[00:02] <bthompson> i found it it was in regional and language
[00:02] <bthompson> anybody know anyway to may the windows key to kmenu
[00:22] <DarkSmoke> hey
[00:22] <DarkSmoke> why doesn't kubuntu shipit ofer you the choice of 64bit and 32bit anymore ? :s
[00:24] <yrjokin> bthompson: don't you need your windows key? For compiz etc
[00:30] <dstambou> the fonts in my amarok-nightly do not match up with my other kde applications (from kde-svn-nightly)
[00:30] <dstambou> any ideas why not?
[01:01] <hidronico> okay so ive extracted the bcmxxx drivers to /lib/firmware after this the alternate driver program or whatever its called does not list any drivers i think the instructions for this fwcutter miss a few steps any suggestions will be much appreciated!
[01:05] <LizardKing> hi, all!
[01:12] <g_> I upgraded to open office 3 and now it won't even load and keeps giving me this annoying error.  Is there anyone here who knows how to remedy this?
[01:17] <amaro> alguem fala portugues?
[01:18] <LizardKing> where should I go to learn about the file directory? what does each folder and subfolder means?
[01:18] <HappySmileMan> !pr
[01:19] <amaro> link for ubuntu br or pt?
[01:20] <amaro> what link for ubuntu br or pt?
[01:20] <HappySmileMan> !pt
[01:20] <HappySmileMan> Never sure what abbreviation for portugal :S
[01:34] <vitae> LizardKing: look for File Hierarchy Standard as a start
[01:36] <LizardKing> where's that?
[01:36] <dr_willis> google for the terms
[01:37] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html   for starters :)
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[01:37] <dr_willis> Definition: FSH: File System Hierarchy (Linux, LSB)
[01:39] <dr_willis> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[01:40] <Adola> Hello.  I know this is not for general discussion.  But can I PLEASE ask a quick survey question?
[01:40] <Adola> Offtopic is dead.
[01:41] <dr_willis> Not a lot of chatter in here either. :)
[01:41] <Adola> I see that..
[01:41] <Adola> Well, can I ask you> :P
[01:42] <dr_willis> Sure why not.. i bet  the answer is going to be 'it depends'
[01:42] <dr_willis> :P
[01:43] <Adola> Ok, thanks!
[01:43] <Adola> Windowsroom is stuffy and wouldn't let me ask.
[01:43] <Adola> Is levelling up charachters in games fun?  Like Final Fantasy and stuff.
[01:43] <dr_willis> Playing games is fun.. leveling up lets you just know your progress..
[01:44] <Adola> So.
[01:44] <Adola> I'm not allowed to ask questions..
[01:44] <Adola> Only..Yes or no?
[01:44] <Adola> I'm sorry for the ambiguity.
[01:44] <dr_willis> This is a Kubuntu Support Channel.  and thus should focus on Kubuntu SUpport questins
[01:45] <dr_willis> theres 10000's of general chatter channels. :)
[01:45] <pteague> typically questions are should i use this or that... or shouldn't this work... or similar... to which the typical answer is "it depends"
[01:45] <pteague> & i have to agree with dr_willis ... play games is the fun part... leveling specifically to level is just a grind
[01:46] <pteague> although some people find that fun
[01:46] <dr_willis> No they dont.. they are just habbitual addicted to the 'positive renforcement' aspect. :)
[01:46] <adz21c> so the answer to that i guess "it depends" on who you are :-
[01:46] <adz21c> :-P*
[01:46] <gerob> Is this the right channel to get a little help installing drivers for a 8600 GT in 8.10?
[01:46] <Adola> Yes, I understand this is a help cahnnel.  I'm here nearly everyday.
[01:47] <pteague> adz21c: lol, exactly =)
[01:47] <dr_willis> ubottu,  is a level 95 helper !
[01:48] <gerob> Can I get help with Ubuntu 8.10 here or should I try another channel?
[01:48] <pteague> gerob: i'm using an 8600gts... i have nvidia-glx-new & nvidia-settings installed
[01:48] <gerob> ok let me try that
[01:48] <dr_willis> gerob,  basicially i just run the  restricte-driver-manager tool - it installs  nvidia-glx-new, i always install nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig manually
[01:49] <andy__> Hello All
[01:49] <gerob> so dont use the Synaptic package manager?
[01:49] <andy__> 10 min ago finish to install Ubantu 64
[01:49] <dr_willis>   restricte-driver-manager tool  should have an icon on th epanel somewhere.. and should of poped up a dialog on first boot also...
[01:50] <OxDeadC0de> hey the level grind can be fun in a game where fighting is half or more of the interaction with the game...
[01:50] <pteague> gerob: i tend to use aptitude out of preference... it's been a while since i used the gui
[01:50] <dr_willis> !find jockey
[01:50] <dr_willis> or run it with 'kdesudo jockey-kde'
[01:50] <dr_willis> :)
[01:50] <pteague> OxDeadC0de: like WoW! ;)
[01:50] <andy__> ...can't run NetworkManager. From shell type "NetworkManager" and press Enter but system show : you must be a root. Im with root previlegi
[01:50] <OxDeadC0de> Exactly, or D2/D3 for the first couple days...
[01:51] <dr_willis> andy__,  try kdesudo networkmanager
[01:51] <dr_willis> and be sure to get the case correct.
[01:51] <gerob> Im pretty new to Linux and Ubuntu
[01:51] <pteague> my preference is actually eve online
[01:51] <dr_willis>  Synaptic package manager installs the same stuff as apt-get, as jockey should..  they all call the same stuff/do the same things in thebackground
[01:52] <OxDeadC0de> eve online is very sexy
[01:52] <dr_willis> Thats a online chat..with some sort of mineral mining game in the background right?
[01:52] <dr_willis> :P
[01:52] <andy__> dr_willis, just do it - no any result. Just second shell line without any message
[01:52] <gerob> dr_willis: yah thats what I thought
[01:52] <OxDeadC0de> lol, it's a space flight sim game
[01:52] <dr_willis> andy__,  as far as i knwo network manager just puts a little ocon on the panel somewhere.
[01:53] <pteague> dr_willis: apparently you've not enjoyed pvp ;)
[01:53] <OxDeadC0de> mmo space flight sim at that
[01:53] <dr_willis> pteague,  the term 'enjoy' and 'pvp' are 2 words that i rarely see together.
[01:53] <pteague> lol
[01:53] <OxDeadC0de> haha I love pvp too in games
[01:53] <dr_willis> now *(#*!&*@ and pvp = all the time.
[01:53] <OxDeadC0de> after I finish killing all the stupid little mobiles, I want a challange.. real people offer the best ;)
[01:54] <andy__> yes... but not running :(
[01:55] <andy__> when I reboot I will need configure internet manually again :( like sudo infconfig eth  netmask   broadcast etc etc:(
[01:56] <andy__> ...also when I open file with movie ( .avi) dragon program run (video player) but no voice and screen :(
[01:57] <dr_willis> that sounds like a codec issue. Install the w32codecs from medibuntu repository. and perhaps try some other media players like vlc, and gmplayer
[01:58] <andy__> let me try...
[02:03] <SuspectZero> hey there. i just installed a lilo and i tried booting into my kubuntu partition but i get a kernal panic saying "unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,7)". i tried adding "init=/sbin/init" into the lilo config but init was an unrecognized token. can someone help me please?
[02:03] <dr_willis> Why are you even using lilo?
[02:04] <SuspectZero> cause when i try to install grub through chroot, the grub-install command doesnt work
[02:05] <torkiano> hello, I have a little problem with my Kubuntu with KDE 4.2: the trash apple no show the elements in it
[02:06] <dr_willis> I imagine the same reason grub isent working when chrooted.. is also the reason lilo isent working right..    grub can be annoying to troubble shoot. but its well documented.. LILO is just.. old and  very much  more problematic in some ways
[02:06] <torkiano> see: http://imagebin.ca/view/Us-dl8.html
[02:07] <torkiano> Anyone have this problem too?
[02:08] <SuspectZero> dr_willis well heres the situation. im in a different distro and i load up bash and i type "chroot /dev/sda6 (the kubuntu partition) /bin/bash" then i type "grub-install /dev/sda". but i think its cause the sda's arent even loaded that it doesnt allow it
[02:08] <dr_willis> You must set up /dev/ and /proc/ properly i do recall
[02:08] <dr_willis> or else grub-install  from the chrooted enviroment will not be able tio see the proper dev entries
[02:09] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[02:09] <LizardKing> so..... /usr/sbin is the equivalent of Program Files?
[02:09] <dr_willis> or you could run the grub command line tool. and  reinstall grub from it
[02:09] <dr_willis> LizardKing,  just 'barely'
[02:10] <dr_willis> 'bin' and 'sbin' where most exeutable binaries live
[02:10] <SuspectZero> thts exactly whats happening in which its not able to see the proper dev entries
[02:10] <LizardKing> both under the root directory?
[02:10] <SuspectZero> i'll check out those links. thanks
[02:10] <dr_willis>  eerything is under the root directory. :) thats why its the root directory
[02:11] <dr_willis>  there  /sbin and /bin and /usr/sbin and /usr/bin i imagine also
[02:11] <LizardKing> heh, I mean /directly/ under it.....
[02:11] <dr_willis>  /bin gives the full path to the location
[02:11] <dr_willis>  so yes its under / :)
[02:12] <dr_willis>  /usr/bin  is in usr
[02:12] <LizardKing> so ultimately, if I want to copy the command for a program to access my browser, I'd have to tell it something like /bin/<browser folder>?
[02:13] <dr_willis> try 'which firefox'
[02:13] <dr_willis>  which firefox
[02:13] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/firefox
[02:13] <dr_willis> ta-da :)
[02:14] <LizardKing> what's 'which'?
[02:14] <dr_willis> a command.
[02:14] <dr_willis> man wich
[02:14] <dr_willis> man which
[02:14] <dr_willis> to learn more
[02:14] <Orbjinzo> also known as sloppy joes
[02:14] <Orbjinzo> sorry hehe
[02:16] <LizardKing> it's not returning anything....
[02:17] <vitae> it will only return something if firefox is installed
[02:17] <LizardKing> it is
[02:20]  * dr_willis woudl guess a typo then
[02:22] <Orbjinzo> isnt firefox installed with all ubuntu based distros?
[02:22] <darkdelusions> Yes
[02:22] <LizardKing> so..... "which firefox" isn't spelled right?
[02:23] <darkdelusions> Its not installed with Kubuntu by default
[02:23] <Orbjinzo> hrm
[02:23] <Orbjinzo> i never noticed.
[02:23] <Orbjinzo> heh
[02:23] <darkdelusions> apt-get install firefox
[02:24]  * Orbjinzo already has firefox installed
[02:24] <dr_willis> type 'firefox' then and see
[02:24] <LizardKing> ok, something on my system is messed up
[02:25]  * dr_willis agrees
[02:25] <LizardKing> I KNOW Firefox is on here, I'm using right this very moment...... but it's telling me that it isn't
[02:25] <dr_willis> i would guess your PATH is some how changed.. try it in a new terminal window
[02:26] <LizardKing> same result
[02:26] <Orbjinzo> which firefox
[02:26] <LizardKing> 2.0.0.17
[02:26] <mitchell> hello
[02:27] <Orbjinzo> hello
[02:27] <darkdelusions> mitchell: hello
[02:27] <mitchell> please help
[02:27] <Orbjinzo> whats the problem?
[02:27] <mitchell> how can I start an application maximized in kde 4
[02:27] <mitchell> for example dolphin
[02:28] <Orbjinzo> if i remember KDE saves that setting
[02:28] <mitchell> not kde 4
[02:28] <mitchell> im with kde4 and ubuntu 8.10
[02:29] <mitchell> everytime i start dolphin i have to maximize that window
[02:29] <mitchell> and every app
[02:29] <mitchell> it's annoying
[02:29] <dr_willis> used to be a kde support called 'kstart'  that could do that..
[02:30] <mitchell> mmm
[02:30] <dr_willis> i also saw the netbook remix - had a tool called 'maximus' that forced EVERY app to me maxamized. but it may be gnome only
[02:30] <mitchell> does kde4 has that app?
[02:30] <mitchell> mm
[02:31] <Orbjinzo> im also reading that it might be a kde bug to
[02:31] <Orbjinzo> http://forum.kde.org/printthread.php?tid=17037
[02:31] <mitchell> i was thinking it could have something to do with the instruction that executes the program in the icon
[02:32] <Orbjinzo> i doubt it.
[02:32] <mitchell> for example, i put some icons in the panel of kde 4 for launching the app faster
[02:32] <mitchell> when i need it
[02:33] <Orbjinzo> you can look at whats its executing but i doubt its a flags problem
[02:33] <mitchell> mmm
[02:33] <mitchell> i also saw in system preferences
[02:34] <mitchell> in windows behavior
[02:34] <Orbjinzo> im just looking at what im reading from searching with google.
[02:34] <mitchell> sorry if i get wrong with the exact translation because in fact i speak spanish
[02:35] <Orbjinzo> theres a spanish channel if you need a native speaking person.
[02:35] <mitchell> yeah... ive been looking for some help in google all the afternoon
[02:35] <mitchell> no
[02:35] <Orbjinzo> ! mitchell spanish
[02:35] <mitchell> at all
[02:35] <Orbjinzo> !spanish
[02:35] <patches_> Hi ..........................
[02:36] <Orbjinzo> i assumed you prolly tried that though.
[02:36] <darkdelusions> .....
[02:36] <dr_willis> ...---...
[02:36] <Orbjinzo> ......
[02:36] <Orbjinzo> .-....__...---
[02:36] <mitchell> well im trying right now
[02:36] <Orbjinzo> this is now the morse code channel
[02:37] <uga> Orbjinzo: you should know there's only two symbols in morse, not 3 =)
[02:37] <Orbjinzo> haha
[02:37] <mitchell> haha
[02:38] <Orbjinzo> cant blame a man for trying eh?
[02:38] <patches_> haha
[02:38] <darkdelusions> its a new form of morse code :)
[02:38] <dr_willis> Trinary COmputers...
[02:38] <patches_> a more verbose morse?
