| asac | true | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | unfortunately my new build donkey seems to be sick ... cc crashes during xul build :( | 00:05 |
| asac | my guess is bad mem | 00:05 |
| asac | i dont get why sbuild doesnt work oob | 00:16 |
| asac | i think i had a good setup ... but then cc crashed :( | 00:16 |
| fta | any particular place? not enough memory? | 00:17 |
| asac | should be enough | 00:17 |
| asac | 2G | 00:17 |
| fta | for xul yes | 00:18 |
| asac | yah. its not really production ;) | 00:18 |
| fta | providing something else is not using it | 00:18 |
| asac | want to try what i want | 00:18 |
| asac | i think i had problems with APIC | 00:19 |
| asac | had crashes in mkinitrd stuff | 00:19 |
| asac | its now off | 00:19 |
| fta | smells bad | 00:19 |
| asac | yeah | 00:20 |
| asac | lets see if pbuilder makes its way through | 00:20 |
| asac | if not i give up and dump this shit ;) | 00:20 |
| asac | (hardware) | 00:21 |
| asac | ok lets see ... soon we'll know | 00:21 |
| fta | oh, a new gcc 4.2 just arrived | 00:23 |
| fta | gasp, no mouse | 00:26 |
| fta | they upgraded udev | 00:26 |
| fta | i guess i should not delay the reboot any longer | 00:27 |
| fta | :( | 00:27 |
| fta | grr, my eth interface jumped from eth0 to eth1 | 00:38 |
| asac | hehe | 00:43 |
| asac | NM would work then ;) | 00:43 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/103337/ :( | 00:49 |
| asac | i think i have to do a memcheck or something | 00:49 |
| asac | trying hardy pbuilder too | 00:50 |
| fta | if it always dies at the same place, it may not be your memory | 00:51 |
| asac | not the same place, but always in js/ so far ;) | 00:53 |
| asac | so pretty quick | 00:53 |
| asac | also thats intrepid | 00:53 |
| asac | cant be that broken :) | 00:53 |
| fta | asac, build with CC="gcc -v -save-temps" and pray ;) | 00:55 |
| fta | prey | 00:55 |
| fta | well | 00:55 |
| asac | same place but on hardy | 00:58 |
| asac | strange but certainly not cc fault then | 00:58 |
| * asac wonderes whether he enabled power-speed mode in bios by accident | 00:58 | |
| asac | too bad that there is no GPU in there now :( | 00:59 |
| fta | bug 315916 | 01:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 315916 in xft "Tabs and links lose antialiasing in Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315916 | 01:01 |
| asac | ok off for now | 01:10 |
| fta | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035355 | 01:26 |
| dolske | fta: is http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/mozcentral-commits.png yours? that's mozilla-central commits per day? | 02:03 |
| fta | dolske, yes, yes | 02:03 |
| dolske | interesting. | 02:03 |
| * dolske guesses the big spikes line up with the betas. :) | 02:04 | |
| fta | 2007-08-21 142 | 02:05 |
| fta | 2007-11-06 140 | 02:05 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fabrice_sp | Hi. Fixing a bug in an extension package, I found that line in install file: | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | debian/mozilla-noscript.js usr/share/iceweasel/greprefs/ | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | Should it be debian/mozilla-noscript.js usr/share/firefox/greprefs/ for us? | 05:43 |
| fabrice_sp | or with Firefox 3, it should go in another place? | 05:44 |
| AnAnt | Hello, is there a way to provide an alternate firefox homepage URL ? There used to be a firefox-homepage alternate in Hardy I think | 08:27 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: is that a file the user wants to configure? | 10:34 |
| asac | hmm latest ati driver somehow brought back "corruption" of tiled backgrounds when running XAA | 10:37 |
| fabrice_sp | this is the content of this file: pref("extensions.{73a6fe31-595d-460b-a920-fcc0f8843232}.update.enabled", false); | 10:37 |
| asac | AnAnt: are you in hardy? | 10:37 |
| fabrice_sp | so it's a user configuration (no update of the plugin) | 10:38 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: you can ignore that | 10:38 |
| asac | (safely) | 10:38 |
| asac | alternatively you can add that info to the install.rdf | 10:38 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: its a global config probably previously used to prevent updates of the extension | 10:38 |
| fabrice_sp | ok. So I'll delete the installation and the link, then | 10:38 |
| fabrice_sp | thanks | 10:39 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: is that extension also installed for iceape/seamonkey? | 10:40 |
| fabrice_sp | seamonkey, yes | 10:41 |
| fabrice_sp | asac, it's mozilla-noscript | 10:41 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: you might want to keep it for that then ... but not for ffox | 10:42 |
| AnAnt | asac: no, intrepid | 10:43 |
| fabrice_sp | asac, this script in not used for iceape/seamonkey. Only for iceweasel (in this install file). | 10:45 |
| fabrice_sp | fyi, I'm working on bug #260955 | 10:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 260955 in mozilla-noscript "noscript does not work for seamonkey" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260955 | 10:46 |
| fabrice_sp | and it's because at some point, a merger forgot to change iceape reference to seamonkey in links, postrm and postinst files | 10:48 |
