[00:01] <dr_willis> all i can suggest jennifer  is check the cups.org site for others with that printer. and the ubuntu forum sites.
[00:05] <jennifer> what a load of help
[00:05] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering if anyone knew what program to load mss addresses in?
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> a media stream?
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> most media players can handle them. Some tmes i do save the  'link' to a file. then load it in the players
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> vlc, gmplayer, gxine
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> jennifer,  printers  are a HUGE topic and not everyone can know every quirk/bug about every driver/model
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> thats what the forums and cups.org site is best for.
[00:10] <p_quarles> Dr_Willis: shame on you for trying, though, right? :D
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> He should demand a refund! ;)
[00:20] <TouchDown> houston ive got a problem
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> for about a year i had a printer with NO linux support..  then it got supported.. theres not a lot  a support channel could do about   Canon not releaseing specs. :)
[00:21] <TouchDown> how can i put my groups to appear in aMSN
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Roger, we copy on the ground.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> I never use aMSN sorry
[00:24] <bdizzle> hey, can I get someone to help me out with my mouse?
[00:24] <bdizzle> its driving me nuts lately. Ever since I updated to 8.10, its been doing weird stuff on me
[00:24] <tekteen> like?
[00:25] <bdizzle> ie, not letting me click and drag, doubling clicking when it should have single clicked, single clicked when it should have double clicked
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> try it on a live cd - be srue its not a mouse-crud-issue? :)
[00:25] <bdizzle> I dunno, it might be the mouse
[00:26] <bdizzle> then again, its a fairly standard mouse, two buttons with scroll button in center, I don't see why it should be having problems
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> They do wear out. :)
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> I sort of tossed one of mine in my lunchbox to take to work.. and  it sort of got soda in it. :( now i got a stick mouse buttons
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> !info dvd-slideshow
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. may have to tru that out
[00:45]  * apow is away: some exercise
[01:07] <kubuntu_> sup im new using kubuntu, im trying to set wireless internet but i cant...can someone help me out?
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> You shoudl tell the channel the chipset of your wireless card for starters. :) and tell the channel what you ahve done so far to try ti get woreless going
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> all i had to do for my machine was run the  hardware-driver tool and let it install the b43 drivers. :) and it worked.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> so thats the extent of my wireless knowldege
[01:37] <mason> Can somebody help me? My panel's been moved to the top of the screen and I'm thoroughly unsure of how to move it down to the bottom, where I'm used to seeing it.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> unlock it with the cashew icon on the right side, and drag it down?
[01:38] <mason> It's already unlocked
[01:38] <mason> and when I drag it, it just stays put.
[01:44] <mason> Anybody have an idea as to how I can move the panel to the bottom of the screen from the top?
[01:57] <david_> how can i revert back to an older version of wine?
[01:57] <bdizzle> can someone please give me a logical explaination as to why click + drag doesn't work for me in 8.10 ?
[01:58] <bdizzle> I'm thinking it might be the mouse itself, but I doubt it, since normal left click works
[02:00] <qcjn> hi, my mp3 player doesn't mount automatically ?
[02:00] <qcjn> i don't see it ? bit it does when i use live puppy ?
[02:02] <trinity__> ello everyone
[02:02] <qcjn> hi,
[02:02] <trinity__> thought i would give jubuntu a try in a vm
[02:02] <trinity__> jubuntu i ment
[02:02] <trinity__> my eyes are getting bad
[02:02] <trinity__> kubuntu
[02:03] <trinity__> 20 years of stareing at a monitor is defently pad for your eyes
[02:03] <trinity__> bed  i ment
[02:04] <devin_> curious, does kubuntu ibex have a bloat feel to it?
[02:04] <trinity__> its not bad but is there a way to make the kicker panel menu less chunky?
[02:06] <david_> i am using wine 1.1.12 how can i go back to 1.1.11?
[02:07] <tboxmy> just updated to kde4.2
[02:07] <tboxmy> things looking good!
[02:07] <devin_> trinity__ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmpv-S5JJI4 maybe that'll help
[02:07] <devin_> tboxmy beta2
[02:07] <devin_> ?
[02:07] <tboxmy> ya!
[02:07] <devin_> run nice?
[02:07] <tboxmy> runs good
[02:07] <tboxmy> my OOo3 worksnow
[02:08] <devin_> Mmm..
[02:08] <devin_> im thinking about leaving gnome today
[02:08] <tboxmy> prev..kept crashing OOo3
[02:08] <tboxmy> errr..Y?
[02:09] <devin_> i always preferred kde, but i wasn't happy with kde4.0 now that things are starting to come around im thinking about switching back
[02:09] <tboxmy> my KDE4.1 experience was bad
[02:10] <tboxmy> but KDE4.2 improved lots
[02:10] <tboxmy> looks like a good time to move to kde
[02:11] <devin_> what issues did you have with 4.1? i just booted a livecd of kubuntu 8.10 and it seemed fairly stable
[02:11] <david_> im using the same and everythings great for me!
[02:12] <tboxmy> small list of things i access frequently.
[02:12] <devin_> david_ 4.1?
[02:12] <david_> yup
[02:13] <tboxmy> OOo3 crashes, didnt detect camera, bluetooth, dolphin preview of files
[02:13] <tboxmy> ...
[02:13] <devin_> doe's compiz work ok in kde? i remember back in my kde4.0 trial it still kinda sucked
[02:13] <david_> devin_: works fine for me
[02:13] <tboxmy> its using kwin
[02:14] <tboxmy> but in kde4.2 much smoother for the cube rotations
[02:14] <david_> devin_: i installed icon on taskbar and can choose wich destop manager i want to use!
[02:15] <devin_> david_ hows that going? last time i tried that i had a conflict between kdm and gdm
[02:16] <david_> tboxmy: what are the upgrades for  4.2?
[02:16] <tboxmy> KDE4.2 can switch user with gnome desktop
[02:16] <david_> devin_: havnt had any problems at all
[02:16] <tboxmy> in kde4.1, the KDE crashed at times
[02:17] <tboxmy> now i can run 2 users, one KDE other is gnome
[02:17] <devin_> tboxmy yeah thats the problem i had, im thinking about just doing a fresh install of kubuntu
[02:17] <devin_> maybe i should just wait till the 27th for the final release of kde4.2 tho
[02:18] <tboxmy> fresh install didnt work.
[02:18] <tboxmy> i am looking forward too!
[02:18] <tboxmy> then I will fresh install too.
[02:18] <david_> tboxmy: yeah i have had some crash handler problems
[02:18] <tboxmy> david_: in KDE4.2 havent crashed yet in last 48hrs
[02:19] <david_> tboxmy: nice did you say new release will be out on 27th?
[02:20] <tboxmy> todo - April install new Kubuntu!
[02:20] <tboxmy> anyone can help on wireless problems on KDE?
[02:21] <Makuseru> How can i find out what version of Kubuntu i have installed?
[02:22] <p_quarles> Makuseru: lsb_release -a
[02:23] <Makuseru> And what's the most recent release?
[02:23] <Makuseru> 8.10?
[02:23] <devin_> yea
[02:23] <david_> tboxmy: what is your issue with it?
[02:24] <Makuseru> !update
[02:24] <tboxmy> after upgrade to KDE4.2...nomore wireless access
[02:25] <tboxmy> removed and reinstall iwl3945, nothing
[02:25] <tboxmy> did modinfo, but its blank!
[02:25] <david_> tboxmy: eww dont know bout 4.2
[02:25] <tboxmy> suppose all kde same?
[02:26] <devin_> tboxmy does lspci detect your card?
[02:26] <p_quarles> tboxmy: that's an issue with knetworkmanager, not the wireless drivers
[02:26] <p_quarles> tboxmy: it's a known issue; I would try a different network management app
[02:26] <tboxmy> lspci gave 3945ABG
[02:26] <TouchDown> how do i unmount a device ?
[02:27] <tboxmy> is there another network mgmt app?
[02:27] <TouchDown> unmount /path
[02:27] <TouchDown> ?
[02:27] <tboxmy> i only know knetworkmanager
[02:27] <david_> tboxmy:  go to system hardwre drivers and see if its available
[02:28] <tboxmy> david_: u mean in adept?
[02:30] <david_> no go to sytem then go to hardware manager
[02:31] <david_> tboxmy:  sry hardware drivers
[02:32] <tboxmy> p_quaries: what network mgmt with applets?
[02:33] <tboxmy> david_: hardware drivers is empty
[02:33] <p_quarles> tboxmy: there is nm-applet (part of Gnome), and wicd (not in the main repos, but easy to add)
[02:34] <p_quarles> tboxmy: the new network plasmoid is in the works, so this is just a temporary situation
[02:34] <tboxmy> ok...will wait for that
[02:34] <tboxmy> but how to get wireless working in mean time
[02:34] <tboxmy> without gnome?
[02:34] <tboxmy> i takeit nm-applet needs gnome?
[02:34] <p_quarles> tboxmy: try one of the applications I suggested
[02:34] <tboxmy> ok.
[02:34] <p_quarles> it needs parts of it
[02:34] <tboxmy> ok
[02:35] <david_> tboxmy: im asuming you are connected directly to your router so when you update your pkgs it should tell you if there are any proprietary drivers available
[02:36] <tboxmy> it says none.
[02:36] <david_> tboxmy: did you fetch lists
[02:38] <tboxmy> yes!
[02:38] <david_> tboxmy: yes what?
[02:39] <david_> lol
[02:39] <david_> tboxmy: did you edit software sources?
[02:40] <david_> tboxmy: i know it sucks it took me forever to get mine to work
[02:41] <devin_> war is hell
[02:42] <david_> devin_: blood makes the grass grow!
[02:42] <devin_> sure does
[02:43] <david_> anyone know of any good mmorpg games for linux?
[02:45] <devin_> david_ not for linux im afraid
[02:45] <mooglinux> amarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies
[03:00] <tboxmy> hi all
[03:03] <SuspectZero> hey there. is there a way to view the output from tty1 in my current tty(7)?
[03:03] <mooglinux> amarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies
[03:11] <SuspectZero> how can i view what my programs are doing in the background. like wht commands are being sent to terminal and what errors are coming up and stuff?
[03:12] <devin_> SuspectZero you can use top
[03:13] <devin_> but i don't think it'll display a error
[03:13] <SuspectZero> yea i need to see the errors
[03:16] <SuspectZero> hmm how about tty1. when i press ctrl+alt+1 i can get to a tty where it shows my errors and commands sent. is there any way to view that in my current kde?
[03:20] <jdnewmil> SuspectZero: less ~/.xsession-errors
[03:22] <jdnewmil> that shows you the output of stderror for processes started through the gui ... but not those started through shells
[03:27] <SuspectZero> hmm let me try taht
[03:37] <mooglinux> amarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies
[03:39] <mooglinux> every toher app can play music. but not amarok
[04:05] <ZmAY> any expert for wifi here?
[04:07] <JohnFlux> ZmAY: ask dont ask to ask
[04:08] <Spiko> me and zmay are trying to make Atheros AR242x wireless card to work but we get "ath_pci: HAL doesn't support MAC revision 0xe2" in dmesg
[04:08] <Spiko> when loading ath_pci module build by madwifi source
[04:09] <JohnFlux> Spiko: what does google say about it?
[04:09] <Spiko> mostly ubuntu forums which are unavailable atm
[04:10] <Spiko> other people say they went back to ath5k and are happy or variants of that
[04:10] <JohnFlux> and you can't use the ath5k ?
[04:10] <Spiko> no, it doesnt work :)
[04:12] <Adola> Hello, I believe something is wrong SMP.  When I search "Kopete" only 3 reults pop up.
[04:13] <Mason> Do you guys think I should go to 4.2?
[04:14] <Adola> Mason: I went 4.2
[04:14] <Adola> I like it.
[04:14] <JohnFlux> Spiko: hmm, dunno.  I have AR2413 and it works with ath_pci :/
[04:15] <Mason> Adola: Well, I want to go to 4.2, but you see... I'm sort of new to this kubuntu and general linux business. Is it unstable enough that I shouldn't switch?
[04:16] <Mason> (for example, I probably don't know how to even upgrade to 4.2, assuming that it's mildly technical :P)
[04:16] <Adola> Mason: Every release adds 6 moths to my anniversary to Linux, 8.10 was my 1 year.
[04:16] <Adola> I'm pretty new as well.
[04:16] <Spiko> JohnFlux, well, the dmesg says " AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413, RF2133)"  when loading the modules, no 242 ...
[04:16] <astromme_> Mason: in my opinion, you need to be comfortable dropping to the command line to fix things when they don't quite work correctly. Simple stuff, but you need to know enough to not freak out when you get to a terminal.
[04:16] <Adola> But, it may be beta..(4.2)  But, I like it.
[04:16] <Adola> It's easy to upgrade.
[04:16] <Adola> Go google
[04:17] <Adola> "KDE 4.2)
[04:17] <mooglinux>  amarok no longer puts out any sound, even tho i have reordered all my sound devices so the working ones come first. running the neon nightlies
[04:17] <JohnFlux> Spiko: yeah I was looking at that too
[04:17] <Adola> (All you do is add a line to your repo)
[04:17] <Adola> So, does anyone know how to fix my SMP?
[04:17] <JohnFlux> Spiko: you could try using the google cache to read the ubuntu forums
[04:17] <astromme_> mooglinux: You might be setting the devices in normal kde. neon uses its own list (it pretty much runs another kde side by side)
[04:17] <JohnFlux> Adola: symmetric multi processor?
[04:17] <mooglinux> where do i get to neon's?
[04:17] <Adola> Snyaptic Package Mannager
[04:18] <Spiko> JohnFlux, unfortuanatelly only translate link shows up for it :(
[04:18] <Mason> Is there any comprehensive beginner's guide, or I'll just have to learn through trial and error? I mean, I've learned some stuff, but not TOO much, if you get me.
[04:18] <astromme_> if you type in "amarok" to the k menu you might get them... I honestly don't remember
[04:18] <mooglinux> thing is sound works in every other app
[04:18] <astromme_> mooglinux: Look for "Neon audio configuration" or something like that
[04:19] <Spiko> JohnFlux, ah, i made it work, reading into it now
[04:19] <astromme_> Mason: For working with kde/kubuntu betas? not that I know of. IRC is your friend here.... also google, ubuntu wiki, kde's techbase (techbase.kde.org) and userbase (userbase.kde.org)
[04:20] <mooglinux> there another channel for the 4.2 beta stuff?
[04:20] <astromme_> Mason: If your only computer or your main computer is the one that you're thinking of upgrading, I would not do it, especially if you haven't run Kubuntu/Ubuntu/KDE alphas/betas before
[04:20] <astromme_> mooglinux: Oh, are you on intrepid or jaunty?
[04:20] <mooglinux> im on intrepid
[04:21] <astromme_> mooglinux: Using neon for kde as well?
[04:21] <mooglinux> yea, its the neon nightly build of the 4.2 beta
[04:21] <mooglinux> neon in this case i think is just the repo with the builds
[04:21] <astromme_> mooglinux: Oh, well then.... it's possible that they should be the same.... I really don't know much about neon.
[04:22] <Mason> astromme: Heh, good idea. I'm doing a community service thing where I'm going to get a custom computer made of old, used parts after putting in 24 hours of service. A computer like that should be pretty good, right? Yeah, this computer I'm on is the only one I have.
[04:22] <nick__> how do i tell which kunntu version i am running
[04:23] <astromme_> Mason: It totally depends on the parts. Anything newer than around 2002 or so should be just fine in my opinion.
[04:23] <astromme_> nick__: In Konsole/terminal: `lsb-release -a`
[04:23] <astromme_> (without quotes)
[04:23] <Mason> astromme: But is that to say that any older will not work? Or will it just be very slow, as can be expected?
[04:24] <astromme_> Older than that will pretty much certainly not work with desktop effects (composite). However, that's just one part of the bling with kde. the desktop itself should work fine
[04:24] <nick__> i have 8.04
[04:24] <nick__> how 2 ugrpade
[04:24] <astromme_> Mason: The biggest problem would be ram I think
[04:24] <Mason> hmm
[04:25] <Mason> Well, I'll just wait until I get that computer :P
[04:25] <astromme_> Mason: You really need more 256MB at a bare minimum
[04:25] <Mason> Yeah, it'll have that.