[02:38] <dr_willis> ya got +1 ,0, and -1
[02:38] <Orbjinzo> yes
[02:38] <dr_willis> MorseCode2.0
[02:38] <mitchell> hahaha
[02:38] <Orbjinzo> alpha
[02:39] <mitchell> RC1
[02:39]  * LizardKing thinks trinary computers would be so much better
[02:39] <Orbjinzo> on off and ?
[02:39] <Orbjinzo> no so on
[02:39] <Orbjinzo> not*
[02:40] <LizardKing> on 1, on 2, and off
[02:40] <Orbjinzo> whats 2 though?
[02:40] <LizardKing> another switch
[02:40] <Orbjinzo> works for me heh
[02:41] <LizardKing> kinda like multi-setting lamps..... there's off, dim, and bright
[02:41] <Orbjinzo> hrm
[02:41] <Orbjinzo> that would really awesome
[02:42] <Orbjinzo> like run at 1/2 power
[02:42] <LizardKing> well, kinda
[02:42] <mitchell> hey,  it seems nobody in the spanish channel knows the answer to my question
[02:42] <LizardKing> more like another channel for on
[02:42] <mitchell> there isn't so much people anyway
[02:43] <Orbjinzo> can also try the main kde channel to
[02:43] <Orbjinzo> #kde
[02:44] <LizardKing> on 1 would be the bit in the / position, on 2 would be in the \ position, and off would be |
[02:44] <Orbjinzo> that just reminds me of my fan.
[02:44] <asobi> why can't konqueror search partial file names????????????????
[02:44] <Orbjinzo> low med high
[02:44] <Orbjinzo> have you tried a wildcard char like *?
[02:46] <asobi> yes
[02:46] <patches_> casa1?!?
[02:47] <LizardKing> the way I imagine binary computers working is a small switch, where on (the - position) carries a charge from one end to another, but of (the | position) doesn't connect the two ends, so it can't carry the charge
[02:47] <patches_> erica!!!!!
[02:47] <asobi> this is very stupid. who would build default search so you have to search for_the_exact_file_name_no_matter_how_long_or_complex
[02:48] <Orbjinzo> *shrug*
[02:48] <LizardKing> if there's *four* ends-- say top left to bottom right, and bottom left to top right-- then the switch can be from on 1 (\), to on 2 (/), to off (|)
[02:49] <Orbjinzo> ok
[02:49] <LizardKing> make sense?
[02:49] <Orbjinzo> yes
[02:49] <darkdelusions> call me crazy but I normally used find in a termal to find what i am looking for
[02:50]  * Orbjinzo thinks darkdelusions is crazy
[02:50]  * darkdelusions knows he is crazy
[02:50] <slimeball> It seems like anything networky doesn't redraw or whatever unless I move my mouse. If I'm sshed into my file server, I don't see anything from my inputs unless I move the mouse. If I'm loading a web page, it doesn't show it's loading until I move the mouse. Apt doesn't look like it's doing anything unless I'm moving the mouse. Any ideas?
[02:50] <patches_> okay.
[02:51] <patches_> keep moving the mouse!!!!
[02:51] <slimeball> My wrist gets tired!
[02:51] <patches_> aaaaahhhh....
[02:51] <uga> slimeball: could it be that the screen doesn't refresh unless you move the mouse?
[02:52] <judgen> Is it possible to use kde3 in intrepid?
[02:52] <uga> slimeball: does the clock change if you don't move it?
[02:52] <patches_> too much of it and tou may go blind
[02:52] <uga> judgen: if you build it yourself
[02:52] <darkdelusions> judgen: if you wanna jump threw 1000 firey hoops of hell yes
[02:52] <slimeball> uga, if I click a dir on my hard drive in konqueror, it goes without mouse movement.
[02:52] <slimeball> But if I click a dir on my file server... it doesn't load unless I move the mouse.
[02:52] <judgen> darkdelusions ill just stay with hardy then.
[02:53] <uga> slimeball: click == mouse move
[02:53] <uga> =)
[02:53] <darkdelusions> judgen: start using kde4 its the future :) I didnt like it at first but it keeps getting better
[02:53] <Orbjinzo> acutally im on 8.10 and use kde3
[02:53] <slimeball> Clock moves
[02:53] <Orbjinzo> right...
[02:53] <Orbjinzo> thats what they said about os/2
[02:53] <darkdelusions> rofl
[02:53] <Orbjinzo> and look where os/2 is today
[02:54] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo: hey now there like 10 people out there still using it :)
[02:55] <Orbjinzo> heh i have a copy of ecomstation
[02:55] <Orbjinzo> its quite nice
[02:55] <Orbjinzo> ecomstation is the new os/2
[02:55] <LizardKing> is there some way to set the clock to 12 hours?
[02:55] <KWGoD> hey i got an icon that i can´t click and it won´t go away
[02:55] <darkdelusions> I worked for a market research firm that was still using OS/2
[02:56] <darkdelusions> I was like oh god
[02:56] <KWGoD> yes?
[02:56] <darkdelusions> rofl
[02:56] <KWGoD> icon...wont go away
[02:57] <KWGoD> help?
[02:57] <KWGoD> mabe?
[02:57] <KWGoD> ?
[02:57] <darkdelusions> Where is it located
[02:57] <KWGoD> bottome left corner above toolbar
[02:57] <KWGoD> its just a random folder
[02:58] <KWGoD> and i´ve got OCD
[02:58] <KWGoD> i cant move it and it wont go away
[02:58] <uga> LizardKing: yes, under system settings, region and language, and choose time & dates
[02:58] <uga> you can specify the time format there
[02:59] <Orbjinzo> you can try opening konsole and navigating to the desktop and using the command rmdir foldername
[02:59] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo: You beat me to it :)
[03:00] <LizardKing> hm, I can't find firefox manually, either......
[03:00] <Orbjinzo> hehe
[03:00] <darkdelusions> LizardKing:  when u did a which earlier did it come up with anything?
[03:01] <LizardKing> not a thing
[03:02] <pteague> is there a way to modify the title on wine windows?
[03:02] <Orbjinzo> you could try removing firefox and reinstalling it
[03:02] <Orbjinzo> pteague: as far as i know no.
[03:02] <darkdelusions> LizardKing: did u install it threw apt?
[03:04] <mason_> This may be an extraordinarily stupid thing to ask, but I'm new to Kubuntu and I'm wondering if there's anything in specific I should do, just as essentials or anything.
[03:05] <Orbjinzo> thats a open ended question mason
[03:05] <Orbjinzo> what do you need in detail?
[03:05] <Orbjinzo> !mp3
[03:05] <Orbjinzo> or !wine
[03:05] <Orbjinzo> !wine
[03:06] <borg-queen_> i am trying to install kubuntu and the installation seems to go through correctly but when it tries to boot into the system i get "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/77944048-0d30-486d-856f-8da948837dd6 does not exist. dropping to shell"
[03:06] <mason_> So... I should get Wine, any drivers or anything that I need?
[03:06] <Orbjinzo> whats your setup?
[03:06] <KWGoD> nah my friend was a royal dick and changed the wallpaper when he came over while i was gone
[03:06] <Orbjinzo> system spec wise.
[03:07] <LizardKing> it's apparently /usr/bin/firefox-2
[03:07] <KWGoD> thanks though
[03:07] <mason_> Well
[03:07] <mason_> Old computer
[03:07] <Orbjinzo> about the only other thing i would say is if you have ati or an nvidia video card.
[03:07] <mason_> What do you need exactly...? I'm a really big newb to general computers. I've been trying to get into it, and I'm still learning.
[03:07] <LizardKing> except for, now that I added firefox-2 to the browser command, the MUD client opens up an instance of the browser, but not the page I'm trying to get to....
[03:08] <mason_> I have an nvidia video card
[03:08] <Orbjinzo> well youll prolly want install your video drivers
[03:08] <Orbjinzo> !nvidia
[03:08] <borg-queen_> Orbjinzo: it is a xfx nforce 750a motherboard. 4GB DDR2 2AMD A64 X2 7750 and a 500 GB Western Digital Sata hard drive
[03:09] <OxDeadC0de> ten mason_ if you're really new your best help will always be google.com , don't be afraid to look things up to find out what they mean, and there will be terms you have to lookup to find out what the explaination of foo means... and you'll be fine
[03:10] <Orbjinzo> oxdead speaks truth
[03:10] <OxDeadC0de> mason_ also, software isn't scary or voodoo, if you have picked up logic in your life "if this then do that" you'll be able to understand them
[03:10] <OxDeadC0de> or while this do that
[03:11] <mason_> Hmm
[03:11] <mason_> Okay
[03:11] <adreignss> hello
[03:11] <mason_> But I must ask, is there anywhere were I can find apt-get install commands in a large list or anything?
[03:12] <adreignss> ok imhaving a problem with  pulseaudio using a dell ptiplex
[03:12] <OxDeadC0de> mason_ what do you mean? if you want to find a package to install, aptitude search mp3; then you can do sudo apt-get install package-name (like rhythmbox or something)
[03:12] <adreignss> gx1
[03:12] <adreignss> im slow typing
[03:12] <Orbjinzo> borgqueen
[03:12] <Orbjinzo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=987243
[03:12] <darkdelusions> mason_:  When I frist started I used Ubuntuguide.com it has must of the commin wanted programs on it
[03:12] <adreignss> with this snd card
[03:13] <mason_> Okay
[03:13] <mason_> Thanks
[03:13] <borg-queen_> Orbjinzo: thank you trying now
[03:14] <adreignss> need some help withpulseaudio using dell optiplex gx1 with snd-cs4236
[03:15] <darkdelusions> !question
[03:15] <adreignss> pulseaudio is working but no sound fromspeakers
[03:15] <adreignss> in 8.04 i couldjust add snd card to ect/modules
[03:15] <Orbjinzo> you could try removing it.
[03:15] <darkdelusions> adreignss: did u try turning you sound up in the mixer?
[03:16] <adreignss> yesi did
[03:16] <Orbjinzo> is your card enabled
[03:16] <Orbjinzo> in alsamixer?
[03:16] <adreignss> i dont think so
[03:16] <adreignss> i dontknow how
[03:17] <adreignss> pulseaudiois working when i playmusic and lookat the volume meter
[03:17] <adreignss> it moves but no sound fromspeakers
[03:18] <mason_> Hmm
[03:18] <Orbjinzo> try killing the pulseaudio process
[03:19] <adreignss> r u familiar with crystalsoundcards
[03:19] <Orbjinzo> no
[03:19] <Orbjinzo> im just doing what i would first,.
[03:19] <mason_> Is there a way to make my taskbar go back to   default...? I hit remove something on accident on the bottom and I don't know how to add it back xD
[03:19] <mason_> I got rid of the thing that lets me see open applications
[03:20] <adreignss> whenn i killpulseaudio i have to figure out how to make my sound still work bcauseof the snd card
[03:20] <mason_> (goot it...
[03:20] <mason_> I fail xD
[03:20] <mason_> )
[03:20] <adreignss> i did work in 8.04
[03:20] <adreignss> it
[03:21] <adreignss> and8.04 didnt have pulseaudio
[03:23] <adreignss> does any1 know how to set this sound card with pulseaudioor something.
[03:23] <Orbjinzo> ...
[03:23] <adreignss> snd-cs4236
[03:23] <Orbjinzo> !pulseaudi
[03:23] <Orbjinzo> !pulseaudio
[03:23] <adreignss> it never talks about dell computers
[03:24] <Orbjinzo> ... does it matter
[03:24] <adreignss> ye
[03:24] <Orbjinzo> you didnt have pulse audio in 8.03
[03:24] <adreignss> yes
[03:24] <adreignss> but i got it now
[03:24] <Orbjinzo> why dont you disable it?
[03:24] <Orbjinzo> alsa would take over
[03:24] <pidus> i no longer see the services option (to start/stop services) in setting in kubuntu 8.10 it was easily visible in system preferences..does anybody know about it?
[03:24] <adreignss> will it
[03:25] <darkdelusions> Humm I been looking at google and haven't been able to find anything for the Dell sound issue
[03:25] <adreignss> that sucks
[03:26] <Orbjinzo> i would just try first killing pulseaudio in the processes
[03:26] <Orbjinzo> and see if that doesnt fix it.
[03:26] <Orbjinzo> you might have to set what programs you use to use alsa as sound.
[03:27] <adreignss> and change everything to alsa
[03:27] <adreignss> oh mannn
[03:27] <adreignss> soo complicated
[03:28] <darkdelusions> I am wondering if killing pluse would fix my annoying headset issue
[03:29] <Orbjinzo> Me i totally removed it and havent looked back since.
[03:29] <Orbjinzo> is it a usb headset?
[03:29] <darkdelusions> if I have my headset plugged in it plays threw both Speakers and headset
[03:29] <darkdelusions> na
[03:30] <Orbjinzo> ah
[03:30] <Orbjinzo> my headset works great
[03:30] <Orbjinzo> took me a while get the mic to work right...
[03:31] <darkdelusions> my mic works great
[03:31] <Orbjinzo> ah
[03:31] <Orbjinzo> well for some reason my hda intel sound card didnt wanna play nice
[03:31] <darkdelusions> I got an HDA intel
[03:32] <Orbjinzo> i played with the mux settings
[03:32] <Orbjinzo> and it worked
[03:32] <pidus> where can i see non kde services in kubuntu 8.10?..i only see the kde services manager in system settings
[03:32] <darkdelusions> its kinda annoying because I can be listening to music or talking on vent without it playing threw the speakers
[03:33] <Orbjinzo> i wonder
[03:33] <erica647> Can anyone tell me how to get the alsa wrapper working in Kubuntu?  I just installed it
[03:33] <Orbjinzo> you got vent to work without the window focused?
[03:33] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo:  only if i am in another wine based app
[03:33] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo: like wow
[03:33] <Orbjinzo> ya
[03:33] <Orbjinzo> thats what i do.
[03:34] <darkdelusions> I really wish they would get off there ass and write a linux client
[03:34] <Kovert> why is everything greyed out in the Samba - KDE Control Module?
[03:34] <Orbjinzo> and erica647 you just add alsa-oss to the command you use.
