[00:04] <jekil> please someone can sponsor ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obextool/+bug/133748
[00:11] <crimsun> i thought we were out of the habit of assigning to u-u-s
[00:16] <nhandler> crimsun: Yeah, u-u-s should be subscribed, not assigned
[00:17] <Laney> jekil: You don't have to ask people to sponsor, someone will get to it in time
[00:17] <Laney> (also you didn't mention the control changes in your changelog)
[00:18] <Laney> (also, there is a new upstream release of this program, consider updating to it)
[00:20] <Laney> iulian: congrats!
[00:23] <iulian> Laney: Thanks.
[00:24] <Laney> Done your first upload yet?
[00:24] <nhandler> Congrats iulian
[00:25] <nhandler> iulian: You might be interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/New
[00:25] <iulian> Laney: Not yet.
[00:26] <james_w> congratulations iulian
[00:26] <iulian> nhandler: Thanks, I'll have a look at it tomorrow morning. I'm pretty tired right now and I should go to bed.
[00:26] <iulian> Thank you james_w.
[00:27]  * iulian yawns
[02:56] <nhandler> Is there anything that can be done to get a package that needs w32codecs into the repositories?
[03:04] <ScottK> nhandler: Are there w32codecs that are distributable?
[03:07] <nhandler> ScottK: I'm not sure. I'm also not sure exactly what parts of w32codecs the package needs.
[03:07] <StevenK> And I thought w32codecs needed a Windows license to use legally ...
[03:07] <ScottK> You need to be able to get a package's depends into the archive, so ....
[03:09] <nhandler> ScottK: Ok, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any other way before I told him that it can't get in with that depends
[03:09] <StevenK> Depends: windows-license
[03:10] <nhandler> StevenK: Why would I want that garbage getting pulled onto my machine?
[03:10] <StevenK> nhandler: Because that's what w32codecs legally requires
[03:23] <Hobbsee> nhandler: you can do like we do for stuff that needs libdvdcss2, fwiw.
[03:24] <Hobbsee> it's a bit dirty, but...
[03:24] <StevenK> It's quite dirty
[03:25] <nhandler> Hobbsee: He is the upstream author of the application. I'm going to see if he can modify it to not Depend on w32codecs
[03:25] <Hobbsee> nhandler: that works too
[04:07] <Amaranth> StevenK: Not even a Windows license is enough, most of that stuff says you can't use it outside of Windows and/or outside of installing their program on Windows
[04:34] <jdong> imp/win 30
[06:57] <coolbhavi> I am getting smtp send error when i use the submittodebian command
[06:58] <coolbhavi> please help anyone
[07:05] <Hobbsee> are you using your own smtp server?
[07:09] <coolbhavi> Hobbsee, no
[07:10] <coolbhavi> here is the error I get: http://pastebin.com/d709c8367
[07:13] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: they probably won't let you use their own smtp server, i suspect.
[07:14] <coolbhavi> Hobbsee, why?
[07:14] <StevenK> As long as the To address is something they accept, I don't see why not
[07:14] <Hobbsee> because letting any joe random use your smtp server is a bad idea?
[07:14] <Hobbsee> that's true
[07:15] <fabrice_sp> Hi. The package flashblock  depends of CVS image, ignoring the normal release versions (jaunty => flashblock-1.3.11a~snapshot20081113, author = 1.5.7.1). Won't it ibe better to repackage it?
[07:15] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Sure, but joe random can use your SMTP server to send you mail
[07:15] <Hobbsee> this is true
[07:16] <coolbhavi> Hobbsee, Okay so now should I open an account?
[07:16] <StevenK> Which SMTP server is it using?
[07:17] <coolbhavi> submit@bugs.debian.org
[07:17] <StevenK> That's an e-mail address, and not an SMTP server.
[07:18] <coolbhavi> okay! sorry wait a min please
[07:18] <coolbhavi> Connecting to fiordland.ubuntu.com via SMTP...
[07:19] <StevenK> That's why.
[07:19] <StevenK> fiordland isn't going to like you using it to send mail to a bugs.debian.org, address
[07:19] <StevenK> s/,//
[07:19] <coolbhavi> okay! now which address to change?
[07:20] <StevenK> coolbhavi: There should be an option to set it, I'd suggest you try rietz.debian.org
[07:20] <coolbhavi> okay!
[07:21]  * Hobbsee notes that one needs to authenticate to fiordland.ubuntu.com before sending, it appears.
[07:21] <StevenK> Oh?
[07:22] <Hobbsee> or else i'm not reading requestsync right
[07:22] <StevenK> Which line?