[04:25] <Mason> astromme: Let me go to the website, they say the average of what I'll be getting.
[04:25] <astromme_> I would say that if you can, go with 512-1GB if possible, more if you're able
[04:26] <astromme_> nick__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[04:27] <astromme_> nick__: However, you will be going from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1. There are significant differences.
[04:28] <astromme_> nick__:  Make sure you read (or at least skim) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KDE3-KDE4Migration and http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Is_KDE_4.1_for_you%3F
[04:30] <Adola> #kopete is dead.  Is there a different WML protocl for Kopete?  The current one doesn't work.
[04:33] <nick__> thanks astromme_
[04:33] <nick__> that seems 2work
[04:34] <Spiko> JohnFlux, some guy on #ubuntu had a patched madwifi and it worked. thanks for help though :)
[04:35]  * apow is away: some exercise
[04:38] <[LINUX]d3jake> Could somebody please point me to a tutorial or other step-by-step document that will let my Kubuntu use both video outputs on my NVIDIA card to displace things on my monitors? Preferably no the same image.
[04:43] <Mason> I've got a bit of a problem... Does anybody know how I can move my panel from the top of the screen to the bottom? It's not that big of an issue, but my neck's starting to hurt after being used to looking down :P
[04:43] <Mason> Also, I've tried unlocking it and then dragging it down.
[04:43] <Mason> Doesn't work :'(
[04:44] <oscc2007> which KDE?
[04:44] <oscc2007> Mason: which KDE?
[04:44] <Mason> oscc2007: 4.1.3
[04:47] <astromme_> Mason: Unlock your plasma (right click desktop, unlock). click the plasma icon on the right side of the panel. A bar will pop up. Grab the "Screen Edge" button and pull it to the bottom
[04:47] <oscc2007> Mason: can u edit the panel properties?
[04:48] <oscc2007> Its called Panel Settings
[04:49] <oscc2007> Mason: astromme described it good
[04:49] <Mason> Yup
[04:49] <Mason> Astromme: Umm... What's the Screen Edge" button look like? The colored triangles?
[04:50] <astromme_> Mason: Hmm, no.... it might be different in 4.1 over 4.2.
[04:50] <astromme_> What if you just grab the black space?
[04:50] <astromme_> your pointer should turn into the "Grab and move" pointer rather than the normal "click" pointer
[04:51] <Mason> astromme: Thank you! The black space was it.
[04:51] <Mason> ?
[04:51] <astromme_> ?
[04:51] <Mason> I feel so stupid -.- I dragged everything BUT the black space.
[04:52] <astromme_> Mason: =/. Apparently the devs feel similarly. They changed it to a big "Screen Edge" button rather than black space. Same for resizing.
[04:52] <Mason> Hmm
[04:52] <Mason> Cool
[04:53] <[LINUX]d3jake> graphical GRUB editorFTW!
[04:53] <[LINUX]d3jake> uhh... sorry...
[04:54] <[LINUX]d3jake> I'm a Linux Noob, GUIs excite me :)
[04:54] <astromme_> [LINUX]d3jake: I'm happy to have the graphical editor as well, and I'm more of a linux veteran.
[04:55] <[LINUX]d3jake> heh, I just wish it was easy to get Kubuntu to use multiple monitors...
[04:55] <[LINUX]d3jake> I never could get it working right
[04:57] <[LINUX]d3jake> I guess I'll some back tomorrow and ask again, it's a bit dead in here right now...
[04:58] <astromme_> well, he left... and now I can't give my suggestion. meh
[04:59]  * astromme_ pouts in a corner. Only for a moment though, before he turns back to the KDevelop window
[05:05] <david_> how do i open a bin file in kubuntu?
[05:05] <p_quarles> david_: that name is usually aa sign that the file contains binary code, which means you don't open it
[05:06] <Makuseru> Is there anyway to remove KDE4 on Kubuntu 8.10 and install KDE3?
[05:07] <Makuseru> !kde3
[05:08] <david_> p_quarles: its aa planeshift file that i downloaded to try to play the game
[05:08] <mister-tea-lapto> I heard someonec was trying to port it but I don't know if it happened
[05:09] <p_quarles> david_: then you probably need to run the file; hopefully it came with instructions?
[05:09] <astromme_> david_: Right click the file, properties, set it as executable (in permissions) then try clicking it. Otherwise, run in terminal
[05:10] <astromme_> mister-tea-lapto: It isn't supported by Kubuntu if there is a port out there. And considering that 8.04 (Kubuntu) is supported for another year there really isn't a reason.
[05:11] <mister-tea-lapto> well
[05:11] <mister-tea-lapto> tyhat's whyI.m still on 8.04
[05:12]  * mister-tea-lapto can' type and waych tv at the same time
[05:14] <dwidmann> If you could invest a day you could probably just compile yourself a KDE3, if you really wanted to do that ... might have to work around some issues with it and the newish gcc though
[05:14] <david_> p_quarles: it is still asking me what program to open with?
[05:15] <p_quarles> david_: did you do what astromme_ said?
[05:15] <david_> p_quarles: yes
[05:16] <p_quarles> david_: try (in konsole) file /path/to/file
[05:16] <p_quarles> the results should tell you what type of contents it has
[05:17] <david_> p_quarles: do you know what i should type?\
[05:18] <p_quarles> david_: where is the file, and what is it called?
[05:19] <david_> p_quarles: /home/david/Desktop and its calledPlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[05:20] <p_quarles> david_: then type: file ~/Desktop/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[05:21] <david_> p_quarles: kk now what?
[05:22] <p_quarles> david_: well, what did it say?
[05:22] <david_> p_quarles: statically linked, stripped
[05:22] <Makuseru> Is there any way to use the old KDE3 style taskbar(systembar) with KDE4?
[05:23] <p_quarles> david_: okay, try running it from konsole
[05:23] <david_> p_quarles: how do i do that?
[05:23] <p_quarles> david_: type: ~/Desktop/PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[05:25] <david_> p_quarles: says  directory not writable by current user?
[05:26] <david_> p_quarles: how do i gain authority to do so?
[05:27] <BrianH> howdy howdy
[05:27] <p_quarles> david_: what did it say? (and consider that question implied from here on out)
[05:28] <BrianH> is there anything I can do to help speed up Kubuntu on my USB thumbdrive?
[05:29] <david_> p_quarles: it started to install but then says directory not writable by current user
[05:29] <p_quarles> david_: then it's just trying to install in a root directory
[05:29] <BrianH> I've already tinkered with the effect settings, which helped the desktop run smoother
[05:30] <p_quarles> david_: you'll need to put "sudo" before the command; however, you do this at your own risk
[05:30] <david_> p_quarles: how do i get to root
[05:30] <david_> p_quarles: ty
[05:30] <p_quarles> basically, you're installing something that wasn't packaged by Kubuntu, and is binary-only, so we really don't know what it is
[05:30] <BrianH> any specific services I can strip out?
[05:30] <p_quarles> david_: I just said how to get root
[05:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello.  I created a kubuntu 8.10 usb drive. Once I try to add changes to the drive, it fails on boot up with initramfs saying that it can't boot. Anybody has seen this?
[05:43] <M1K3Y> Hello
[05:44] <M1K3Y> IS there anything then Kunbutu out
[05:48] <princedugan> I can't get pcsx to work. choosing "Run CD" crashes it
[05:50] <david_> p_quarles: you still there?
[05:51] <p_quarles> yep
[05:51] <david_> p_quarles: need help figuring out how to run the updater
[05:52] <p_quarles> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:52] <david_> p_quarles: '/opt/PlaneShift/psupdater'.
[05:53] <p_quarles> david_: I have no idea; I don't use that software, and it's not KDE; ask someone who is familiar with it
[05:56] <shadeslayer> any idea if RC 1 is out???
[05:56] <BrianH> is it a good idea to set CONCURRENCY=shell in /etc/init.d/rc for parallel boot processes?
[05:57] <BrianH> I dunno how well it would effect a system running legacy hardware
[06:15] <TouchDown> anyone can help me ? with kdesudo ?
[06:20] <navetz> can someone help me with my digital camera
[06:20] <navetz> when i try to mount it i get error 50: unknown error
[06:29] <tweakedeh> Hello, I'm trying to get samba working, I have allowed my '/home/USER/music' folder. When I go to create a new text file I get access denied.
[06:35] <navetz> bump
[06:35] <navetz> lol
[06:38] <david_> german chat?
[06:41] <Ahadiel> !de | david_
[06:41] <david_> danke
[06:42] <BrianH> is there a KDE app like Glade?
[07:01] <quassel251> can someone help trobleshooting k3b?
[07:15] <RurouniJ> How cna I check the version of an installed package?
[07:19] <RurouniJ> Solved - dpkg -s [package]
[08:01] <Makuseru> Hi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?
[08:11] <flashkidd> dows someone knows how can I configure k3b?
[08:44] <dwidmann> erm, I'm worried about the health of oneo f my drives lately, this output from smartctl --all /dev/sda doesn't reassure me any ... anybody think it's full of it, or should I start shopping for my replacement now?
[08:44] <dwidmann> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED! Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
[08:51] <p_quarles> dwidmann: well, no, that's not so good; I would take that advice
[08:52] <dwidmann> p_quarles: Yeah, that's the same way i took it
[08:54] <user6> hello... i have removed some alsa driver (sound) , but know my kubuntu start in text mode... how to start in graphical interfaces (i have done StartX... window have a gray texture with a screen console at the top left)
[08:54] <user6> ... but now my kubuntu ...
[08:55] <user6> !kubuntu
[09:06] <cuznt> !kwin
[09:06] <user6> hello... i have removed some alsa driver (sound) , but now my kubuntu start in text mode... how to start in graphical interfaces (i have done StartX... window have a gray texture with a screen console at the top left)
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:55] <Firefishe> Anyone here using the ppa 3.5.10 packages?
[09:55] <Firefishe> Or is there another irc channel for this>?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> #kde maybe
[09:56] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip:  Yeah, later in the day ;)
[10:00] <Firefishe> I'd like someone to take a look at this apt-get install output and tell me what will happen if I say Yes to this output:  http://rafb.net/p/j6PNHE96.html
[10:01] <user_> Good day gentlemen. How do I install themes for Kubuntu?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !themes
[10:12] <user_> I've downloaded a theme with *.emerald extension but I can't find out how to install it (it's compiz)
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> user_: you need to install emerald
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> user_: emerald is not compiz
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> user_: you will install emerald, then run: emerald --replace and then jump into emerald settings and apply the theme
[10:20] <user_> done installing emerald. I can see my theme in the list
[10:20] <user_> howeerver there is no "Apply theme" commandas I see
[10:20] <user_> howerver*, command*
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> you dont have to apply it you just click it and it applies
[10:21] <user_> But it does not
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> you need to run emerald --replace in a terminal
[10:21] <user_> wait
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> user_: thats because its not running, you didnt read what I wrote
[10:23] <user_> okay I've typed what you said. However terminal says nothing, just a blank line
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> user_: thats fine ok now go back to emerald settings and apply the theme
[10:25] <user_> it says  "Reloading" now
[10:26] <georgij> whenever i run "sudo apt-get update" i get the following error: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> user_: id read up on emerald
[10:39] <user_> okay done
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> all good now/
[10:39] <user_> one more question, how do I enable 3d accelration for my video card
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> user_: install video drivers
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> user_: run lspci | grep -i vga
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> user_: you can websearch from there
[10:43] <ksa-24> هههههههههههههه
[10:56] <Deffy> After doing 'swapoff /dev/sda1' and issuing 'hdparm -y /dev/sda' I assumed I could put my harddrive into suspension until something tried to read it again, but it just spins back up immediately.  What gives?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Deffy: man hdparm
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Deffy: if the other partitions on /dev/sda are in use, the drive will need to spin
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Deffy: are there any other partitions on that drive?
[11:02] <Deffy> I think I unmounted them all, I'll double-check.
[11:02] <KawaiiGourry666> Can anyone help me with some issues I'm having using a USB sound card in Kubntu Intrepid?
[11:02] <cumulus007> is it true there are 4.2 rc1 packages in Jaunty?
[11:03] <naught101> if I try to run plasma after a crash, I get:
[11:03] <naught101> plasma(975): Communication problem with  "plasma" , it probably crashed.
[11:03] <naught101> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[11:03] <naught101> anyone know how I can start it again?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | cumulus007
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> naught101: try renaming ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> naught101: then rerunning
[11:04] <naught101> ok
[11:05] <Deffy> Hrm, didn't makea difference, but I found I can get the necessary results by manipulating the standby timeout instead.
[11:05] <naught101> ActionParsnip: no joy, same error
[11:05] <naught101> ActionParsnip: I should just be running "plasma", right?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> naught101: i'd try renaming that file and ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and rebooting
[11:06] <naught101> [36868.889682] plasma[447]: segfault at 3b ip b7e68e95 sp bff449e0 error 4 in libplasma.so.3.0.0[b7dd2000+1c0000]
[11:06] <naught101> from dmesg...
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> naught101: but yes plasma & is the command to run
[11:06] <naught101> maybe  I can't restart it 'cause of that update...
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> naught101: i'd websearch that error
[11:07] <naught101> ActionParsnip: sorry, it works fine when I reboot, but once it's crashed, I can't start it again
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> naught101: hmm, id websearch the libplasma.so.3.0.0 error then dude
[11:08] <KawaiiGourry666> I'm guessing the lack of response is nope. Hmm...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> naught101: you could maybe reinstall plasma
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> naught101: does it act the same for all users?
[11:08] <naught101> don'tcha love errors with (apparently) random numbers in
[11:09] <naught101> dunno, I only have one user, and now I can't log out :P
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: state a full and decent decription of your issue
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> naught101: create a new one to test
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | naught101
[11:10] <naught101> I'll try rebooting first :) thanks for your help ActionParsnip
[11:10] <mtux> Hi there, What's the major release for KDE!? I mean is it 4? or 4.2? and what's next major release!? 4.3!? or 5? (for breaking BC for a Library!)
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !info kde
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !kde
[11:11] <chardron> !kde4
[11:12] <krizewmlze> hi how to connecz mail-notification with thunderbird ? thx for answer
[11:12] <krizewmlze> connect
[11:12] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: I blew out my onboard sound card, so I bought a usb sound card as replacement. The card is detected immediately and using asoundconf list and asoundconf set-default-card, I've set the usb sound card as defualt. However the sound I'm getting out of it, is this strange horrible distortion, which is prominent during talking and usually higher pitch sounds. The current state is that videos are the problem.
[11:12] <KawaiiGourry666> If I play a video file in Kaffeine, I have the audio distortion, but if I play an mp3, it's fine. I do have sound in firefox and flash videos are fine. It's just normal videos on my hard drive. I get the same distortion from mplayer and vlc.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: run lsusb, you will see an identifier, websearch that identifier and you may get a guide or better driver
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> oh then the driver is ok
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> check volume levels for kaffeine arent too high
[11:15] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Yep, I have tried to run a search with the indentifier code but I've not seen much help. I've not seen other examples of users having the same issues. The identifier is 0d8c:0102
[11:19] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: I did check the volume but it doesn't change. The distortion doesn't become any less prominent at quieter volume levels. And as mentioned, playing .mp3s in the same program is absolutely fine. The same distortion is heard for different video files in different players
[11:20] <Rudd-O> in case you want to run the Ubuntu LiveCD on an USB drive: http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux/
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: have you installed the medibuntu codecs?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: have you tried switching between pulse and alsa
[11:22] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Yes, I have. I installed kubuntu-restricted-extra and w32codecs. And I'm currently using ALSA, everytime I've tried pulse in the past I just end up with more problems which I'm hesitant to do
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: id stick with alsa
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: do you get the poor audio in livecd?
[11:24] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: You mean the livecd install?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: well the livecd environment
[11:25] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: I've not tried it
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: might be worth a looksee, just to test
[11:27] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll give it a go.
[11:27] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help
[11:38] <knuthf> Anyone know why Thunderbird will not start?
[11:39] <knuthf> I have just installed it - and that was difficult enough....