[03:34] <darkdelusions> I wonder
[03:34] <darkdelusions> brbb
[03:34] <erica647> I tried prefixing with aoss but it doesn't seem to work
[03:35] <Orbjinzo> what are you trying to run first place
[03:35] <adreignss> how could  i just use oss
[03:35] <erica647> In ventrilo, it still doesn't see it
[03:35] <adreignss> oss
[03:35] <Orbjinzo> aoss wine "C:\Program Files\Ventrilo\Ventrilo.exe"
[03:35] <erica647> yeah that's what I'm trying
[03:35] <Kovert> >wants to wine about samba
[03:36] <erica647> I'm obviously missing something
[03:36] <darkdelusions> Humm Just set amarok to alsa
[03:36] <darkdelusions> and It still did it damn
[03:36] <Orbjinzo> does vent actually run when you type the command?
[03:37] <erica647> yes
[03:37] <Orbjinzo> then it should be on
[03:37] <Orbjinzo> i just did it and vent ran for me
[03:37] <erica647> but shouldn't 'the device be listed as alsa wrapper or something
[03:37] <borg-queen_> Orbjinzo: ok i tried the "rootdelay=130"and I got the same error and I also tried to look up my uuid for my disk by "cat /dev/disk/by-uuid/" and I got "No such file or directory"
[03:37] <Orbjinzo> then i have no clue borg-queen_
[03:37] <Orbjinzo> sorry :(
[03:38] <Orbjinzo> no erica
[03:38] <borg-queen_> Orbjinzo: I am still looking... this sucks because I just want to boot up
[03:39] <erica647> When I open vent, I get a msg said Failed to open input device
[03:39] <Orbjinzo> are you using a usb headset?
[03:39] <erica647> no
[03:39] <erica647> just a standard mic
[03:39] <Orbjinzo> hit up console
[03:39] <Orbjinzo> and type alsamixer
[03:39] <Orbjinzo> er konsole
[03:40] <erica647> ok I'm there
[03:40] <Orbjinzo> hit tab to capture
[03:40] <Orbjinzo> whats shown there
[03:40] <erica647> It's in red and there's no volume
[03:41] <erica647> there's also 2 capture bars
[03:41] <Orbjinzo> alright
[03:41] <Orbjinzo> using your arrow keys
[03:41] <Orbjinzo> hit up the first one
[03:41] <Orbjinzo> and press spac
[03:41] <Orbjinzo> and hit up on the arrow key
[03:42] <Orbjinzo> this should have linux open it
[03:42] <erica647> ok I moved the bars up
[03:42] <Orbjinzo> youll see like L CAPTUR R
[03:42] <Kovert> bind4
[03:42] <erica647> do I do that on both?
[03:42] <Orbjinzo> should only be one
[03:43] <erica647> I see 2 capture bars
[03:43] <Orbjinzo> first one is normally for the back port and the other one is for front
[03:43] <Orbjinzo> ya i know
[03:43] <Orbjinzo> i have 3
[03:43] <erica647> so do I need to raise them both?
[03:43] <Orbjinzo> im saying location on the computer itself
[03:43] <Orbjinzo> nah only one
[03:43] <Orbjinzo> youll have to play to find out which one
[03:43] <erica647> ok
[03:44] <erica647> grrr... I raised them both and I still get the error
[03:44] <Orbjinzo> ok
[03:45] <Orbjinzo> whats the chip: say?
[03:45] <Orbjinzo> in alsa mixer
[03:45] <erica647> Realtek ALC888
[03:45] <erica647> that's correct
[03:47] <Orbjinzo> question do you have an nvidia chipset in your motherboard?
[03:47] <erica647> yes
[03:47] <Orbjinzo> nforce right?
[03:47] <erica647> I had this working with Ubuntu
[03:47] <erica647> yes
[03:48] <Orbjinzo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=674437
[03:49] <Orbjinzo> you might have to reinstall your chip drivers
[03:49] <erica647> ok thanks Orbjinzo
[03:49] <Orbjinzo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=676032
[03:49] <erica647> I didn't realize that KDE was so different from gnome  lol
[03:50] <Orbjinzo> this post might help you some to
[03:50] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo: now you got me started on this damn sound issue :) good job now I am not gonna stop till i fix it :)
[03:50] <Orbjinzo> it shouldnt be unless you did the upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10
[03:50] <Orbjinzo> er kubuntu 8.10
[03:50] <erica647> no I did a clean install
[03:51] <Orbjinzo> prolly a chipset driver issue.
[03:51] <erica647> both 8.10... works great out of the box with Ubuntu
[03:51] <ctw> Hi! Ever since upgrading from hardy to intrepid (with the KDE 4.2 beta 2) I don't have access to the web shortcuts with Alt+F2 (I can run commands with Alt+F2, but if I try to type something like "gg: search terms" it doesn't work (web shortcuts are enabled and they work if I put them directly into the Konqueror search bar)
[03:51] <ctw> Any ideas?
[03:51] <Orbjinzo> im trying
[03:51] <Orbjinzo> haha dark good luck with that
[03:51] <ctw> It works fine on my other machine on which I have a fresh install (i.e., not an upgrade from hardy)
[03:51] <Orbjinzo> youll go bald!
[03:51] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo: Probally
[03:51] <darkdelusions> cause I cant find anything on it
[03:51] <Orbjinzo> hey
[03:52] <Orbjinzo> you can have carwax now
[03:52] <Orbjinzo> shiny head
[03:52] <darkdelusions> rofl
[03:53] <darkdelusions> and google.com/linux is almost useless anymore
[03:53] <darkdelusions> I keep getting Windows junk
[03:53] <Orbjinzo> haha
[03:53] <Orbjinzo> i never even knew that existed
[03:54] <darkdelusions> hehe
[03:54] <darkdelusions> it used to be a good way to cut threw the crap
[03:54] <Orbjinzo> http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
[03:54] <Orbjinzo> this was my favorite though
[03:55] <Orbjinzo> meh i just learned google the hard way
[03:57] <darkdelusions> I should go ask in the ubuntu channel to see if anyone has any idea but that channel scares the crap outta me
[03:57] <Orbjinzo> heh im in now
[03:57] <Orbjinzo> hard to read
[03:57] <darkdelusions> Ya I am idle in it
[03:58] <darkdelusions> everynow and then i will throw my cheap 2 cents in
[03:58] <darkdelusions> but I have such a hard time reading it
[04:00] <darkdelusions> ok I braved the channel
[04:00] <Orbjinzo> you have more gusto then I
[04:00] <Orbjinzo> hehe
[04:04] <darkdelusions> odd
[04:05] <darkdelusions> if I choose mute headset
[04:05] <darkdelusions> it mutes the headset
[04:05] <darkdelusions> but I i choose mute speakers it laughs at me
[04:05] <Orbjinzo> amazing
[04:05] <Orbjinzo> haha
[04:05] <darkdelusions> its like ya you wanted to do what... uhhh no
[04:06] <Orbjinzo> screw with your mind?
[04:06] <darkdelusions> Pretty much
[04:06] <darkdelusions> my laptop is evil
[04:06] <darkdelusions> like that
[04:07] <Orbjinzo> heh i got a laptop on order now
[04:07] <Orbjinzo> im deciding if i wanna install linux on it
[04:07] <darkdelusions> epic answer
[04:07] <darkdelusions> [22:02] <KingOfDos> darkdelusions: try to add other sources in the mixer
[04:08] <KingOfDos> did that work? :)
[04:09] <Orbjinzo> haha
[04:09] <Orbjinzo> you have a stalker now man
[04:09] <darkdelusions> nope
[04:09] <Orbjinzo> i feel sorry for you
[04:09] <Orbjinzo> :P
[04:09] <darkdelusions> rofl
[04:09] <darkdelusions> KingOfDos: for the life of me i can figure it out
[04:09] <darkdelusions> KingOfDos: its driving me INSANE
[04:10] <KingOfDos> KingOfInsane :D
[04:10] <darkdelusions> its like the mixer only see 1 input
[04:11] <darkdelusions> Stupid HDA intel of evilness
[04:11] <KingOfDos> did you install pulse?
[04:11] <darkdelusions> unless pulse is installed by default and I didnt realize it no
[04:11] <KingOfDos> it's not default indeed
[04:13] <torkiano> hello, are there some plasma applet to use the translation service from Google?
[04:14] <darkdelusions> torkiano: I would look on kdelook.org
[04:15] <torkiano> thank you darkdelusions
[04:15] <darkdelusions> torkiano: errr
[04:15] <darkdelusions> torkiano: kde-look.org
[04:15] <booleancat> Any reason the default konsole profile is so low contrast?
[04:16] <booleancat> in 4.2betawhatev
[04:19] <hatoyu>  libQtGui.so.4 undefined reference to `QCoreApplicationPrivate::checkReceiverThread(QObject*)
[04:19] <hatoyu> When I make kdevelop 4
[04:19] <hatoyu> kubuntu-nighty
[04:25] <darkdelusions> booleancat: you can change the konsole color
[04:25] <torkiano> darkdelusions: I haven't find anything :-( I search for some plasma applet that works similar to pastebin applet
[04:25] <darkdelusions> torkiano: the only other i could suggest would be to google it
[04:25] <darkdelusions> there may not be one
[04:27] <darkdelusions> torkiano: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Translate!+(multi-language)?content=54177
[04:27] <rdb> hola
[04:27] <rdb> a todos
[04:29] <booleancat> darkdelusions: I know, I just think that the default (while usable) is too low con
[04:29] <booleancat> trast
[04:30] <darkdelusions> Evil sound card of doom
[04:31] <Orbjinzo> haha
[04:31] <Orbjinzo> keep going
[04:31] <Orbjinzo> :P
[04:32] <booleancat> \away somewhere, doing something
[04:32] <torkiano> darkdelusions: thank you! but it is for karamba... (kde3)
[04:32]  * booleancat grumbles
[04:33] <Orbjinzo> aye karamba
[04:33] <Orbjinzo> hehe
[04:39] <darkdelusions> torkiano: Sorry I didn't even look ;)
[04:39] <darkdelusions> I blame Orbjinzo
[04:40] <Orbjinzo> hey...
[04:41] <Orbjinzo> you did it to yourself
[04:41] <darkdelusions> Orbjinzo: so I found this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4263007#post4263007 but I have no clue what card is in here :)
[04:41] <darkdelusions> its not in the list :)
[04:42] <Orbjinzo> heh
[04:43] <Orbjinzo> do you feel better blaming me?>
[04:43] <darkdelusions> Ya :)
[04:44] <Orbjinzo> fine then
[04:45] <darkdelusions> rofl
[04:47] <Orbjinzo> :P
[04:49] <darkdelusions> Well that was an epic fail
[04:49] <Adola> I've got KDE 4.1.  How do I get 4.2?
[04:49] <darkdelusions> !kde4.2
[04:49] <darkdelusions> its in the topic :)
[04:49] <Adola> Is there any upgrade button?
[04:49] <torkiano> Adola: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[04:50] <dr_willis> we dont need no steeenking buttons! :)
[04:51] <Orbjinzo> no we need many buttons that do nothing
[04:51] <dr_willis> I did have some odd quirks/issues when i upgraded to kde4.2 so be warey
[04:51] <dr_willis> i had to manually remove some packages.. upgrade. then reinstall them
[04:51] <dr_willis> nothing major.. just a bother
[04:51] <dr_willis> BUt that may be fixed by now
[04:52] <Orbjinzo> did your computer giver you the error: Install windows?
[04:52] <Orbjinzo> lol
[04:52] <dr_willis> actually ive been fighting with windows all day.. XP and Vista Machine cant see each others shares.. bit they both can see the Linux FIleserver shares...
[04:52] <Orbjinzo> yay WoW cue
[04:52] <dr_willis> file server can see both xp and vista machine shares...
[04:53] <Orbjinzo> heh
[04:53] <darkdelusions> this is the error i get when i installed windows 7
[04:53] <darkdelusions> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png
[04:53] <Orbjinzo> lol
[04:54] <Orbjinzo> that needs to be bill gates
[04:54] <Orbjinzo> instead of hitler
[05:02] <spawn57> hi, can you guys tell me what services are needed (e.g. portmap, nfs-common) on boot to be able to mount nfs partitions on boot?
[05:07] <dr_willis> !nfs
[05:07] <dr_willis> that url will tell ya spawn57  :)
[05:08] <spawn57> thanks dr_willis
[05:11] <thomas__> how can I reset my pannel and plasma widgets to orignal defaults?
[05:14] <dr_willis> you can reset all kde settings by removing the proper files from .kde/   but be carefull :)
[05:17] <thomas__> This works too... 'kquitapp plasma; rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma',   Thanks for the tip tho.
[05:25] <dr_willis>  removing the proper files from .kde
[05:25] <dr_willis> was what you did. :)
[05:38] <ctux> hi
[05:40] <dr_willis> hi
[05:41] <LizardKing> I forget if I installed Kildclient, or if it came default with Kubuntu....
[05:45] <El_Boss> hola gente
[05:45] <El_Boss> se me lee?
[05:49] <p_quarles> !es | El_Boss
[05:49] <El_Boss> ah, ok, thatś right
[05:50] <El_Boss> but I speak good enough english too, so thats why i have both channels in my favourites
[06:07] <Adola> Hi, I just updated to KDE 4.2.  I can't get Kopete to open.  It says "Qsql Query :: prepare : database not open"
[06:07] <maxmahem__> !samba
[06:16] <BrianH> howdy
[06:16] <Adola> Hello.
[06:17] <Adola> Can anyone please help?
[06:17] <BrianH> with?
[06:17] <Adola> I just upgraded 4.2
[06:17] <Adola> And, Kopete won't work
[06:17] <BrianH> I thought it was still beta
[06:18] <BrianH> KDE 4.2?
[06:18] <maxmahem__> 4.2 is still beta, but I'm not having any problems with Kopete over here.
[06:18] <Adola> Yes.
[06:18] <maxmahem__> Well other than it doesn't like my webcam.
[06:18] <Adola> QSqlQuery::prepare: database not open
[06:18] <p_quarles> It sounds like an Akonadi problem
[06:18] <Adola> Is the error I get when I run Kopete
[06:19] <Adola> HJow do I fix that?
[06:19] <BrianH> anyone here have experience running Kubuntu from a USB drive through Qemu?
[06:20] <BrianH> I created a CD that has grub installed that forces a system to boot from the USB thumbdrive, and it all works nicely on an actual PC
[06:21] <maxmahem__> I had a couple problems with Akonadi after upgrading. I never did resolve them, after a couple restarts of X they kind of resolved themselves.
