[00:18] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[00:39] <PsynoKhi0> I have a Hardy installation here that locks up if I load the module for the sound card, while the cdrom (on ide channel 2) is connected
[00:39] <PsynoKhi0> rather it locks up when playing sound for a while
[00:40] <PsynoKhi0> cat /proc/interrupts shows the second ide channel throwing lots of interrupts
[00:40] <PsynoKhi0> the cdrom player isn't mounted and I commented out the line in fstab
[00:43] <PsynoKhi0> the computer ran fine in fiesty and gutsy, and other distros on the hdd's partitions run flawlessly too
[00:44] <PsynoKhi0> any suggestion?
[01:00] <PsynoKhi0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103338/ that's the output of cat /proc/interrupts, the cdrom unit corresponds to irq 15, I guess it's seeking media, though is there a way I can make it stop querring the channel?
[01:19] <hidronico>  okay so ive extracted the firmware for bcmxxx to /lib/firmware after this the alternate driver program doesnt recognize anything i think the instructions for fwcutter are incomplete any suggestions are appreciated !
[03:43] <batcoder-7> major problem my system wont boot wiht my lite on dvd write plugged in
[03:43] <batcoder-7> plugged in i mean connectd to the ide cable
[03:43] <batcoder-7> it stops booting and gives me a busy box terminal etc
[03:47] <R1cochet> does ur dvd share same cable as hdd?
[03:49] <R1cochet> batcoder-7: ???
[03:49] <batcoder-7> no
[03:49] <batcoder-7> it does not
[03:49] <batcoder-7> and if i plug a cd bruner into that same cable it boots just fine
[03:51] <R1cochet> ata or sata?
[03:52] <R1cochet> are the jumpers set?
[03:53] <batcoder-7> the jumppers are set to master
[03:54] <batcoder-7> i can boot other live cd's just fine
[03:54] <batcoder-7> if i try to boot it off my HD with no cd in it
[03:54] <batcoder-7> it does the same problem
[03:54] <batcoder-7> if i try to boot an xubuntu live cd
[03:54] <batcoder-7> same issue
[03:54] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to add oowriter to my top panel.  Can't find the image to use as an icon...  Doesn't seem to be anywhere in /usr/share/pixmaps like any other program.
[03:54] <R1cochet> so are u trying to boot from cd or hdd?
[03:55] <R1cochet> craigbass1976: openoffice writer?
[03:55] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, yes
[03:56] <craigbass1976> I thought right clicking on it in the menu might give me some options, but it just fires the program up
[03:56] <batcoder-7> R1cochet, hd but it wont boot wiht my dvd drive plugged in
[03:56] <batcoder-7> this is crappy
[03:56] <R1cochet> craigbass1976: from synaptic?
[03:56] <batcoder-7> i need to brun a dvd
[03:56] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, it's installed, I'm just trying to put a launcher on my panel
[03:56] <R1cochet> batcoder-7: is it a PATA or SATA?
[03:56] <craigbass1976> wondering where the png is
[03:57] <batcoder-7> its not Sata
[03:57] <R1cochet> craigbass1976: 1 min
[03:57] <batcoder-7> so i guess Psata if thats what a stanrd ide is ?
[03:57] <R1cochet> ii think i can find it
[03:57] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, no rush, give them a hand first.
[03:57] <R1cochet> yea PATA
[03:58] <batcoder-7> this sucks
[03:58] <batcoder-7> cant even boot my system with a dvd drive in it
[03:58] <batcoder-7> works fine if i try a cd rw though
[03:58] <R1cochet> check ur bios for boot order
[03:58] <R1cochet> hmm weird
[03:58] <R1cochet> batcoder-7: u might want to check in ##hardware
[04:00] <R1cochet> craigbass1976: OOo installs to /opt/openoffice.....
[04:00] <R1cochet> try looking in there
[04:01] <craigbass1976> criminy...
[04:02] <R1cochet> i know man nut im looking also
[04:03] <batcoder-7> how much lighter does the current xfce run compared to gnome
[04:03] <batcoder-7> i know its a heated argument but a rough estimate ?
[04:05] <R1cochet> no idea i liked xfce more
[04:05] <batcoder-7> they say its ighter
[04:05] <batcoder-7> but
[04:05] <batcoder-7> some people are sayng its just the same now
[04:06] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, I see NOTHING in opt; hunted around /usr/lib and found some stuff, but it's the images OOo uses in the programs themselves.
