apachelogger | LaserJock: rc1 | 00:00 |
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apachelogger | coming up in about 2 days | 00:00 |
LaserJock | apachelogger: I see a bzr revisioned tagged as 4.1.96-0ubuntu1, is that pre-emptive? | 00:02 |
apachelogger | LaserJock: KDE releases the tarballs one week before release to packagers for additional QA, build checks and binary preparation | 00:03 |
LaserJock | interesting | 00:05 |
LaserJock | is it a public download but they don't announce it widely? | 00:05 |
LaserJock | or do thet send them in the mail :-) | 00:05 |
apachelogger | LaserJock: packagers get direct access to the internal KDE ftp server, only once the appropriate directory is made world readable the public ftp server can sync it | 00:06 |
apachelogger | usually there are some modifications being done, or important last minute bug fixes that didn't make it in before tarball creation | 00:07 |
apachelogger | not many, but it happens | 00:07 |
LaserJock | right | 00:07 |
LaserJock | do they do that even for Betas? | 00:08 |
apachelogger | yep, IMHO it makes our lives easier since we have a good amount of time to prepare packages and deploy them at the same time KDE publishes the source | 00:09 |
apachelogger | also makes the users happier I suppose :) | 00:09 |
JontheEchidna | unless we're a week and a half late anyways, of course :P | 00:10 |
apachelogger | not often, but it happens :P | 00:10 |
apachelogger | that should also improve if/when we get a server where every ninja has access | 00:11 |
LaserJock | so can you not upload the packages untill KDE officially releases the tarball | 00:12 |
ScottK | Except when we do. | 00:12 |
JontheEchidna | it is very strongly suggested that we don't, since fixes can be made at the last moment | 00:12 |
ScottK | Debian uploaded 4.1.4 and it doesn't release until Monday. | 00:12 |
ScottK | Monday, right? | 00:12 |
apachelogger | depends on the timezone | 00:13 |
apachelogger | Tue UTC | 00:13 |
ScottK | Ah. | 00:13 |
ScottK | Friday in .au. | 00:13 |
ScottK | ;-) | 00:13 |
apachelogger | lol | 00:13 |
ScottK | Quassel git snapshot test building now. | 00:13 |
apachelogger | LaserJock: we upload before the embargo ends to meet our own release schedule for example | 00:14 |
LaserJock | ok, so if only a couple people in Kubuntu have access to the tarballs does it make it harder to collaborate on getting the packages ready? | 00:14 |
ScottK | apachelogger: In KDE the quassel notifications only work if focus grabbing protection is disabled. I'm wondering if we should make that the default? | 00:14 |
ScottK | LaserJock: We have a process .... | 00:15 |
JontheEchidna | LaserJock: apachelogger mirrors them on a non-publicly-disclosed-but-accessible-to-those-who-know server | 00:15 |
LaserJock | ok, makes sense | 00:16 |
apachelogger | you have no idea... in june I did a release on my own because Riddell was busy and I guess Riddell did pretty much the same for every release before | 00:16 |
ScottK | Then suddenly he was in charge. | 00:17 |
ScottK | Which was funny because he wasn't core-dev then. | 00:17 |
* apachelogger certainly got a lot of the core-dev experience through being in charge though | 00:19 | |
LaserJock | yes, I can imagine | 00:19 |
apachelogger | also we have come a long way, we started off by downloading stuff manually, now we just call a couple of scripts, do some changes and watch pbuilder build ;-) | 00:20 |
nixternal | apachelogger: and you documented all of this on the wiki right? :p | 00:21 |
ScottK | nixternal: You saw my reply to his latest proposal, right? | 00:22 |
apachelogger | nixternal: actually I did, it's just not public :P | 00:22 |
nixternal | hehe | 00:22 |
nixternal | ScottK: yup :) | 00:22 |
nixternal | I can haz wikipage or something | 00:23 |
ScottK | Yep. | 00:23 |
nixternal | I was going to respond with the same thing :) | 00:23 |
nixternal | hrmm | 00:23 |
* apachelogger will write something up once he is done with .96 reviews | 00:23 | |
ScottK | lolspeak and everything? | 00:23 |
apachelogger | I was thinking about writing it in whitespace :P | 00:24 |
apachelogger | also, it's actually all pretty straight forward if you know what all the scripts are doing ;P | 00:24 |
JontheEchidna | black magic otherwise | 00:24 |
JontheEchidna | "ZOMG! It makes teh packagez!" | 00:24 |
* ScottK hands https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/python-stepic/0.3-1 for his documentation project. | 00:25 | |
* ScottK tries to remember where to push the packaging branch for quassel .... | 00:28 | |
ScottK | Found it. | 00:29 |
ScottK | Sput: It built and the depends are good now. Thanks. | 00:33 |
* ScottK tests.... | 00:33 | |
ScottK | Note to self: Build for the release you're running. | 00:36 |
Hobbsee | hah | 00:36 |
Hobbsee | always a help | 00:36 |
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vorian | ScottK: ok, what version of mysqyl does amarok need? the ones i keep plugging in are failing in pbuilder | 01:01 |
ScottK | 5.1 | 01:01 |
vorian | yes | 01:01 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: trying resumes here | 01:01 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: kquitapp plasma && plasma now? | 01:02 |
ScottK | vorian: apachelogger knows the details. | 01:02 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yus | 01:02 |
* vorian looks to apachelogger | 01:02 | |
vorian | again | 01:02 |
apachelogger | vorian: more information required | 01:02 |
vorian | remeber earlier today, i showed you the pbuilder failuer with mysql? | 01:03 |
apachelogger | vorian: no universe? | 01:03 |
vorian | i have universe | 01:03 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it wasn't default but it shows up now | 01:03 |
apachelogger | vorian: post a complete build log then | 01:03 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ok, need a strace now | 01:04 |
vorian | pfft | 01:04 |
apachelogger | technically system.kdeglobals should override kdeglobals | 01:04 |
* ScottK returns with his 45.0 ounce/1275.8gram bag of Peanut M&Ms. | 01:04 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: what command? | 01:05 |
JontheEchidna | nvm | 01:05 |
apachelogger | strace plasma --nofork > ~/plasma-strace 2>&1 | 01:05 |
JontheEchidna | big file | 01:07 |
apachelogger | gzip and send | 01:07 |
JontheEchidna | oh, only line-wise though | 01:08 |
ScottK-laptop | OK. Here on the quassel git snapshot now. | 01:08 |
* JontheEchidna uses signature volia misspelling | 01:09 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sent | 01:09 |
apachelogger | ah | 01:12 |
apachelogger | another wrong path | 01:12 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: change your wallpaper to something else | 01:12 |
* JontheEchidna changes to KDE 4.0 default | 01:12 | |
JontheEchidna | now restart plasma? | 01:12 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yah, best make sure that plasmarc-applets applied it | 01:13 |
ScottK-desktop | ScottK-laptop: Hey. This is a test to see if notifications work. | 01:14 |