| asac | sorry reconnect | 10:48 |
| asac | 11:48 < fabrice_sp> and it's because at some point, a merger forgot to change iceape reference to seamonkey in links, postrm and postinst files | 10:48 |
| asac | 11:48 < asac> fabrice_sp: ok. i would suggest to drop it. its for ffox 2 anyway (judging from path) | 10:49 |
| asac | yeah. i would suggest that you fix the saemonkey stuff and leave the rest alone then ;) | 10:49 |
| asac | if you want you can cleanup stuff and remove all /usr/share/firefox/ /usr/lib/firefox/ stuff | 10:49 |
| asac | but well | 10:50 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: where is the extension installed to? | 10:50 |
| fabrice_sp | usr/share/mozilla-extensions | 10:50 |
| AnAnt | asac: no, I am using intrepid now | 10:50 |
| fabrice_sp | and links is done with usr/lib/firefox-addons so it sounds good | 10:51 |
| asac | 11:46 < asac> AnAnt: then look at that file ;) | 10:51 |
| asac | AnAnt: /usr/share/doc/ubufox/example-homepage.properties ... that is an example and explains how to enable the example | 10:51 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: yeah. but where are the links installed to? | 10:51 |
| asac | firefox-addons? | 10:51 |
| fabrice_sp | usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/{73a6fe31-595d-460b-a920-fcc0f8843232} | 10:52 |
| asac | kk | 10:52 |
| fabrice_sp | so it's ok, right? | 10:52 |
| asac | all fine then | 10:52 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: are there still references to usr/lib/firefox/ ` | 10:52 |
| asac | ? | 10:52 |
| asac | e.g. links et al? | 10:52 |
| fabrice_sp | I haven't seen any, but I'll check again | 10:53 |
| fabrice_sp | no, none | 10:53 |
| asac | jcastro: gwibber looses blogs when you send during reconnect (while being offiline) ... guess thats known? | 10:54 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: yes its ok. just dont push anything to /usr/lib/firefox/... (e.g. like the greprefs thing) | 10:54 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 10:54 |
| fabrice_sp | anyway, I will attach my debdiff to the bug report, so you will be able to verify it's ok | 10:55 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: thanks. let us know when you attached so we can look more timely; also ask Jazzva for review too (in case i am not here) | 10:56 |
| fabrice_sp | ok. Thanks for your answer and your time! | 10:57 |
| asac | welcome | 10:57 |
| asac | *sigh* my connection feels shaky again | 10:57 |
| asac | i *hate* my provider again | 10:57 |
| fabrice_sp | I have the same feeling... (at least one drop per hour... :-( ) | 11:04 |
| fabrice_sp | I've just subscribed mozillateam to Bug #260955, so it's up to you | 11:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 260955 in mozilla-noscript "noscript does not work for seamonkey" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260955 | 11:05 |
| fabrice_sp | by the way, How to you succed in not loosing any comments? | 11:05 |
| asac | in bug tracker? | 11:05 |
| fabrice_sp | no, in irc | 11:07 |
| fabrice_sp | when I get connection inestability, I loose 15 minutes each time | 11:07 |
| asac | this reconnect was strange | 11:07 |
| asac | it was really quick (e.g. i received a message in the same minute where my irssi reconnected) | 11:08 |
| asac | usually it takes ~4min for irssi to reconnect | 11:08 |
| AnAnt | asac: I don't get it, how can that be an alternative that can be used by a package ? | 11:08 |
| asac | but i notice it earlier | 11:08 |
| asac | and /reconnect ;) | 11:08 |
| asac | AnAnt: its not an alternative. its how you configure it as an admin | 11:09 |
| fabrice_sp | I really thought you knew some trick :-) | 11:11 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: why does it take 15 minutes for you? | 11:11 |
| asac | the physical reconnect takes 1 minute or less here | 11:11 |
| asac | its just that irssi doesnt notice phyiscal connects and waits for timeouts | 11:11 |
| fabrice_sp | don't know: I'm using xchat, and I have gap of 15 minutes. | 11:12 |
| fabrice_sp | Sounds like some kind of itmeout to fix | 11:12 |
| asac | fabrice_sp: dont you notice that you are disconnected? | 11:12 |
| asac | cant you force xchat to reconnect? | 11:12 |
| AnAnt | asac: doesn't work | 11:13 |
| fabrice_sp | yes I can, but as I am doing other things, I almost never notice that I got disconnected | 11:13 |
| asac | AnAnt: what doesnt work? | 11:13 |
| fabrice_sp | sorry for this OT :-) | 11:13 |
| asac | yeah. then probably a timeout thing | 11:13 |
| asac | no problem ;) | 11:13 |
| AnAnt | asac: oops, sorry | 11:14 |
| asac | the example should work ;) | 11:15 |
| AnAnt | asac: ok, I done this, copied /etc/firefox-3.0/pref/ubufox.js to /etc/firefox-3.0/pref/my.js | 11:17 |
| AnAnt | asac: and I uncommented the pref("browser.startup.homepage...) line in my.js | 11:17 |
| AnAnt | but that didn't work | 11:17 |
| asac | yeah | 11:17 |
| AnAnt | it worked when I uncommented it in ubufox.js | 11:17 |
| asac | AnAnt: disable ubufox in tools -> addons ... restart; i guess your my.js is used then? | 11:18 |
| AnAnt | yup, that worked, but why ? | 11:19 |
| asac | because ubufox overloads the homepage pref. so your pref isnt used | 11:19 |