[06:21] <BrianH> but the PC I'm using is pretty slow, so I tried to run it simmilarly through Q (a qemu port for OSX), and it keeps redirecting me to an intramfs prompt
[06:22] <Adola> Restarts of x?
[06:22] <BrianH> whatis intramfs?
[06:22] <Adola> How do I restart x?
[06:22] <maxmahem__> Yeah, log out and hit umm.. Control-E or Alt-E or something.
[06:22] <Tm_T> alt-e
[06:22] <maxmahem__> It should be on the menu down there.
[06:23] <maxmahem__> You can also hit ctrl-backspace or something at anytime (mostly) in KDE, but that will obviously dump your whole session.
[06:23] <Tm_T> and is not recommended
[06:31] <Adola> Restarting X
[06:31] <Adola> Didn't work.
[06:36] <maxmahem__> Is there a way to test localy if I set up my shares correctly? Like connect login and connect to my own shares?
[06:36] <maxmahem__> when setting up SAMBA I mean.
[06:42] <microchip420> hey guys, i am having an issue with my external HDD, i connected it to a friend's pc, which is a Windows OS, and now it will not mount
[06:45] <dr_willis> You can access the local shares.  same as you sould assces remote shares..
[06:45] <dr_willis> not a perfect test.. but you can try it
[06:45] <dr_willis>  there are also some tools to check the smb.conf file for errors.
[06:45] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[06:46] <Orbjinzo> mircochip420
[06:46] <Orbjinzo> what filesystem is the HD formatted with
[06:50] <agh> hi guys
[06:50] <microchip420> Orbjinzo: i am unsure
[06:50] <Orbjinzo> Microchip420: find out and thats your answer.
[06:51] <microchip420> kk, brb
[06:51] <agh> whats the issue?
[06:51] <microchip420> i am having an issue with my external HDD, i connected it to a friend's pc, which is a Windows OS, and now it will not mount
[06:52] <agh> hmm it seems like it was filesystema changed
[06:52] <Tm_T> or just broken
[06:52] <cyril11> ntfs or fat32 ?
[06:53] <agh> it has happened to me with usb flash memories
[06:53] <agh> a nightmare
[06:53]  * Tm_T typically format all that stuff to ext2
[06:53] <agh> agree
[06:53] <Tm_T> even my phone uses ext2 (:
[06:54] <agh> :-)
[06:54] <microchip420> cool, i was able to force the mount
[06:54] <microchip420> problem solved, w00t w00t
[06:54] <dr_willis> http://www.puppylinux.org/community/puppy-ce/puppy-215-ce-viz/expansion-packs
[06:55] <dr_willis> some neat sfs info there
[06:57] <Tm_T> dr_willis: sfs?
[06:58] <patches> hi all
[06:58] <agh> hi
[07:13] <dr_willis> wrong channel paste. :)
[07:13] <dr_willis> lol
[07:13] <Tm_T> I assumed so
[07:13] <dr_willis> PuppyLinux. :)
[07:21] <rio_> Hello !
[07:22] <joseph> hey, rio
[07:22] <rio_> I have kinda got myself in some trouble to install 3D Cube :\ and now Kubuntu looks are gone :"(
[07:23] <rio_> and its neither Kubuntu nor ubuntu lolz
[07:23] <rio_> how do I fix it
[07:24] <rio_> I used one very long command just a while ago it removied all GNome but all good aps too
[07:24] <rio_> can anyone tell me the ways to restore kubuntu
[07:27] <Rio_Jan09> Anyone free there ?
[07:28] <patches_> hi
[07:31] <[NetSkier> rio_, it would help if you would type that long command in here so we could think about it.
[07:31] <rio_> Ok KDE is back
[07:31] <rio_> but everything gone including firefox
[07:31] <rio_> KDE apps only
[07:31] <rio_> ok sure
[07:31] <rio_> I am reffering to something *cats website
[07:34] <rio_> oops that web browsing history is no more since firefox is removed
[07:34] <rio_> sorry cant give that
[07:34] <rio_> psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:35] <rio_> this is the webpage
[07:35] <rio_> and thanks to that I m back to KDE
[07:37] <[NetSkier> rio_, "sudo apt-get install firefox" will install firefox.
[07:38] <[NetSkier> rio_, but don't type the quotes.
[07:39] <rio_> yes thanks
[07:39] <rio_> I installed
[07:39] <[NetSkier> wolf13
[07:40] <dr_willis> reoving firefox -  should not of removed the users firefox settings. :) reisntall it and they should still be there
[07:40] <rio_> oh
[07:41] <rio_> how do I get that cube btw
[07:41] <robinr> how does one get to see the reason for a package update
[07:41] <rio_> I tried my level best
[07:41] <rio_> Its updating
[07:41] <robinr> adept doesn't tell me
[07:46] <maxmahem__> rio_: to get that cube effect you need to either install compiz or upgrade to KDE4.2
[07:46] <maxmahem__> !compiz
[07:46] <rio_> compiz istall
[07:46] <rio_> ed*
[07:47] <rio_> and hor 4 ver 1 and # of desktop = 1
[07:47] <rio_> yet it wont work
[07:47] <maxmahem__> head over to #compiz-fusion then for configuration help and what not.
[07:47] <rio_> ok thanks a lot
[07:47] <maxmahem__> You might install CCSM from adept to help you configure it as you like.
[07:47] <rio_> yes I installed it yet again
[07:48] <dr_willis> 4.2 has a cube and a 'cylinder' :)
[07:48] <maxmahem__> and sphere as well.
[07:49] <dr_willis> Enabling the effects actually made KDE 4.2 useable.. :) wasent near as sluggish as when i had them disabled.. figure that out...
[07:50] <maxmahem__> Only problem I have with it is it keeps the positoning relationships of your desktop on the cube, which doesn't map very well most of the time, and can be confusing. I wish I could configure where and how it maps my desktops.
[07:50] <rio_> I have some plugin for XP which works nice
[07:50] <rio_> exctly like that
[07:51] <rio_> I was expecting Kubuntu doin it better
[07:51] <Tm_T> rio_: it does well
[07:51] <Tm_T> rio_: just that if you decide to use compiz, it's not kubuntu territory anymore
[07:52] <maxmahem__> Compiz can do it in a very impressive manner, kwin's effects are bit more primative, but more stable.
[07:52] <Tm_T> maxmahem__: how primative? (:
[07:52] <Tm_T> I fail to see any big difference
[07:52] <rio_> I see so I'd better leave it alone ? suggesions are welcome
[07:52] <rio_> its my first day on any Linux
[07:52] <dr_willis> I would suggest not mixxing compiz + kde.
[07:53] <Tm_T> I second to that
[07:53] <dr_willis> stick wht the kde4.2 effects if you want them
[07:53] <rio_> ok
[07:53] <MaxMahem> Well for example my problem above. If I arrange my desktops as a square (2x2) they map rather strangely to the cube.
[07:54] <Tm_T> interesting
[07:54]  * Tm_T doesn't use cube at all
[07:54] <Tm_T> so, who knows
[07:54] <Tm_T> I have 9 desktops in use anyway
[07:54] <rio_> I guss I'd go back flip effects and desktops
[07:55] <MaxMahem> In fact they don't really map to the cube at all, but maintain their square relationship to one another. Which may be what somepeople want, but not me. It makes the cube effect rather confusing.
[07:55] <MaxMahem> Also some of my favorite compiz effects (like burning the screen up) aren't present on KDE yet.
[07:55] <MaxMahem> Or having a hot-spot to minimise your desktop, which is another effect I like.
[07:56] <rio_> a very stupid question Will Gnome apps will work in KDE (or Kubuntu) properly ?
[07:56] <MaxMahem> rather minimise all your current windows to your desktop.
[07:56] <Tm_T> MaxMahem: hot-spot? like having some effect triggered by edge/corner of desktop?
[07:56] <MaxMahem> rio_: with the proper librares (which adept/apt-get should get for you) they will. There will be some visual differences.
[07:56] <MaxMahem> Tim_T: Exactly.
[07:57] <rio_> my firefox shows very bad grphics with drop down menus
[07:57] <Tm_T> MaxMahem: it's already in KDE 4.2 so... who is this Tim anyway?
[07:57] <MaxMahem> You can trigger an expose effect (which I like) but not a minimise all effect (which I also like).
[07:58] <MaxMahem> my bad, thats what I get for not using tab complete. My eyes are getting bad, I need to increase the font size.
[07:58] <Tm_T> MaxMahem: heh, I use font size 7 in terminal usually
[07:59] <MaxMahem> Well I have Samba share set up here. But no easy way to test it with no windows client on hand.
[07:59] <MaxMahem> Though I couldn't get SWAT working.
[08:00] <MaxMahem> rio_: If your new to Linux you should spend some time playing with Amarok, greatest music app ever IMO.
[08:00] <MaxMahem> Incredibly awesome.
[08:01] <rio_> I think I like this (OS n everything)
[08:01] <rio_> I m gonna use it as everyday use and windows for windows only apps
[08:02] <rio_> I have been installin and experimenthing since 12 hrs btw LOLz
[08:11] <rio_> I expect only thing from apple now Unix release of iTunes :D
[08:12] <zac> Heyyy
[08:12] <zac> im looking for someone to explain to me how to install amarok 2
[08:12] <zac> <--Kubuntu noob
[08:13] <Tm_T> !neon | zac
[08:13] <zac> i saw the site.
[08:13] <zac> but i cant make sense of it
[08:13] <zac> like the compiling instructions were hard for me
[08:13] <Tm_T> zac: look what ubottu said
[08:14] <Tm_T> zac: you don't have to compile anything
[08:14] <zac> well not compiling
[08:14] <zac> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Compiling:2.0
[08:14] <rio_> if ur on kubuntu it must be installed by default right ?
[08:14] <zac> yaa
[08:14] <Tm_T> rio_: not Amarok 2
[08:14] <rio_> oh
[08:14] <zac> but theres no update on amarok one v.v
[08:14] <Tm_T> zac: see what ubottu said
[08:15] <zac> i did
[08:15] <zac> all it took me to was some neon thing
[08:16] <zac> can someone just give me the terminal codec (if there is one)
[08:16] <rio_> OMG
[08:16] <rio_> its cool
[08:16] <zac> duh
[08:16] <zac> i want it so bad
[08:16] <zac> lol
[08:16] <zac> i like literally installed kubuntu on my pc two days ago
[08:17] <rio_> I also installed bout 20 hrs ago
[08:17] <zac>  lol
[08:17] <zac> this is a pretty nice IRC client btw
[08:18] <booleancat> amarok2 is cake. you got that figured out yet zac?
[08:18] <zac> nooo
[08:18] <zac> i just want someone to help me install it
[08:18] <booleancat> k, awesome
[08:18] <zac> like query me or something, it would be much appreciated
[08:18] <zac> v.v
[08:18] <booleancat> are you using the newest kubuntu (intrepid, I *think*)
[08:18] <zac> 8.10
[08:19] <rio_> you can try website guides dude you place the tar in home then type commands
[08:19] <zac> idk how to install the new beta eiter, (which would also be appreciated, if someone toldme)
[08:19] <booleancat> k, what i want you to do is type "sudo adept" from the console
[08:20] <zac> im sorry
[08:20] <zac> wats the console..
[08:20] <zac> like taskbar?
[08:20] <zac> sorry im used to vista
[08:20] <booleancat> :) k. Type ALT-F2. in the box that pops up, type "konsole" (all without quotes of course)
[08:21] <booleancat> that's fine, its just easier to explain stuff over console if you're chatting, rather than live
[08:21] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> nothing comes up
[08:21] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> oops
[08:21] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> nvm i thought u said f12
[08:21] <booleancat> K, just click the "start menu" thing. Does it have a "search bar" at the top?
[08:21] <booleancat> oh
[08:21] <booleancat> yeah, f2
[08:22] <MaxMahem> to update to KDE4.2 you need to add a different repository to your source list umm...
[08:22] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> OHHH
[08:22] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> terminal
[08:22] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> haha u could of just said that :P
[08:22] <booleancat> yeah ;) sorry
[08:22] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> :P
[08:22] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> no worries
[08:23] <booleancat> Anyway, "sudo adept" and put in your pword. When adept opens, go to the Sources option and then Edit Software Sources
[08:23] <jennifer> hey room
[08:23] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hahaha
[08:23] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> omg
[08:23] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ok
[08:23] <MaxMahem> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrped main I think (might have spelled something wrong).
[08:23] <booleancat> you got it from here? ;)
[08:24] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> not rly
[08:24] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> adept manager looks different from normal
[08:24] <jennifer> i have a little question. Will adobe cs3 work on my computer using Wine?
[08:24] <booleancat> K, go to the "Third Party Software" tab. and then click Add
[08:24] <MaxMahem> jennifer: I haven't run it, but I think I heard that it was supposed to be emulated near perfectly.
[08:24] <booleancat> what do you mean different?
[08:25] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> uhm
[08:25] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> like theres interface, and role, and use
[08:25] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> never seen that before
[08:25] <jennifer> okay just wondering because I am about to install it up here. thanks
[08:25] <booleancat> basicly, you're looking for a Sources option, or a Repositories option
[08:25] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> mmk
[08:25] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> wheres third party software ?
[08:26] <booleancat> Maybe yours is different... Are you using kde 4.1?
[08:26] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ya
[08:26] <jennifer> also I am having issues getting my printer to work. I have a Dell 810 all in one printer. And i was told to install the Lenmark 9500 driver for it since my printer is the same type of build
[08:26] <jennifer> only issue when i go to install it; my computer freezes on me
[08:26] <booleancat> hrm, I'm on 4.2betawhatev
[08:26] <MaxMahem> I have no help for printers, they are the devil.
[08:26] <Firefishe> I need the snd_rtctimer module on 8.10, however, it does not appear to be available.  Thoughts?
[08:26] <booleancat> want the hard-core instrunctions? they aren't TOO bad. I promise
[08:27] <MaxMahem> adept should look pretty much the same in 4.1. I don't think anything really changed, interface wise.
[08:28] <Firefishe> If you're dependent up on kde 3.5.x on a stable system, I don't know if I'd be switching over to 4.1 just now.