JontheEchidna | still no snow :( | 01:15 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: nah, you need a new package | 01:15 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: same url | 01:15 |
apachelogger | then restart plasma and you should have snow | 01:15 |
apachelogger | with a bit of luck at least | 01:15 |
JontheEchidna | oh | 01:15 |
JontheEchidna | no luck here | 01:17 |
apachelogger | bleh | 01:17 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: strace again please | 01:18 |
* apachelogger reinstalls his jaunty vm to try for himself | 01:18 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sent | 01:21 |
apachelogger | hm | 01:23 |
apachelogger | are you sure you upgraded the package? | 01:23 |
JontheEchidna | yes, wget, dpkg | 01:24 |
JontheEchidna | oh, unless wget tried to be smart | 01:25 |
JontheEchidna | and renamed the deb | 01:25 |
JontheEchidna | :/ | 01:25 |
apachelogger | ^_^ | 01:25 |
JontheEchidna | still no snow, though | 01:26 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: strace :P | 01:26 |
apachelogger | ah well | 01:27 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: grep the strace for /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/system.kdeglobals | 01:27 |
apachelogger | it shouldn't say (No such file or directory) | 01:27 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103347/ | 01:29 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: grep for wallpaper-of-the-month-profile | 01:31 |
JontheEchidna | nothing | 01:31 |
vorian | http://machine-crusade.net/kubuntu-devel.html | 01:31 |
* vorian retries amarok | 01:32 | |
apachelogger | hm, apparently I am speaking a lot | 01:33 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that is no good | 01:33 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: anyway, thanks | 01:33 |
JontheEchidna | yw | 01:33 |
* apachelogger will have to look into this more closely | 01:33 | |
JontheEchidna | maybe if I removed the appletsrc... | 01:33 |
JontheEchidna | haha @ my quote | 01:34 |
vorian | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103348/ | 01:34 |
apachelogger | root@osiris:/# apt-cache show libmysqlclient-dev | 01:37 |
apachelogger | root@osiris:/# apt-cache show mysql-server-5.1 | 01:37 |
apachelogger | W: Unable to locate package mysql-server-5.1 | 01:37 |
vorian | mrn | 01:37 |
apachelogger | vorian: either these packages are stuck in new, or they are just not available | 01:37 |
vorian | ah, that's prolly it | 01:37 |
apachelogger | vorian: yeah, all in new launchpad sez | 01:38 |
JontheEchidna | no luck with new appletsrc either | 01:38 |
vorian | i just checked too :) | 01:38 |
apachelogger | so, here is the question | 01:39 |
apachelogger | another glass of bloody mary, or going to bed? | 01:40 |
vorian | bloody mary | 01:40 |
apachelogger | ok | 01:40 |
* apachelogger opens another bottle of vodka | 01:40 | |
ScottK | apachelogger: Looks like your SSL cert magic works. | 01:43 |
apachelogger | yay :) | 01:43 |
ScottK | Couldn't sniff my own password this time. | 01:43 |
ScottK | Sput: I'm here on the git snapshot with split client server. The monolithic one works too. | 01:44 |
ScottK | Sput: I'm about convinced this git snapshot is working. Is there some upstream person that would be willing to subscribe to Quassel bugs in Ubuntu? | 01:47 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Any reason I shouldn't upload this? | 01:47 |
apachelogger | ScottK: unless I told you some earlier there is probably none | 01:48 |
ScottK | Not that I recall. | 01:48 |
* apachelogger is not 100% sober but thinks there was only some testing on the cert stuff to be done | 01:49 | |
JontheEchidna | kubotu: chat | 01:51 |
kubotu | 08] <Tonio_> Riddell: I already packaged smb4d, and planing to prepare the wiki static? | 01:51 |
JontheEchidna | whee, lag | 01:51 |
apachelogger | who is lagging? | 01:56 |
apachelogger | oh dear, my bf just fell a sleep watching television | 02:03 |
apachelogger | hm | 02:03 |
apachelogger | oh | 02:03 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: please check if your .kde kdeglobals contains a Directories group | 02:04 |
* ScottK wonders what decorations apachelogger has available. | 02:04 | |
apachelogger | ScottK: decorations? | 02:04 |
ScottK | If it's a deep sleep you might decorate them with something. | 02:05 |
apachelogger | rofl | 02:05 |
ScottK | Shaving cream and lipstick are traditional. | 02:05 |
ScottK | Nair is you've got a serious nasty streak. | 02:06 |
ScottK | is/if | 02:06 |
* apachelogger notes that decoration from the christmas tree is still somewhere *evilgrin* | 02:06 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: no Directories group | 02:07 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: hm, ok, I'll take a look at it | 02:12 |
apachelogger | maybe we really need to edit kde4rc, altough I'd rather avoid that | 02:13 |
torkiano | hello, I have a little problem with your KDE 4.2beta packages, Can I report a bug in launchpad? | 02:13 |
torkiano | summarizing: http://imagebin.ca/view/Us-dl8.html | 02:13 |
torkiano | the trash applet not shows its elements | 02:15 |
apachelogger | torkiano: if you are on jaunty you can report a bug, if you are on intrepid this issue might very well be caused by the fact that we don' t deploy updated localization for it | 02:15 |
torkiano | ok apachelogger, I'm in intrepid | 02:15 |
vorian | torkiano: that should be fixed when RC1 comees out next week | 02:15 |
apachelogger | vorian: are you sure? | 02:16 |
vorian | or that | 02:16 |
torkiano | vorian: grear news, thank you vorian | 02:16 |
vorian | apachelogger: it's connected to the kdm.init bug | 02:16 |
* apachelogger is wondering how that connects to kdm | 02:16 | |
vorian | it doesn't | 02:17 |
apachelogger | Oo | 02:17 |
apachelogger | you are not making sense :P | 02:17 |
vorian | yeah, i'll stop talking now | 02:17 |
apachelogger | lol | 02:17 |
* apachelogger continues decorating and then goes to bed, still a lot of reviewing to do tomorrow | 02:17 | |
ScottK | apachelogger and Sput: quassel uploaded. | 02:19 |
ScottK | seele: There is now a git snapshot of quassel with KDE integration enabled in Jaunty and on my PPA for Intrepid https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive/ | 03:07 |
ScottK | seele: This is, less one small commit, the current state of the development tree. It might be worth a quick relook to see if any new usability things pop up. | 03:08 |
* ScottK discovers there is a "Emoticons Themes Manager" and despairs. | 03:12 | |
torkiano | ScottK: Wow, Kvirc4 is very impressive, thank you for the PPA | 03:26 |
ScottK | torkiano: You're welcome. I think it's a bit much for newbies, so not great for our default, but it's a good client. | 03:27 |
ScottK | I should probably upload that to the archive too. | 03:27 |
torkiano | Maybe, quaseel is a little confusing, too. Mainly because of its distributed architecture | 03:31 |
torkiano | but as dar as I Know they are working in it | 03:31 |
ScottK | Yes. The client/core is. We're intending the monolithic client as the default. | 03:32 |
