dr_willisall i can suggest jennifer  is check the cups.org site for others with that printer. and the ubuntu forum sites.00:01
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jenniferwhat a load of help00:05
bdizzlehi, I was wondering if anyone knew what program to load mss addresses in?00:05
Dr_Willisa media stream?00:07
Dr_Willismost media players can handle them. Some tmes i do save the  'link' to a file. then load it in the players00:07
Dr_Willisvlc, gmplayer, gxine00:07
Dr_Willisjennifer,  printers  are a HUGE topic and not everyone can know every quirk/bug about every driver/model00:09
Dr_Willisthats what the forums and cups.org site is best for.00:09
p_quarlesDr_Willis: shame on you for trying, though, right? :D00:10
Dr_WillisHe should demand a refund! ;)00:19
TouchDownhouston ive got a problem00:20
Dr_Willisfor about a year i had a printer with NO linux support..  then it got supported.. theres not a lot  a support channel could do about   Canon not releaseing specs. :)00:20
TouchDownhow can i put my groups to appear in aMSN00:21
Dr_WillisRoger, we copy on the ground.00:21
Dr_WillisI never use aMSN sorry00:21
bdizzlehey, can I get someone to help me out with my mouse?00:24
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bdizzleits driving me nuts lately. Ever since I updated to 8.10, its been doing weird stuff on me00:24
bdizzleie, not letting me click and drag, doubling clicking when it should have single clicked, single clicked when it should have double clicked00:25
Dr_Willistry it on a live cd - be srue its not a mouse-crud-issue? :)00:25
bdizzleI dunno, it might be the mouse00:25
bdizzlethen again, its a fairly standard mouse, two buttons with scroll button in center, I don't see why it should be having problems00:26
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Dr_WillisThey do wear out. :)00:43
Dr_WillisI sort of tossed one of mine in my lunchbox to take to work.. and  it sort of got soda in it. :( now i got a stick mouse buttons00:43
Dr_Willis!info dvd-slideshow00:44
ubottudvd-slideshow (source: dvd-slideshow): tools to create dvd slideshow with menus. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 124 kB, installed size 596 kB00:44
Dr_WillisHmm.. may have to tru that out00:44
* apow is away: some exercise00:45
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kubuntu_sup im new using kubuntu, im trying to set wireless internet but i cant...can someone help me out?01:07
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Dr_WillisYou shoudl tell the channel the chipset of your wireless card for starters. :) and tell the channel what you ahve done so far to try ti get woreless going01:35
Dr_Willisall i had to do for my machine was run the  hardware-driver tool and let it install the b43 drivers. :) and it worked.01:35
Dr_Willisso thats the extent of my wireless knowldege01:35
masonCan somebody help me? My panel's been moved to the top of the screen and I'm thoroughly unsure of how to move it down to the bottom, where I'm used to seeing it.01:37
Dr_Willisunlock it with the cashew icon on the right side, and drag it down?01:37
masonIt's already unlocked01:38
masonand when I drag it, it just stays put.01:38
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masonAnybody have an idea as to how I can move the panel to the bottom of the screen from the top?01:44
david_how can i revert back to an older version of wine?01:57
bdizzlecan someone please give me a logical explaination as to why click + drag doesn't work for me in 8.10 ?01:57
bdizzleI'm thinking it might be the mouse itself, but I doubt it, since normal left click works01:58
qcjnhi, my mp3 player doesn't mount automatically ?02:00
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qcjni don't see it ? bit it does when i use live puppy ?02:00
trinity__ello everyone02:02
trinity__thought i would give jubuntu a try in a vm02:02
trinity__jubuntu i ment02:02
trinity__my eyes are getting bad02:02
trinity__20 years of stareing at a monitor is defently pad for your eyes02:03
trinity__bed  i ment02:03
devin_curious, does kubuntu ibex have a bloat feel to it?02:04
trinity__its not bad but is there a way to make the kicker panel menu less chunky?02:04
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david_i am using wine 1.1.12 how can i go back to 1.1.11?02:06
tboxmyjust updated to kde4.202:07
tboxmythings looking good!02:07
devin_trinity__ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmpv-S5JJI4 maybe that'll help02:07
devin_tboxmy beta202:07
devin_run nice?02:07
tboxmyruns good02:07
tboxmymy OOo3 worksnow02:07
devin_im thinking about leaving gnome today02:08
tboxmyprev..kept crashing OOo302:08
devin_i always preferred kde, but i wasn't happy with kde4.0 now that things are starting to come around im thinking about switching back02:09
tboxmymy KDE4.1 experience was bad02:09
tboxmybut KDE4.2 improved lots02:10
tboxmylooks like a good time to move to kde02:10
devin_what issues did you have with 4.1? i just booted a livecd of kubuntu 8.10 and it seemed fairly stable02:11
david_im using the same and everythings great for me!02:11
tboxmysmall list of things i access frequently.02:12
devin_david_ 4.1?02:12
tboxmyOOo3 crashes, didnt detect camera, bluetooth, dolphin preview of files02:13
devin_doe's compiz work ok in kde? i remember back in my kde4.0 trial it still kinda sucked02:13
david_devin_: works fine for me02:13
tboxmyits using kwin02:13
tboxmybut in kde4.2 much smoother for the cube rotations02:14
david_devin_: i installed icon on taskbar and can choose wich destop manager i want to use!02:14
devin_david_ hows that going? last time i tried that i had a conflict between kdm and gdm02:15
david_tboxmy: what are the upgrades for  4.2?02:16
tboxmyKDE4.2 can switch user with gnome desktop02:16
david_devin_: havnt had any problems at all02:16
tboxmyin kde4.1, the KDE crashed at times02:16
tboxmynow i can run 2 users, one KDE other is gnome02:17
devin_tboxmy yeah thats the problem i had, im thinking about just doing a fresh install of kubuntu02:17
devin_maybe i should just wait till the 27th for the final release of kde4.2 tho02:17
tboxmyfresh install didnt work.02:18
tboxmyi am looking forward too!02:18
tboxmythen I will fresh install too.02:18
david_tboxmy: yeah i have had some crash handler problems02:18
tboxmydavid_: in KDE4.2 havent crashed yet in last 48hrs02:18
david_tboxmy: nice did you say new release will be out on 27th?02:19
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tboxmytodo - April install new Kubuntu!02:20
tboxmyanyone can help on wireless problems on KDE?02:20
MakuseruHow can i find out what version of Kubuntu i have installed?02:21
p_quarlesMakuseru: lsb_release -a02:22
MakuseruAnd what's the most recent release?02:23
david_tboxmy: what is your issue with it?02:23
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:24
tboxmyafter upgrade to KDE4.2...nomore wireless access02:24
tboxmyremoved and reinstall iwl3945, nothing02:25
tboxmydid modinfo, but its blank!02:25
david_tboxmy: eww dont know bout 4.202:25
tboxmysuppose all kde same?02:25
devin_tboxmy does lspci detect your card?02:26
p_quarlestboxmy: that's an issue with knetworkmanager, not the wireless drivers02:26
p_quarlestboxmy: it's a known issue; I would try a different network management app02:26
tboxmylspci gave 3945ABG02:26
TouchDownhow do i unmount a device ?02:26
tboxmyis there another network mgmt app?02:27
TouchDownunmount /path02:27
tboxmyi only know knetworkmanager02:27
david_tboxmy:  go to system hardwre drivers and see if its available02:27
tboxmydavid_: u mean in adept?02:28
david_no go to sytem then go to hardware manager02:30
david_tboxmy:  sry hardware drivers02:31
tboxmyp_quaries: what network mgmt with applets?02:32
tboxmydavid_: hardware drivers is empty02:33
p_quarlestboxmy: there is nm-applet (part of Gnome), and wicd (not in the main repos, but easy to add)02:33
p_quarlestboxmy: the new network plasmoid is in the works, so this is just a temporary situation02:34
tboxmyok...will wait for that02:34
tboxmybut how to get wireless working in mean time02:34
tboxmywithout gnome?02:34
tboxmyi takeit nm-applet needs gnome?02:34
p_quarlestboxmy: try one of the applications I suggested02:34
p_quarlesit needs parts of it02:34
david_tboxmy: im asuming you are connected directly to your router so when you update your pkgs it should tell you if there are any proprietary drivers available02:35
tboxmyit says none.02:36
david_tboxmy: did you fetch lists02:36
david_tboxmy: yes what?02:38
david_tboxmy: did you edit software sources?02:39
david_tboxmy: i know it sucks it took me forever to get mine to work02:40
devin_war is hell02:41
david_devin_: blood makes the grass grow!02:42
devin_sure does02:42
david_anyone know of any good mmorpg games for linux?02:43
devin_david_ not for linux im afraid02:45
mooglinuxamarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies02:45
tboxmyhi all03:00
SuspectZerohey there. is there a way to view the output from tty1 in my current tty(7)?03:03
mooglinuxamarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies03:03
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SuspectZerohow can i view what my programs are doing in the background. like wht commands are being sent to terminal and what errors are coming up and stuff?03:11
devin_SuspectZero you can use top03:12
devin_but i don't think it'll display a error03:13
SuspectZeroyea i need to see the errors03:13
SuspectZerohmm how about tty1. when i press ctrl+alt+1 i can get to a tty where it shows my errors and commands sent. is there any way to view that in my current kde?03:16
jdnewmilSuspectZero: less ~/.xsession-errors03:20
jdnewmilthat shows you the output of stderror for processes started through the gui ... but not those started through shells03:22
SuspectZerohmm let me try taht03:27
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mooglinuxamarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies03:37
mooglinuxevery toher app can play music. but not amarok03:39
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ZmAYany expert for wifi here?04:05
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JohnFluxZmAY: ask dont ask to ask04:07
Spikome and zmay are trying to make Atheros AR242x wireless card to work but we get "ath_pci: HAL doesn't support MAC revision 0xe2" in dmesg04:08
Spikowhen loading ath_pci module build by madwifi source04:08
JohnFluxSpiko: what does google say about it?04:09
Spikomostly ubuntu forums which are unavailable atm04:09
Spikoother people say they went back to ath5k and are happy or variants of that04:10
JohnFluxand you can't use the ath5k ?04:10
Spikono, it doesnt work :)04:10
AdolaHello, I believe something is wrong SMP.  When I search "Kopete" only 3 reults pop up.04:12
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MasonDo you guys think I should go to 4.2?04:13
AdolaMason: I went 4.204:14
AdolaI like it.04:14
JohnFluxSpiko: hmm, dunno.  I have AR2413 and it works with ath_pci :/04:14
MasonAdola: Well, I want to go to 4.2, but you see... I'm sort of new to this kubuntu and general linux business. Is it unstable enough that I shouldn't switch?04:15
Mason(for example, I probably don't know how to even upgrade to 4.2, assuming that it's mildly technical :P)04:16
AdolaMason: Every release adds 6 moths to my anniversary to Linux, 8.10 was my 1 year.04:16
AdolaI'm pretty new as well.04:16
SpikoJohnFlux, well, the dmesg says " AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413, RF2133)"  when loading the modules, no 242 ...04:16
astromme_Mason: in my opinion, you need to be comfortable dropping to the command line to fix things when they don't quite work correctly. Simple stuff, but you need to know enough to not freak out when you get to a terminal.04:16
AdolaBut, it may be beta..(4.2)  But, I like it.04:16
AdolaIt's easy to upgrade.04:16
AdolaGo google04:16
Adola"KDE 4.2)04:17
mooglinux amarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies04:17
JohnFluxSpiko: yeah I was looking at that too04:17
Adola(All you do is add a line to your repo)04:17
AdolaSo, does anyone know how to fix my SMP?04:17
JohnFluxSpiko: you could try using the google cache to read the ubuntu forums04:17
astromme_mooglinux: You might be setting the devices in normal kde. neon uses its own list (it pretty much runs another kde side by side)04:17
JohnFluxAdola: symmetric multi processor?04:17
mooglinuxwhere do i get to neon's?04:17
AdolaSnyaptic Package Mannager04:17
SpikoJohnFlux, unfortuanatelly only translate link shows up for it :(04:18
MasonIs there any comprehensive beginner's guide, or I'll just have to learn through trial and error? I mean, I've learned some stuff, but not TOO much, if you get me.04:18
astromme_if you type in "amarok" to the k menu you might get them... I honestly don't remember04:18
mooglinuxthing is sound works in every other app04:18
astromme_mooglinux: Look for "Neon audio configuration" or something like that04:18
SpikoJohnFlux, ah, i made it work, reading into it now04:19
astromme_Mason: For working with kde/kubuntu betas? not that I know of. IRC is your friend here.... also google, ubuntu wiki, kde's techbase (techbase.kde.org) and userbase (userbase.kde.org)04:19
mooglinuxthere another channel for the 4.2 beta stuff?04:20
astromme_Mason: If your only computer or your main computer is the one that you're thinking of upgrading, I would not do it, especially if you haven't run Kubuntu/Ubuntu/KDE alphas/betas before04:20
astromme_mooglinux: Oh, are you on intrepid or jaunty?04:20
mooglinuxim on intrepid04:20
astromme_mooglinux: Using neon for kde as well?04:21
mooglinuxyea, its the neon nightly build of the 4.2 beta04:21
mooglinuxneon in this case i think is just the repo with the builds04:21
astromme_mooglinux: Oh, well then.... it's possible that they should be the same.... I really don't know much about neon.04:21
Masonastromme: Heh, good idea. I'm doing a community service thing where I'm going to get a custom computer made of old, used parts after putting in 24 hours of service. A computer like that should be pretty good, right? Yeah, this computer I'm on is the only one I have.04:22
nick__how do i tell which kunntu version i am running04:22
astromme_Mason: It totally depends on the parts. Anything newer than around 2002 or so should be just fine in my opinion.04:23
astromme_nick__: In Konsole/terminal: `lsb-release -a`04:23
astromme_(without quotes)04:23
Masonastromme: But is that to say that any older will not work? Or will it just be very slow, as can be expected?04:23
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astromme_Older than that will pretty much certainly not work with desktop effects (composite). However, that's just one part of the bling with kde. the desktop itself should work fine04:24
nick__i have 8.0404:24
nick__how 2 ugrpade04:24