[08:28] <Firefishe> upon
[08:28] <jennifer> anyways thnk
[08:28] <MaxMahem> 4.2 is supposed to be out at the end of this month I think.
[08:28] <MaxMahem> 4.1 is stable enough, but the user interface still needs some work.
[08:29] <MaxMahem> 4.2 cleans up most of the issues, and really the 4.2 beta isn't that bad, I'm running it now.
[08:29] <Firefishe> I'm running 4.1 in 8.10 right now, and it's fairly stable without having to go into gnome.  I am having a problem with rosegarden complaining of low latency and a missing module called snd-rtctimer. It's for MIDI instrument work.
[08:30] <Firefishe> I like the new kde! :)
[08:30] <MaxMahem> Yeah, but I couldn't stand not being able to have multiple rows on the Pannel, thankfully 4.2 fixes that and several other issues.
[08:32] <Firefishe> MaxMahem:  Well, I'll look forward to 4.2 when it goes final
[08:33] <MaxMahem> It will be great. I think alot of people are going to be very impressed. Still some rough edges on KDE, but its getting way better.
[08:36] <MaxMahem> In fact my list of issues is pretty small now. Can't get my webcam working, can't configure my extra buttons on my mouse, and arK is crap. That is about it.
[08:36] <MaxMahem> Hopefully my arK problems will be fixed in 4.2
[08:37] <Firefishe> I use the CLI for archive operations
[08:37] <Firefishe> I can see what's going on better, imho anyway.
[08:38] <MaxMahem> I've had to revert to that at times, but it would be nice to be able to click on a folder in dolphin and have arK compress it into an archive. Or drag and drops files into a open archive.
[08:39] <MaxMahem> arK is supposed to be able to do that... but it hasn't worked so good over here.
[08:41] <rio_> hello again where do I post crash report ?
[08:42] <Firefishe> MaxMahem:  Well, there are alternative archiving gui programs, too.
[08:42] <MaxMahem> I haven't had a chance to play around with them just yet, though I have downloaded a couple.
[08:43] <rio_> hey that thing crashes a lot
[08:43] <rio_> media player
[08:43] <rio_> amarok 2
[08:47] <rio_> I tried to install it. But Adept installer crashes :'(
[08:47] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> really?
[08:47] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> how did u get it so fast ?
[08:47] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ohhh
[08:47] <rio_> no no not the media player
[08:48] <rio_> sorry for that
[08:48] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> whats this server called?!
[08:49] <MaxMahem> tab on the far left should tell you.
[08:49] <MaxMahem> I'm on clarke.freenode.net
[08:50] <rio_> damn it now my adept installer wont even start
[08:54] <rio_> how do I start installer it just keep crashin
[08:54] <rio_> E: Type 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntuhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sour
[08:55] <darklife> ndasd
[08:55] <rio_> this si wat I see in terminal
[08:55] <rio_> and installer wont even start :(
[08:59] <herrspock> good morning, just a question, why the web page of Kubuntu is displayed perfectly in firefox, but not in konqueror?
[08:59] <stdin> rio_: you pasted wrong, you need to edit the file and replace the line with "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main"
[09:00] <rio_> how do I undoe it
[09:01] <stdin> rio_: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <stdin> rio_: and edit it
[09:01] <stdin> herrspock: they look identical to me in both
[09:02] <Muzer> Hello. Why won't it let me change the icons for file associations? I'm on the right page, but where on the internet and in help pages the icon is supposed to be clickable, it isn't
[09:03] <herrspock> stdin: then it must be konqueror 3.5.8, that I am using, I'm going to install kubuntu 8.10 today, let's see then
[09:04] <stdin> herrspock: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4886/konqjb3.png
[09:04] <rio_> you saved my day stdin Thanks a tonne
[09:06] <herrspock> stdin: I see, then I'll report the result with konqueror 4
[09:25] <Adola> Hello.
[09:25] <Muzer> hello
[09:25] <Adola> I updated to KDE 4.2  and now Kopete won't work.
[09:26] <robinr> several apps krasched after upgdrade the first time. Launching them worked.
[09:27] <robinr> those were started on login btw, worked after manual launch
[09:27] <robinr> haven't tried to logout and in again
[09:30] <Adola> So, anyone know how to fix it?
[09:35] <RurouniJones> Anyone know how you install and activate a KDE Theme manager file (.kth) in KDE 3.5?
[09:39] <RurouniJones> the install is easy, just click the file and it appears to activate an "Install KDE theme" program
[09:39] <RurouniJones> After that...how on earth do you activate teh bloomin thing
[09:42] <marek_> hi i have a gigantic problem, every time i install something, with apt-get, it blocks console on "starting bluetooth"
[09:42] <marek_> this is some serious case, can you help me?
[09:58] <Walex> marek_: it probably has failed to run a post-install script for some package, and then tries to run it on every installation.
[09:58] <Walex> marek_: what are you using to install?
[10:03] <flipflop> hi. My laptop mic isn't working.  What do I do?
[10:05] <flipflop> KMix doesn't even show an Input tab..
[10:05] <Tung> hi
[10:05] <Tung> <-- noob XD
[10:05] <marek_> Walex apt-get
[10:05] <marek_> i just ran some updates
[10:05] <marek_> i also tried to reboot
[10:05] <marek_> and the same thing happened
[10:05] <marek_> it completely demolished my system
[10:06] <marek_> please help
[10:06] <marek_> flipflop try alsa-mixer in konsole
[10:06] <marek_> look especially for mic boost
[10:06] <fjellrev1> I am having a huge problem with my laptop here,think it's a conflict between Kwin and compiz,but anyways.it hangs on boot up,worked perfectly before I left the house,now it hangs when loading default applications for my session,anyone know where I should start to fix this?
[10:07] <flipflop> marek_: what package is that?  I don't have alsa-mixer
[10:07] <Walex> marek_: "completely demolished" seems a bit strange, and anyhow your description of your problem is not that clear, so I can only guess.
[10:08] <Tung> <-- has also a poblem.. always when i try to install something there are application problems while installing. and its shown me but after installing everything works.. any ideas? XD
[10:08] <marek_> Walex i will try to explain it more detailed
[10:08] <marek_> i'm starting my computer
[10:09] <marek_> and i  can see kubuntu logo
[10:09] <marek_> and the sattus bar
[10:09] <marek_> but it stops in about 80%
[10:09] <marek_> and i can see text
[10:09] <marek_> "starting bluetooth" with no "OK" on right
[10:10] <Tung> ^.^
[10:11] <marek_> flipflop type in konsole "alsa-mixer"
[10:11] <flipflop> I found it.  It's "alsamixer" tho, not "alsa-mixer"
[10:11] <flipflop> and there's nothing about mic there :(
[10:12] <flipflop> except "Mix as output" but I don't think that's what I want
[10:12] <flipflop> *Mic as output
[10:12] <Walex> flipflop: press F5
[10:13] <flipflop> oh ok...
[10:13] <Walex> marek_: have you got any Bluetooth hardware?
[10:13] <marek_> yes, bluetooth usb stack
[10:13] <Walex> flipflop: or use 'alsamixergui'
[10:13] <Walex> marek_: *hardware*?
[10:13] <marek_> Walex but i tried to plug it off
[10:13] <Walex> marek_: ah you meant "stick".
[10:13] <coucouf> hi there, I just changed my password for my main account and now KDM refuses to log me in...
[10:14] <marek_> Walex - stick thats correct
[10:14] <coucouf> googling a bit, I found some interesting solutions like "reinstall", so ideas welcome :)
[10:14] <marek_> the previous line is "Reloading kernel event manager .,.       [OK]"
[10:14] <Walex> marek_: odds are that if you let wait a long time (20m) it will timeout and then you can disable Bluetooth. on startup. Probably the stick is somewhat incompatible.
[10:15] <marek_> it worked befre
[10:15] <marek_> before
[10:16] <marek_> Walex, there was a small update, and there was something with bluetoth, sisnce then, it started
[10:17] <marek_> i think im having this bug
[10:17] <marek_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/262927
[10:17] <marek_> i also have pvr usb2 tv tuner
[10:19] <flipflop> no luck :(
[10:19] <flipflop> my mic still doesn't work
[10:23] <deamoon> hi ppl
[10:24] <deamoon> what command is toupdate repositories?
[10:25] <deamoon> any1?
[10:25] <fjellrev1> apt-get install update ?
[10:25] <fjellrev1> nto install
[10:25] <deamoon> E: Type ‘http://ppa.launchpad.net’ is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:25] <deamoon> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:26] <deamoon> im getting this
[10:26] <deamoon> y
[10:26] <deamoon> ?
[10:26] <fjellrev1> because you have enabled cd repo also
[10:26] <deamoon> but i cant change anythink
[10:26] <deamoon> its not working
[10:26] <deamoon> how can i change it
[10:26] <deamoon> ?
[10:26] <fjellrev1> if you open synaptic and press manage repo and uncheck ch
[10:26] <deamoon> i cant open it
[10:26] <fjellrev1> uncheck cd
[10:27] <deamoon> thats a problem
[10:27] <fjellrev1> how are you trying to open it?
[10:27] <deamoon> trought meniu
[10:28] <deamoon> application
[10:28] <fjellrev1> try sudo synaptic or sudo adept,depending on which you use
[10:29] <deamoon> fatal error occurred
[10:29] <deamoon> w8 ill pastebin it
[10:29] <flipflop> How do I get my microphone to work?
[10:29] <deamoon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/103465/
[10:30] <deamoon> any ideas why
[10:30] <deamoon> ?
[10:31] <deamoon> fjellrev1.?
[10:32] <fjellrev1> looks like it has something to do with QT
[10:32] <deamoon> which means?
[10:33] <fjellrev1> i am no wizard on this but you could try and download libQt packages, libQtCore .. or sudo apt-get install synaptic and try that instead,i find it better
[10:33] <deamoon> ok ill trry
[10:33] <deamoon> i cant
[10:33] <deamoon> install
[10:33] <deamoon> anythink
[10:34] <fjellrev1> what whaat? :) whats it saying?
[10:34] <deamoon> E: Type ‘http://ppa.launchpad.net’ is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:34] <deamoon> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:34] <fjellrev1> aha..
[10:34] <deamoon> :(
[10:34] <fjellrev1> okay sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <fjellrev1> find the launchpad and E repos and uncomment them with # infron of them
[10:35] <fjellrev1> they should be on line 55 the launchpad
[10:35] <fjellrev1> find E as well
[10:38] <deamoon> looks like its start working
[10:39] <fjellrev1> yeah!great success!think you should stay clear of the launchpad repo
[10:39] <deamoon> ok
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[10:43] <fjellrev1> np,nice to be able to help
[10:44] <deamoon> xexexe
[10:57] <wathek> hello all how can I delete the pppoeconfig configuration ?
[10:58] <keymone> check /etc/ppp/peers
[10:58] <wathek> ok
[11:01] <wathek> keymone, could you help me please ? I cannot find why I cannot connect to wireless network anymore yesterday I used pppoeconfig to be able to connect a network and now the kde network manager don't connect to any network how ever iwlist scan shows me the availble networks but not kde network manager
[11:04] <keymone> well pppoeconf has nothing to do with wireless network
[11:04] <keymone> how do you know kde network manager does not show any networks? did you try adding a network?
[11:05] <wathek> yes
[11:06] <wathek> keymone, and when I click on connect to other network I choose my network nothing happens
[11:06] <keymone> check syslog for errors
[11:06] <wathek> ok
[11:07] <wathek> keymone, it says Jan 11 12:07:18 Wathek NetworkManager: <WARN>  impl_manager_activate_connection(): Connection (2) /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/Connection/8 failed to activate: (2) Device not managed by NetworkManager
[11:08] <keymone> no idea what's wrong..
[11:09] <keymone> check if you have to install some restricted drivers
[11:09] <keymone> but that's a pure guess
[11:09] <wathek> keymone, euh
[11:09] <wathek> ok
[11:10] <wathek> keymone, what's strange is that iwconfig shows me my wireless config
[11:10] <wathek> and iwlist scan detects some networks
[11:13] <wathek> keymone, I'm using a non-free driver for my wireless card
[11:14] <mario1965> ciao
[11:22] <chukwuma> hello all
[11:23] <chukwuma> wanna chat
[11:25] <tictric> chukwuma: #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:26] <chukwuma> ffffffffffffffff
[11:27] <ksa-24> سسسسسسسسسسسسس
[11:48] <chukwuma> any one wanna chat
[11:54] <hyper_ch> no
[11:55] <hyper_ch> don't query me
[11:56] <chukwuma> wuery you ok
[12:07] <thomliz> hi
[12:15] <Adola> Hello.
[12:15] <Adola> I need help please
[12:16] <PhilRod> Adola: just ask. If anyone knows, they'll tell you
[12:16] <Adola> Ok.
[12:16] <Adola> I updated to KDE 4.2 and now KOpete won't connect
[12:16] <Adola> I get this error
[12:16] <Adola> QSqlQuery::prepare: database not open
[12:27] <Koordin> hi is it possible to do such a useless thing as letting only a time t for entering the password (on sudo for example, or on unlocking, or on login, etc.)
[12:48] <Adola> Hey, Tuxguitar isn't in Synaptic or Adept.
[12:48] <Adola> Why>
[12:49] <orbital_fox> Adola: probably too new/unstable
[12:50] <Adola> Well, In like...The dumb Adept.  (The one that has asearch bar and shows you a nice graphical list of applications-Not the one whith all that otehr stuff..Like source code and that good sguff)
[12:50] <Adola> It shows up in the dumb adept.
[12:51] <Adola> But not in like...Synaptic Package Manager
[12:51] <Adola> (Also, it's doing this with Hydrogen)
[12:51] <diego> olá amigos
[12:51] <orbital_fox> that is weird.. cause they should both probably have the same repositories, there for same packages
[12:52] <Adola> Yeah.  I know.
[12:52] <orbital_fox> why dont you install from the one you can get it from?
[12:53] <Guest60157> Hi, i am lookingo for a aplication to make my xfce stay like a MacOSX. somebody can help me?
[12:53] <orbital_fox> Guest60157: what do you mean by " stay" ?
[12:54] <Adola> I will.  But, THere are extra's that dumb adept wont' show
[12:54] <orbital_fox> Adola: by extras you mean recommendations?
[12:54] <Adola> No, like.