torkiano | I wonder if you mind if I put links to your PPA in this thread in kde forum: http://forum.kde.org/kde4-qt4-replacements-for-konversation-t-23842.html | 03:35 |
ScottK | No. I don't mind. | 03:36 |
ScottK | If I get bug reports, I'll mind. | 03:36 |
ScottK | rgreening: Still up? | 03:37 |
torkiano | ScottK: I understand. I'll wait until you upload kvirc4 to the archive | 03:42 |
ScottK | It may be awhile. I built my package on work rgreening did and I'd rather let him finish it and get the credit if he's interested. | 03:53 |
rgreening | hry | 04:13 |
rgreening | hey even | 04:14 |
rgreening | ScottK: Im around... I have been a bit tied up with $work :) | 04:14 |
rgreening | + holidays... I should have some time starting Monday... | 04:15 |
ScottK | rgreening: I updated your kvirc package to a newer snapshot and then played with it some. | 04:15 |
rgreening | That's cool | 04:15 |
ScottK | rgreening: I think it's good enough to put in the archive as kvirc (modulo fixing the comments I gave you). | 04:16 |
ScottK | rgreening: So would you be up for updating it next week then (as kvirc, not kvirc-kde4)? | 04:16 |
rgreening | awesome | 04:16 |
ScottK | I take it that's a yes? | 04:16 |
rgreening | sure nthing. | 04:16 |
rgreening | thing... | 04:17 |
ScottK | Great. | 04:17 |
rgreening | :P | 04:17 |
ScottK | rgreening: Ping me when you need a sponsor. | 04:17 |
rgreening | ok. ty. | 04:17 |
ScottK | torkiano: ^^ Next week some time. | 04:19 |
rgreening | Scott: what changes besides the -kde4 do I need? Obviously update the tar.gz to current snapshot/release/ver | 04:20 |
rgreening | ScottK^ | 04:20 |
ScottK | rgreening: Do you still have my comments in your IRC logs? | 04:21 |
torkiano | ScottK: I upgrade the post when that happens ;-) | 04:21 |
ScottK | Well grep kvirc * acrosss my IRC logs tells me who uses kvirc. | 04:22 |
rgreening | probably. If those are the ones, I am pretty sure I did those.. | 04:22 |
ScottK | I didn't see an upload after I gave you the comments. | 04:22 |
rgreening | hmm... | 04:22 |
rgreening | let me look | 04:23 |
rgreening | ScottK: https://launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive | 04:25 |
ScottK | rgreening: That's after I gave you comments. | 04:25 |
ScottK | So I guess you did. | 04:25 |
rgreening | :) | 04:26 |
rgreening | ScottK: If you have a look and see any glaring bad things... feel free to let me know. I'll update hte package next week without the -kde4 extension. | 04:27 |
ScottK | OK. If I get motivated I will. | 04:27 |
ScottK | rgreening: Since it's a Universe package, when you ask me, ask me in #ubuntu-motu. | 04:27 |
rgreening | kk. | 04:28 |
ScottK | When you apply for MOTU we want these people to know who you are. | 04:28 |
rgreening | for sure | 04:28 |
rgreening | ty | 04:28 |
ScottK | No problem. The more people who know what they are doing and have upload rights, the less for me to do ... | 04:28 |
rgreening | true dat | 04:29 |
Tm_T | (: | 04:29 |
ScottK | Man with one big eyebrow and no mouth? | 04:30 |
ScottK | or nose | 04:30 |
rgreening | ahaha | 04:30 |
Tm_T | left-handed smiley | 04:30 |
rgreening | tim-may! | 04:30 |
Tm_T | rgreening: ? | 04:31 |
rgreening | nvm | 04:31 |
Tm_T | nevervontermights? | 04:32 |
vorian | wow | 04:32 |
rgreening | lol | 04:32 |
rgreening | nwn | 04:32 |
vorian | you can put a sftp address in folderview :D | 04:32 |
rgreening | hahah | 04:32 |
vorian | that is awesome | 04:32 |
rgreening | oh I need sleep | 04:32 |
Tm_T | vorian: sure | 04:32 |
vorian | i'm always the last to notice things :) | 04:33 |
Tm_T | vorian: well there will be thousands of people noticing after you so no worries | 04:33 |
vorian | hehe | 04:34 |
ScottK | That's one of the things I love about KDE is you can pretty much to that anywhere. | 04:34 |
ScottK | Gnomish stuff seems to fall over and get upset. | 04:34 |
LaserJock | vorian: that rocks | 05:36 |
* LaserJock comes late to the "sftp in folderview" party | 05:37 | |
torkiano | Sckott: I have problems with your quassel packages: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/quassel-client_0.4.0~git090110-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_i386.deb (--unpack): | 07:22 |
torkiano | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/apps/quassel/quassel.notifyrc', which is also in package quassel | 07:22 |
Tm_T | Riddell: knew this? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/business/11ubuntu.html?_r=1 | 07:54 |
briseight | Hi | 09:51 |
briseight | I'm building digikam | 09:51 |
briseight | from svn | 09:52 |
briseight | I need libkipi | 09:52 |
jussi01 | briseight: you do realise there is a recent version in ppa? | 09:52 |
briseight | no | 09:53 |
jussi01 | briseight: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/digikam-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main | 09:53 |
briseight | but I would like to build it from svn | 09:53 |
briseight | thx | 09:53 |
jussi01 | briseight: thats just a few days old | 09:53 |
briseight | there are a lot of libkipi version | 09:53 |
briseight | libkipi5 libkipi6 libkipi0 | 09:54 |
briseight | what is the difference? | 09:54 |
jussi01 | no idea tvh | 09:56 |
Tonio_ | hi there ;) | 10:51 |
Tonio_ | finally got internet at home !!! | 10:51 |
smarter | hey toma | 10:51 |
smarter | woops | 10:51 |
smarter | hey Tonio_ | 10:51 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll push some packages today... they're offline for a moment right now | 10:51 |
smarter | toma: sorry :p | 10:51 |
Tonio_ | hi smarter | 10:51 |
Tonio_ | 7 month without internet connection at home..... so goot to be connected outside of work | 10:52 |
Tonio_ | is jaunty usable right now ? I'm currently upgrading.... | 10:52 |
Tonio_ | smarter: any info about it's status ? I've been offline those last weeks so I have no idea wether it works or not :) | 10:53 |
smarter | Tonio_: didn't try to upgrade, imho it's not really useful at the moment | 10:54 |
Tonio_ | smarter: hum, well to test latest kde packages, it is imho | 10:54 |
Tonio_ | we'll see if it reboots or not :) | 10:54 |
smarter | Tonio_: we backport everything to intrepid | 10:55 |
smarter | good luck :p | 10:55 |
smarter | I just have a jaunty schroot set up | 10:55 |
Tonio_ | smarter: hum, yeah, but backports are generally poorly maintained and don't receive lots of fixes... | 10:55 |
smarter | that's what we try to avoid | 10:56 |
Tonio_ | it's the very first time I have a 3.5 MB/s upload speed at home... impressive... | 10:56 |
Tonio_ | that'll be usefull :) | 10:56 |
smarter | wow | 10:56 |
Tonio_ | and 50 MB/s download (theorically 100 but hard drive + wifi is the limit !!) | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | Mb, not MB, sorry :) | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | anyway that's still pretty good :) | 10:58 |
smarter | yup | 10:58 |
Tonio_ | smarter: do you know if guidance replacement by powerdevil was discussed recently ? | 11:02 |
smarter | yes | 11:02 |
Tonio_ | smarter: I need to get infos on what's going on now I'm really back ;) | 11:02 |
smarter | iirc, it was decided to keep guidance in the repo, but to switch to powerdevil by default | 11:03 |