[11:41] <juanantonio> Hello. I cannot play a DVD with Kaffeine, maybe because K mounted /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0. If it were mounted on /media/cdom, Shud it work?
[11:43] <juanantonio> Anyone can help?
[11:45] <DasEi> juanantonio: try vlc
[11:45] <DasEi> !dvd
[11:46] <DasEi> knuthf: why was installing hard ?
[11:46] <juanantonio> Dasel, No I think it is because KDE mounted on cdrom0. How can I mount dev scd0 o media cdrom?
[11:47] <juanantonio> mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom, am I right?
[11:47] <DasEi> juanantonio: mount tells you where it's mounted (fstab), you can manually un/ -remount it wherever you want, if that's the issue
[11:49] <DasEi> juanantonio:sudo umount /dev/scd0
[11:49] <DasEi> juanantonio:sudo mount /dev/scd0  /media/cdrom           (make sure dir exists)
[11:49] <juanantonio> look, /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev), dasel, this is what mount tell me
[11:50] <DasEi> juanantonio:and you want it where ?
[11:50] <pingu_> hello all
[11:50] <rio__> Hello I m trying to install some apps which come in tar format can anyone tell me about its commands or any newbie tutorial link
[11:50] <DasEi> !compile
[11:50] <pingu_> I added the PPA Hardy source for kde4 and I have a few questions
[11:51] <juanantonio> on /media/cdrom, I saw a lot of DVDs before, I think it is because of the dir. I am trying with your suggestion
[11:51] <DasEi> rio_:don't ruin your sys
[11:51] <DasEi> juanantonio:sudo mkdir /media/cdrom
[11:51] <DasEi> juanantonio:sudo umount /dev/scd0
[11:51] <pingu_> I would like to know if my default desktop will change to KDE 4 beta 2 after applying the changes?
[11:51] <DasEi> juanantonio:sudo mount /dev/scd0  /media/cdrom
[11:52] <DasEi> juanantonio:and change fstab (if that's the issue)
[11:52] <juanantonio> Ok
[11:52] <pingu_> In case it does - how do I revert to KDE 3.5.10?
[11:53] <knuthf> The installer ignored the package - had marked it as "installed" -but failed to copy files.
[11:53] <knuthf> I changed installer / packager - and forced it toi be reinstalled.
[11:53] <rio__> well its intels driver
[11:54] <DasEi> !who | knuthf
[11:54] <DasEi> knuthf: changed packetmanager ??
[11:55] <knuthf> DasEi - Adept ignored errors - Synoptic has the option of reinstall
[11:55] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: None of the videos would play unfortunately, Codec problems I imagine. However I tried a couple of mp3's in amarok and the sound was distorted like it is for the videos.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> hmmm interesting
[11:56] <DasEi> knuthf: sudo apt-get remove --purge thunderbird && apt-get install thunderbird
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: what make / model is the device
[11:57] <DasEi> knuthf: however, you got it up and now .. ?
[11:57] <knuthf> DasEi - sudo does not solve Adept, not explain why Synaptic worked -
[11:58] <DasEi> knuthf: id you do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade             do you get errors ?
[11:58] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Asonic External USB2.0 Sound Card. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/106540 . Under lsusb it states C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM106 Like Sound Device
[11:58] <knuthf> DasEi - have also done what you tell me - still it will not start. There was a database installed with it, and I wonder if this needs to be running.
[11:59] <schiste> heya, does anyone have, somewhere, a tutorial to extend the desktop to a second screen
[11:59] <DasEi> knuthf:the apt-cmd two lines above didn't work ?
[11:59] <schiste> spent 30minutes and still have conf problems
[11:59] <DasEi> schiste:cinerama might be sth for you
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/129887
[11:59] <DasEi> !dualhead
[12:00] <schiste> (it fucks up my xorg.conf, had to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: create a copy of ANY file you edit before you edit it
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: e.g. sudo cp /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf_old
[12:00]  * schiste takes a look at XineRama
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: always make sure you can backtrack if you gain nothing or get into difficulties
[12:01] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Ok, cheers, will give this a go
[12:01]  * DasEi is leaving for some stuff
[12:02] <schiste> Hmmm and for a dual screen ?
[12:03] <schiste> should be easy, but hey doesn't work here :(
[12:03] <knuthf> DasEi -
[12:03] <knuthf> W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEYA70DAF536070D3A1
[12:03] <knuthf> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[12:03] <knuthf> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Kubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/dists/intrepid/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[12:03] <knuthf> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:07] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Well I tried just a straight replacement. I don't have /etc/asound.conf, but I do have .asoundrc which I believe is the same. No sound from anything. Tried changing some of the card statements to what I have and it's the same. When I restart alsa-utils, it just responds with a ton of errors
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: good job you backed up first eh ;)
[12:09] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Yep, put it back, restarted alsa-utils and back to same as before
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/129887
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/mythtv-users@mythtv.org/msg58572.html
[12:14] <ka> Hi
[12:15] <CrypTom> hi all, I tried to install kubuntu in vmware player. I've prepared the files, a Kubuntu 8.10 install ISO-File is mounted, the boot menu is shown, I can select languages, keymaps etc., but I cannot make kubuntu boot (neither live system nor installer)
[12:15] <CrypTom> when I hit Enter/Return, the cd light (in vmware player) flashes once and nothing else happens
[12:16] <CrypTom> the cd doesn't even boot, when I wait for the 30s count-down to pass
[12:16] <ka> I am trying to install KDE4.2 beta2 but launchpad repos say FAILED, when I try to fect current package list after I add the thrid party repos
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ka: did you sudo apt-get update ?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ka: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-beta-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ka: remember to use kdesudo kate, not sudo gedit
[12:20] <ka> ActionParsnip: Hm I just used Apedt to add the sources... Is that bad?
[12:20] <ka> *Adept
[12:20] <hyper_ch> ka: pastebin your sources.list
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> ka: as long as the repos are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> ka: thats the important bit, i just use nano myself, no need for stupid gui apps to add lines to a text file
[12:22] <hyper_ch> ActionParsnip: but there are some nice wui apps that generate the sources.list for you ;)
[12:23] <ka> http://pastebin.com/m6a950d83
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> hyper_ch: i dont understand why its necessary personally bt hey if peope want a pretty clicky thing then its their deal
[12:24] <hyper_ch> ActionParsnip: I think you misunderstand
[12:24] <hyper_ch> sources.list looks ok
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> hyper_ch: possibly
[12:25] <hyper_ch> ActionParsnip: I was refering to http://repogen.simplylinux.ch ;) a wui to generate yuor sources.list ;)
[12:25] <hyper_ch> so, back to work
[12:26] <hyper_ch> cya
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> ka: sudo apt-get install kde-nightly
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> ka: does that work?
[12:26] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I'm not really sure what to do with that. You're pretty busy now though so don't worry about it. Thanks for trying ;)
[12:26] <rio__> Can Anyone tell why does it sometimes shows up bad graphics when switching windows or opening new menus popups etc ?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> KawaiiGourry666: you're gonna be websearching a bit but its ood you cn get clear mp3 playback out
[12:26] <rio__> do I really need to install graphic drivers ?
[12:27] <ka> Couldn't find kde-nightly
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> ka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde-nightly
[12:27] <ka> Rio do you use nvidia?
[12:27] <rio__> no
[12:27] <rio__> Intel onboard
[12:28] <ka> ok, I have lots of bad graphics with my intelgraphicschip
[12:28] <ka> Both in gnome and kde
[12:28] <ka> not so much in kde3
[12:28] <KawaiiGourry666> ActionParsnip: I know, I've already done a bit of searching and I just can't work it out. I don't think it's helped that I've not tracked my changes. Originally everything was messed up. Jumped back to 8.04 which seemed to fix some things, but then suddenly stopped working. Back to 8.10, everything was fine, apart from firefox and video playback. And then I got firefox working creating the .asoundrc I have now. It's
[12:28] <KawaiiGourry666> just really confusing and I don't know what to do anymore
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ka: is it coming down now?
[12:31] <ka> ActionParsnip: Nope, same thing
[12:32] <rio__> er some plz quick word what is the os I should choose at intel website Ubuntu is not listed ;\
[12:33] <ka> I'll try to install som "unsupported updates and see if that resolves my problem.
[12:34] <ka> Installed new kernel, I have to reboot see ya...
[12:36] <gork> español
[12:36] <gork> buenas como estan todos¿?
[12:37] <Greenery> !es
[12:38] <rio__> What There is whole list of Redhat builds listed but no Ubuntu what os version driver should I choose
[12:38] <rio__> for INtel
[12:40] <ka> I am back
[12:41] <ka> Still no luck no amarok 2 for me I guess
[12:43] <ka> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 workes
[12:43] <ka> !!
[12:44] <ka> Thanks for help and suggestions :-)
[12:47] <Matic> when is KDE 4.2 RC1 going to be available in http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu ?
[13:05] <user6> Hello ... istallation to 8.10 still frozen to okular-extra-backend at 97% (in white) on which appears 0% (in black). Files clearing not performed... what should I do??
[13:09] <Matic> user6: how and what are you trying to achieve?
[13:11] <user6> Matic: i've just istalled 8.04 and the it proposed to me upgrading to 8.10 intrepid, and so i've done.... upgrading to intrepid is frozen to that point
[13:12] <Matic> user6: if it's been waiting there for a few minutes, close the update application and try again
[13:20] <user6> Matic: i've closed application but it forced me to restart PC... now intrepid seems to work... but i'm afraid that the cleaning of files to remove was not performed and they are still inside the hard disk... There's a way to check the installation?
[13:22] <Matic> user6: run update manager again
[13:24] <user6> Matic: new of intrepid i don't know where...
[13:26] <Matic> hm
[13:27] <Matic> open konsole and type:
[13:27] <Matic> sudo apt-get update
[13:27] <Matic> sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:27] <Matic> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:27] <user6> ahh from console
[13:27] <Matic> yeah, run a terminal application and type that in
[13:28] <user6> there tree command?
[13:28] <user6> s
[13:28] <Matic> yes
[13:30] <Matic> did it upgrade any packages?
[13:33] <rio__> Everytime I start songbird it shows me 1st launch dialogs and same happens with couple of other apps
[13:33] <rio__> any hint to solve it ?
[13:34] <rio__> same with opera and Azureus
[13:34] <dr_willis> run from terminal look for error messages
[13:34] <dr_willis> could be some permission issue
[13:37] <rio__> how to run like that
[13:37] <rio__> <<< newbie
[13:37] <Matic> open the konsole
[13:37] <rio__> ok
[13:38] <rio__> but what command ?
[13:38] <Matic> probably songbird
[13:38] <rio__> oh just app name
[13:38] <rio__> thanks
[13:39] <Matic> in some cases it's the same as the app name, yes
[13:40] <rio__> RROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[13:40] <rio__> this is for opera
[13:41] <rio__> I guess all those apps run with Java
[13:41] <rio__> so thats the root
[13:48] <dr_willis> I wonder if its not a java issue
[13:48] <dr_willis> try java -version, and see what java ya are using
[13:49] <dr_willis> you DID install java?
[13:49] <rio__> I dont know required stuff usually get downloaded
[13:49] <rio__> and I installed from Deb file
[13:50] <dr_willis> that may or may NOT be the case
[13:50] <dr_willis> for java :)
[13:51] <dr_willis> and using a .deb you downloade its very likely it did not get the java dep
[13:51] <dr_willis> !java
[13:51] <shadeslayer1> can anyone tell me when RC 1 is gonna be released??
[13:51] <dr_willis> I just do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[13:51] <dr_willis> rc1?
[13:51] <peterz> after upgrading to 4.1.96 plasma keeps crashing
[13:52] <shadeslayer1> yep
[13:52]  * dr_willis notices that 'yep' is not really a answer that clarifies anything
[13:52] <shadeslayer1> yes
[13:54] <shadeslayer1> so when is it going to be released
[13:55] <rio__> hmm no wonder azu wont update to 4.0.0.1
[13:55] <rio__> it kept redownloading itself
[13:56] <dr_willis> shadeslayer1,  if you are refering to the next release of Kubuntu. I would go  check in #ubuntu+1 not here.
[13:57] <shadeslayer1> peterz:the weather widget,cartoon strip,etc is broken,disable them
[13:57] <Orbjinzo> !jaunty
[13:57] <peterz> shadeslayer1: how do I do that, the thing doesnt start!
[13:57] <shadeslayer1> dr_willis:no im reffering to KDE 4.2 stable release RC1
[13:58] <shadeslayer1> *referring
[13:58] <shadeslayer1> peterz:you mean  after the logon you get a blank screen?
[13:59] <peterz> shadeslayer1: yeah, I can start stuff using krunner, but there's no plasma
[13:59] <peterz> and when I try to start it, it immediately crashes again
[14:00] <shadeslayer1> try disabling desktop effects,i dont remember  the shortcut,alt+F11
[14:02] <peterz> no joy... KCrash: Application 'plasma' crashing...
[14:03] <peterz> is there some apt magic with which I can revert to .85 ?
[14:03] <shadeslayer1> i dont think so,anybody has some other opinion???
[14:03] <christ> Hi, good morning
[14:03] <shadeslayer1> !hi
[14:04] <christ> um im having some problems with my networkmanager
[14:05] <christ> when i am updating or upgrading from the repos, suddenly it stops and i have to disconnect the networkmanager and then connect it again, and thats the only way it works
[14:06] <christ> it is like it lose the connection
[14:07] <christ> could somebody help me with this problem?
[14:09] <christ> is anybody here?
[14:12] <Matic> if it always stops at the same repository, it could be a problem with that repository
[14:12] <Matic> does the network connection work flawlessly when the updating stops?
[14:12] <christ> is not necesarily in an specific repo, and sometimes it happens when im doing a normal download
[14:13] <Matic> aha
[14:13] <Matic> is this wifi?
[14:13] <christ> nop
[14:14] <Matic> are there any other computers connected to the same network?
[14:14] <christ> and is not the modem or the IPS cause there is another computer here using windows and works perfectly
[14:15] <christ> the problem is just with me
[14:15] <christ> is there any program to not lose the connection?
[14:15] <sinnes> wie kann mann cs instalieren ?
[14:16] <Matic> no christ, the connection should be always up
[14:16] <christ> ¿?
[14:17] <christ> but is annoying have to Disconnect and then connect the network manager to make it work again
[14:17] <Matic> there is no application to keep the ethernet network conneciton up as it should be always up
[14:17] <Matic> have you always had this problem?
[14:17] <christ> yeah
[14:17] <christ> not when i started use kubuntu
[14:18] <christ> about 1 year ago, but im having this problem since a few months
[14:19] <Matic> what network card do you have?
[14:19] <christ> integrated
[14:20] <Matic> what brand, model
[14:20] <christ> let me see
[14:20] <Matic> Intel, Via, Broadcom, Marvell, Realtek..
[14:20] <christ> i think is realtek
[14:21] <christ> yeap, Realtek RTL 8201CL PHY
[14:22] <Matic> it could be a driver issue
[14:22] <Matic> becaues it's a weird card
[14:22] <christ> :P
[14:22] <Matic> try with a different network card :)
[14:23] <christ> but i didn't install drivers, the OS recognize it by default ^^
[14:23] <Matic> yeah, that doesn't mean it will work
[14:23] <Matic> check with another card and if the problem persists than your OS installation is the problem
[14:24] <Matic> otherwise, it's the card/driver/kernel
[14:24] <christ> so change the network card is your solution?
[14:24] <Matic> no, it's a way to determine if you have a faulty card
[14:24] <christ> ahm
[14:25] <christ> what if another card have the same problem? what should i do?
[14:25] <Matic> boot a live CD of a different distribution and see if you have any network problems there
[14:25] <christ> aaaaah
[14:26] <christ> then could be the distro?
[14:26] <Matic> either your OS installation is messed up, or the combination of kernel/card is incompatible
[14:27] <christ> then i'll try another card and if it doesn't work, i'll change to debian :S
[14:27] <christ> thanks for all ^^
[14:27] <Matic> np
[14:27] <christ> See ya
[14:28] <rio__> hi how do I proceed with apt-get installation it says  Configuring sun-java6-bin at top then lots of terms & conditions I wanna agree but how to do that ?