[07:23] <crimsun> fabrice_sp: please ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[07:23] <fabrice_sp> crimsun, will do. Thanks
[10:34] <foobarmus> Hi... I'm looking for a little guidance on the REVU process (new to it, but have read a few of the docs, and uploaded my package -- wondering what comes next)
[10:37] <foobarmus> Also saw a comment on one of the other "new packages" the other day saying it was going to be uploaded to intrepid -- wondered if that was a typo or if there is some kind of shadow process for getting packages included in older universe repositories?
[10:37] <highvoltage> iulian: congrats on being a motu!
[11:23] <dpreacher> hello
[11:29] <savvas> Hobbsee: are you living in antarctica?
[11:30] <Hobbsee> savvas: of course.
[11:32] <savvas> no, seriously, i was looking at map locations: https://launchpad.net/~hobbsee
[11:32] <Hobbsee> I figured.
[11:32] <savvas> :)
[11:32]  * Hobbsee is clearly located in Antarctica.
[11:33] <savvas> it must be so.. cool hehe
[11:34] <savvas> better yet, cold!
[11:35] <Hobbsee> very!
[11:35] <Hobbsee> Warm jackets are a must!
[11:38] <emgent> someone please stop coolbhavi ?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> emgent: from what?
[11:38] <tuxmaniac> emgent: what did he do now?
[11:39] <emgent> Hobbsee: launchpad.. him continue to notify sync and merge, but dont take time for review and test it..
[11:39] <Hobbsee> emgent: sigh.  send a mail to him, asking him to stop if he doesn't have the time to review and test?
[11:39] <emgent> we should ask to implement launchpad user ban... ehehe
[11:40] <Hobbsee> emgent: if that fails, mail the MC / MOTU list about it
[11:40] <emgent> Hobbsee: yeah.. but not reply..
[11:40] <Hobbsee> emgent: oh, so you've tried this, and he hasn't replied?
[11:40] <emgent> not now..
[11:40] <savvas> https://launchpad.net/~bhavi ?
[11:40] <emgent> i mailed yesterday
[11:40] <emgent> savvas: yea
[11:40] <tuxmaniac> savvas: yep :-)
[11:42] <sebner> emgent: I acked some syncs from him ^
[11:42] <emgent> the real problem is that him dont work in one bug.. him start to work in N bug..and mass notify sync/merge/fix in launchpad..
[11:42] <emgent> sebner: have you saw drupal sync request ?
[11:42] <StevenK> This sounds like someone we knew
[11:42] <Hobbsee> oh dear.
[11:42] <Hobbsee> StevenK: it's not the same guys
[11:42] <Hobbsee> -s
[11:42] <sebner>  emgent seen yes, reviewed no
[11:42]  * Hobbsee eyes https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gitmagic/+bug/315748
[11:43] <emgent> it`s wrong..
[11:43] <StevenK> I figured, but the behaviour patterns are disturbing
[11:43] <Hobbsee> emgent: he's clearly still active, but hasn't responded to your mail.  I'd try emailing the MOTU list, and CCing him, and seeing if that has any effect.
[11:44] <emgent> Hobbsee: yeah will try it if him dont reply to me today.
[11:44] <emgent> danke, i go to eat
[11:44] <emgent> brb people
[11:44] <tuxmaniac> Hobbsee: is there something wrong with that bug 315748 ?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> tuxmaniac: well, as for why he's giving it an ubuntu version, in the build log, i'm not sure.
[11:45] <tuxmaniac> aah Ok
[11:45] <Hobbsee> tuxmaniac: but that suggests he doesn't actually know what he's doing, and the difference between a sync and a merge.
[11:46] <StevenK> No, it's because he's uploading it to his PPA
[11:46] <StevenK> The buildlog comes the PPA
[11:46] <Hobbsee> i figured that, but he should be able to upload the debian version to a ppa
[11:46] <StevenK> Maybe he doesn't know how
[11:46]  * Hobbsee has also got no idea if he's actually changed anything else
[11:46] <StevenK>  gitmagic (20090101-1ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low
[11:46] <StevenK>  .
[11:46] <StevenK>    * Build test.
[11:47] <Hobbsee> emgent: re drupal6, launchpad says we have no ubuntu changes on it, fwiw
[11:47] <Hobbsee> eyeballing it, it's probably OK
[11:47] <savvas> what's the difference between sync and merge? because I recently asked for amarok 2.0 :P
[11:47] <emgent> Hobbsee: pong exim4 -> postfix
[11:48] <tuxmaniac> savvas: merge is when you have local changes in Ubuntu and you want to update a package from Debian
[11:48]  * Hobbsee snorts at both bugs on the drupal package.
[11:48] <savvas> tuxmaniac: and sync when you want to get a new release package?
[11:49] <StevenK> drupal6?
