[00:02] <gmb> wgrant: It might amuse you to know that our favourite spammer asked to have his accounts reactivated the other day, much to my amusement.
[00:03] <Hobbsee> hahaha, nice.
[00:04] <wgrant> gmb: Haha.
[00:04] <wgrant> Wonderful.
[00:04] <Hobbsee> gmb: how did you manage to diplomatically reply to that?  :)
[00:04] <wgrant> I remember he filed lots of questions after his first two accounts were really properly disabled asking why.
[00:05] <gmb> Hobbsee: I didn't; I left that for mrevell. I couldn't have managed to not responed with "AHAHAHAHANo."
[00:05] <wgrant> mrevell is useful for that sort of thing.
[00:05] <Hobbsee> hahahaha
[00:05] <Hobbsee> gmb: that's what I suspected :)
[11:55] <andrea-bs> Hello! demo.launchpad.net gives me 503 (Service Temporary Unavailable)
[11:59] <wgrant> andrea-bs: I think I heard that demo is gone for the time being.
[11:59] <wgrant> andrea-bs: Use staging instead, I suppose.
[11:59] <andrea-bs> wgrant: demo.lp.net is the only that sends mails :(
[13:51] <extrakrisp> hi, I was wondering if the launchpad project itself (the application which powers launchpad.net) is open source, and if so, where can the sources be gotten and development tracked?
[13:55] <persia> extrakrisp, Best answer is "not yet".  There was a presentation in December indicating that large portions of LP should be open-sourcing progressively over the first half of 2009.
[13:57] <extrakrisp> ah, and is there any URL on dedicated mailing list which allows one to be kept up to date on the progress of this effort?
[13:57] <extrakrisp> or*
[13:58] <persia> I'd guess launchpad-users, but that's only a guess.
[13:58] <extrakrisp> ok, thanks a bunch!
[13:58] <thekorn_> there is also a usefull wiki page https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing
[13:59] <wgrant> July 21 is the big day.
[14:03] <persia> 24 February is the interesting date for me.  Key in so many ways.
[14:03] <extrakrisp> ah, very cool
[14:03] <extrakrisp> the wiki is exactly what i was looking for
[14:04] <extrakrisp> thanks folks, thats exactly what I was interested in :)
[14:04] <extrakrisp> happy coding
[14:06] <tcr> I just saw that you can set up mailinglist with launchpad; can you also subscribe such a mailing list to the bug tracker?
[14:07] <persia> tcr, Yes.  What you cannot do is allow people who are not members of your team to subscribe to the mailing list.  The admin interface also isn't ideal.  Other than that, they do just about anything you would expect from a mailing list.
[14:09] <tcr> persia: My final goal is to make the mailing list available through gmane as a read-only group.
[14:09] <tcr> Has anyone done that before?
[14:13] <persia> Dunno if anyone did it, but LP MLs are uniquely suitable because it's really hard to subscribe.
[14:16] <tcr> uniquely suitable?
[14:16] <tcr> I think I'll add a feature request for gmane support. And ask for advice what scenario deems the developers best.
[14:27] <tcr> The issue is available for comments under https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/57072
[14:27] <bebraw> how can i cancel a VCS import? i figured out a way to handle it manually
[14:27] <bebraw> can i just delete my trunk somehow and start anew?
[14:28] <Goundy> bebraw I got same problem before and just asked an admin and he kicked it out for me :)
[14:29] <bebraw> Goundy, cool. :) i come from svn background so getting in grips with bzr takes a while. the concept is neat though :)
[14:29] <Goundy> bebraw I came from svn also... and to be honnest I feel like svn is a crap compared to bazaar ^^
[14:30] <bebraw> Goundy, any idea how to find an admin?
[14:31] <Goundy> well I asked on this channel :/
[14:31] <Goundy> how admins ! show up !
[14:38] <LarstiQ> heya bebraw
[14:38] <bebraw> heya LarstiQ :)
[14:54] <mok0> Please remind me, what is the generic form of your personal LP page? (something with +me?)
[14:55] <persia> mok0, Yes, +me
[14:56] <persia> e.g. https://launchpad.net/+me/+archive
[14:57] <Nafallo> ~person ?
[14:57] <mok0> persia: hm, clicking on that gets me a 404
[14:57] <Nafallo> i.e. https://launchpad.net/~nafallo/+archive for example.
[14:58] <mok0> Nafallo: yes, but I would like the generic form for documentation purposes, so anyone clicking the link would get his/her own LP page
[14:59] <Nafallo> oh. didn't know there was one :-)
[15:00] <wgrant> /people/+me
[15:00] <mok0> wgrant, that worked! Thanks!