[14:28] <rio__> click ok wont work
[14:28] <Matic> press q
[14:29] <rio__> nope its just stuck
[14:29] <rio__> any way to rollback ?
[14:30] <Matic> I'll install on my pc, wait a minute
[14:32] <Matic> have you scrolled to the bottom of the document?
[14:32] <rio__> yes
[14:33] <rio__> but E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:33] <Matic> is another dpkg running somewhere?
[14:33] <rio__> I guess so
[14:34] <rio__> I dont know taskmanage alt in linux to force it close :(
[14:34] <Matic> Ctrl+esc in KDE
[14:36] <rio__> thanks but this system manager beyond my knowledge
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> !fixapt
[14:37] <rio__> yes
[14:37] <rio__> it was crashed
[14:37] <rio__> adept installer
[14:39] <robsn> hi my sound isnt working but i can hear some music when i shutdown my netbook
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> !sound | robsn
[14:39] <robsn> thx
[14:40] <rio__> !java
[14:40] <m_tadeu> does anyone know about the packages for kde4.2 rc1?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> m_tadeu: in wat sense?
[14:45] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip1: when they're comming out.....so hot it burns, hehe
[14:46] <rio__>  wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-jre package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch),
[14:46] <rio__> :(
[14:46] <rio__> in Adept
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> m_tadeu: if you add repos you can get it now I think
[14:48] <m_tadeu> nop....not yet...well I'm figuring it's the sabe repo from the beta2
[14:48] <m_tadeu> *the same
[14:49] <Nomexous> !topic
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> m_tadeu: id imagine so too
[14:52] <rio__> is there any way to fix that error ?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> 'Morning'
[14:58] <Nomexous> Does anyone know when KDE 4.2 RC 1 is going to be uploaded to the kubuntu-experimental repo?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> ive been asking that for the past hour
[14:59] <shadeslayer> no answer till yet
[14:59] <Nomexous> Hmm
[14:59] <Nomexous> Thanks
[14:59] <Nomexous> I find it annoying that every distro except Kubuntu gets daily builds of KDE
[14:59] <shadeslayer> lol daily builds
[15:00] <shadeslayer> thats not possible
[15:00] <Nomexous> Why not?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> ok which distro has daily builds???
[15:01] <Nomexous> Let me find the link...
[15:01] <shadeslayer> they release them in groups,a weekly build is more likely
[15:01] <rio__> anyone help for this error ?
[15:01] <rio__>  I wasn't able to locate a file for the sun-java6-jre package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch),
[15:02] <Nomexous> From what I read, I had the impression that it was more like hourly builds
[15:02] <Nomexous> But whatever
[15:02] <Nomexous> It's still annoying
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Nomexous:i assure you that itll not be one of the major distros for eg:ubuntu,kubuntu,opensuse,etc
[15:03] <shadeslayer> hourly builds ROFL
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> for hourly builds you'd need a box / cluster for each hour of compile
[15:05] <shadeslayer> nightly builds of some programs such as amarok are available
[15:05] <m_tadeu> well I think you have the neon project...that makes daily builds for kubuntu
[15:06] <m_tadeu> or better....nightly builds ;)
[15:06] <m_tadeu> that includes amarok and kde in general
[15:06] <shadeslayer> i was gonna say that
[15:07] <shadeslayer> ive mentioned nightly builds earlier
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> m_tadeu: depends on timezone
[15:08] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip1: hehe I know...just because they call it nightly builds ;)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> hehe, as we say here, the pubs are always open somewhere
[15:10] <m_tadeu> really? where do you live :D
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> m_tadeu: uk
[15:12] <StR|Sangreal> in SK they are too :)
[15:12] <m_tadeu> in PT they close at 4am
[15:15] <SiVA_> how do I tell how much memory my video card has?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> m_tadeu: we have some 24 hour drinking here, but its offtopic ;)
[15:16] <StR|Sangreal> we are taught that in GB pubs close at (not sure) midnight by law; isnt it so?
[15:16] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip1: that's more like it....xmas is when one wants to :D
[15:35] <m_tadeu> ahhhh I want rc1
[15:39] <jorge__> lolz
[15:40]  * dr_willis waits for Service Pack 1
[15:40] <m_tadeu> dr_willis is not sick at home with nothing to do....hehehe
[15:49] <andre-as> 8.10: konqueror just crashed , and i have a nice backtrace. where should i put it?
[15:50] <dr_willis> given how rapidly kde 4 is getting worked on these days.. its proberly out of date befor ya can even post it. :) Unless you were using the latest cvs/builds...
[15:50] <jpedroza> Good Morning! I am having an issue with my laptop where if I boot off of battery alone, knetworkmanager shows my wireless as disabled. If I boot from AC it shows up fine.
[15:50] <dr_willis> but in may ways. htats a good thing.
[15:51] <andre-as> nah. whatever is shipped with 8.10
[15:51] <jpedroza> Is there a config file for acpi?
[15:52] <dr_willis> andre-as,  KDE 4.2 Beta 2 is in the works now. (see topic) so im not sure bug reports on 4.1 would be worth worring about
[15:52] <ghostcube> is the 4.2 rc1 going to be released today :)
[15:53] <andre-as> fine. so iĺl remove. for reference. it was a type error in kjs when closing a tab: "Attempt to use a non-object as a function."
[15:54] <dr_willis> ghostcube,  it was released then retracted then released 10 more times.. and we were asked to not tell you about it.....
[15:54] <dr_willis> :)
[15:54] <andre-as> very proffesional
[15:54] <andre-as> professional
[15:54] <dr_willis> 'it will be released when its ready' :)
[15:55] <ghostcube> i only read the roadmap thats why i ask :)
[15:55] <andre-as> cutting is shipping
[15:55] <dr_willis> and every time someone asks..  the releae gets pushed back an  hour. :P
[15:55] <ghostcube> :D
[16:03] <jpedroza> Ok, I just rebooted, and now I get the wireless disabled even when booting from AC power. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[16:05] <jpedroza> There also appears to be no way to re-enable the wireless from knetworkmanager. Is there a better package for managing interfaces?
[16:05] <Matic> is there a key combination on your keyboard that would enable wireless or bluetooth?
[16:06] <Matic> or a button on notebook
[16:06] <jpedroza> Matic: There is a key, and I have played with it, the actual hardware is recognized.
[16:07] <dr_willis> what kind of laptop is this?
[16:08] <jpedroza> dr_willis: MSI 1719 using the intel IWL3945 Driver
[16:12] <dr_willis> i would say check the forums.. but they seemt obe down. again
[16:12] <dr_willis> Pooor forums
[16:14] <simon_> How to hack
[16:15] <simon_> How to become a hacker?
[16:16] <bukharin> hello
[16:16] <dr_willis> simon_,  start reading every manual/guide/book you can...
[16:16] <bukharin> i wanted to know, if at al possible, when amarok 2 will be released in the repos?
[16:16] <simon_> yeh but i can't find anything
[16:16] <ghostcube> just leran how to code :D
[16:17] <ghostcube> *learn
[16:17] <simon_> c++?
[16:17] <ghostcube> :|
[16:17] <ghostcube> not for start
[16:17] <ghostcube> :D
[16:17] <simon_> what is easy then?
[16:17] <Matic> python
[16:18] <simon_> ok
[16:18] <simon_> i can try that
[16:19] <Matic> what do you consider as being a hacker?
[16:19] <Matic> who*
[16:19] <bukharin> knuth :P
[16:19] <simon_> i joust want to blow up an computer
[16:19] <bukharin> (playing it safe :P)
[16:19] <eagles0513875> !ot | Matic
[16:20] <ghostcube> simon_, buy c4 :D
[16:20] <bukharin> well, i had a kubuntu support question :)
[16:20] <ghostcube> :)
[16:20] <eagles0513875> ghostcube: Offtopic
[16:20] <StR|Sangreal> !ubottu
[16:21] <eagles0513875> bukharin:  just ask away anyone who can help will help you out
[16:21] <bukharin> i did: when can we spect amarok 2?
[16:21] <dr_willis> 'when its done'
[16:21] <eagles0513875> bukharin:  sry didnt c it probably in jaunty
[16:21] <ghostcube> bukharin, amarok2 is in ppa repos for intrepid
[16:21] <bukharin> eagles0513875: will it be packaged on its own, or are all those being held until kde 4.2?
[16:21] <eagles0513875> yep
[16:21] <dr_willis> :)
[16:21] <dr_willis> !ppa
[16:22] <eagles0513875> bukharin:  4.2 is due out this month so probably 4.2 and amarok 2 will be inclued in jaunty as out of box features
[16:22] <bukharin> eagles0513875: so i would have to add the ppa to install in intrepid?
[16:22] <eagles0513875> yes u would
[16:23] <eagles0513875> and the latest version for amarok is 2.0.1.1
[16:23] <ghostcube> bukharin, on www.kubuntu.org is an howto
[16:23] <eagles0513875> thats in the ppa
[16:23] <bukharin> will that affect the upgrade path for later?
[16:23] <eagles0513875> what do u mean
[16:24] <bukharin> well, with kde (i know its a lot different) i added the ppa for 4.1 in hardy
[16:24] <bukharin> and then when updating to intrepid, i was sugested to uninstall kde4, and let adept move kde3 to kde 4
[16:25] <eagles0513875> bukharin: you might have to do the same once u upgrade is just uninstall amarok and then reinstall
[16:26] <bukharin> eagles0513875: ok, thankyou!
[16:27] <eagles0513875> good luck bukharin
[16:31] <bukharin> eagles0513875, i'm kinda confused by the install instructions...
[16:31] <bukharin> eagles0513875 (i know that i can just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources, but i want to use "the kubuntu way"
[16:32] <eagles0513875> with apt-get
[16:32] <LazersK> Hm.
[16:32] <bukharin> yes, yes, but before that...
[16:32] <bukharin> i have to add the pa, yes?
[16:32] <bukharin> but here...
[16:32] <LazersK> Does the taskpanel TENd to disappear?
[16:32] <bukharin> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0.1.1
[16:32] <bukharin> the instructions say to add "recommended Updates (backports)"
[16:32] <zac_> windows 7 free beta is out !!!!!!!!!
[16:32] <eagles0513875> i just added the ppa to the sources.lst then run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[16:32] <bukharin> but i can find that option in the "edit sourecs" dialog within adept.
[16:32] <eagles0513875> and that will get u amarok 2
[16:32] <peterz> LazersK: plasma crashes instantly here with 4.1.96
[16:33] <LazersK> I clicked 'remove desktop effects' and then re-enabled them, and now the system trays vanished
[16:33] <eagles0513875> bukharin:  are u on intrepid
[16:33] <Pici> !ot | zac_
[16:33] <eagles0513875> zac_:  thats offtopic
[16:33] <LazersK> Plasma still works, as in widgets
[16:33] <zac_> lmao
[16:33] <bukharin> eagles0513875 yes
[16:33] <zac_> i know but its just fyi
[16:33] <zac_> ;]
[16:33] <LazersK> Any way to re-enable the panel? i'm in the middle of an update.
[16:33]  * LazersK prepares for KDE 4.2
[16:34] <peterz> LazersK: did you per-chance upgrade the plasma libs while running plasma? :-)
[16:34] <LazersK> ...
[16:34] <LazersK> GOD DAMN IT.
[16:34]  * LazersK is fairly new to linux, being a lnog time windows user.
[16:35] <BluesKaj> zac_ , have you installed windows 7 beta ?
[16:37] <LazersK> Well, will the update still 'work' ?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> windows 7 reassigns itself as the boot partition and hides grub , even after grub is restored it still reflags itself to the boot partition
[16:37] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ya mayn
[16:37] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> its all good
[16:37] <bukharin> it has always been a pain in the ass to install windows over grub...
[16:38] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> im going to part my drive and have kubuntu and windows 7 on it
[16:38] <LazersK> Windows 7: Sexy, WORKING vista.
[16:38] <LazersK> however.
[16:38] <LazersK> I didn't really like Vista.
[16:39] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> omg
[16:39] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i love windows, but i also loooooove kubuntu
[16:39] <LazersK> I like XP.
[16:39] <LazersK> It's on my C: drive,
[16:39] <tez> O.o
[16:40] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i like the compatiblilty of windows
[16:40] <LazersK> Kubuntu is on my E: drive.
[16:40] <stdin> thanks for the offtopic talk, now it's over
[16:40] <LazersK> This machine has 768 meg of RAM, yet Kubuntu runs kinda slow.
[16:41] <LazersK> It's not a lot, but i thoguht only 256 was really needed?
[16:41] <tez> then xp must be running even slower
[16:41] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i have 4 GB of ram
[16:41] <LazersK> Nope.
[16:41] <LazersK> XP is fairly fast.
[16:41] <mini-man> kubuntu == kde, kde compositing == slow
[16:42] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i can only use 3.2 v.v
[16:42] <LazersK> Ah.
[16:42] <LazersK> Oh yeah.
[16:42] <mini-man> I have 1G of ram and with compositing on, KDE is slow as a snail.
[16:42] <mini-man> -- sorry to butt in like this :)
[16:42] <LazersK> BUT IT LOOKS SO NICE :D
[16:42] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> baha
[16:42] <mini-man> it does, but I have to turn it off often :(
[16:42]  * stdin has 1GB ram with compositing (and only an intel GPU), KDE runs pretty fast
[16:42] <mini-man> just try having a few openoffice apps open, you'll get all kinds of crazy slowness going on
[16:42] <LazersK> I wanted Compiz as well.
[16:43] <tez> is there a germen chan?
[16:43] <jussi01> !de
[16:43] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hardly anything is compatible with kubuntu, and it doesnt have drivers for any of my hardware....
[16:43] <LazersK> Well, framerates in the 60s/70s now.
[16:43] <LazersK> But am mising the system tray.
[16:43] <tez> thx jussi ;)
[16:43] <jpedroza> I discovered the solution. There are 4 states for that wireless button: all off, wireless on, bluetooth on, all on.
[16:43] <mini-man> LazersK: if it gets too slow, try KDE 3.5.x :P
[16:43] <jpedroza> I had to boot with them all on
[16:43] <mini-man> it's blazing fast, with all effects on.
[16:43] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> no webcam, not using my graphics card to its potential, my video card is crappier
[16:43] <LazersK> But this looks prettifier.
[16:44] <LazersK> I have the Nvidia 177 drivers.
[16:44] <LazersK> i need the new noes, amirite?
[16:44] <LazersK> ones*
[16:44] <mini-man> sure, but your cost/benifit ratio is sucking :P
[16:44] <mini-man> 180.11 here
[16:44] <mini-man> still glitches, but not as bad as 170.x
[16:45] <LazersK> The update looks long and painful, from what i've read.
[16:45] <mini-man> nahh
[16:45] <mini-man> I think I installed it from backports
[16:45] <mini-man> was relatively painless
[16:45] <mini-man> except it %(!#ed up my xorg.conf or something, dunno how that happened
[16:45] <mini-man> just had to regenerate it
[16:45] <LazersK> You'll have to tell me how...
[16:45] <mini-man> because on startup it was loading some random nonexistent module x_X
[16:46] <mini-man> sec
[16:46] <mini-man> you on intrepid?
[16:46] <LazersK> Yup.
[16:46] <LazersK> Just wait till this updates done, though.
[16:46] <vital> is there any repository for kde-trunk (daily/nightly build)? I've tried to google for it, no success. I'm on intrepid 64-bit
[16:47] <stdin> !neon | vital
[16:47] <vital> stdin: thanks :)
[16:47] <LazersK> What is this nightly thing?
[16:47] <mini-man> KDE 4.2 nightly?
[16:47] <mini-man> and
[16:47] <stdin> no, trunk
[16:47] <LazersK> Mm. What is it?
[16:48] <mini-man> stdin: you'd have to compile it yourself
[16:48] <mini-man> LazersK: KDE. 4.2.
[16:48] <mini-man> svn version
[16:48] <mini-man> :P
[16:48] <LazersK> Oh.
[16:48] <mini-man> as in, bleeding edge, alpha
[16:48] <stdin> mini-man: no, that's the point of the repository
[16:48] <LazersK> Cool.
