| Nightrose | Hobbsee: he went to bed | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Nightrose | can I help you? | 00:00 |
| Hobbsee | Nightrose: ah, ah well. | 00:00 |
| Hobbsee | Nightrose: was just going to talk about what stuff was there for archive admin, but it can wait | 00:01 |
| Nightrose | alright :) | 00:01 |
| nhandler | Hobbsee: Just out of curiosity, how did you become an archive admin? Same way you became a core-dev ;) | 00:02 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 00:02 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: it was found to be a requirement as part of being on the release team. | 00:03 |
| nhandler | Interesting. I didn't know that requirement existed | 00:04 |
| Hobbsee | well, it was while we actually did hard freezes | 00:06 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, ping | 00:10 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| Nightrose | NCommander: he's in bed | 00:49 |
| NCommander | ScottK, thanks for your comments on my core dev app | 01:00 |
| astromme_ | Are there plans for jaunty to have 4.2RC or are you guys waiting until 4.2 final? | 01:15 |
| vorian | astromme_: yes the RC will be released on schedule | 01:17 |
| astromme_ | vorian: Excellent, good to hear. I'm excited and it will be good to be able to build kdevelop again. | 01:18 |
| vorian | :) | 01:18 |
| astromme_ | Ohh, exciting, RC1 is due out tomorrow | 01:19 |
| vorian | :) | 01:20 |
| ryanakca | Ewww... I'm using dapper as a rescue disk... looks... tacky... compared to KDE4 :) | 01:44 |
| nhandler | ryanakca: Why not use a more recent live cd? | 01:44 |
| ryanakca | nhandler: because I'm not sure if I have any other live cds burned (I have a tendency of not labelling things)... and I'd rather just take the shipit cd than go through the spindle... | 01:45 |
| ryanakca | Anyways, all I need is fdisk | 01:45 |
| nhandler | Whenever a new (K)Ubuntu is released, I order it from shipit. That way, I have a pretty copy | 01:46 |
| ryanakca | nhandler: I ordered a CD... but... I never received it... :/ | 01:46 |
| nhandler | When did you order it? | 01:47 |
| * ryanakca checks | 01:47 | |
| ryanakca | nhandler: hmm... didn't order any intrepid, but, for 8.06, 1 CDs requested on 2008-06-26. This request was not approved, so no CDs were shipped. | 01:49 |
| astromme_ | I ordered an intrepid cd, came about a month ago (took a month) | 01:50 |
| astromme_ | I go to college in Philadelphia, so I had it sent there... worked just fine | 01:51 |
| * nhandler just accidentally uploaded to Ubuntu instead of PPA f*** | 01:51 | |
| ScottK | nhandler: I did that in Main during a freeze once. Set you default dput target to something nonsensical so you always have to specify. | 01:57 |
| nhandler | ScottK: I just did that. The worst part is that the package just FTBFS. I think I know the issue. I'll test the fix in my ppa and then reupload | 01:58 |
| nhandler | This is funny. Yesterday, the lpia ppa buildd was taking forever to get to my packages. Today, it is building them faster than i386 and amd64 | 02:07 |
| vorian | ha | 02:07 |
| nhandler | Good news is that I only have a few more packages to backport | 02:08 |
| nhandler | Should I backport l10n? | 02:08 |
| nixternal | ok, I want to get a proper count of hard drives on a machine and it needs to scale, so no counting /dev/sd* or /dev/hd* and such...what is the best way? | 02:23 |
| nixternal | drives could either be sata, scsi, sas, and who know what the future holds | 02:23 |
| nixternal | does linux now place all info under /proc/scsci/ ? | 02:23 |
| nixternal | no matter the drive type? | 02:23 |
| jjesse | nixternal: finally got to your blogs re; netbook, i love my dell mini 9 and i hack away at ubuntu-docs all the time on it | 02:37 |
| jjesse | nixternal and have no problem iwth the keyboard | 02:37 |
| nixternal | I have tried the mini 9, keyboard sucks for me | 02:37 |
| nixternal | right now Samsung and HP have the best keyboards for my 2 slabs of meat at the end of my arms | 02:37 |
| jjesse | really? i enjoy the keyboard, works great for me | 02:37 |
| jjesse | lol at slabs of meat | 02:37 |
| vorian | ha | 02:39 |
| jjesse | just updating vm of jaunty, wow there are a lot of updates, including a ton of new packages installed | 02:39 |
| vorian | don't install anything!!1111one | 02:40 |
| vorian | give it another 12 hours or so | 02:40 |
| jjesse | vorian; too late i think :) | 02:42 |
| vorian | oh boy | 02:42 |
| jjesse | hrmm was just downloading still | 02:42 |
| jjesse | canceled the download | 02:42 |
| vorian | i think most of the x86 has passed though | 02:42 |
| jjesse | lots of issues in jaunty? | 02:42 |
| jjesse | ok i'll wait :) | 02:42 |
| vorian | no, 4.1.96 is about half way finished building | 02:42 |
| vorian | :) | 02:42 |
| jjesse | ah then i'll wait | 02:43 |
| vorian | oh yeah, you'd be in big trouble | 02:43 |
| vorian | kde4bindings is still building for 386 | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | nhandler: no, we don't generally backport l10n packages. There are like 40 of them :S | 02:43 |
| nhandler | JontheEchidna: I also learned why bindings built so easily, it was an older version ;) | 02:44 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 02:44 |
| nhandler | Yeah, I noticed once I started getting a few FTBFS | 02:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Uploaded kde3bindings, so please accept into Universe when you get a chance. | 02:45 |
| ScottK | NCommander: You're welcome. | 02:55 |
| ScottK | btw, /me plays Uno too. | 02:56 |
| NCommander | ScottK, Uno? | 02:56 |
| ScottK | It came up earlier in the day. | 02:57 |
| ScottK | Card game. | 02:57 |
| * ScottK just got done with 11 hours of backscroll. | 02:57 | |
| NCommander | heh | 02:57 |
| * nhandler notes there is ##uno | 02:57 | |
| ScottK | jpds: Why didn't you ack Ardour for Hardy too? | 02:58 |
| jjesse | wow ScottK you read all 11 hours of backscroll | 02:58 |
| jjesse | that's amazing | 02:58 |
| ScottK | Anyone know if we managed to stuff the late breaking konqmimedata.cpp patch into our 4.1.4 packages? | 02:58 |
| * ScottK confesses to skimming some parts. | 02:59 | |
| jjesse | still wow | 02:59 |
| * ScottK got hilighted enough he had to look at most of it for context. | 02:59 | |
| * ScottK reads fast too. | 02:59 | |
| === akonadi is now known as nihui | ||
| ScottK | BTW, I think I've cleared Jaunty of stuff that doesn't work with Amarok 2. | 03:16 |
| nhandler | :D | 03:16 |
| * ScottK notices he blew right by NCommander on UTU in the process. | 03:16 | |
| nhandler | Is UTU up right now? | 03:17 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 03:17 |
| ScottK | New URL. | 03:17 |
| nhandler | What is it? | 03:17 |
| ScottK | http://thc.emgent.org/utu/utu_jaunty.php | 03:18 |
| nhandler | I'm going to suggest that they add the UTU to the hall-of-fame | 03:19 |
| ScottK | What happened to uploading 4.1.4? | 03:19 |
| vorian | it was uploaded earlier today | 03:19 |
| ScottK | nhandler: I've suggested it to emgent before. | 03:19 |
| ScottK | Just not accepted yet, I guess. | 03:19 |
| vorian | right | 03:19 |
| vorian | 12pm est | 03:20 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Why to emgent? Go to jono or whoever is doing HoF | 03:20 |
| * nhandler notes that that is how he got REVU added | 03:20 | |
| ScottK | Because emgent would either have to hand over the code of make UTU actually reliable. | 03:20 |
| jjesse | what is utu? | 03:20 |
| ScottK | Up for 1 day in 7 doesn't do it. | 03:20 |
| jjesse | netowrk time out of me | 03:20 |
| ScottK | Ubuntu Top Uploaders | 03:20 |
| jjesse | ah | 03:20 |
| ScottK | http://thc.emgent.org/utu/utu_jaunty.php | 03:20 |
| nhandler | ScottK: True, the uptime would be an issue. But the code is very simple. norsetto gave me his old version. I then ported it to perl | 03:21 |
| nhandler | It is very similar to what emgent is running | 03:21 |
| ScottK | OK. | 03:21 |
| ScottK | ported/obfuscated, but yeah. | 03:22 |
| ScottK | Converting to Perl is by definition obfuscating. | 03:22 |
| nhandler | ScottK: In this case, the perl is about as obfuscated as its python equivalent | 03:22 |
| ScottK | That can happen. | 03:23 |
| ScottK | The difference is in Python you have to work to make it obfuscated and in Perl you have to work to make it clear. | 03:23 |
| ScottK | Mind you, you might have said PHP and then I'd just have to be ill. | 03:24 |
| nhandler | Well, lucky for you, I don't use PHP | 03:25 |
| NCommander | ScottK, **** ;-P | 03:28 |
| ScottK | nhandler: No. I'd say lucky for you too. | 03:28 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Got kde4ilbs on armel fixed yet? | 03:28 |
| NCommander | No | 03:29 |
| NCommander | My ARM board is about to go flying out the nearest window at the rate I'm going :-P | 03:29 |
| ScottK | Please fix, then throw after. | 03:29 |
| NCommander | ScottK, bug apachelogger for me to comment on my core dev application | 03:30 |
| ScottK | OK. | 03:30 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Comment on NCommander's core-dev application. | 03:30 |
| nhandler | Did apachelogger already comment on it? | 03:30 |
| NCommander | Nope | 03:30 |
| NCommander | Part of the reason why its stalle | 03:31 |
| ScottK | We're in the follow-up section anyway. | 03:31 |
| NCommander | *stalled | 03:31 |
| NCommander | Maybe in retrospect it wasn't the best idea to apply over christmas | 03:31 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Kirkland applied in October. He's still not core-dev. | 03:31 |
| NCommander | Did we become Debian NM and no one told me? | 03:31 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Isn't that why the MOTU Council is working on improving the process? | 03:31 |
| * NCommander notes he still hasn't used his DD uploading powers yet | 03:32 | |
| ScottK | Oooh. | 03:32 |
| NCommander | crao | 03:32 |
| NCommander | *crap | 03:32 |
| NCommander | shouldn't have said that | 03:32 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Sponsor an NMU for me? | 03:32 |
| NCommander | ScottK, let me guess? A little roll reversal :-)? | 03:32 |
| NCommander | ScottK, bug? | 03:32 |
| nhandler | NCommander: Did you ever get a chance to look at that package again for me? | 03:32 |
| NCommander | nhandler, no | 03:32 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I didn't write the NMU fix yet. | 03:32 |
| NCommander | kinda slipped off the radar | 03:33 |
| nhandler | Ok, np | 03:33 |
| ScottK | It won't take long. | 03:33 |
| NCommander | ScottK, yesh, at least I only bug you for sponsoring when I have the fix already :-P | 03:33 |
| * NCommander is shot | 03:33 | |
| * ScottK hands NCommander a band-aid | 03:33 | |
| NCommander | lol | 03:33 |
| NCommander | I can apperiate the irony that I have to sponsor you. | 03:33 |
| NCommander | Just rewards and all that. | 03:33 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I've sponsored my AM in Ubuntu, so it all goes around. | 03:34 |
| NCommander | whats the NMU? | 03:34 |
| * ScottK looks for the bug | 03:34 | |
| NCommander | (or which maintainer am I going to be pissing off) | 03:34 |
| ScottK | No one important. | 03:34 |
| * NCommander installs KDE's build deps | 03:35 | |
| ScottK | NCommander: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511037 | 03:35 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 511037 in python-dkim "python-dkim: tries to overwrite file owned by dkimproxy (again!)" [Serious,Open] | 03:35 |
| ScottK | python-dkim is mine and the dkimproxy upstream just came back and gave the OK to rename stuff in dkimproxy | 03:36 |
| NCommander | So in other words, my inbox isn't going to be decimated by a POed DD? | 03:36 |
| * NCommander has already experienced the "fun" in that | 03:36 | |
| ScottK | Nope. Maintainer is not a DD. | 03:36 |
| NCommander | s/DD/D Something | 03:37 |
| NCommander | :-P! | 03:37 |
| NCommander | ScottK, remember to request the unblock once I sponsor | 03:37 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Sure thing. | 03:37 |
| NCommander | Extra bonus tip: I recommend setting your urgency to high | 03:38 |
| NCommander | (its somewhat annoying waiting ten days just so the release team can unblock) | 03:38 |
| ScottK | OK. I'd have gone for Medium, but you're the sponsor | 03:38 |
| NCommander | Doesn't really matter | 03:38 |
| NCommander | its your patch | 03:38 |
| NCommander | if it compiles and doesn't break $WORLD, I'll upload it | 03:38 |
| ScottK | OK. | 03:43 |
| ScottK | I'm doing it now. | 03:43 |
| * ScottK is tempted to file an new bug on dkimproxy while he is at it, "Maintainer provided man pages complete crap." | 03:46 | |