astromme_Mason: The biggest problem would be ram I think04:24
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MasonWell, I'll just wait until I get that computer :P04:25
astromme_Mason: You really need more 256MB at a bare minimum04:25
MasonYeah, it'll have that.04:25
Masonastromme: Let me go to the website, they say the average of what I'll be getting.04:25
astromme_I would say that if you can, go with 512-1GB if possible, more if you're able04:25
astromme_nick__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu04:26
astromme_nick__: However, you will be going from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1. There are significant differences.04:27
astromme_nick__:  Make sure you read (or at least skim) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KDE3-KDE4Migration and http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Is_KDE_4.1_for_you%3F04:28
Adola#kopete is dead.  Is there a different WML protocl for Kopete?  The current one doesn't work.04:30
nick__thanks astromme_04:33
nick__that seems 2work04:33
SpikoJohnFlux, some guy on #ubuntu had a patched madwifi and it worked. thanks for help though :)04:34
* apow is away: some exercise04:35
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[LINUX]d3jakeCould somebody please point me to a tutorial or other step-by-step document that will let my Kubuntu use both video outputs on my NVIDIA card to displace things on my monitors? Preferably no the same image.04:38
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MasonI've got a bit of a problem... Does anybody know how I can move my panel from the top of the screen to the bottom? It's not that big of an issue, but my neck's starting to hurt after being used to looking down :P04:43
MasonAlso, I've tried unlocking it and then dragging it down.04:43
MasonDoesn't work :'(04:43
oscc2007which KDE?04:44
oscc2007Mason: which KDE?04:44
Masonoscc2007: 4.1.304:44
astromme_Mason: Unlock your plasma (right click desktop, unlock). click the plasma icon on the right side of the panel. A bar will pop up. Grab the "Screen Edge" button and pull it to the bottom04:47
oscc2007Mason: can u edit the panel properties?04:47
oscc2007Its called Panel Settings04:48
oscc2007Mason: astromme described it good04:49
MasonAstromme: Umm... What's the Screen Edge" button look like? The colored triangles?04:49
astromme_Mason: Hmm, no.... it might be different in 4.1 over 4.2.04:50
astromme_What if you just grab the black space?04:50
astromme_your pointer should turn into the "Grab and move" pointer rather than the normal "click" pointer04:50
Masonastromme: Thank you! The black space was it.04:51
MasonI feel so stupid -.- I dragged everything BUT the black space.04:51
astromme_Mason: =/. Apparently the devs feel similarly. They changed it to a big "Screen Edge" button rather than black space. Same for resizing.04:52
[LINUX]d3jakegraphical GRUB editorFTW!04:53
[LINUX]d3jakeuhh... sorry...04:53
[LINUX]d3jakeI'm a Linux Noob, GUIs excite me :)04:54
astromme_[LINUX]d3jake: I'm happy to have the graphical editor as well, and I'm more of a linux veteran.04:54
[LINUX]d3jakeheh, I just wish it was easy to get Kubuntu to use multiple monitors...04:55
[LINUX]d3jakeI never could get it working right04:55
[LINUX]d3jakeI guess I'll some back tomorrow and ask again, it's a bit dead in here right now...04:57
astromme_well, he left... and now I can't give my suggestion. meh04:58
* astromme_ pouts in a corner. Only for a moment though, before he turns back to the KDevelop window04:59
david_how do i open a bin file in kubuntu?05:05
p_quarlesdavid_: that name is usually aa sign that the file contains binary code, which means you don't open it05:05
MakuseruIs there anyway to remove KDE4 on Kubuntu 8.10 and install KDE3?05:06
ubottuNo, intrepid does not include KDE 3, only KDE 4. Please continue to use Hardy if KDE 3 is deisred.05:07
david_p_quarles: its aa planeshift file that i downloaded to try to play the game05:08
mister-tea-laptoI heard someonec was trying to port it but I don't know if it happened05:08
p_quarlesdavid_: then you probably need to run the file; hopefully it came with instructions?05:09
astromme_david_: Right click the file, properties, set it as executable (in permissions) then try clicking it. Otherwise, run in terminal05:09
astromme_mister-tea-lapto: It isn't supported by Kubuntu if there is a port out there. And considering that 8.04 (Kubuntu) is supported for another year there really isn't a reason.05:10
mister-tea-laptotyhat's whyI.m still on 8.0405:11
* mister-tea-lapto can' type and waych tv at the same time05:12
dwidmannIf you could invest a day you could probably just compile yourself a KDE3, if you really wanted to do that ... might have to work around some issues with it and the newish gcc though05:14
david_p_quarles: it is still asking me what program to open with?05:14
p_quarlesdavid_: did you do what astromme_ said?05:15
david_p_quarles: yes05:15
p_quarlesdavid_: try (in konsole) file /path/to/file05:16
p_quarlesthe results should tell you what type of contents it has05:16
david_p_quarles: do you know what i should type?\05:17
p_quarlesdavid_: where is the file, and what is it called?05:18
david_p_quarles: /home/david/Desktop and its calledPlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin05:19
p_quarlesdavid_: then type: file ~/Desktop/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin05:20
david_p_quarles: kk now what?05:21
p_quarlesdavid_: well, what did it say?05:22
david_p_quarles: statically linked, stripped05:22
MakuseruIs there any way to use the old KDE3 style taskbar(systembar) with KDE4?05:22
p_quarlesdavid_: okay, try running it from konsole05:23
david_p_quarles: how do i do that?05:23
p_quarlesdavid_: type: ~/Desktop/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin05:23
david_p_quarles: says  directory not writable by current user?05:25
david_p_quarles: how do i gain authority to do so?05:26
BrianHhowdy howdy05:27
p_quarlesdavid_: what did it say? (and consider that question implied from here on out)05:27
BrianHis there anything I can do to help speed up Kubuntu on my USB thumbdrive?05:28
david_p_quarles: it started to install but then says directory not writable by current user05:29
p_quarlesdavid_: then it's just trying to install in a root directory05:29
BrianHI've already tinkered with the effect settings, which helped the desktop run smoother05:29
p_quarlesdavid_: you'll need to put "sudo" before the command; however, you do this at your own risk05:30
david_p_quarles: how do i get to root05:30
david_p_quarles: ty05:30
p_quarlesbasically, you're installing something that wasn't packaged by Kubuntu, and is binary-only, so we really don't know what it is05:30
BrianHany specific services I can strip out?05:30
p_quarlesdavid_: I just said how to get root05:30
gundam_rx78nt1Hello.  I created a kubuntu 8.10 usb drive. Once I try to add changes to the drive, it fails on boot up with initramfs saying that it can't boot. Anybody has seen this?05:30
M1K3YIS there anything then Kunbutu out05:44
princeduganI can't get pcsx to work. choosing "Run CD" crashes it05:48
david_p_quarles: you still there?05:50
david_p_quarles: need help figuring out how to run the updater05:51
p_quarlessudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:52
david_p_quarles: '/opt/PlaneShift/psupdater'.05:52
p_quarlesdavid_: I have no idea; I don't use that software, and it's not KDE; ask someone who is familiar with it05:53
shadeslayerany idea if RC 1 is out???05:56
BrianHis it a good idea to set CONCURRENCY=shell in /etc/init.d/rc for parallel boot processes?05:56
BrianHI dunno how well it would effect a system running legacy hardware05:57
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TouchDownanyone can help me ? with kdesudo ?06:15
navetzcan someone help me with my digital camera06:20
navetzwhen i try to mount it i get error 50: unknown error06:20
tweakedehHello, I'm trying to get samba working, I have allowed my '/home/USER/music' folder. When I go to create a new text file I get access denied.06:29
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david_german chat?06:38
Ahadiel!de | david_06:41
ubottudavid_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.06:41
BrianHis there a KDE app like Glade?06:42
quassel251can someone help trobleshooting k3b?07:01
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RurouniJHow cna I check the version of an installed package?07:15
RurouniJSolved - dpkg -s [package]07:19
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MakuseruHi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?08:01
flashkidddows someone knows how can I configure k3b?08:11
dwidmannerm, I'm worried about the health of oneo f my drives lately, this output from smartctl --all /dev/sda doesn't reassure me any ... anybody think it's full of it, or should I start shopping for my replacement now?08:44
dwidmannSMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED! Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.08:44
p_quarlesdwidmann: well, no, that's not so good; I would take that advice08:51
dwidmannp_quarles: Yeah, that's the same way i took it08:52
user6hello... i have removed some alsa driver (sound) , but know my kubuntu start in text mode... how to start in graphical interfaces (i have done StartX... window have a gray texture with a screen console at the top left)08:54
user6... but now my kubuntu ...08:54
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE08:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kwin09:06
user6hello... i have removed some alsa driver (sound) , but now my kubuntu start in text mode... how to start in graphical interfaces (i have done StartX... window have a gray texture with a screen console at the top left)09:06
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo09:45
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FirefisheAnyone here using the ppa 3.5.10 packages?09:55
FirefisheOr is there another irc channel for this>?09:55
ActionParsnip#kde maybe09:56
FirefisheActionParsnip:  Yeah, later in the day ;)09:56
FirefisheI'd like someone to take a look at this apt-get install output and tell me what will happen if I say Yes to this output:  http://rafb.net/p/j6PNHE96.html10:00
user_Good day gentlemen. How do I install themes for Kubuntu?10:01
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:09
user_I've downloaded a theme with *.emerald extension but I can't find out how to install it (it's compiz)10:12
ActionParsnipuser_: you need to install emerald10:14
ActionParsnipuser_: emerald is not compiz10:14
ActionParsnipuser_: you will install emerald, then run: emerald --replace and then jump into emerald settings and apply the theme10:16
user_done installing emerald. I can see my theme in the list10:20
user_howeerver there is no "Apply theme" commandas I see10:20
user_howerver*, command*10:20
ActionParsnipyou dont have to apply it you just click it and it applies10:20
user_But it does not10:21
ActionParsnipyou need to run emerald --replace in a terminal10:21
ActionParsnipuser_: thats because its not running, you didnt read what I wrote10:21
user_okay I've typed what you said. However terminal says nothing, just a blank line10:23
ActionParsnipuser_: thats fine ok now go back to emerald settings and apply the theme10:24
user_it says  "Reloading" now10:25
georgijwhenever i run "sudo apt-get update" i get the following error: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>10:26
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ActionParsnipuser_: id read up on emerald10:34
user_okay done10:39
ActionParsnipall good now/10:39
user_one more question, how do I enable 3d accelration for my video card10:39
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ActionParsnipuser_: install video drivers10:40
ActionParsnipuser_: run lspci | grep -i vga10:40
ActionParsnipuser_: you can websearch from there10:40
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DeffyAfter doing 'swapoff /dev/sda1' and issuing 'hdparm -y /dev/sda' I assumed I could put my harddrive into suspension until something tried to read it again, but it just spins back up immediately.  What gives?10:56
ActionParsnipDeffy: man hdparm10:58
ActionParsnipDeffy: if the other partitions on /dev/sda are in use, the drive will need to spin10:59
ActionParsnipDeffy: are there any other partitions on that drive?10:59
DeffyI think I unmounted them all, I'll double-check.11:02
KawaiiGourry666Can anyone help me with some issues I'm having using a USB sound card in Kubntu Intrepid?11:02
cumulus007is it true there are 4.2 rc1 packages in Jaunty?11:02
naught101if I try to run plasma after a crash, I get:11:03
naught101plasma(975): Communication problem with  "plasma" , it probably crashed.11:03
naught101Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "11:03
naught101anyone know how I can start it again?11:03
ActionParsnip!jaunty | cumulus00711:03
ubottucumulus007: Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.11:03
ActionParsnipnaught101: try renaming ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc11:04
ActionParsnipnaught101: then rerunning11:04
DeffyHrm, didn't makea difference, but I found I can get the necessary results by manipulating the standby timeout instead.11:05
naught101ActionParsnip: no joy, same error11:05
naught101ActionParsnip: I should just be running "plasma", right?11:05
ActionParsnipnaught101: i'd try renaming that file and ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and rebooting11:06
naught101[36868.889682] plasma[447]: segfault at 3b ip b7e68e95 sp bff449e0 error 4 in libplasma.so.3.0.0[b7dd2000+1c0000]11:06
naught101from dmesg...11:06
ActionParsnipnaught101: but yes plasma & is the command to run11:06
naught101maybe  I can't restart it 'cause of that update...11:06
ActionParsnipnaught101: i'd websearch that error11:07
naught101ActionParsnip: sorry, it works fine when I reboot, but once it's crashed, I can't start it again11:07
ActionParsnipnaught101: hmm, id websearch the libplasma.so.3.0.0 error then dude11:08
KawaiiGourry666I'm guessing the lack of response is nope. Hmm...11:08
ActionParsnipnaught101: you could maybe reinstall plasma11:08
ActionParsnipnaught101: does it act the same for all users?11:08
naught101don'tcha love errors with (apparently) random numbers in11:08
naught101dunno, I only have one user, and now I can't log out :P11:09
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: state a full and decent decription of your issue11:09
ActionParsnipnaught101: create a new one to test11:09
ActionParsnip!adduser | naught10111:09
ubottunaught101: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo11:09
naught101I'll try rebooting first :) thanks for your help ActionParsnip11:10
mtuxHi there, What's the major release for KDE!? I mean is it 4? or 4.2? and what's next major release!? 4.3!? or 5? (for breaking BC for a Library!)11:10
