| Andre_Gondim | why jaunty don't come with openoffice 3? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| Melik | Andre_Gondim, it does | 00:07 |
| Andre_Gondim | my apport had error and don't send bug to launchpad...., the error is "urlopen error The write operation timed out" | 02:26 |
| toresbe | Hey, I'm not the only one without X, I hope? | 03:46 |
| toresbe | (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0) | 03:47 |
| toresbe | Same for "freetype" and "nvidia" | 03:47 |
| RAOF | toresbe: X works fine here. | 03:52 |
| fosco_ | change "nvidia" driver with "nv" or "vesa" and retry | 03:52 |
| toresbe | Oh dear. I found the problem. | 03:52 |
| toresbe | Yeah, I did some happy --force-all to install two nvidia modules and it is all good now. | 03:52 |
| toresbe | nvidia-glx-(...) conflicts with xserver-xorg-core... | 03:54 |
| toresbe | and a bunch of other really rather necessary stuff | 03:54 |
| fosco_ | as far as i know nvidia restricted drivers are not supported yet | 03:54 |
| RAOF | The new version of the nvidia drivers that actually supports our X server is currently sitting in the NEW queue | 03:55 |
| toresbe | aha... | 04:02 |
| toresbe | ok, switching to nv | 04:02 |
| toresbe | (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) | 04:02 |
| toresbe | (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Microsoft Natural? Ergonomic Keyboard 4000" | 04:02 |
| toresbe | reboot? | 04:02 |
| RAOF | Maybe? | 04:03 |
| toresbe | Hrmh, that worked. | 04:08 |
| toresbe | WHOA. gnome-terminal launch is an order of magnitude faster. Love! | 04:08 |
| toresbe | But my dual-screen is, er, all funny. | 04:08 |
| toresbe | I suppose this will have to do until it comes out of NEW. | 04:14 |
| toresbe | I assume there's no way for me to grab packages from NEW? | 04:14 |
| RAOF | You can just grab them from launchpad; they're in launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue | 04:15 |
| toresbe | Oh, found it! Thanks! | 04:15 |
| toresbe | lessee if this works. | 04:17 |
| toresbe | Hrm, this is... less than stable :) | 04:23 |
| toresbe | and image corruption ahoy | 04:23 |
| toresbe | 180.22 really isn't built for this ABI, either :) | 04:23 |
| toresbe | Graphics are frighteningly fast in comparison, though | 04:27 |
| toresbe | The system is drastically snappier. I like this! | 04:27 |
| toresbe | Good night. | 04:27 |
| Hotshot` | does anyobody use Deluge Torrent client? | 04:31 |
| johnwedd | hello | 07:45 |
| johnwedd | whats the good word on jaunty | 07:45 |
| BHSPitLappy | ? | 07:47 |
| johnwedd | most of my professional life is spent waiting for a linux i can replace Windows with, Ubuntu has let me down, i was wondering, how jaunty was coming along | 07:49 |
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| fosco_ | johnwedd: waht are you looking for | 08:51 |
| johnwedd | just how its going | 08:52 |
| fosco_ | going good, but jaunty is not a revolution in any way | 08:53 |
| johnwedd | fosco_ i am curious, how come linux avoids anything similar to microsoft design philosophy | 09:11 |
| johnwedd | ? | 09:11 |
| fosco_ | don't understand | 09:11 |
| johnwedd | well, strickly from a astectic and widget design aspect, ubuntu, opensuse, and fedora tend to lean toward Apple concepts, and avoiding anything remotely microsoft in look and feel | 09:14 |
| Melik | apple concepts? | 09:14 |
| Melik | like what? | 09:14 |
| fosco_ | no | 09:14 |
| fosco_ | linux distributions tend to be linux distributionsany good ideas from any OS are wellcome | 09:15 |
| fosco_ | linux distributions tend to be linux distributions. any good ideas from any OS are wellcome | 09:15 |
| Melik | well apple os x and linux's are obviously going to be more similar because they are from the unix family | 09:16 |
| johnwedd | i mean in a design aspect | 09:16 |
| Melik | how is it similar to apple to apple in design? | 09:17 |
| johnwedd | look and feel | 09:17 |
| johnwedd | feels like linux, looks like mac | 09:17 |
| TheInfinity | you never used a mac, hmm ;) | 09:18 |
| johnwedd | yes | 09:18 |
| fosco_ | don't think so :-/ | 09:19 |
| fosco_ | linux looks just as linux | 09:19 |
| TheInfinity | fosco_: although sometimes gnome or kde sometimes really loves to steal gui concepts from apple ;) | 09:20 |
| fosco_ | well, this is common | 09:20 |
| TheInfinity | the best example is the advanced network gui in gnome. its 1:1 apple. in every button, every tab, everything | 09:21 |
| fosco_ | i use openbox as a window manager, don't think win nor mac have something like that :-) | 09:21 |