| asac | so what a package would have to do is somewhat ugly (the current system had admins in mind) | 11:19 |
| asac | place a .js in /usr/share/ubufox/defaults/preferences/ | 11:20 |
| AnAnt | and ? | 11:20 |
| asac | and in /usr/firefox-3.0/pref/my.js | 11:20 |
| asac | take care that the link you place in /usr/share/ubufox/defaults/preferences/ is read first (lex ordered) | 11:21 |
| asac | the aaa_* stuff is a hack that allows admins to configure stuff even though ubufox is installed | 11:21 |
| asac | i dont really see why packages would want to set the homepage though | 11:22 |
| asac | whats the use-case? | 11:22 |
| asac | is that an extension= | 11:22 |
| asac | ? | 11:22 |
| AnAnt | asac: nope, a distro based on Ubuntu | 11:22 |
| asac | AnAnt: so you binary copy our files and just add new ones? | 11:22 |
| asac | AnAnt: otherwise i would suggest to main ubufox downstream | 11:23 |
| asac | its easy to track as all is in bzr. | 11:23 |
| asac | so you just doa bzr merge ... | 11:23 |
| asac | then add a new changelog entry on top and push that to your distro | 11:23 |
| asac | s/main/maintain/ | 11:23 |
| AnAnt | hmmm | 11:24 |
| asac | maintaining a diff for xul or firefox wouldnt be a good idea | 11:24 |
| asac | too much work unless you have someone dedicated doing ffox/xul security updates | 11:24 |
| asac | but ubufox should be simple and doesnt receive many stable -updates or even -security stuff | 11:24 |
| AnAnt | hmmm, I prefer that .js solution | 11:25 |
| asac | soudns rogue | 11:25 |
| AnAnt | so I should place the my.js in /usr/share/ubufox/defaults/preferences/ ? | 11:25 |
| asac | anyway | 11:25 |
| AnAnt | rogue=bad ? | 11:26 |
| asac | AnAnt: yes, but name it 300$DISTRO_NAME-homepage.js in there | 11:26 |
| AnAnt | ok | 11:27 |
| asac | its important that admins can still overrule that by editing the /etc/firefox-3.0/ preferences | 11:27 |
| asac | AnAnt: ^^ | 11:27 |
| asac | test that the example still works | 11:27 |
| asac | if it does then all is fine | 11:27 |
| asac | AnAnt: not really bad, but not really nice either ;) | 11:27 |
| AnAnt | you mean /etc/firefox-3.0/pref/firefox.js ? | 11:29 |
| asac | AnAnt: like what the example says | 11:30 |
| asac | if that example still works all is fine | 11:30 |
| AnAnt | ok | 11:30 |
| AnAnt | works ! | 11:32 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 11:32 |
| asac | welcome ... | 11:32 |
| asac | AnAnt: why is maintaining a diff of ubufox too much? | 11:32 |
| asac | (just curious) | 11:32 |
| AnAnt | asac: because I am trying to make the distro in Ubuntu repos | 11:33 |
| asac | AnAnt: what distro is that? | 11:34 |
| AnAnt | asac: ubuntume | 11:34 |
| asac | what purpose? | 11:34 |
| asac | e.g. focus? | 11:34 |
| AnAnt | it adds some software that muslims would need | 11:35 |
| asac | i would suggest to take a different name. ubuntu is a trademark after all ;) | 11:36 |
| asac | anyway. good | 11:36 |
| asac | AnAnt: do you use GNOME? | 11:36 |
| AnAnt | asac: yup | 11:36 |
| asac | AnAnt: do you change /etc/lsb-release or is there some other way to identify your distro at runtime? | 11:37 |
| AnAnt | no, I don't change /etc/lsb-release | 11:38 |
| AnAnt | except for the default artwork & installation, I don't think there's another way to identify distro at runtime | 11:38 |
| asac | k | 11:39 |
| asac | i think you should adjust lsb-release and file bugs if that causes issues | 11:39 |
| asac | you should be able to use a different CODENAME at least | 11:40 |
| asac | e.g. jaunty-me | 11:40 |
| AnAnt | what issues do you mean? | 11:41 |
| asac | i would file bugs if i knew about issues | 11:41 |
| asac | not sure. maybe some software relies on some value in there | 11:41 |
| asac | but i hope not | 11:41 |
| asac | rely==if its changed it breaks | 11:41 |
| AnAnt | asac: ok, how does ubufox does the following: when the machine is offline, it displays a local homepage | 11:44 |
| asac | AnAnt: it has a startpage that tries to get the homepage and if it doesnt succeed in a few seconds it forces local page | 11:45 |
| AnAnt | in /usr/share/ubufox/chrome/ubufox.jar ? | 11:48 |
| AnAnt | aha, found it | 11:50 |
| asac | AnAnt: i would suggest to use the bzr branch | 11:52 |
| asac | and maiintain your own ubufox | 11:55 |
| asac | use a different name | 11:55 |
| asac | OTOH i could understand if you dont want to put work into that | 11:55 |
| asac | if ubufox needs more hooks or features let me know ;) | 11:55 |
| asac | grrrr | 11:58 |
| asac | reconnect again ;) | 11:58 |
| asac | 12:50 < AnAnt> aha, found it | 11:58 |
| asac | 12:52 < asac> AnAnt: i would suggest to use the bzr branch | 11:59 |
| asac | 12:53 < asac> and maiintain your own ubufox | 11:59 |
| asac | 12:53 < asac> use a different name | 11:59 |
| asac | 12:54 < asac> OTOH i could understand if you dont want to put work into that | 11:59 |
| asac | 12:54 < asac> if ubufox needs more hooks or features let me know ;) | 11:59 |
| AnAnt | yeah, I got those , thanks | 12:01 |
| AnAnt | asac: this startpage.html doesn't work except from inside a jar file ? | 12:21 |
| AnAnt | asac: I tried to make a start page similar to ubufox's startpage.html | 12:46 |
| AnAnt | I got this when I load it though: Permission denied to get property XPCComponents.classes | 12:47 |