danimo | moin | 11:03 |
Tonio_ | smarter: okay | 11:03 |
Tonio_ | hey danimo !! long time no see !! | 11:03 |
smarter | not sure how we'll handle the transition | 11:03 |
Tonio_ | smarter: what about pataching the powerdevil applet so that it goes in the systray in the first place ? | 11:03 |
danimo | question:does anybody know if the gtk-qt-kde4 theme is finally good enough to make firefox look good? | 11:03 |
danimo | hi Tonio_ :) | 11:04 |
Tonio_ | smarter: to many applets in the bar take up to much space.... | 11:04 |
danimo | the one in 8.10 has a quite some issues | 11:04 |
Tonio_ | smarter: better have them in the systray imho, as for networkmanager too | 11:04 |
Tonio_ | danimo: yeah, but that's a long time plan discussion :) | 11:04 |
smarter | Tonio_: this should be discussed with the plasma devs, I think the idea is to get the plasmoids in the systray | 11:04 |
Tonio_ | danimo: also, I hope the kde crew will do something with notification... there are WAY to much of them right now | 11:05 |
Tonio_ | smarter: should probably be an option btw... | 11:05 |
danimo | Tonio_: it mostly annoys me with kopete | 11:05 |
Tonio_ | danimo: and what about file copy :) | 11:05 |
danimo | Tonio_: well, I never liked that anyway | 11:06 |
Tonio_ | danimo: have you tried to load ktorrent with a bunch of torrents loaded ? | 11:06 |
Tonio_ | your screen get full of notifications :) | 11:06 |
smarter | Tonio_: report bugs everytime you see them when you shouldn't, the devs need to specify it explicitely in the code so that they don't appear | 11:06 |
danimo | Tonio_: the problem is that kio does not distinguish between downloads and file copy operations | 11:06 |
Tonio_ | smarter: yep, that's probably a ktorrent issue | 11:06 |
smarter | and the fix should be easy | 11:06 |
Tonio_ | smarter: I think so... | 11:07 |
Tonio_ | danimo: interesting... | 11:07 |
Tonio_ | what about the policykit applet ? | 11:07 |
Tonio_ | last time I tried it didn't work at all... | 11:07 |
danimo | Tonio_: you can make them silent, e.g. if you know the operation is probably local, but nobody seems to do thgat | 11:07 |
* danimo goes for breakfast | 11:08 | |
Tonio_ | danimo: I'll check if that can simply be kiosk configured for the softwares causing problem... | 11:08 |
danimo | Tonio_: I doubt it | 11:17 |
danimo | Tonio_: about the policykit applet: no idea. I'm still not very involved in KDE dev again | 11:17 |
danimo | Tonio_: you can now ask me all about Qt Creator though :) | 11:18 |
Tonio_ | danimo: :) | 11:18 |
Tonio_ | the problem is that whenever you need to take a break..... everything changes so fast.... | 11:18 |
danimo | Tonio_: tell me about it | 11:21 |
danimo | Tonio_: I finished studies and suddenly everything's changed | 11:21 |
danimo | which is good to see, since there is progress | 11:21 |
danimo | but well, it's quite some effort to get going again | 11:21 |
Tonio_ | true that.... | 11:24 |
Tonio_ | danimo: running through personal issues, I couldn't contribute much for 7 month... alike | 11:24 |
danimo | Tonio_: last thing I heard about you was getting married and stuff | 11:29 |
Tonio_ | danimo: that's old stuff :) | 11:35 |
Tonio_ | danimo: we split.... | 11:35 |
Tonio_ | danimo: in fact she had another guy for month when we where planning to get married.... | 11:35 |
Tonio_ | danimo: pretty rude :) | 11:35 |
* Tonio_ crosses fingers and reboots.... jaunty please, give me a good feeling ! | 11:36 | |
Tonio_ | re | 11:44 |
Tonio_ | hum it works surprisingly well.... | 11:44 |
wesley | ive reported more bugs for 9.04 | 12:12 |
apachelogger | ScottK: seeing torkiano's error I would suppose share/kde4/apps/quassel also ought to go to quassel-data | 12:52 |
apachelogger | headache-- | 12:53 |
apachelogger | wesley: reporting bugs against kde*-kde4 products doesn't make much sense because we don't monitor them anymore | 12:55 |
apachelogger | wesley: apt-cache show juk | grep Source | 12:56 |
apachelogger | that should spitout the appropriate source package to report the bug against | 12:56 |
wesley | ow though that already, but some are distro related | 13:29 |
wesley | gues the problems will be fixed in kde4.2 final | 13:30 |
wesley | going see if in kde4.2 rc is the problem, if not its fixed within kde | 13:32 |
wesley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~velroy1 | 13:34 |
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apachelogger | wesley: that has nothing to do with distro related or not, it's about reporting bugs against the right package | 13:35 |
apachelogger | usr/bin/juk was never created by kdemultimedia-kde4 | 13:36 |
wesley | which package is it then? kdemultimedia ? | 13:37 |
apachelogger | aye | 13:38 |
wesley | kdemultimedia-kde4 is from 8.04 isnt it ? | 13:39 |
apachelogger | wesley: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Bugs/FindRightPackage | 13:39 |
apachelogger | yes, -kde4 is from hardy | 13:39 |
wesley | You know that people por linux drivers to osx ? | 13:45 |
apachelogger | wesley: I suppose you mean port? | 13:46 |
wesley | yeah port | 13:46 |
apachelogger | didn't know that | 13:47 |
apachelogger | but I imagine that would be rather pointless | 13:47 |
apachelogger | osx is based on bsd, now while both linux and bsd are posix compatible the way their driver stacks are quite different AFAIK | 13:47 |
wesley | its not really for legal purpose but its nice to see such a commiuty, it reminds me about Linux :) | 13:48 |
apachelogger | wesley: well, they make use of the linux driver's implementation details, so they don't have to analyze the hardware themselfs, so one could say they only "borrow" knowledge ;-) | 13:49 |
apachelogger | something not possible for most linux drivers though | 13:50 |
wesley | yeah, they doing pretty well if you ask me, i dont get why osx wont be there for the pc, but those drivers that people make should be in handy for say external wlan devices | 13:52 |
apachelogger | wesley: apple would loose it's main advantage if osx was available for anything but macs | 13:53 |
wesley | say is juk unmainted ? | 13:53 |
apachelogger | anyway | 13:53 |
apachelogger | off-topic | 13:53 |
apachelogger | wesley: again | 13:53 |
wesley | juk is ontopic | 13:53 |
apachelogger | not so much either :P | 13:53 |
* apachelogger knows no one who actually uses juk | 13:53 | |
Tm_T | apachelogger: I do | 13:53 |
Tm_T | when Amarok fails that is | 13:54 |
apachelogger | Tm_T: mom, then I would have to use juk all the time :P | 13:54 |
wesley | is it maineted by kde? because there are no responds on my bug reports | 13:54 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: I don't, as my amarok is just fine | 13:54 |
Tm_T | wesley: ot | 13:54 |
wesley | i prefer juk over amarok | 13:54 |
Tm_T | wesley: gah, sorry | 13:54 |
wesley | ot ?? | 13:55 |
Tm_T | wesley: it's part of kdemultimedia | 13:55 |
wesley | oh, doesnt really seem to be maintned if you ask me | 13:55 |
apachelogger | wesley: help -> about juk | 13:55 |
apachelogger | and just because you didn't recive a reply on your bugs doesn't mean it's unmaintained | 13:56 |