| * RAOF wonders whether TheInfinity is looking at the same network-manager/OS X that he is. | 09:22 | |
| Melik | openbox is very nice | 09:22 |
| TheInfinity | not network manager | 09:22 |
| TheInfinity | the thing where you have a gui for nmap and several other things | 09:22 |
| TheInfinity | dont know the name in gnome | 09:22 |
| RAOF | Oh, the network tools thingy? | 09:23 |
| Melik | anyone know a good SSH client? | 09:23 |
| RAOF | Melik: ssh? | 09:23 |
| fosco_ | ssh | 09:23 |
| RAOF | As installed by default in Ubuntu? | 09:23 |
| Melik | yea | 09:23 |
| RAOF | Yes. "ssh" is the good SSH client. | 09:24 |
| Melik | [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxY] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec] | 09:24 |
| Melik | [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile] | 09:24 |
| Melik | [-i identity_file] [-L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] | 09:24 |
| Melik | [-l login_name] [-m mac_spec] [-O ctl_cmd] [-o option] [-p port] | 09:24 |
| Melik | [-R [bind_address:]port:host:hostport] [-S ctl_path] | 09:24 |
| Melik | [-w local_tun[:remote_tun]] [user@]hostname [command] | 09:24 |
| Melik | so which one do i use to connect :/ | 09:24 |
| TheInfinity | Melik: man ssh :) | 09:24 |
| BUGabundo_work | just a quick question: does the new dailies that suport ext4, need /boot on ext2/3 or it can be on ext4 too ? | 09:24 |
| RAOF | Boot can be ext4; both grub and grub2 support it. | 09:25 |
| johnwedd | i guess i see mac as considering customers as stupid, and linux as considering its customers engineers, and windows seams to be the only happy medium. and thats not right | 09:25 |
| BUGabundo_work | thanks RAOF | 09:25 |
| johnwedd | understand what i'm saying | 09:29 |
| fosco_ | johnwedd: yes i understand, but don't think the same | 09:29 |
| johnwedd | how much time do you think the average linux user spends just getting his system to work? | 09:31 |
| Melik | i got my ubuntu system to work in 1 second | 09:32 |
| johnwedd | Melik: how many times have you reconfigured and recompiled? | 09:33 |
| fosco_ | johnwedd: about 20 minutes, installation time | 09:33 |
| johnwedd | i mean fully work | 09:33 |
| Melik | yeah fully work 1 second | 09:33 |
| fosco_ | system is fully functional once installed | 09:34 |
| Melik | customizing and configuring is a different story | 09:34 |
| johnwedd | thats part of makeing a computer system | 09:34 |
| johnwedd | work | 09:34 |
| fosco_ | not for me | 09:35 |
| johnwedd | oooh? | 09:35 |
| johnwedd | and you do what for a living? | 09:35 |
| Melik | i inhale O2 | 09:36 |
| fosco_ | :-? | 09:37 |
| fosco_ | are you trying to flame johnwedd? | 09:37 |
| johnwedd | no | 09:37 |
| fosco_ | then i don not understand you | 09:37 |
| johnwedd | i trying to point out the end users need to be learn a new system without haveing system shock | 09:38 |
| fosco_ | i spend much more time setting up a windows machine than a ubuntu box | 09:38 |
| TheInfinity | fosco_: always depends on what you need. | 09:39 |
| fosco_ | of course :) | 09:39 |
| johnwedd | i guess i really hate how linux makes you work your computer | 09:40 |
| Melik | no it doesnt | 09:40 |
| Melik | i spent more time | 09:40 |
| Melik | formatting my windows | 09:40 |
| Melik | than "configuring" my ubuntu | 09:41 |
| Melik | ive probably formatted windows like over 200 times | 09:41 |
| TheInfinity | Melik: if you know what you do you dont have to format windows all the time. | 09:41 |
| johnwedd | then why do i still have to dive into bash to get it to do something i want that i can do in windows in three mouse clicks | 09:42 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: depends what you need and which hardware you use :p | 09:42 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: cli can me much faster then gui | 09:42 |
| johnwedd | doesn't mean its easier, better, fun or not stressfull | 09:42 |
| TheInfinity | easier if you learn it one time | 09:43 |
| johnwedd | i shouldn't have to | 09:43 |
| TheInfinity | as i said - depends on your needs | 09:43 |
| TheInfinity | i'm a mac os-x user, and i can do almost everything with gui. but i have always a terminal open because its just faster and beter. | 09:43 |
| johnwedd | i'm a graphic artist | 09:44 |
| TheInfinity | other mac user dont like cli. | 09:44 |
| TheInfinity | me too. | 09:44 |
| Melik | TheInfinity, i pirated software; so i got lots of malware through them and stuff | 09:44 |
| TheInfinity | Melik: so dont do so :) | 09:45 |