[15:01] <Nafallo> haha. kewl.
[15:01] <wgrant> np
[15:13] <vadi2> I'm having a small issue with "bzr commit --fixes lp:#". It links to the bug report, but does not set status to fix released.
[15:14] <vadi2> I'm not sure why, and I didn't find any launchpad page for this feature (just read it off an interview)
[15:28] <wgrant> vadi2: It's not intended that it will close the bug, and there are good reasons for this.
[15:29] <wgrant> You need to close the bug manually.
[15:30] <wgrant> I would explain further if it wasn't 2:30am.
[15:31] <Nafallo> wgrant: it isn't.
[15:31] <Nafallo> Sun Jan 11 15:31:05 GMT 2009
[15:31] <Nafallo> ;-)
[15:32]  * wgrant sends Nafallo to the corner.
[15:32] <Nafallo> hehe
[15:32] <wgrant> (the corner of .au)
[15:32] <Nafallo> ooooh
[15:32] <Nafallo> yes please.
[15:32] <Nafallo> you live there!
[15:32] <wgrant> Gah.
[15:32] <wgrant> I do.
[15:32] <Nafallo> hehe
[15:33] <Nafallo> and it should be warm this time of year :-)
[15:33] <wgrant> It'll be rather too warm later today, IIRC.
[15:33] <Nafallo> there is no such thing as "too warm" ;-)
[15:34] <wgrant> Where by later today I mean tomorrow.
[15:34] <wgrant> 38C isn't too warm?
[15:35] <Nafallo> nope
[15:35] <Nafallo> almost a bit cold
[15:35] <wgrant> It doesn't get cold here :(
[15:51] <vadi2> well, that's unfortunate
[15:55] <Sebastian> Can I delete https://launchpad.net/php-object-freezer/couchdb somehow?
[19:04] <Gjergj_Sheldija> hi, can i ask for some help regarding packages in launchpad ?
[19:11] <Adri2000> Gjergj_Sheldija: ask your question
[19:11] <f4> Gjergj_Sheldija, I think you should just ask you'd have more answers :)
[19:12] <Gjergj_Sheldija> how to i delete erroneous branches i created in lauchpad ?
[19:12] <Gjergj_Sheldija> and start importing the correct one from sourceforge
[19:18] <idnar> so, I had a bug with an associated branch, and I merged the branch into trunk (which is my "development focus"); should this not be reflected on the bug report in some way?
[19:20] <idnar> I sort of expected it to change to status "Fix Committed"
[19:22] <nhandler> idnar: I believe it won't mark it as Fix Committed unless the bzr commit was marked as fixing the LP bug
[19:22] <nhandler> I think there is a --fixes flag for bzr
[19:22] <idnar> I used --fixes lp:1234246
[19:23] <idnar> and once I pushed the branch to launchpad, it was automatically associated with the bug, which is fine
[19:24] <idnar> maybe the problem is that I didn't repeat --fixes when I committed the merge?
[19:27] <LarstiQ> iirc bzr --fixes support in launchpad isn't done yet
[19:29] <idnar> okay
[19:29] <idnar> I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something I was supposed to do, really
[19:38] <Bit_Breaker> hello
[20:13] <thumper> morning
[20:13] <thumper> LarstiQ: --fixes will create a link between the branch and the bug, but it doesn't yet change the status of the bug task
[20:19] <lunatech> page says " Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.  "  ---->  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~drizzle-developers/drizzle/development/revision/784
[20:21] <thumper> :(
[20:21] <thumper> I'll poke an admin
[20:22] <thumper> LOSA even
[21:02] <djsiegel2> Launchpad peeps, we did a Launchpad shoutout on the new GNOME Do homepage: http://do.davebsd.com/development.shtml
[21:17] <lunatech> thanks thumper
[21:17] <lunatech> works now
[21:18] <thumper> cool
[21:18]  * thumper looks
[21:18] <thumper> djsiegel2: nic
[21:18] <thumper> e
[21:19] <djsiegel2> gracias
[21:19] <djsiegel2> thank you for LP!
[22:23] <FAJALOU> hi i have am trying to upload a package to my ppa.... I have a .dsc, .orig.tar.gz, .build, .diff.gz and .tar.bz2, how can (and what) do i need to upload? THANKS!