apachelogger | Riddell, JontheEchidna: did anyone fix bindings? | 13:56 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: kdepimlibs bug which was fixed, it builds fine without any modification to Riddell's first package | 13:56 |
apachelogger | ok | 13:58 |
apachelogger | Riddell: I'll mark it reviewed | 13:58 |
wesley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guidance-power-manager/+bug/269592 i think this is fixed in 9.04 ? | 13:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 269592 in guidance-power-manager "[Kubuntu 8.10 Alpha] Guidance Manager doesnt set brightness good at startup" [Undecided,New] | 13:59 |
apachelogger | we don't use guidance-power-manager by default anyway | 14:01 |
wesley | yeah found another bug, this time in package usb-creator | 14:02 |
wesley | apachelogger , gues that solved the problems, because in 8.04 and 8.10 it wasnt working like i wwanted | 14:05 |
wesley | how do i find package detalil ? | 14:05 |
wesley | ubuntu is hard working on the intel issues ??? | 14:07 |
apachelogger | what kind of package detail? | 14:07 |
apachelogger | and for which package | 14:07 |
wesley | usb-creator | 14:07 |
wesley | and how can i report against 9.04? i always fill this in [ Kubuntu 9.04 Alpa 2 ] | 14:08 |
apachelogger | wesley: you should stop that | 14:11 |
apachelogger | a bug affects all series unless someone proofs it is only vaild for 9.04 or 8.10 ... | 14:11 |
apachelogger | wesley: usb-creator is an ubuntu thing, so you might want to ask in #ubuntu | 14:11 |
wesley | i have found the info, why not use tags like which branch i am uing? i though that would be better for developers | 14:12 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: join ##club-ubuntu for bug squashing purpose :P | 14:12 |
wesley | so if i get it right, its better to report without pointing which branch i use? | 14:14 |
JontheEchidna | my dog is chewing on my dad's beard... | 14:14 |
wesley | i only have cats | 14:14 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: another 2 hours to release I hope - getting started on the announcement now | 14:15 |
wesley | apachelogger what if i know sure its related to 9.04 ? because ive used usb creator on 8.10 and it worked | 14:15 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: packages for intrepid are ready | 14:16 |
Nightrose | excellent | 14:17 |
wesley | http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/103538/ | 14:17 |
apachelogger | wesley: that doesn't mean it can be fixed for 9.04, so it might as well affect 9.10 | 14:17 |
wesley | oh okay, anyway if i spit the file, see this ImportError: No module named gnomevfs | 14:18 |
wesley | should i name that in my title ? | 14:18 |
apachelogger | yeah, probably a dependency issue in sub-creator | 14:18 |
apachelogger | wesley: for example | 14:18 |
apachelogger | the triagers will change the title to the most productive form anyway if necessary | 14:19 |
wesley | okay, then, i going test maby to on my acer machine | 14:19 |
wesley | its better to test on more machines isnt it ? | 14:20 |
apachelogger | yes | 14:20 |
wesley | then i going run unstable on both | 14:21 |
apachelogger | wesley: having a virtualmachine ought to be enough in most cases | 14:22 |
wesley | ive something must better, i have a stable osx on my machine so i dual boot with osx and ubuntu is unstable | 14:24 |
ScottK | apachelogger: I agree I put the notify thing in the wrong package for quassel. | 14:30 |
wesley | cant i help on lauchpad for people who want to ask something about kde4 in there dutch laugugae? | 15:02 |
apachelogger | wesley: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase | 15:11 |
apachelogger | it's organized by source package, so you might want to subscribe to more than just kdebase | 15:11 |
apachelogger | it's like subforums for every source package | 15:11 |
wesley | you added me :) thanks, | 15:12 |
wesley | i can answer also in dutch | 15:13 |
wesley | !kdenlive | 15:26 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about kdenlive | 15:26 |
JontheEchidna | !info kdenlive | 15:39 |
ubottu | kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.svn20071228-0.0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 871 kB, installed size 2624 kB | 15:39 |
JontheEchidna | !info kdenlive jaunty | 15:39 |
ubottu | kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0.0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 1300 kB, installed size 3916 kB | 15:39 |
seele | ScottK: which one do i want? quassel or quassel-client? | 15:42 |
* seele waves to jjesse | 15:42 | |
seele | 'morning | 15:42 |
jussi01 | seele: quassel for the monolithic build | 15:42 |
seele | jussi01: thanks | 15:42 |
jjesse | monring | 15:43 |
wesley | I need someone with a credit card to pay some flight tickets | 15:51 |
* seele blinks | 15:52 | |
jussi01 | err, what? | 16:02 |
doc__ | hi there | 16:28 |
alleeHol | \sh: mhmm, happy birthday \o/ | 16:50 |
torkiano | 16:56 | |
torkiano | Hello, what is the kubuntu policy with KDE3 bugs? | 16:57 |
ScottK | torkiano: Depends on the package. | 16:58 |
torkiano | For triaging this: bug 47429 | 16:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 47429 in kdenetwork "kopete does not connect through proxy" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47429 | 16:58 |
torkiano | is kopete | 16:58 |
ScottK | Also I'm fixing the quassel conflicting file problem right now. Thanks. | 16:58 |
torkiano | You are welcome | 16:59 |
ScottK | torkiano: Does the KDE4 version do it? | 16:59 |
torkiano | As far as I know, no | 16:59 |
ScottK | The it's still a valid bug. | 16:59 |
torkiano | Then, this is not a valid response: http://pastebin.ca/1305993 | 17:01 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Do I need to conflict/replace or just conflict when I shuffle files from package to package? | 17:03 |
* ScottK didn't get enough sleep in the last few days to remember. | 17:03 | |
apachelogger | ScottK: replace | 17:03 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Thanks. | 17:03 |
apachelogger | both only when the package completely replaces another one | 17:03 |
ScottK | Right. | 17:05 |
ScottK | torkiano: I'm not a fan of such replies. I tend to believe it's a bug until someone has reason to believe it's not. Can you try it with a proxy? | 17:06 |
ScottK | But that's just me. Asking everyone to reproduce every bug in every release and invalidating the bug is all the rage these days in bugsquad. | 17:07 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: Weren't you working on updating kdenlive to a new version or something? | 17:07 |
JontheEchidna | I don't think I was | 17:08 |
torkiano | ScottK: not here, I try tomorrow in the work | 17:08 |
ScottK | torkiano: I think that's a much more useful triaging action. | 17:09 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 17:09 |
torkiano | ScottK: And if tomorrow I can't reproduce the bug with my KDE4, what is the next step? | 17:11 |
ScottK | If you can connect via a proxy, then the bug is fixed. Just mark it fix released. | 17:11 |
