[02:51] Is it possible to use kde3 in jaunty [04:21] Argh, my fingerprint reader seems to have gone MIA. [04:22] I know there's no Linux driver.... but now it's even missing from lsusb. [06:22] DanaG: your device might be in conflict with EHCI-HCD module [07:05] Oh, the thing is broken even in Windows. [07:05] Probably a hardware issue. [09:06] where may i find daily/testing images of jaunty ? -- or must i just use alpha-2 ? [09:06] (cd images) [11:41] I haven't yet tested any of the Alpha releases, but can anyone tell me if there's been any progress with cutting down boot speed? [11:47] hello [11:49] will Ubuntu Jaunty have ext4 by default (thanks to the kernel 2.6.28) ? [12:16] xanax`: No. [12:16] I doubt 9.10 will do. [12:16] :-( [12:16] But devs consider is as default in 9.10 [12:16] But you CAN use it iin 9.04 [12:16] It's just not default. [12:17] You can use it if you want. [12:17] It's there. [12:17] But I wouldn't recommend it. [12:17] Better try reiserfs. [12:40] Will EXT4 be an option to install 9.04 with or will there be no EXT4 support in the installer until 9.10 or later? [12:43] ie will I be able to install jaunty straight to ext4, at least with the alt installer [12:45] danboid: to quote from the scrollback [12:46] No / I doubt 9.10 will do / :-( / But devs consider it as default in 9.10 / But you CAN use it iin 9.04 [12:52] adam7: Cool its already in Jaunty is it? I not asking if it'll be the DEFAULT in jaunty- of course it won't [12:53] anyone here tried it? Does it shorten boot time noticeably? [12:53] danboid: I have no idea, but a couple of people were talking about it 30 minutes before you joined so I just quoted them for you :) [12:53] oh right! :) [12:53] EXT4 is the new cool thing obviously :) === elkbuntu is now known as elkeee === elkeee is now known as elkbuntu === unavailable is now known as space_cadet [15:33] hi, my sound has stopped working on jaunty and I was wondering whether this was a common problem? [15:41] conduit in jaunty depends on scrollkeeper... is scrollkeeper going to be installed in jaunty instead of rarian? [15:42] (i'm trying to install conduit 0.3.15 in intrepid to see if a bug is still present and it's depending on scrollkeeper) [15:43] My guess is it's a dependancy error by whoever packaged conduit for jaunty, I thought here might be the best place to ask [15:43] is there a way to make network manager ignore the vmware bridge interfaces - unchecking Connect Automatically will not persist [15:57] funkyHat: rarian provides scrollkeeper, so there shouldn't be a problem with that dependency [16:03] histo, I'm having problems getting sound in Totem and Rhythmbox using Pulseaudio. I get sound when I use gstreamer-properties and press 'test', or when I use gst-launch-0.10 playbin, but not when playing videos in Totem [16:05] and why can't i find the option to remove auto-completion of nicks in X-Chat Gnome :p [16:22] Grapz: Settings>Prefferences>Input Box and uncheck the approriate box === cwillu_ is now known as cwillu [17:41] albert23: ah, in intrepid it doesn't 'provides' only 'replaces', is there a difference? [17:44] funkyHat: yes, there is a big difference. But also in Intrepid, rarian-compat provides scrollkeeper [17:44] albert23: oh yeah, was looking at the wrong list! [17:44] and rarian-compat is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop [17:45] albert23: yeah that's the reason I was having an issue with installing conduit [17:46] It wanted to install scrollkeeper, so it was trying to remove rarian-compat and therefore ubuntu-desktop, so I thought something must be up [17:47] I'll try installing it with dpkg instead of gdebi [17:47] funkyHat: Well, that is strange. As rarian-compat provides scrollkeeper, the system should not want to install scrollkeeper [17:48] albert23: worked fine when I installed using dpkg, looks like a gdebi bug [17:49] funkyHat: that may be worth to report on LP [17:50] Yep will do [17:51] Looks like it's already reported #192939 [17:51] my sound has stopped working in jaunty all the sudden... when I play stuff in totem I see the visualizer plugin running but there is no sound... how can I debug this futher (rule out problems) so that I can file a good bug on it? [17:51] Oh no it [17:51] 's not [17:53] mnemo: this seemed to work yesterday; asamixer -Dhw:0 and see if unmuting stuff helps [17:56] thanks thats a good idea [17:56] didnt help though [17:56] i unmuted everything and increased all the volumes... nothing [17:57] card is an intel hda Realtek ALC889A btw [17:59] mnemo: it should work for you aswell [17:59] mnemo: do you have multiple sound cards? [18:00] nope just this one (its built-in to the motherboard) [18:00] it worked out of the box on intrepid and also on jaunty while it still had the .27 kernel [18:01] mnemo: do aplay -l [18:01] the kernel module seems properly loaded as well -> http://rafb.net/p/Izyxz228.html [18:01] and tel me what you get. [18:01] http://rafb.net/p/fPT1yS88.html [18:03] even if there is two sub devices that no problem right? [18:43] mnemo: can I see your screenhot of alsamixer [18:44] ? [18:49] Can someone help me? After I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, the