| ScottK | At least the NMU template works. | 03:49 |
| astromme_ | ScottK: Have you tried the Amarok 2 package? I can't seem to get a collection built. It shows the progressbar but no collection shows up. | 03:53 |
| ScottK | I have not, but others have. | 03:53 |
| * ScottK looks at vorian. | 03:53 | |
| nhandler | astromme_: I tried out amarok 2, but I didn't actually try building a collection | 03:53 |
| vorian | astromme_: there is a fix in progress | 03:53 |
| astromme_ | It was working fine for me with the neon 2.0.0 packages | 03:53 |
| astromme_ | vorian: Oh, so it's known? | 03:54 |
| vorian | as soon as it clears the build machines | 03:54 |
| vorian | yes | 03:54 |
| astromme_ | Great, good to know. | 03:54 |
| vorian | you can install mysql-server-5.1 to fix it now | 03:54 |
| * astromme_ never remembers how important his dynamic playlists are until they're gone | 03:54 | |
| astromme_ | vorian: Alright, downloading. Fingers crossed | 03:55 |
| * ScottK waits for the sid pbuilder to update . | 03:56 | |
| LaserJock | vorian: is that going to make it into ~kubuntu-experimental PPA? | 03:56 |
| vorian | LaserJock: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0.1.1 | 03:57 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: I got the fixed version a few hours ago | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | sorry, I meant ~kubuntu-memebers-kde4 PPA | 03:57 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: then you are running x386 | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | vorian: I have no mysql-server-5.1 here | 03:58 |
| JontheEchidna | yay for multiple archs | 03:58 |
| vorian | the backported version has the necessary depends LaserJock | 03:58 |
| vorian | but it will be called amarok-mysql-server or some such thing | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | I have amarok-mysql-data | 03:59 |
| vorian | that's the one | 04:00 |
| vorian | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.0.1.1-0ubuntu3 | 04:00 |
| vorian | 11 hours! | 04:00 |
| vorian | you'd think we flooded the build machines today or something :P | 04:00 |
| astromme_ | lol =). Gotta love large releases | 04:01 |
| astromme_ | Aha! Amarok 2 is taking much longer to scan the collection. I think that's a good sign | 04:02 |
| nhandler | vorian: i386 and amd64 have been really slow today for the ppas | 04:02 |
| vorian | yeah | 04:02 |
| * vorian wonders what has a private build on official build machines | 04:03 | |
| ScottK | NCommander: NMU diff mailed to the bug. You want it some way else? | 04:04 |
| * astromme_ is excited. His collection works again in amarok! | 04:12 | |
| * NCommander blows the dust off his sid chroot | 04:13 | |
| LaserJock | bah, I wish you could set exclusions for the collection folder | 04:14 |
| ScottK | Excellent. Once that's uploaded I'll know which package version to conflict with. | 04:14 |
| * NCommander is amazed | 04:16 | |
| NCommander | A non-source upload | 04:16 |
| NCommander | This is a first :-) | 04:16 |
| === akonadi is now known as nihui | ||
| NCommander | my chroot almost done updating | 04:17 |
| vorian | bug 267497 | 04:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267497 in network-manager-applet "MASTER support for connection sharing missing - Was: networkmanager offers no simple function to make one computer's internet connection available to other computers, using Wi-Fi / WLAN" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267497 | 04:21 |
| vorian | eek | 04:22 |
| mooglinux | this the place to ask about problems in the 4.2 beta? | 04:22 |
| vorian | sure | 04:23 |
| vorian | are you running jaunty? | 04:23 |
| mooglinux | well sound works in everything EXCEPT amarok. no, this is on top of inrepid, via the neon nightlies | 04:23 |
| vorian | what's not working with amarok? | 04:24 |
| mooglinux | no audio output | 04:24 |
| vorian | do you have other sound? | 04:24 |
| mooglinux | yes, as far as i can tell everything else puts out sound, like vlc mplayer and even pidgin | 04:25 |
| vorian | hmm | 04:25 |
| mooglinux | ive tried goin into the system settings and rearranging the sound devices, to no avail | 04:25 |
| mooglinux | it started when i got an error that 'sound device nvidia somethingorother is not working" when i logged in, and have not gotten sound since | 04:26 |
| mooglinux | that particular sound device has not worked at all, i might add. its named as "NVIDIA CK804 with ALC850 (NVidia CK804)" | 04:30 |
| mooglinux | well this is strange. just changing the order under 'audio output' doesnt change the order for the subcategories. so i reordered the devices in each category, and now amarok returns the error that it could not find any collection plugins | 04:33 |
| ScottK | vorian: So mark down libmysqlclient16-dev on your list ..... | 05:13 |
| vorian | ScottK: amarok build-depends on libmysqlclient-dev, not libmysqlclient15-dev | 05:14 |
| ScottK | Right, but both 15 and the soon to be 16 provide that. | 05:14 |
| ScottK | You want to make sure we get the 5.1 one. | 05:14 |
| vorian | ah noted | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | yeah, you guys broke OO.o :p | 05:16 |
| vorian | ha | 05:16 |
| ScottK | Nope. Server Team did the mysql 5.1 upload. | 05:18 |
| ScottK | Not our fault at all. | 05:18 |
| ScottK | The fact that we were pushing them to get it done quickly had nothing to do with it. | 05:18 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 05:18 |
| * ScottK is really glad he didn't upload mysql 5.1. | 05:24 | |
| * ScottK considered it. | 05:24 | |
| * ScottK goes to be before his head esploads. | 05:25 | |
| ScottK | Good night all. | 05:25 |
| cbr | msn support in kopete 4.1.96? | 08:58 |
| cbr | no? | 08:58 |
| cbr | okay, the first thing when entering the 4.1.96 in jaunty is a message informing me that plasma has received SIGSEGV | 09:09 |
| nihui | msn support in kopete 4.1.96 <-- yes! | 09:09 |
| cbr | and no desktop appears | 09:09 |
| cbr | is that a known issue? | 09:10 |
| cbr | i'm of course overly joyful that something like this still happens in an RC.. and am crossing my fingers for it to be a kubuntu issue :p | 09:10 |
| cbr | oh.. kdebase-workspace is not updated yet | 09:18 |
| cbr | maybe that's why plasma is being evil at me | 09:18 |
| cbr | didnt notice that | 09:18 |
| knusperfrosch | hi! | 09:27 |
| knusperfrosch | will vpnc work again with knetworkmanager in 9.04? | 09:27 |
| freeflying | nihui: for dependency reason, we can not have WML support in kubuntu(a.k.a. msn) | 10:03 |
| freeflying | by now | 10:03 |
| briseight | Lure: Hi! Thx for your help. Installing marble-data fixed my issue with digikam plugin. | 10:11 |
| nihui | freeflying: ??? | 10:14 |
| nihui | libmsn -> kopete WLM support ~~ | 10:14 |
| freeflying | nihui: yes, for libmsn | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 10:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio! | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | I just tests rc1 packages on jaunty.... plasma is broken here, receiving a dbus time out error... | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | is that known problem or is that just my computer ? | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hey ;) | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I HAVE internet at home :) | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: finally, since a couple of days :) | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: libpackagekit and kpackagekit are waiting in the NEW queue, btw | 10:30 |
| Riddell | ooh | 10:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what about policykit-kde? isn't that needed first? | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also uploaded kde4 version of kipi-plugins | 10:31 |
| Riddell | Lure ^^ | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and working on k3b atm | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll wait for kde 4.2 to be released since there are commits everyday | 10:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: Lure tried k3b from svn yesterday and said he couldn't get it to do anything with the CDs | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: then I'll upload it | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as for network-manager-kde | 10:31 |
| Riddell | so test it out hard | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | they both don't work at the moment, so I keep them localy and test them every day | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll contact upstream for those 2 directly... | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: so what about plasma ? am I the only one with a broken thing ? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: working fine with me using packages from kubuntu-ninjas, I havn't looked at what's compiled in jaunty yet, maybe something hasn't compiled yet and there's an incompatibility | 10:33 |
| cbr | oh nice, 4.1.96 works now | 10:38 |
| cbr | that kdebase-workspace got built | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I'll retry then :) | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I give policykit-kde a complete review toonight and will let you know | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: still a bit messy in my appartment, so I'll be 60% available only for a couple of weeks.... I have to buy a few things I miss in there to be comfortable :) | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but I'm back, definately | 10:45 |
| Riddell | he's back! | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | yup.... you cannot imagin how it is to live 7 month without any internet connection at home | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's a nightmare for a geek | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | the good point is that you rediscover a couple of things :) like reading books and so on :) | 10:46 |
| * Tonio_ reboots on linux and gives plasma a test | 10:46 | |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Test Upgrading! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidKDE42Upgrades | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySpecs | ||
| Tonio_ | it works :) | 10:51 |
| Riddell | formidable | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is there a main inclusion report for libmsn ? | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we need this for msn support back in kopete | 10:52 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, as usual it's blocked on security review | 10:52 |
| Riddell | I'm going to just promote it to main after the alpha | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | as well as ssl support for jabber for gmail | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | I don't remember the required dep for that... | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | hum looks like this is done, great | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I saw that mysql-server if going 5.1, sounds good for us :) | 10:54 |
| Riddell | it's not | 10:54 |
| Riddell | not in main anyway | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can't we get that done ? | 10:55 |
| Riddell | hopefully we can get something in, but not the whole thing | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | hum, all we need is the runtime right ? | 10:56 |
| Riddell | the libmysql.a is all, and some amount of mysql-data | 10:57 |
| Tonio_ | hum okay | 11:00 |
| === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away | ||
| houz | hi, is here anyone using PyKDE4? i somehow can't use it :-( | 11:27 |
| Riddell | oh | 11:45 |
| Lure | Tonio_: hi! long time no read... | 12:00 |
| Lure | Tonio_: what version of kipiplugins did you upload | 12:01 |
| * Lure has uploaded beta6 couple of days ago... | 12:01 | |
| === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler | ||
| Riddell | apachelogger: kdepim failed with "/usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde4.mk:4: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: No such file or" | 12:19 |
| Riddell | something wrong with the quilt detection you added to cdbs? | 12:19 |
| nixternal | who broke koffice in backports? | 12:22 |
| Riddell | mmm? | 12:22 |
| nixternal | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-back.png', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen | 12:23 |
| Riddell | grr | 12:25 |
| Riddell | nixternal: what version of kde-icons-oxygen do you have? | 12:25 |
| nixternal | good point :) | 12:25 |
| nixternal | I tend to forget I am not running kde4 from the main repos :) | 12:26 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ah, it does have a patch | 12:27 |