[22:23] <RAOF> FAJALOU: The .source :)
[22:23] <FAJALOU> hmmm ;)
[22:23] <mok0> _source.changes
[22:23] <FAJALOU> i have no idea what iam doing :((( lol.
[22:23] <RAOF> This can be built by running 'debuild -S' in the extracted package directory.
[22:24] <FAJALOU> ah ok
[22:24] <RAOF> mok0: Ok, if you want to be actually _correct_, then yes :)
[22:24] <mok0> he
[22:24] <mok0> I do
[22:24] <FAJALOU> and how can i upload it RAOF ?
[22:25] <FAJALOU> (is it ok if debsign failed?
[22:25] <mok0> no debsign needs to suceed
[22:25] <FAJALOU> :( lol
[22:26] <persia> Most common error with debsign failing is that the latest entry in the changelog isn't an exact match for the Name, Comment, and email address of one of the identities on the GPG key.
[22:26] <FAJALOU> debuild:  fatal error at line 150:
[22:26] <FAJALOU> Oh ok....
[22:27] <FAJALOU> that makes sens, what to do then?
[22:27] <ScottK> -k<KeyID>
[22:27] <persia> No, just fix the changelog to match.
[22:27] <ScottK> OK.  That too.
[22:27] <persia> -k is like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer
[22:27] <FAJALOU> o are you flipping kidding me!
[22:27] <FAJALOU> gra
[22:28] <FAJALOU> i did this all on my laptop; i am now on my desktop...
[22:28] <FAJALOU> ok i will do this later...
[22:29] <FAJALOU> thanks
[22:29] <persia> Best practice is to have a mapping between keys and identities, rather than a mapping between keys and computers.
[22:30] <FAJALOU> ?
[22:31] <mok0> FAJALOU: change top changelog entry to be signed by you
[22:31] <FAJALOU> mok0: even if the key is on a diff. computer?
[22:32] <mok0> FAJALOU: you should use an ID which is also in your gpg key
[22:32] <FAJALOU> and in what file should I change it?
[22:32] <mok0> FAJALOU: debian/changelog
[22:33] <FAJALOU> is there a way to dll my key from the internet?  i have the url for my key for my ppa
[22:34] <mok0> FAJALOU: you need your secret key which is not on the internet, but in ~/.gnupg
[22:34] <FAJALOU> ?
[22:35] <FAJALOU> mok0: but it is a different key than my key online.... the one i used to sign my ppa...
[22:35] <mok0> FAJALOU: you need your signing key on the machine you are working on
[22:36] <FAJALOU> mok0: ok, it has nothing to do w/ the internet?
[22:36] <mok0> FAJALOU: no
[22:36] <FAJALOU> ah ok
[22:37] <mok0> FAJALOU: ... but your public key may be on the internet
[22:37] <mok0> FAJALOU: on a key server
[22:38] <FAJALOU> how can i figure out my 'passphrase'
[22:38] <FAJALOU> isn't that my pw?
[22:38] <mok0> FAJALOU: no, that's what you defined when you created your key pair
[22:38] <FAJALOU> ...... hmm...... can i find it if i have seahorse open?
[22:38] <mok0> FAJALOU: if you've forgotten it, you're toast
[22:39] <mok0> FAJALOU: Not even the CIA could recover it :-)
[22:39] <FAJALOU> i never remember setting a passphrase
[22:40] <mok0> FAJALOU: you have to
[22:41] <FAJALOU> hehe
[22:41] <FAJALOU> yah for randomly typing in password until you find the right one :D
[22:41] <mok0> good luck :-)
[22:41] <FAJALOU> yay!
[22:41] <FAJALOU> it worked :DDDD
[22:42] <FAJALOU> ok so now i have .source.build
[22:42] <FAJALOU> and .source.changes ...
[22:42] <FAJALOU> so where to from here ?  I have tried following the forum stuff, but it confuzzled me.
[22:42] <FAJALOU> dput the .changes?
[22:42] <mok0> FAJALOU: have you set up your ~/.dput.cf file?
[22:42] <FAJALOU> yes
[22:42] <mok0> FAJALOU: then go
[22:42] <FAJALOU> well 'yes' ;)
[22:43] <mok0> dput xxx ...source_changes
[22:43] <FAJALOU> xxx?
[22:43] <FAJALOU> and isn't it source.changes ??
[22:43] <mok0> FAJALOU: whatever you've called your ppa in .dput.cf
[22:44] <mok0> dput ppa <changesfile>
[22:44] <mok0> dput myppa <changesfile>
[22:44] <mok0> or whatever
[22:45] <FAJALOU> with tilde?