ScottK | Generally you invite the reporter then to try it in a new release and reopen the bug if it still doesn't work for them. | 17:12 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Please double check me on this... For quassel-data: | 17:16 |
ScottK | Conflicts: quassel-client (=< 0.4.0~git090110-0ubuntu1), quassel (=< 0.4.0~git090110-0ubuntu1) | 17:16 |
apachelogger | ScottK: ah, I am being silly as well | 17:16 |
apachelogger | yo need a replaces | 17:16 |
apachelogger | *you | 17:16 |
ScottK | OK. | 17:16 |
ScottK | That's the correct syntax though, right? | 17:17 |
apachelogger | nah <= not =< | 17:17 |
ScottK | OK. | 17:17 |
* ScottK fixes | 17:17 | |
ScottK | Thanks. | 17:17 |
apachelogger | and I thought my hangover had bad influence on my work :) | 17:18 |
apachelogger | oh | 17:22 |
apachelogger | my | 17:22 |
apachelogger | god | 17:22 |
apachelogger | it's 11th again | 17:22 |
apachelogger | ~order birthday package for \sh | 17:22 |
* kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present. | 17:22 | |
* kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to \sh and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer. | 17:22 | |
kubotu | Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday \sh, happy birthday to you!!!! - Wooooho! | 17:22 |
kubotu | Happy Birthday \sh :D | 17:22 |
kubotu | To your health! | 17:22 |
Tm_T | ok | 17:22 |
apachelogger | \sh: happy bday *hug* | 17:22 |
* apachelogger hands \\sh a box of cookies | 17:23 | |
Tm_T | Kubuntu Kookies! | 17:23 |
apachelogger | ah | 17:23 |
apachelogger | bad! | 17:23 |
apachelogger | that makes KK | 17:23 |
apachelogger | you don't want to have KK, really | 17:23 |
Tm_T | Kool Kubuntu Kookies then | 17:23 |
apachelogger | K3 | 17:23 |
ScottK | No, that's worse. | 17:23 |
Tm_T | how so? | 17:23 |
ScottK | KKK is a severely racist organization in the US. | 17:24 |
apachelogger | so | 17:24 |
apachelogger | why do your racist organizations have K's in their names? | 17:24 |
Tm_T | oh I know, and we have big crocery stores called KKK-Supermarket here | 17:24 |
apachelogger | in europe they at least use something with N | 17:24 |
apachelogger | Tm_T: oh dear | 17:24 |
Tm_T | well K KK KKK and biggest ones are KKKK | 17:25 |
apachelogger | we should just use kenji signs instead | 17:25 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: why not Kubuntu signs? | 17:25 |
ScottK | Well it's ~ a century and a half old, so I think they got there first. | 17:25 |
apachelogger | Tm_T: because we only have one :P | 17:25 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: but that's enough! | 17:26 |
apachelogger | if you say so :P | 17:26 |
apachelogger | we need a font though | 17:26 |
apachelogger | and make it default, otherwise we can't use the sign on IRC | 17:26 |
Sput | happy birthday \sh! | 17:26 |
Sput | \sh: we shall have a (two, three, many) beer(s) as soon as I've started drinking again :) | 17:27 |
apachelogger | Sput must be sober, he is so unproductive :P | 17:27 |
Sput | I am :( | 17:27 |
* ScottK points out http://techbase.kde.org/Development/CMake_KDE_4_2 | 17:27 | |
apachelogger | back in the days you broke and rewrote quassel in one day | 17:27 |
Sput | I'm busy figuring out why QFormLayout sucks in Oxygen theme | 17:28 |
Sput | can't give seele her middle alignment stuff with that bug :/ | 17:28 |
apachelogger | ScottK: something interesting about it? | 17:28 |
ScottK | It summarizes build system changes 4.0/4.1 -> 4.2 | 17:29 |
ScottK | Sput: Did you see the minimize bug discussions from last night on #quassel? | 17:32 |
Sput | ScottK: yeah, didn't get around to look at it though | 17:33 |
nixternal | do we have the 2.0.1.1 amarok in intrepid yet? | 17:33 |
ScottK | nixternal: vorian was working on it yesterday. | 17:33 |
nixternal | groovy | 17:33 |
ScottK | Sput: OK. As long as it goes on the list. | 17:33 |
ScottK | nixternal: It's punted to Universe so mere MOTU can deal with it. | 17:33 |
ScottK | ;-) | 17:33 |
nixternal | looks like there is an amarok-kde4 update in intrepid already :) | 17:34 |
ScottK | Yes, but it doesn't use the official mysql 5.1 packages, so there's more work for Jaunty to get it more right. | 17:34 |
apachelogger | ScottK: he worked on jaunty | 17:35 |
apachelogger | also for jaunty 5.1 is still in binary new | 17:35 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Right. You did the Intrepid one. | 17:35 |
ScottK | That too. | 17:35 |
* ScottK wonders if Riddell can find a moment to fix that (get mysql 5.1 out of binary New)? | 17:35 | |
apachelogger | Riddell: what does one have to do to become archive admin? :P | 17:36 |
ScottK | Working for Canonical helps a lot. AFAIK, Hobbsee is the only exception, but has limited access as a result. | 17:45 |
nixternal | Hobbsee: no more Vista for me! Windows 7!!! :P | 17:47 |
ScottK | Nightrose: So Amarok works with Audible? | 17:47 |
Tm_T | nixternal: 7lover! | 17:47 |
nixternal | hahahaha | 17:47 |
* Tm_T hides | 17:47 | |
Tm_T | nixternal: damn you, we have to change all factoids | 17:47 |
nixternal | don't know yet...they opened up beta testing to everyone...so I am going to see if it is all people are saying it is | 17:47 |
nixternal | I will give an un-biased report of course :p | 17:47 |
Tm_T | !nixternal | 17:48 |
ubottu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, and help on the MIRC client too! <nixternal> I LOVE MIRC!!! | 17:48 |
Nightrose | ScottK: it did in 1.4 - i don't think Alejandro got around to making it work in 2 | 17:48 |
ScottK | OK. | 17:49 |
Nightrose | but it is planned | 17:49 |
ScottK | Nightrose: Audible is the thing that stands between my wife and being Windows free ... | 17:49 |
* ScottK is interested ... | 17:49 | |
Nightrose | *nod* | 17:49 |
Nightrose | xevix and aumuell are the guys to talk to about it | 17:49 |
Nightrose | aumuell being the guy who did it for 1.4 | 17:50 |
nixternal | !nixternal | 17:50 |
ubottu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Windows7 lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, and help on the MIRC client too! <nixternal> I LOVE MIRC!!! | 17:50 |
nixternal | hahahahahahahha | 17:50 |
Nightrose | *lol* nixternal | 17:50 |
Nightrose | so you love it, he? | 17:50 |
Tm_T | sorry, had to fix that | 17:50 |
nixternal | Nightrose: haven't even tried it yet, downloading it now | 17:50 |
Nightrose | ;-) ok | 17:50 |
nixternal | I need to go get another hard drive | 17:50 |
Nightrose | tell us how much you love it once you tried | 17:51 |
Nightrose | :P | 17:51 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: JontheEchidna: can one of you update http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Kubuntu please? | 17:54 |
nhandler | What is the best way to test out the latest kde on intrepid? I'm still getting used to not running the Development version of Ubuntu | 18:01 |
apachelogger | nhandler: kubuntu-experimental PPA | 18:01 |
apachelogger | nhandler: also I think JontheEchidna could use some help with backporting | 18:01 |
nhandler | Thanks apachelogger | 18:01 |