| * Riddell fixes | 12:27 | |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: I uploaded kde4 beta6 version | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: long time no see :) happy new year !! | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hum, I couldn't see it in the archives.... did you upload in a ppa ? | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | hum kmail's currently broken... | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | ho kdepim fails, right... | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want me to fix kdepim ? | 12:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I just uploaded it | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, missing build-dep I suspect ? | 13:00 |
| Riddell | yes | 13:00 |
| Tonio_ | hum file conflicts between kmousetool and kttsd | 13:01 |
| Tonio_ | both have /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/female.png | 13:01 |
| Tonio_ | fixing... | 13:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: please update the bzr branches too | 13:02 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 13:02 |
| Riddell | bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/<package>/ubuntu/ | 13:02 |
| seele | Tonio_: did colomar get in contact with you again? he has been having trouble using kpackagekit to get anything installed | 13:05 |
| Tonio_ | seele: hum he contacted me 2 weeks, then I responded and fixed the packages on my ppa | 13:10 |
| Tonio_ | seele: no news since then.... | 13:10 |
| Lure | Riddell: it was in ppa, and later to main archives | 13:10 |
| Lure | or better universe archives | 13:10 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ^^^ | 13:11 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and happy new year to you too! | 13:11 |
| Lure | Tonio_: was your upload accepted or rejected (because of smaller/same version)? | 13:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hum lemme look :) | 13:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: kdebase-runtime RC version missing in jaunty - know issue? | 13:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: rejected, which is fine :) | 13:12 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I did beta version of both digikam/kipi | 13:12 |
| seele | Tonio_: hum.. i wonder who he talked to then | 13:12 |
| * Lure is back in digikam/kipi hacking ;-) | 13:12 | |
| * Lure and ubuntu polishing ;-) | 13:12 | |
| Riddell | Lure: it's there, although not amd64 yet https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kdebase-runtime/4:4.1.96-0ubuntu1 | 13:12 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, then I just need to wait | 13:13 |
| seele | Tonio_: this happens any time you try to install a package: "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!" | 13:13 |
| Tonio_ | seele: well as I said him the packages are on my ppa for intrepid... | 13:13 |
| Tonio_ | seele: https://edge.launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive | 13:14 |
| seele | Tonio_: yes, that is where we got it from | 13:14 |
| Tonio_ | seele: he should have been able to test from there | 13:14 |
| Tonio_ | seele: you also have to use the policykit-gnome thing at the moment since the kde equivalent is missing/broken | 13:15 |
| seele | hmm.. maybe that's the problem | 13:15 |
| seele | huh.. no that's installed | 13:15 |
| Tonio_ | seele: hum.... | 13:16 |
| Tonio_ | seele: what about the "policykit-gnome" package, is it installed ? | 13:16 |
| Tonio_ | seele: with this one it is supposed to work... | 13:17 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I expect to give latest policykit-kde a complete test toonight, on that purpose... | 13:17 |
| seele | Tonio_: yes policykit-gnome is installed | 13:17 |
| Tonio_ | seele: weird.... what dosn't work then ? | 13:19 |
| Tonio_ | seele: please report to me by mail, I'll give a test since I'll work on those toonight :) | 13:19 |
| seele | Tonio_: installing software doesnt work. i'll send you mail then | 13:19 |
| seele | is kpackagekit written in c++? | 13:20 |
| cbr | woow, the folderview highlight effect looks so nice | 13:20 |
| Tonio_ | seele: yes it is | 13:20 |
| Tonio_ | seele: hum, works for me | 13:20 |
| seele | Tonio_: did you uninstall adept or maybe we missed a dependency? | 13:21 |
| Tonio_ | seele: you may also need to check permissions and unsure your user is authorized software installation | 13:21 |
| Tonio_ | seele: that's the purpose of policykit | 13:21 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I haven't adept installed | 13:21 |
| seele | so it asking me for the admin password isnt enough? | 13:21 |
| Tonio_ | seele: to set permissions, you may have to start : sudo polkit-gnome-authorization | 13:22 |
| Tonio_ | seele: check if your user is allowed installations, upgrades etc... | 13:22 |
| Tonio_ | seele: | 13:23 |
| Tonio_ | seele: policykit requires : user/group allowed a task and then if yes, auth mode (could be with or without a password and so on) | 13:23 |
| seele | Tonio_: aah, none of that was set. hopefully that was the problem | 13:23 |
| Tonio_ | seele: probably yes :) | 13:23 |
| Tonio_ | seele: we'll have to be sure default settings are convenient on that point ! | 13:24 |
| freeflying | after today's upgrade, plasma can not start | 13:24 |
| freeflying | anyone suffered this? | 13:24 |
| Tonio_ | seele: atm, policykit-kde works for authentication if password isn't asked, but fails authenticate with password... | 13:24 |
| seele | huh, i think kpackagekit is also buggy. i always get problems searching for software | 13:24 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: update again, will work :) | 13:24 |
| freeflying | hehe | 13:24 |
| Tonio_ | seele: didn't see many problems with kpackagekit for the moment | 13:25 |
| seele | Tonio_: do you have a minute to try something? searching for "game" works, but searching for "games" gives me some backend forking error | 13:26 |
| seele | ack.. wtf. now if i search for game again it gives me the forking error | 13:26 |
| seele | Tonio_: since it works on yours, i dont know if i have something screwed up or if it is a bug | 13:26 |
| jpds | ScottK: Needs source changes, I'll do the process described at help.u.c and get it done asap. | 13:28 |
| ScottK | jpds: OK. I guess i missed that in the bug. BTW, MOTU can upload source backports now, so you can just do it. | 13:29 |
| Tm_T | hmmmm, does motu still use revu? | 13:29 |
| Tm_T | I apparently got revu account 3 years ago | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | or something | 13:30 |
| * freeflying seldom use ruve now | 13:30 | |
| ScottK | Tm_T: Yes. For new packages, but it uses your LP ID now. | 13:30 |
| jpds | ScottK: I don't have to do the stuff at: http://tinyurl.com/a5dpjx - just fire and forget? | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: I thought so | 13:30 |
| freeflying | ScottK: I can upload new package directly? is it? | 13:31 |
| ScottK | jpds: Since you're a backporter, you can skip the attach the debdiff and have it reviewed step as you can do your own review. | 13:32 |
| ScottK | freeflying: Even MOTU are recommended to get their packages reviewed. | 13:32 |
| freeflying | ScottK: I just sposor upload for others from revu, is it ok? | 13:34 |
| * freeflying need to learn more to catch up | 13:34 | |
| * vorian has his packages reviewed | 13:34 | |
| ScottK | freeflying: For non-MOTU it needs two MOTU to advocate for a new package, so if you're the second, certainly. | 13:34 |
| vorian | what needs reviewed? | 13:35 |
| vorian | I have some time while i try and fix kdeartwork | 13:35 |
| jpds | ScottK: OK; I'll get that done this evening. | 13:35 |
| freeflying | ScottK: is there any workflow documented now? thanks | 13:36 |
| ScottK | freeflying: I'm sure there is, but I'm not sure where. I'd ask on #ubuntu-motu. | 13:36 |
| ScottK | jpds: Great. | 13:36 |
| * ScottK sees kgrubeditor on the component mismatches list. Does it need a MIR? | 13:37 | |
| Tonio_ | seele: currently buildging policykit-kde from svn.... I'll let you know if that works | 13:38 |
| Riddell | ScottK: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportKgrubeditor | 13:39 |
| Riddell | "Moved back into universe due to unresolved issues. Incompatibility with our standard grub configuration seems like a serious issue to me." | 13:39 |
| Riddell | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgrubeditor/+bug/262309 | 13:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 262309 in kgrubeditor "kgrubeditor MIR" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:40 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Sounds like it ought to be unseeded then. | 13:40 |
| Riddell | I think we still hope to get it back into main, artimis seems to be saying he'll make the necessary changes | 13:42 |
| seele | is there a kubuntu meeting planned before the end of january? | 13:46 |
| ScottK | OK. So it doesn't hurt to leave it seeded in the meantime? | 13:47 |
| ScottK | What's up with KDE on amd64 anyone? | 13:47 |
| vorian | ScottK: it's just running slow | 13:47 |
| ScottK | OK | 13:47 |
| vorian | all the important packages didn't finish first | 13:47 |
| ScottK | Of course. | 13:47 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 13:47 |
| vorian | np | 13:47 |
| Tonio_ | seele: no issues searching either "game" or "games" here... | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | seele: maybe that's a packagekit issue, not the kde part... | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I'm running jaunty, so more recent version of packagekit | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | seele: also the kpackagekit content change a lot since the uds and my packages... | 13:49 |
| seele | Tonio_: ok. i might have to just look at it in vb then | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | seele: policykit-kde content sorry, so it might give better results... | 13:49 |
| seele | hum.. ok. we'll have to review it then | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | seele: do you run a jaunty virtual machine or so ? | 13:49 |
| seele | Tonio_: not at the moment | 13:51 |
| Tonio_ | seele: oki | 13:51 |
| seele | i'm on a business trip now, so i'll have to set it up when i get back later this week | 13:51 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I'll test on my side and will let you know about the technical review... I'll let you do the usability stuff :) | 13:52 |
| seele | Tonio_: right. that's what colomar and I are working on, we just ran in to problems doing stuff :) | 13:52 |
| Tonio_ | seele: hehe, I just hope it'll work for you as I can't test on intrepid | 13:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: very good news, we can now manage policyit permissions within kde :) | 14:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, seele: I have to say policykit-kde just works :) | 14:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably upload to review toonight | 14:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: couple of bugs though.... I have to authenticate twice to get it to work... | 14:03 |
| Tonio_ | seele: uploading on my ppa, in case you want it to work... | 14:03 |
| Riddell | awooga | 14:04 |
| seele | Tonio_: jaunty only though? not intrepid? | 14:05 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I'll upload on my ppa for intrepid | 14:09 |
| Tonio_ | seele: then on jaunty | 14:09 |
| Tonio_ | once the packaging has been reviewed | 14:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: still missing a couple of desktop files looks like | 14:09 |
| seele | Tonio_: cool | 14:09 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Does it handle debconf and stuff? | 14:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fancy testing ? I can send you the deb file | 14:11 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK of course not :) | 14:11 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK it exports debian_frontend=non-interractive | 14:11 |
| * ScottK thinks that's a very bad idea. | 14:11 | |
| * ScottK considers it a very 'Xandros' thing to do. | 14:12 | |
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| Tonio_ | ScottK I consider debconf stuff too complicated for my mother | 14:15 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK and people that want to play with debconf are generally using apt-get the cli way (I do that) | 14:16 |
| * ScottK too, but one never knows for sure when it will come up. | 14:16 | |