[16:48] <vital> lasersk, 4.2.60 aka 4.3 to be
[16:48] <LazersK> :D
[16:48] <dl> I'm having a network problem. A laptop running kubuntu is set up with a static IP address. I can ssh into it through my LAN, and once inside I can ping other computers in the LAN, but I cannot access the internet from it.
[16:49] <mini-man> LazersK: sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-180
[16:49] <mini-man> should work
[16:49] <dl> Sounds like a DNS problem to me, but I'm not that familiar with how kubuntu handles this.
[16:49] <LazersK> Ah, ok.
[16:49] <jpedroza> mini-man: Is that the most current nvidia driver?
[16:49] <mini-man> i cant remember if i installed it before upgrading to ibex
[16:49] <LazersK> After updates, i'll need to reboot?
[16:50] <mini-man> jpedroza: oh, no, but it's the one I use that I think resolved the issue with kde's tray
[16:50] <mini-man> never tried the newer one, so don't want to get lazer into a mess if it borks out :P
[16:50] <jpedroza> mini-man: I am using 177.82 what version is yours
[16:50] <mini-man> 180.11
[16:50] <LazersK> :D
[16:50] <dl> Any ideas why I can access the LAN, but not go past the router?
[16:50] <jpedroza> mini-man: I might have to try that one.
[16:50] <mini-man> jpedroza: :)
[16:51] <mini-man> the tray doesn't look as horrid as it used to
[16:51] <mini-man> still artifacts if compositing is on
[16:51] <jpedroza> dl: Are you able to access sites by ip?
[16:52] <jpedroza> dl: Did you set up name servers in /etc/resolv.conf?
[16:52] <LazersK> And you can ping outbound?
[16:53] <dl> jpedroza: I cannot ping sites by IP, and I haven't touched resolv.conf -- is there a howto for setting that up?
[16:53] <LazersK> Hm.
[16:53] <user_> Good evening gentlemen. I have installed Kubuntu on few computers in my office in order to save money. My question is: is it legal to use Microsoft fonts on my systems?
[16:54] <jpedroza> dl: don't always trust ping, it can deceive you outside the firewall because some turn off ping responses to prevent snmp flooding attacks.
[16:54] <LazersK> Huh, i have an HTTP error as well.
[16:54] <jpedroza> user_: That would be a question for your legal department...
[16:54] <LazersK> looks like some needed service got killed?
[16:55] <user_> jpedroza: They have no ideaaa about Open Source Software at akk
[16:55] <user_> at all*
[16:55] <user_> idea*
[16:55] <LazersK> Cannot Initiate the http Protocol
[16:55] <LazersK> Technical Reason: Unable to Launch Process
[16:56] <dl> jpedroza: I first noticed the problem when I suddenly wasn't able to connect to my SVN server, so it's not just ping :-/
[16:56] <Matic> user_: I think the MS fonts included in Kubuntu are OK to use
[16:56] <dl> And I can usually ping google with no problems
[16:56] <jpedroza> user_: I use some Microsoft true type fonts on my Kubuntu system, Some fonts are restricted by the EULA to machines running Windows only. Others, such as true types from Linotype, or downloaded from free font sites are not as restrictive. IANAL YMMV
[16:57] <jpedroza> dl: firewall?
[16:58] <bukharin> user: if you posses a windows license, then i would say that you can use the fonts included in the system
[16:58] <jpedroza> mini-man: In what repo is the nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 found?
[16:58] <mini-man> jpedroza: intrepid backports I think
[16:58] <bukharin> user, unless the eula specifically states that those fonts can only be used over an MS produced OS
[16:58] <mini-man> can't remember to be honest, it's been a while since I upgraded
[16:58] <dl> jpedroza: I didn't set one up, that shouldn't be an issue unless Kubuntu puts one in by default. What's strange is that it was working fine yesterday.
[16:58] <LazersK> Rebooting.
[16:58] <LazersK> update finished.
[16:59] <bukharin> i need help enabling backports in intrepid
[16:59] <bukharin> i can't find any reference to "backports" in adept
[17:00] <bukharin> how can i tell if a.- i already hve them enabled, or b.- where to point and click to enable themn ? :S
[17:01] <dl> Does kubuntu set up a firewall by default (and randomly enable it 2 weeks after the install, blocking traffic to/from google? :P)?
[17:01] <bukharin> dl: never heard of that
[17:02] <jpedroza> dl: I haven't seen that either, it was just a guess.
[17:02] <bukharin> adept's Recommended Updates = backports?
[17:02] <stdin> bukharin: from Adept Package Manager. Sources -> Edit Software Sources -> Updates, and check "Unsupported updates"
[17:02] <bukharin> stdin: Unsupported updates = backports?
[17:02] <stdin> yes
[17:03] <bukharin> stdin then the instructions here are wrong... http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[17:03] <bukharin> right?
[17:03] <stdin> I'll poke someone about that
[17:04] <bukharin> ok, just for confirmation...
[17:04] <bukharin> if i enable unsupported...
[17:04] <bukharin> and add that ppa
[17:04] <bukharin> i will get amarok 2 and the other goodies being cooked for jaunty in my intrepid?
[17:04] <jpedroza> mini-man: I enabled backports and still don't have nvidia-graphics-drivers-180
[17:04] <dl> dhcpcd isn't installed by default? Anyone know what dhcp client kubuntu uses?
[17:05] <jpedroza> dl you can run it from cli by typing dhclient
[17:05] <bukharin> dkl: i think is bundled with bind and the dns server
[17:05] <stdin> bukharin: you'll get amarok2
[17:05] <jpedroza> dl: Sorry, wrong package
[17:05] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi
[17:05] <jpedroza> dl: it is part of bind I think
[17:05] <bukharin> stdin: alongside, or over my current amarok 1.4?
[17:05] <stdin> bukharin: it'll replace the current version
[17:05] <Pici> jpedroza: dhcp3-client
[17:05] <Alan_Lockwood> Can someone help me to install "educational" packages from my repos?
[17:05] <bukharin> stdin: thanks a bunch, will try just that.
[17:06] <dl> Ah.
[17:06] <stdin> dl: "dhclient"
[17:06] <Alan_Lockwood> EduKubuntu lol
[17:07] <eagles0513875> Alan_Lockwood: edubuntu
[17:07] <eagles0513875> !info edubuntu
[17:07] <bukharin> stdin: i'm still not getting amarok 2
[17:07] <eagles0513875> !edubuntu
[17:07] <stdin> !info edubuntu-desktop-kde
[17:08] <stdin> bukharin: you need to install the "amarok-kde4" package
[17:08] <bukharin> stdin: and after enabling unsuported and adding the kubuntu-members ppa, i only get a few updates to some minor libs and kaffeine...
[17:08] <Alan_Lockwood> I have Kubuntu. I love it. I need to install some educational packages for kids
[17:08] <bukharin> oh, thanks
[17:08] <bukharin> stdin: let me try that :)
[17:08] <Alan_Lockwood> What pks can i install? From repos, please =)
[17:08] <jpedroza> Alan_Lockwood: Check out edubuntu
[17:09] <jpedroza> Alan_Lockwood: It is a downloadable addon to ubuntu/kubuntu
[17:09] <falckon> hey, does anyone here have an acer aspire one? i can't get the sound to work so that the speakers turn off when the headphones are plugged in, or at all
[17:09] <dl> hrrm, can someone confirm that my /etc/network/interfaces is set up correctly for a static IP of 192.168.0.100 on eth0? http://pastebin.com/m217184ef
[17:09] <falckon> using the acer-aspire model works for that but the sound is incredibly silent no matter what
[17:09] <Alan_Lockwood> Once again, i will keep using Kubuntu, just cuz gnome sucks (joke) but i still can install the edubuntu pakages, cant i?
[17:09] <mini-man> jpedroza: oh sorry, it's in the jaunty repos
[17:09] <LazersK> Well, I'm on KDE 4.2
[17:09] <mini-man> jpedroza: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main universe
[17:10] <mini-man> LazersK: welcome to the club \o/
[17:10] <LazersK> framerate is only in the 40s
[17:10] <LazersK> :/
[17:10] <mini-man> same for me before i updated to the newer nvidia driver
[17:10] <mini-man> :\
[17:10] <bukharin> stdin: ok, im confused now
[17:10] <bukharin> stdin: adept does not find any package amarok-kde4
[17:11] <bukharin> stdin: but apt-cache search lists it
[17:11] <eagles0513875> bukharin: forget adept now
[17:11] <eagles0513875> bukharin: sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 to install
[17:11] <bukharin> stdin ??? care to develop on that?
[17:11] <ubuntu> hi, i have a problem to install kubuntu in hard disk, the ubiquity not see my hard disk, but with sudo fdisk -l, i see my hard disk, so i think the problem is in  ubiquity allright?
[17:11] <bukharin> stdin i thought adpet was just a front end to apt
[17:11] <jpedroza> mini-man: Couldn't find package nvidia-graphics-drivers-180
[17:12] <stdin> bukharin: under sources, click the "Fetch current package list", that should kick adept into noticing it
[17:12] <ubuntu> the version of kubuntu that i try to install is 8.10
[17:12] <mini-man> sec
[17:12] <bukharin> stdin: i did, and it didn't...
[17:12] <bukharin> stdin: bug?
[17:12] <mini-man> jpedroza: oops, it's nvidia-glx-180
[17:12] <mini-man> sorry, my memory is in the dumps today :<
[17:13] <stdin> bukharin: I see it when I search for "amarok-kde4"
[17:13] <LazersK> It locked up. D:
[17:13] <jpedroza> mini-man: No worries. It looks like it is in the intrepid-updates restricted file
[17:13] <mini-man> cool :)
[17:13] <bukharin> stdin: well, mine didn't see it... don't know why. i'm instaling through apt-get now, so...
[17:13] <LazersK> And, after restarting Xwin, the taskpanel and top panel are not reaching the full width of the screen
[17:14] <jpedroza> mini-man: Installing now
[17:14] <ubuntu> hey, someone can help-me ?
[17:14] <mini-man> jpedroza: :D
[17:14] <jpedroza> ubuntu: What can we do for you?
[17:16] <LazersK> Okay, now, new Nvidia drivers?
[17:16] <skande> hello all
[17:16] <ubuntu> jpedroza: i'm trying to install kubuntu, but ubiquity not recognize my hard disk, but the fdisk -l show all my partition in my hard disk
[17:16] <skande> i need help
[17:16] <skande> ive done
[17:16] <skande> T1QkORKF6W2gI
[17:16] <LazersK> What's that command, again?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> skande:were all listening
[17:16] <shadeslayer> skande:what??
[17:17] <skande> sudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o .logmdp.txt
[17:17] <mini-man> LazersK: you have to enable intrepid-updates restricted
[17:17] <skande> with lkl
[17:17] <mini-man> LazersK: in synaptic
[17:17] <LazersK> how, miniman?
[17:17] <LazersK> Ok..
[17:17] <skande> a keyloger
[17:17] <skande> and i dont find
[17:17] <mini-man> LazersK: open synaptic, somewhere in there you can edit sources
[17:17] <mini-man> wait
[17:17] <skande> logmdp.txt
[17:17] <mini-man> you're on KDE
[17:17] <LazersK> I don't have Synaptic.
[17:17] <mini-man> xD
[17:17] <mini-man> i forgot, sry
[17:17] <mini-man> lmao
[17:17] <LazersK> got Adept?
[17:17] <mini-man> ADEPT!
[17:17] <mini-man> yes yes I use kde too, had a blonde moment
[17:18] <mini-man> thought I was in #ubuntu
[17:18] <mini-man> lol
[17:18] <mini-man> open adept, and una momenta
[17:18] <Dawson02> ok
[17:18] <Dawson02> hello
[17:18] <Dawson02> i'm italian
[17:18] <skande> ive done sudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o .logmdp.txt with a keyloger named lkl and i dont find the logfile logmdp.txt
[17:18] <stdin> !it | Dawson02
[17:19] <skande> it said
[17:19] <Dawson02> how to attack wireless?
[17:19] <stdin> skande: you saved to .logmdp.txt not logmdp.txt
[17:19] <skande> Started to log port 0x60. Keymap is /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km. The logfile is .logmdp.txt.
[17:19] <LazersK> Adepts up..
[17:19] <mini-man> LazersK: Sources
[17:19] <LazersK> OK
[17:19] <mini-man> edit sources
[17:19] <skande> yes it a
[17:19] <jpedroza> mini-man: Nice driver, me likey!
[17:19] <stdin> skande: the . will make it hidden in most file browsers unless you choose to see them
[17:19] <LazersK> gotcha
[17:19] <mini-man> jpedroza: :)
[17:20] <ubuntu> hey you guys, someone can help me with the ubiquity problem?
[17:20] <skande> special files
[17:20] <mini-man> there should be intrepid-updates in there
[17:20] <mini-man> somewhere
[17:20] <mini-man> sec lemme fire up adept
[17:20] <LazersK> proposed upates/
[17:20] <LazersK> unsupported updates
[17:20] <mini-man> unsupported should be it methinks
[17:20] <LazersK> Ok
[17:20] <stdin> updates is "Recommended updates"
[17:20] <LazersK> downloading lists
[17:20] <mini-man> I didn't do it in adept when I installed it, so
[17:20] <stdin> intrepid-updates
[17:21] <skande> its a hidden file
[17:21] <mini-man> oh ok
[17:21] <LazersK> Done.
[17:21] <LazersK> Now?
[17:21] <skande> the ive try
[17:21] <mini-man> either go in browse and search for nvidia-glx-180
[17:21] <mini-man> or close adept
[17:21] <mini-man> and do
[17:21] <skande> sudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o log.txt
[17:21] <mini-man> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[17:21] <skande> i dont find
[17:21] <skande> log.txt
[17:22] <jpedroza> ubuntu: I am not familliar with ubiquity. Are you referring to the software from Mozilla?
[17:22] <LazersK> It's doing it.
[17:22] <ubuntu> jpedroza: ubiquity is the program to install ubuntu in the hard disk
[17:22] <skande> the logfile is untraceable
[17:23] <mini-man> LazersK: :D
[17:23] <jpedroza> ubuntu: What problems are you having?
[17:23] <ubuntu> jpedroza: my hard disk isn't recognized in ubiquity partition step, but the fdisk -l show my hard disk correctly
[17:24] <LazersK> Then Imma gonna get ..firefox maybe? i dunno.
[17:24] <jpedroza> ubuntu: What partitioning scheme have you chosen?
[17:24] <LazersK> How do I say, create shortcuts?
[17:24] <ubuntu> exists another way to install the kubuntu on hard disk, without use ubiquity?
[17:25] <skande> im on kubuntu
[17:25] <mini-man> LazersK: ?
[17:25] <ubuntu> jpedroza: none, because in the partition step, i see nothing
[17:26] <jpedroza> ubuntu: I am not sure if the text install is still considered ubiquity. Have you tried the text install?
[17:26] <LazersK> Nevermind.
[17:26] <LazersK> XD
[17:26] <ubuntu> jpedroza: no, how can i try the tezt install?
[17:26] <mini-man> -.-
[17:26] <ubuntu> text*
[17:27] <jpedroza> ubuntu: It should be one of the options presented when you first boot of the cd,
[17:27] <ubuntu> ok, lets see, i'll be back thank you
[17:27] <jpedroza> ubuntu: But I am not sure if the disk would be seen there either. Is the disk partitioned and formatted currently?
[17:28] <genc> hello my friends
[17:28] <skande> please help
[17:28] <genc> ok wats is
[17:28] <jpedroza> skande: What seems to be the trouble?
[17:28] <genc> hp
[17:29] <jpedroza> skande: I didn't see your initial post.
[17:30] <skande> ok 1min
[17:30] <jpedroza> genc: ?
[17:30] <urbinek> hi
[17:30] <skande> jpedroza : i use a keylog named lkl , ive done sudo lkl -k  /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km -l  -o log.txt
[17:30] <skande> and i dont find
[17:31] <skande> log.txt
[17:31] <skande> that's why i ask u
[17:31] <genc> iam french is not englich
[17:31] <genc> jpedrosa
[17:31] <stdin> !fr | genc
[17:31] <knubbe> hello, i just upgraded 8.04 > 8.10. two things: 1) my screen flickers every 10 seconds or so. is this a known bug? 2) the scrolling on the touchpad stopped working, is there a fix? im using a dell inspiron 6000
[17:31] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> how do you make the desktop on kubuntu, like the whole actualy desktop, instead of just the box ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[17:32] <jpedroza> skande: have you tried giving a full path for the outfile: "/home/skande/log.txt?