| asac | sec | 12:48 |
| asac | AnAnt: it needs to be chrome | 12:49 |
| asac | so in jar would help | 12:49 |
| asac | amazing | 12:52 |
| asac | 64 bytes from fx-in-f104.google.com (74.125.39.104): icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=5460 ms | 12:53 |
| asac | massive provider suckage | 12:53 |
| === rZr is now known as RzR | ||
| asac | @time | 13:03 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: January 11 2009, 13:03:16 - Next meeting: Server Team in 2 days | 13:03 |
| AnAnt | asac: ok, how does chrome://ubufox point to /usr/share/ubufox/chrome/ubufox.jar ? | 13:04 |
| asac | fta: http://identi.ca/notice/1775229 | 13:04 |
| asac | AnAnt: what do you want to change? | 13:04 |
| AnAnt | asac: I want to make a chrome://ubuntume for example | 13:05 |
| AnAnt | brb | 13:05 |
| asac | AnAnt: you need to main your own ubufox then ;) ... thats what i am telling you | 13:05 |
| asac | i am gone now for a while too ;) (3 hours i guess) | 13:05 |
| asac | AnAnt: ls -l /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html | 13:09 |
| asac | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2008-03-13 18:21 /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage | 13:09 |
| asac | so seems like it uses the firefox-homepage alternative for the OFFLINE page still | 13:10 |
| asac | give it a try | 13:10 |
| AnAnt | asac: I tried that alternative,but it doesn't work | 13:29 |
| white | asac: how is xulrunner coming along? :) | 13:31 |
| asac | AnAnt: ls -l /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales | 13:32 |
| asac | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2008-03-13 18:21 /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage-locales | 13:32 |
| asac | you need that i think | 13:32 |
| AnAnt | asac: would that work even if ubufox is in use ? | 13:33 |
| asac | AnAnt: thats used for OFFLINE case | 13:33 |
| asac | AnAnt: online case is still as discussed before | 13:34 |
| asac | if a locale is not found it will fall back to the other alternative | 13:34 |
| asac | AnAnt: thats the code that figures the offline page: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103520/ | 13:35 |
| AnAnt | yes, I saw it in startpage.html | 13:35 |
| AnAnt | but I don't think that the firefox-homepage is used anymore | 13:36 |
| AnAnt | it used to work for a while, until ubufox was here | 13:36 |
| AnAnt | what I see, is that homepage is set to startpage.html | 13:37 |
| AnAnt | and startpage.html contains the URLs for both ONLINE & OFFLINE pages | 13:37 |
| AnAnt | hence there is no use for firefox-homepage nor firefox-homepage-locales | 13:37 |
| asac | AnAnt: its used as the final fallback | 13:39 |
| asac | e.g. not ONLINE + locale doesnt exist in /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage-locales pointed directory | 13:39 |
| asac | if both happen the firefox-homepage is used | 13:39 |
| asac | AnAnt: OFFLINE page points to /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales ... if you want to put something else there you can repoint that | 13:39 |
| asac | otherwise you need to fork ubuntu-docs package i guess | 13:40 |
| AnAnt | I see | 13:41 |
| fta | asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1030693 | 13:43 |
| asac | fta: asked something | 13:47 |
| white | asac: seen http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-0071 yet? | 13:56 |
| fta | asac, http://identi.ca/fta | 14:28 |
| jcastro | asac: I don't think that's a known bug (the gwibber one), can you report it? | 15:56 |
| fta | jcastro, is there a doc for the syntax of messages? I'm new to this so i'm not sure how to refer to people, tags, add urls, etc.. | 16:06 |
| jcastro | fta: yeah, people are @name and tags are #tags. | 16:07 |
| jcastro | that's about it | 16:07 |
| fta | jcastro, and url? | 16:08 |
| jcastro | you just dump them in there | 16:08 |
| jcastro | there is a preference for autoshortening them | 16:08 |
| jcastro | you probably want that enabled | 16:08 |
| jcastro | fta: I follow a bunch of OSS people if you want to start off with a list: http://identi.ca/jorge | 16:09 |
| fta | jcastro, yep, saw that, 340+ subscriptions! aren't you flooded by messages? | 16:12 |
| jcastro | I kinda keep gwibber on the end of a 2nd monitor, so I don't really pay attention to each message, I let it just flow by | 16:12 |
| jcastro | once in a while I check the replies to see if someone is messaging me directly | 16:12 |
| jcastro | people ebb and flow with posting though so it's not so bad | 16:13 |
| === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| fta | jcastro, would be nice if Gwibber was able to register itself in the gnome session so it starts automatically on login | 16:48 |
| jcastro | yeah that would be nice | 16:53 |
| jcastro | ryan is always busy with stuff though, it only recently got translations and things like that | 16:53 |
| jcastro | but it's coming along | 16:53 |
| asac | fta: cool ... cany ou use #ubuntumozilla for mozillateam stuff? | 17:08 |
| asac | hopefully we can assemble some kind of report for team more easily from that :) | 17:08 |
| asac | jcastro: to start it in session is just a .desktop file | 17:09 |
| asac | jcastro: you could do that ;) | 17:09 |