| Tonio_ | ScottK what will your mother respond when she installs a package that depends on openldap for example | 14:16 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK will she respond the "type in your DC name" question ? | 14:16 |
| ScottK | I would consider it a rare situation for a desktop, but just punting is the wrong answer. | 14:17 |
| Tonio_ | or the "the file /etc/blabla has ben modified by you or a script, which version to keep ??" | 14:17 |
| Tonio_ | there is just no way for them to respond this.... so we have to make it silent... | 14:17 |
| ScottK | Which one do we keep? | 14:17 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 14:17 |
| * ScottK doesn't recall which way non-interactive leans. | 14:18 | |
| Tonio_ | ScottK it accepts the default choice for everything | 14:18 |
| Tonio_ | which can be bad in some cases, true | 14:18 |
| Tonio_ | we have to handle the cases it can be problematic | 14:18 |
| Tonio_ | but what is bad for us is 10 times better for the user, so I prefer this really | 14:19 |
| ScottK | I'd consider arbitrarily over-writing user config changes bad. | 14:19 |
| Tonio_ | it won't, since the default is to keep the current file | 14:19 |
| Tonio_ | which in 99% of the cases is fine | 14:19 |
| ScottK | Is it? | 14:19 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 14:20 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:20 |
| mok0 | Version 0.10 of Stellarium is in REVU. This is a major new version written to use QT4. I am going to review it and it would be good if a couple of other MOTUs would track it too, so we can get it into JJ | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | is some rare case, where the config file has new options, then it'll cause problems, and we'll have to handle those very rare case, I agree on that point | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | but that's very, very rare | 14:20 |
| ScottK | OK. That is exacly what Xandros did. | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK and I approve this way to do things | 14:20 |
| * ScottK doesn't like it a bit. | 14:21 | |
| Tonio_ | ScottK installing a package should be silent, as it is on a mac | 14:21 |
| vorian | mok0: looking | 14:21 |
| ScottK | And when there's a sane way to do it, that's great. | 14:21 |
| * ScottK notes it's a regression too. | 14:21 | |
| mok0 | vorian, you also should look at http://www.stellarium.org | 14:21 |
| vorian | haha | 14:22 |
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| vorian | mok0: i almost grabbed this app | 14:22 |
| mok0 | vorian: for packaging? | 14:22 |
| vorian | yep | 14:23 |
| mok0 | vorian: so you are interested in reviewing too | 14:23 |
| vorian | yes | 14:23 |
| mok0 | vorian: great. | 14:23 |
| mok0 | vorian: the packager has eliminated a bunch of patches, I think that needs to be checked | 14:24 |
| vorian | excellent | 14:24 |
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| vorian | mok0: commented | 14:46 |
| mok0 | vorian: woot! | 14:46 |
| mok0 | vorian: trying to install it on my machine | 14:46 |
| vorian | mok0: it should install fine for you, but i'm concerned about the patches | 14:47 |
| mok0 | vorian: yeah | 14:47 |
| mok0 | me too | 14:47 |
| vorian | it's hard for me to believe that 9 patches could be dropped, and the reason for removal was not documented in the change log | 14:48 |
| mok0 | vorian: exactly | 14:48 |
| mok0 | vorian: we need to figure out what those patches were doing | 14:48 |
| mok0 | vorian: but most likely they no longer apply cleanly, so uploader just dropped them | 14:49 |
| vorian | right | 14:49 |
| vorian | mok0: i'll keep an eye on it. He can have two weeks. | 14:49 |
| mok0 | vorian: sounds good | 14:50 |
| vorian | it should be updated soon though | 14:50 |
| vorian | yup yup | 14:50 |
| vorian | :) | 14:50 |
| mok0 | I'll investigate som more | 14:50 |
| vorian | excellent | 14:50 |
| vorian | thanks mok0! | 14:50 |
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| davmor2 | Riddell: good news it starts up however on cd desktop there is a warning. Sorry the program "nepomukservicetub" closed unexpectedly. | 14:58 |
| mok0 | I'd like to see bug 288740 closed for JJ | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 288740 in kdebase "logitechmouse udev rules not working " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288740 | 15:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fancy reviewing policykit-kde on revu ? | 15:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: even buggy we should get it in the repos, as it won't replace anything existing, there's no risk | 15:55 |
| Riddell | ok | 15:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just uploaded, I'll give you the link | 15:57 |
| ScottK | vorian: Server Team meeting in ~a few minutes (after TB meeting finishes) in #ubuntu-meeting. | 16:00 |
| vorian | ScottK: thanks :) | 16:00 |
| vorian | putting the finishing touches on kdeartwork | 16:00 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: ubiquity crashes on exit | 16:01 |
| Riddell | grump | 16:01 |
| Riddell | davmor2: make sure to report a bug on that | 16:01 |
| davmor2 | trying to upload it now | 16:02 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: bug 316800 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Bug 316800 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/316800 is private | 16:07 |
| * seele smacks her forehead | 16:07 | |
| seele | NOW they decide that they have time to help with design | 16:07 |
| seele | and guess what.. they want to work on kpackagekit | 16:07 |
| * seele writes an email THANK YOU FOR BEING SO LATE SIRS | 16:07 | |
| davmor2 | Riddell: changed privacy | 16:08 |
| Riddell | "they"? | 16:08 |
| seele | Riddell: some german design group who was working with TT and matthias was trying to get to contribute to kde | 16:08 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I've let evand know too | 16:09 |
| seele | oh interesting.. i *also* got an email from one of the apilink devs who want to work on kpackagekit | 16:09 |
| * apachelogger waves | 16:10 | |
| Riddell | all the rage | 16:11 |
| seele | i hope all this stuff wraps up well by february.. i dont think i'm going to have time once school starts | 16:11 |
| seele | i'm already putting more time in the kde/kubuntu than my job.. although "replacing time" is more accurate :P | 16:12 |
| * jussi01 waves | 16:15 | |
| Riddell | davmor2: doesn't look KDE specific, have you tried the GTK one as well? | 16:19 |
| * Riddell hugs seele | 16:20 | |
| davmor2 | Riddell: not today no | 16:20 |
| seele | oooh hugs | 16:24 |
| * seele hugs Riddell | 16:24 | |
| * LaserJock hugs whoever did the new choqok | 16:33 | |
| davmor2 | Riddell: general faulty I'll try again tomorrow | 16:34 |
| Riddell | davmor2: phew :) | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: you have been hugged | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: it appears to me revu ate your policykit upload, btw, I think It's better if someone else reviews it, so Riddell can let it through new | 16:39 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: why? and how can I escape? :) | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: apparently LaserJock luvs the nu choqok, and I think there is no escape | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | mvo made a pretty b0rked changelog entry :| | 16:42 |
| neversfelde | choqoK is very buggy here, probably I should delete the config files | 16:43 |
| LaserJock | i created a new config | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde, LaserJock: the compability problems are only config related? | 16:46 |
| seaLne | Riddell: i get "/etc/zsh/zshrc:12: unknown parameter: terminfo" and no terminal setup happens pgup backspace etc, happens with bash aswell, happened recently now 2 machines (only ones updated recently) | 16:46 |
| LaserJock | apachelogger: what do you mean by "compatibility problems"? | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | LaserJock: AFAIK upgrading from choqok 0.1 -> 0.2 broke choqok pretty much and now apparently 0.2 -> 0.3 does again | 16:47 |
| LaserJock | apachelogger: it didn't like my intial config. I just recreated my accounts (as the config dialog is totally different) and it's working fine so far | 16:48 |
| Riddell | seaLne: there's no recent update of ncurses | 16:48 |
| LaserJock | I got both twitter and identi.ca \o/ | 16:48 |
| vorian | apachelogger: its 0.3.1 (which was supposed to not break the config) | 16:48 |
| vorian | ^5 LaserJock | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | well | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | a config should _never_ break | 16:49 |
| Riddell | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2009-January/thread.html maybe glibc or linux could affect something like terminfo | 16:49 |
| * apachelogger probably should tell upstream about kconf_update | 16:49 | |
| LaserJock | apachelogger: well, I figure since this app is so new I'd give them some slack ;-) | 16:50 |
| seaLne | Riddell: yeah its weird i've not had any thoughts on the cause | 16:50 |
| * LaserJock lets apachelogger be the bad guy | 16:50 | |
| * apachelogger notes that amarok never did that, not even in early releases, basically also because amarok didn't have any configuration :P | 16:50 | |
| Riddell | seaLne: but you think it happened after an apt-get upgrade ? | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: pling | 16:51 |
| neversfelde | config deleted and now it is totally broken^^ | 16:51 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: plong | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: already done? | 16:51 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: nope - query | 16:51 |
| seaLne | Riddell: yeah on one machine that has been up for a while it is fine in existing shells but any new ones are broken on another machine that has been rebooted lots it happens all the time | 16:52 |
| Riddell | seaLne: what's in find /var/cache/apt/archive -mtime 0 ? | 16:53 |
| seaLne | nothing (archives) | 16:54 |
| Riddell | -mtime 1 ? | 16:55 |
| Riddell | or increasing values of mtime? | 16:55 |
| seaLne | nothing obvious | 16:55 |
| ScottK | Are we shipping kpilot? | 16:57 |
| ScottK | http://movingparts.net/2009/01/13/kpilot-42-progress/ | 16:57 |
| seaLne | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/104432/ | 16:57 |
| Riddell | seaLne: none of those look like the cause | 16:58 |
| seaLne | yeah, the fact that i just noticed that it is happening n my other machine with new shells worried me more than it happening on one machine, very annoying tho | 16:59 |
| stdin | Riddell: on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0 it says: "Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide to enable Recommended Updates (backports)", but backports would be Unsupported updates | 17:04 |
| astromme_ | vorian: Are the RC1 packages built completely? sudo aptitude full-upgrade shows lots of breakage. (mainly in kdepim) | 17:05 |
| vorian | not quite yet astromme_, there are a tone of things waiting to be built | 17:05 |
| vorian | it's going rather slowly :( | 17:06 |
| astromme_ | vorian: Is there a way to see the build queue? | 17:06 |
| vorian | launchpad.net/+builds | 17:06 |
| * astromme_ lols... ia64 110 builds waiting in queue | 17:08 | |
| * astromme_ uses amd64 however, which only has 36 in queue | 17:08 | |
| astromme_ | Hmm, I can see what it's currently building and the number in queue, but is there a way to see the actual queue? | 17:10 |
| stdin | astromme_: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending | 17:15 |