[11:49] <StevenK> Since drupal is a different package again
[11:49] <tuxmaniac> savvas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[11:49] <Hobbsee> StevenK: no, it's the same thing
[11:49] <StevenK> And made me go, "Um? This was removed in ... Gutsy?"
[11:49] <Hobbsee> StevenK: they go by api now
[11:49] <Hobbsee> StevenK: as in, drupal5, drupal6, etc.
[11:49] <savvas> oh, thanks!!
[11:49] <StevenK> Bleh
[11:49] <emgent> StevenK: why bleh ?
[11:49] <tuxmaniac> savvas: no. sync is when you have an outdated package with no local Ubuntu changes and there is a better version in Debian. Youmight just want a sync.
[11:50] <StevenK> emgent: Seperate packages for every API
[11:50]  * Hobbsee looks at hte eyesore from multiple people that is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drupal6/+bug/229795
[11:50] <StevenK> And that it's written in PHP
[11:50] <tuxmaniac> savvas: ofcourse one must build and check if the new package has extra dependency or any changes that prohibits from building in Ubuntu
[11:50] <emgent> Hobbsee: anyway it`snt a SYNC ubuntu use postfix and debian exim4 in default mode, also there are some scripts and dir to fix if i remember well.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> emgent: mmmkay.  https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drupal6 says it was autosynced currently, fwiw.  You may want to make ubuntu changes to it though, after the new one goes in
[11:53] <emgent> at this point ya, will do
[11:54] <Hobbsee> or just pull in the new version while you're at it
[11:54] <Hobbsee> ;)
[11:54] <StevenK> It needs Ubuntu changes?
[11:54] <emgent> StevenK: correct
[11:55] <emgent> it`s impossible think to sync Drupal form debian.. if debian use exim4 in default mode and ubuntu use postifx.
[11:56] <emgent> after that there are more little fix to apply about dirs, debian use /srv/ and ubuntu not.
[11:56] <emgent> i will take a look later.
[11:57] <Hobbsee> emgent: ah, looks like you're thinking of drupal5.  Those bugs are for drupal6.
[12:05] <james_w> is anyone here involved with the edos page for Ubuntu?
[12:22] <james_w> ah, gaspa, it looks like you may be involved with the edos page, is that correct?
[12:23] <james_w> gaspa: if so, has there been some restructuring recently?
[13:00] <gaspa> james_w: what?
[13:01] <james_w> gaspa: is http://hattory.no-ip.info/issues/edos/ anything to do with you?
[13:02] <gaspa> yep, it's mine
[13:02] <james_w> did you make some changes in the last couple of days
[13:02] <james_w> ?
[13:03] <gaspa> couple of days? no. Before the new year.
[13:03] <james_w> the links from harvest no longer go to the right place, and the csv file has gone?
[13:03] <james_w> thanks for running it though btw
[13:03] <gaspa> uhm
[13:03] <gaspa> I see
[13:03] <gaspa> in fact there's no csv files.
[13:05] <gaspa> james_w: thanks for the signal, I'm taking a look
[13:05] <james_w> thanks
[13:08] <gaspa> james_w: JFY, do you use it, usually?
[13:08] <james_w> yeah, it's a useful tool
[13:09] <gaspa> cool :) I'm refactoring the cache code, and trying to move all into python modules.
[13:09] <gaspa> so they can be re-used in other stuff.
[13:10]  * gaspa feel a little more useful to the world, now. :)
[13:44] <gaspa> james_w: run by hand seems to work. honestly I'm not understanding...
[13:44] <gaspa> feel free to ping me if it brokes again.
[13:59] <nhandler> Should the short description in debian/control begin with a capital letter?
[14:00]  * RainCT doesn't think so, but that depends on who writes it
[14:00] <Laney> qno
[14:00] <Laney> -q
[14:00] <Laney> Since the synopsis is a clause, rather than a full sentence, we recommend that it neither start with a capital nor end with a full stop (period). It should also not begin with an article, either definite (the) or indefinite (a or an).
[14:01] <nhandler> Laney: Is that from the Debian policy?
[14:01] <Laney> developers' reference
[14:01] <nhandler> :)
[14:01] <Laney> http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-pkg-synopsis
[14:04]  * RainCT should re-read all this stuff to know from where to quote when he answers something :P
[14:05]  * nhandler thinks we need to create a Packaging FAQ
[14:05] <RainCT> there is already one
[14:06] <Laney> I just googled for debian/control short description :(
[14:06] <RainCT> somewhere on wiki.ubuntu.com...
[14:06] <RainCT> Laney: hehe
[14:08] <nhandler> RainCT: I know, but iirc, it was very incomplete
[14:09] <RainCT> nhandler: complete it then :)
[14:09]  * RainCT runs
[14:09]  * iulian looks around.