| asac | jcastro: look at /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop | 17:10 |
| asac | ship something similar for gwibber in package and ask upstream to do that on make install too ;) | 17:10 |
| fta | cool, liferea should do that too | 17:11 |
| fta | maybe xchat too | 17:11 |
| asac | fta: yep. | 17:12 |
| asac | fta: i think it can be disbled by default ... in that way users can just enable it by flagging it in preferences -> sessions | 17:12 |
| asac | so it should definitlyb e shipped ... whether enabled/or disabled by default depends on whether users start complaining ;) | 17:13 |
| asac | @time | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Current time in Etc/UTC: January 11 2009, 17:14:21 - Next meeting: Server Team in 1 day | 17:14 |
| asac | (still here?) | 17:14 |
| asac | thanks ubottu | 17:14 |
| asac | my ping topped 4 seconds now | 17:15 |
| asac | again | 17:15 |
| asac | not sure if a router reset will help ... alredy did that 10 hours ago :( | 17:15 |
| * asac resets all net stuff again :( | 17:24 | |
| fta | asac, jcastro, my gwibber is broken, i keep getting http errors 401: unauthorized. any idea? | 17:26 |
| fta | started about 1 hour ago | 17:26 |
| fta | hm, maybe my refresh time is too fast | 17:27 |
| fta | asac, X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false | 17:28 |
| === cwillu_ is now known as cwillu | ||
| asac_ | hmm ... net seems a bit better now | 17:42 |
| asac_ | lets see how long that last | 17:42 |
| asac_ | s | 17:42 |
| white | asac_: how is xulrunner coming? Do you need anything? :) | 17:48 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | white: whats the currently released version? | 18:05 |
| asac | h? | 18:05 |
| asac | seems so | 18:06 |
| white | asac: 1.8.0.15~pre080614h-0etch1 | 18:07 |
| asac | fta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6533954&postcount=5 | 18:19 |
| asac | regression ;) | 18:20 |
| asac | xmaintainers probably blindly dropped the patch i added in hardy (or was it intrepid?) | 18:20 |
| asac | i think hardy even | 18:20 |
| asac | i dont understand why they think that Xaa is now fixed ;) | 18:21 |
| asac | this must have been done without much thinking ;) | 18:22 |
| asac | seems the offscreen patch became a victim of a patch cleanup | 18:28 |
| asac | seems they thought it was irrelevant | 18:28 |
| asac | wow | 18:29 |
| asac | seems like the xaa issue was fixed in debian before we found how to fix it ... we just didnt ship the patch | 18:29 |
| asac | now it was dropped again ... let me check whether its in debian or something | 18:29 |
| asac | !info xorg-server | 18:30 |
| ubottu | Package xorg-server does not exist in intrepid | 18:30 |
| asac | !source xorg-server | 18:30 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:30 |
| asac | !source xserver-xorg-dev | 18:30 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:30 |
| asac | !info xserver-xorg-dev | 18:30 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg-dev (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.5.2-2ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 818 kB, installed size 2212 kB | 18:30 |
| fta | !info xserver-xorg | 18:30 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg (source: xorg): the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.4~5ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 189 kB, installed size 648 kB | 18:30 |
| asac | launchpad doesnt know about the package :( | 18:30 |
| asac | there is a source package xorg-server | 18:30 |
| asac | but launchpad lies | 18:31 |
| fta | n | 18:31 |
| asac | and doesnt show it for whatever reason | 18:31 |
| asac | Source: xorg-server | 18:31 |
| asac | Section: x11 | 18:31 |
| asac | Priority: optional | 18:31 |
| fta | !info xorg | 18:31 |
| ubottu | xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.4~5ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB | 18:31 |
| asac | xorg-server (2:1.5.99.3-0ubuntu4) jaunty; urgency=low | 18:31 |
| asac | * 155_dix-don-t-set-the-child-window-for-non-virtual-Enter-Leave-events.patch | 18:31 |
| asac | + Fixes issue where mouse cursor in Firefox blinks when hovering over URLs. | 18:31 |
| asac | fta: its not xorg ;) | 18:31 |
| asac | see above ;) | 18:31 |
| asac | its definitly its own package | 18:31 |
| asac | ha ;) | 18:31 |
| asac | i always mistyped | 18:31 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server | 18:31 |
| asac | so it was killed in intrepid | 18:32 |
| asac | 2:1.4.99.905-0ubuntu1 | 18:32 |
| asac | seems rightfully as i didnt have the regression there | 18:32 |
| asac | and now upstream somehow flipped this option back | 18:32 |
| asac | what a mess | 18:33 |
| asac | looked at source ... they are again using XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps instead of XaaOffscreenPixmaps (which was the new one used) | 18:33 |
| fta | The following packages will be upgraded: libnspr4-0d libnss3-0d libnss3-1d libnss3-tools watershed <=== lol | 18:34 |
| asac | hehe | 18:35 |
| asac | yeah | 18:35 |
| asac | any problems? | 18:35 |
| asac | ;) | 18:35 |
| asac | i wait a bit for this to digest and then push all rdepends. if you want to take the universe ones let me know ;) | 18:35 |
| fta | why 3.12.2~rc1 ? is it still rc1 after so many months? | 18:36 |