| astromme_ | stdin: Thanks, that's what I was looking for. | 17:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, my package won't reach revu for some reason I have to investigate... | 17:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: mind if I upload to the archives ? | 17:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the packaging is super simple, and has no patch... | 17:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: upload it to a web server somewhere for us to look over | 17:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yup | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | oh well | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | I fixed gdebi-kde's icon | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | that is about all good news | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | plasma crashes for unkown reasons and can't produce a sensible backtrace itself | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | vorian's kdm.init change breaks kdm if LANG= is not set in /etc/environment | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | which is never the case on default intallations anyway it seems | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | and yakuake is doing the popup dance | 17:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dget http://planetemu.net/temp/policykit-kde_4.1.96~svn910476-0ubuntu1.dsc | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: bad versioning | 17:23 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ah ? | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: I talked to drf, and he's going to do backport releases, kinda like he did for powerdevil | 17:23 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: how would you version this ? | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: 0.0+svn | 17:24 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: that's for jaunty and 4.2 | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: yeah, drf will backport release policykit-kde for KDE 4.2, while policykit-kde actualyl targets 4.3 | 17:24 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: 403 Forbidden | 17:24 |
| Tonio_ | we use + now ? I've always used ~ for years ;) | 17:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah..... lemme fix | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: + makes it > $baseversion, ~ makes it < $baseversion | 17:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should be okay | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | doesn't really matter but I find the idea of a version number lower than 0 a bit weird ;-) | 17:25 |
| ScottK | apachelogger and Tonio_: Either can be appropriate, but to use ~ you need to know what the next upstream release will be. | 17:25 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I want it < $baseversion | 17:25 |
| * ScottK used ~ in the git snapshot of quassel he packaged. | 17:26 | |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: well, baseversion should be 0.0 | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | or 0.1 for that matter | 17:26 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: so you'd version it 0.0+svn910476 ? | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: yep | 17:26 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: honnestly, as this is temporary, I don't see the point :) | 17:26 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I'll upload a 4.2 version in 3 weeks :) | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | that is if upstream versions it as 4.2 | 17:27 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: yep, and since the version I took was from kde svn, it makes sence versioning 4.1.96 imho :) | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: policykit-kde is not going to be part of KDE 4.2 | 17:28 |
| Tonio_ | I could even drop the svn revision in fact... | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | it was rejected from kdereview because no one reviewed it in time | 17:28 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: it is in extragear, btw | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: yes, but it doesn't have version 4.1.96, does it? :P | 17:28 |
| Tonio_ | nope :) | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | that is my point | 17:29 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: still on 4.2 feature plan afaics | 17:29 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: did that change ? | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: read above | 17:29 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: and there's no way to get it reviewed in time ? that sucks... | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | nope | 17:29 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: 3 weeks before the release.... so stupid... | 17:30 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: then I agree with your point, let's version 0.0 waiting for an official one | 17:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: doesn't need to depend on quilt | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | vorian: ping ping | 17:31 |
| vorian | pon pong | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | vorian: why does var=$(grep "^LANG=" /etc/environment) | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | make the init fail? | 17:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah !!! quilt was droped rom kde.mk ? good to ear | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: just made optional :P | 17:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I didn't package for a couple of month, I didn't figure out that | 17:31 |
| Riddell | "This package was debianised by Anthony Mercatante <tonio@@ubuntu.com> on" | 17:31 |
| Riddell | double @ | 17:32 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: which is cool | 17:32 |
| ScottK | Cuts down on spam | 17:32 |
| Riddell | THIS_SHOULD_GO_TO_UNSTABLE not needed | 17:32 |
| vorian | apachelogger: no language environment | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | vorian: well, read above ... default ubuntu wouldn't have it there anyway ... but I wonder why it makes the whole script fail | 17:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: this also removed, and good to ear too :) | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | vorian: I am not sure LANG is the way to go anyway | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | vorian: much to unreliable since technically it could be set anywhere | 17:33 |
| * Tonio_ realizes that leaving 4 weeks means having to learn everything again... | 17:33 | |
| vorian | true | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | ah | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | I see | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | vorian: gdm does it the same way though | 17:34 |
| vorian | hmmmm | 17:34 |
| vorian | very interesting | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | kdm is superior to gdm though, so there ought to be a better solution ;-) | 17:34 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, hola | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | vorian: well, their shell is better than ours it looks | 17:34 |
| NCommander | ScottK, the 96 issue is an ICE. I'm seeing if I can beg doko to look at it | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | *stealing code* | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | aloha NCommander | 17:35 |
| NCommander | ScottK, not much I can do from my end | 17:35 |
| vorian | i say for now we didtch the change until a sane solution can be found, apachelogger | 17:35 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, please send something to my core dev application, its had two fatal shots taken at it | 17:35 |
| NCommander | :-P | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | vorian: I'll try the gmd approach, it ought to work considering it is in their init script for quite some time now | 17:35 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Urgh. Thanks for looking at it. | 17:35 |
| vorian | okie | 17:35 |
| * ScottK notes to apachelogger the gdm and gmd are two very different things. | 17:36 | |
| NCommander | ScottK, yeah, its officially out of my ballpark. | 17:36 |
| * vorian wonders what suse's init is ... | 17:36 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I have $unreadable font today :P | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | vorian: they don't do init, they start yast, yast starts world, world starts universe, universe starts sue :P | 17:36 |
| vorian | ohmy | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: I didn't really sponsor much ... so I can just say what I noticed from hanging out here, which might not be enough | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | of course if someone tells me to make stuff up.... ;-) | 17:37 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, you sponsored me plenty | 17:37 |
| ScottK | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: for example? | 17:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dget http://planetemu.net/temp/policykit-kde_0.0+svn910476-0ubuntu1.dsc | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: they might have been too good, which would explain that I can't remember :) | 17:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sorry for the issues, I'll have to re-learn the current kde packaging things :) | 17:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: all fixed including the versioning | 17:38 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: fancy reviewing too ? | 17:38 |
| Riddell | nobody makes perfect packages first time round | 17:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: true that, but those issues should have been avoided, as some things changed :) | 17:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: then you should drop libpackagekit-qt and kpackagekit from NEW | 17:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: they have the same issues | 17:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll fix them in a moment.... while fixing my revu upload issues | 17:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: W: policykit-kde: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libpolkitkdeprivate.so.4.1.0 usr/lib/libpolkitkdeprivate.so | 17:39 |
| Notch-1 | hi all, should you take a look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/292159 ? | 17:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 292159 in linux "MASTER update-initramfs is disabled since running on a live CD but it is running from a flash drive. " [Low,Triaged] | 17:40 |
| Riddell | no need to include the .so | 17:40 |
| Riddell | Notch-1: we do KDE here, Linux isn't our bag baby | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: there is a -dev package for pk-gnome IIRC, we probably should do the same | 17:40 |
| Notch-1 | here in kubuntu-devel you do only kde? :D | 17:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if it's called "private" it shouldn't be made available I suspect | 17:41 |
| Notch-1 | this bug is affecting only kubuntu, i think | 17:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, yeah but do I have to write a rules entry to get it removed ? | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: generally speaking I was | 17:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: making the packaging more complex to avoid warnings..... sounds weird no ? | 17:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: this isn't a splited package... | 17:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: or even better, should I patch the CMake files ? | 17:42 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I think that's worth fixing else people might be tempted to use it | 17:43 |
| Riddell | I don't know if CMake can be changed to not install the .so | 17:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well my mother wouldn't :) | 17:43 |
| Notch-1 | Riddell: so ? | 17:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fixing ;) | 17:46 |
| Riddell | Notch-1: I don't see why that would be Kubuntu specific, the Linux build is the same for all the variants | 17:47 |
| Notch-1 | it seems to affect only kubuntu | 17:48 |
| Notch-1 | there has to be a reason... | 17:49 |
| Notch-1 | AND on #linux i got: "zcram » that's ubuntu-specific" | 17:50 |
| Notch-1 | is an update problem, so i think that's very specific too... | 17:51 |
| Riddell | right, ubuntu specific, not Kubuntu, we are but one part of the larger Ubuntu family | 17:54 |
| Notch-1 | i think that in ubuntu it works fine | 17:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dget http://planetemu.net/temp/policykit-kde_0.0+svn910476-0ubuntu1.dsc | 17:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: this one should be good, then I'm fixing libpackagekit and kpackagekit | 17:57 |
| Riddell | " Initiali SVN snapshot" typo | 17:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: all good otherwise | 17:58 |
| Notch-1 | on the bug page it seems that are all using kubuntu... | 17:59 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 18:00 |
| * ScottK spies 4.1.4 in the build queue. | 18:00 | |
| seele | is it possible to downgrade? | 18:01 |
| * seele doesnt want to run 4.2 beta 2 anymore Q.Q | 18:01 | |
| Riddell | seele: you can uninstall kdelibs5 then reinstall again, entirely unsupported of course | 18:01 |
| Riddell | 4.2 RC 1 should be out later | 18:01 |
| Riddell | later today | 18:02 |
| seele | oh.. RC 1 is good. i've been using neon for the past week because beta was too annoying | 18:03 |