ActionParsnip!info kde11:10
ubottukde (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:48ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB11:10
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde411:10
ubottukde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 |  4.2 Beta 2 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2 | Support in #kubuntu11:11
krizewmlzehi how to connecz mail-notification with thunderbird ? thx for answer11:12
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: I blew out my onboard sound card, so I bought a usb sound card as replacement. The card is detected immediately and using asoundconf list and asoundconf set-default-card, I've set the usb sound card as defualt. However the sound I'm getting out of it, is this strange horrible distortion, which is prominent during talking and usually higher pitch sounds. The current state is that videos are the problem.11:12
KawaiiGourry666If I play a video file in Kaffeine, I have the audio distortion, but if I play an mp3, it's fine. I do have sound in firefox and flash videos are fine. It's just normal videos on my hard drive. I get the same distortion from mplayer and vlc.11:12
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: run lsusb, you will see an identifier, websearch that identifier and you may get a guide or better driver11:14
ActionParsnipoh then the driver is ok11:14
ActionParsnipcheck volume levels for kaffeine arent too high11:14
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Yep, I have tried to run a search with the indentifier code but I've not seen much help. I've not seen other examples of users having the same issues. The identifier is 0d8c:010211:15
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: I did check the volume but it doesn't change. The distortion doesn't become any less prominent at quieter volume levels. And as mentioned, playing .mp3s in the same program is absolutely fine. The same distortion is heard for different video files in different players11:19
Rudd-Oin case you want to run the Ubuntu LiveCD on an USB drive: http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux/11:20
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: have you installed the medibuntu codecs?11:20
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ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: have you tried switching between pulse and alsa11:22
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Yes, I have. I installed kubuntu-restricted-extra and w32codecs. And I'm currently using ALSA, everytime I've tried pulse in the past I just end up with more problems which I'm hesitant to do11:22
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: id stick with alsa11:23
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: do you get the poor audio in livecd?11:23
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: You mean the livecd install?11:24
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: well the livecd environment11:25
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: I've not tried it11:25
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: might be worth a looksee, just to test11:26
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll give it a go.11:27
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help11:27
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knuthfAnyone know why Thunderbird will not start?11:38
knuthfI have just installed it - and that was difficult enough....11:39
juanantonioHello. I cannot play a DVD with Kaffeine, maybe because K mounted /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0. If it were mounted on /media/cdom, Shud it work?11:41
juanantonioAnyone can help?11:43
DasEijuanantonio: try vlc11:45
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:45
DasEiknuthf: why was installing hard ?11:46
juanantonioDasel, No I think it is because KDE mounted on cdrom0. How can I mount dev scd0 o media cdrom?11:46
juanantoniomount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom, am I right?11:47
DasEijuanantonio: mount tells you where it's mounted (fstab), you can manually un/ -remount it wherever you want, if that's the issue11:47
DasEijuanantonio:sudo umount /dev/scd011:49
DasEijuanantonio:sudo mount /dev/scd0  /media/cdrom           (make sure dir exists)11:49
juanantoniolook, /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev), dasel, this is what mount tell me11:49
DasEijuanantonio:and you want it where ?11:50
pingu_hello all11:50
rio__Hello I m trying to install some apps which come in tar format can anyone tell me about its commands or any newbie tutorial link11:50
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)11:50
pingu_I added the PPA Hardy source for kde4 and I have a few questions11:50
juanantonioon /media/cdrom, I saw a lot of DVDs before, I think it is because of the dir. I am trying with your suggestion11:51
DasEirio_:don't ruin your sys11:51
DasEijuanantonio:sudo mkdir /media/cdrom11:51
DasEijuanantonio:sudo umount /dev/scd011:51
pingu_I would like to know if my default desktop will change to KDE 4 beta 2 after applying the changes?11:51
DasEijuanantonio:sudo mount /dev/scd0  /media/cdrom11:51
DasEijuanantonio:and change fstab (if that's the issue)11:52
pingu_In case it does - how do I revert to KDE 3.5.10?11:52
knuthfThe installer ignored the package - had marked it as "installed" -but failed to copy files.11:53
knuthfI changed installer / packager - and forced it toi be reinstalled.11:53
rio__well its intels driver11:53
DasEi!who | knuthf11:54
ubottuknuthf: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)11:54
DasEiknuthf: changed packetmanager ??11:54
knuthfDasEi - Adept ignored errors - Synoptic has the option of reinstall11:55
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: None of the videos would play unfortunately, Codec problems I imagine. However I tried a couple of mp3's in amarok and the sound was distorted like it is for the videos.11:55
ActionParsniphmmm interesting11:55
DasEiknuthf: sudo apt-get remove --purge thunderbird && apt-get install thunderbird11:56
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: what make / model is the device11:56
DasEiknuthf: however, you got it up and now .. ?11:57
knuthfDasEi - sudo does not solve Adept, not explain why Synaptic worked -11:57
DasEiknuthf: id you do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade             do you get errors ?11:58
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Asonic External USB2.0 Sound Card. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/106540 . Under lsusb it states C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM106 Like Sound Device11:58
knuthfDasEi - have also done what you tell me - still it will not start. There was a database installed with it, and I wonder if this needs to be running.11:58
schisteheya, does anyone have, somewhere, a tutorial to extend the desktop to a second screen11:59
DasEiknuthf:the apt-cmd two lines above didn't work ?11:59
schistespent 30minutes and still have conf problems11:59
DasEischiste:cinerama might be sth for you11:59
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/12988711:59
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama11:59
schiste(it fucks up my xorg.conf, had to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:00
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: create a copy of ANY file you edit before you edit it12:00
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: e.g. sudo cp /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf_old12:00
* schiste takes a look at XineRama12:00
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: always make sure you can backtrack if you gain nothing or get into difficulties12:00
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Ok, cheers, will give this a go12:01
* DasEi is leaving for some stuff12:01
schisteHmmm and for a dual screen ?12:02
schisteshould be easy, but hey doesn't work here :(12:03
knuthfDasEi -12:03
knuthfW: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEYA70DAF536070D3A112:03
knuthfW: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs12:03
knuthfW: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/dists/intrepid/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs12:03
knuthfE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.12:03
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Well I tried just a straight replacement. I don't have /etc/asound.conf, but I do have .asoundrc which I believe is the same. No sound from anything. Tried changing some of the card statements to what I have and it's the same. When I restart alsa-utils, it just responds with a ton of errors12:07
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: good job you backed up first eh ;)12:08
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Yep, put it back, restarted alsa-utils and back to same as before12:09
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/12988712:11
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/mythtv-users@mythtv.org/msg58572.html12:13
CrypTomhi all, I tried to install kubuntu in vmware player. I've prepared the files, a Kubuntu 8.10 install ISO-File is mounted, the boot menu is shown, I can select languages, keymaps etc., but I cannot make kubuntu boot (neither live system nor installer)12:15
CrypTomwhen I hit Enter/Return, the cd light (in vmware player) flashes once and nothing else happens12:15
CrypTomthe cd doesn't even boot, when I wait for the 30s count-down to pass12:16
kaI am trying to install KDE4.2 beta2 but launchpad repos say FAILED, when I try to fect current package list after I add the thrid party repos12:16
ActionParsnipka: did you sudo apt-get update ?12:17
ActionParsnipka: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-beta-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html12:17
ActionParsnipka: remember to use kdesudo kate, not sudo gedit12:17
kaActionParsnip: Hm I just used Apedt to add the sources... Is that bad?12:20
hyper_chka: pastebin your sources.list12:20
ActionParsnipka: as long as the repos are in /etc/apt/sources.list12:21
ActionParsnipka: thats the important bit, i just use nano myself, no need for stupid gui apps to add lines to a text file12:21
hyper_chActionParsnip: but there are some nice wui apps that generate the sources.list for you ;)12:22
ActionParsniphyper_ch: i dont understand why its necessary personally bt hey if peope want a pretty clicky thing then its their deal12:23
hyper_chActionParsnip: I think you misunderstand12:24
hyper_chsources.list looks ok12:24
ActionParsniphyper_ch: possibly12:25
hyper_chActionParsnip: I was refering to http://repogen.simplylinux.ch ;) a wui to generate yuor sources.list ;)12:25
hyper_chso, back to work12:25
ActionParsnipka: sudo apt-get install kde-nightly12:26
ActionParsnipka: does that work?12:26
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: Sorry, I'm not really sure what to do with that. You're pretty busy now though so don't worry about it. Thanks for trying ;)12:26
rio__Can Anyone tell why does it sometimes shows up bad graphics when switching windows or opening new menus popups etc ?12:26
ActionParsnipKawaiiGourry666: you're gonna be websearching a bit but its ood you cn get clear mp3 playback out12:26
rio__do I really need to install graphic drivers ?12:26
kaCouldn't find kde-nightly12:27
ActionParsnipka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde-nightly12:27
kaRio do you use nvidia?12:27
rio__Intel onboard12:27
kaok, I have lots of bad graphics with my intelgraphicschip12:28
kaBoth in gnome and kde12:28
kanot so much in kde312:28
KawaiiGourry666ActionParsnip: I know, I've already done a bit of searching and I just can't work it out. I don't think it's helped that I've not tracked my changes. Originally everything was messed up. Jumped back to 8.04 which seemed to fix some things, but then suddenly stopped working. Back to 8.10, everything was fine, apart from firefox and video playback. And then I got firefox working creating the .asoundrc I have now. It's12:28
KawaiiGourry666just really confusing and I don't know what to do anymore12:28
ActionParsnipka: is it coming down now?12:29
kaActionParsnip: Nope, same thing12:31
rio__er some plz quick word what is the os I should choose at intel website Ubuntu is not listed ;\12:32
kaI'll try to install som "unsupported updates and see if that resolves my problem.12:33
kaInstalled new kernel, I have to reboot see ya...12:34
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gorkbuenas como estan todos¿?12:36
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.12:37
rio__What There is whole list of Redhat builds listed but no Ubuntu what os version driver should I choose12:38
rio__for INtel12:38
kaI am back12:40
kaStill no luck no amarok 2 for me I guess12:41
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kasudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 workes12:43
kaThanks for help and suggestions :-)12:44
Maticwhen is KDE 4.2 RC1 going to be available in http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu ?12:47
user6Hello ... istallation to 8.10 still frozen to okular-extra-backend at 97% (in white) on which appears 0% (in black). Files clearing not performed... what should I do??13:05
Maticuser6: how and what are you trying to achieve?13:09
user6Matic: i've just istalled 8.04 and the it proposed to me upgrading to 8.10 intrepid, and so i've done.... upgrading to intrepid is frozen to that point13:11
Maticuser6: if it's been waiting there for a few minutes, close the update application and try again13:12
user6Matic: i've closed application but it forced me to restart PC... now intrepid seems to work... but i'm afraid that the cleaning of files to remove was not performed and they are still inside the hard disk... There's a way to check the installation?13:20
Maticuser6: run update manager again13:22
user6Matic: new of intrepid i don't know where...13:24
Maticopen konsole and type:13:27
Maticsudo apt-get update13:27
Maticsudo apt-get upgrade13:27
Maticsudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:27
user6ahh from console13:27
Maticyeah, run a terminal application and type that in13:27
user6there tree command?13:28
Maticdid it upgrade any packages?13:30
rio__Everytime I start songbird it shows me 1st launch dialogs and same happens with couple of other apps13:33
rio__any hint to solve it ?13:33
rio__same with opera and Azureus13:34
dr_willisrun from terminal look for error messages13:34
dr_williscould be some permission issue13:34
rio__how to run like that13:37
rio__<<< newbie13:37
Maticopen the konsole13:37
rio__but what command ?13:38
Maticprobably songbird13:38
rio__oh just app name13:38
