[00:01] Odd-rationale: i still am not sure how to go about modding it [00:01] nor does the device show in the interfaces file [00:02] R1cochet: what manual settings are you trying to set? [00:02] ipv4 [00:02] manaul [00:04] well... idk then... doesn't it use ipv4 by default? [00:05] barack obama is a monkey [00:05] !offtopic | grap [00:05] grap: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [00:05] yea but its on automatic and i need to make it manual and have it save it after restart [00:07] bbs [00:08] Hey. I need some help getting Xubuntu to boot from a USB HDD for the first time. It's kind of a unique situation. PM me if you might be able to help. [00:19] How might one set the default behaviour of emptying the trash to use sdelete? [00:22] got it fixed [00:22] 1 more thing [00:26] i have 2 internal hdd formatted NTFS and have them mounted by the nftsconfig tool. they show up in /media but i was wondering if i could get them to show on desktop and places menu as a drive and not a folder [00:28] help! my symbols and panels are gone! [00:28] :D [00:28] rt click [00:28] ? [00:28] right click on mouse [00:28] does it bring up a menu? [00:28] no effect [00:28] nope [00:29] alt-f2 [00:29] i can start terminals [00:29] :) [00:29] xfce4-panel [00:29] Alt+F2 dosnt do anything [00:29] k [00:29] and my desktop? [00:29] did u get panels? [00:30] yes [00:30] what u mean desktop? [00:30] no everything okay [00:30] but [00:30] why did that crash? [00:30] i dunno [00:30] :D [00:31] ive had it happen a couple times and lucky enough i came across that command 2 days ago [00:31] mh [00:31] does xfce manage the desktop? [00:31] "let xfce4 handle my desktop" the hook alsways disappears [00:31] at the moment yes [00:32] compiz? [00:32] nope [00:32] no nautilus [00:32] just xfce [00:32] :-( [00:33] well in display options under behavior there is option for menu on rt click [00:33] yes [00:33] hooked [00:35] Save Session automatically on quit? [00:35] thats up to u [00:35] i get it where i like and save 1 time [00:35] mhhh [00:36] logging out and in again [00:36] everything okay, but nm-applet [00:39] thx R1cochet [01:16] Anyone around? [01:17] no [01:17] I need some help [01:17] :P j/k [01:17] np [01:18] I am a complete Linux newbie [01:18] just ask! if someone know the answer, they will help. :D [01:18] !ask [01:18] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:19] I think Ubuntu has detected my NIC card, but i wont get a DHCP address [01:19] J0nii: i suppose you are not on that machin atm? [01:19] I am [01:19] Booted to XP [01:19] oh ok... [01:20] is this wired or wireless connection? [01:20] Wired [01:21] ok. well. perhaps the easiest way would be to do this. [01:21] (might want to write some of this down) [01:21] rgr [01:21] First, open a terminal from the Applications menu. [01:22] then, to see if you card is detected, run "ifconfig". it should return at least two device: lo (loopback) and another for your ethernet card, usually eth0 [01:23] It can see wth0 [01:23] eth0* [01:24] if it is detected. then try "sudo dhclient -x eth0" to release any connection it might have. [01:25] then try "sudo dhclient eth0" to try to get an address from the dhcp server... [01:26] The DHCP server is Windows 2003 Server, is than an issue? [01:26] nope, shouldn't be [01:29] I have also tried with manual settings "192.168.1.55 / 255.255.250" [01:29] With DNS & Gateway set to the router [01:29] it says connected but i can't ping anytihng [01:29] J0nii: did "sudo dhclient eth0" give any error message? === Juan_Antonio is now known as Juan [01:30] what is the best xubuntu ish way to see what system services are running and which ones i could turn off ? [01:30] Odd-rationale: I will try those commands out and come back on here to let you know [01:31] thanks for your help so far [01:31] batcoder-7: i use htop. cli app [01:31] J0nii: no [01:31] problem [01:31] k [01:31] i mean for the turning off Odd-rationale? [01:32] batcoder-7: turning off? you mean like kill? [01:33] Odd-rationale: making them so they dont start