[02:51] <judgen> Is it possible to use kde3 in jaunty
[04:21] <DanaG> Argh, my fingerprint reader seems to have gone MIA.
[04:22] <DanaG> I know there's no Linux driver.... but now it's even missing from lsusb.
[06:22] <lucent> DanaG: your device might be in conflict with EHCI-HCD module
[07:05] <DanaG> Oh, the thing is broken even in Windows.
[07:05] <DanaG> Probably a hardware issue.
[09:06] <enyc> where may i find daily/testing images of jaunty ?  -- or must i just use alpha-2 ?
[09:06] <enyc> (cd images)
[11:41] <MadsRH> I haven't yet tested any of the Alpha releases, but can anyone tell me if there's been any progress with cutting down boot speed?
[11:47] <xanax`> hello
[11:49] <xanax`> will Ubuntu Jaunty have ext4 by default (thanks to the kernel 2.6.28) ?
[12:16] <spitfire_> xanax`: No.
[12:16] <spitfire_> I doubt 9.10 will do.
[12:16] <xanax`> :-(
[12:16] <spitfire_> But devs consider is as default in 9.10
[12:16] <spitfire_> But you CAN use it iin 9.04
[12:16] <spitfire_> It's just not default.
[12:17] <spitfire_> You can use it if you want.
[12:17] <spitfire_> It's there.
[12:17] <spitfire_> But I wouldn't recommend it.
[12:17] <spitfire_> Better try reiserfs.
[12:40] <danboid> Will EXT4 be an option to install 9.04 with or will there be no EXT4 support in the installer until 9.10 or later?
[12:43] <danboid> ie will I be able to install jaunty straight to ext4, at least with the alt installer
[12:45] <adam7> danboid: to quote from the scrollback
[12:46] <adam7> No / I doubt 9.10 will do / :-( / But devs consider it as default in 9.10 / But you CAN use it iin 9.04
[12:52] <danboid> adam7: Cool its already in Jaunty is it? I not asking if it'll be the DEFAULT in jaunty- of course it won't
[12:53] <danboid> anyone here tried it? Does it shorten boot time noticeably?
[12:53] <adam7> danboid: I have no idea, but a couple of people were talking about it 30 minutes before you joined so I just quoted them for you :)
[12:53] <danboid> oh right! :)
[12:53] <danboid> EXT4 is the new cool thing obviously :)
[15:33] <tretle> hi, my sound has stopped working on jaunty and I was wondering whether this was a common problem?
[15:41] <funkyHat> conduit in jaunty depends on scrollkeeper... is scrollkeeper going to be installed in jaunty instead of rarian?
[15:42] <funkyHat> (i'm trying to install conduit 0.3.15 in intrepid to see if a bug is still present and it's depending on scrollkeeper)
[15:43] <funkyHat> My guess is it's a dependancy error by whoever packaged conduit for jaunty, I thought here might be the best place to ask
[15:43] <bhale> is there a way to make network manager ignore the vmware bridge interfaces - unchecking Connect Automatically will not persist
[15:57] <albert23> funkyHat: rarian provides scrollkeeper, so there shouldn't be a problem with that dependency
[16:03] <Grapz> histo, I'm having problems getting sound in Totem and Rhythmbox using Pulseaudio. I get sound when I use gstreamer-properties and press 'test', or when I use gst-launch-0.10 playbin, but not when playing videos in Totem
[16:05] <Grapz> and why can't i find the option to remove auto-completion of nicks in X-Chat Gnome :p
[16:22] <IdleOne> Grapz: Settings>Prefferences>Input Box and uncheck the approriate box
[17:41] <funkyHat> albert23: ah, in intrepid it doesn't 'provides' only 'replaces', is there a difference?
[17:44] <albert23> funkyHat: yes, there is a big difference. But also in Intrepid, rarian-compat provides scrollkeeper
[17:44] <funkyHat> albert23: oh yeah, was looking at the wrong list!
[17:44] <albert23> and rarian-compat is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[17:45] <funkyHat> albert23: yeah that's the reason I was having an issue with installing conduit
[17:46] <funkyHat> It wanted to install scrollkeeper, so it was trying to remove rarian-compat and therefore ubuntu-desktop, so I thought something must be up
[17:47] <funkyHat> I'll try installing it with dpkg instead of gdebi
[17:47] <albert23> funkyHat: Well, that is strange. As rarian-compat provides scrollkeeper, the system should not want to install scrollkeeper
[17:48] <funkyHat> albert23: worked fine when I installed using dpkg, looks like a gdebi bug
[17:49] <albert23> funkyHat: that may be worth to report on LP
[17:50] <funkyHat> Yep will do
[17:51] <funkyHat> Looks like it's already reported #192939
[17:51] <mnemo> my sound has stopped working in jaunty all the sudden... when I play stuff in totem I see the visualizer plugin running but there is no sound... how can I debug this futher (rule out problems) so that I can file a good bug on it?
