| Rocket2DMn | hey, if a bug report has a .crash attached, is there generally enough information in it to finish the triage? | 01:02 |
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| Rocket2DMn | see bug 315623 | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 315623 in nautilus "[jaunty] weird crash is specific directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315623 | 01:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | or do we need a full backtrace too? | 01:02 |
| crimsun | the more pertinent info, the better | 01:03 |
| Rocket2DMn | lol well yeah, but is it needed? | 01:04 |
| crimsun | yes, absolutely | 01:04 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok, ill ask him to get one then, thanks | 01:05 |
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| hggdh | Rocket2DMn, actually a .crash will not help much -- it is better to have apport process the .crash and open a bug with the results | 02:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok, thanks | 02:13 |
| hggdh | of course, if the reporter posts a nice backtrace/stacktrace, then it should be a good step, but the apport-generated data is usually more complete | 02:14 |
| PrivateVoid | hey guys... | 02:14 |
| nhandler | Hey PrivateVoid | 02:14 |
| PrivateVoid | For the global bug jam I am thinking of running it at a local book store | 02:15 |
| PrivateVoid | with a projector display of the bugs we are working on.. | 02:15 |
| PrivateVoid | and thinking of making it like a telethon... | 02:15 |
| PrivateVoid | make sense? | 02:15 |
| nhandler | Yeah, it makes sense PrivateVoid | 02:16 |
| PrivateVoid | I assume we can project the 5-A-Day stats in addition to the bug list... | 02:16 |
| PrivateVoid | We get three TVs and a giant projector screen. | 02:16 |
| nhandler | PrivateVoid: Just open http://daniel.holba.ch/5-a-day-stats/ in a browser | 02:16 |
| PrivateVoid | cool | 02:18 |
| nhandler | PrivateVoid: Do they have internet access and outlets? | 02:18 |
| PrivateVoid | yes and yes | 02:18 |
| nhandler | Then you are good to go | 02:18 |
| PrivateVoid | plus the projectors and three TVs that can be used to display things | 02:18 |
| nhandler | Sounds awesome. What bookstore is this? | 02:18 |
| PrivateVoid | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/20090108 | 02:19 |
| PrivateVoid | Barnes & Noble | 02:19 |
| PrivateVoid | the TVs are not in the picture | 02:19 |
| PrivateVoid | but are on the side walls and just outside the glass doors above the entrance | 02:19 |
| nhandler | PrivateVoid: That B&N looks awesome. I wounder if the one by me has a room like that | 02:20 |
| PrivateVoid | You should check it out... | 02:20 |
| PrivateVoid | it is a nice public place with exposure... | 02:20 |
| PrivateVoid | I need to get some posters made to display when we are there | 02:20 |
| nhandler | PrivateVoid: Thanks, but I don't think I will be flying out to NY to see a B&N | 02:20 |
| PrivateVoid | No, I mean the one near you | 02:20 |
| PrivateVoid | you should check that one out | 02:21 |
| PrivateVoid | to see if it has a room like that | 02:21 |
| nhandler | Yeah, I will the next time I am there. I know they have a large Starbucks inside, but I don't remember seeing a conference room | 02:21 |
| PrivateVoid | almost all of them have a 'meeting' room... | 02:22 |
| PrivateVoid | but they might look a bit different | 02:22 |
| PrivateVoid | and not all of them have free wireless | 02:22 |
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| crimsun | Lupine: please don't triage general "no sound" bugs to affect alsa-driver. use 'linux' instead. | 04:38 |
| crimsun | Lupine: this policy is noted at the top of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and greatly assists the audio team | 04:39 |
| crimsun | (otherwise i end up losing quite a few resources retriaging) | 04:40 |
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| Java_Head | bug #315637 i think the bug should be set to 'wishlist' | 11:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 315637 in ubuntu "please package PowerMan" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315637 | 11:37 |
| Tycho451 | Hi everybody, I installed the libc6-i686 upgrade that came up last night (~10h ago), which failed and now I can't boot. chroot from a rescue cd brings a segmentation fault and the forums are down :( | 11:39 |
| Tycho451 | Can anybody here help me or point me in the right direction? | 11:39 |
| def13b | Tycho451: the ubuntu channel is the one your after I think | 11:41 |
| Tycho451 | Thank you | 11:52 |
| Lupine | crimsun, will do....thx for the info! | 11:58 |
| afflux | Java_Head: needs-packaging bugs are usually nothing for brainstorm. | 12:00 |
| afflux | Java_Head: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Needs%20Packaging%20Bugs, I updated to bug accordingly | 12:12 |
| Java_Head | Bug #315740 I think the bug should be set to 'wishlist' | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 315740 in ubuntu "Breton keyboard layout C'HWERTY not supported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315740 | 12:14 |
| persia | I don't think 315740 should be "wishlist". Users of that keyboard will have a hard time. I'd suggest Low or Medium. | 12:15 |
| afflux | I just received a mail from a user asking me to fix bug 205364. This doesn't seem to be known to upstream yet. Should I report it to upstream and wait until they fix it? | 12:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 205364 in emerald "Repositories tab missing in emerald-theme-manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205364 | 12:32 |