| asac | not sure ... thats what i have here ;) | 18:36 |
| asac | we can go on from there | 18:36 |
| asac | nss-3.12.tar.gz17-Jun-2008 17:36 NickServ 4.9M | 18:37 |
| asac | there is no 3.12.2 @ http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/ | 18:38 |
| asac | i will ask kaie | 18:38 |
| asac | tomorr | 18:38 |
| asac | (if i remember) | 18:38 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/103603/ | 18:39 |
| asac | so seems like | 18:39 |
| asac | no RTM there | 18:39 |
| asac | probably they undergo some certifications and want to wait until they get thumbs up from there | 18:39 |
| asac | bug 316136 | 18:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316136 in xorg-server "Xaa Offscreen Pixmaps regression" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316136 | 18:48 |
| asac | good stuff ... so nspr is built everywhere | 18:54 |
| asac | now lets wait till nss catches those armel and ia64 bits and then the rest can be done without bumping build-depends lower bounds i guess | 18:54 |
| fta | asac, no problem with ff3.2 after the upgrade | 19:13 |
| asac | cool | 19:13 |
| asac | though i think you already have that transition in your ppa ;) | 19:13 |
| asac | dont you? | 19:13 |
| asac | fta: check with ldd on firefox wehther it points to the versioned or not versioned nss/nspr | 19:13 |
| fta | yep | 19:14 |
| asac | yeah still. i think all is fine | 19:14 |
| asac | i am using a bunch of stuff from the archive and had nss installed for quite a while | 19:14 |
| asac | never had any issue | 19:14 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/103617/ | 19:15 |
| asac | fta: lsof is for sure | 19:16 |
| asac | ldd is what i wonder abvout | 19:16 |
| asac | or make objdump -x /path/to/libxul.so | grep REQUIRE | 19:16 |
| asac | err NEEDED | 19:16 |
| asac | maybe you have xul 1.9.0.5 from the archive? you should see the versioned stuff there | 19:16 |
| asac | objdump -x /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.5/libxul.so | grep libnspr NEEDED libnspr4.so.0d | 19:16 |
| asac | but objdump -x /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1b2/libxul.so | grep libnsp NEEDED libnspr4.so | 19:17 |
| fta | fta@ix:~ $ ldd /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2a1pre/libxul.so | grep nss | 19:17 |
| fta | libnss3.so => /usr/lib/libnss3.so (0xb71ae000) | 19:17 |
| fta | libnssutil3.so => /usr/lib/libnssutil3.so (0xb7196000) | 19:17 |
| asac | yeah 1.9.2 only exists in your archive ;) | 19:17 |
| asac | NEEDED probably points to unversioned SONAME too | 19:17 |
| asac | and i use ffox 3.0 all the time ... so seems fine | 19:18 |
| fta | but it was build with an nss with a soname | 19:18 |
| asac | objdump -x /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.5/libxul.so | grep libnss NEEDED libnss3.so.1d NEEDED libnssutil3.so.1d required from libnssutil3.so.1d: required from libnss3.so.1d: | 19:18 |
| asac | fta: which 1.9.2? i doubt it | 19:18 |
| asac | you have that build in your ppa for quite some time | 19:18 |
| asac | good sign that you didnt notice ;) | 19:18 |
| asac | means it is a perfect transition ;) (so far) | 19:19 |
| fta | i reverted the nss change a while ago | 19:19 |
| fta | you just re-added it | 19:19 |
| asac | no | 19:19 |
| asac | it was in bzr for ages ;) | 19:19 |
| asac | i only baked a release today | 19:19 |
| fta | it was in bzr but i didn't update it in my ppa since you re-added it | 19:21 |
| asac | fta: i remember that i asked you to update it | 19:25 |
| asac | and you did it | 19:25 |
| asac | fta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20032831/nspr_4.7.3-0ubuntu1~fta1_4.7.3-0ubuntu1~fta2.diff.gz | 19:25 |
| asac | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20033108/nss_3.12.2~rc1-0ubuntu1~fta1_3.12.2~rc1-0ubuntu1~fta2.diff.gz | 19:26 |
| asac | those are definitl the builds with dropped soname patch | 19:26 |
| asac | but given that that was end of november i guess it can easily be forgotten ;) | 19:27 |
| asac | i wonder if anyone would risk to upgrade xulrunner from gutsy to latest :/ | 19:27 |
| asac | that would be ~15 releases at once | 19:28 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner | 19:28 |
| asac | !info xulrunner | 19:28 |
| ubottu | xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 279 kB, installed size 1020 kB | 19:28 |
| asac | !info xulrunner gutsy | 19:28 |
| ubottu | xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.4-2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 273 kB, installed size 980 kB | 19:28 |
| fta | * RELEASE 3.12.2~rc1-0ubuntu1~fta2 to jaunty/ppa | 19:28 |
| fta | - merge with nss.head #89 | 19:28 |
| fta | so you're right | 19:28 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 19:28 |
| asac | what matters is that now it has happened in real archive ;) | 19:28 |
| asac | hmm why is it still in jaunty? | 19:30 |
| asac | !info xulrunner jaunty | 19:30 |
| ubottu | xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 279 kB, installed size 1020 kB | 19:30 |
| asac | !info-rdepends xulrunner jaunty ;) | 19:30 |
| ubottu | xulrunner is not a valid distribution ['dapper', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid', 'intrepid-backports', 'jaunty', 'jaunty-backports', 'kde4-ppa', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'medibuntu', 'partner'] | 19:30 |