nhandler | apachelogger: What is he backporting? | 18:01 |
apachelogger | nhandler: 4.1.96 | 18:01 |
nhandler | To intrepid? | 18:02 |
apachelogger | or at least I am hoping he started backporting already :) | 18:02 |
apachelogger | nhandler: yes | 18:02 |
nhandler | Sure, I could give him a hand. Is the progress being tracked anywhere? Or should I just ask him what he has done? | 18:03 |
seele | ScottK: i saw you made a comment about notifications in quassel, is it using knotify now? | 18:09 |
ScottK | seele: Now it is. | 18:09 |
ScottK | It wasn't before. | 18:09 |
seele | ScottK: ok great | 18:09 |
ScottK | It was actually better before. | 18:09 |
seele | ScottK: i didnt get to install .4 yet (i'll get to it in about 30 minutes after i finish emails).. but does Quassel have an option to run in the systram without having an entry in the task panel? | 18:10 |
seele | ScottK: i'm annoyed with the plasma notifications, but i forget if they were improved for rc1. theyre too big and block too much of my work area | 18:10 |
ScottK | seele: It does, but it's currently bugged. Sput's aware of it. | 18:10 |
seele | ScottK: ok.. as long as it's planned. | 18:10 |
* ScottK is using it with 4.1.3, so dunno what it's like with 4.2. | 18:11 | |
ScottK | It'd be handy if someone running 4.2 would take a screenshot of a quassel notification using the Jaunty package or the one from my PPA? | 18:11 |
* ScottK looks around. | 18:11 | |
Sput | ScottK: actually, close-to-tray seems to work fine here | 18:12 |
ScottK | Sput: Clost to try works. It's minimize to try that was the problem. | 18:12 |
ScottK | Was/Is. | 18:12 |
* ScottK needs more coffee | 18:12 | |
jussi01 | ScottK: I can take a screenie of git +4.2 if you like? | 18:13 |
ScottK | jussi01: With the KDE integration enabled? | 18:13 |
jussi01 | ScottK: yeah | 18:13 |
Sput | ScottK: that works here too :( | 18:13 |
ScottK | Yes. Please. | 18:14 |
jussi01 | ScottK: please hilight me then :) | 18:14 |
ScottK | Sput: With KDE integration. | 18:14 |
Sput | ScottK: yes of course. | 18:14 |
ScottK | jussi01: Hello from #kubuntu-devel | 18:14 |
ScottK | Sput: Dunno what to say then. Definitely no workee here. | 18:14 |
Sput | ScottK: I have tried both checking and unchecking the box, and Quassel minimizes fine with both minimize and close button | 18:15 |
Sput | I'm running KDE trunk though | 18:15 |
ScottK | Maybe that's it. | 18:15 |
* ScottK looks at jussi01 to try it too. | 18:15 | |
* Sput updates and restarts quassel just in case | 18:15 | |
Sput | ScottK: so you have both options checked? | 18:16 |
ScottK | Sput: I've tried it with both and only one. | 18:16 |
jussi01 | ok, hilight again? (sorry) | 18:16 |
ScottK | jussi01: Does minimize-to-tray work for you? | 18:16 |
ScottK | Sput: It did not work both with both options checked and with just minimize-to-tray checked. | 18:17 |
jussi01 | minimize to tray doesnt work here | 18:17 |
ScottK | minimize-to-try-on-minimize | 18:17 |
jussi01 | just remaximises | 18:18 |
ScottK | Same here. | 18:18 |
ScottK | Sput: close-to-tray works fine. | 18:18 |
jussi01 | ScottK: this is annoying, cant seem to get a screen - the notifications disapear on me. can you hilight me a few times in a row? | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
Sput | ScottK: I can't reproduce :( | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
ScottK | jussi01: Sure. Repeated notifications here we come .... | 18:19 |
nhandler | Riddell: ping | 18:19 |
ScottK | Sorry everyone else. | 18:19 |
ScottK | I hope that was enough. | 18:20 |
ScottK | Sput: What KDE are you running? | 18:20 |
Sput | minimize on minimize, minimize on close, tray icon all work fine | 18:20 |
Sput | 4.2.60 | 18:20 |
Sput | but I couldn't reproduce that issue last time I tried either | 18:20 |
ScottK | Odd. | 18:20 |
Sput | which makes fixing a bitch, obviously... I'd need somebody who can reproduce who is willing to have a look at our code and can debug this | 18:21 |
ScottK | Unfortunately that would not be me. | 18:22 |
ScottK | willing/able | 18:22 |
jussi01 | Sput: I can give you vnc to my machine... | 18:22 |
Sput | jussi01: that might be an option, not right now though (have some other things cooking in my workdir currently) | 18:23 |
ScottK | jussi01: Was that enough notifications? | 18:23 |
Sput | plasma's notifications are broken still, they seem to ignore the "persistant" flag | 18:23 |
jussi01 | ScottK: yeah, ive got it... (though with my other client - stole the wifes lappy fo a min) 1 sec | 18:23 |
ScottK | OK. | 18:24 |
ScottK | jussi01: Did you have to disable focus stealing protection? | 18:24 |
ScottK | One does on 4.1. | 18:24 |
Sput | on 4.2 as well, afaics | 18:24 |
ScottK | OK. | 18:24 |
Sput | KNotification has a flag to raise the window on click, with a TODO: No working yet | 18:25 |
jussi01 | ScottK: I just had another app running next in line (terminal) http://omploader.org/vMTQ5YQ | 18:25 |
* ScottK looks | 18:25 | |
ScottK | jussi01: Looks much better than what I get in 4.1. | 18:26 |
jussi01 | ScottK: yeah, MUCH bettefr :D | 18:26 |
Sput | ah, 4.1 still had those ugly rectangles | 18:26 |
jussi01 | 4.2 does on occaision still | 18:27 |
nixternal | seele: you tweeted to me about "browser stats" being misleading...please explain, because I am quite confused right now...this was from jan. 8 | 18:28 |
ScottK | jussi01: Here's my recursive look at it: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/notify.notify.png | 18:29 |
seele | nixternal: i posted a message on one of your articles and it said i was on XP. i assume that is because i set my user agent to XP so i can view websites which check for Windows | 18:29 |
nixternal | ahhhh | 18:29 |
jussi01 | ScottK: heh... I like the look of my setup much better... ;) | 18:30 |
jussi01 | anyone tried the new network manager plasmoid in the last few days? (updating mine now) | 18:31 |
apachelogger | ScottK: problem is the positioning of the passive popup? | 18:31 |
apachelogger | jussi01: it looks better :P | 18:31 |
jussi01 | apachelogger: usable yet? | 18:32 |
apachelogger | no :P | 18:32 |
apachelogger | not for me anyway | 18:32 |
apachelogger | 2 packages to go | 18:33 |
ScottK | seele: Did you get the updated quassel working OK? | 18:39 |
ScottK | torkiano: I just uploaded the fix for the conflicting packages. | 18:39 |
torkiano | ScottK: downloading... | 18:42 |
ScottK | Given the huge amount of change in the quassel package from 0.3.1 (thanks again apachelogger), if that's the only thin that's bugged in the packaging, I'm pretty pleased. | 18:42 |
ScottK | thin/thing | 18:42 |
torkiano | ScottK: Works fine now, thanks | 18:42 |
ScottK | torkiano: Great. Sorry for the trouble. | 18:42 |
torkiano | I'll try it, see you soon ;-) | 18:43 |
seele | ScottK: sorry.. still going through a pile of emails. as soon as i finish this one i plan on installing .4 | 18:45 |
ScottK | OK. | 18:45 |
seele | sometimes i think i work hard on kde than the job that pays me | 18:45 |
seele | *harder | 18:45 |
Sput | seele: why do I know that feeling :) | 18:45 |
torkiano | mmmm | 18:47 |