Maticin some cases it's the same as the app name, yes13:39
rio__RROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.13:40
rio__this is for opera13:40
rio__I guess all those apps run with Java13:41
rio__so thats the root13:41
dr_willisI wonder if its not a java issue13:48
dr_willistry java -version, and see what java ya are using13:48
dr_willisyou DID install java?13:49
rio__I dont know required stuff usually get downloaded13:49
rio__and I installed from Deb file13:49
dr_willisthat may or may NOT be the case13:50
dr_willisfor java :)13:50
dr_willisand using a .deb you downloade its very likely it did not get the java dep13:51
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper13:51
shadeslayer1can anyone tell me when RC 1 is gonna be released??13:51
dr_willisI just do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'13:51
peterzafter upgrading to 4.1.96 plasma keeps crashing13:51
* dr_willis notices that 'yep' is not really a answer that clarifies anything13:52
shadeslayer1so when is it going to be released13:54
rio__hmm no wonder azu wont update to
rio__it kept redownloading itself13:55
dr_willisshadeslayer1,  if you are refering to the next release of Kubuntu. I would go  check in #ubuntu+1 not here.13:56
shadeslayer1peterz:the weather widget,cartoon strip,etc is broken,disable them13:57
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.13:57
peterzshadeslayer1: how do I do that, the thing doesnt start!13:57
shadeslayer1dr_willis:no im reffering to KDE 4.2 stable release RC113:57
shadeslayer1peterz:you mean  after the logon you get a blank screen?13:58
peterzshadeslayer1: yeah, I can start stuff using krunner, but there's no plasma13:59
peterzand when I try to start it, it immediately crashes again13:59
shadeslayer1try disabling desktop effects,i dont remember  the shortcut,alt+F1114:00
peterzno joy... KCrash: Application 'plasma' crashing...14:02
peterzis there some apt magic with which I can revert to .85 ?14:03
shadeslayer1i dont think so,anybody has some other opinion???14:03
christHi, good morning14:03
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:03
christum im having some problems with my networkmanager14:04
christwhen i am updating or upgrading from the repos, suddenly it stops and i have to disconnect the networkmanager and then connect it again, and thats the only way it works14:05
christit is like it lose the connection14:06
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christcould somebody help me with this problem?14:07
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christis anybody here?14:09
Maticif it always stops at the same repository, it could be a problem with that repository14:12
Maticdoes the network connection work flawlessly when the updating stops?14:12
christis not necesarily in an specific repo, and sometimes it happens when im doing a normal download14:12
Maticis this wifi?14:13
Maticare there any other computers connected to the same network?14:14
christand is not the modem or the IPS cause there is another computer here using windows and works perfectly14:14
christthe problem is just with me14:15
christis there any program to not lose the connection?14:15
sinneswie kann mann cs instalieren ?14:15
Maticno christ, the connection should be always up14:16
christbut is annoying have to Disconnect and then connect the network manager to make it work again14:17
Maticthere is no application to keep the ethernet network conneciton up as it should be always up14:17
Matichave you always had this problem?14:17
christnot when i started use kubuntu14:17
christabout 1 year ago, but im having this problem since a few months14:18
Maticwhat network card do you have?14:19
Maticwhat brand, model14:20
christlet me see14:20
MaticIntel, Via, Broadcom, Marvell, Realtek..14:20
christi think is realtek14:20
christyeap, Realtek RTL 8201CL PHY14:21
Maticit could be a driver issue14:22
Maticbecaues it's a weird card14:22
Matictry with a different network card :)14:22
christbut i didn't install drivers, the OS recognize it by default ^^14:23
Maticyeah, that doesn't mean it will work14:23
Maticcheck with another card and if the problem persists than your OS installation is the problem14:23
Maticotherwise, it's the card/driver/kernel14:24
christso change the network card is your solution?14:24
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Maticno, it's a way to determine if you have a faulty card14:24
christwhat if another card have the same problem? what should i do?14:25
Maticboot a live CD of a different distribution and see if you have any network problems there14:25
christthen could be the distro?14:26
Maticeither your OS installation is messed up, or the combination of kernel/card is incompatible14:26
christthen i'll try another card and if it doesn't work, i'll change to debian :S14:27
christthanks for all ^^14:27
christSee ya14:27
rio__hi how do I proceed with apt-get installation it says  Configuring sun-java6-bin at top then lots of terms & conditions I wanna agree but how to do that ?14:28
rio__click ok wont work14:28
Maticpress q14:28
rio__nope its just stuck14:29
rio__any way to rollback ?14:29
MaticI'll install on my pc, wait a minute14:30
Matichave you scrolled to the bottom of the document?14:32
rio__but E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)14:33
Maticis another dpkg running somewhere?14:33
rio__I guess so14:33
rio__I dont know taskmanage alt in linux to force it close :(14:34
MaticCtrl+esc in KDE14:34
rio__thanks but this system manager beyond my knowledge14:36
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:37
rio__it was crashed14:37
rio__adept installer14:37
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robsnhi my sound isnt working but i can hear some music when i shutdown my netbook14:39
ActionParsnip1!sound | robsn14:39
ubotturobsn: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP314:39
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ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper14:40
m_tadeudoes anyone know about the packages for kde4.2 rc1?14:40
ActionParsnip1m_tadeu: in wat sense?14:43
m_tadeuActionParsnip1: when they're comming out.....so hot it burns, hehe14:45
rio__ wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-jre package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch),14:46
rio__in Adept14:46
ActionParsnip1m_tadeu: if you add repos you can get it now I think14:47
m_tadeunop....not yet...well I'm figuring it's the sabe repo from the beta214:48
m_tadeu*the same14:48
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic14:49
ActionParsnip1m_tadeu: id imagine so too14:49
rio__is there any way to fix that error ?14:52
NomexousDoes anyone know when KDE 4.2 RC 1 is going to be uploaded to the kubuntu-experimental repo?14:58
shadeslayerive been asking that for the past hour14:58
shadeslayerno answer till yet14:59
NomexousI find it annoying that every distro except Kubuntu gets daily builds of KDE14:59
shadeslayerlol daily builds14:59
shadeslayerthats not possible15:00
NomexousWhy not?15:00
shadeslayerok which distro has daily builds???15:00
NomexousLet me find the link...15:01
shadeslayerthey release them in groups,a weekly build is more likely15:01
rio__anyone help for this error ?15:01
rio__ I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-jre package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch),15:01
NomexousFrom what I read, I had the impression that it was more like hourly builds15:02
NomexousBut whatever15:02
NomexousIt's still annoying15:02
shadeslayerNomexous:i assure you that itll not be one of the major distros for eg:ubuntu,kubuntu,opensuse,etc15:03
shadeslayerhourly builds ROFL15:03
ActionParsnip1for hourly builds you'd need a box / cluster for each hour of compile15:04
shadeslayernightly builds of some programs such as amarok are available15:05
m_tadeuwell I think you have the neon project...that makes daily builds for kubuntu15:05
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m_tadeuor better....nightly builds ;)15:06
m_tadeuthat includes amarok and kde in general15:06
shadeslayeri was gonna say that15:06
shadeslayerive mentioned nightly builds earlier15:07
ActionParsnip1m_tadeu: depends on timezone15:07
m_tadeuActionParsnip1: hehe I know...just because they call it nightly builds ;)15:08
ActionParsnip1hehe, as we say here, the pubs are always open somewhere15:09
m_tadeureally? where do you live :D15:10
ActionParsnip1m_tadeu: uk15:11
StR|Sangrealin SK they are too :)15:12
m_tadeuin PT they close at 4am15:12
SiVA_how do I tell how much memory my video card has?15:15
ActionParsnip1m_tadeu: we have some 24 hour drinking here, but its offtopic ;)15:15
StR|Sangrealwe are taught that in GB pubs close at (not sure) midnight by law; isnt it so?15:16
m_tadeuActionParsnip1: that's more like it....xmas is when one wants to :D15:16
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m_tadeuahhhh I want rc115:35
* dr_willis waits for Service Pack 115:40
m_tadeudr_willis is not sick at home with nothing to do....hehehe15:40
andre-as8.10: konqueror just crashed , and i have a nice backtrace. where should i put it?15:49
dr_willisgiven how rapidly kde 4 is getting worked on these days.. its proberly out of date befor ya can even post it. :) Unless you were using the latest cvs/builds...15:50
jpedrozaGood Morning! I am having an issue with my laptop where if I boot off of battery alone, knetworkmanager shows my wireless as disabled. If I boot from AC it shows up fine.15:50
dr_willisbut in may ways. htats a good thing.15:50
andre-asnah. whatever is shipped with 8.1015:51
jpedrozaIs there a config file for acpi?15:51
dr_willisandre-as,  KDE 4.2 Beta 2 is in the works now. (see topic) so im not sure bug reports on 4.1 would be worth worring about15:52
ghostcubeis the 4.2 rc1 going to be released today :)15:52
andre-asfine. so iĺl remove. for reference. it was a type error in kjs when closing a tab: "Attempt to use a non-object as a function."15:53
dr_willisghostcube,  it was released then retracted then released 10 more times.. and we were asked to not tell you about it.....15:54
andre-asvery proffesional15:54
dr_willis'it will be released when its ready' :)15:54
ghostcubei only read the roadmap thats why i ask :)15:55
andre-ascutting is shipping15:55
dr_willisand every time someone asks..  the releae gets pushed back an  hour. :P15:55
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jpedrozaOk, I just rebooted, and now I get the wireless disabled even when booting from AC power. Any suggestions would be appreciated.16:03
jpedrozaThere also appears to be no way to re-enable the wireless from knetworkmanager. Is there a better package for managing interfaces?16:05
Maticis there a key combination on your keyboard that would enable wireless or bluetooth?16:05
Maticor a button on notebook16:06
jpedrozaMatic: There is a key, and I have played with it, the actual hardware is recognized.16:06
dr_williswhat kind of laptop is this?16:07
jpedrozadr_willis: MSI 1719 using the intel IWL3945 Driver16:08
dr_willisi would say check the forums.. but they seemt obe down. again16:12
dr_willisPooor forums16:12
simon_How to hack16:14
simon_How to become a hacker?16:15
dr_willissimon_,  start reading every manual/guide/book you can...16:16
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bukharini wanted to know, if at al possible, when amarok 2 will be released in the repos?16:16
simon_yeh but i can't find anything16:16
ghostcubejust leran how to code :D16:16
ghostcubenot for start16:17
simon_what is easy then?16:17
simon_i can try that16:18
Maticwhat do you consider as being a hacker?16:19
bukharinknuth :P16:19
simon_i joust want to blow up an computer16:19
bukharin(playing it safe :P)16:19
eagles0513875!ot | Matic16:19
ubottuMatic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:19
ghostcubesimon_, buy c4 :D16:20
bukharinwell, i had a kubuntu support question :)16:20
eagles0513875ghostcube: Offtopic16:20
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:21
eagles0513875bukharin:  just ask away anyone who can help will help you out16:21
bukharini did: when can we spect amarok 2?16:21
dr_willis'when its done'16:21
eagles0513875bukharin:  sry didnt c it probably in jaunty16:21
ghostcubebukharin, amarok2 is in ppa repos for intrepid16:21
bukharineagles0513875: will it be packaged on its own, or are all those being held until kde 4.2?16:21
ubottuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.16:21
eagles0513875bukharin:  4.2 is due out this month so probably 4.2 and amarok 2 will be inclued in jaunty as out of box features16:22
bukharineagles0513875: so i would have to add the ppa to install in intrepid?16:22
eagles0513875yes u would16:22
eagles0513875and the latest version for amarok is
ghostcubebukharin, on www.kubuntu.org is an howto16:23
eagles0513875thats in the ppa16:23
bukharinwill that affect the upgrade path for later?16:23
eagles0513875what do u mean16:23
bukharinwell, with kde (i know its a lot different) i added the ppa for 4.1 in hardy16:24
bukharinand then when updating to intrepid, i was sugested to uninstall kde4, and let adept move kde3 to kde 416:24
eagles0513875bukharin: you might have to do the same once u upgrade is just uninstall amarok and then reinstall16:25
bukharineagles0513875: ok, thankyou!16:26
eagles0513875good luck bukharin16:27
bukharineagles0513875, i'm kinda confused by the install instructions...16:31
bukharineagles0513875 (i know that i can just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources, but i want to use "the kubuntu way"16:31
eagles0513875with apt-get16:32
bukharinyes, yes, but before that...16:32
bukharini have to add the pa, yes?16:32
bukharinbut here...16:32
LazersKDoes the taskpanel TENd to disappear?16:32
bukharinthe instructions say to add "recommended Updates (backports)"16:32
zac_windows 7 free beta is out !!!!!!!!!16:32
eagles0513875i just added the ppa to the sources.lst then run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install amarok-kde416:32
bukharinbut i can find that option in the "edit sourecs" dialog within adept.16:32
eagles0513875and that will get u amarok 216:32
peterzLazersK: plasma crashes instantly here with 4.1.9616:32
LazersKI clicked 'remove desktop effects' and then re-enabled them, and now the system trays vanished16:33
eagles0513875bukharin:  are u on intrepid16:33
Pici!ot | zac_16:33
ubottuzac_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:33
eagles0513875zac_:  thats offtopic16:33
LazersKPlasma still works, as in widgets16:33
bukharineagles0513875 yes16:33
zac_i know but its just fyi16:33
LazersKAny way to re-enable the panel? i'm in the middle of an update.16:33
* LazersK prepares for KDE 4.216:33
peterzLazersK: did you per-chance upgrade the plasma libs while running plasma? :-)16:34
LazersKGOD DAMN IT.16:34