[17:32] <mini-man> |zac|-sk|8|er-: right-click, appearance
[17:32] <skande> its written Started to log port 0x60. Keymap is /home/skande/Bureau/lkl/keymaps/fr_km. The logfile is log.txt
[17:32] <mini-man> appearance settings, rather
[17:32] <skande> yes
[17:32] <urbinek> can somebod help me ? i'hve got fresh installed kubuntu 8.04 and when i'm plaing something in mplayer i've got no picture and error about no xv support
[17:32] <genc> super merci beaucouyp lordi tchao hello frenchies
[17:32] <mini-man> |zac|-sk|8|er-: change type to Folder View
[17:32] <mini-man> from desktop
[17:33] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> really?
[17:33] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ok
[17:33] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> that did nothing
[17:33] <mini-man> for cereal.
[17:33] <mini-man> do you have anything in ~/Desktop?
[17:33] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> no
[17:33] <mini-man> then that's why ;)
[17:34] <mini-man> make some icons
[17:34] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> ^o)
[17:34] <mini-man> right-click, create new, link to application
[17:34] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> dude
[17:34] <jpedroza> skande: And it still doesn't show up? Seems to me that lkl isn't getting to the point where it creates the log.txt file, or it doesn't have write perms for the file. Have you tried creating the log.txt file with touch log.txt and setting 777 perms on it?
[17:34] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i still dont want the box
[17:34] <mini-man> then remove it
[17:34] <mini-man> hover over it, click the little x that pops up
[17:34] <mini-man> and it will be catapulted to kingdom come
[17:34] <mini-man> unless you have your widgets locked, at which point you'll want to right-click -> unlock widgets
[17:35] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> thanks man !!!
[17:35] <mini-man> np :P
[17:35] <skande> no i will try
[17:35] <skande> thanks 2 min
[17:35] <jpedroza> skande: cool
[17:35] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> hey is Halo 2 for Windows Vista Compatible with Kubuntu 4.2 nightly ?
[17:36] <stdin> !wine
[17:36] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> i looked there
[17:36] <stdin> then you'll know the answer
[17:36] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> v.v
[17:37] <urbinek> so... can anyone help me ?
[17:37] <mini-man> |zac|-sk|8|er-: check the compatibility listing in crossover, I'm pretty sure anything that works with that works with wine
[17:37] <skande> ok thats done
[17:37] <skande> 1min
[17:37] <jpedroza> skande:
[17:37] <jpedroza> skande: ok
[17:38] <derdude> hallo
[17:38] <derdude> jemand da der auch kde 4.2 lauen hat
[17:39] <jpedroza> !de
[17:39] <skande> jpedroza: it doesnt work
[17:39] <jpedroza> skande: Nothing gets written into the file then?
[17:39] <skande> i done : touch log.txt
[17:39] <skande> nothing
[17:39] <skande> i change permission too
[17:40] <jpedroza> skande: Touch just creates the file
[17:40] <skande> (write & read)
[17:40] <jpedroza> skande: Then did you run lkl?
[17:40] <skande> yes and after running it i kill the process
[17:40] <skande> it write completed
[17:41] <skande> ive senn log.txt
[17:41] <skande> and ther nothing..NOTHING
[17:41] <skande> there
[17:41] <jpedroza> skande: After it runs can you cat log.txt and get output?
[17:41] <jpedroza> skande: nevermind, you already answered
[17:42] <skande> i dont know what to do
[17:42] <skande> im desesperate
[17:42] <paulo> #kubuntu-es
[17:44] <skande> maybe can i modify the source code and compile it another time
[17:45] <madmouse> hi all
[17:49] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> lol
[17:51] <tdreyer> greetings
[17:57] <Incognito85> Hi
[17:57] <Incognito85> Hi Archanger013
[17:57] <Incognito85> How has the day been?
[17:57] <madmouse> help with nvidia driver please
[17:58] <Archangel013> Hi, kinda slow so far, but I have a quick question about upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid...
[18:00] <Archangel013> I'm running Hardy at the moment, and I wanted to upgrade to KDE4, and I installed the KDE4 packages through Adept instead of updating the release version. I was wondering if I were to perform a network update from Hardy to Intrepid, would that erase all my old KDE3 and previously installed KDE4 data and replace it with the clean install, or would I have to do that manually?
[18:00] <LazersK> Okay.
[18:01] <mitchell> hello
[18:03] <mitchell> please can someone help me to enable direct rendering for all users? in this moment it only works for root user
[18:04] <LazersK> Er, now i have Nvidia drivers version 177, 173, and 96?
[18:05] <ghostcube> there should be an 180 too
[18:05] <LazersK> There isn't.
[18:05] <ghostcube> where are you looking at
[18:05] <LazersK> Hardware drivers
[18:06] <ghostcube> sudo apt-cache search nvidia-glx
[18:06] <roozbehonline> hi
[18:06] <Archangel013> Anyone have any answer as to whether a network version upgrade replaces old KDE data with the new install, or does it leave it behind?
[18:06] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> CAN someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs
[18:07] <LazersK> Well,
[18:07] <LazersK> It lists several.
[18:07] <ghostcube> nvidia-glx-180 ?
[18:07] <LazersK> nvidia-glx-180
[18:07] <LazersK> Yup.
[18:07] <LazersK> Why doesn't it show?
[18:07] <ghostcube> this is the one you want if you want the repo version of the 180 series
[18:07] <ghostcube> LazersK, no idea
[18:08] <LazersK> Whats the command to 'activate it' ?
[18:08] <dustrial> hi, how to save the current session in KDE4???  is this proposal trusted?: http://raetsel.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/kde4-save-current-session-dbus-to-the-rescue/
[18:09] <SteBo> dustrial: It's in the kickoff menu under "Leave"
[18:09] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> Can someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs
[18:09] <LazersK> So, i'll use the 177 for now then.
[18:09] <webaska> i wish kubuntu would have gparted(or similar program) installed by default
[18:10] <samy_> hey
[18:10] <dustrial> SetBo: i dont want to lock the session
[18:11] <LazersK> suspend to RAm?
[18:11] <LazersK> Suspend to disk?
[18:11] <LazersK> Try them.
[18:11] <dustrial> save current session?
[18:11] <LazersK> ..No..?
[18:11] <antonio_> italian?
[18:11] <ghostcube> LazersK, hmm if you install the 180 package it should update the 177 ones
[18:11] <Nomexous> Settings > Advanced > Session manager?
[18:12] <ghostcube> !it | anom01y
[18:12] <ghostcube> damn
[18:12] <dustrial> okay that is after starting kdm  there are some programs loaded... most likely the programs from your last session,... or better 'last saved session'
[18:12] <LazersK> God damn Nvidia!
[18:12] <LazersK> Will Compiz work with 177?
[18:13] <dustrial> my kde starts bullshit programs and does not start the relevant ones... so i need the 'save current session' button (kde3 like)
[18:14] <Archangel013> Anyone at all? Will a network upgrade replace old KDE3 and KDE4 data with the new KDE4 from the upgrade?
[18:14] <ghostcube> LazersK, <yeah as good an bad as with 180
[18:14] <ghostcube> :D
[18:14] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> Can someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs
[18:14] <SteBo> dustrial: Perhaps you have to activate manually saved sessions in the system settings first to get this menu entry.
[18:15] <DarkAntonio> hello
[18:16] <LazersK> REstarting KDE, brb
[18:16] <dustrial> Nomexous: you got sessionmanager in kde4?
[18:17] <SteBo> dustrial: you can activate it in the system settings
[18:17] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> Can someone help me with aMSN, when i open it, it says logging in then, reconnects to the server, then when it does log in finally, it crashs
[18:17] <dustrial> mom
[18:17] <stdin> !repeat > |zac|-sk|8|er-
[18:18] <|zac|-sk|8|er-> :S
[18:21] <dustrial> SetBo: you mean autostart?
[18:21] <SteBo> dustrial: no...
[18:21] <dustrial> okay
[18:21] <SteBo> dustrial: I only have a German KDE here
[18:21] <dustrial> i have now understood what you mean
[18:22] <SteBo> dustrial: So I cannot tell you, how it is labeled in your English KDE :-(
[18:22] <dustrial> joa kein problem, hast mir ja schon geholfen
[18:22] <SteBo> dustrial: hehe
[18:23] <SteBo> dustrial: unter Erweitert -> Sitzungsverwaltung
[18:25] <dustrial> SteBo: found it,... a hint for KDE4 is "alltray" a program to send programs to system-tray,...
[18:28]  * relizer me
[18:29] <relizer> ар
[18:29] <relizer> ар
[18:29] <Archangel013> Anyone know if a network upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid will replace old KDE3 and KDE4 data with the new KDE4 data from the install, or will they have to be removed manually?
[18:29] <dreisinger> any idea when kde 4.2 rc1 will get packages?
[18:29] <jussi01> dreisinger: later today Im told...
[18:30] <dreisinger> jussi01: word, danke!
[18:30] <relizer> пыщ
[18:36] <ThreeDMacDaddy> what do i need to compile my video card drivers GCC & what else?
[18:37] <ThreeDMacDaddy> is anyone here?
[18:37] <ThreeDMacDaddy> ;/
[18:39] <ThreeDMacDaddy> can somebody please answer?
[18:39] <ThreeDMacDaddy> what packages do i need to compile software in linux?
[18:39] <ThreeDMacDaddy> just my Nvidia Drivers really
[18:40] <ThreeDMacDaddy> is it G++ & something else ( name ) ?
[18:40] <ThreeDMacDaddy> IS ANYONE HERE!?
[18:41] <administrator> lol
[18:41] <ThreeDMacDaddy> please help me admin
[18:41] <administrator> lol im newbie in kubuntu
[18:41] <administrator> whats this?
[18:41] <ThreeDMacDaddy> =/
[18:41] <administrator> :D
[18:41] <administrator> sry
[18:41] <administrator> :)
[18:41] <ThreeDMacDaddy> 310 people and all of them are afk...
[18:41] <ThreeDMacDaddy> =/
[18:42] <administrator> can you help me?
[18:42] <ThreeDMacDaddy> nah im not very good with linux either
[18:42] <administrator> where can  i learn smt about kubuntu..using it etc
[18:42] <ThreeDMacDaddy> i was hoping somebody in this room could help but ;/
[18:42] <ThreeDMacDaddy> i guess they just like to come in here and go afk for fun idk ;/
[18:42] <administrator> :D
[18:54] <jpedroza> administrator: Can I be of assistance?
[18:55] <jpedroza> One second too late
[18:58] <Breetai> I feel stupid asking, but how to I fiddle with the kwin4 dekstop effects. I am not sure how to get to the settings. 8.10
[18:58] <blackflag> !samba
[18:59] <zac_> how do i change my clock to 12 hour instead of 12 ?
[18:59] <zac_> 12 instead of 24*
[19:01] <zac_> !time
[19:01] <Epis> #tenorit
[19:07] <Epis> Excuse me, a basic question, but how can I connect to IRCnet?
[19:08] <Tm_T> hi Rikkiviisas
[19:08] <Rikkiviisas> Hi.
[19:12] <knubbe> where do i change my scrolling settings for my touch-pad?
[19:15] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[19:15] <ame> !nvidia
[19:16] <BrianH> hello
[19:19] <throughput> hi
[19:20] <BrianH> howdy
[19:21] <throughput> I'm triyng to download ubuntu
[19:22] <throughput> the amd64 version is ok for emt64 intel's processors?
[19:22] <jussi01> throughput: yes
[19:22] <throughput> oooook
[19:22] <throughput> thanks
[19:22] <jussi01> np :)
[19:24] <lakis1982> how do i check for updates in kubuntu intrepid..why are they not updated automatically like in previous version  8.04 ???
[19:25] <ame> jussiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.............. is the third times that i format this kubuntu
[19:25] <ame> uff
[19:25] <william> how do I tell if I am running the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[19:25] <jpedroza> lakis1982: Look in the sources panel of adept
[19:26] <jpedroza> william:  what is the output of uname -a
[19:26] <jpedroza> lakis1982: Then click Edit Software Sources then there is an updates tab
[19:26] <ame> after installation it required to install driver for nvidia card restricted... reboot... screen becomes very big, so big that i can't disable driver previously installed... nvidia FX 5200
[19:28] <jpedroza> ame: Does the screen get big after login, or on the boot and login screens as well?
[19:28] <ame> this is the trind times i said.. in the previous installation then i go in adept--- and choose to remove nvidia-glx-new installing another...
[19:28] <ame> at boot is still big
[19:29] <jpedroza> ame: if you hit <ctrl><alt><f1> and login to the console, you can then run sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new, which should remove the driver
[19:29] <jpedroza> hit that key combination at the kdm login window
[19:30] <lakis1982> there is no edit software sources
[19:30] <jpedroza> lakis1982: What version of kubuntu, pls?
[19:30] <ame> ... when i install a new driver in the previous attempt then i can't active XOrg and kubuntu start in text stile
[19:30] <ame> ehm
[19:30] <ame> 8.04
[19:31] <jpedroza> ame: Sorry, that question was for lakis1982
[19:31] <ame> ok
[19:32] <william> Linux william-laptop 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:33] <jpedroza> william: That is the 32 bit
[19:33] <william> oh thanks
[19:33] <jpedroza> i686 GNU/Linux
[19:33] <jpedroza> if it was 64 bit it would say x86_64 or something to that effect
[19:34] <jpedroza> ame: I thought I lost you
[19:34] <ame> azz
[19:35] <jpedroza> ame: Once you install the updated driver, run nvidia-xconfig to rebuild you xorg.conf file from the console. After you run that it should work for you to boot into GUI
[19:35] <jpedroza> ame: The command would be sudo nvidia-xconfig from the command line
[19:35] <jpedroza> ame: After that , follow the prompts
[19:35] <ame> jpedroza:
[19:36] <ame> jpedroza: but what i had to install???
[19:36] <throughput> one moment... on the mirror there is the following text: "If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead."
[19:37] <jpedroza> ame: If you still have an nvidia driver installed, just press <ctrl><alt><F1>, login to the console and type that command.
[19:37] <ame> jpedroza:
[19:37] <ame> ok
[19:37] <jpedroza> throughput: that is correct
[19:38] <jpedroza> throughput: But I think the 64 bit image will still work on intel-64
[19:38] <jpedroza> throughput: But I have never tried it
[19:38] <jpedroza> brb
[19:39] <lakis1982> kubuntu intrepid
[19:40] <Dbeaver> can some one help me out
[19:40] <Dbeaver> ?
[19:41] <jpedroza> back
[19:42] <jpedroza> lakis1982: So you launch Adept, click on sources, and in the middle of the window there is no edit software sources button?
[19:42] <jpedroza> Dbeaver: What do you need?
[19:42] <phoenixz> Are there already KDE4 versions of konversation and quanta?
[19:42] <lakis1982> its a button saying sources
[19:42] <lakis1982> but there is not edit   button
[19:42] <energY> Hello
[19:43] <jpedroza> phoenixz: There is no KDE4 vfersion of Quanta, yet.
[19:43] <energY> I want my kubuntu too loose the "k"... How?
[19:43] <jpedroza> lakis, click sources, then it will change
[19:43] <jpedroza> energY: Download ubuntu
[19:43] <jpedroza> phoenixz: But the KDE3 versions will work
[19:44] <energY> jdnewmil: I've spent 12 houres installing and updating this thing... Do I really have to start over?
[19:44] <phoenixz> jpedroza: I know it does, Im using it :) I was just wondering if there is anything new in the pipeline for the editor
[19:44] <jpedroza> energY: You can also install gnome or another WM and change your login session type to gnome
[19:44] <phoenixz> energY: Just install gnome-desktop package..
[19:44] <phoenixz> energY: then at login you can choose either KDE or GNOME, as you wish
[19:45] <energY> Not the ubuntu-desktop package?