[14:09] <nhandler> RainCT: I'll add it to my enormous todo list
[14:10] <iulian> RainCT: Would you please modify my revu permissions so I can advocate?
[14:10] <RainCT> btw, as soon as someone upload a new ubuntu-dev-tools revision, pbuilder-dist.new will replace pbuilder-dist
[14:10] <RainCT> iulian: sure
[14:11] <RainCT> iulian: oh, I didn't see you yesterday when I wanted to say this, so: congrats! :)
[14:11] <sebner> iulian: congratulations, btw :)
[14:11] <Laney> Replace pbuilder-dist with pbuilder-dist.new. \o/
[14:11] <nhandler> RainCT: I think we should be do for a new upload soon. The changelog is getting pretty long
[14:12] <RainCT> nhandler: yeah.. and then backport to intrepid
[14:12] <iulian> RainCT, sebner: Thanks.
[14:15] <RainCT> iulian: done (LP was slow and didn't want me to login.. :P)
[14:18] <tuxmaniac> iulian: would you like to start of some review advocacy on REVU now? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gresistor may be a nice start ;)
[14:32] <iulian> RainCT: Thanks :)
[14:33] <iulian> tuxmaniac: Sure, I will have a look at it today.
[15:02] <Laibsch> Hi there
[15:03] <Laibsch> I'm trying to upload unchanged sources from debian experimental to my ppa for testing.  According to "https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Using%20packages%20from%20other%20distributions" this should be possible and I think I did it successfully once or twice in the past
[15:04] <ScottK> Laibsch: PPA questions in #launchpad.
[15:04] <Laibsch> OK, thanks
[15:59] <anakron> HI all
[15:59] <anakron> hi persia
[16:00] <anakron> i wanna know what i can do if when i compile with cmake (my first time) appears 'Unknown CMake command "qt4_wrap_ui"'
[16:30] <anakron> hi again
[16:30] <anakron> hi Emmet
[16:30] <anakron> Hi RainCT
[16:30] <anakron> i wanna know what i can do if when i compile with cmake (my first time) appears 'Unknown CMake command "qt4_wrap_ui"
[16:31] <anakron> which package i need to install?
[16:38] <anakron> someone can help?
[16:39] <azeem> anakron: packages.ubuntu.com has a search function to see in which package a particular file is in
[16:49] <abedra> are there any plans to update git on 8.10 to current
[16:49] <abedra> ?
[16:57] <Brandon_> abedra: you may be able to package it up and submit it to the package maintainers for that project.
[16:58] <abedra> Brandon_: yeah
[16:58] <abedra> Brandon_: I will get it all packaged up
[16:58] <abedra> Brandon_: I develop in rails day to day and the capistrano deployment tool doesn't work with git 1.5.x
[16:59] <abedra> Brandon_: So it would be nice to have 1.6.x out in package form
[16:59] <Brandon_> abedra: thanks for your contribution!
[17:05] <anakron> hey
[17:05] <anakron> azeem
[17:05] <anakron> but i build dependencies
[17:05] <anakron> and i cant compile it
[17:15] <oojah> I don't suppose anybody would consider reviewing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=4467 if they've got time? I've already fixed a number of comments from irc.
[17:16] <anakron> someone can help?
[17:16] <anakron> i wanna know what i can do if when i compile with cmake (my first time) appears 'Unknown CMake command "qt4_wrap_ui"
[17:16] <anakron>  i build dependencies and they are ok
[17:16] <anakron> and i cant compile it
[17:20] <oojah> anakron: I think you need to include the cmake module with that command in in your CMakeLists.txt.
[17:22] <oojah> From http://cmake.org/cmake/help/cmake2.6docs.html I can see that qt4_wrap_ui looks to be in FindQt, so add "include (FindQt)" somewhere near the beginning of CMakeLists.txt.
[17:22] <oojah> (probably)
[17:26] <anakron> ok thanks
[18:07] <Flimm> Hello, my program, epidermis, is now displayed as a Ubuntu package at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epidermis/ what does this mean?
[18:08] <Flimm> Nothing has been published yet on that page
[18:09] <Flimm> Does this mean someone's considering adding Epidermis to the repos?
[18:17] <RainCT> Flimm: I guess it's just Launchpad being weird
[18:19] <rexbron> Hey motu
[18:19] <rexbron> Anyone want better support for firewire audio recording devices? Please review libffado: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libffado
[18:27]  * khashayar thinks ffado's the best thing since sliced bread. Please?
[19:41] <slytherin> NCommander: is there any plan on updating linux-image-* for powerpc?