torkiano | I believe i found a little bug XD | 18:47 |
torkiano | in help->about quassel | 18:48 |
torkiano | show 0.3 version | 18:48 |
ScottK | torkiano: It's not a 0.4 release yet, just a git snapshot, so it's up to Sput when he wants to change that. | 18:49 |
Sput | yeah, probably gonna take a couple weeks until we release 0.4 proper | 18:49 |
torkiano | ScottK: I know, forget what I said then | 18:50 |
ScottK | But please test and file bugs. | 18:50 |
torkiano | ScottK: ok, but in the quassel tracker or here (they are your packages) | 18:52 |
* Sput wonders if launchpad can relay to redmine | 18:52 | |
ScottK | Sput: I don't think so. If you have a launchpad account it's easy enough to subscribe and get the bugmail. | 18:53 |
ScottK | torkiano: The easy answer is if it's a packaging problem put it in Launchpad and if it's a quasell problem put it in their Redmine. | 18:53 |
ScottK | Of course knowing the difference isn't always easy. | 18:54 |
* Sput will subscribe to launchpad if redmine can't be integrated | 18:54 | |
ScottK | Sput: I'm sure it can't. | 18:54 |
seele | Sput: is there a changelog thusfar? | 18:54 |
nhandler | Is there a better way to setup multiple pbuilders than the way mentioned here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Multiple%20pbuilders | 18:55 |
ScottK | nhandler: You can do it with pbuilder-dist very easily. | 18:55 |
Sput | seele: there is one, but it just contains major features (and I don't think it's quite up to date currently) | 18:56 |
torkiano | ok ScottK, thank you for the information. I'll do the best we can | 18:56 |
nhandler | ScottK: Will that work with k-d-t ? | 18:56 |
Sput | seele: there is git log, of course. | 18:56 |
ScottK | Dunno | 18:57 |
Sput | http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/repositories/revisions/quassel-irc | 18:57 |
ScottK | seele: The current snapshot we have packaged includes the commit from 01/10/2009 06:42 PM, but nothing after. | 18:58 |
seele | ok thanks | 18:59 |
Riddell | nhandler: you pinged? | 18:59 |
apachelogger | nhandler: you can override pbuilder in kdt using the env var $PBUILDER | 18:59 |
apachelogger | nhandler: smarter knows more about that | 18:59 |
* smarter switched to sbuild, pbuilder-dist sucks :p | 19:00 | |
apachelogger | nhandler: also, I prefer to have multiple .pbuilderrcs for different series | 19:00 |
Riddell | apachelogger: to become archive admin you need to hang around on #ubuntu-release and express and interest, I'm not sure what's available through launchpad these days (hobbsee will know), I use the command line but that needs ssh to datacentre so Canonical only | 19:00 |
apachelogger | so ultimately I need to become canonical employee first -.- | 19:01 |
Riddell | apachelogger: I think most stuff is available through launchpad now | 19:01 |
apachelogger | Riddell: do you think they need someone to cleanup canonical tower? ;-) | 19:01 |
nhandler | Riddell: Could you add me to k-u-t | 19:02 |
Riddell | nhandler: updates-testing? | 19:02 |
apachelogger | hm, hold on | 19:02 |
Riddell | nhandler: what's your LP id? | 19:02 |
nhandler | nhandler | 19:02 |
apachelogger | Riddell: we could make -ninjas a member of it? | 19:02 |
* apachelogger thins it would make much more sense to have all ninjas be member of -ninjas and indirect member to all the other teams we have | 19:03 | |
* nhandler likes that idea | 19:03 | |
apachelogger | Riddell: please make ninjas a member of kut | 19:06 |
apachelogger | or make me admin and I make ninjas a member :P | 19:06 |
vorian | ScottK: nixternal, waiting for mysql5.1 to get through new first | 19:07 |
nixternal | groovy | 19:10 |
nhandler | Thanks Riddell | 19:11 |
Riddell | "Kubuntu Ninjas (kubuntu-ninjas) has been invited to join this team. | 19:12 |
Riddell | vorian: mysql 5.1 accepted | 19:14 |
vorian | Riddell: AWESOME! | 19:14 |
vorian | thanks so much | 19:14 |
Riddell | kubuntu-ninjas accepted | 19:14 |
apachelogger | is it me or is rsync borked? | 19:31 |
apachelogger | from the cdimage server | 19:32 |
apachelogger | hm, now it works | 19:33 |
Sput | seele: I think you had the great idea of replacing the giant Quassel logo by some sort of welcome page where users can choose to edit network/identity and/or connect to a (possibly predefined) network | 19:42 |
Sput | seele: Would you like to provide a mock-up (either as .ui or a graphics file) how that could/should look like? | 19:42 |
* ScottK wonders how much more junk mail these team changes will get him. | 19:52 | |
apachelogger | lol | 19:52 |
* ScottK is not kidding. | 19:52 | |
apachelogger | ScottK: you should see what I get at releases | 19:53 |
* ScottK can imagine. | 19:53 | |
* ScottK would really like for the entire concept of merge notifications to just die and go away. | 19:53 | |
* ScottK could really care less if some mozillathingy has a branch that wants merged. | 19:54 | |
apachelogger | I am not sure but I think you can unsubscirbe $team from the branch ;-) | 19:56 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Unfortunately those branches are owned by ubuntu-dev. | 19:56 |
ScottK | So that might not make everyone happy. | 19:57 |
ScottK | They need to disambiguate 'can commit to the branch' from 'cares if it wants merged'. | 19:57 |
apachelogger | *nod* | 19:58 |
apachelogger | ScottK: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/ReleasePackaging | 20:00 |
apachelogger | enough information? | 20:00 |
* ScottK guesses too much before he looks. | 20:00 | |
apachelogger | oi vei | 20:00 |
* apachelogger burns jaunty | 20:02 | |
ScottK | apachelogger: The only thing that leaps out as missing is where/how one gets the correct batrc. | 20:03 |
ScottK | Is that automagic now? | 20:03 |
apachelogger | the idea is that that is private :P | 20:03 |
ScottK | OK. | 20:04 |
ScottK | Fair enough. | 20:04 |
apachelogger | ScottK: you just need to download the .batrc_path which defines where exactly the .batrc lives ... if no .batrc is around the batscritps will try to download one via the url in .batrc_path | 20:04 |
* JontheEchidna tries quassel | 20:54 | |
* JontheEchidna purges config for pure experience | 20:55 | |
JontheEchidna | meh, gotta go | 20:57 |
torkiano | bug 201291 | 21:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 201291 in audacity "Add ogv (video) and oga (audio) as recognized extension for Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis, respectively" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201291 | 21:23 |
torkiano | my ogv video appears without its video icon | 21:24 |
torkiano | is it a bug in kubuntu-default-settings? | 21:25 |
torkiano | I use KDE4.2 4.1.85 | 21:25 |
torkiano | if I change the extension to ogg, I get the correct video icon | 21:27 |
ScottK | kdesvn could really use a merge from Debian Experimental if someone were in the mood. | 23:00 |
ScottK | We're quite behind. | 23:01 |
Nightrose | cheaters (@ amarok screenshot in the 2.0.1.1 news) ;-) | 23:58 |
Nightrose | that is clearly an old beta screenshot | 23:59 |
Nightrose | thx for the story though | 23:59 |
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