[04:06] <R1cochet> yea thats what ive come across so far
[04:06] <craigbass1976> batcoder-7, I just wiped my laptop over Christmas.  Had regular ubuntu, now running xub.  Much faster
[04:06] <R1cochet> craigbass1976: what version of OOo r u using
[04:07] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, 2.4
[04:07] <batcoder-7> craigbass1976, might be due to just a nice fresh system ?
[04:07] <batcoder-7> i dunno i assume its lighter but by how much i dont know
[04:07] <craigbass1976> batcoder-7, I don't know... This aint windows, so stuff tends to stay pretty clean anyway.
[04:08] <craigbass1976> If I need something faster, isn't there a fluxbuntu out there?
[04:08] <craigbass1976> Or I'll just run no GUI and vi everything...
[04:09] <craigbass1976> elinks on the net... oh yeah
[04:09] <R1cochet> i think there is a fluxbox
[04:09] <batcoder-7> fluxubuntu is not like
[04:09] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, I haven't used fluxbox in a couple years
[04:09] <batcoder-7> xubuntu etc
[04:09] <batcoder-7> poorly supported
[04:10] <batcoder-7> very slow release cycle
[04:10] <batcoder-7> btw its all using the same repo's here
[04:10] <batcoder-7> all thats being done is some guy is installing apps that he htinks are best suited for your desktop
[04:10] <batcoder-7> i wish i would have installed an ubuntu server then installed xfce
[04:10] <batcoder-7> system would prolly run faster
[04:11] <batcoder-7> most likely some background shit running that i really dont need
[04:11] <craigbass1976> I ran a xubuntu server for a while.  The new server is running centos, but it's named xub because I didn't want to wait for dns records to update
[04:12] <batcoder-7> i just said server because it comes clean btw
[04:12] <batcoder-7> i wouldnt run ubuntu as a server
[04:12] <batcoder-7> i use ubuntu stuff becasue its a faster release cycle and more suited for desktops
[04:12] <batcoder-7> but yet somewhat stable
[04:15] <craigbass1976> I laugh at the stable comment.  I can't remember if I've ever had a screaming fit at my computers since I quit windows, yet any of the windows boxes I've had to use at work still get me wound up tighter than a ten cent top with all the crashing they do
[04:18] <craigbass1976> R1cochet, so I broke down and just downloaded an icon, threw it into /usr/share/pixmaps/ and called it good.
[04:20] <R1cochet> bummer
[04:21] <craigbass1976> I'll find theones I was looking for, next week when I'm trying to find a missing php file or something...
[04:23] <R1cochet> craigbass1976:
[04:23] <R1cochet> http://ui.openoffice.org/VisualDesign/OOo20MimeType.html
[04:23] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: try /usr/share/icons
[04:23] <craigbass1976> yeah that's where I had to go.
[04:23] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: in particular /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[04:24] <TheSheep> that's the default fallback
[04:24] <craigbass1976> Oh my God....  See R1cochet?  I knew they were right in front of me the whole time
[04:25] <R1cochet> where?
[04:26] <craigbass1976> /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[04:26] <R1cochet> lol
[04:28] <craigbass1976> On that note...  I'm stepping out.  Thanks folks.  I've once again proven that sometimes I can't find my backside with both hands and a flashlight...
[07:14] <patches> hi all
[09:05] <R1cochet> where do i put fonts i dl'ed from gnome-look?
[10:26] <GINZ> Hello, I have downloaded the latest Xubuntu from the internet, created a bootable CD, and started to boot from it
[10:27] <GINZ> but the installation has stopped at the page starting "Completed codepage select function" and ending with a copyright line then [DR-DOS] A:\>
[10:28] <GINZ> It has the flashing square block, but no instruction
[10:28] <GINZ> what can I do now?
[10:30] <R1coch3t> umm u might try to load in safegrafx mode
[10:30] <GINZ> Sorry i don;t understand
[10:30] <R1coch3t> where it says try xubuntu, install, memtest..... hit f4
[10:31] <GINZ> is that early in the installation?
[10:32] <R1coch3t> i miss understood
[10:32] <R1coch3t> so u have already started the install and it froze?