anymore [01:33] like i am not using wifi so i dont need wpa supplicant [01:33] oh i see. [01:34] what were those commands again? [01:34] Sorry [01:34] J0nii: sudo dhclient -r eth0; sudo dhclient eth0 [01:34] Ty [01:34] BRB [01:36] batcoder-7: well, i'm not using a debain-based system atm... so i'm not 100% sure how that is done. somthing like "update-rc.d -f remove" [01:37] yea hmmm [01:37] casue with the 8.10 update xubuntu atleast on my end got a bit more bloated [01:38] or amybe just ubuntu in general [01:38] but i could prolly turn off alot of stuff [01:38] wigi stuff for one [01:38] bluetooth stuff as well [01:38] batcoder-7: can i pm you real quick? [01:39] sure === Juan is now known as juanantonio [01:55] hey [01:55] I did the commands you suggested, and saved a complete log file if that helps [01:57] No DHCPOFFERS received. [01:57] No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. [01:57] You there Odd? [01:57] yeah [01:58] J0nii: well, the probably has to be with your dhcp server now... [01:59] I thought that, but should manuel settings not work? [02:00] J0nii: again, that can depend on your server.. [02:00] I can use Manuel settings with windows and everything works fine [02:11] in xfce, how do I get the 'taskbar' back? [02:17] Overshee: try "alt+f2" and run "xfce4-panel" [02:17] command not found [02:18] xfce-panel ? [02:19] -bash: xfce-panel: command not found [02:19] im sshing in, if that matters [02:20] ok. i just totally forgot the command... try doing xfce4 and see what tab completion gives you... [02:20] cannot open display [02:21] oh [02:21] new question [02:21] more important [02:21] can i change my resolution from terminal [02:21] yeah... sometimes... what resolution do you wnat? [02:22] uh [02:22] idk, i was experimenting on how high i could set it [02:22] and i got one out of range [02:24] try running "xrandr" from the terminal and see what options ar available.. then try something like "xrandr -s 1200x1050" [02:24] can't open display [02:24] :? [02:25] lol [02:25] i just changed my resolution lol [02:26] suggetions? [02:27] im in pure terminal btw [02:27] becuase the GUI was out of range [02:30] oh bajeesus [02:30] linux kills me sometimes [02:30] Overshee: maybe reboot into recovery mode, and select, fix x ? [02:30] how do i do that? [02:31] when grub is loading press esc. then choose recovery mode from the grub menu. then select fix x. then reboot... [02:32] ty [02:32] wish there was an easier way to find my max res [02:32] on this tv [02:33] oh [02:33] found it XD [02:35] hmmm [02:35] it dodesnt have 1366x768... [02:35] @60 [02:36] can i add it? [02:37] of course ubuntu forums are down [04:29] ok, somehow i managed to make all my menus, task bars and what have you dissapear [04:29] how di i get them back? [04:29] DarkTan: did you have a lot of custom settings in your task bars? [04:30] no, i was going through the display themes when everything bu my open Konversation dissapeared [04:30] you use konversation on xubuntu? [04:30] yeah [04:30] i also have kubunto installed [04:30] oh, ok [04:31] i also don't like pidgin for IRC [04:31] xchat is the default irc client for xubuntu [04:31] hmm...never noticed that one on there [04:31] just started including it in xubuntu 8.10 [04:31] ahh, i have 8.04 [04:32] so any ideas how to get my menu's back? [04:32] do you think you could file a bug? will logging out and logging back in bring them back? [04:32] well i can't log out [04:33] unless i cold-boot it [04:33] press alt-f2 [04:33] and then enter, "xfce4-panel" into the menu that comes up [04:33] w00t, that fixed it [04:34] * DarkTan files that down for remembering [04:34] coolness [04:34] :) [04:34] thanks [04:34] not sure why it crashed, though. [04:34] maybe i was scrolling through the themes too fast [04:34] maybe... you can try again and see if it crashes on a certain theme. [04:35] on a different note, is there any way to pick my own color scheme, rather than use the supplied themes? [04:35] well i don't really like any of 'em [04:35] want my own colors [04:39] you