[12:54] <Adola> Umm, just extra stuff.
[12:54] <Adola> Like, for example.
[12:54] <Adola> "Kmess" in Kopete
[12:55] <Adola> If you use dumb Adept.  You can only get Kopete.  But, with smart Adept or SMP, you can get Kmess
 sorry for my terible english.... the aparence. and that toolbar
[12:56] <orbital_fox> Adola: so what you are referring to as dump is the simple installer/remover, why the smart is the full package manager?
[12:56] <Adola> Yes.
[12:56] <Idzme> we're can i tun off that bouncing icon at the start off each programm??
[12:57] <orbital_fox> Guest60157: you should probably go to the XFCE channel then
[12:57] <rio_de_janeiro> ok!
[12:57] <rio_de_janeiro> thanks
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> Idzme- I think it's System Settings -> Desktop -> Launch Feedback
[12:58] <orbital_fox> Adola: the package manager has more options for handling less established packages, and giving power users more options
[12:58] <Idzme> Dragnslcr: thanks, I'll have a look
[12:58] <Adola> HOw do I get back usablility?
[13:00] <orbital_fox> Adola: what do you mean usability?
[13:01] <bthompson> anybody know how to get a kodak easy share digital camera working in kubuntu...it sits on a dock that is connected via usb...in windows when you press the button on the dock it comes up and has you pull pictures of camera...
[13:01] <Adola> Well,Package manager wont' correctly.
[13:01] <Adola> It won't show many packages
[13:01] <Adola> Like...There are very few.
[13:01] <Adola> And yes, I've reloaded.
[13:01] <Adola> Let me try again thtough
[13:02] <bthompson> oh an some how after i rebooted the kmenu is on the right hand screen and not on the left...how do i get it back on the right side..
[13:02] <orbital_fox> bthompson: search the forums for the kodak camera
[13:03] <orbital_fox> Adola: are you in the simple installer/remover or the full package manager
[13:03] <Adola> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/kubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[13:03] <Adola> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:03] <Adola> I'm in the advancd.
[13:04] <Adola> I reloaded.  And got that error.
[13:04] <orbital_fox> Adola: thats a development branch with nightly builds if i am not mistaken
[13:05] <orbital_fox> you could damage your system if dont know what you are doing
[13:08] <Adola> Ok.  I typed in "Inkscape" intot eh advanced installer.
[13:08] <Adola> I have inscpae installed.
[13:08] <Adola> And nothing showed up.
[13:09] <bthompson> anybody got any ideas on how the kmenu got to the right of screen instead of left..
[13:12] <Muzer> My on-motherboard sound card, which kmix identifies as "HDA Intel", in Windows can output in 2, 4, or 6 channels, each progressively converting more input ports into output ports. However, on Linux, I can only choose 2 channel or 6 channel, so I can either have the mic working, or surround sound working.
[13:15] <ghostcube> hi guys i read about the kde xorg garbage that is resulting from an patch that fc and ubuntu are doing toxorg.conf is there anything known if this gets fixed
[13:15] <ghostcube> its really annoying
[13:15] <ghostcube> :)
[13:16] <ghostcube> *xorg server
[13:18] <bthompson> Adola: not finding much on the forums in respect to the kodak camera
[13:18] <Adola> ?!
[13:18] <Adola> Kodak camera?
[13:20] <bthompson> its a z7590....i think it may take some tweaking to get it working on the camera dock
[13:21] <bthompson> i would bet if i had the usb cable to plug it directly in it might work...
[13:24] <dr_willis> from what ive seen most docks are just usb hubs + a power converter thing..
[13:24] <dr_willis> some may have extra features I guess. :)
[13:25] <Adola> Where is the document htat has the reop's on it?
[13:26] <bthompson> well i feel stupid...i just realized the cable was disconnected from the dock....so its work now..
[13:27] <ghostcube> i talking about htis one here http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170462
[13:27] <bthompson> it doesn't pop up a program but you can select import from camera...in digikam program
[13:35] <Adola> What is the document's name with the repos?
[13:38] <ghostcube> sources.list
[13:38] <ghostcube> in /etc/apt/
[13:38] <Adola> Thanks.
[13:38] <ghostcube> np
[13:38] <bjorn> Is it possible to add password to a folder in the file system?
[13:40] <jobjebaraj> how to configure touchpad in Lenovo laptop? Please Help me on the driver downloads and configuration
[13:40] <jobjebaraj> How to configure laptop inbuilt cam on Lenov Laptop? Help me on the driver downloads and configuration
[13:40] <hatoyu>  I make install kdevelop4 and run it correctly but some menu can not pop up and I didnot find new project
[13:42] <dr_willis> Configure what aspect of the touchpad?   Theres some Ubuntu/kubuntu forums/docs i think that  have some specific info on laptops.
[13:51] <MinusSeven> hi
[13:51] <MinusSeven> I installed Kubuntu. If I'm using one program that uses sound, any other programs I load, the sound doesn't work.
[13:52] <hunt_> aloha all, i am pretty new on kubuntu and i would like to backup my system be4 i do something again in my lib and than nothing function anymore. can somebody give me instruction 4 this please?
[14:02] <bvalek2> MinusSeven: as far as i know, you are supposed to be able to use 16 distinct programs, that use sound
[14:02] <bvalek2> hunt_: all you need to back up, is that you fear to lose :)
[14:03] <ghostcube> MinusSeven, you can try to get this done by jackd if the sound progz you use can communicate with it
[14:03] <ghostcube> it has an own patch bay
[14:04] <hunt_> i dont want to lose.. ;-)
[14:05] <hunt_> not again, it happens few days ago, some changes in the lib and i couldnt connect to the internet anymore
[14:05] <hunt_> i just want to backup the system be4 i install something new where i am not sure
[14:06] <bvalek2> hunt_: save your private files, and then experiment around. in the worst case, you have to do a complete reinstall, but you dont have to worry, since you have everything backed up. this is the best way to get familiar with your system
[14:06] <ghostcube> hunt_, the home folder is all u need
[14:06] <ghostcube> :)
[14:07] <ghostcube> everything else is system
[14:08] <hunt_> i eisntall the system few days ago because of some new settings and then i couldnt get anymore too the internet.
[14:13] <Guest95544> hi
[14:21] <flodin> hi i installed kubuntu-desktop the other day to try out kde, but i can't find anywhere that i can change keyboard layout. Do i need to install something more?
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> flodin: There is a keyboard layout configuration module in the regional & language section of system settings
[14:24] <bvalek2> flodin: select from the start menu -> System settings -> Personal -> Regional & Language ->Keyboard Layout
[14:25] <flodin> ahh there, thank you
[14:25] <flodin> by the way, i was here last week trying to figure out why kde was running extremely slow
[14:25] <lenjoubert> flodin: and did you figure out?
[14:26] <flodin> it turns out it was the nvidia drivers. I've upgraded from 170 something to version 180
[14:26] <flodin> the speed difference is crazy
[14:26] <lenjoubert> I have nvidia drivers as well
[14:26] <bvalek2> flodin: i remember that, i am glad that it worked :)
[14:27] <flodin> at that time i don't think the drivers were released yet, at least not for 64-bit
[14:27] <lenjoubert> I have nvidia 177.82
[14:27] <flodin> but i discovered they were available now
[14:27] <flodin> yeah 177 is what i meant
[14:27] <lenjoubert> and have nuerious problems with "greyed out" screens
[14:28] <flodin> actually the functionality is there in version 177 too, but you had to enable it with special tweaks in xorg.conf. In 180 it's enabled by default
[14:28] <flodin> apparently it was some problem with memory allocation speed in the driver
[14:28] <lenjoubert> I will immediately download the 180
[14:28] <lenjoubert> only problem is about 15 minutes afterwards to get xorg going after any nvidia update :-(
[14:29] <flodin> not with ubuntu. I just grabbed them with aptitude :)
[14:29] <flodin> search for nvidia-glx-180
[14:30] <lenjoubert> tnx I usually download from nvidia website
[14:30] <lenjoubert> flodin: tnx will do
[14:30] <flodin> you will need to add the restricted package sources if you didn't already
[14:30] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:30] <lenjoubert> flodin: will do so and report back if there is a speed increase ....
[14:32] <raidenovich> salut, i bought a barebone to us it as an server, i installed kubuntu on it. everything works fine, but when i attempt to start a remote login i get very many graphical issues... i cant see anything... i use the remote login with krdc and an laptop.. could it have anything to do with the framerate supportet on my laptop?
[14:42] <flodin> how can i change the blinking rate of the cursor?
[14:58] <thomliz> hi
[14:58] <thomliz> wie geht
[14:58] <thomliz> hallo arno
[14:58] <feb> hi, gutentag, bonjour, dag
[14:59] <thomliz> was ist jetzt
[14:59] <feb> a stupid installer corrupted system files. How do you force a reinstallation of a package without removing and redownloading all the dependencies ?
[14:59] <SlimeyPete> sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[14:59] <thomliz> bitte duch
[15:00] <SlimeyPete> !dutch
[15:00] <feb> SlimeyPete: does it reinstall libs and all or just reconfigure stuff ?
[15:00] <thomliz> ja
[15:00] <SlimeyPete> feb: it re-installs the package. I don't think it re-installs dependencies though.
[15:01] <feb> SlimeyPete: sounds good, gonna try
[15:02] <SlimeyPete> feb: also try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename"
[15:05] <feb> i think i tried that one
[15:05] <feb> gonna try to repair the system at distance
[15:06] <Kovert> what is the default samba for intrepid with kde 4.2 beta (I know it shouldn't matter)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Kovert , just look for it in adept or install normally with apt in the the terminal
[15:33] <bobek> hey
[15:33] <bobek> I hawe a probem witch brownse my disk
[15:35] <salvatore> ciao
[15:36] <ghostcube> !it | salvatore
[15:36] <ghostcube> :)
[15:37] <bashit> hello
[15:38] <bashit> i've got a question concerning bluetooth support in the freshly released kde 4-2 beta
[15:38] <bashit> does it work yet? :)
[15:39] <root> g'morning...any tips for getting verizon usb modem working
[15:40] <ghostcube> first never log in to irc as root
[15:40] <ghostcube> :D
[15:41] <wa4chq> hello...any tips for getting verizon usb modem working with kubuntu
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !pl | bobek
[15:49] <solid_liq> !ping
[15:59] <cumulus007> GTk apps are ugly in Kubuntu
[15:59] <cumulus007> I want to se Firefox, but it looks ugly
[16:00] <cumulus007> I have had this problem earlier, but I could fix it
[16:00] <cumulus007> now, I have forgotten how to fix it
[16:00] <cumulus007> does ayone know how to fix it?
[16:05] <flodin> hm right, there's some thing to tweak firefox
[16:05] <flodin> some extension
[16:06] <flodin> you'll probably find it if you google
[16:06] <flodin> but fwiw, you should try opera which is a qt application
[16:07] <cumulus007> opera, blergh
[16:28] <doc__> hi there
[16:30] <BluesKaj> hi there to you too, doc__  )
[16:36] <paolo> hi. I can't install (apt) the headers of my kernel (2.6.24-19-generic). when I do apt-get install linux-headers-386, I have the wrong versions of the headers (25 and 27)
[16:37] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-&(uname -r)
[16:38] <paolo> ghostcube: already tried. it says that the package can't be installed
[16:38] <ghostcube> for what reason
[16:38] <paolo> Package linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:39] <paolo> ghostcube:
[16:40] <ghostcube> what distrie is this ?
[16:40] <ghostcube> hardy ?
[16:40] <paolo> 8.10 kde 4
[16:40] <paolo> ghostcube:
[16:41] <ghostcube> so u cant have 2.6.24 normally
[16:41] <paolo> it seems I can't
[16:41] <ghostcube> what does uname -r tell u
[16:41] <paolo> 2.6.24-19-generic
[16:41] <ghostcube> is this an update from hardy
[16:41] <paolo> yes
[16:41] <ghostcube> ok you ticked stay with menu.list
[16:42] <ghostcube> it hasent created an new kernel entry as it seems
[16:42] <paolo> so what should I do in order to fix it ?
[16:42] <ghostcube> dpkg -l linux-image*   is there an 2.6.27.x
[16:43] <paolo> ghostcube: ?
[16:43] <paolo> ah
[16:43] <paolo> sorry
[16:43] <paolo> let me try
[16:44] <paolo> linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic and others
[16:44] <ghostcube> no 2.6.27 ?
[16:45] <paolo> ghostcube: yes, there is it
[16:45] <ghostcube> ok now u need to edit youre grub/menu.list
[16:45] <ghostcube> and add the kernel
[16:47] <paolo> ghostcube: I have this line
[16:47] <paolo> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=4525401c-850b-45d7-a034-f7d75cead19c ro single
[16:47] <ghostcube> can u pastebin the menu.list plase
[16:47] <ghostcube> !pastebin
[16:47] <paolo> ok
[16:48] <paolo> ghostcube: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103574/
[16:52] <ghostcube> paolo, can u ppost the line from the installed linux 2.6.27 kernel i need to know the exact naimg
[16:52] <lovre> hi all
[16:52] <paolo> ghostcube: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=4525401c-850b-45d7-a034-f7d75cead19c ro single
[16:53] <paolo> do you mean this one ?
[16:53] <ghostcube> nah :)
[16:53] <jussi01> ghostcube: paolo you can just run sudo update-grub
[16:53] <ghostcube> jussi01, if he ticked stay with old one this wasent working here but he can try it
[16:53] <lovre> i edited a script that runs on startup a few months ago, but now i dont know what script that was. I only know i can see its output in virtual terminal 8 (CTRL+ALT+F8).. does anyone have an idea what could be that script?
[16:54] <ghostcube> paolo, try what jussi01 suggested
[16:54] <ghostcube> close menu.list
[16:54] <ghostcube> and do sudo update-grub
[16:54] <ghostcube> if this wont work we can try it the other way
[16:54] <paolo> but then I have to reboot ?
[16:55] <ghostcube> first look into the menu.list again if the command added the new kernel
[16:55] <paolo> I don't see it in menu.list
[16:56] <ghostcube> u did the sudo update-grub ?