[10:32] <GINZ> yes
[10:32] <R1coch3t> sorry cant help w/ that
[10:32] <GINZ> Ok thanks for trying
[14:40] <gopp> hello when I use likewise-open to join the domain, it joins succefully
[14:41] <gopp> but I can't seem to log on as domain administrator, it keeps saying Unknown id: administrator
[14:41] <gopp> when I do su administrator Unknown id: administrator
[15:20] <guyiom> sudo -s
[15:37] <PrebenR> Hi. I'm trying to turn off touchpad on an asus eee with xubuntu 8.10
[15:37] <PrebenR> I keep getting: Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[15:37] <PrebenR> even if I have added Option "SHMConfig" "on" in the xorg.conf
[15:45] <gabkdlly> PrebenR: i believe there is quite a bit of info on the Ubuntu wiki about the eee
[15:46] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[15:48] <gabkdlly> PsynoKhi0: hi
[15:49] <PsynoKhi0> the output of  cat /proc/interrupts in hardy shows quite a lot of activity on my second ide channel, although it only has a single CD drive, umounted, is there any way I can get it to spam my bus for no reason?
[15:49] <PsynoKhi0> get it to STOP spamming, sorry :)
[15:51] <PsynoKhi0> I suspect it's the reaon why my computer ends up hanging after a while once the module for the sound card has been loaded
[16:30] <bjwebb> hi
[16:30] <bjwebb> how do i delete a saved session?
[16:37] <PrebenR> gabkdlly, yes, but nothing works
[16:38] <PrebenR> gabkdlly, do one need some kernel module loaded too? I cannot get the SHM to work
[17:18] <yotux> has anyone got online banking to work in xubuntu?
[17:18] <gabkdlly> yes
[17:19] <nikolam> What bank
[17:20] <nikolam> For enterprise or Personal banking?
[17:21] <nikolam> I use IE 6 with wine for personal finance on web
[17:23] <charlie-tca> listen
[17:30] <PrebenR> nikolam, why would you want to use IE 6.0?
[17:36] <nikolam> There are banks here that have web home banking solutions that only work with IE6.. sad I know
[17:58] <wisniewski> hallo can someone tell me whats the best driver for xubuntu 8.1 and firegl t2 mobile on a thinkpad
[19:36] <C10uD> sup guys
[19:36] <C10uD> i can't find a way to tell pam not to ask for password when loggin in
[19:36] <C10uD> from console
[19:36] <C10uD> (i'm not using gdm, xdm, kdm *dm or whatever)
[19:37] <keb> you want no password on your system?
[19:37] <C10uD> just at boot, i need it to boot without my intervention
[19:37] <C10uD> :)
[19:38] <C10uD> i found some NO_PASSWORD_CONSOLE deprecated settings, but i couldn't find how to do it editing pam settings
[19:38] <keb> i wonder what they do with live distro to login without password
[19:38] <C10uD> they use gdm, i don't use it :p
[19:50] <zesss> i just put xubunt on my laptop was wondering how to get the dispalay to read 1024x768 this highest on the list is 800x600
[19:53] <zesss> anyone there
[19:55] <zesss> i just put xubunt on my laptop was wondering how to get the dispalay to read 1024x768 this highest on the list is 800x600
[20:04] <nikolam> zesss, I am not shure generally, but it is good thing to firstly select right graphics card driver/server
[20:07] <zesss> i mean everyhing comes up fine in 800x600 but this laptop doesnt use the whole screen in this mode but with windows 1024x768 uses the whole screen
[20:07] <nikolam> zesss, I had the same thing on every install, after installing/start of using right driver, new resolutions/frequencies appears
[20:08] <zesss> where do i change the driver then
[20:08] <nikolam> what graphics Notebook use?
[20:08] <zesss> lynx silicon
[20:08] <zesss> 4mb
[20:09] <zesss> seems like the screen driver not the adapter
[20:09] <lc2> 4mb, feel the powah
[20:12] <zesss> lol
[20:12] <zesss> i know
[20:12] <zesss> its only gonna be used for satalite radio at work
[20:12] <lc2> zesss: i had the same problem with my monitor, it wouldn't believe that it'd go above 1024x768 @ 56hz
[20:12] <lc2> zesss: i had to play with my xorg.conf for that to work
[20:12] <zesss> ya lc2 so how did you fix it
[20:13] <zesss> mine wont go above 800x600 @56hz
[20:13] <zesss> im a noob
[20:13] <lc2> zesss: you'll have to find out the vertical/horizontal sync of your monitor (if there is even such a thing on LCDs, idk)
[20:13] <zesss> dont know how to edit stuff
[20:14] <lc2> sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:14] <lc2> hold on, i'll show you the relevant parts of my xorg.conf
[20:14] <nikolam> That would be xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion package maybe?