could modify one of the theme files, but you'd kind of need to know what you're doing. [04:39] otherwise, for a selection of other themes, check out xfce-look.org [04:39] a good number of themes from gnome-look.org will also work. [04:40] ok [04:40] will do, thanks for the help [04:40] :) yw [04:53] i have a couple screensavers that dont show up in xscreensaver setup. how can i get them to list in screensaver setup [04:57] they show in gnomescreensaver and they are in /usr/lib/xscreensaver and /usr/share/xscreensaver/config [05:00] R1cochet: xscreensaver and gnomescreensaver are two different apps, and they aren't able to always use the screensavers that the other one uses. [05:00] for example, gnome-screensaver doesn't display the "phosphor" screensaver [05:01] ok but xscreensaver used to display it [05:01] just b4 i did a fresh install [05:01] it used to display a screensaver, and now no longer does? same one? same name? [05:02] there are some extra screensavers that aren't included by default [05:03] xscreensaver-data-extra and xscreensaver-gl-extra [05:03] try installing those two packages, and see if that helps [05:03] and if i click on settings>advanced in xscreensetup and change the command to what i want it will run it just fine [05:03] i have both of those [05:03] the screensaver i want is matrixview [05:05] perhaps file a bug against the xscreensaver package? [05:05] sounds like a bug [05:05] well do u have it? [05:06] i can select "matrixview" from my xscreensaver setup [05:07] i think i might remove all then reinstall [05:09] R1cochet: i just tested it, and it worked ok. :/ [05:09] what version of xubuntu are you using? [05:09] 8.1 [05:09] 8.10 [05:09] do you also have gnome-screensaver installed? [05:09] nope [05:09] that's ok - good [05:09] well i removed them all [05:10] should i restart b4 i reinstall? [05:10] type "apt-cache search xscreensaver --names-only" and make sure that you have all of those packages installed [05:10] all of the ones that come up in the list. [05:11] you can even do "sudo apt-get install (names of programs) --reinstall" [05:11] well i already completely removed through synaptic [05:12] so can i just reinstall or should i reboot [05:12] reinstall those programs? [05:13] sure [05:13] logging out would suffice, anyway... you wouldn't need to fully reboot for this. [05:13] the screensavers that i want to show up were not removed [05:14] can i delete the two xscreensaver folders? [05:14] sure [05:15] ok brb [05:15] is there a way to get a minimal xscreensaver that just fades to black and then turns off the monitor [05:16] keb: yes, just select the top option from the screensaver menu... [05:16] blank screen [05:17] ok but then can the rest be deleted [05:17] keb: any special reason why you want to delete the others? [05:17] ok should i apt-get or synaptic? [05:17] waste of disk space [05:18] R1cochet: if you're comfortable typing or copying and pasting the commands, apt-get would be fine [05:18] synaptic is a graphical front-end to apt-get [05:19] if you prefer curses you could use aptitude [05:19] so can i get all at once or should i get one then the next? [05:20] if so should i log out between [05:20] R1cochet: you can type all of the package names into the same command - just put a space between them. [05:20] sudo aptitude install xscreensaver xscreensaver-data-extras ... etc [05:20] i nkow [05:20] know [05:21] but should i just do one at a time logging out between [05:21] no, it's ok. :) [05:22] still the same [05:23] not there [05:24] hmm i no longer have the file at all [05:25] the matrix view one? [05:25] yep [05:25] note that when i installed the packs again it grabed from cache and didnt dl them [05:26] R1cochet: try installing "rss-glx" [05:27] try "sudo apt-get install rss-glx --reinstall" [05:27] didnt there used to be a xscreensavers-gl package [05:28] there still is [05:29] R1cochet: did that help? [05:30] well it installed them but they still dont show in screen setup [05:37] still not there [05:39] are u on x64 or i386 [05:39] [00:31] * j1mc