I get my cast off on friday!!! :D23:18
ubottuThe grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_%28monster%29 and !seveas23:18
Hobbseehaha, nice23:19
Hobbseejussi01: yay!23:19
apacheloggerthat sounds frightening alright23:19
LaserJockafternoon all23:20
ScottKnoon even23:22
Hobbseeheya ScottK!23:22
ScottKHeya Hobbsee23:22
* ScottK sits here shocked at apachelogger's lack of appreciation for his hacker cultural heritage.23:23
* apachelogger is busy introducing bugs23:23
LaserJockis there any "KDE packaging for Ubuntu devs" documentation?23:30
apacheloggerLaserJock: what would that contain?23:32
Hobbseean explanation of what build-deps to use, how the packages are laid out for kde, and how to use cdbs, i expect.23:33
LaserJockcdbs and cmake would be high on my list23:33
LaserJockyeah, package layout23:33
apacheloggernone available yet23:33
apacheloggersounds sensible though23:33
apacheloggervorian: that would have been something to come with for devweek :P23:33
ScottKLaserJock: A great place to start would be we use cdbs and have a look at kde4.mk.23:34
ScottKApparently we like quilt, but no one ever asked me to vote on that.23:34
* apachelogger doesn't know where that came from either23:34
ScottKdpatch-edit-patch is hard to beat, IMO.23:34
ScottKDebian I think.23:34
apachelogger*shrug*, one could create quilt-edit-patch23:35
LaserJockI'm a debhelper/dpatch fan myself23:35
apacheloggermuch more sensible as well I guess :P23:35
LaserJockI've used CDBS before for simple packages where I didn't have to do much23:36
LaserJockare the KDE packages maintained in bzr?23:36
apacheloggerLaserJock: you might also have a look at lp:~apachelogger/+junk/gypsy it's a tool for batch branching23:37
LaserJockScottK: I was dreaming of seeds last night ;-)23:37
LaserJockapachelogger: oh right, I saw a mention of that the other day23:37
LaserJockScottK: I need to run it by cjwatson, but I wonder if I can just maintain a copy of the kubuntu desktop seed in Edubuntu23:38
LaserJockthen I can depend on that for my edubuntu-desktop-kde seed23:39
ScottKI always wonder about how those get maintained.23:39
ScottKI have thought about a symlink to the higher level seed.23:39
ScottKDunno enough about it yet though.23:40
LaserJockfor edubuntu-desktop we do an "include ubuntu.jaunty" and therefore get acess to Ubuntu's seeds23:40
LaserJockbut I can't do the same for kubuntu because there would be big name clashes23:40
LaserJockso I was thinking I could just copy over Kubuntu's desktop seed and that'd be good enough23:40
LaserJockColin might not like that or perhaps have a better idea though23:41
LaserJockapachelogger: "The only baazar wrapper you will ever need ;-)"? pretty ambitious23:42
* ScottK tries again on a git snapshot of quassel.23:50
apacheloggerLaserJock: kubuntu's ultimate target is nothing less than perfection ;-)23:52
LaserJockwhat's 4.1.96? is that beta3?23:56

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