[20:14] <zesss> nikolam:  yup
[20:14] <zesss> how do i install it
[20:15] <nikolam> from synaptic
[20:15] <lc2> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
[20:15] <nikolam> or sudo apt-get install /usr/share/man/man4/siliconmotion.4.gz
[20:15] <nikolam> upss
[20:16] <lc2> http://pastebin.com/m781f8abe is what i used to get my monitor to work right
[20:16] <nikolam> lc2, that is nvidia but he will ged idea
[20:17] <lc2> yeah, tweak to suit your setup
[20:17] <nikolam> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
[20:17] <zesss> k im confused
[20:17] <zesss> in new
[20:17] <zesss> to linux
[20:18] <lc2> zesss: don't do any of that stuff to do with xorg.conf, only start with that if using the proper driver doesn't work
[20:18] <zesss> zesss: <-------------------------------------nooob
[20:18] <lc2> tl;dr do what nikolam said
[20:18] <zesss> can i get a walkthrough
[20:18] <lc2> zesss: open a terminal, type what nikolam said, then reboot
[20:19] <zesss> ok
[20:20] <zesss> i get this
[20:20] <zesss> xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion is already the newest version.
[20:20] <zesss> xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion set to manually installed.
[20:20] <zesss> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 163 not upgraded.
[20:20] <lc2> hm
[20:21] <zesss> is there a generic monitor i can install that would do 1024x768
[20:22] <zesss> should i update with all those updates and see what it does
[20:22] <zesss> i got 167 updates
[20:22] <lc2> zesss: wow
[20:23] <zesss> lol
[20:23] <lc2> zesss: well, it doesn't hurt to update, but that's not causing the problem
[20:23] <zesss> old version of xubuntu
[20:23] <zesss> 8.04
[20:23] <lc2> hardy?
[20:23] <zesss> yup
[20:23] <lc2> ah me too
[20:23] <lc2> which laptop is it?
[20:23] <zesss> 8.10 wont work
[20:24] <zesss> thinkpad i series 1171 series 2
[20:24] <zesss> p3 650mhz 40gb hd
[20:25] <zesss> ya it wont even display 640x480
[20:26] <lc2> http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:GaYVf90wcGcJ:dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php%3Faction%3Dprintpage%3Btopic%3D2411.0+ibm+thinkpad+1171+"hsync"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=uk
[20:26] <lc2> ^ o wow, modelines ;(
[20:26] <nikolam> hi i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=994901&highlight=siliconmotion+driver
[20:26] <nikolam> seems like 8.10 driver for siliconmotion is not great because of some x.org changes
[20:32] <zesss> ok looks like they never got it working
[20:33] <nikolam> i never upgraded to 8.10. I stayed with 8.04LTS and happy with it..
[20:33] <nikolam> maybe older package of that could be installed?
[20:34] <nikolam> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=siliconmotion&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:35] <nikolam> maybe even with force option (sudo dpkg -i --force *.deb)
[20:36] <nikolam> zesss, what version of xubuntu U use?
[20:36] <zesss> 8.04
[20:37] <zesss> heroi n
[20:37] <nikolam> lol
[20:37] <zesss> :o)
[20:37] <zesss> my laptop is a heroin addict
[20:38] <nikolam> maybe you could install debian-reference package, many interesting things is in that documentation
[20:38] <nikolam> like how to port package to different distribution
[20:39] <nikolam> 2 commands dpkg-source -x *.dsc
[20:39] <nikolam> and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc
[20:40] <nikolam> and maybe some dependencies
[20:40] <nikolam> That is for making older or newer package for current install
[20:40] <zesss> so i need to run a differnet distribution to get my screen full
[20:41] <nikolam> nope, i suggest to make older version of package for your current distribution
[20:41] <nikolam> and use that older version that hopefully works.