| seele | please.. next time i talk about upgrading my work laptop to do software testing, someone hit me over the head | 18:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki, uploading then | 18:05 |
| * jussi01 thwacks seele for last time... :P | 18:09 | |
| apachelogger | seele: you shouldn't be upgrading before me :P | 18:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you drop the packaging stuf in new ? I'll fix my revu problem and get them there toonight | 18:11 |
| Riddell | drop? | 18:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: they have the same "this should go unstable" thing | 18:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: they shouldn't go in the archives since packaging is not good :) | 18:13 |
| Riddell | always the perfectionist | 18:14 |
| seele | apachelogger: lol | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | wahhh | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | no highlights | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | I am working in the shell where I started plasma | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | now my vim is all messed up :P | 18:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: bah, I did crappy work.... | 18:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: or you can accept them and I'll fix later.... the packages are ready btw | 18:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dget http://planetemu.net/temp/libpackagekit-qt_0.3.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 18:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dget http://www.planetemu.net/temp/kpackagekit_0.3.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 18:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can review those and then I'll upload | 18:20 |
| * Tonio_ going home, waiting for Riddell ping to upload | 18:20 | |
| cbr | any idea why does kwin start to use 70% cpu after i watch a video with mplayerplug-in in firefox? | 18:28 |
| cbr | when i toggle compositing off and on again, it's normal again | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | overload of uglysoftware | 18:29 |
| cbr | okay, now i listened to a music track in mplayerplug-in.. no video.. and it started to abuse my cpu again | 18:29 |
| cbr | kwin did, i mean | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | overload of uglysoftware again | 18:29 |
| cbr | well, it sucks but there is no alternative to mplayerplug-in in firefox | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | sure there is | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | dragonplayer in konqueror | 18:30 |
| cbr | konqueror is not an option to be honest | 18:30 |
| jussi01 | mozilla-plugin-vlc | 18:30 |
| Sput | oO | 18:30 |
| cbr | it lacks so many stuff compared to firefox | 18:30 |
| Sput | more of an option than firefox | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: that would still cause overload of uglysoftware | 18:31 |
| cbr | the vlc plugin has no controls and plays stuff even more seldom than mplayerplug-in | 18:31 |
| * Sput wonders how people can survive using firefox | 18:31 | |
| apachelogger | firefox is so ugly you would need feed it all the oxygen team to make it not cuase overload of uglysoftware | 18:31 |
| cbr | i use it with the oxygen gtk theme | 18:31 |
| cbr | it's okay | 18:31 |
| cbr | and konqueror is extremely ugly compared to ff | 18:31 |
| Sput | except it's gtk, hence ugly | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | _the_ oxygen gtk theme | 18:32 |
| cbr | look at the options.. i know people who would call it a clusterf*** | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | is the ugliest of all | 18:32 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, I use firefox on KDE all the time ;-) | 18:32 |
| NCommander | and thunderbird too | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | there, no sponsoring for you anymore | 18:32 |
| cbr | also, konq lacks addons, smartcard support to name a few | 18:32 |
| cbr | plus it looks worse | 18:33 |
| NCommander | No KDE on ARM then apachelogger ;-) | 18:33 |
| cbr | also konq doesnt officially support gmail | 18:33 |
| * apachelogger wouldn't benefit anyway | 18:33 | |
| jussi01 | I just want the konq with webkit+flash... | 18:33 |
| * apachelogger just wants standards | 18:33 | |
| NCommander | apachelogger, think of your users!! KDE on ARM is important to some of them | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: my feet are cold ... literally ... so no time to think of users | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | bah, pbuilder creation failed | 18:35 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, that's karma, and its a bitch | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | ~karma | 18:36 |
| kubotu | karma for apachelogger: 4 | 18:36 |
| jussi01 | how do you reduce someones karma? (dont you dare do it to me apachelogger) :P | 18:37 |
| cbr | i wish you could use the kmplayer plugin in firefox | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: hum, dunno, I can show you though :P | 18:38 |
| * jussi01 guesses... | 18:38 | |
| jussi01 | -- apachelogger | 18:38 |
| jussi01 | meh | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | karmastats | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | ~karmastats | 18:39 |
| kubotu | 223 items. Best: C (74); Worst: > (-22) | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | C++ | 18:40 |
| jussi01 | who has 74? | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | C | 18:40 |
| jussi01 | oh | 18:40 |
| jussi01 | ~karma Riddell | 18:40 |
| kubotu | karma for Riddell: 2 | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | ~karma JontheEchidna | 18:40 |
| kubotu | karma for JontheEchidna: 7 | 18:40 |
| jussi01 | ~karma jussi01 | 18:41 |
| kubotu | jussi01 has neutral karma | 18:41 |
| jussi01 | damn, I need some karma | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | ~karma jussi01 | 18:43 |
| kubotu | karma for jussi01: -1 | 18:43 |
| jussi01 | :( | 18:43 |
| jussi01 | *sniff* | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: I thought you wanted karma? | 18:44 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: yeah, karma, not negative karma! | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: karma can be both | 18:45 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: when are the RC1 packages ready do you know? | 18:46 |
| apachelogger | when I unbroke them :P | 18:47 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | and since I have cold feet that could take some time | 18:47 |
| * jussi01 stops distracting apachelogger | 18:47 | |
| * seele gets apachelogger some slippers | 18:47 | |
| seele | RC1 gogogogo! | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | \o/ slippers | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | nhandler, JontheEchidna: someone backport workspace for poor seele and her broken workspace | 18:48 |
| JontheEchidna | the intrepid packages are all built and ready to be copied | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: not if you based workspace on the jaunty package | 18:51 |
| apachelogger | that breaks kdm on loads of systems | 18:51 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, shit. | 18:51 |
| JontheEchidna | that would be bad | 18:52 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, have we replaced adept with kpackagekit yet? | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | nope | 19:08 |
| NCommander | are we planning to? | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: tonio sent the packaging url earlier | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | feel free to review it | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | also, we need it in miain before we can replace adept I guess | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | *main even | 19:09 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, I'll put it on my wishlist TODO list | 19:10 |
| DaSkreech | RC today? | 19:19 |
| seele | sshh.. ninjas at work | 19:19 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: [20:46:51] <jussi01> apachelogger: when are the RC1 packages ready do you know? | 19:20 |
| jussi01 | [20:47:07] <apachelogger> when I unbroke them :P | 19:20 |
| DaSkreech | Whee for unbreakage! | 19:20 |
| DaSkreech | how badly blody broke ? | 19:20 |
| jussi01 | [20:49:55] <JontheEchidna> the intrepid packages are all built and ready to be copied | 19:21 |
| jussi01 | [20:50:06] --> devfil_ (n=dfiloni@host186-254-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #kubuntu-devel | 19:21 |
| jussi01 | [20:51:16] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: not if you based workspace on the jaunty package | 19:21 |
| jussi01 | [20:51:20] <apachelogger> that breaks kdm on loads of systems | 19:21 |
| jussi01 | [20:51:33] <JontheEchidna> oh, shit. | 19:21 |
| jussi01 | ok, I now apologise for all the hilights... | 19:21 |
| Tm_T | awww | 19:21 |
| DaSkreech | Does anyone use KDM? | 19:22 |
| DaSkreech | really? | 19:22 |
| DaSkreech | console login and kdeinit ftw | 19:22 |
| * jussi01 slaps DaSkreech | 19:23 | |
| DaSkreech | Why would there be such a discrepancy for Jackalope and Ibex packages ? | 19:23 |
| Tm_T | KDM <3 | 19:24 |
| DaSkreech | Istill want to theme the logout dialog | 19:26 |
| DaSkreech | I should put up a userbase page for awesome things KDE should do | 19:27 |
| * DaSkreech wonders how long before someone makes a taskbar that replicates Windows 7 | 19:27 | |
| DaSkreech | Oh why didn't the beta 2 ship with slideshow for wallpapers? | 19:27 |
| Tm_T | I thought we got already | 19:27 |
| DaSkreech | We did? where? | 19:31 |
| * DaSkreech should put up an Ubuntu Wiki page on what sucks in Kubunt | 19:39 | |
| Tm_T | DaSkreech: please do | 19:39 |
| DaSkreech | are we planning on backporting the plasmodified knetworkmanager ? | 19:39 |
| Tm_T | DaSkreech: backporting to what? | 19:40 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: not till it works good... | 19:41 |
| jussi01 | Ive latest svn and it still sucks | 19:41 |
| seele | doesnt the knetworkmanager plasmoid require the new version of knetworkmanager which only works in 4.2? | 19:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: did you look at he packages ? | 19:44 |
| * Tonio_ look why he can't upload to revu... | 19:44 | |
| Tonio_ | seele: I have been able to play with the plasmoid, but there are lots of bugs right now... | 19:48 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I suspect the solid backend needs 4.2 stable, so maybe it'll work right now... | 19:48 |
| seele | Tonio_: right. i think DaSkreech was talking about making it available for 4.1.4 which i didnt think was possible :) | 19:49 |
| Tonio_ | seele: I suspect it won't indeed :) | 19:51 |
| Tonio_ | seele: the point is it even doesn't work properly with 4.2 :) | 19:51 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01: Latest svn as in SVn 4.2 or svn 4.3 ? | 19:51 |
| seele | Tonio_: right :) | 19:51 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: hrm... the one in sebas' post about it... | 19:52 |
| DaSkreech | seele: Oh no :-) I've been working getting everyone off 4.1 to 4.2 :) | 19:52 |
| DaSkreech | 4.2 is doing wonders for impressions | 19:52 |
| seele | DaSkreech: not too soon now. i can't wait to get rid of 4.2 beta 2 | 19:52 |
| seele | either by downgrade or upgrade | 19:52 |
| DaSkreech | your dislike for wonky notifications notwithstanding | 19:52 |
| DaSkreech | well today is the day for update :0 | 19:52 |
| DaSkreech | assuming that you care about KDM :) | 19:52 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01: Trunk is now 4.3 correct? | 19:53 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: think so.. which is why it might be it doesnt work... | 19:53 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I would expect trunk to be horribly broken about now | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | the plasmoid is made to work with 4.2, trunk 4.3 being shouldn't be the issue | 19:54 |
| * DaSkreech tries very hard to unravel that sentence | 19:55 | |
| * JontheEchidna was being pestered by someone when he typed that | 19:55 | |
| JontheEchidna | the plasmoid is made to work with 4.2, trunk being 4.3 shouldn't be an issue | 19:56 |
| * seele is confuse what is confusing about the sentence | 20:02 | |
| DaSkreech | ;-) | 20:03 |
| DaSkreech | I'll read the blog post again I was pretty sure that it was a 4.3 project | 20:03 |