* LazersK is fairly new to linux, being a lnog time windows user.16:34
BluesKajzac_ , have you installed windows 7 beta ?16:35
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LazersKWell, will the update still 'work' ?16:37
BluesKajwindows 7 reassigns itself as the boot partition and hides grub , even after grub is restored it still reflags itself to the boot partition16:37
|zac|-sk|8|er-ya mayn16:37
|zac|-sk|8|er-its all good16:37
bukharinit has always been a pain in the ass to install windows over grub...16:37
|zac|-sk|8|er-im going to part my drive and have kubuntu and windows 7 on it16:38
LazersKWindows 7: Sexy, WORKING vista.16:38
LazersKI didn't really like Vista.16:38
|zac|-sk|8|er-i love windows, but i also loooooove kubuntu16:39
LazersKI like XP.16:39
LazersKIt's on my C: drive,16:39
|zac|-sk|8|er-i like the compatiblilty of windows16:40
LazersKKubuntu is on my E: drive.16:40
stdinthanks for the offtopic talk, now it's over16:40
LazersKThis machine has 768 meg of RAM, yet Kubuntu runs kinda slow.16:40
LazersKIt's not a lot, but i thoguht only 256 was really needed?16:41
tezthen xp must be running even slower16:41
|zac|-sk|8|er-i have 4 GB of ram16:41
LazersKXP is fairly fast.16:41
mini-mankubuntu == kde, kde compositing == slow16:41
|zac|-sk|8|er-i can only use 3.2 v.v16:42
LazersKOh yeah.16:42
mini-manI have 1G of ram and with compositing on, KDE is slow as a snail.16:42
mini-man-- sorry to butt in like this :)16:42
mini-manit does, but I have to turn it off often :(16:42
* stdin has 1GB ram with compositing (and only an intel GPU), KDE runs pretty fast16:42
mini-manjust try having a few openoffice apps open, you'll get all kinds of crazy slowness going on16:42
LazersKI wanted Compiz as well.16:42
tezis there a germen chan?16:43
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|zac|-sk|8|er-hardly anything is compatible with kubuntu, and it doesnt have drivers for any of my hardware....16:43
LazersKWell, framerates in the 60s/70s now.16:43
LazersKBut am mising the system tray.16:43
tezthx jussi ;)16:43
jpedrozaI discovered the solution. There are 4 states for that wireless button: all off, wireless on, bluetooth on, all on.16:43
mini-manLazersK: if it gets too slow, try KDE 3.5.x :P16:43
jpedrozaI had to boot with them all on16:43
mini-manit's blazing fast, with all effects on.16:43
|zac|-sk|8|er-no webcam, not using my graphics card to its potential, my video card is crappier16:43
LazersKBut this looks prettifier.16:43
LazersKI have the Nvidia 177 drivers.16:44
LazersKi need the new noes, amirite?16:44
mini-mansure, but your cost/benifit ratio is sucking :P16:44
mini-man180.11 here16:44
mini-manstill glitches, but not as bad as 170.x16:44
LazersKThe update looks long and painful, from what i've read.16:45
mini-manI think I installed it from backports16:45
mini-manwas relatively painless16:45
mini-manexcept it %(!#ed up my xorg.conf or something, dunno how that happened16:45
mini-manjust had to regenerate it16:45
LazersKYou'll have to tell me how...16:45
mini-manbecause on startup it was loading some random nonexistent module x_X16:45
mini-manyou on intrepid?16:46
LazersKJust wait till this updates done, though.16:46
vitalis there any repository for kde-trunk (daily/nightly build)? I've tried to google for it, no success. I'm on intrepid 64-bit16:46
stdin!neon | vital16:47
ubottuvital: The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon16:47
vitalstdin: thanks :)16:47
LazersKWhat is this nightly thing?16:47
mini-manKDE 4.2 nightly?16:47
stdinno, trunk16:47
LazersKMm. What is it?16:47
mini-manstdin: you'd have to compile it yourself16:48
mini-manLazersK: KDE. 4.2.16:48
mini-mansvn version16:48
mini-manas in, bleeding edge, alpha16:48
stdinmini-man: no, that's the point of the repository16:48
vitallasersk, 4.2.60 aka 4.3 to be16:48
dlI'm having a network problem. A laptop running kubuntu is set up with a static IP address. I can ssh into it through my LAN, and once inside I can ping other computers in the LAN, but I cannot access the internet from it.16:48
mini-manLazersK: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-18016:49
mini-manshould work16:49
dlSounds like a DNS problem to me, but I'm not that familiar with how kubuntu handles this.16:49
LazersKAh, ok.16:49
jpedrozamini-man: Is that the most current nvidia driver?16:49
mini-mani cant remember if i installed it before upgrading to ibex16:49
LazersKAfter updates, i'll need to reboot?16:49
mini-manjpedroza: oh, no, but it's the one I use that I think resolved the issue with kde's tray16:50
mini-mannever tried the newer one, so don't want to get lazer into a mess if it borks out :P16:50
jpedrozamini-man: I am using 177.82 what version is yours16:50
dlAny ideas why I can access the LAN, but not go past the router?16:50
jpedrozamini-man: I might have to try that one.16:50
mini-manjpedroza: :)16:50
mini-manthe tray doesn't look as horrid as it used to16:51
mini-manstill artifacts if compositing is on16:51
jpedrozadl: Are you able to access sites by ip?16:51
jpedrozadl: Did you set up name servers in /etc/resolv.conf?16:52
LazersKAnd you can ping outbound?16:52
dljpedroza: I cannot ping sites by IP, and I haven't touched resolv.conf -- is there a howto for setting that up?16:53
user_Good evening gentlemen. I have installed Kubuntu on few computers in my office in order to save money. My question is: is it legal to use Microsoft fonts on my systems?16:53
jpedrozadl: don't always trust ping, it can deceive you outside the firewall because some turn off ping responses to prevent snmp flooding attacks.16:54
LazersKHuh, i have an HTTP error as well.16:54
jpedrozauser_: That would be a question for your legal department...16:54
LazersKlooks like some needed service got killed?16:54
user_jpedroza: They have no ideaaa about Open Source Software at akk16:55
user_at all*16:55
LazersKCannot Initiate the http Protocol16:55
LazersKTechnical Reason: Unable to Launch Process16:55
dljpedroza: I first noticed the problem when I suddenly wasn't able to connect to my SVN server, so it's not just ping :-/16:56
Maticuser_: I think the MS fonts included in Kubuntu are OK to use16:56
dlAnd I can usually ping google with no problems16:56
jpedrozauser_: I use some Microsoft true type fonts on my Kubuntu system, Some fonts are restricted by the EULA to machines running Windows only. Others, such as true types from Linotype, or downloaded from free font sites are not as restrictive. IANAL YMMV16:56
jpedrozadl: firewall?16:57
bukharinuser: if you posses a windows license, then i would say that you can use the fonts included in the system16:58
jpedrozamini-man: In what repo is the nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 found?16:58
mini-manjpedroza: intrepid backports I think16:58
bukharinuser, unless the eula specifically states that those fonts can only be used over an MS produced OS16:58
mini-mancan't remember to be honest, it's been a while since I upgraded16:58
dljpedroza: I didn't set one up, that shouldn't be an issue unless Kubuntu puts one in by default. What's strange is that it was working fine yesterday.16:58
LazersKupdate finished.16:58
bukharini need help enabling backports in intrepid16:59
bukharini can't find any reference to "backports" in adept16:59
bukharinhow can i tell if a.- i already hve them enabled, or b.- where to point and click to enable themn ? :S17:00
dlDoes kubuntu set up a firewall by default (and randomly enable it 2 weeks after the install, blocking traffic to/from google? :P)?17:01
bukharindl: never heard of that17:01
jpedrozadl: I haven't seen that either, it was just a guess.17:02
bukharinadept's Recommended Updates = backports?17:02
stdinbukharin: from Adept Package Manager. Sources -> Edit Software Sources -> Updates, and check "Unsupported updates"17:02
bukharinstdin: Unsupported updates = backports?17:02
bukharinstdin then the instructions here are wrong... http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.017:03
stdinI'll poke someone about that17:03
bukharinok, just for confirmation...17:04
bukharinif i enable unsupported...17:04
bukharinand add that ppa17:04
bukharini will get amarok 2 and the other goodies being cooked for jaunty in my intrepid?17:04
jpedrozamini-man: I enabled backports and still don't have nvidia-graphics-drivers-18017:04
dldhcpcd isn't installed by default? Anyone know what dhcp client kubuntu uses?17:04
jpedrozadl you can run it from cli by typing dhclient17:05
bukharindkl: i think is bundled with bind and the dns server17:05
stdinbukharin: you'll get amarok217:05
jpedrozadl: Sorry, wrong package17:05
jpedrozadl: it is part of bind I think17:05
bukharinstdin: alongside, or over my current amarok 1.4?17:05
stdinbukharin: it'll replace the current version17:05
Picijpedroza: dhcp3-client17:05
Alan_LockwoodCan someone help me to install "educational" packages from my repos?17:05
bukharinstdin: thanks a bunch, will try just that.17:05
stdindl: "dhclient"17:06
Alan_LockwoodEduKubuntu lol17:06
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eagles0513875Alan_Lockwood: edubuntu17:07
eagles0513875!info edubuntu17:07
ubottuPackage edubuntu does not exist in intrepid17:07
bukharinstdin: i'm still not getting amarok 217:07
ubottuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org17:07
stdin!info edubuntu-desktop-kde17:07
ubottuedubuntu-desktop-kde (source: edubuntu-meta): edubuntu desktop system with KDE desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1.62 (intrepid), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB17:07
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stdinbukharin: you need to install the "amarok-kde4" package17:08
bukharinstdin: and after enabling unsuported and adding the kubuntu-members ppa, i only get a few updates to some minor libs and kaffeine...17:08
Alan_LockwoodI have Kubuntu. I love it. I need to install some educational packages for kids17:08
bukharinoh, thanks17:08
bukharinstdin: let me try that :)17:08
Alan_LockwoodWhat pks can i install? From repos, please =)17:08
jpedrozaAlan_Lockwood: Check out edubuntu17:08
jpedrozaAlan_Lockwood: It is a downloadable addon to ubuntu/kubuntu17:09
falckonhey, does anyone here have an acer aspire one? i can't get the sound to work so that the speakers turn off when the headphones are plugged in, or at all17:09
dlhrrm, can someone confirm that my /etc/network/interfaces is set up correctly for a static IP of on eth0? http://pastebin.com/m217184ef17:09
falckonusing the acer-aspire model works for that but the sound is incredibly silent no matter what17:09
Alan_LockwoodOnce again, i will keep using Kubuntu, just cuz gnome sucks (joke) but i still can install the edubuntu pakages, cant i?17:09
mini-manjpedroza: oh sorry, it's in the jaunty repos17:09
LazersKWell, I'm on KDE 4.217:09
mini-manjpedroza: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main universe17:09
mini-manLazersK: welcome to the club \o/17:10
LazersKframerate is only in the 40s17:10
mini-mansame for me before i updated to the newer nvidia driver17:10
bukharinstdin: ok, im confused now17:10
bukharinstdin: adept does not find any package amarok-kde417:10
bukharinstdin: but apt-cache search lists it17:11
eagles0513875bukharin: forget adept now17:11
eagles0513875bukharin: sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 to install17:11
bukharinstdin ??? care to develop on that?17:11
ubuntuhi, i have a problem to install kubuntu in hard disk, the ubiquity not see my hard disk, but with sudo fdisk -l, i see my hard disk, so i think the problem is in  ubiquity allright?17:11
bukharinstdin i thought adpet was just a front end to apt17:11
jpedrozamini-man: Couldn't find package nvidia-graphics-drivers-18017:11
stdinbukharin: under sources, click the "Fetch current package list", that should kick adept into noticing it17:12
ubuntuthe version of kubuntu that i try to install is 8.1017:12
bukharinstdin: i did, and it didn't...17:12
bukharinstdin: bug?17:12
mini-manjpedroza: oops, it's nvidia-glx-18017:12
mini-mansorry, my memory is in the dumps today :<17:12
stdinbukharin: I see it when I search for "amarok-kde4"17:13
LazersKIt locked up. D:17:13
jpedrozamini-man: No worries. It looks like it is in the intrepid-updates restricted file17:13
mini-mancool :)17:13
bukharinstdin: well, mine didn't see it... don't know why. i'm instaling through apt-get now, so...17:13
LazersKAnd, after restarting Xwin, the taskpanel and top panel are not reaching the full width of the screen17:13
jpedrozamini-man: Installing now17:14
ubuntuhey, someone can help-me ?17:14
mini-manjpedroza: :D17:14
jpedrozaubuntu: What can we do for you?17:14
LazersKOkay, now, new Nvidia drivers?17:16
skandehello all17:16
ubuntujpedroza: i'm trying to install kubuntu, but ubiquity not recognize my hard disk, but the fdisk -l show all my partition in my hard disk17:16
skandei need help17:16
skandeive done17:16
LazersKWhat's that command, again?17:16
shadeslayerskande:were all listening17:16
skandesudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o .logmdp.txt17:17
mini-manLazersK: you have to enable intrepid-updates restricted17:17
skandewith lkl17:17
mini-manLazersK: in synaptic17:17
LazersKhow, miniman?17:17
skandea keyloger17:17
skandeand i dont find17:17
mini-manLazersK: open synaptic, somewhere in there you can edit sources17:17
mini-manyou're on KDE17:17
LazersKI don't have Synaptic.17:17
mini-mani forgot, sry17:17
LazersKgot Adept?17:17
mini-manyes yes I use kde too, had a blonde moment17:17
mini-manthought I was in #ubuntu17:18
mini-manopen adept, and una momenta17:18
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Dawson02i'm italian17:18
skandeive done sudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o .logmdp.txt with a keyloger named lkl and i dont find the logfile logmdp.txt17:18
stdin!it | Dawson0217:18
ubottuDawson02: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)17:19
skandeit said17:19
Dawson02how to attack wireless?17:19
stdinskande: you saved to .logmdp.txt not logmdp.txt17:19
skandeStarted to log port 0x60. Keymap is /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km. The logfile is .logmdp.txt.17:19
LazersKAdepts up..17:19
mini-manLazersK: Sources17:19
mini-manedit sources17:19
skandeyes it a17:19
jpedrozamini-man: Nice driver, me likey!17:19
stdinskande: the . will make it hidden in most file browsers unless you choose to see them17:19
mini-manjpedroza: :)17:19
ubuntuhey you guys, someone can help me with the ubiquity problem?17:20
skandespecial files17:20
mini-manthere should be intrepid-updates in there17:20
mini-mansec lemme fire up adept17:20
LazersKproposed upates/17:20
LazersKunsupported updates17:20
mini-manunsupported should be it methinks17:20
stdinupdates is "Recommended updates"17:20
LazersKdownloading lists17:20
mini-manI didn't do it in adept when I installed it, so17:20