[20:41] <nikolam> Did those modeline lines worked
[20:42] <nikolam> also look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf what driver is selected for X
[20:42] <lc2> (p.s. be careful with modelines, you can physically destroy your monitor)
[20:42] <zesss> you want me to run thos commands
[20:43] <nikolam> no
[20:43] <zesss> k
[20:44] <nikolam> get debian-reference and see for yourself
[20:44] <zesss> so those 2 commands you wrote you want me to write them in terminal
[20:44] <nikolam> no
[20:44] <zesss> :o~
[20:44] <zesss> k
[20:44] <zesss> i havent
[20:45] <nikolam> but you could do  sudo apt-get install debian-reference
[20:45] <nikolam> to get manuals etc
[20:46] <zesss> nikolam:  what about anything in here http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:GaYVf90wcGcJ:dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php%3Faction%3Dprintpage%3Btopic%3D2411.0+ibm+thinkpad+1171+hsync&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=uk
[20:46] <nikolam> under System> Debian reference. After that look for porting package to stable system, under surviving tips
[20:46] <zesss> lc2 posted that
[20:47] <nikolam> Well he was saying that is for modeline line
[20:47] <nikolam> maybe that would be enough
[20:47] <zesss> oh so its something different
[20:48] <nikolam> but one should take care with frequencies
[20:48] <lc2> yes, and that's the last resort, manually configuring your monitor
[20:48] <zesss> but that thread is on my laptop
[20:48] <nikolam> also you can always just use vesa driver in xorg.conf and forget about anything else
[20:48] <zesss> okiedoke
[20:48] <nikolam> then it is ok, if it is the same laptop :))
[20:49] <zesss> but i have no idea on how to apply
[20:49] <zesss> and would prefer to try something that wont damage permanently
[20:49] <nikolam> gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:50] <nikolam> or
[20:50] <nikolam> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:50] <nikolam> Then save
[20:50] <nikolam> And restart eather X with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace , or restart computer
[20:51] <nikolam> also I think logout/login restarts X
[20:51] <lc2> zesss: show us your existing xorg.conf and we can merge those modelines etc into it
[20:51] <zesss> ok
[20:51] <zesss> # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
[20:51] <zesss> #
[20:51] <zesss> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[20:51] <zesss> # values from the debconf database.
[20:51] <zesss> #
[20:52] <zesss> # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
[20:52] <zesss> # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[20:52] <zesss> #
[20:52] <zesss> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[20:52] <zesss> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[20:52] <nikolam> he can use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to paste
[20:52] <zesss> # package.
[20:52] <zesss> #
[20:52] <zesss> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[20:52] <nikolam> ahh.. too late..
[20:52] <zesss> # again, run the following command:
[20:52] <zesss> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[20:52] <zesss> Section "InputDevice"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Driver		"kbd"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
[20:52] <zesss> EndSection
[20:52] <nikolam> TRY to use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ next time, or now.
[20:52] <zesss> Section "InputDevice"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Driver		"mouse"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[20:52] <nikolam> zesss, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:52] <zesss> EndSection
[20:52] <zesss> Section "Device"
[20:52] <zesss> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[20:52] <lc2> nikolam: he's lagged now
[20:52] <zesss> EndSection
[20:52] <zesss> Section "Monitor"
[20:52] <nikolam> ok ok
[20:52] <zesss> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[20:52] <zesss> EndSection
[20:53] <zesss> Section "Screen"
[20:53] <zesss> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[20:53] <zesss> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[20:53] <zesss> 	Device		"Configured Video Device"
[20:53] <zesss> EndSection
[20:53] <zesss> Section "ServerLayout"
[20:53] <zesss> 	Identifier	"Default Layout"
[20:53] <zesss> 	Screen		"Default Screen"
[20:53] <zesss> EndSection
[20:53] <zesss> lol
[20:53] <zesss> sowwy
[20:53] <zesss> lol
[20:53] <zesss> they lag me for pasting
[20:53] <lc2> 'tis okay
[20:53] <nikolam> use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to paste
[20:53] <lc2> but yeah, go there and paste it
[20:53] <zesss> and im back
[20:53] <lc2> that way we won't have to remove your nick from each line
[20:54] <zesss> wola
[20:54] <zesss> i guess you need the link hey
[20:54] <zesss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103633/
[20:56] <lc2> yeah
[20:56] <lc2> one sec
[20:59] <lc2> hey nikolam what's the name of the driver if you're putting it in an xorg.conf
[21:01] <lc2> zesss: because of your weak video card i'm gonna put you in 16-bit colour if that's okay
[21:01] <zesss> it says trident for  driver
[21:01] <zesss> hey as long as its full screen
[21:01] <lc2> trident?
[21:02] <lc2> where does it say that?
[21:02] <zesss> in the xconf file at the end of the page in the link you gave mee
[21:02] <nikolam> http://linux.die.net/man/4/siliconmotion
[21:02] <lc2> yeah shouldn't it be siliconmotion though?