[16:56] <paolo> yes
[16:56] <ghostcube> ok then it wont work this way
[16:56] <ghostcube> :)
[16:56] <lovre> i found it, it was rc.local.. thank you
[16:57] <ghostcube> can u post the output of  dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.27*
[16:57] <ghostcube> to pastebin.com
[16:57] <ghostcube> jussi01, this is a strange thing it doesnt detect th enew kernel if u told at hardy update keep installed menu.list
[16:58] <ghostcube> i had this many times
[16:58] <paolo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103577/
[16:59] <Guest72677> Hi there every body
[16:59] <Guest72677> I need to ask something about kubuntu
[17:00] <ghostcube> paolo, why do you have so many kernels installed
[17:00] <Senior> My headphones jack is not working
[17:00] <paolo> ghostcube: I really don't know. I didn't install any kernel manually
[17:01] <paolo> I only installed linux-headers-386
[17:01] <Senior> ghostcube: My headphones jack is not working
[17:02] <ghostcube> paolo,  dpkg -l linux-image*    and post it with the ii or un infront of it to pastebin.com pls
[17:02] <ghostcube> Senior, no idea have u checked the mixers
[17:02] <paolo>  ii or un infront of it <--- ?
[17:03] <ghostcube> sure if u do dpkg -l  it will list the packages with the state of installation
[17:03] <paolo> ah sorry
[17:03] <paolo> ok
[17:03] <freaky_t> can anyone tell me how i can get that desktop folder display in kde4 when a friend has "accidently" closed it? oO
[17:03] <Senior> ghostcube: nop
[17:04] <ghostcube> freaky_t, afaik its an mini programm
[17:04] <freaky_t> yea what is it called? oO
[17:04] <ghostcube> or wait just drop the folder to the desktop
[17:04] <ghostcube> it should ask you how to display
[17:05] <paolo> ghostcube:
[17:05] <paolo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103578/
[17:05] <flodin> er... how do you actually select a file in dolphin
[17:05] <flodin> without executing it
[17:05] <paolo> ghostcube: by thw way, thnks for your help!
[17:07] <ghostcube> paolo, http://pastebin.com/m6de11a98
[17:08] <ghostcube> hmm wait
[17:09] <ghostcube> http://pastebin.com/m1a1606f8
[17:09] <ghostcube> this one
[17:14] <paolo> ghostcube: does it differs only on lines 127-131 ?
[17:14] <ghostcube> yes
[17:14] <ghostcube> the new entry for the kernel
[17:14] <paolo> ghostcube: should i reboot, obviously ?
[17:15] <ghostcube> after u added this yes
[17:15] <paolo> let's try
[17:24] <paolo> ghostcube: thnks for all!
[17:25] <ghostcube> working ?
[17:25] <paolo> yes
[17:25] <ghostcube> ok :)
[17:25] <paolo> now the actual kernel i 2.6.27
[17:25] <ghostcube> and remain if it asks again keep or install new menu.list for an update
[17:25] <ghostcube> install th enew one :)
[17:25] <paolo> ok
[17:32] <Bauldrick> looking to get a 3 in 1 wifi printer anyone use one here?
[17:38] <bigmanden> curious as to whether I could get an answer from anyone regarding the best way to remove a swap partition before I reinstall ubuntu dualboot on an imac
[17:40] <naesa> is there a way to use the old 3.5-menu in kde4? or atleast something that looks like it
[17:40] <torkiano> naesa: yes
[17:40] <naesa> torkiano: mind telling me how? :)
[17:40] <torkiano> add component to the panel
[17:41] <torkiano> there is 2 diferent start menus
[17:41] <naesa> what's the old one called?
[17:41] <JontheEchidna> naesa: right click on the menu button and select "classic menu"
[17:41] <naesa> oh boy is it really that simple?
[17:42] <naesa> i feel like an idiot.. Thanks JontheEchidna and torkiano
[17:42] <JontheEchidna> :)
[17:45] <rainarrow> Hello, I've got a problem with my display resolution: I chose 1280x960 in system settings->Display, but when I restart, it becomes 1280x1024(after loggin in). Once I start system settings->Display without doing anything, the display resolution become correct
[17:45] <rainarrow> is there a way to make my system remember my resolution setting?
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> me knows there's an open bug about that
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> er
[17:47]  * JontheEchidna knows there's an open bug about that
[17:48] <rainarrow> really? actually it worked for me before I delete(and let the system rebuild automatically) my ~/.kde directory
[17:48] <JontheEchidna> https://launchpad.net/bugs/268434 and http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163707
[17:50] <rainarrow> ok..
[17:50] <rainarrow> confirmed, my problem is the same as this bug
[17:50] <OxDeadC0de> When will 4.2RC1 be packaged??
[17:50] <OxDeadC0de> or will it?
[17:51] <ghostcube> 13.01.
[17:53] <rainarrow> Thanks, JontheEchidna
[17:56] <freaky_t> ghostcube ok thank you
[17:57] <holli> hi. is there a way to become a real superuser in a shell, that saves me from typing "sudo this", "sudo that"? (basically the password for "su")
[17:57] <ghostcube> there is an roadmap for kde 4.2
[17:57] <ghostcube> hoisn, set the root password and then su
[17:57] <ghostcube> holli,
[17:57] <holli> how do i do that?
[17:57] <ghostcube> sudo passwd  is for the root password
[17:57] <holli> will try
[17:58] <holli> wonderful. thx
[17:58] <liddell> hi hi
[17:59] <holli> he he =)
[18:00] <BrianH> howdy howdy
[18:00] <liddell> so i am trying to upgrade wine and adept manager is saying that it would break packages. so it tried it with synaptic and it says "Depends: libasound2 (>1.0.17) but 1.0.15-3ubuntu4 is to be installed" any suggestions?
[18:00] <BrianH> is atp-get not available from the LIveCD?
[18:01] <ghostcube> apt-get should work fine
[18:02] <BrianH> I'm running from my usb thumbdrive right now (made from usb-creator) and it won't recognize atp-get
[18:02] <ghostcube> its apt
[18:02] <ghostcube> not atp
[18:02] <ghostcube> :|
[18:03] <BrianH> *sigh* it's been a long day, thanks :)
[18:06] <thomliz> hi
[18:07]  * Tm_T slaps Bou_afk with awaynick reminder
[18:07] <rainarrow> how to add the systray icon that let you change screen resolution? mine is lost after deleting my .kde directory
[18:13] <megajosh2> Lol why am I in here, I don't even have Kubuntu
[18:22] <estan> hm. how can i make the external monitor hooked up to my laptop stay turned on when i close the laptop lid?
[18:23] <ingerashu> hi everyone
[18:23] <estan> i want only the laptop screen to turn off.
[18:23] <ingerashu> does anyone know how to speed up file transfer in pidgin?
[18:23] <ingerashu> it's really slow
[18:24] <ingerashu> maximum 100kb :|
[18:24] <ingerashu> anyone?
[18:28] <estan> another question; anyone recently gotten bad sound (noisy at high pitch) with intel laptop?
[18:29] <estan> (82801G chip).
[18:30] <holli> strange. i have just installed the flash player for youtube, image is ok but there is no sound. strange because the soundcard works. (can play mp3s)
[18:30] <holli> so many questions =)
[18:30] <estan> i don't get the noise in mplayer (alsa), only in KDE apps (kaffeine, amarok).
[18:32] <ghostcube> holli, flashplayer 10 ?
[18:32] <ghostcube> there is something about an bug for this
[18:33] <jevon_> having a problem updating repositories. When I try in gui, I get a crash through KDE. If I run apt-get update, I get a list of 302: moved temporarily errors
[18:33] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get -f install
[18:34] <jevon> no go
[18:34] <holli> the newest, ghostcube
[18:34] <holli> i did not really look at the version number
[18:34] <holli> =)
[18:36] <TraceRoute87> how the heck do you properly rearrange icons on the panel on kde4.1
[18:36] <holli> bah, never mind
[18:37] <holli> something has set the mixer volume to zero :]
[18:37] <holli> it wasn't me. i think
[18:38] <holli> fine. so now flash works in firefox, how to make it so in konqueror
[18:40] <holli> ah, i had installed the nvidia driver
[18:41] <holli> looks like it comes with its own sound mixer. wtf?
[18:41]  * holli shakes head
[18:45] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:45] <KomiaPoika> how can i install a slide show screen saver in kde4 beta?
[18:47] <KomiaPoika> in kde 4.2 beta i can't put up a single picture in the background of kdm, why?
[18:47] <invitado> hi
[18:48] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> heyy
[18:49] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i just installed amarok 2, without configuring amarok 1.4 audio previously ( i just reinstalled kubuntu) and when i go to configure it, it doesnt work
[18:55] <jevon> any ideas on how to fix problems with "repository error 302: moved temporarily"
[18:56] <Bou_afk> Tm_T: you hurted me!
[19:00] <mm_> عربي ؟
[19:01] <ksa-24> الووووووووووو
[19:05] <jussi01> !sa
[19:07] <jevon> having a problem updating repositories. When I try in gui, I get a crash through KDE. If I run apt-get update, I get a list of 302: moved temporarily errors
[19:08] <jussi01> jevon: Id suggest going into adept and changing to a different country or the main archive
[19:09] <jussi01> (theres a dropdown box)
[19:10] <jevon> any ones you know that works wityh 8.04
[19:13] <Tm_T> !away > Bou
[19:15] <jevon> strange; this computer works fine with the updates, but my laptop is messing up
[19:18] <bthompson> hey guys after rebooting my kemnu ended up on the right side of my screen any ideas on what may have caused this and how i get it back to the left side..
[19:19] <jevon> can you just drag it back over
[19:21] <bthompson> no
[19:22] <bthompson> i don't know how it got over there in the first place..it wasn't like this when i rebooted..
[19:22] <bthompson> maybe i should try another reboot..
[19:24] <bthompson> rebooting now
[19:28] <ingerashu> it is possible to save my ubuntu settings on dvd or something?
[19:29] <ingerashu> i want to installanother os
[19:29] <ingerashu> and i want to save these programs i installed on ubuntu and all of the settings for the future
[19:37] <darkdelusions> ingerashu: You could back up your home folder
[19:37] <darkdelusions> that is where most of your setting are stored
[19:37] <shadeslayer> hi everybody
[19:42] <ingerashu> could you be more precise?
[19:43] <ingerashu> im really disapointed in ubuntu
[19:44] <ingerashu> i mean linux in general
[19:44] <ingerashu> many programs runs much slower than a xp program
[19:44] <ingerashu> many times it blocks
[19:44] <ingerashu> internet speed reduced
[19:44] <ingerashu> problems running xp games
[19:44] <ingerashu> ...
[19:49] <underdog_> can anyone tell me why i cannot connect to my wireless (wpa2 protected) network?  it freezes at 28% and says unable to connect.  it's a linksys wireless pci adapter.
[19:51] <jackpot_200111> try wicd..... i was also having issue wtih network manager. wicd works like a charm
[19:51] <jackpot_200111> assuming this is not a driver issue
[19:51] <underdog_> hmm, i did.  but it showed unable to connect
[19:51] <underdog_> and i connect no problem from my laptop
[19:52] <underdog_> but the desktop = no dice
[19:55] <ksa-24> no
[19:55] <gast> exit
[19:56] <W8TAH> hi guys in 16 days KDE 4.2 will be comming out -- how can i integrate it into my Intrepid systems?
[19:56] <ghostcube> W8TAH, in 2 days the rc1 is coming
[19:56] <ghostcube> www.kubuntu.org
[19:57] <ghostcube> and there is an article gfor beta2
[19:57] <ghostcube> and the main updates should be in official repo
[19:58] <W8TAH> cool
[20:04] <W8TAH> how stable is beta 2 prooving to be?
[20:04] <W8TAH> proving
[20:05] <mbc_admin> jackalope?
[20:06] <shadeslayer> W8TAH:except for a few glitches here and there its quite stabke
[20:06] <shadeslayer> *stable
[20:06] <W8TAH> very cool
[20:06] <W8TAH> i'll do the upgrade on here right now
[20:06] <shadeslayer> W8TAH:only the weather and the RSS feed widgets do not work,its better that KDE 4.1
[20:07] <W8TAH> ok -- thats dooable -- will the weather one be functional by final?
[20:08] <shadeslayer> W8TAH:yeah they'll probably fix it as its a reported bug
[20:08] <W8TAH> kewl
[20:10] <PigeonHD> Hey i've just switch from ubuntu to kubuntu and my printer doesn't work... do i need to do something special?
[20:12] <shadeslayer> PigeonHD:does'nt the HP application thingy in the K menu work???
[20:12] <PigeonHD> hmmm HP application thingy ? lol
[20:12] <shadeslayer> im new too
[20:13] <PigeonHD> ok
[20:13] <shadeslayer> just 2 weeks of usage
[20:13] <PigeonHD> well yeah i got an HP
[20:13] <jussi01> PigeonHD: what printer is it and how did you install it in ubuntu?
[20:13] <shadeslayer> AND i dont have a printer lol
[20:13] <PigeonHD> with CUPS
[20:13] <PigeonHD> HP LaserJet 1018
[20:13] <jussi01> PigeonHD: also, describe "doesnt work"
[20:13] <PigeonHD> well doesnt print lol
[20:14] <jussi01> PigeonHD: but it has installed?
[20:15] <PigeonHD> hmmm i guess yeah
[20:15] <PigeonHD> but when i click a test page, it doesnt print
[20:16] <jussi01> PigeonHD: have you tried a normal page from open ofice?
[20:16] <PigeonHD> yeah, not working
[20:16] <Alukard> Всем доброго вечера.
[20:17] <Alukard> Есть русскоязычные пользователи?
[20:20] <jussi01> !ru | Alukard
[20:21] <PigeonHD> so that was russian? lol
[20:21] <shadeslayer> i thought it was greek :D
[20:22] <jussi01> maybe it was... hrm... didnt look closely...
[20:22] <PigeonHD> i thought too shadeslayer lol
[20:22] <jussi01> !gr
[20:22] <PigeonHD> well maybe not
[20:22] <PigeonHD> that was strange :P
[20:22] <jussi01> nah, russian
[20:23] <shadeslayer> definitely
[20:23] <ghostcube> yep kyrillic
[20:23] <shadeslayer> the guy had said a good evening to all of us lol
[20:24] <bert_> wie setz ich richtig einen einhängepunkt für sda6
[20:25] <PigeonHD> !ge
[20:25] <legodude> !gr
[20:25] <PigeonHD> lol
[20:25] <legodude> er
[20:25] <legodude> darn
[20:25] <legodude> !de
[20:25] <legodude> there we go
[20:25] <PigeonHD> what is the format of the driver?