[22:45] <mok0> eerrr... no
[22:46] <FAJALOU> incoming = ~cunninghamlouis/ubuntu/            No host cunninghamlouis found in config
[22:46] <FAJALOU> ?
[22:47] <mok0> FAJALOU: can you pastebin your .dput.cf file?
[22:53] <FAJALOU1> sorry mok0
[22:53] <FAJALOU1> froze up
[22:53] <mok0> np
[22:53] <FAJALOU1> ok so did you get the incoming=   and the no host thing?
[22:54] <mok0> FAJALOU1: the first line in the entry has brackets around it
[22:54] <mok0> right?
[22:55] <FAJALOU1> which line?
[22:55] <FAJALOU1> the my ppa?
[22:55] <mok0> FAJALOU1: look here: http://pastebin.com/f57671e5b
[22:56] <FAJALOU1> mine says my-ppa
[22:57] <mok0> FAJALOU1: then you use "dput my-ppa changesfile
[22:57] <FAJALOU1> ok
[22:57] <FAJALOU1> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[22:57] <FAJALOU1> i thought i was supposed to put in my name thing ;)
[22:57] <mok0> ah
[22:58] <FAJALOU1> ok it _says_ that it installed it
[22:58] <FAJALOU1> how long does it take to show up?
[22:59] <mok0> FAJALOU1: 5-10 minutes
[22:59] <FAJALOU1> ok.
[22:59] <FAJALOU1> so can i just retrace my steps here?
[22:59] <mok0> yes
[22:59] <FAJALOU1> first you do dh-make ...... right?  and then .......
[23:00] <mok0> mmm
[23:01] <FAJALOU1> ?
[23:01] <FAJALOU1> i guess first you dll the source, and un pack it.
[23:01] <FAJALOU1> and then ?
[23:02] <mok0> dh_make gives you templates for debian/
[23:02] <FAJALOU1> ohk?
[23:03] <mok0> yes
[23:04] <FAJALOU1> so after you extract, then dh_make ..........  then the command you gave me?
[23:05] <FAJALOU1> debuild -S -k<key>
[23:05] <FAJALOU1> and then dput my-ppa <path to .dsc>
[23:05] <FAJALOU1> ?
[23:06] <mok0> FAJALOU1: well, yes, after you've edited all the files in debian/
[23:06] <FAJALOU1> edit files?
[23:07] <FAJALOU1> https://launchpad.net/~cunninghamlouis/+archive
[23:07] <FAJALOU1> i refreshed... is there anything in it?
[23:07] <mok0> no
[23:08] <FAJALOU1> this is bad?
[23:08] <mok0> you'll get a mail from lp saying if the upload was accepted or rejected
[23:09] <FAJALOU1> ah ok
[23:09] <FAJALOU1> for dh_make i used dh_make -e <email>
[23:13] <FAJALOU1> http://pastebin.com/f110baab
[23:13] <FAJALOU1> does that look right?
[23:13] <FAJALOU1> oops. that has numbers in it :|
[23:14] <mok0> FAJALOU1: no, you need to customize the files dh_make has created. They are only templates
[23:14] <FAJALOU1> oh..... i didn't do that ...
[23:14] <FAJALOU1> does it matter?
[23:15] <oojah> FAJALOU1: Very much so :)
[23:15] <FAJALOU1> grar
[23:15] <FAJALOU1> i didn't do it on this one...
[23:16] <oojah> FAJALOU1: Try reading through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete - it's quite a lot to take in but it does cover just about all you need.
[23:16] <FAJALOU1> oojah: that is where i took most of the info i found... but even that was too much ;)
[23:17] <mok0> FAJALOU1: you have work to do
[23:17] <FAJALOU1> yah...... :( i don't have time...
[23:18] <mok0> you need time
[23:18] <FAJALOU1> very much so
[23:20] <FAJALOU1> there's no automated way to do this all?
[23:21] <FAJALOU1> and where should i put a [needs packaging] ticket?
[23:21] <FAJALOU1> in ubuntu bugs?
[23:26] <oojah> FAJALOU1: Yes, in ubuntu
[23:27] <oojah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[23:27] <FAJALOU1> ok that's what it thought ;) thanks oojah
[23:29] <oojah> no problem
[23:33] <FAJALOU1> ok thank you all for your work.  have a good night
[23:47] <RAOF> Argh.  Can someone have a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~do-testers/+archive/+build/833678 to verify that there's nothing that I've crazily overlooked?  I *have* gnome-do 0.7.95.1 in that PPA!