| JontheEchidna | well, that's when it's going for inclusion | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | but they're gonna keep it 4.2 compatible so that 4.2 distros can use it without having to wait for 4.3 | 20:05 |
| DaSkreech | Ah sweet so it's more of a side port? | 20:19 |
| sebas | jussi01: if you don't want to hack on networkmanager, it's useless do compile it atm | 20:33 |
| * sebas said that to many people already | 20:33 | |
| jussi01 | sebas: Ive realised.... thank you :) but it does look pretty there on my pane :) | 20:34 |
| DaSkreech | hows libknotify ? | 20:35 |
| sebas | yeah, you wouldn't believe how many emails I got with "it doesn't work" this and that ... bla lately. | 20:35 |
| sebas | While I thought I made it rather clear. DOES ... NOT ... WORK. | 20:35 |
| sebas | People making it work rather than asking for support for it would be more appreciated... | 20:36 |
| jussi01 | sebas: I would if I could... | 20:36 |
| jussi01 | sebas: but I wasnt complaining, honest | 20:36 |
| sebas | I just don't get why it's so unclear | 20:37 |
| bobesponja | knotify and many stuff seem to be broken on jaunty | 20:37 |
| smarter | sebas: do you need a deep understanding of NetworkManager api to hack on it, or does being a KDE dev is enough for most of the stuff? | 20:37 |
| sebas | I've bloggged about it so people know about its status, and be patient and not spread FUD about it | 20:37 |
| sebas | Not to encourage everybody to compile it and email me with support questions and mediocre UI ideas for it | 20:37 |
| sebas | And the number of "you don't forget to implement ABC, would you?" emails is simply annoying | 20:38 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: ooooh mediocre Ideas! Sounds like a new blog post | 20:38 |
| sebas | smarter: there's a lot of low-hanging fruit to sort | 20:38 |
| sebas | I don't know the NM API myself, doing more on the UI side | 20:38 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: yeah | 20:38 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: Throw up a JJ page for it on Techbase | 20:38 |
| sebas | I was more than once tempted to just reply "of course, moron." | 20:39 |
| sebas | smarter: Having some help with the non-plasma UI bits would be really useful | 20:39 |
| * sebas goes back to releasing KDE instead. :P | 20:40 | |
| smarter | sebas: okay, I might try to hack on it a bit if I get some free time :) | 20:40 |
| sebas | Cool :) | 20:41 |
| sebas | If you run into problems, email me (sebas@k.o, wstephenson@k.o and coolo@k.o) someone will know :) | 20:41 |
| ScottK | Alpha 3 Freeze in < 1 hour, so if there's anything for Main that needs doing, it needs to get done .... | 20:41 |
| * jussi01 is happy someone has volunteered :) | 20:42 | |
| smarter | sebas: okay :) | 20:42 |
| ScottK | OK, since smarter is going to make the NM plasmoid work, k3b is the big question mark. | 20:43 |
| smarter | ScottK: uh, I didn't say that :P | 20:45 |
| smarter | might give a hand, but after viewing the TODO I guess it would require a lot more to get it ready | 20:46 |
| doc__ | hi there | 20:46 |
| ScottK | You're young and energetic. | 20:46 |
| smarter | ScottK: but got tons of exams :p | 20:47 |
| ScottK | Yes, and? | 20:47 |
| smarter | less time for KDE | 20:47 |
| ScottK | Bah. You need to work on your priorities. | 20:48 |
| ScottK | Less time for sleep, maybe. | 20:48 |
| DaSkreech | :-D | 20:49 |
| smarter | I'm already über sleepy all the time, any less night sleep would mean that I'd sleep at school d: | 20:50 |
| DaSkreech | Sleep while driving you aren't doing much then anyway | 20:52 |
| ScottK | Between the sleep and the fear induced adrenelin you're pretty awake when you get somewhere. | 20:52 |
| smarter | hehe | 20:53 |
| ulaas | hi. | 20:54 |
| DaSkreech | What are the mising bits for 9.04 ? | 20:54 |
| ulaas | latest update broke my kde4 login | 20:54 |
| ulaas | something related with kdeinit | 20:55 |
| smarter | ulaas: apt-cache showpkg kdm | 20:55 |
| DaSkreech | wow that's pretty | 20:55 |
| ulaas | no kdm is cool! after user and pass all i get is a black screen and a mouse icon | 20:55 |
| * ScottK isn't kidding. Hadn't planned on it, but did that exact thing yesterday. | 20:56 | |
| smarter | ulaas: have you checked if your disk or /home partition is full? | 20:57 |
| smarter | ScottK: driving while sleeping? :o | 20:57 |
| ScottK | Only a little bit at a time. | 20:57 |
| ulaas | smarter:this is a clean 1 part only install. so no issues there. plus i wiped my home folder as wellç | 20:57 |
| * ScottK was very tired and doesn't recommend the practice. | 20:58 | |
| ulaas | i am sure that this is from an update. however the problem is no wireless without kde. | 20:58 |
| smarter | [21:55:16] <smarter> ulaas: apt-cache showpkg kdm | 20:58 |
| ulaas | smarter: what to check? i am on windows now . yuck!!! | 20:59 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: you know that's like 1374651397 Times as dangeraous as driving drunk and 14 times as dangerous as driving dead ? | 20:59 |
| ScottK | Well if one of my kids had done what I did yesterday, I'd have grounded them. | 21:00 |
| smarter | ulaas: hmm, simpler would be dpkg -l|grep kdebase | 21:00 |
| smarter | ulaas: then report the version number you see(which should be something like 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1) | 21:00 |
| ulaas | smarter:also a way to connect wireless with wpa from console would be magic :) is there a way? | 21:00 |
| smarter | ulaas: yup, but it requires some files editing and is quiet painful to do :/ | 21:01 |
| smarter | there's probably a guide for it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com or http://help.ubuntu.com | 21:01 |
| smarter | you have to use wpasupplicant | 21:01 |
| ulaas | smarter: thanks! there i go.... | 21:02 |
| apachelogger | smarter: actually it's not really painful | 21:02 |
| smarter | apachelogger: I find it a lot more complicated than it should be | 21:03 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: Forward all questions about will WPA work to smarter :) | 21:08 |
| smarter | DaSkreech: pfff :p | 21:09 |
| DaSkreech | smarter: make a techbase JJ page | 21:09 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: OT, do you know of a nice hotel in Kingston? :) | 21:09 |
| sebas | I need a bed from Thursday to Friday | 21:09 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: Oh lord you are landing in Kingston as well? | 21:09 |
| DaSkreech | What time ? | 21:09 |
| sebas | yeah | 21:09 |
| sebas | 8pm | 21:09 |
| DaSkreech | Umm Hold on | 21:09 |
| smarter | DaSkreech: JJ? jaunty? | 21:10 |
| DaSkreech | Let see if I can get you a geek room | 21:10 |
| DaSkreech | smarter: Juniour Job | 21:10 |
| sebas | What's a geek room? | 21:10 |
| smarter | DaSkreech: oh, the TODO file of the networkmanager applet already has lots of JJs :p | 21:11 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: A member of the LUG wanting to hang out with a celebrity dev :) | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | smarter: trust me, debian makes this pretty bareable | 21:11 |
| DaSkreech | smarter: | 21:11 |
| DaSkreech | http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Kopete/JuniorJobs | 21:11 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: heh | 21:13 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Main Archive: frozen for alpha-3 | Test Upgrading! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidKDE42Upgrades | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySpecs | ||
| mrvanes | Can anybody tell me what's wrong with kdebase-runtime for amd64 at this moment? | 21:13 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: Just a nice hotel is OK for me as well | 21:13 |
| ScottK | mrvanes: Probably not built yet. | 21:14 |
| sebas | I'll be utterly wasted when I arrive, so won't be a very social guy | 21:14 |
| ScottK | amd64 builders are way behind. | 21:14 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: Alright I'll check Four seasons ? | 21:14 |
| sebas | Like ... 3 hours of sleep, then 20 hours of flying | 21:14 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: ehm, smaller, cheaper pls :) | 21:14 |
| DaSkreech | ha ha :) | 21:14 |
| sebas | At least ... how much if 4seasons over there? :P | 21:14 |
| mrvanes | Hmmm... have a completely broken apt (suggesting removal of 30 packages) at the moment... turning thumbs and waiting.... | 21:14 |
| mrvanes | because kdebase-runtime is behind... | 21:15 |
| * jussi01 is not updating till tomorrow... | 21:18 | |
| smarter | 'night everyone | 21:19 |
| mrvanes | jussi01: you resp for amd64? | 21:25 |
| ScottK | mrvanes: It's not any one person, it's an automatic system. It's just behind today. | 21:25 |
| mrvanes | ah... ok, get it... thx | 21:26 |
| mok0 | an impressive number of plasmoids are awaiting build | 21:33 |
| DaSkreech | What counts as impressive? | 21:33 |
| mok0 | DaSkreech: oh, they are just plentyful in the list | 21:33 |
| mok0 | DaSkreech: haven't counted'em | 21:34 |
| DaSkreech | I wonder if Mars land of mercy is packaged | 21:35 |
| ScottK | mok0: It's all or soon to be all of them. | 21:36 |
| ScottK | Upstream slipped a little libplasma3 abi change in on us. | 21:36 |
| mok0 | ScottK: there are a couple sitting in REVU in the "needs work" queue | 21:36 |
| ScottK | mok0: Please feel free to work on them. We want as much plasma packaged in this cycle as we can get. | 21:37 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 21:38 |
| DaSkreech | Like slideshows for the backgrounds? | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | DaSkreech: I've always hade slideshow | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | whoa, hade | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | *had | 21:39 |
| DaSkreech | To hell with it? | 21:39 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 21:39 |
| mok0 | ScottK: plasmoid-adjustableclock has build problems; if you have access to a 4.2 build environement, please give it a try (I don't) | 21:40 |
| ScottK | mok0: You don't have a Jaunty pbuilder? | 21:40 |
| mok0 | ScottK: yes, does it have 4.2 already? | 21:41 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: somewhere between 54 and 120 | 21:41 |
| DaSkreech | still looking | 21:41 |
| ScottK | mok0: 4.2 RC1 | 21:41 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: sounds ok | 21:41 |
| mok0 | ScottK: ah, well then I can try building myself | 21:41 |
| ScottK | mok0: Without looking, I'm going to guess http://paste.ubuntu.com/104469/ may be relevant. | 21:41 |
| mok0 | ScottK: thanks | 21:42 |
| ScottK | mok0: No problem. That's what I've been fixing most of the afternoon. | 21:42 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: 54 != seasons | 21:45 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: If you haven't, would you update the quassel packaging in Neon to be based on our current Jaunty package? | 21:48 |
| knusperfrosch | hi! will there be 4.2rc packages? | 21:48 |
| DaSkreech | Oh right Quassel solves Konversation | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: neon uses /opt | 21:48 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 21:48 |
| DaSkreech | knusperfrosch: Ja | 21:48 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Yes, but I was thinking about the KDE integration, the SSL cert magic, etc. | 21:49 |
| ScottK | Merge our updates in | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: neon is low-maintenance packaging :P | 21:49 |
| ScottK | The KDE integration stuff at least should be low maintenance | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | it is built with KDE integration | 21:50 |
| ScottK | I'd like to make sure it gets as widely tested as possible. | 21:50 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 21:50 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 21:50 |
| mok0 | ScottK: yup, it's the same error. Can you refer me to one of the packages you've fixed? I've never worked with cmake before | 21:51 |
| ScottK | Anything in the archive that starts with plasmoid. | 21:52 |
| ScottK | mok0: How about plasmoid-spellcheck | 21:53 |
| mok0 | ScottK: ok will take a look. | 21:53 |
| ScottK | mok0: IIRC you're a quilt fanboy, so it should be easy enough. | 21:54 |
| mok0 | ScottK: I am :-) | 21:54 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: ping | 21:54 |
| sebas | DaSkreech: I'm quite easy on that, something with a bed and no bugs should do | 21:59 |
| sebas | And preferably somewhere I dare going after dark, that's actually my main concern | 22:00 |
| DaSkreech | sebas: The lug LInk has that :) I'll ask later if Thursday night is good and let you decide | 22:00 |
| sebas | Cool, thanks | 22:00 |