[20:26] <W8TAH> as i am using adept to upgrade im getting a ton of fails on the retreive package lits -- when i try to do it via apt-- its yelling about unauthenticated packaes
[20:27] <legodude> bert_: mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/einhangepunkt
[20:27] <shadeslayer> W8TAH:just skip the authnentication check
[20:27] <W8TAH> expected behavior?
[20:27] <shadeslayer> legodude:google translate lol
[20:28] <jussi01> W8TAH: yeah
[20:28] <W8TAH> ok
[20:28] <PigeonHD> "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[20:28] <PigeonHD> :(
[20:28] <shadeslayer> W8TAH:well it just authenticates if passages are from ubuntu repos or not
[20:28] <jussi01> W8TAH: Im guessing they are ppa's?
[20:28] <shadeslayer> not a biggie
[20:28] <W8TAH> ya
[20:28] <jussi01> W8TAH: expected then
[20:28] <W8TAH> cool by me
[20:29] <shadeslayer> i never paid any attention to them
[20:29] <shadeslayer> just followed the instructions
[20:29] <W8TAH> well adept kept failing
[20:29] <W8TAH> so im now usig apt
[20:30] <shadeslayer> W8TAH:dunno,mine went easily through adept
[20:30] <W8TAH> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:30] <W8TAH>  /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb
[20:30] <W8TAH> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:30] <W8TAH> tholmes@Tim-Laptop:~$
[20:32] <Alukard> если я не говорб по английски это не значит, что не поимаю, что вы пишете gr :(
[20:32] <shadeslayer> dont know anything about it,but yeah i did encounter some errors,but it upgraded easily
[20:33] <legodude> !ru > Alukard
[20:33] <W8TAH> ok -- trying again
[20:33] <Alukard> Ok
[20:34] <nct> Hi. In KDE 4.2 beta, is there a package that I can install to have file information in dolphin, such as the sizes and resolutions of images or bitrates of audio files?
[20:35] <legodude> nct:  hit F11
[20:36] <legodude> nm
[20:36] <legodude> I thought that gave resolution
[20:37] <nct> it doesn't give any more data other then the generic ones such as size, types, and dates
[20:37] <legodude> yup, I thought I've seen it somewhere though
[20:37] <nct> in kde 3.x, a right click+properties gave a lot more informations
[20:37] <nct> I guess that I am missing some plugin
[20:38] <legodude> maybe it was around in 4.1?
[20:38] <nct> I've tried to start nepomuk, just in case, but it doesn't help, it just provides rating
[20:50] <The_ManU_212>  hi i use hardy and want to use my saa7134 with vlc, anyone can help?
[20:55] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> can someone help me with amarok 2 please
[20:55]  * booleancat just had to perform the "./configure && make && make install" dance for the first time in /years/
[20:55] <booleancat> |zac|-sk|8|er-: hi! I'm back now ;)
[20:55] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hey !!!
[20:56] <booleancat> good timing, bit
[20:56] <booleancat> btw*
[20:56] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hahaha
[20:56] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> look at ur pm !
[20:59] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hello ?
[21:00] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> booleancat: check ur pm
[21:00] <mx-tvt> hey... does kubuntu offer any patch to get kde4-window-decorator working with kde4-nightly?
[21:17] <solid_liq> !ping
[21:17] <Walzmyn> !ping-right
[21:22] <amaro> alguem fala portugues?
[21:27] <amaro> ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuu BRASIIILL  kd o link?
[21:27] <m4v> !br
[21:27] <dr_willis> !pt
[21:30] <alex13outros> boa noite!
[21:30] <amaro> fala aew alex
[21:31] <uga> amaro: please no portuguese/brasileiro here
[21:34] <alex13outros> é posivel atualizar kubuntu 8.04 para 8.10?
[21:35] <uga> !br | alex13outros
[21:35] <uga> !br | amaro
[21:35] <uga> sigh, I hope they know reading their own language at least =)
[21:35] <alex13outros> Obrigado
[21:36] <dr_willis> !redneck
[21:36] <dr_willis> No #kubuntu-redneck :)
[21:36] <dr_willis> i recall years ago the redhat installer had a 'redneck' language option.  aparently it was a test-case/example that accidently got included in the releae. :)
[21:36] <uga> sure people loved that
[21:37] <uga> add-on love on redhat
[21:45] <amaro> messenger for linux?
[21:45] <Tm_T> !kopete | amaro
[21:47] <amaro> thank you!
[21:48] <ScottG489> Hey, I've been using gde for a while but I just installed kde to try it out. All the text is way too large though. Could someone help?
[21:49] <dr_willis> You can set the fonts in the control panel settings areas I recall.
[21:49] <joshua24> why is it when i stick a cd it does not even see it? using KDE 4.2 beta
[21:49] <ScottG489> how do i find that?
[21:52] <joshua24> !Pidgin
[22:00] <romain_> hi
[22:00] <booleancat> There any canadians in here (other than |zac|-sk|8|er- )?
[22:01] <romain_> j ai besoin d aide
[22:01] <booleancat> romain_: Is that a yes, to me?
[22:01] <romain_> i want know my ip
[22:02] <booleancat> 93.6.78.218
[22:02] <romain_> for a ssh
[22:02] <booleancat> that's your ip for whatever you want
[22:02] <romain_> yes but putty say is not correct
[22:03] <booleancat> If you are behind a NAT, all bets are off
[22:03] <romain_> i have a router
[22:04] <booleancat> you need to configure it to correctly forward port 22 to the computer you want
[22:05] <romain_> when i make localhost ip it s ok
[22:05] <romain_> but 93.6.78.218 no
[22:06] <romain_> i have do ifconfig
[22:06] <booleancat> romain_: Are you french?
[22:06] <romain_> oui
[22:06] <booleancat> !fr
[22:07] <romain_> thanks
[22:07] <ScottG489> was i talking in kubuntu or kde before?
[22:09] <booleancat> you're welcome
[22:10] <wesley> whats the best way to read and write on the same hd in linux and osx ?
[22:14] <wallabee> i wanna be able to put videos from my cellphone (MP4) on my computer to watch. Im able to view the video but not the audio for any of these mp4 movies. Can anyone tell me how i can watch these with audio by a codec etc. or conversion????
[22:14] <wesley> aha hfs can not be written in
[22:15] <cb_> hello
[22:16] <IppatsuMan> !medibuntu | wallabee
[22:19] <wallabee> IppatsuMan: are the instructions for adding the repositories for Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex the same for Kubuntu of the same version or do i need to change something??
[22:21] <IppatsuMan> wallabee: the instruction are exactly the same for both kubuntu and ubuntu
[22:21] <MaxMahem> wallabee: I'm not sure how those instructions work for ubuntu, but the general idea is the same.
[22:21] <MaxMahem> add a new depository to your sources list, and get the packages.
[22:29] <skande> hello all
[22:30] <skande> please can u help me
[22:30] <wallabee> I get the following after  http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1306070adding the source list and trying to add the GPG :
[22:31] <dr_willis> !ask
[22:32] <wallabee> sorry that was when trying to add the GPG i get : http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1306070
[22:33] <wallabee> asking something about the cd-rom?
[22:35] <IppatsuMan> wallabee: you should remove Kubuntu's cd rom as registered repository, you can do this using adept, or removing the corresponding line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:43] <KomiaPoika> how can i watch a 8GB hdtv .ts file?
[22:44] <dr_willis> .ts ? Hmm
[22:44] <dr_willis> try vlc/mplayer?
[22:46] <jonasfa> Hello everybody... How can I start an "guest session" on KDE?
[22:46] <dr_willis> Not a guest session thing in the user switcher applet? or is that a gnome only feature?
[22:47] <ubuntu_> ciao
[22:47] <ubuntu> ciao
[22:47] <KomiaPoika> dr_willis: mplayer does it, thx
[22:47] <jonasfa> i can't see any "guest session" option on the switch user dialog :/
[22:47] <dr_willis> jonasfa,  you did use kdm to login with?
[22:47] <torkiano> jonasfa: it will be implemented in next release: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntyGapAnalysis
[22:48] <dr_willis> ahh. :) there ya go.. heh
[22:48] <dr_willis> gnome only for now it seems
[22:48] <jonasfa> not even through command line?
[22:48] <dr_willis> You could just make a guest user with the password of guest :)
[22:48] <jonasfa> i'm using GDM as login manager
[22:49] <dr_willis> i find that when using gdm to login to KDE and kDM to login into Gnome - often some settings/features change. like the logout options and so forth
[22:49] <jonasfa> well.. i'll wait for jaunty so... :)
[22:49] <jonasfa> thank you all
[22:50] <wesley> is there a filesystem in linux that osx can read and write ?
[22:51] <dr_willis> Osx can read/write ext2/3 i thought
[22:51] <dr_willis> You may want to ask in a OS-X channel
[22:52] <dr_willis> but they will proberly ask 'whats this filesystem voodoo of which you speak? and what does it have to do with elegant eyecandy?'
[22:52] <dr_willis> :P
[22:53] <KomiaPoika> wesley: #macosx
[22:54] <wesley> dr_willis osx reads my external hd but not my inyternal ones
[22:54] <kniolet> OS X cant read/write ext3
[22:55] <kniolet> only the mac fs (HPFS iirc) and windows FAT and NTFS ones
[22:55] <wesley> so i yhough maby theres one that not only for linux ( i was thinking about jfs ?
[22:55] <kniolet> fs support is mac os sucks imho
[22:55] <wesley> so ntfs works under osx ?
[22:55] <kniolet> pretty sure
[22:56] <wesley> i though i could use ext3 with ext2fs
[22:56] <kniolet> though ntfs in linux can be kinda sketchy
[22:56] <pedrogarcia> olá alguem fala portugues
[22:56] <wallabee> I still have a problem: after installing the w32codecs im still unable to have any audio while watching mp4 files from the cellphone.  Dragon player and others play the video fine just no audio.  VLC player i get the following:
[22:56] <wallabee> No suitable decoder module:
[22:56] <wallabee> VLC does not support the audio or video format "samr". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[22:56] <IppatsuMan> !pt | pedrogarcia
[22:59] <wallabee> Is there a player or a codec i can get for this "samr" it mentions. If not can i convert this?  I dont think it should be that difficult to watch an mp4 video if my cell phone can play it my computer definately should be able to.
[23:04] <IppatsuMan> wallabee: try installing the package amrnb from medibuntu and playing it with mplayer
[23:04] <wallabee> IppatsuMan: Thank you for the advice .. will try
[23:05] <IppatsuMan> wallabee: a quite fast method to install proprietary codecs and other useful (but non free as in speech) stuff is installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:06] <IppatsuMan> it will install almost anything for mp3, divx, dvd, proprietary audio and video codecs, java, common microsoft fonts, adobe flash and so on
[23:07] <wallabee> IppastsuMan: thank you again. lol. that was my first try before i started searching for another solution
[23:08] <benzss> does anyone know if it's possible to back up ktorrent?
[23:14] <romain_> what is the server for frensh please?
[23:14] <wallabee> IppatsuMan: thanks using the amr lib and mplayer seemed to work perfect thanks for the advice
[23:14] <KomiaPoika> romain_: #kubuntu-fr
[23:14] <IppatsuMan> wallabee: you're welcome :)
[23:14] <romain_> thanks
[23:32] <Szadek> hello everyone , ist there any webcam aplication in kde4/qt4 ??
[23:33] <Szadek> is*
[23:33] <torkiano> Szadek: kopete?
[23:34] <Szadek> im not searching that , i want to take phots e make movies using my webcam , right now im using cheese , but it has some problem , the photos and videos have too much brightness , and im on kde4 , im looking for something similar but better integrated with the gui
[23:35] <KomiaPoika> Szadek: use gimp to tune your photo's brightness
[23:35] <Szadek> and the videos ?
[23:39] <downhill_> any way to get the old Adept (2.0) installed and working again? 3 sucks for a number of reasons and KPackage isn't ready yet...
[23:39] <downhill_> on Kubuntu 8.10 that is
[23:45] <ahmos> hi how i can mount my cd rom please?
[23:47] <downhill_> ahmos; should just be able to click it from Dolphin and it'll auto-mount.
[23:47] <ahmos> it doesn't
[23:48] <downhill_> did you remove some packages from your system or something?
[23:48] <ahmos> frankly i have changed some settings in disk & filesystem
[23:49] <downhill_> such as...
[23:49] <ahmos> i choosed type iso9660 - cd-rom
[23:49] <ahmos> mounted in /media/cdrom0
[23:50] <ahmos> device /dev/sdc
[23:50] <downhill_> could you please paste the contents of /etc/fstab into a pastebin, editing out anything sensitive (such as usernames and passwords)?
[23:50] <downhill_> pastebin -> www.slexy.org
[23:52] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[23:52] <downhill_> same diff.
[23:52] <ahmos> http://slexy.org/view/s2EL43kgnn
[23:53] <downhill_> thanks
[23:53] <tyutin> anyone know of any drive encryption software that supports pre-boot auth?
[23:53] <ahmos> :)
[23:53] <downhill_> ahmos; hmm, it *does* say "user" for the mount options. you *should* be able to. does dmesg say anything relevant?
[23:54] <downhill_> ooooh
[23:54] <downhill_> ahmos; take out "noauto" from your ODD's line (/dev/scd0)
[23:54] <ahmos> ok
[23:54] <downhill_> or rather, change it to "auto"
[23:55] <downhill_> that'll fix it.
[23:56] <dr_willis> auto/noauto makes the device auto-mount at boot up..
[23:56] <dr_willis> it has nothing to do with automounting on disk inserted
[23:56] <downhill_> really?
[23:56] <downhill_> I thought it mattered for both.
[23:57] <dr_willis> Nope.
[23:58] <dr_willis> mount -a --> reads the auto/noauto
[23:58] <ahmos> i noticed that some partitions are listed twice is that normal?
[23:58] <dr_willis> fstab does not controll 'mounting on the fly' of devices.. thats HAL's job. if i recall right.
[23:58] <downhill_> hmmmmm