[21:03] <lc2> nikolam: what do you think sir
[21:03] <nikolam> "lynx", "lynxe", "lynx3d", "lynxem", "lynxem+", "lynx3dm", "cougar3dr" depending on model u see
[21:03] <lc2> oh, i'll use siliconmotion
[21:03] <zesss> yup
[21:03] <lc2> zesss: http://paste.ubuntu.com/103637/
[21:03] <lc2> paste that into your xorg.conf
[21:04] <lc2> then go to applications -> settings -> settings manager, click "display", set to "default"
[21:04] <nikolam> there is no siliconmotion on list i think
[21:04] <lc2> then ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:04] <lc2> nikolam: wait what
[21:04] <lc2> i thought we were using the siliconmotion driver here
[21:04] <nikolam> Device is not siliconmotion, look at that manualpage
[21:04] <lc2> oh shi-
[21:04] <lc2> zesss: don't paste that then, lol
[21:05] <zesss> ya i wasnt goin to
[21:05] <nikolam> Oh yes it is I am wrong
[21:05] <lc2> nikolam: it is?
[21:05] <zesss> rolmfao
[21:05] <nikolam> yes, sorry but it have some options also
[21:05] <zesss> thanx you guys for all your help :o)
[21:05] <nikolam> ok, siliconmotion
[21:05] <lc2> zesss: yeah, you're good to go now
[21:06] <zesss> k
[21:06] <nikolam> read again http://linux.die.net/man/4/siliconmotion if i missed something
[21:06] <lc2> however, i'm not responsible for your monitor exploding
[21:06] <lc2> jsyk
[21:07] <zesss> so we gonna try lc2 pasting then
[21:07] <lc2> go for it
[21:08] <lc2> but yeah, after you do that you *have* to go and set the res to "default", that way it'll use whatever the xorg default is, which will be your crafty and dangerous modeline
[21:08] <lc2> restart X, profit
[21:09] <zesss> do i need the line numbers too
[21:09] <lc2> !
[21:09] <lc2> no.
[21:09] <lc2> that'll hose X if you do, heh
[21:10] <zesss> lol
[21:10] <zesss> ok pasted now what
[21:11] <zesss> save xorg
[21:11] <lc2> save it, then do what i said about setting the res to "default", then ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:11] <nikolam> you are editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf now. save it
[21:12] <zesss> how do i set to deafault
[21:12] <lc2> zesss:  applications -> settings -> settings manager, click "display", set to "default"
[21:12] <lc2> it's at the top of the list
[21:13] <lc2> where all your other resolutions were
[21:13] <zesss> k
[21:13] <zesss> now
[21:13] <zesss> ctrl alt backspace
[21:13] <zesss> ?
[21:13] <lc2> yup
[21:13] <lc2> see you shortly
[21:13] <nikolam> or logout
[21:13] <lc2> or ctrl+alt+backspace :>
[21:13] <nikolam> well :)
[21:13]  * lc2 crosses fingers
[21:13] <lc2> heh heh
[21:14] <lc2> in before his display going boom
[21:14] <nikolam> I forgot to mention..
[21:15] <lc2> nikolam: ahaha
[21:15] <oem> did you miss mee
[21:15] <lc2> oem: sure did
[21:15] <nikolam> on my eee lcd/tft is working on 56hz
[21:15] <lc2> oem: did it work
[21:15] <oem> no
[21:15] <nikolam> he got modeline for 60.. khm
[21:15] <lc2> oshi-
[21:15] <zesss> still small screen
[21:15] <lc2> zesss: aaaa
[21:15]  * lc2 thinks
[21:16] <lc2> zesss: when X started back up, did it die and then start up again?
[21:16] <zesss> the screen did wierd things
[21:16] <lc2> heh oh
[21:16] <lc2> something's not right with that modeline
[21:16]  * nikolam thinks to tell to zesss to upgrade graphic card
[21:16] <zesss> lol
[21:16]  * lc2 thinks
[21:17] <nikolam> zesss, U can also use Login by X server/VNC through network with tightvncserver
[21:17] <zesss> just vnc to the laptop for full screen
[21:17] <nikolam> I used to watch movies through that kind of network-through VNC X
[21:18] <nikolam> If laptop will not be used for X, anyway
[21:18] <nikolam> Ok, guys, got ot go.