[19:45] <mluser> Couldnt he also just install ubuntu-desktop?
[19:45] <jpedroza> phoenixz: I know they are working on it, but it is more than a simple port, they are completely changing the underlying editor from kate to kdevelop
[19:45] <user6> jpedroza: (i'm ame) after remove nvidia-glx-new ... what is new command?
[19:45] <user6> jpedroza: (i'm ame) after remove nvidia-glx-new ... what is next command?
[19:45] <phoenixz> jpedroza: basically going from scratch that meanns?
[19:46] <denis__> !de
[19:47] <jpedroza> user6: You will need to install the newer driver package, or leave the old on, either way, then run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:47] <user6> thank buddy
[19:47] <jpedroza> phoenixz: The main developer is usually on #quanta on this server as well
[19:47] <jpedroza> user6: No problem
[19:47] <phoenixz> jpedroza: thanks!
[19:48] <jpedroza> phoenixz: np
[19:48] <user6> jpedroza: sudo nvidia-xconfig (command not found)
[19:49] <jpedroza> user6: you will need to re-install the nvidia driver first
[19:50] <user6> so sudo install apt-get nvidia-glx
[19:50] <jpedroza> user6: yes
[19:50] <jpedroza> user6: That will install nvidia-xconfig, i think
[19:53] <phoenixz> jpedroza: Just in case you might know.. How can I configure quanta to have tabs of only 4 spaces wide?
[19:53] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Go to Settings->Editor
[19:54] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Then go to the Indentation tab
[19:54] <phoenixz> jpedroza: yeah, did that already, but nothing to indicate tab size..
[19:55] <user6> jpedroza: thank you buddy i hope it will work see you next time... i gonna go
[19:55] <jpedroza> user6: Good luck
[19:55] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Click Use spaces instead of tabs, then set the number of spaces
[19:56] <jpedroza> Or, click Editing on the left, and change the tab width setting
[19:56] <phoenixz> jpedroza: mmmm, yeah,  but then they will be real spaces.. :) I mean I want to use tabs, not spaces, but I  want the tabs shown in quanta as 4 spaces wide.. right now it shows like 8 spaces wide messing up layout.
[19:57] <Ahmuck> hi.  amarok is telling me it can't find the sound system.  i assume one can get amarok to use pulse audio in 8.10 ?
[19:57] <jpedroza> phoenixz: You can change that under the Editing section, then change the tab width
[19:57] <phoenixz> jpedroza: tab width setting.. thats what I need I think :)
[19:58] <phoenixz> jpedroza:  there you go! :) thanks!
[19:58] <jpedroza> phoenixz: np
[19:58] <jpedroza> Ahmuck: Not sure, sorry
[19:58] <ghostcube> is there an lm-sensors channel
[19:58] <ghostcube> oo
[20:02] <lakis1982> can you tell me a command that updates my kubuntu ??
[20:03] <lakis1982> to download the latest updates
[20:03] <jpedroza> lakis1982: from cli it would be sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:03] <jpedroza> or you can use adept
[20:05] <lakis1982> but thwhy it doesnt notify me for updates automatically ?
[20:05] <lakis1982> like in previous 8.04 kubuntu
[20:05] <jpedroza> It will, if there are updates, you might need to enable those repos in adept
[20:06] <jpedroza> lakis1982: It is under that Edit Software Sources section again
[20:07] <jpedroza> newaliases
[20:08] <jpedroza> lakis1982: Under the Updates tab
[20:09] <icepenguin> so um... this is gonna sound like flamebait, but its really not - why is there no real browser by default in Kubuntu?  I recall using Konqueror on older KDE versions and it sucks :S
[20:09] <icepenguin> is there an actual reason for not including Firefox?
[20:13] <kevku> for me opera works better than firefox in kde
[20:13] <icepenguin> kevku: I have an attachment to using OSS apps, so I've never used Opera
[20:14] <phoenixz> First off, congratulations with KDE4.2 beta! :) all looks a bit better again.. Just a quick question, how can I have the cube work logically, as in compiz with CTRL-ALT-left mouse, for example? right now its with CTRL-F11.. then move with mouse which is not nice to do.. at least not for me.. I tried the custom action, but that doesnt take mouse clicks..
[20:14] <solid_liq> !ping
[20:14] <phoenixz> Also, does anybody know of a app ring switcher for kde4?
[20:20] <phoenixz> how can I have the cube work logically, as in compiz with CTRL-ALT-left mouse, for example? right now its with CTRL-F11.. then move with mouse which is not nice to do.. at least not for me.. I tried the custom action, but that doesnt take mouse clicks..
[20:20] <jpedroza> phoenixz: App ring switcher?
[20:20] <phoenixz> Also, dAlso, does anybody know of a app ring switcher for kde4?oes anybody know of a app ring switcher for kde4?
[20:20] <phoenixz> jpedroza: ring switcher for applications..
[20:20] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Sorry, I am not sure what that is...
[20:21] <phoenixz> jpedroza: when you press alt-tab, you see the app windows in a 3d ring and you can alt-tab through the ring to the app you want
[20:21] <jpedroza> phoenixz: I see what you mean
[20:21] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Mine does that by deafult in 8.10, with the nvidia driver
[20:21] <phoenixz> jpedroza: compiz has one, and from all the application switchers, I think that is the nicest looking and most practical one..
[20:21] <phoenixz> jpedroza: on KDE4?
[20:22] <jpedroza> phoenixz: yep
[20:22] <phoenixz> jpedroza: uh.. then why don't I have it in my install here? Just upgraded to KDE4.2 beta..
[20:22] <phoenixz> jpedroza: 4.1.85
[20:22] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Not sure, I do know that when I was using Xinerama it wouldn't work, only with twinview with the nvidia driver
[20:23] <william> that new nvidia driver makes things faster but also very unstable
[20:23] <william> I have crashed about 3 times in last hour
[20:23] <phoenixz> jpedroza: I cant find it in the effects list here..
[20:23] <william> is anyone else experiencing similiar problems?
[20:23] <jpedroza> william: Which one? I am using 180.11 and it has been really nice
[20:24] <william> same 180.11
[20:24] <jpedroza> william: What issues are you having?
[20:24] <william> I get corruption issues then finished in a crash
[20:24] <jpedroza> william: What video card?
[20:24] <william> 8600M GT
[20:24] <william> u?
[20:26] <jpedroza> william: Same here...
[20:27] <jpedroza> william: Are you using twinview with 2 monitors?
[20:30] <william> nope
[20:30] <william> I just rebooting, I'm trying latest drivers
[20:31] <raidenovich> how can i start a ssh connection?
[20:31] <phoenixz> jpedroza: Sorry for the bothering, but you seem to know.. Other quick quanta question.. How can I save my screen layout? I removed all toolbars and stuff because I dont use em, dont want em.. but on restart of quanta, they are there again.. How can I save this configuration?
[20:32] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Not sure...
[20:34] <jpedroza> phoenixz: You could check under Settings->Configure Quanta-> User Interface and make sure that Reset window layout to the default on the next startup is NOT checked.
[20:35] <phoenixz> tried but didnt work
[20:35] <jpedroza> phoenixz: Not sure, you might ask in #quanta
[20:35] <phoenixz> jpedroza: okay, thanks anyway!
[20:43] <mahdi> hi all
[20:43] <MrBrain> Hello everyone!
[20:44] <hyper_ch> hello MrBrain
[20:44] <knubbe> where to i configure my touchpad/mousepad now when ksynaptics has been removed from the repository
[20:45] <knubbe> s/to/do
[20:46] <OpenNetwork> is there any mIRc Script for Kubuntu ?
[20:46] <hyper_ch> mirc script for kubunt?
[20:47] <OpenNetwork> yeah, So that i can load addons and stuffs through it
[20:47] <Pici> OpenNetwork: You may be able to install mIRC in Wine, but there is no native mIRC support.
[20:47] <hyper_ch> mirc is a windows program
[20:49] <OpenNetwork> Oh, thought there was any other way than to use Wine to run the executable IRc
[20:49] <OpenNetwork> Thanks anyway :)
[20:49] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: why not use konversation?
[20:50] <mahdi> #sex
[20:50] <OpenNetwork> I'm currently using konversation, and i been using xChat as well, but both doesnt support loading Addons:S
[20:50] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: sure you can run addons
[20:50]  * hyper_ch is listening to 'Crying In The Chapel' by 'Elvis Presley' on 'Elv1s 30 #1 Hits' (anno: 2002) - [Amarok 2.0.1]
[20:51] <hyper_ch> works fine here running addons :)
[20:51] <OpenNetwork> Oh, I didnt notice that!
[20:51] <ghostcube> hyper_ch, is this an xchat or konverstion script for amarok
[20:51] <ghostcube> :)
[20:52] <hyper_ch> ghostcube: konversation script
[20:52] <hyper_ch> ghostcube: with amarok as music player
[20:52]  * hyper_ch is listening to 'Meena Devi (Goddess)' by 'Tulku' on 'Buddha-Bar (disc 1' (anno: 2000) - [Amarok 2.0.1]
[20:52] <ghostcube> yeah i have one for xchat but looks different so i asked :)
[20:52] <ghostcube> amaroK: [["Im Bann Des Voodoo" by "Mr Johnson" from "Schattenmaenner"]] Quality:[[44100/128]] Position:[[63:50 of 75:48]] Volume:[[8%]]
[20:53] <hyper_ch> ghostcube: the script is written in ruby
[20:53] <mahdi> خخخخخخخخخخخخخخخ
[20:53] <hyper_ch> ghostcube: I could adjust it to almost any way I want
[20:53] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: no private queries
[20:53] <OpenNetwork> does Konversation support loading .mrc addons ?
[20:54] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: I don't think so
[20:54] <jpedroza> mahdi: ??
[20:54] <Pici> !sa | mahdi
[20:54] <OpenNetwork> Well, what type of addons does it support then ?
[20:55] <mahdi> thanx
[20:55] <mahdi> toooooooooooo much
[20:55] <jpedroza> Pici: Nice one. I know spanish, italian, and the like, but had never seen arabic
[20:56] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: just about any scripting language you can use on the terminal
[20:58] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: here's the nowplaying script for konversation on kde4:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/104544/
[21:00] <hyper_ch> OpenNetwork: you can use php, perl, bash, ruby, .........   in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts you find a few scripts already for knoversation
[21:00] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2220  @ 2.40GHz at 2399 MHz (4799 bogomips), HD: 1673/2138GB, RAM: 3926/3959MB, 200 proc's, 3.8d up
[21:01] <mahdi> Doe's kde 4.2 avalabile
[21:01] <mahdi> ???????
[21:02] <hyper_ch> mahdi: kde 4.2 is a beta realse - although it runs much better for me than kde 4.1
[21:02] <Matic> RC1 does not seem to be available yet
[21:02] <mahdi> kde 4.1 it's not stable
[21:03] <hyper_ch> mahdi: you could try 4.2 beta 2 then
[21:03] <mahdi> ok. i wanna try it
[21:03] <mahdi> thanx man
[21:04] <hyper_ch> mahdi: then add the ppa repos to your sources list
[21:04] <kevku> i386 4:4.1.96 is out but 64 bit version not
[21:05] <raidenovich> i installed a samba server to access my media files on my computer over my laptop, but when i browse to the file and start it, konquerer wants to download it instead of starting vlc directly .. why?
[21:05] <Matic> kevku: where?
[21:05] <mahdi> hyper_ch  give me the way to add ppa repos
[21:06] <hyper_ch> mahdi: you konw how to edit your sources.list?
[21:06] <mahdi> yes
[21:07] <kevku> oh it on jaunty
[21:07] <hyper_ch> mahdi: either go on http://www.kubuntu.org and follow the link in the news or you can use my littel repo collection/generation tool:   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[21:08] <kevku> in intrepid prob need the extra repo for 4.2
[21:08] <Matic> I have, but RC1 is not in yet, only beta2
[21:09] <mahdi> hyper_ch : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main
[21:09] <hyper_ch> mahdi: looks ok :)
[21:09] <hyper_ch> actually
[21:10] <hyper_ch> actually not really
[21:10] <hyper_ch> project neon is nightly built of amarok
[21:11] <hyper_ch> isn't it?
[21:12] <hyper_ch> mahdi: how did you get that repository?
[21:12] <Ick> i'm attempting to get my webcam to function with skype. i installed it and lsmod etc. recognizes it, but skype does not. anybody know where to go from here?
[21:13] <mahdi> http://linuxac.org/forum/showthread.php?p=170139
[21:13] <mahdi> but in arabic
[21:13] <hyper_ch> mahdi: ah ok :)
[21:14] <hyper_ch> mahdi: I guess you could also use that... is it provided by apachelogger?
[21:14] <mahdi> and then  sudo aptitude install kde-nightly
[21:14] <mahdi> in the terminal
[21:14] <apachelogger> oh man
[21:14]  * apachelogger goes blogging
[21:14]  * BrianH pokes ubuntuforums with a stick
[21:15] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: you do the nightly builds of kde?
[21:15] <apachelogger> aye
[21:15] <BrianH> semms like they been down all day
[21:15]  * hyper_ch pokes BrianH with a taser
[21:15] <Adola> Hi!  Last night, I started downoading Cmake.  And I had like...1 hour left (I had let it go about an hour)  (I'm on dial-up)  and today, I started to try to download it again.  Yet, its downloading from where it left off.....Is kubunut just awesome?  Or is this a mistake?
[21:15] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: didn't know that... but amaork nightly is nice
[21:15] <apachelogger> BrianH: taking a nap?
[21:15] <apachelogger> maybe it was partying all night long
[21:15] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: only that I need to restart amarok every day
[21:15] <hyper_ch> Adola: that's normal
[21:16] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: that of course prevents memleak detection
[21:16] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: then don't create a new release every night ;)
[21:16] <BrianH> I guess so, go figure that it would happen on my day off too
[21:16] <hyper_ch> BrianH: blame p_quarles for the forum downtime
[21:17] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: well, you could talk to markey and tell him to allow on-the-fly updates, he is always expressing interest for on-the-fly kernel updates, so he must be all for doing something similar for Amarok ;-)
[21:17] <BrianH> hyper_ch, oh yeah?  what happened?
[21:17] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: I could tell leinir :)
[21:17] <apachelogger> markey would be more successful
[21:17] <hyper_ch> BrianH: don't know... but in #ubuntuforums the chan title says "When in doubt blame p_quarles"
[21:17] <BrianH> ahaha nice
[21:17] <Adola> hyper_ch: Ok, great!
[21:18] <BrianH> I didn't know they had a channel
[21:18] <hyper_ch> BrianH: now you do
[21:18] <hyper_ch> Adola: great on?
[21:18] <hyper_ch> Adola: blaming p_quarles?
[21:18]  * BrianH has flashbacks of Bill Nye saying "know you know"
[21:18] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: can't you tell him? you probably know him much better
[21:18] <Adola> Dial-up is such a pain.  It's sad that a 7MB program can take over 2 hours to downlod
[21:18] <BrianH> Now*
[21:18] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: busy blogging
[21:19] <BrianH> stupid keyboard keeps moving keys on me today
[21:19] <p_quarles> at the moment, an irc channel is *all* we have
[21:20] <BrianH> trying to figure out why the livecd can't find sysinfo with apt-get
[21:20] <hyper_ch> oh noes
[21:20] <hyper_ch> p_quarles fled here from #ubuntuforums...
[21:20] <hyper_ch> BrianH: sysinfo - the knoversation script?
[21:20] <Adola> hyper_ch: !?!?? Great on!?  What?
[21:21]  * apachelogger also always hides in here
[21:21] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: at least you don't break things but provide the newest and coolest updates ;)
[21:21] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: would kde-nightly also have it's own kde folder?
[21:21]  * apachelogger broke kdeartwork and kdm yesterday :P
[21:21] <apachelogger> well, in a way at least
[21:21] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: sure
[21:22] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: hmmm.... is it different repos for amarok and kde nightly?
[21:25] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: no
[21:26] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: hmmm, then I should change the description in my tool
[21:27] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: I use this for amarok:  http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon  --> Project neon now have a completely seperate page?