[17:51] <funkyHat> Oh no it
[17:51] <funkyHat> 's not
[17:53] <charlie-tca> mnemo: this seemed to work yesterday; asamixer -Dhw:0  and see if unmuting stuff helps
[17:56] <mnemo> thanks thats a good idea
[17:56] <mnemo> didnt help though
[17:56] <mnemo> i unmuted everything and increased all the volumes... nothing
[17:57] <mnemo> card is an intel hda Realtek ALC889A btw
[17:59] <Alexia_Death> mnemo: it should work for you aswell
[17:59] <Alexia_Death> mnemo: do you have multiple sound cards?
[18:00] <mnemo> nope just this one (its built-in to the motherboard)
[18:00] <mnemo> it worked out of the box on intrepid and also on jaunty while it still had the .27 kernel
[18:01] <Alexia_Death> mnemo: do aplay -l
[18:01] <mnemo> the kernel module seems properly loaded as well -> http://rafb.net/p/Izyxz228.html
[18:01] <Alexia_Death> and tel me what you get.
[18:01] <mnemo> http://rafb.net/p/fPT1yS88.html
[18:03] <mnemo> even if there is two sub devices that no problem right?
[18:43] <Alexia_Death> mnemo: can I see your screenhot of alsamixer
[18:44] <Alexia_Death> ?
[18:49] <Durandal> Can someone help me? After I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, the login screen goes white and freezes
[18:51] <mnemo> Alexia_Death: http://mnemo.minimum.se/Screenshot.png
[18:52] <Durandal> is there anyway to downgrade from 8.10 back to 8.04?
[18:53] <Alexia_Death> mnemo: hmmm.... no extra clues. sometimes devices have some switches or alike... perhaps theres a mute shomewhere in pulseaudio side?
[18:54] <mnemo> just running "alsamixer" with no params also has all levers on max and no MM mutes
[18:55] <Alexia_Death> see what pulseaui control shows?
[18:56] <mnemo> Alexia_Death: where can I find that?
[18:56] <spitfire_> Alexia_Death: alsamixer Dhw
[18:56] <Alexia_Death> click on the volume icon?
[18:56] <spitfire_> mnemo: rather pavucontrol
[18:57] <mnemo> Alexia_Death: it has changed in jaunty
[18:57] <Alexia_Death> yes. thees a button
[18:57] <spitfire_> mnemo: run pavucontrol
[18:57] <mnemo> ok
[18:58] <mnemo> I can see the output device playing inside pavucontrol
[18:59] <spitfire_> mnemo: alsamixer -Dhw
[19:00] <Alexia_Death> spitfire_: his alsamixers controlls are unmuted
[19:00] <mnemo> doh, sorry guys I screwed up big time
[19:00] <Alexia_Death> totem?
[19:00] <mnemo> I got the mic and output cables switched
[19:00] <Alexia_Death> LOL
[19:00] <mnemo> omg sorry for wasting your time
[19:00] <mnemo> thanks a bunch for helping out though
[19:01]  * mnemo blushes
[19:01] <Alexia_Death> ;)
[19:07] <Durandal> Can someone help me? I get a frozen login screen after upgrading to 8.10, I used ALT+CTRL+F1 to get to the terminal and get this error:
[19:08] <Durandal> usplash: setting mode 1152x864 failed
[19:08] <Durandal> usplash: using mode 1024x768
[19:09] <spitfire_> usplash doesn't have anything tp do with gdm
[19:10] <Durandal> so, is there another way to get past the frozen white screen?
[19:11] <Alexia_Death> Durandal: what graphics driver you use?
[19:12] <Durandal> I'm not sure, how can I find out?
[19:14] <TheInfinity> hmm. wrong channel?
[19:14] <TheInfinity> and: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:15] <ikonia> Durandal: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[19:15] <ikonia> Durandal: this channel is for jaunty development talk only
[19:15] <ikonia> Durandal: #ubuntu is the correct support channel
[19:18] <Durandal> I'm using 8.10. what version is jaunty?