[21:18] <zesss> see ysa
[21:18] <zesss> thank you
[21:18] <zesss> wooooot 170 updates now
[21:18] <nikolam> zesss, Also try to search ubuntuforums.org and post your problem there, also
[21:18]  * lc2 is still thinking
[21:19] <zesss> ok
[21:20] <zesss> do you have to set a different mode cuz its lcd not a monitor
[21:21] <lc2> no, i don't think so
[21:21] <lc2> gimme a se
[21:21] <lc2> +c
[21:22] <zesss> your deafualt depth is 24
[21:23] <zesss> not 16
[21:23] <lc2> yeah i figured it would be OK
[21:24] <lc2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103643/
[21:24] <lc2> paste that into your xorg.conf instead
[21:24] <lc2> save, restart as before
[21:25] <zesss> how do i get the xorg to come up again
[21:25] <lc2> sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:27] <lc2> OH SHIT
[21:27] <lc2> DONT USE THAT LOL
[21:28] <lc2> oh shi--
[21:28] <lc2> zesss: i made a mistake :P
[21:28] <zesss> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:29] <zesss> it works
[21:29] <lc2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103644/
[21:29] <lc2> zesss: uhhhh it does?
[21:29] <zesss> yuppp
[21:29] <lc2> hahaha wow
[21:29] <zesss> full screen
[21:29] <zesss> what was the mistake
[21:29] <zesss> i can change it
[21:29] <lc2> strange because line 49 of that config file should have broke it
[21:29] <lc2> :D
[21:29] <lc2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103644/
[21:29] <lc2> is what it should look like
[21:30] <zesss> no 60hz is what it runs at in windows
[21:31] <zesss> need the command for the config file again
[21:31] <lc2> eh
[21:31] <lc2> i'm not sure that's necessary, if it works then leave it
[21:31] <zesss> ok
[21:31] <zesss> ya it works
[21:31] <lc2> i was pleasantly surprised by that
[21:32] <zesss> well good i could enlighten you
[21:32] <zesss> thanks for your help
[21:32] <zesss> is there anyway i can get my network to speed up with xubuntu
[21:32] <zesss> kinda slow at getting updates
[21:33] <zesss> im on 10mb/s connection and i get 12kb/s getting updates
[21:33] <lc2> hm
[21:34] <lc2> i doubt that's something linux is doing wrong, it's more likely to be a bottleneck elsewhere
[21:34] <zesss> 200mb of updates
[21:35] <lc2> ouch ;(
[21:35] <lc2> are you sure it's not the servers being slow?
[21:35] <lc2> i.e. have you tried downloading any other file from somewhere else
[21:35] <zesss> internet and everything else seems fast
[21:35] <zesss> havent tried to download anyhting yet
[21:36] <lc2> zesss: try it, so we can narrow things down
[21:36] <zesss> where can i download something
[21:36] <zesss> for ubuntu
[21:36] <lc2> just download any old random file bigger than a few mb
[21:36] <zesss> k
[21:38] <zesss> k
[21:39] <zesss> its just the updates
[21:39] <lc2> zesss: figures
[21:40] <lc2> okay go to applications -> system -> software sources
[21:40] <zesss> so do i still have to add locations to install programs
[21:41] <zesss> ok
[21:41] <zesss> done
[21:41] <lc2> under "download from", go to "Other"
[21:41] <lc2> and try a different mirror from there
[21:42] <zesss> so if i want to add vlc to my machine i add it to the third party list
[21:42] <lc2> zesss: no, you should just be able to apt-get install vlc
[21:43] <lc2> or rather, sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:43] <zesss> k
[21:43] <zesss> ohhhh
[21:43] <lc2> same for most other popular packages
[21:43] <zesss> i have no sound
[21:43] <lc2> zesss: o noes ;\
[21:43] <zesss> :~
[21:44] <zesss> it sees the sound card but i dont see a volume control
[21:45] <lc2> that's because you don't have one unless you add it
[21:45] <zesss> wooot thats a good mirror 500kb/s
[21:46] <zesss> ya im adding it
[21:46] <zesss> i forgot this is still in oem mode
[21:46] <lc2> :D
[21:47] <zesss> ubuntu kinda feels like old macintosh
[21:48] <lc2> i'm very fond of it
[21:49] <zesss> k installed volume control now where is it
[21:50] <lc2> right click on your taskbar at the top, "add new item", "volume control"
[21:51] <zesss> sweet
[21:51] <zesss> so to install apps i goto add remove applications?