skandeits a hidden file17:21
mini-manoh ok17:21
skandethe ive try17:21
mini-maneither go in browse and search for nvidia-glx-18017:21
mini-manor close adept17:21
mini-manand do17:21
skandesudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o log.txt17:21
mini-mansudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-18017:21
skandei dont find17:21
jpedrozaubuntu: I am not familliar with ubiquity. Are you referring to the software from Mozilla?17:22
LazersKIt's doing it.17:22
ubuntujpedroza: ubiquity is the program to install ubuntu in the hard disk17:22
skandethe logfile is untraceable17:22
mini-manLazersK: :D17:23
jpedrozaubuntu: What problems are you having?17:23
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ubuntujpedroza: my hard disk isn't recognized in ubiquity partition step, but the fdisk -l show my hard disk correctly17:23
LazersKThen Imma gonna get ..firefox maybe? i dunno.17:24
jpedrozaubuntu: What partitioning scheme have you chosen?17:24
LazersKHow do I say, create shortcuts?17:24
ubuntuexists another way to install the kubuntu on hard disk, without use ubiquity?17:24
skandeim on kubuntu17:25
mini-manLazersK: ?17:25
ubuntujpedroza: none, because in the partition step, i see nothing17:25
jpedrozaubuntu: I am not sure if the text install is still considered ubiquity. Have you tried the text install?17:26
ubuntujpedroza: no, how can i try the tezt install?17:26
jpedrozaubuntu: It should be one of the options presented when you first boot of the cd,17:27
ubuntuok, lets see, i'll be back thank you17:27
jpedrozaubuntu: But I am not sure if the disk would be seen there either. Is the disk partitioned and formatted currently?17:27
genchello my friends17:28
skandeplease help17:28
gencok wats is17:28
jpedrozaskande: What seems to be the trouble?17:28
jpedrozaskande: I didn't see your initial post.17:29
skandeok 1min17:30
jpedrozagenc: ?17:30
skandejpedroza : i use a keylog named lkl , ive done sudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o log.txt17:30
skandeand i dont find17:30
skandethat's why i ask u17:31
genciam french is not englich17:31
stdin!fr | genc17:31
ubottugenc: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr17:31
knubbehello, i just upgraded 8.04 > 8.10. two things: 1) my screen flickers every 10 seconds or so. is this a known bug? 2) the scrolling on the touchpad stopped working, is there a fix? im using a dell inspiron 600017:31
|zac|-sk|8|er-how do you make the desktop on kubuntu, like the whole actualy desktop, instead of just the box ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/17:31
jpedrozaskande: have you tried giving a full path for the outfile: "/home/skande/log.txt?17:32
mini-man|zac|-sk|8|er-: right-click, appearance17:32
skandeits written Started to log port 0x60. Keymap is /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km. The logfile is log.txt17:32
mini-manappearance settings, rather17:32
urbinekcan somebod help me ? i'hve got fresh installed kubuntu 8.04 and when i'm plaing something in mplayer i've got no picture and error about no xv support17:32
gencsuper merci beaucouyp lordi tchao hello frenchies17:32
mini-man|zac|-sk|8|er-: change type to Folder View17:32
mini-manfrom desktop17:32
|zac|-sk|8|er-that did nothing17:33
mini-manfor cereal.17:33
mini-mando you have anything in ~/Desktop?17:33
mini-manthen that's why ;)17:33
mini-manmake some icons17:34
mini-manright-click, create new, link to application17:34
jpedrozaskande: And it still doesn't show up? Seems to me that lkl isn't getting to the point where it creates the log.txt file, or it doesn't have write perms for the file. Have you tried creating the log.txt file with touch log.txt and setting 777 perms on it?17:34
|zac|-sk|8|er-i still dont want the box17:34
mini-manthen remove it17:34
mini-manhover over it, click the little x that pops up17:34
mini-manand it will be catapulted to kingdom come17:34
mini-manunless you have your widgets locked, at which point you'll want to right-click -> unlock widgets17:34
|zac|-sk|8|er-thanks man !!!17:35
mini-mannp :P17:35
skandeno i will try17:35
skandethanks 2 min17:35
jpedrozaskande: cool17:35
|zac|-sk|8|er-hey is Halo 2 for Windows Vista Compatible with Kubuntu 4.2 nightly ?17:35
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help17:36
|zac|-sk|8|er-i looked there17:36
stdinthen you'll know the answer17:36
urbinekso... can anyone help me ?17:37
mini-man|zac|-sk|8|er-: check the compatibility listing in crossover, I'm pretty sure anything that works with that works with wine17:37
skandeok thats done17:37
jpedrozaskande: ok17:37
derdudejemand da der auch kde 4.2 lauen hat17:38
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skandejpedroza: it doesnt work17:39
jpedrozaskande: Nothing gets written into the file then?17:39
skandei done : touch log.txt17:39
skandei change permission too17:39
jpedrozaskande: Touch just creates the file17:40
skande(write & read)17:40
jpedrozaskande: Then did you run lkl?17:40
skandeyes and after running it i kill the process17:40
skandeit write completed17:40
skandeive senn log.txt17:41
skandeand ther nothing..NOTHING17:41
jpedrozaskande: After it runs can you cat log.txt and get output?17:41
jpedrozaskande: nevermind, you already answered17:41
skandei dont know what to do17:42
skandeim desesperate17:42
skandemaybe can i modify the source code and compile it another time17:44
madmousehi all17:45
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Incognito85Hi Archanger01317:57
Incognito85How has the day been?17:57
madmousehelp with nvidia driver please17:57
Archangel013Hi, kinda slow so far, but I have a quick question about upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid...17:58
Archangel013I'm running Hardy at the moment, and I wanted to upgrade to KDE4, and I installed the KDE4 packages through Adept instead of updating the release version. I was wondering if I were to perform a network update from Hardy to Intrepid, would that erase all my old KDE3 and previously installed KDE4 data and replace it with the clean install, or would I have to do that manually?18:00
mitchellplease can someone help me to enable direct rendering for all users? in this moment it only works for root user18:03
LazersKEr, now i have Nvidia drivers version 177, 173, and 96?18:04
ghostcubethere should be an 180 too18:05
LazersKThere isn't.18:05
ghostcubewhere are you looking at18:05
LazersKHardware drivers18:05
ghostcubesudo apt-cache search nvidia-glx18:06
Archangel013Anyone have any answer as to whether a network version upgrade replaces old KDE data with the new install, or does it leave it behind?18:06
|zac|-sk|8|er-CAN someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs18:06
LazersKIt lists several.18:07
ghostcubenvidia-glx-180 ?18:07
LazersKWhy doesn't it show?18:07
ghostcubethis is the one you want if you want the repo version of the 180 series18:07
ghostcubeLazersK, no idea18:07
LazersKWhats the command to 'activate it' ?18:08
dustrialhi, how to save the current session in KDE4???  is this proposal trusted?: http://raetsel.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/kde4-save-current-session-dbus-to-the-rescue/18:08
SteBodustrial: It's in the kickoff menu under "Leave"18:09
|zac|-sk|8|er-Can someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs18:09
LazersKSo, i'll use the 177 for now then.18:09
webaskai wish kubuntu would have gparted(or similar program) installed by default18:09
dustrialSetBo: i dont want to lock the session18:10
LazersKsuspend to RAm?18:11
LazersKSuspend to disk?18:11
LazersKTry them.18:11
dustrialsave current session?18:11
ghostcubeLazersK, hmm if you install the 180 package it should update the 177 ones18:11
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NomexousSettings > Advanced > Session manager?18:11
ghostcube!it | anom01y18:12
ubottuanom01y: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:12
dustrialokay that is after starting kdm  there are some programs loaded... most likely the programs from your last session,... or better 'last saved session'18:12
LazersKGod damn Nvidia!18:12
LazersKWill Compiz work with 177?18:12
dustrialmy kde starts bullshit programs and does not start the relevant ones... so i need the 'save current session' button (kde3 like)18:13
Archangel013Anyone at all? Will a network upgrade replace old KDE3 and KDE4 data with the new KDE4 from the upgrade?18:14
ghostcubeLazersK, <yeah as good an bad as with 18018:14
|zac|-sk|8|er-Can someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs18:14
SteBodustrial: Perhaps you have to activate manually saved sessions in the system settings first to get this menu entry.18:14
LazersKREstarting KDE, brb18:16
dustrialNomexous: you got sessionmanager in kde4?18:16
SteBodustrial: you can activate it in the system settings18:17
|zac|-sk|8|er-Can someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs18:17
stdin!repeat > |zac|-sk|8|er-18:17
ubottu|zac|-sk|8|er-, please see my private message18:17
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dustrialSetBo: you mean autostart?18:21
SteBodustrial: no...18:21
SteBodustrial: I only have a German KDE here18:21
dustriali have now understood what you mean18:21
SteBodustrial: So I cannot tell you, how it is labeled in your English KDE :-(18:22
dustrialjoa kein problem, hast mir ja schon geholfen18:22
SteBodustrial: hehe18:22
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SteBodustrial: unter Erweitert -> Sitzungsverwaltung18:23
dustrialSteBo: found it,... a hint for KDE4 is "alltray" a program to send programs to system-tray,...18:25
* relizer me18:28
Archangel013Anyone know if a network upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid will replace old KDE3 and KDE4 data with the new KDE4 data from the install, or will they have to be removed manually?18:29
dreisingerany idea when kde 4.2 rc1 will get packages?18:29
jussi01dreisinger: later today Im told...18:29
dreisingerjussi01: word, danke!18:30
ThreeDMacDaddywhat do i need to compile my video card drivers GCC & what else?18:36
ThreeDMacDaddyis anyone here?18:37
ThreeDMacDaddycan somebody please answer?18:39
ThreeDMacDaddywhat packages do i need to compile software in linux?18:39
ThreeDMacDaddyjust my Nvidia Drivers really18:39
ThreeDMacDaddyis it G++ & something else ( name ) ?18:40
ThreeDMacDaddyIS ANYONE HERE!?18:40
ThreeDMacDaddyplease help me admin18:41
administratorlol im newbie in kubuntu18:41
administratorwhats this?18:41
ThreeDMacDaddy310 people and all of them are afk...18:41
administratorcan you help me?18:42
ThreeDMacDaddynah im not very good with linux either18:42
administratorwhere can  i learn smt about kubuntu..using it etc18:42
ThreeDMacDaddyi was hoping somebody in this room could help but ;/18:42
ThreeDMacDaddyi guess they just like to come in here and go afk for fun idk ;/18:42
jpedrozaadministrator: Can I be of assistance?18:54
jpedrozaOne second too late18:55
BreetaiI feel stupid asking, but how to I fiddle with the kwin4 dekstop effects. I am not sure how to get to the settings. 8.1018:58
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.  Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/21209818:58
zac_how do i change my clock to 12 hour instead of 12 ?18:59
zac_12 instead of 24*18:59
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)19:01
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EpisExcuse me, a basic question, but how can I connect to IRCnet?19:07
Tm_Thi Rikkiviisas19:08
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knubbewhere do i change my scrolling settings for my touch-pad?19:12
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:15
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:15
throughputI'm triyng to download ubuntu19:21
throughputthe amd64 version is ok for emt64 intel's processors?19:22
jussi01throughput: yes19:22
jussi01np :)19:22
lakis1982how do i check for updates in kubuntu intrepid..why are they not updated automatically like in previous version  8.04 ???19:24
amejussiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.............. is the third times that i format this kubuntu19:25
williamhow do I tell if I am running the 64 bit version of ubuntu19:25
jpedrozalakis1982: Look in the sources panel of adept19:25
jpedrozawilliam:  what is the output of uname -a19:26
jpedrozalakis1982: Then click Edit Software Sources then there is an updates tab19:26
ameafter installation it required to install driver for nvidia card restricted... reboot... screen becomes very big, so big that i can't disable driver previously installed... nvidia FX 520019:26
jpedrozaame: Does the screen get big after login, or on the boot and login screens as well?19:28
amethis is the trind times i said.. in the previous installation then i go in adept--- and choose to remove nvidia-glx-new installing another...19:28
ameat boot is still big19:28
jpedrozaame: if you hit <ctrl><alt><f1> and login to the console, you can then run sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new, which should remove the driver19:29
jpedrozahit that key combination at the kdm login window19:29
lakis1982there is no edit software sources19:30
jpedrozalakis1982: What version of kubuntu, pls?19:30
ame... when i install a new driver in the previous attempt then i can't active XOrg and kubuntu start in text stile19:30
jpedrozaame: Sorry, that question was for lakis198219:31
williamLinux william-laptop 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux19:32
jpedrozawilliam: That is the 32 bit19:33
williamoh thanks19:33
jpedrozai686 GNU/Linux19:33
jpedrozaif it was 64 bit it would say x86_64 or something to that effect19:33
jpedrozaame: I thought I lost you19:34
jpedrozaame: Once you install the updated driver, run nvidia-xconfig to rebuild you xorg.conf file from the console. After you run that it should work for you to boot into GUI19:35
jpedrozaame: The command would be sudo nvidia-xconfig from the command line19:35
jpedrozaame: After that , follow the prompts19:35
amejpedroza: but what i had to install???19:36
throughputone moment... on the mirror there is the following text: "If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead."19:36
jpedrozaame: If you still have an nvidia driver installed, just press <ctrl><alt><F1>, login to the console and type that command.19:37
jpedrozathroughput: that is correct19:37
jpedrozathroughput: But I think the 64 bit image will still work on intel-6419:38
jpedrozathroughput: But I have never tried it19:38
lakis1982kubuntu intrepid19:39
Dbeavercan some one help me out19:40
jpedrozalakis1982: So you launch Adept, click on sources, and in the middle of the window there is no edit software sources button?19:42
jpedrozaDbeaver: What do you need?19:42
phoenixzAre there already KDE4 versions of konversation and quanta?19:42
lakis1982its a button saying sources19:42