| asac | hmm eclipse | 19:31 |
| asac | libmozillainterfaces-java | 19:31 |
| asac | !info libmozillainterfaces-java | 19:32 |
| ubottu | libmozillainterfaces-java (source: xulrunner): XPCOM bindings for Java. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1299 kB, installed size 1692 kB | 19:32 |
| asac | ok thats from xulrunner | 19:32 |
| asac | !info libswt3.2-gtk-jni | 19:32 |
| ubottu | libswt3.2-gtk-jni (source: eclipse): Platform dependent files for libswt3.2-gtk-java. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-5ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 828 kB | 19:32 |
| asac | damn mobile-basic-flash still isnt built against xul 1.9 | 19:32 |
| asac | !info libswt3.2-gtk-jni | 19:32 |
| ubottu | libswt3.2-gtk-jni (source: eclipse): Platform dependent files for libswt3.2-gtk-java. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-5ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 828 kB | 19:32 |
| asac | !info mobile-basic-flash | 19:32 |
| ubottu | mobile-basic-flash (source: mobile-basic-flash): Home applet for Hildon. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.44-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 769 kB, installed size 1020 kB | 19:32 |
| asac | !info libjdic-bin | 19:33 |
| ubottu | libjdic-bin (source: libjdic-java): JDesktop Integration Components. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.0.20060613-8ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 52 kB, installed size 180 kB | 19:33 |
| asac | white: xul upload started. can you please check evolution if you have a native etch install? testing secure connections would be good | 20:07 |
| asac | will probably take 30 minutes or more to upload ;) | 20:07 |
| asac | so be patient | 20:07 |
| white | asac: i'll start testing with democracyplayer :) | 20:12 |
| asac | white: the more you test the better | 20:12 |
| asac | white: main prob with evo is that it cannot be run in my chroot here | 20:13 |
| asac | probably some dbus issues | 20:13 |
| asac | native install or VM helps for evo testing | 20:13 |
| asac | white: Successfully uploaded packages. | 20:31 |
| asac | Not running dinstall. | 20:31 |
| white | asac: cheers | 20:33 |
| fta | asac, why is our python-xpcom still using 1.8.1 and not 1.9++ ? | 21:05 |
| white | asac: http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/status/release/stable shows other CVEs supposedly unfixed but affecting current xulrunner. Did you have a look through them? | 21:09 |
| fta | jcastro, do you know if debian has an openkomodo package somewhere? I just see a RFP | 21:25 |
| jcastro | I can't find anything fta | 21:29 |
| fta | asac, oh, python-xpcom is part of xulrunner. damn, we should add it too | 21:29 |
| fta | jcastro, ok, thanks. | 21:29 |
| fta | jcastro, i may give it a try, if i have enough time and stamina to fix our python xpcom | 21:34 |
| jcastro | heh | 21:36 |
| jcastro | so hey, I think this microblogging thing is a good way to let people know what's going on | 21:37 |
| fta | jcastro, i don't want to announce things there before i even start working on them | 21:38 |
| fta | jcastro, and btw, my gwibber is still broken, unusable :( | 21:39 |
| jcastro | what happened? | 21:42 |
| fta | no idea | 21:42 |
| jcastro | does it spit anything out to the console? | 21:43 |
| fta | yes, HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized | 21:43 |
| fta | I posted once, no problem, got a few lines from others, then it broke | 21:43 |
| jcastro | k | 21:44 |
| jcastro | I'll ask him | 21:44 |
| jcastro | let me know if it resolves itself, I get those sometimes from identica | 21:44 |
| fta | it's been like that for 5h+ | 21:45 |
| jcastro | :-/ | 21:45 |
| fta | the web is ok so my login is not blocked | 21:46 |
| jcastro | ok | 21:47 |
| jcastro | asking | 21:47 |
| jcastro | fta: is that in the error window or on the console? (that error message) | 21:50 |
| fta | console | 21:50 |
| fta | nothing in the main window | 21:51 |
| fta | i mean, it's in the Error window | 21:51 |
| fta | i also get a Sign at the bottom right of the main window | 21:51 |
| fta | nothing in the shell/terminal | 21:52 |
| jcastro | double click the item in the error window | 21:53 |
| jcastro | fta: I am stepping out for a bit, bbl | 21:54 |
| fta | jcastro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/103656/ | 21:54 |
| fta | jcastro, from the network: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103659/ | 21:56 |
| jcastro | oh oh | 22:02 |
| jcastro | you need to make an account on identica | 22:02 |
| jcastro | you can't use the api with openid iirc | 22:02 |
| fta | eh? how come it worked for a couple of hours then? and btw, I have an account on identica, that's what i put in gwibber | 22:04 |
| fta | I checked the Authorization: Basic stuff, it's the right one | 22:05 |
| asac | white: CVE-2007-3074 fixed in 1.8.0.12 | 23:22 |
| asac | CVE-2007-3144 - no clue ... probably a mitre thing. whats the firefox status for this? | 23:22 |
| asac | CVE-2007-3827 - same here | 23:23 |
| asac | CVE-2008-0420 - fixed1.8.0.15 (see bug) | 23:23 |