[19:18] <bhale> 9.04
[19:18] <ikonia> Durandal: #ubuntu is the correct channel please
[20:13] <I_Am> lo
[20:13] <I_Am> i get an error when trying to upgrade to jaunty
[20:13] <I_Am> http://fpaste.org/paste/1175
[20:26] <spitfire_> I_Am: clean install is always a better way
[20:27] <I_Am> i know but i'd like to try an update
[20:27] <I_Am> its my testing machine
[20:31] <legodude> update worked fine for me
[20:32] <Alexia_Death> Ive been doing updates for ages:P
[20:32] <Alexia_Death> This machine was installed as edgy
[20:33] <Alexia_Death> all have worked, half of them have been to alphas and needed some trick in the process...
[20:40] <spitfire_> efghi
[20:40] <spitfire_> lol 5
[20:40] <spitfire_> 4
[20:52] <ikonia> ?
[21:02] <Melik> Version: 180.22 << is that the latest nvidia drivers?
[21:06] <Alexia_Death> Melik: yes
[21:07] <Melik> Alexia_Death, have you tried it? Can you confirm if they work with new xorg?
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> I havent tried .22
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> 180 kernel module does not buld for 2.6.27
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> err
[21:08] <Alexia_Death> 2.6.28
[21:08] <Alexia_Death> builds for .27
[21:08] <Alexia_Death> with .27 kernel it can be loaded with ignoreABI true, but its not stable
[21:09] <Melik> ah i see, thanks mate
[21:13] <Alexia_Death> Melik: as a side issue, nv driver was causing issues in kernel for .27.
[21:14] <Melik> man i did a really dumb thing :/
[21:14] <Melik> i upgraded my REAL ubuntu partition to jaunty
[21:16] <Alexia_Death> Melik: I do that habbitually. im a masochist :P
[21:16] <Melik> haha
[21:16] <Melik> all i know is its a pain to be in 800 x 600 :(
[21:17] <Melik> everything is so HUGE
[21:18] <Alexia_Death> Melik: use nv
[21:18] <Alexia_Death> all but 3d should be ok
[21:19] <Melik> eh, i think im going to go ahead and just wait for the new nvidia drivers
[21:20] <DomiX> hi
[21:20] <Melik> all i know is, i'm not quite font of the new sound preferences thing
[21:20] <DomiX> why should I do '/etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset' to have sound?
[21:21] <ikonia> DomiX: to load the settings you saved ?
[21:21] <Melik> so i just use alsamixer -Dhw
[21:23] <DomiX> ikonia: no
[21:24] <DomiX> ikonia: I didn't touched anything about alsa, only updating via update manager
[21:24] <Alexia_Death> DomiX: theres a bug in the latest alsa_utils
[21:25] <DomiX> Alexia_Death: ok thx
[21:33] <DanaG> argh, the new audio thing is not a good replacement for the old gnome volume control.
[21:33] <DanaG> The old one gave all real device mixer controls; the new one does not.
[21:34] <DanaG> The new one also doesn't do what it claims to, which is to supersede pavucontrol.
[21:34] <DanaG> Unless I can route different apps to different devices... the gnome thingy fails.
[21:38] <Alexia_Death> Id love pulse audio if it worked perfectly
[21:42] <DanaG> Anyone know where to get a nice, high-quality Ubuntu sticker?  I want one that looks just as modern as the Vista one, not one that looks like the old XP stickers.
[21:43] <DanaG> I'd like PulseAudio even more if it had an easy way to make it automatically bind certain HID devices to control the volume of certain audio devices.
[21:44] <DanaG> Right now, I have that, but it's not automatic.
[21:44] <DanaG> I had to create a hal fdi file, a udev rule, AND add a manual load-module command.
[22:48] <DanaG> argharargasdfasdf
[22:48] <DanaG> argh, keyboard lag, that was.
[22:48] <DanaG> argh, new udev doesn't create a /dev/input/by-id for anything.
[22:53] <DanaG> ... and no /dev/input/by-path for my usb device.
[22:57] <DanaG> udevinfo: command not found
[23:12] <andersk> apport reporting seems broken.  It opens Firefox with a URL that starts file:///ubuntu/+source/package/+filebug/...
[23:21] <DanaG>   24.4% (1132.2)   USB device  6-1 : USB Audio ()
[23:21] <DanaG> wow, that's a lot of wakeups, isn't it?