lakis1982but there is not edit   button19:42
jpedrozaphoenixz: There is no KDE4 vfersion of Quanta, yet.19:43
energYI want my kubuntu too loose the "k"... How?19:43
jpedrozalakis, click sources, then it will change19:43
jpedrozaenergY: Download ubuntu19:43
jpedrozaphoenixz: But the KDE3 versions will work19:43
energYjdnewmil: I've spent 12 houres installing and updating this thing... Do I really have to start over?19:44
phoenixzjpedroza: I know it does, Im using it :) I was just wondering if there is anything new in the pipeline for the editor19:44
jpedrozaenergY: You can also install gnome or another WM and change your login session type to gnome19:44
phoenixzenergY: Just install gnome-desktop package..19:44
phoenixzenergY: then at login you can choose either KDE or GNOME, as you wish19:44
energYNot the ubuntu-desktop package?19:45
mluserCouldnt he also just install ubuntu-desktop?19:45
jpedrozaphoenixz: I know they are working on it, but it is more than a simple port, they are completely changing the underlying editor from kate to kdevelop19:45
user6jpedroza: (i'm ame) after remove nvidia-glx-new ... what is new command?19:45
user6jpedroza: (i'm ame) after remove nvidia-glx-new ... what is next command?19:45
phoenixzjpedroza: basically going from scratch that meanns?19:45
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jpedrozauser6: You will need to install the newer driver package, or leave the old on, either way, then run sudo nvidia-xconfig19:47
user6thank buddy19:47
jpedrozaphoenixz: The main developer is usually on #quanta on this server as well19:47
jpedrozauser6: No problem19:47
phoenixzjpedroza: thanks!19:47
jpedrozaphoenixz: np19:48
user6jpedroza: sudo nvidia-xconfig (command not found)19:48
jpedrozauser6: you will need to re-install the nvidia driver first19:49
user6so sudo install apt-get nvidia-glx19:50
jpedrozauser6: yes19:50
jpedrozauser6: That will install nvidia-xconfig, i think19:50
phoenixzjpedroza: Just in case you might know.. How can I configure quanta to have tabs of only 4 spaces wide?19:53
jpedrozaphoenixz: Go to Settings->Editor19:53
jpedrozaphoenixz: Then go to the Indentation tab19:54
phoenixzjpedroza: yeah, did that already, but nothing to indicate tab size..19:54
user6jpedroza: thank you buddy i hope it will work see you next time... i gonna go19:55
jpedrozauser6: Good luck19:55
jpedrozaphoenixz: Click Use spaces instead of tabs, then set the number of spaces19:55
jpedrozaOr, click Editing on the left, and change the tab width setting19:56
phoenixzjpedroza: mmmm, yeah,  but then they will be real spaces.. :) I mean I want to use tabs, not spaces, but I  want the tabs shown in quanta as 4 spaces wide.. right now it shows like 8 spaces wide messing up layout.19:56
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Ahmuckhi.  amarok is telling me it can't find the sound system.  i assume one can get amarok to use pulse audio in 8.10 ?19:57
jpedrozaphoenixz: You can change that under the Editing section, then change the tab width19:57
phoenixzjpedroza: tab width setting.. thats what I need I think :)19:57
phoenixzjpedroza:  there you go! :) thanks!19:58
jpedrozaphoenixz: np19:58
jpedrozaAhmuck: Not sure, sorry19:58
ghostcubeis there an lm-sensors channel19:58
lakis1982can you tell me a command that updates my kubuntu ??20:02
lakis1982to download the latest updates20:03
jpedrozalakis1982: from cli it would be sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade20:03
jpedrozaor you can use adept20:03
lakis1982but thwhy it doesnt notify me for updates automatically ?20:05
lakis1982like in previous 8.04 kubuntu20:05
jpedrozaIt will, if there are updates, you might need to enable those repos in adept20:05
jpedrozalakis1982: It is under that Edit Software Sources section again20:06
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jpedrozalakis1982: Under the Updates tab20:08
icepenguinso um... this is gonna sound like flamebait, but its really not - why is there no real browser by default in Kubuntu?  I recall using Konqueror on older KDE versions and it sucks :S20:09
icepenguinis there an actual reason for not including Firefox?20:09
kevkufor me opera works better than firefox in kde20:13
icepenguinkevku: I have an attachment to using OSS apps, so I've never used Opera20:13
phoenixzFirst off, congratulations with KDE4.2 beta! :) all looks a bit better again.. Just a quick question, how can I have the cube work logically, as in compiz with CTRL-ALT-left mouse, for example? right now its with CTRL-F11.. then move with mouse which is not nice to do.. at least not for me.. I tried the custom action, but that doesnt take mouse clicks..20:14
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore20:14
phoenixzAlso, does anybody know of a app ring switcher for kde4?20:14
phoenixzhow can I have the cube work logically, as in compiz with CTRL-ALT-left mouse, for example? right now its with CTRL-F11.. then move with mouse which is not nice to do.. at least not for me.. I tried the custom action, but that doesnt take mouse clicks..20:20
jpedrozaphoenixz: App ring switcher?20:20
phoenixzAlso, dAlso, does anybody know of a app ring switcher for kde4?oes anybody know of a app ring switcher for kde4?20:20
phoenixzjpedroza: ring switcher for applications..20:20
jpedrozaphoenixz: Sorry, I am not sure what that is...20:20
phoenixzjpedroza: when you press alt-tab, you see the app windows in a 3d ring and you can alt-tab through the ring to the app you want20:21
jpedrozaphoenixz: I see what you mean20:21
jpedrozaphoenixz: Mine does that by deafult in 8.10, with the nvidia driver20:21
phoenixzjpedroza: compiz has one, and from all the application switchers, I think that is the nicest looking and most practical one..20:21
phoenixzjpedroza: on KDE4?20:21
jpedrozaphoenixz: yep20:22
phoenixzjpedroza: uh.. then why don't I have it in my install here? Just upgraded to KDE4.2 beta..20:22
phoenixzjpedroza: 4.1.8520:22
jpedrozaphoenixz: Not sure, I do know that when I was using Xinerama it wouldn't work, only with twinview with the nvidia driver20:22
williamthat new nvidia driver makes things faster but also very unstable20:23
williamI have crashed about 3 times in last hour20:23
phoenixzjpedroza: I cant find it in the effects list here..20:23
williamis anyone else experiencing similiar problems?20:23
jpedrozawilliam: Which one? I am using 180.11 and it has been really nice20:23
williamsame 180.1120:24
jpedrozawilliam: What issues are you having?20:24
williamI get corruption issues then finished in a crash20:24
jpedrozawilliam: What video card?20:24
william8600M GT20:24
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jpedrozawilliam: Same here...20:26
jpedrozawilliam: Are you using twinview with 2 monitors?20:27
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williamI just rebooting, I'm trying latest drivers20:30
raidenovichhow can i start a ssh connection?20:31
phoenixzjpedroza: Sorry for the bothering, but you seem to know.. Other quick quanta question.. How can I save my screen layout? I removed all toolbars and stuff because I dont use em, dont want em.. but on restart of quanta, they are there again.. How can I save this configuration?20:31
jpedrozaphoenixz: Not sure...20:32
jpedrozaphoenixz: You could check under Settings->Configure Quanta-> User Interface and make sure that Reset window layout to the default on the next startup is NOT checked.20:34
phoenixztried but didnt work20:35
jpedrozaphoenixz: Not sure, you might ask in #quanta20:35
phoenixzjpedroza: okay, thanks anyway!20:35
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mahdihi all20:43
MrBrainHello everyone!20:43
hyper_chhello MrBrain20:44
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knubbewhere to i configure my touchpad/mousepad now when ksynaptics has been removed from the repository20:44
OpenNetworkis there any mIRc Script for Kubuntu ?20:46
hyper_chmirc script for kubunt?20:46
OpenNetworkyeah, So that i can load addons and stuffs through it20:47
PiciOpenNetwork: You may be able to install mIRC in Wine, but there is no native mIRC support.20:47
hyper_chmirc is a windows program20:47
OpenNetworkOh, thought there was any other way than to use Wine to run the executable IRc20:49
OpenNetworkThanks anyway :)20:49
hyper_chOpenNetwork: why not use konversation?20:49
OpenNetworkI'm currently using konversation, and i been using xChat as well, but both doesnt support loading Addons:S20:50
hyper_chOpenNetwork: sure you can run addons20:50
* hyper_ch is listening to 'Crying In The Chapel' by 'Elvis Presley' on 'Elv1s 30 #1 Hits' (anno: 2002) - [Amarok 2.0.1]20:50
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hyper_chworks fine here running addons :)20:51
OpenNetworkOh, I didnt notice that!20:51
ghostcubehyper_ch, is this an xchat or konverstion script for amarok20:51
hyper_chghostcube: konversation script20:52
hyper_chghostcube: with amarok as music player20:52
* hyper_ch is listening to 'Meena Devi (Goddess)' by 'Tulku' on 'Buddha-Bar (disc 1' (anno: 2000) - [Amarok 2.0.1]20:52
ghostcubeyeah i have one for xchat but looks different so i asked :)20:52
ghostcubeamaroK: [["Im Bann Des Voodoo" by "Mr Johnson" from "Schattenmaenner"]] Quality:[[44100/128]] Position:[[63:50 of 75:48]] Volume:[[8%]]20:52
hyper_chghostcube: the script is written in ruby20:53
hyper_chghostcube: I could adjust it to almost any way I want20:53
hyper_chOpenNetwork: no private queries20:53
OpenNetworkdoes Konversation support loading .mrc addons ?20:53
hyper_chOpenNetwork: I don't think so20:54
jpedrozamahdi: ??20:54
Pici!sa | mahdi20:54
ubottumahdi: For the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية20:54
OpenNetworkWell, what type of addons does it support then ?20:54
mahditoooooooooooo much20:55
jpedrozaPici: Nice one. I know spanish, italian, and the like, but had never seen arabic20:55
hyper_chOpenNetwork: just about any scripting language you can use on the terminal20:56
hyper_chOpenNetwork: here's the nowplaying script for konversation on kde4:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/104544/20:58
hyper_chOpenNetwork: you can use php, perl, bash, ruby, .........   in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts you find a few scripts already for knoversation21:00
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2220  @ 2.40GHz at 2399 MHz (4799 bogomips), HD: 1673/2138GB, RAM: 3926/3959MB, 200 proc's, 3.8d up21:00
mahdiDoe's kde 4.2 avalabile21:01
hyper_chmahdi: kde 4.2 is a beta realse - although it runs much better for me than kde 4.121:02
MaticRC1 does not seem to be available yet21:02
mahdikde 4.1 it's not stable21:02
hyper_chmahdi: you could try 4.2 beta 2 then21:03
mahdiok. i wanna try it21:03
mahdithanx man21:03
hyper_chmahdi: then add the ppa repos to your sources list21:04
kevkui386 4:4.1.96 is out but 64 bit version not21:04
raidenovichi installed a samba server to access my media files on my computer over my laptop, but when i browse to the file and start it, konquerer wants to download it instead of starting vlc directly .. why?21:05
Matickevku: where?21:05
mahdihyper_ch  give me the way to add ppa repos21:05
hyper_chmahdi: you konw how to edit your sources.list?21:06
kevkuoh it on jaunty21:07
hyper_chmahdi: either go on http://www.kubuntu.org and follow the link in the news or you can use my littel repo collection/generation tool:   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch21:07
kevkuin intrepid prob need the extra repo for 4.221:08
MaticI have, but RC1 is not in yet, only beta221:08
mahdihyper_ch : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main21:09
hyper_chmahdi: looks ok :)21:09
hyper_chactually not really21:10
hyper_chproject neon is nightly built of amarok21:10
hyper_chisn't it?21:11
hyper_chmahdi: how did you get that repository?21:12
Icki'm attempting to get my webcam to function with skype. i installed it and lsmod etc. recognizes it, but skype does not. anybody know where to go from here?21:12
mahdibut in arabic21:13
hyper_chmahdi: ah ok :)21:13
hyper_chmahdi: I guess you could also use that... is it provided by apachelogger?21:14
mahdiand then  sudo aptitude install kde-nightly21:14
mahdiin the terminal21:14
apacheloggeroh man21:14
* apachelogger goes blogging21:14
* BrianH pokes ubuntuforums with a stick21:14
hyper_chapachelogger: you do the nightly builds of kde?21:15
BrianHsemms like they been down all day21:15
* hyper_ch pokes BrianH with a taser21:15
AdolaHi!  Last night, I started downoading Cmake.  And I had like...1 hour left (I had let it go about an hour)  (I'm on dial-up)  and today, I started to try to download it again.  Yet, its downloading from where it left off.....Is kubunut just awesome?  Or is this a mistake?21:15
hyper_chapachelogger: didn't know that... but amaork nightly is nice21:15
apacheloggerBrianH: taking a nap?21:15
apacheloggermaybe it was partying all night long21:15
hyper_chapachelogger: only that I need to restart amarok every day21:15
hyper_chAdola: that's normal21:15
apacheloggerhyper_ch: that of course prevents memleak detection21:16
hyper_chapachelogger: then don't create a new release every night ;)21:16
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BrianHI guess so, go figure that it would happen on my day off too21:16
hyper_chBrianH: blame p_quarles for the forum downtime21:16
apacheloggerhyper_ch: well, you could talk to markey and tell him to allow on-the-fly updates, he is always expressing interest for on-the-fly kernel updates, so he must be all for doing something similar for Amarok ;-)21:17
BrianHhyper_ch, oh yeah?  what happened?21:17
hyper_chapachelogger: I could tell leinir :)21:17
apacheloggermarkey would be more successful21:17
hyper_chBrianH: don't know... but in #ubuntuforums the chan title says "When in doubt blame p_quarles"21:17
BrianHahaha nice21:17
Adolahyper_ch: Ok, great!21:17
BrianHI didn't know they had a channel21:18
hyper_chBrianH: now you do21:18
hyper_chAdola: great on?21:18
hyper_chAdola: blaming p_quarles?21:18
* BrianH has flashbacks of Bill Nye saying "know you know"21:18
hyper_chapachelogger: can't you tell him? you probably know him much better21:18
AdolaDial-up is such a pain.  It's sad that a 7MB program can take over 2 hours to downlod21:18
apacheloggerhyper_ch: busy blogging21:18
BrianHstupid keyboard keeps moving keys on me today21:19
p_quarlesat the moment, an irc channel is *all* we have21:19
BrianHtrying to figure out why the livecd can't find sysinfo with apt-get21:20
hyper_choh noes21:20
hyper_chp_quarles fled here from #ubuntuforums...21:20
hyper_chBrianH: sysinfo - the knoversation script?21:20
Adolahyper_ch: !?!?? Great on!?  What?21:20
* apachelogger also always hides in here21:21
hyper_chapachelogger: at least you don't break things but provide the newest and coolest updates ;)21:21
hyper_chapachelogger: would kde-nightly also have it's own kde folder?21:21