| asac | CVE-2008-4063 - firefox 3/xulrunner 1.9 only part of the mfsa-2008-42 -> not affected | 23:25 |
| asac | CVE-2008-4064 - same here | 23:26 |
| asac | CVE-2008-5019 - browser only thing (session restore) -> not affected | 23:27 |
| asac | CVE-2008-5504 - code is only on 1.8.1 branch or above -> not affected | 23:28 |
| white | asac: you are really handy, did I ever say that? :) | 23:29 |
| fta | i need to ship a better automation.py than the one in _test/ which is not meant to be used outside of the build tree :( | 23:29 |
| asac | CVE-2008-5510 - thats mfsa2008-67 ... its the one not backported in this patchset -> pleas kick me to backport it regularly | 23:30 |
| asac | white: isnt 451680 in the patchset? | 23:31 |
| white | asac: i was just pointing you to the tracker, it includes the iussues handled in this round as well | 23:32 |
| asac | so the 5512 one is 370461 and 453310 | 23:32 |
| white | so don't take it as a list of missing items :) | 23:32 |
| asac | white: yes. i left those out that are in changelog | 23:32 |
| asac | so i think 5512 is fixed too | 23:32 |
| asac | in xulrunner | 23:32 |
| asac | oh dump me ;) | 23:32 |
| asac | its already in there | 23:32 |
| asac | so CVE-2008-5511 is the question here ;) | 23:33 |
| asac | lets see | 23:33 |
| white | asac: if CVE-2008-0420 was already fixed in a previous DSA, shouldn't I be able to find it in a changelog entry? | 23:33 |
| asac | yes | 23:33 |
| asac | its fixed | 23:33 |
| asac | (5512 that is) | 23:33 |
| asac | white: not sure. there might be glitches. its one of those bugs that have been fixed in CVS even | 23:34 |
| asac | so its not in the patchset anymore | 23:34 |
| asac | could be that CVE id changed ... you never know ;) | 23:34 |
| white | asac: CVE ids don't change :) | 23:34 |
| asac | they do | 23:35 |
| white | asac: i am just wondering what I can write in the tracker :) | 23:35 |
| asac | well ... they might have issued a new one | 23:35 |
| asac | and found that there exists an older one | 23:35 |
| white | asac: they rarely get adjusted, but once a CVE is given it stays. If it is a wrong issue, it get's rejected | 23:35 |
| asac | i think mitre is finally smart enough to not go through bugzilla anymore and assign random IDs to issues they dont understand ;) | 23:35 |
| white | asac: yeah that happens | 23:35 |
| asac | but they did ;) | 23:35 |
| white | i agree that in case of such large packages like mozilla stuff it gets very confusing :/ | 23:36 |
| white | asac: that's why i'm happy to have an active developer there ;) | 23:36 |
| asac | not sure why we left out mfsa 2008-07 | 23:37 |
| asac | we have -06 and -08 | 23:37 |
| asac | the code seems to apply | 23:37 |
| asac | anyway, our CVS snapshot is 080614 ... and this was committed in march | 23:40 |
| asac | so all in ther | 23:40 |
| asac | white: i thinks thats all | 23:40 |
| asac | so one CVE still open | 23:40 |
| asac | in future you should really not add something there that doesnt have a MFSA ;) | 23:40 |
| asac | i mean documented ;) | 23:40 |
| white | asac: so for CVE-2008-0420 I'll just write that it doesn't affect etch, because it was fixed in the standard etch version? | 23:43 |
| white | asac: or was it silently fixed in the last DSA? | 23:43 |
| asac | white: no let me check ;) | 23:44 |
| asac | it was definitly fixed in 1.8.0.15~pre080323b-0etch1 (because snapshot was taken 23rd march and commit happend on 12th) | 23:45 |
| asac | but more likely it was fixed in the release where it belongs to: | 23:46 |
| asac | 1.8.0.15~pre080131b-0etch1 | 23:46 |
| asac | (-06 and -08 are in there) | 23:46 |
| asac | but i cannot tell without looking at that package (and i dont have it i think) | 23:46 |
| asac | white: ok | 23:49 |
| asac | so as i said: | 23:49 |
| asac | moz-1.8.1.12-backports$ ls *408* | 23:49 |
| asac | 0039_408256-attachment-293003.patch | 23:49 |
| asac | thats http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/mozilla-security/1.8.1.12/moz-1.8.1.12b-backports.tar.gz | 23:50 |
| asac | which is 1.8.0.15~pre080131b-0etch1 | 23:50 |
| asac | (aka the release when mfsa-2008-07 was disclosed) | 23:50 |
| asac | so this was also a perfect fix ;) | 23:50 |
| asac | hehe | 23:50 |
| asac | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408076 -> fixed by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408256 ;) (a bit confusing) | 23:51 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 408076 in ImageLib "out of bounds read in BMP decoder can lead to information disclosure" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 23:51 |
| white | asac: so i'll leave CVE-2007-3144 and CVE-2007-3827 for now, right? | 23:51 |
| asac | white: CVEs that dont even have a mozilla bug are bogus and should be marked invalid | 23:52 |
| asac | CVE-2007-3144 -> invalid | 23:52 |
| asac | CVE-2007-3827 -> invalid ;) | 23:53 |
| asac | i can ask josh to get that done | 23:53 |
| white | asac: CVE-2007-3827 has https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388097 as a reference | 23:59 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 388097 in Networking: Cookies "null-domain cookies possible (malicious cookie swapping)" [Minor,New] | 23:59 |
| white | just to let you know :) | 23:59 |
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