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| Hobbsee | afflux: that'd be a good start. | 12:38 |
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| Rocket2DMn | bdmurray, you told me initially that ubuntu-bug existed in Intrepid, but I also saw it in Hardy. Is it not in Hardy by default (like, did I get it with another package at some point)? | 22:28 |
| Rocket2DMn | I just finished adding a tidbit about ubuntu-bug to my beginners guide | 22:28 |
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| Rocket2DMn | bdmurray, or is it just that in intrepid you don't need the -p option? | 22:35 |
| bdmurray | Rocket2DMn: I was checking on a hardy server, I think it is in Hardy desktop | 22:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | alright, i wasnt entirely sure so i just said an up-to-date Hardy | 22:55 |
| Rocket2DMn | i saw that there is a newer version of apport hardy-updates | 22:55 |
| Rocket2DMn | thought it may have come with that | 22:55 |
| LimCore | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tor/+bug/314585 - is anyone working on it, or sohuld I make it public to give it more attention or what? | 23:17 |
| ubottu | Error: This bug is private | 23:17 |
| LimCore | tor crashes for me | 23:17 |
| * LimCore also reports it upstream | 23:17 | |
| Rocket2DMn | not allowed to view that | 23:17 |
| Ryan52 | it should only be private if it contains information that the submitter doesn't want other (untrustable) people to see. | 23:18 |
| Ryan52 | so if you're fine with all the information in the attachements being public, and you're the submitter, then make it public. | 23:18 |
| LimCore | so far just the backtrace of coredump of crash | 23:18 |
| Ryan52 | okay, but does that contain anything that you don't want other people to see? | 23:18 |
| LimCore | well it crashed quickly, so if it is indeed exploit (DoS?) then its probably well known already | 23:18 |
| Ryan52 | (passwords, bank numbers, etc etc) | 23:19 |
| LimCore | since I didnt attache the core, therefore no | 23:19 |
| persia | As long as the coredump itself is done, and the backtrace doesn't contain something like your credit-card number, it ought be safe. | 23:19 |
| persia | s/done/gone/ | 23:19 |
| LimCore | well, with tor, and running as a relay, full dump would contain some private keys | 23:19 |
| * Ryan52 nods | 23:20 | |
| persia | RIght, but the backtrace might not: you'd have to examine the files to determine if they are safe. | 23:20 |
| LimCore | hmm ok I will just report to upstream.. but I guess they will say "zomfg 0.1.x ??? why not 0.2.x" | 23:20 |
| LimCore | if I will remove some information from bug report, and then make it public, then the older version will remain private etc? | 23:21 |
| persia | Not really. The deleted information becomes deleted. | 23:21 |
| persia | I believe it may be possible for the LP admins to restore it, but that's not the same as the old report being private. | 23:22 |
| LimCore | oh well it looks like its fine. private key is probably longer then 40 char string | 23:22 |
| LimCore | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tor/+bug/314585 | 23:22 |
| ubottu | Error: This bug is private | 23:22 |
| Ryan52 | here's a stupid question: why can't I see the bug? | 23:22 |
| LimCore | well it is now public | 23:23 |
| Ryan52 | I'm bug control, I think.. | 23:23 |
| LimCore | Ryan52: perhaps you have to be in security team? | 23:23 |
| Ryan52 | oh. | 23:23 |
| Ryan52 | makes sense. | 23:23 |
| LimCore | dunno, guessing.. :) it is now public | 23:23 |
| LimCore | why my bug above is no longer considered security issue? | 23:46 |
| Ryan52 | check the activity log, ask the person who changed it? | 23:47 |
| kees | I made it not a security bug -- it's only a crash from what I can see | 23:48 |
| persia | The trick is that if one has a crash in something like tor or revelation or gnupg, it's not a security bug, although it may well be a security issue. That a crash bug may make a system insecure is different from a securityy bug. | 23:50 |
| * LimCore thinks of last epic rsa/dsa ssh bug an shutters | 23:51 | |
| LimCore | if it would be up to me I would tread all bugs as security in openpgp, ssh, tor, iptables and few related | 23:52 |
| kees | if this is more than a crash, I'm all ears. :) | 23:53 |
| LimCore | well no idea :) | 23:54 |
| LimCore | I will wait what upstream says | 23:55 |
| LimCore | kees: is such imortant program crashes, I would lost my trust in it's quality, and think it may as well have other insecure places leading to real exploit not just some crash | 23:56 |
| LimCore | also, if one is able to crash tor relay nodes (on ubuntu) then this is bad for secuiryt | 23:56 |
| LimCore | would it be anyway possible to use more up to date version of tor? | 23:57 |
| kees | I'm not very familiar with tor myself. are you able to crash tor with special traffic? | 23:57 |
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| LimCore | I dont know that yet. but it craashed very faslty, in like first 10 hours of operation, so something seems really wrong | 23:58 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if LimCore has been drinking too much tonight. | 23:59 | |
| Hobbsee | fastly? | 23:59 |
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