[21:28] <apachelogger> !neon
[21:29] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: you don't mind if I add it to my tool, right?
[21:31] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: no clue what tool that might be :P
[21:31] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch  :)
[21:31] <apachelogger> but I don't mind as long as you don't tell people it is KDE 4.2 beta/rc/final/whatever
[21:31] <BrianH> hyper_ch, sorry, the ole lady came home complaining up a storm and I got suckered into dragging kerosene and groceries through 3 foot of snow
[21:32] <BrianH> by sysinfo, I mean the application sysinfo
[21:32] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: I normally use the description according on the webpage
[21:32] <hyper_ch> BrianH: there is one? didn't know that
[21:33] <BrianH> it can't find sysinfo, klamav, and many other apps
[21:34] <BrianH> it installed clamav, but I'd like to get klamav installed too, it's a pretty nice gui wrapper
[21:35] <BrianH> it installed fine on my local kubuntu install, but it wont install on my thumbdrive livecd
[21:38] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: added :)
[21:38] <Makuseru> Hi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?
[21:39] <BrianH> sounds like your audio drivers need installed ...
[21:39] <BrianH> no pun intended
[21:39] <Makuseru> BrianH: Ive never had to install drivers for them before. How would i go about that?
[21:40] <dominique> hi
[21:40] <dominique> Is this a german channel?
[21:40] <Makuseru> dominique: !de
[21:41] <dominique> Makuseru: What do you mean with "!de"?
[21:41] <BrianH> Makuseru, dunno, last time I had to mess around with sound drivers, ALSA drove me up a wall
[21:41] <Makuseru> dominique: ubotu should have brought up a link to a german room
[21:42] <Makuseru> dominique: #kubuntu-de
[21:42] <dominique> Thx, unfortunately my kubuntu didnt. But thank you :)
[21:45] <dominique> Seems there's noone in #k-de who can help me, so i'll ask here... Which file do i have to edit if I want to prevent kde/x from restoring all programms after a reboot? (intrepid ibex)
[21:52] <bjorn> hi, i need a good backup solution, probably should burn to both dvd / cd and an external driver. Is there any good programs that simplyfies this?
[21:52] <hyper_ch> bjorn: why not an external harddisk and using rsync?
[21:53] <denis__> !de
[21:53] <bjorn> rsync. maybe. what does rsync do?
[21:53] <Nomexous> dominique: Settings > Advanced tab > Session manager
[21:53] <hyper_ch> bjorn: rsync is a sync tool
[21:53] <Nomexous> dominique: Select "Start with an empty session" in the "On login" box
[21:53] <hyper_ch> bjorn: you can sync either locally or onto a remote location over ssh
[21:54] <dominique> Thank you Nomexous! Found the setting and changed it! But you don't know which file is edited by the session manager?
[21:54] <Nomexous> dominique: No, sorry.
[21:55] <ye||ow> somone knows this error?  plasma[4963]: segfault at 3b ip b7da8e95 sp bfa7ffb0 error 4 in libplasma.so.3.0.0[b7d12000+1c0000]
[21:56] <bjorn> hyper_ch, does this mean that only changes are copied?
[21:56] <hyper_ch> bjorn: yes
[21:57] <bjorn> hyper_ch, sounds neat.
[21:57] <BrianH> what the heck . . . why do I see double of every service being loaded?
[21:57] <hyper_ch> basic usage:   rsync -someOption /from /to
[21:57] <Nomexous> bjorn: Just make sure to use 'rsync -P' to see a progress bar... otherwise it'll look like nothing's happening
[22:03] <Makuseru> Hi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?
[22:05] <WIZARDSLOVAK> hello my linux friends
[22:06] <SiVA__> hi
[22:07] <mm__> I want the proxy
[22:07] <SiVA__> so... I find kubuntu 8.10 a bit unstable at times. I'd like to install xfce for those times when I'm programming or playing games
[22:08] <SiVA__> can I do that but still easily switch between both window managers?
[22:09] <JontheEchidna> SiVA__: yes, you can choose session type from the login screen
[22:09] <SiVA__> ok... how would I install xfce then?
[22:11] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i hate windows
[22:11] <WIZARDSLOVAK> especially viruses
[22:12] <dominique> it's got to be dark at yours...
[22:13] <Ahmuck> kubuntu is crashing on me when i attempt to access the display
[22:13] <dominique> Does anyone know what to do if my clocksource is unstable (according to the boot log)?
[22:13] <Ahmuck> crashing as in hard lock up
[22:13] <Ahmuck> locks up the entire machine.  i can't even get a terminal
[22:15] <dominique> Ahmuck: tried to access the terminal through Alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2/F3/..?
[22:16] <Adola> Hello.  I'm having a problem.  I've just installed Cmake to install something.  And i got this error.
[22:16] <Adola> CMake Error at cmake/modules/FindOpenSSL.cmake:58 (MESSAGE):
[22:16] <Adola>   Could NOT find OpenSSL
[22:16] <Adola> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[22:16] <Adola>   CMakeLists.txt:6 (find_package)
[22:16] <ulysses__> build-essential, libplasma-dev, kdelibs5-dev is installed?
[22:17] <Adola> I don't know.
[22:17] <Ahmuck> dominique: yep
[22:17] <Adola> Oh, you weren't talking to me.
[22:20] <dominique> Ahmuck: Sounds bad. I would say you reboot the system and do not start x (not log in with kde). then have a look a the config file ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc and disable some plugins especially the desktop effects
[22:21] <Makuseru> Hi, i seem to be having an audio problem. I cannot get any sort of audio, when ever i play something in Amarok all the meters and everything move like the song is suppose to be playing, yet i dont hear anything. Anyone know what would cause this?
[22:21] <david_> Makuseru: open alsamixer check all the volumes are turned up to max
[22:21] <david_> and not muted
[22:22] <Makuseru> david_: Tried that,
[22:22] <david_> Phonon (amarok 2) doesn't output as PCM (normal wave output channel) for some special reason
[22:22] <david_> we are talking about Amarok 2 right?
[22:22] <Makuseru> You're talking to me?
[22:22] <david_> yeah
[22:23] <Makuseru> I was just using amarok as an example. I get no sound in any program.
[22:23] <david_> Makuseru: *yes.
[22:23] <david_> oh
[22:23] <david_> that's a different issue
[22:24] <ubuntu> m
[22:24] <dominique> Makuseru: If you know which sound device you got try and find a driver for linux via google, maybe your linux doesn't know that there is something to make noise.
[22:24] <Makuseru> I found my device,
[22:25] <Makuseru> Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371
[22:27] <dominique> And linux knows it as this device?
[22:28] <BluesKaj> ahh similar to mine Makuseru, aka soundblaster
[22:28] <gmarzioz> hi
[22:29] <gmarzioz> someone use gpsd and bluetooth??
[22:29] <Makuseru> dominique: yes, it recognizes it']
[22:31] <blueyed> How do you restart the panel in KDE 4.2? (Jaunty)
[22:31] <Ahmuck> install 8.04.1
[22:31] <blueyed> ah.. killall plasma && plasma &
[22:32] <dominique> Makuseru: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=%22Ensoniq+AudioPCI+ENS1371%22+ubuntu
[22:33] <dominique> read something about alsaconf
[22:36] <Adola> Hello, Cmake gives an error that OpenSSL isn't installed, but as far as I can tell.  It is.
[22:38] <Makuseru> dominique: there wasnt anything on the five pages of results about alsaconf
[22:42] <dominique> Makuseru: what does: sudo modprobe es1371
[22:42] <dominique> ?
[22:43] <Makuseru> FATAL: Module es1371 not found.
[22:49] <PSiL0> hmm ubuntu forums are down
[22:49] <dominique> Makuseru: If you start some sound prog as root, does the soudn work then?
[22:49] <PSiL0> I'm looking for a way or implementation that would make firefox and banshee play nice
[22:49] <PSiL0> play nice with each other
[22:51] <PSiL0> the answer is in the forums, but alas google cache didn't bring up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=945303
[22:53] <PSiL0> !alsa
[22:55] <rgtr> hello
[22:58] <BillieTheKiddie> hello
[23:00] <john__> hi, I have no sound with 8.10, can anyone help? I've checked the mixer and it's not muted or smth
[23:00] <PSiL0> !sound | john_
[23:01] <john__> ok but I have gnome :D
[23:01] <PSiL0> !mp3 | john_
[23:02] <john__> no problem with the mp3s, the soundcard only problems
[23:02] <DasEI> john__: alsamixer installed ?
[23:03] <john__> sure
[23:03] <john__> it says HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
[23:03] <DasEI> card correctly shown up ?
[23:03] <john__> yes
[23:04] <DasEI> if use amarok (to have a virtual control of play) , see the animation ?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:04] <john__> DasEI, can see the animation, but can't hear the sound
[23:04] <DasEI> pcm risen ?, john__
[23:04] <john__> excuse me?What's that?
[23:05] <DasEI> john__:a slider of alsamixer
[23:05] <john__> one moment to see
[23:06] <john__> it says
[23:06] <DasEI> john__:though you said, speaker icons have to be green (mute)
[23:06] <john__> ALSA PCM on front0 (ALC663 Analog) via DMA Pulse Audio Mixer). It's not muted
[23:06] <DasEI> try to switch it to alsa
[23:07] <john__> how?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> i'll ask in here too for completeness:
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> In ubuntu (or any OS for any fact) that will simulate a cisco switch and give a CLI interface to some software based virtual switch so I can practice for my CCNA?
[23:07] <DasEI> programms > system > preferences > sound
[23:08] <john__> ActionParsnip, use Wine with Cisco simulator
[23:08] <rickest> ActionParsnip: dynamips
[23:08] <john__> DasEI lemme see the thing, I use Gnome
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> ooh i'll check those out guys
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> awesome
[23:10] <john__> DasEl, no results
[23:10] <john__> selected ALSA from the Sound Preferences
[23:11] <DasEI> john__: is there more then one s-card ?
[23:11] <john__> there shouldn't be, I use a laptop
[23:12] <john__> lspci |grep -i audio
[23:12] <john__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[23:12] <john__> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Dynamips looks awesome rickest, sweet move
[23:14] <john__> what should I do next, DasEI ?
[23:15] <sle> !internet
[23:16] <sle> !video
[23:17] <sle> !compile
[23:17] <DasEI> john__:hard to say, maybe take a look in /var/log/syslog, else I'd poke around, as the driver semms to be installed correctly (and I don't think you missed the jack or have the amp down)
[23:19] <john__> it's a laptop, and has the build in speakers
[23:19] <DasEI> john__:system sounds ?
[23:19] <john__> can't hear them
[23:20] <DasEI> sudo apt-get install beep
[23:20] <DasEI> beep 50
[23:21] <john__> heard nothing
[23:21] <john__> no beep from the speakers
[23:22] <DasEI> hm, I'm not too familiar with kernel-internals, fo me a recompiling of alsa worked, what's the speed and ram of lappy ?
[23:22] <dr_willis> beep 50 dont make any noise here eitehr. :)
[23:23] <john__> it's a dual core @ 2.3 and 4G of RAM
[23:23] <DasEI> john__:might take 10 min, want to try ?
[23:24] <john__> course!
[23:24] <DasEI> john__:sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[23:25] <DasEI> sudo m-a update
[23:25] <DasEI> sudo m-a prepare
[23:25] <DasEI> sudo m-a a-i alsa
[23:26] <john__> m-a a-i alsa -> in progress
[23:27] <john__> build of pack failed View COntinue Stop?
[23:28] <DasEI> try cont
[23:29] <john__> Extracting the package tarball, /usr/src/alsa-driver.tar.bz2, please wait...
[23:29] <john__> "/usr/share/modass/packages/default.sh" build KVERS=2.6.27-9-generic KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-9-generic KDREV=2.6.27-9.19 kdist_image
[23:30] <john__> now?:)
[23:30] <fla> ttt
[23:31] <DasEI> john__: : through / running / error ?
[23:31] <john__> i've selected continue and that's the output
[23:32] <DasEI> you're back on cmd-line prompt then
[23:32] <john__> yes
[23:33] <DasEI> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[23:33] <john__> tried
[23:33] <john__> no sound
[23:36] <DasEI> did you get an ok after restarting alsa ?
[23:36] <john__> yes, it was started successfuly
[23:36] <DasEI> hrmm
[23:37] <john__> have no idea of what to do next
[23:37] <DasEI> might try : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:37] <DasEI> sudo m-a a-i alsa
[23:38] <DasEI> ^to see if build fails again
[23:39] <john__> failed again
[23:39] <john__> make -C ioctl32 mrproper                                                   ▒
[23:39] <john__>                                        │ make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/ioctl32'   ▒
[23:39] <john__>                                        │ rm -f .depend *.[oas] *.ko .*.cmd .*.tmp *.mod.c *.isapnp                  ↓
[23:39] <john__> srry for the flood
[23:40] <carl_> hi
[23:41] <carl_> anyone?
[23:41] <DasEI> john__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade                      <no errors ?
[23:42] <john__> hi carl
[23:42] <DasEI> !hi
[23:42] <john__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. # No errors
[23:43] <DasEI> john__: seems sth real easy, so we can't find it---
[23:43] <DasEI> does sound on live work ?
[23:49] <DasEI> ?
[23:50] <john__> sorry DasEl
[23:50] <john__> my wife got in the room. is one of the moments i understand hans reiser's decision :D
[23:50] <john__> I don't get it, I don't get what the real problem is...
[23:51] <DasEI> np, so back to the worth, lol
[23:51] <john__> :))
[23:51] <john__> so the driver is installed, then...what can the problem be?
[23:51] <DasEI> the error message of the build was (last 2 lines) ?
[23:52] <john__> unpack
[23:52] <john__> Extracting the package tarball, /usr/src/alsa-driver.tar.bz2, please wait...
[23:52] <john__> "/usr/share/modass/packages/default.sh" build KVERS=2.6.27-9-generic KSRC=/usr/src/linux KDREV=2.6.27-9.19 kdist_image
[23:53] <DasEI> for some reason alsa borks there, try a third and use review to figure out
[23:53] <ubuntu> i need help im trying to delete partitions using qtparted but it says theyre mounted...........konsole says they arent
[23:53] <DasEI> ubuntu:run from live
[23:54] <ubuntu> i am
[23:54] <john__> huh?
[23:54] <DasEI> sudo m-a a-i alsa
[23:54] <DasEI>  View COntinue Stop  > view
[23:55] <DasEI> ubuntu: mount tells you ?
[23:55] <ubuntu> mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /media/fk busy
[23:56] <dvheumen> I don't want to seem impatient, but is the uploading of KDE 4.2 RC2 packages still ongoing, or is it already done completely?
[23:56] <DasEI> ubuntu:if you just type mount without anything, you see all mounted devices
[23:56] <al3x-admin> dvheumen: RC2 ?
[23:56] <dvheumen> sorry, RC1 :P
[23:57] <JontheEchidna> it's ongoing, should be done in a bit
[23:57] <ubuntu> . /dev/sda isnt listed
[23:57] <al3x-admin> dvheumen: I just upgraded to RC1, restarted and it crashes plasma
[23:57] <al3x-admin> I mean...plasma just wont start
[23:57] <dvheumen> al3x-admin: yeah me too
[23:57] <al3x-admin> why's that ? :S
[23:57] <dvheumen> but the directory listing says that the kdeplasma-addons aren't updated yet
[23:58] <DasEI> ubuntu:in gparted, right click > unmount   no chance ?
[23:58] <dvheumen> those are still 4.1.85
[23:58] <al3x-admin> ouch... so...I just have to wait some more minutes and dist-upgrade once more ?
[23:58] <dvheumen> yeah, probably
[23:58] <al3x-admin> Ok, thanks =)
[23:58] <ubuntu> its greyed
[23:58] <john__> DasEI
[23:58] <dvheumen> al3x-admin: I looked here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/pool/main/k/ and it shows that only the first couple of directories have been updated
[23:58] <john__> make -C ioctl32 mrproper                                                   ▒
[23:58] <john__> │ make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/ioctl32'   ▒
[23:58] <john__> │ rm -f .depend *.[oas] *.ko .*.cmd .*.tmp *.mod.c *.isapnp                  ↓