| ScottK | So the funny part is I had 11 uploads hit jaunty-changes today, but it was such a busy day, I only had two in a row once. | 22:03 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: fancy bumping kdebase-workspace in jaunty on amd64? | 22:03 |
| ScottK | The funny bit is that 2nd one has been sitting in New for a couple of weeks. | 22:03 |
| nixternal | DaSkreech: pong? | 22:07 |
| nixternal | make it quick, I am at work still :/ | 22:08 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Coming to Camp? | 22:08 |
| nixternal | doesn't look like it | 22:09 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: ok | 22:11 |
| mok0 | ScottK: hm, that fix made it go further, but it's missing a header file called ui_calendar.h | 22:12 |
| ScottK | mok0: Does it build-dep on kdebase-workspace-dev | 22:14 |
| mok0 | ScottK: no | 22:15 |
| * mok0 tries again | 22:15 | |
| ScottK | mok0: FYI for next time http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ui_calendar.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=jaunty&arch=any | 22:17 |
| mok0 | ScottK: ah, what a cool trick, never thought of that | 22:17 |
| jussi01 | can someone tell me where see if the builds for RC1 are done? | 22:21 |
| ScottK | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds/ | 22:24 |
| vorian | jussi01: what arch? | 22:27 |
| jussi01 | vorian: amd64 | 22:27 |
| vorian | jaunty or intrepid? | 22:27 |
| jussi01 | intrepid | 22:28 |
| vorian | you'll have just a little more time to wait | 22:28 |
| vorian | not much, things just have to finish building | 22:28 |
| jussi01 | vorian: define "a little more time" | 22:28 |
| jussi01 | :D | 22:28 |
| vorian | i wish i could | 22:28 |
| jussi01 | vorian: np. can you give me a guestimate? minutes? hours? days? | 22:30 |
| vorian | hours | 22:30 |
| vorian | maybe less | 22:30 |
| jussi01 | ok, :) | 22:30 |
| jjesse | vorian: is it safe to update my jaunty vm yet? | 22:31 |
| vorian | jjesse: heavens no | 22:31 |
| vorian | :) | 22:31 |
| jjesse | vorian: ok, i know you told me last night not to | 22:31 |
| vorian | yeah, that will be hours | 22:32 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I'm still waiting on my Jaunty partition | 22:32 |
| LaserJock | dist-upgraded this morning to see if I'd get more, but no luck on getting plasma to live | 22:32 |
| DaSkreech | LaserJock: Where does it die? | 22:36 |
| DaSkreech | My friend was having it die when it called qstardict | 22:36 |
| DaSkreech | I have no idea why it's calling that | 22:36 |
| LaserJock | well, when I log in, it just goes black | 22:36 |
| LaserJock | I see notifications and cursor, that's it | 22:37 |
| DaSkreech | LaserJock: what happens if you run plasma from the command line? | 22:38 |
| LaserJock | I don't know | 22:38 |
| LaserJock | I'll reboot here and give it a try | 22:39 |
| jussi01 | ok, laziness kicking in, quicklink to jaunty images so I can test in VB? | 22:41 |
| jussi01 | nvm, got unlazy | 22:44 |
| LaserJock | DaSkreech: well, my issue is that I have no kdebase-workspace-bin right now :-) | 22:55 |
| DaSkreech | LaserJock: Ha ha | 22:56 |
| LaserJock | next time I need to be more careful in making sure all of KDE is there before dist-upgrading :-) | 22:56 |
| LaserJock | I just say kde stuff in the list and went for it | 22:57 |
| LaserJock | s/say/saw/ | 22:57 |
| mok0 | Hm, I have a missing library. Anyone recognize undefined reference to `ClockApplet::mousePressEvent(QGraphicsSceneMouseEvent*) | 23:09 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: Riddell: at the bottom of the 4.2 rc1 release note for kubuntu s/Bit/Big | 23:10 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: fixed thanks | 23:11 |
| Riddell | pending cache | 23:11 |
| * Hobbsee tries prodding it | 23:12 | |
| cbr | how do you use the official translations of firefox in ubuntu? | 23:15 |
| cbr | are they incorporated into the package? | 23:15 |
| Riddell | support in #kubuntu or #ubuntu | 23:16 |
| Riddell | (or to say another way, we do KDE and don't know about firefox) | 23:16 |
| cbr | mkay, i thought that maybe someone has run into the same issue, np | 23:17 |
| mok0 | Does anyone have an example of a watch file to download a plasmoid tarball from kde-look.org? | 23:17 |
| vorian | mok0: it's not possible | 23:17 |
| JontheEchidna | not possible | 23:17 |
| mok0 | vorian: damn | 23:18 |
| JontheEchidna | darn, beat :P | 23:18 |
| vorian | hehe | 23:18 |
| mok0 | ... and everything has to be re-tarred? | 23:20 |
| mok0 | from kde-looks I mean | 23:20 |
| JontheEchidna | unless the author does it right (tm) | 23:21 |
| * DaSkreech prods back Hobbsee | 23:21 | |
| DaSkreech | cbr: again Waaaay more people in #kubuntu and #ubuntu to run into that issue | 23:22 |
| vorian | mok0: what is thy package? | 23:22 |
| mok0 | plasmoid_adjustableclock | 23:23 |
| mok0 | vorian: another revu loot | 23:23 |
| vorian | yours or are you reviewing it? | 23:23 |
| mok0 | vorian: I am trying to build ti | 23:24 |
| nhandler | mok0: I just subscribe to the package on kde-look so I get notified by email when they upload a new version. | 23:24 |
| Riddell | aren't all clocks adjustable? | 23:24 |
| mok0 | nhandler: ok, that's a poor substitute for uscan, thoug | 23:24 |
| vorian | haha | 23:24 |
| nhandler | mok0: I agree, but it does work | 23:25 |
| mok0 | Riddell: he, afaik it's the appearance that can be adjusted | 23:25 |
| * nhandler has kept both of his plasmoids up-to-date in that way | 23:25 | |
| vorian | mok0: linky? | 23:25 |
| mok0 | vorian: why what | 23:25 |
| vorian | link to the plasmoid page | 23:25 |
| mok0 | ah | 23:25 |
| mok0 | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-adjustableclock | 23:26 |
| mok0 | vorian: there's a much newer version available | 23:26 |
| vorian | i hope so | 23:26 |
| vorian | this package will not build | 23:27 |
| mok0 | vorian: that's what I'm trying to fix | 23:27 |
| vorian | the CMakeLists.txt will need to be fix0red | 23:27 |
| mok0 | vorian: I know, I almost have it working | 23:28 |
| mok0 | vorian: except for a linking error | 23:28 |
| * nhandler is updating to RC1 | 23:32 | |
| vorian | lucky | 23:33 |
| nhandler | Why? | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | amd64 queue for jaunty is huge liek xbox | 23:33 |
| * JontheEchidna hugs his i386 | 23:33 | |
| * nhandler has i386 too | 23:33 | |
| nhandler | and intrepid right now | 23:34 |
| vorian | jebbeez! kdeutils, kdeplasma-addons, kdesdk, kdeadmin, kdetoys, kdebase-workspace, kdebase-runtime are all still in the amd64 queue | 23:34 |
| * NCommander hugs his i386, amd64, lpia, powerpc, and armel | 23:34 | |
| NCommander | :-) | 23:34 |
| nhandler | NCommander: Want to send me a machine or two? | 23:34 |
| * nhandler needs to replace his crappy Dell Inspiron 6000 | 23:35 | |
| NCommander | the i386 is mostly dead, the amd64 is mine, and the armel is needed | 23:35 |
| NCommander | so no :-P | 23:35 |
| nhandler | :'( | 23:35 |
| NCommander | I could consider shell accounts | 23:36 |
| nhandler | But does anyone here have any ideas why I can't get a jaunty pbuilder working on intrepid? | 23:36 |
| NCommander | nhandler, whats the issue? | 23:36 |
| nhandler | NCommander: Nah, that is fine. I just want a new computer ;) | 23:36 |
| * NCommander shoots nhandler | 23:36 | |
| ScottK | nhandler: Do you have intrepid-backports enabled? | 23:36 |
| * JontheEchidna needs to replace his uber crappy Compaq Presario | 23:36 | |
| nhandler | ScottK: I should, I'll double check | 23:36 |
| NCommander | nhandler, whats the specific error with chroot creation | 23:36 |
| seele | yaay | 23:37 |
| * seele upgrades to RC | 23:37 | |
| * NCommander is trying to fix RC | 23:37 | |
| * seele hugs the kubuntu ninjas | 23:37 | |
| NCommander | ScottK, so the ICE was seemingly fixed with the last compiler upgrade | 23:37 |
| NCommander | *coughs* | 23:37 |
| nhandler | NCommander: One second, I'll run it again | 23:37 |
| NCommander | If so, I'll work on descrewing KDE RC1 | 23:37 |
| NCommander | again. | 23:37 |
| NCommander | -_-; | 23:37 |
| NCommander | As an ARM porter, i don't think KDE will ever leave my TODO list | 23:38 |
| Sput | seele: do you have a good idea how quassel's welcome screen could look like (instead of the logo area), and are willing to do a mockup for us or give us some suggestions? the idea being that the user should be able to perform important tasks right away without looking through menus | 23:38 |
| Sput | (I think that was your idea even) | 23:38 |
| seele | Sput: i can give it a whirl, but can you remind me later this week? i'm out at a conference for a client so i'm a bit limited | 23:39 |
| Riddell | welcome screen? | 23:39 |
| Sput | seele: sure thing :) | 23:39 |
| Riddell | important tasks right away++ | 23:39 |
| Sput | Riddell: on first start (i.e., with no networks active) quassel now displays a large area with just a logo on it... the idea is to make use of that :) | 23:40 |
| Sput | so some shortcuts for the user to edit his default identity (enter a nick at least), and connect to existing (default) networks | 23:41 |
| Sput | or something like that | 23:41 |
| mok0 | vorian: yay new version built | 23:41 |
| vorian | excellent! | 23:41 |
| Riddell | that seems sensible | 23:42 |
| seele | kuser: Depends: kdepimlibs5 (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 is to be installed | 23:45 |
| seele | hrm | 23:45 |
| nhandler | seele: Where is that? | 23:45 |
| seele | nhandler: apt-get after upgrading. i saw that kuser didnt get updated | 23:46 |
| seele | this too | 23:47 |
| seele | python-kde4: Depends: kdepimlibs5 (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 is to be installed | 23:47 |
| nhandler | Try doing an apt-get update seele | 23:48 |
| ScottK | No kde4bindings yet. | 23:48 |
| nhandler | ScottK: It should be in k-e | 23:48 |
| seele | nhandler: i did right before i upgraded. about 10 minutes ago | 23:48 |
| * JontheEchidna can't see it in -experimental | 23:49 | |
| nhandler | wtf | 23:49 |
| * nhandler goes to look | 23:49 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, beware that the copying page can't display all the packages in the ppa | 23:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: poke | 23:50 |
| JontheEchidna | it's limited to 20, so you have to manually search for those that aren't on the apge | 23:50 |
| LaserJock | seele: you got: | 23:50 |
| LaserJock | The following packages have been kept back: | 23:50 |
| LaserJock | kuser python-kde4 | 23:50 |
| LaserJock | ? | 23:50 |
| nhandler | JontheEchidna: Talk about a UI bug | 23:50 |
| nhandler | I'll get the rest | 23:50 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah :/ | 23:50 |
| LaserJock | I think that bug has been filed somewhere | 23:51 |
| LaserJock | it's been around for quite some time | 23:52 |
| mok0 | I learned something today. Another great day | 23:53 |
| mok0 | g | 23:54 |
| mok0 | g'night all | 23:54 |
| seele | LaserJock: yes | 23:55 |
| seele | and plasma crashes on startup and doesnt restart | 23:55 |
| seele | so i'm back to using neon | 23:55 |
| JontheEchidna | the plasmoids probably need copying too | 23:56 |
| JontheEchidna | (rsibreak and plasmoid-quickaccess | 23:56 |
| JontheEchidna | ) | 23:56 |
| nhandler | JontheEchidna: I'm including them | 23:57 |
| LaserJock | seele: that's on intrepid? | 23:57 |
| JontheEchidna | nhandler++ | 23:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ~karma nhandler | 23:57 |
| kubotu | karma for nhandler: 3 | 23:57 |
| seele | LaserJock: yep | 23:57 |
| nhandler | JontheEchidna: Ok, hopefully everything is there now | 23:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ^_^ | 23:57 |
| seele | ~karma seele | 23:57 |
| kubotu | seele has neutral karma | 23:57 |
| seele | lol | 23:57 |
| seele | better than 0 karma | 23:58 |
| xerosis | I can confirm the plasma crashage on intrepid | 23:58 |
| jjesse_ | ~karma jjesse | 23:58 |
| kubotu | karma for jjesse: 1 | 23:58 |
| jjesse_ | yay 1 | 23:58 |
| jjesse_ | how did i get 1 karma? | 23:58 |
| * ScottK guesses he has none. | 23:58 | |
| nhandler | ~karma | 23:58 |
| kubotu | karma for nhandler: 3 | 23:58 |
| ScottK | ~karma ScottK | 23:58 |
| kubotu | karma for ScottK: 5 | 23:58 |
| jjesse_ | ~karma scottk | 23:58 |
| kubotu | karma for scottk: 5 | 23:58 |
| ScottK | Woh. | 23:58 |
| jjesse_ | is that launchpad karma or some other karma? | 23:58 |
| nhandler | jjesse_: It is only for this channle | 23:59 |
| seele | irc bot karma | 23:59 |
| neversfelde | ~karma | 23:59 |
| kubotu | neversfelde has neutral karma | 23:59 |
| neversfelde | mhh | 23:59 |
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