login screen goes white and freezes [18:51] Alexia_Death: http://mnemo.minimum.se/Screenshot.png [18:52] is there anyway to downgrade from 8.10 back to 8.04? [18:53] mnemo: hmmm.... no extra clues. sometimes devices have some switches or alike... perhaps theres a mute shomewhere in pulseaudio side? [18:54] just running "alsamixer" with no params also has all levers on max and no MM mutes [18:55] see what pulseaui control shows? [18:56] Alexia_Death: where can I find that? [18:56] Alexia_Death: alsamixer Dhw [18:56] click on the volume icon? [18:56] mnemo: rather pavucontrol [18:57] Alexia_Death: it has changed in jaunty [18:57] yes. thees a button [18:57] mnemo: run pavucontrol [18:57] ok [18:58] I can see the output device playing inside pavucontrol [18:59] mnemo: alsamixer -Dhw [19:00] spitfire_: his alsamixers controlls are unmuted [19:00] doh, sorry guys I screwed up big time [19:00] totem? [19:00] I got the mic and output cables switched [19:00] LOL [19:00] omg sorry for wasting your time [19:00] thanks a bunch for helping out though [19:01] * mnemo blushes [19:01] ;) [19:07] Can someone help me? I get a frozen login screen after upgrading to 8.10, I used ALT+CTRL+F1 to get to the terminal and get this error: [19:08] usplash: setting mode 1152x864 failed [19:08] usplash: using mode 1024x768 [19:09] usplash doesn't have anything tp do with gdm [19:10] so, is there another way to get past the frozen white screen? [19:11] Durandal: what graphics driver you use? [19:12] I'm not sure, how can I find out? [19:14] hmm. wrong channel? [19:14] and: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log [19:15] Durandal: what version of ubuntu are you using ? [19:15] Durandal: this channel is for jaunty development talk only [19:15] Durandal: #ubuntu is the correct support channel [19:18] I'm using 8.10. what version is jaunty? [19:18] 9.04 [19:18] Durandal: #ubuntu is the correct channel please [20:13] lo [20:13] i get an error when trying to upgrade to jaunty [20:13] http://fpaste.org/paste/1175 [20:26] I_Am: clean install is always a better way [20:27] i know but i'd like to try an update [20:27] its my testing machine [20:31] update worked fine for me [20:32] Ive been doing updates for ages:P [20:32] This machine was installed as edgy [20:33] all have worked, half of them have been to alphas and needed some trick in the process... [20:40] efghi [20:40] lol 5 [20:40] 4 [20:52] ? [21:02] Version: 180.22 << is that the latest nvidia drivers? [21:06] Melik: yes [21:07] Alexia_Death, have you tried it? Can you confirm if they work with new xorg? [21:07] I havent tried .22 [21:07] 180 kernel module does not buld for 2.6.27 [21:07] err [21:08] 2.6.28 [21:08] builds for .27 [21:08] with .27 kernel it can be loaded with ignoreABI true, but its not stable [21:09] ah i see, thanks mate [21:13] Melik: as a side issue, nv driver was causing issues in kernel for .27. [21:14] man i did a really dumb thing :/ [21:14] i upgraded my REAL ubuntu partition to jaunty [21:16] Melik: I do that habbitually. im a masochist :P [21:16] haha [21:16] all i know is its a pain to be in 800 x 600 :( [21:17] everything is so HUGE [21:18] Melik: use nv [21:18] all but 3d should be ok [21:19] eh, i think im going to go ahead and just wait for the new nvidia drivers [21:20] hi [21:20] all i know is, i'm not quite font of the new sound preferences thing [21:20] why should I do '/etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset' to have sound? [21:21] DomiX: to load the settings you saved ? [21:21] so i just use alsamixer -Dhw [21:23] ikonia: no [21:24] ikonia: I didn't touched anything about alsa, only updating via update manager [21:24] DomiX: theres a bug in the latest alsa_utils [21:25] Alexia_Death: ok thx [21:33] argh, the new audio thing is not a good replacement for the old gnome volume control. [21:33] The old one gave all real device mixer controls; the new one does not. [21:34] The new one also doesn't do what it claims to, which is to supersede pavucontrol. [21:34] Unless I can route different apps to different devices... the gnome thingy fails. [21:38] Id love pulse audio if it worked perfectly [21:42] Anyone know where to get a nice, high-quality Ubuntu sticker? I want one that looks just as modern as the Vista one, not one that looks like the old XP stickers. [21:43] I'd like PulseAudio even more if it had an easy way to make it automatically bind certain HID devices to control the volume of certain audio devices. [21:44] Right now, I have that, but it's not automatic. [21:44] I had to create a hal fdi file, a udev rule, AND add a manual load-module command. [22:48] argharargasdfasdf [22:48] argh, keyboard lag, that was. [22:48] argh, new udev doesn't create a /dev/input/by-id for anything. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:53] ... and no /dev/input/by-path for my usb device. [22:57] udevinfo: command not found === boomer` is now known as boomer [23:12] apport reporting seems broken. It opens Firefox with a URL that starts file:///ubuntu/+source/package/+filebug/... [23:21] 24.4% (1132.2) USB device 6-1 : USB Audio () [23:21] wow, that's a lot of wakeups, isn't it?