has quit ("leaving") [05:42] oh well [05:42] i thank him anyway [05:43] i think i mighta found an answer tho :) [05:44] great [05:47] bbs [08:15] is there a way to browse gvfs in xfce? (8.10) [08:17] could i use nautilus in xfce without changing my desktop? [08:18] jxander: technically yes, but you have to run it from a terminal or edit the command in the launcher to be 'nautilus --no-desktop' [08:19] maxamillion: thanks! [08:20] any ideas why gvfs volumes don't work in xfce only in gnome? [08:21] no idea, never messed with gvfs volumes [08:21] i assume they just don't automount in Thunar but they do with Nautilus [08:21] so you would probably have to mount it by hand and then browse with Thunar [08:22] well... that nautilus thing fixed this too :)... nautilus sees my gvfs volumes... [08:25] maxamillion: do you by any chance know how to fix the video playback as it looks like the frames don't complete and the next frame comes over... some horizontal lines appear in movies. like it would run on a really old computer. any idea? [08:26] jxander: what graphics chipset do you have? [08:27] maxamillion: ati mobility radeon x1400 graphics card... all the 3d games work fine, compiz too. i don't use compiz though. [08:27] strange [08:28] generally if compiz works you shouldn't have any video quirks ... what media player are you using? [08:28] vlc and smplayer, but even with totem is the same thing :( [08:29] i think totem and smplayer rely on some of the same stuff, but vlc is completely different so that rules that out [08:29] i honestly don't know ... i've never heard of video playback issues while the 3d drivers are in place [08:29] i thought the codecs have something to do with it, but i don't know how to get other codecs... [08:29] jxander: have you tried other distros to see if it is just some ubuntu-base issue? [08:30] well... not in a long time... [08:30] i don't either, i don't do much with media on my computers and i don't run *buntu so i can't be sure [08:30] i used to dev for xubuntu ... long story, but i like the people so i stick around [08:30] oh... :) [08:31] i'm a fedora developer now and i'm currently studying to become an upstream kernel dev ... those will be the days :) [08:32] nice... you do this for a hobby, right? [08:33] yeah [08:33] i'm a college student, computer science undergrad currently, then off for my masters and hopefully for my phd ... i'd like to make a living doing all of this one day, but right now its just a pipe dream [08:35] :)... lol... i'm in the 3rd year at computer science and information technology... [08:36] jxander: where at? [08:36] i graduate in may with my undergrad :) [08:38] europe ;)... Technical University of Cluj-Napoca, Romania... it's in Transylvania :P [08:40] ah ok [08:40] i'm in the states [08:40] Texas to be exact [08:40] school called Sam Houston State University [08:40] i just don't sleep much :/ [09:33] Hello, Does anyone have a moment to assist me? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [13:45] What makes Xfce so much slower to start than LXDE in ubuntu 8.10? [13:46] jarnos: awesomness ;) [13:49] TheSheep: Could you be a little bit more specific? [13:50] jarnos: how am I supposed to know what is started on *your* system? [13:51] jarnos: you have all the tools needed to check it [13:52] I wonder if bootchart would work at this stage too [13:54] TheSheep: bootchart? [13:54] !info bootchart [13:54] bootchart (source: bootchart): boot sequence auditing and chart generator. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9-0ubuntu7 (intrepid), package size 97 kB, installed size 192 kB [13:54] jarnos: but simple top running on a separate console would be enough, I suppose [13:57] TheSheep: Like in a console that you get by e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1? [13:58] yeah [15:28] Hi guys I need my mom's windows XP to print to my HP PSC 750 on my Ubuntu samba server [15:28] when I try and set it up on windows it tells me "access denied, unable to connect to printer" [15:29] I think I have samba set up correctly aand I can print to it just fine [15:31] anyone know why I am getting access denied? [15:41] Anybody tried Xubuntu Jaunty? I seem to have lost the desktop; After the login, I get a blank [15:41] screen. === boerni_ is now known as boerni [16:26] hello [16:27] hello, does xubuntu close all running apps if cpu goes 100% ?? i was running a terminal when suddenly it disappeared??!! [16:28] Grab: no [16:29] jarnos, what can i do to understand why the terminal window disappeared ? [16:30] helloooo ? [16:30] Grab: Maybe it crashed. [16:30] yeah.. :( === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [17:38] hello all. I have a very simple question (I think). I [17:38] I'd like to stretch my desktop icons to make them bigger [17:38] is this possible in Xubuntu? [17:41] adrift: hi [17:41] yes you can [17:41] right click on the desktop [17:41] choose desktop settings [17:41] in the "Behavior" tab, you can set the icon size [17:42] awesome, thanks gabkdlly [17:42] i thought it'd be fairly simple [18:27] Is there a gui tool to eject a dvd? [18:28] right-click the icon on the desktop [18:29] Yes ... stupid me. [18:30] Unfortunately I've tied myself into a knot. Having inserted a new disk, nothing appears on the drive :( [18:30] The file manager sees it as empty, as does the program I'm trying to use to read it. [18:31] try going to /media/cdrom [18:31] type 'eject' in a terminal or alt+f2 dialog [18:32] use a paper clip! :D [18:33] * TheSheep uses a paper clip on Odd-rationale [18:33] ouch! [18:33] Odd-rationale: I see you are writing an e-mail, would you like me to help? (yes|yes please|argh please stop it) [18:35] Alas, I've tried all of those things (including umount -l, which probably really got me into trouble) [18:35] Araneidae: a paper clip never fails... [18:35] make sure you power off the computer when you use it, thoug [18:35] It wouldn't open the tray (though I'd already managed to remove the disk eaarlier) [18:35] h [18:35] just unbend it a little and stick it in the hole. [18:36] * charlie-tca likes a paper clip [18:36] Ahhh... No, I'm not at the switch the machine stage off yet -- I'm trying to complete a two dvd install! [18:36] So trying the paper clip with power on probably wasn't very clever [18:36] i've used the paper clip even though the machine was on... [18:36] i still think 8.10 has become more resouceful [18:36] Well, doesn't seem to have broken anything. [18:37] Doing the paperclip with power off won´t let the drawer close when you hit the button! [18:37] Araneidae: so it won't open because there is an application using it... [18:37] I think what's happened is that `umount -l` let me remove the disk ... but now I've put a new disk in I guess the application (a wine game) that's clinging onto the old mount won't let it mount properly. [18:38] Yep, think that's the shape of things. [18:38] report a bug in the windows application XD [18:39] hahaha [18:39] I mean, there is a wine problem here, clearly [18:39] ah, so now it's problem with wine [18:39] But there's also a bit of a subtle interaction mixed in [18:39] Yeah, well, I guess wine is at the heart of the problem [18:40] I still think it's the problem with the application you are trying to run :) [18:40] Well, whinging about Windows applications is going to get me precisely nowhere! [18:41] especially here :) [18:41] heh [18:41] you might ask on #wine [18:41] maybe there is a workaround [18:42] top is not showing anything crazy [18:42] resource wise [18:43] batcoder-7: what about powertop? [18:43] `lsof /media/dvd` is showing steam.exe clinging desperately onto the file [18:43] aargh, kill it! with a crowbar! [18:43] Unfortunately there's nothing there, and there won't be anymore ... so I guess that's that [18:43] TheSheep: i dont have powertop enabled [18:43] Has to be a crowbar, quite so! [18:44] * Araneidae is installing HL2 -- hope to meet some headcrabs [18:45] i wonder wy my swap is being used ? [18:46] Crowbar not required: cancel => lets go nicely. [18:46] gome system monitor is using 8 percent of my cpu [18:46]