[21:51] <lc2> that's one way of doing it, yes
[21:52] <zesss> vlc dont show in there
[21:52] <lc2> if you already know the name of the package, you do: sudo apt-get install packagenamehere
[21:52] <zesss> k
[21:52] <zesss> i found it had to click all
[21:52] <zesss> doi
[21:52] <lc2> sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:53] <Tmob> anyone using xubuntu on a netbook here?
[21:53] <zesss> yup
[21:53] <Tmob> hi zesss, i just bought a Dell mini 9, but i can't find a USB download
[21:53] <zesss> opps
[21:53] <Tmob> i dont want to get a iso, etc.
[21:53] <zesss> you said
[21:53] <zesss> netbook
[21:53] <Tmob> yes, mini 9 is a netbook
[21:54] <Tmob> http://regmedia.co.uk/2008/05/29/dell_mini_inspiron_02.jpg
[21:55] <lc2> Tmob: uh it's possible but it looks pretty convoluted
[21:55] <lc2> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/
[21:55] <lc2> and it still requires downloading the ISO, so whatever
[21:56] <zesss> thought you said notebook
[21:56] <zesss> tmob
[21:56] <zesss> err
[21:56] <zesss> can you boot off flash drive
[21:56] <lc2> apparently
[21:58] <Tmob> lc2, uh yea..
[21:58] <lc2> Tmob: yeah. ;(
[21:58] <zesss> god full screen is sooooooo nice
[21:59] <Tmob> zesss, yes, you can boot off usb drives on most machines now a days..
[21:59] <zesss> not on my pile
[22:00] <lc2> lol, technology
[22:00] <zesss> im glad this laptop will still boot off cd
[22:00] <zesss> har har har
[22:01] <lc2> my brother found a 100mhz 486 laptop
[22:01] <lc2> it couldn't boot off a CD
[22:02] <zesss> hey lc2 to see my winwos shared files to i just put in the ip address
[22:02] <lc2> uh idk
[22:03] <lc2> i know you can mount smbfs from a terminal, but i don't know how/if thunar deals with those things
[22:03] <lc2> hm.
[22:05] <lc2> there's no network share browser in xubuntu?
[22:05]  * lc2 wonders
[22:06] <zesss> i cant see one
[22:06] <lc2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131
[22:07] <lc2> how to do it with fuse
[22:07] <lc2> (that only works if the windows box is on all the time)
[22:11] <zesss> there is smb4k
[22:12] <zesss> windows is smb network
[22:12] <lc2> kde ;(
[22:12] <AndyIB> blahrg
[22:12] <zesss> i cant use it then
[22:12] <AndyIB> anyone have any optimizing tips for spotify in wine?
[22:12] <lc2> zesss: you can, but it's KDE
[22:12] <lc2> AndyIB: nosir
[22:12] <zesss> whats kde
[22:13] <lc2> zesss: it's another desktop environment
[22:13] <zesss> i dont think i have that installed
[22:13] <lc2> zesss: KDE programs will run fine under any other, but they'll look very different
[22:14] <AndyIB> keep with xcfe or gnome. less frilly stuffs.
[22:14] <Grant-A> Fluxbox would be my choice for low-memory machines
[22:14] <Grant-A> or power-using
[22:15] <jarnos> lc2: Have you tried sshfs?
[22:15] <zesss> lc2:  how do i command line map a drive
[22:15] <lc2> jarnos: i use it all the time
[22:16] <AndyIB> zesss,  "mount"
[22:16] <AndyIB> as in
[22:16] <lc2> zesss: sudo apt-get install fusesmb
[22:16] <lc2> then
[22:16] <AndyIB> or that
[22:16] <lc2> sudo modprobe fuse
[22:17] <lc2> eh, even better
[22:17] <lc2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[22:17] <lc2> :P
[22:18] <AndyIB> nvm my comment zesss, jumped in too fast thar.
[22:18] <zesss> tits ok
[22:24] <zesss> smb4k works
[22:24] <zesss> i like simple :)
[22:26] <Grant-A> hmm
[22:26] <Grant-A> what would you guys recommend for two linux computers wirelessly networking?
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> Grant-A: you mean like to share files? try ssh, scp, sshfs, and the like..
[22:34] <Grant-A> ok, I'll look into them
[22:34] <Grant-A> thanks :)
[22:45] <lc2> yeah, sshfs is awesome
[22:45] <lc2> thank god we don't have to deal with NFS these days
[23:57] <sue_> hi
[23:58] <sue_> menu.xml contains the line <include type="system" style="simple" unique="true" legacy="true"/>    where is the "system" xml file?