* apachelogger broke kdeartwork and kdm yesterday :P21:21
apacheloggerwell, in a way at least21:21
apacheloggerhyper_ch: sure21:21
hyper_chapachelogger: hmmm.... is it different repos for amarok and kde nightly?21:22
apacheloggerhyper_ch: no21:25
hyper_chapachelogger: hmmm, then I should change the description in my tool21:26
hyper_chapachelogger: I use this for amarok:  http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon  --> Project neon now have a completely seperate page?21:27
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon21:28
hyper_chapachelogger: you don't mind if I add it to my tool, right?21:29
apacheloggerhyper_ch: no clue what tool that might be :P21:31
hyper_chapachelogger: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch  :)21:31
apacheloggerbut I don't mind as long as you don't tell people it is KDE 4.2 beta/rc/final/whatever21:31
BrianHhyper_ch, sorry, the ole lady came home complaining up a storm and I got suckered into dragging kerosene and groceries through 3 foot of snow21:31
BrianHby sysinfo, I mean the application sysinfo21:32
hyper_chapachelogger: I normally use the description according on the webpage21:32
hyper_chBrianH: there is one? didn't know that21:32
BrianHit can't find sysinfo, klamav, and many other apps21:33
BrianHit installed clamav, but I'd like to get klamav installed too, it's a pretty nice gui wrapper21:34
BrianHit installed fine on my local kubuntu install, but it wont install on my thumbdrive livecd21:35
hyper_chapachelogger: added :)21:38
MakuseruHi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?21:38
BrianHsounds like your audio drivers need installed ...21:39
BrianHno pun intended21:39
MakuseruBrianH: Ive never had to install drivers for them before. How would i go about that?21:39
dominiqueIs this a german channel?21:40
Makuserudominique: !de21:40
dominiqueMakuseru: What do you mean with "!de"?21:41
BrianHMakuseru, dunno, last time I had to mess around with sound drivers, ALSA drove me up a wall21:41
Makuserudominique: ubotu should have brought up a link to a german room21:41
Makuserudominique: #kubuntu-de21:42
dominiqueThx, unfortunately my kubuntu didnt. But thank you :)21:42
dominiqueSeems there's noone in #k-de who can help me, so i'll ask here... Which file do i have to edit if I want to prevent kde/x from restoring all programms after a reboot? (intrepid ibex)21:45
bjornhi, i need a good backup solution, probably should burn to both dvd / cd and an external driver. Is there any good programs that simplyfies this?21:52
hyper_chbjorn: why not an external harddisk and using rsync?21:52
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.21:53
bjornrsync. maybe. what does rsync do?21:53
Nomexousdominique: Settings > Advanced tab > Session manager21:53
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hyper_chbjorn: rsync is a sync tool21:53
Nomexousdominique: Select "Start with an empty session" in the "On login" box21:53
hyper_chbjorn: you can sync either locally or onto a remote location over ssh21:53
dominiqueThank you Nomexous! Found the setting and changed it! But you don't know which file is edited by the session manager?21:54
Nomexousdominique: No, sorry.21:54
ye||owsomone knows this error?  plasma[4963]: segfault at 3b ip b7da8e95 sp bfa7ffb0 error 4 in libplasma.so.3.0.0[b7d12000+1c0000]21:55
bjornhyper_ch, does this mean that only changes are copied?21:56
hyper_chbjorn: yes21:56
bjornhyper_ch, sounds neat.21:57
BrianHwhat the heck . . . why do I see double of every service being loaded?21:57
hyper_chbasic usage:   rsync -someOption /from /to21:57
Nomexousbjorn: Just make sure to use 'rsync -P' to see a progress bar... otherwise it'll look like nothing's happening21:57
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MakuseruHi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?22:03
WIZARDSLOVAKhello my linux friends22:05
mm__I want the proxy22:07
SiVA__so... I find kubuntu 8.10 a bit unstable at times. I'd like to install xfce for those times when I'm programming or playing games22:07
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SiVA__can I do that but still easily switch between both window managers?22:08
JontheEchidnaSiVA__: yes, you can choose session type from the login screen22:09
SiVA__ok... how would I install xfce then?22:09
WIZARDSLOVAKi hate windows22:11
WIZARDSLOVAKespecially viruses22:11
dominiqueit's got to be dark at yours...22:12
Ahmuckkubuntu is crashing on me when i attempt to access the display22:13
dominiqueDoes anyone know what to do if my clocksource is unstable (according to the boot log)?22:13
Ahmuckcrashing as in hard lock up22:13
Ahmucklocks up the entire machine.  i can't even get a terminal22:13
dominiqueAhmuck: tried to access the terminal through Alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2/F3/..?22:15
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AdolaHello.  I'm having a problem.  I've just installed Cmake to install something.  And i got this error.22:16
AdolaCMake Error at cmake/modules/FindOpenSSL.cmake:58 (MESSAGE):22:16
Adola  Could NOT find OpenSSL22:16
AdolaCall Stack (most recent call first):22:16
Adola  CMakeLists.txt:6 (find_package)22:16
ulysses__build-essential, libplasma-dev, kdelibs5-dev is installed?22:16
AdolaI don't know.22:17
Ahmuckdominique: yep22:17
AdolaOh, you weren't talking to me.22:17
dominiqueAhmuck: Sounds bad. I would say you reboot the system and do not start x (not log in with kde). then have a look a the config file ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc and disable some plugins especially the desktop effects22:20
MakuseruHi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?22:21
david_Makuseru: open alsamixer check all the volumes are turned up to max22:21
david_and not muted22:21
Makuserudavid_: Tried that,22:22
david_Phonon (amarok 2) doesn't output as PCM (normal wave output channel) for some special reason22:22
david_we are talking about Amarok 2 right?22:22
MakuseruYou're talking to me?22:22
MakuseruI was just using amarok as an example. I get no sound in any program.22:23
david_Makuseru: *yes.22:23
david_that's a different issue22:23
dominiqueMakuseru: If you know which sound device you got try and find a driver for linux via google, maybe your linux doesn't know that there is something to make noise.22:24
MakuseruI found my device,22:24
MakuseruEnsoniq AudioPCI ENS137122:25
dominiqueAnd linux knows it as this device?22:27
BluesKajahh similar to mine Makuseru, aka soundblaster22:28
gmarziozsomeone use gpsd and bluetooth??22:29
Makuserudominique: yes, it recognizes it']22:29
blueyedHow do you restart the panel in KDE 4.2? (Jaunty)22:31
Ahmuckinstall 8.04.122:31
blueyedah.. killall plasma && plasma &22:31
dominiqueMakuseru: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=%22Ensoniq+AudioPCI+ENS1371%22+ubuntu22:32
dominiqueread something about alsaconf22:33
AdolaHello, Cmake gives an error that OpenSSL isn't installed, but as far as I can tell.  It is.22:36
Makuserudominique: there wasnt anything on the five pages of results about alsaconf22:38
dominiqueMakuseru: what does: sudo modprobe es137122:42
MakuseruFATAL: Module es1371 not found.22:43
PSiL0hmm ubuntu forums are down22:49
dominiqueMakuseru: If you start some sound prog as root, does the soudn work then?22:49
PSiL0I'm looking for a way or implementation that would make firefox and banshee play nice22:49
PSiL0play nice with each other22:49
PSiL0the answer is in the forums, but alas google cache didn't bring up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94530322:51
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:53
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john__hi, I have no sound with 8.10, can anyone help? I've checked the mixer and it's not muted or smth23:00
PSiL0!sound | john_23:00
ubottujohn_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:00
john__ok but I have gnome :D23:01
PSiL0!mp3 | john_23:01
ubottujohn_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:01
john__no problem with the mp3s, the soundcard only problems23:02
DasEIjohn__: alsamixer installed ?23:02
john__it says HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)23:03
DasEIcard correctly shown up ?23:03
DasEIif use amarok (to have a virtual control of play) , see the animation ?23:04
ActionParsnipyo yo yo23:04
john__DasEI, can see the animation, but can't hear the sound23:04
DasEIpcm risen ?, john__23:04
john__excuse me?What's that?23:04
DasEIjohn__:a slider of alsamixer23:05
john__one moment to see23:05
john__it says23:06
DasEIjohn__:though you said, speaker icons have to be green (mute)23:06
john__ALSA PCM on front0 (ALC663 Analog) via DMA Pulse Audio Mixer). It's not muted23:06
DasEItry to switch it to alsa23:06
ActionParsnipi'll ask in here too for completeness:23:07
ActionParsnipIn ubuntu (or any OS for any fact) that will simulate a cisco switch and give a CLI interface to some software based virtual switch so I can practice for my CCNA?23:07
DasEIprogramms > system > preferences > sound23:07
john__ActionParsnip, use Wine with Cisco simulator23:08
rickestActionParsnip: dynamips23:08
john__DasEI lemme see the thing, I use Gnome23:08
ActionParsnipooh i'll check those out guys23:09
john__DasEl, no results23:10
john__selected ALSA from the Sound Preferences23:10
DasEIjohn__: is there more then one s-card ?23:11
john__there shouldn't be, I use a laptop23:11
john__lspci |grep -i audio23:12
john__00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)23:12
john__01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]23:12
ActionParsnipDynamips looks awesome rickest, sweet move23:12
john__what should I do next, DasEI ?23:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about internet23:15
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications23:16
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)23:17
DasEIjohn__:hard to say, maybe take a look in /var/log/syslog, else I'd poke around, as the driver semms to be installed correctly (and I don't think you missed the jack or have the amp down)23:17
john__it's a laptop, and has the build in speakers23:19
DasEIjohn__:system sounds ?23:19
john__can't hear them23:19
DasEIsudo apt-get install beep23:20
DasEIbeep 5023:20
john__heard nothing23:21
john__no beep from the speakers23:21
DasEIhm, I'm not too familiar with kernel-internals, fo me a recompiling of alsa worked, what's the speed and ram of lappy ?23:22
dr_willisbeep 50 dont make any noise here eitehr. :)23:22
john__it's a dual core @ 2.3 and 4G of RAM23:23
DasEIjohn__:might take 10 min, want to try ?23:23
DasEIjohn__:sudo apt-get install module-assistant23:24
DasEIsudo m-a update23:25
DasEIsudo m-a prepare23:25
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DasEIsudo m-a a-i alsa23:25
john__m-a a-i alsa -> in progress23:26
john__build of pack failed View COntinue Stop?23:27
DasEItry cont23:28
john__Extracting the package tarball, /usr/src/alsa-driver.tar.bz2, please wait...23:29
john__"/usr/share/modass/packages/default.sh" build KVERS=2.6.27-9-generic KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-9-generic KDREV=2.6.27-9.19 kdist_image23:29
DasEIjohn__: : through / running / error ?23:31
john__i've selected continue and that's the output23:31
DasEIyou're back on cmd-line prompt then23:32
DasEIsudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart23:33
john__no sound23:33
DasEIdid you get an ok after restarting alsa ?23:36
john__yes, it was started successfuly23:36
john__have no idea of what to do next23:37
DasEImight try : sudo apt-get install build-essential23:37
DasEIsudo m-a a-i alsa23:37
DasEI^to see if build fails again23:38
john__failed again23:39
john__make -C ioctl32 mrproper                                                   ▒23:39
john__                                       │ make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/ioctl32'   ▒23:39
john__                                       │ rm -f .depend *.[oas] *.ko .*.cmd .*.tmp *.mod.c *.isapnp                  ↓23:39
john__srry for the flood23:39
DasEIjohn__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade                      <no errors ?23:41
john__hi carl23:42
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:42
john__0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. # No errors23:42
DasEIjohn__: seems sth real easy, so we can't find it---23:43
DasEIdoes sound on live work ?23:43
john__sorry DasEl23:50
john__my wife got in the room. is one of the moments i understand hans reiser's decision :D23:50
john__I don't get it, I don't get what the real problem is...23:50
DasEInp, so back to the worth, lol23:51
john__so the driver is installed, then...what can the problem be?23:51
DasEIthe error message of the build was (last 2 lines) ?23:51
john__Extracting the package tarball, /usr/src/alsa-driver.tar.bz2, please wait...23:52
john__"/usr/share/modass/packages/default.sh" build KVERS=2.6.27-9-generic KSRC=/usr/src/linux KDREV=2.6.27-9.19 kdist_image23:52
DasEIfor some reason alsa borks there, try a third and use review to figure out23:53
ubuntui need help im trying to delete partitions using qtparted but it says theyre mounted...........konsole says they arent23:53
DasEIubuntu:run from live23:53
ubuntui am23:54
DasEIsudo m-a a-i alsa23:54
DasEI View COntinue Stop  > view23:54
DasEIubuntu: mount tells you ?23:55
ubuntumount: /dev/sda already mounted or /media/fk busy23:55
dvheumenI don't want to seem impatient, but is the uploading of KDE 4.2 RC2 packages still ongoing, or is it already done completely?23:56
DasEIubuntu:if you just type mount without anything, you see all mounted devices23:56
al3x-admindvheumen: RC2 ?23:56
dvheumensorry, RC1 :P23:56
JontheEchidnait's ongoing, should be done in a bit23:57
ubuntu. /dev/sda isnt listed23:57
al3x-admindvheumen: I just upgraded to RC1, restarted and it crashes plasma23:57
al3x-adminI mean...plasma just wont start23:57
dvheumenal3x-admin: yeah me too23:57
al3x-adminwhy's that ? :S23:57
dvheumenbut the directory listing says that the kdeplasma-addons aren't updated yet23:57
DasEIubuntu:in gparted, right click > unmount   no chance ?23:58
dvheumenthose are still 4.1.8523:58
al3x-adminouch... so...I just have to wait some more minutes and dist-upgrade once more ?23:58
dvheumenyeah, probably23:58
al3x-adminOk, thanks =)23:58
ubuntuits greyed23:58
dvheumenal3x-admin: I looked here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/pool/main/k/ and it shows that only the first couple of directories have been updated23:58
john__make -C ioctl32 mrproper                                                   ▒23:58
john__│ make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/ioctl32'   ▒23:58
john__│ rm -f .depend *.[oas] *.ko .*.cmd .*.tmp *.mod.c *.isapnp                  ↓23:58

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