| johnwedd | or rather, I'm a graphic artist, and i think FOSS zealots have there head up there ass | 09:45 |
| Melik | thats why i use linux now TheInfinity :) | 09:45 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: you can use lots of open source software for graphics. | 09:47 |
| TheInfinity | and ubuntus aim is to provide a cli free os. although its difficult to archive this. | 09:48 |
| Melik | <johnwedd> then why do i still have to dive into bash to get it to do something i want that i can do in windows in three mouse clicks | 09:48 |
| TheInfinity | (and we are in an alpha channel :p ) | 09:48 |
| Melik | there were numerous times i had to go to windows registry | 09:48 |
| Melik | so windows isn't all that "user friendly" either | 09:49 |
| johnwedd | TheInfinity: not the point, i love, OS, i hate zealots that have no understanding of the market ecosystem that motivates there innovations, with irrational hate for anything ressembling corporate structure. | 09:49 |
| TheInfinity | Melik: for user who just want msn and ms office it is ;) | 09:49 |
| johnwedd | Melik: yes it is | 09:49 |
| x1250 | hey guys, completely offtopic, but they are good tutorials, so here it is: video tutoriales for the GIMP, excellent ones: http://meetthegimp.org/page/21/ | 09:50 |
| Melik | it just seems user friendly, because thats what you grew up with | 09:50 |
| johnwedd | i still don't have to use a cli | 09:50 |
| Melik | you've been all around it, you're used to it | 09:50 |
| johnwedd | i grew up on prodos and bsd | 09:50 |
| johnwedd | i paid my dues | 09:50 |
| Melik | ah | 09:50 |
| Melik | i dont know.. but the most confusing thing to me was windows registry | 09:51 |
| johnwedd | its settings | 09:51 |
| johnwedd | organized | 09:51 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: not really *g* | 09:51 |
| johnwedd | kinda sorta is | 09:52 |
| Melik | i think the registry was the most unorganized thing ever | 09:52 |
| Melik | + once u remove software.. values get left behind | 09:52 |
| johnwedd | whats the equivilent to it in Linux? | 09:52 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: /etc | 09:52 |
| johnwedd | or Mac? | 09:52 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: /Libary | 09:53 |
| johnwedd | and you still have to do the same stuff | 09:53 |
| Melik | IMO linux's "config" system is a lot neater and much more organized | 09:54 |
| johnwedd | can i use it with a mouse and does it have automated features that make sure i don't screw it up? | 09:55 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: most win apps use it wrong. the concept of registry is not that bad. | 09:55 |
| johnwedd | kinda makes you wonder how it entered into the conversation :S | 09:56 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: you also dont use registry with mouse. and you can make MUCH worse things in registry | 09:56 |
| TheInfinity | much *bad | 09:57 |
| johnwedd | same in library | 09:57 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: i dont know any osx app which needs root rights just because its bad coded :p | 09:58 |
| johnwedd | i'm surprised it would even let a user to the root | 09:59 |
| TheInfinity | sudo su | 09:59 |
| TheInfinity | and you have a root bash :p | 09:59 |
| johnwedd | yay! now what? | 10:00 |
| TheInfinity | you can do anything you want then | 10:00 |
| TheInfinity | like in ubuntu. or in windows using runas in terminal | 10:01 |
| johnwedd | i can change hardware settings! oooh, wait. I can optimize the services for better running or boot time!......ummm no. k | 10:01 |
| johnwedd | ooooh, i know, i can shut down the unneeded gui and interface elements to play my games! ooh, yeah... o.O | 10:02 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: at os-x? of course i can modifiy boot settings. | 10:03 |
| johnwedd | can you turn off the gui and replace it? | 10:03 |
| TheInfinity | johnwedd: you can use gnome with xorg if you want | 10:04 |
| TheInfinity | kde also works afaik | 10:04 |
| johnwedd | i don't, i want the same gui, only complete customized, same back end tho | 10:05 |
| TheInfinity | why? i mean you wanted something completely different :p | 10:06 |
| johnwedd | only looks different | 10:06 |
| johnwedd | if it acts different, it'll throw me off | 10:07 |
| TheInfinity | then you should use the os you ever used | 10:07 |
| johnwedd | DOS? | 10:08 |
| TheInfinity | if you want? | 10:08 |
| johnwedd | i don't | 10:08 |
| TheInfinity | then you have to learn ;) | 10:08 |
| Melik | are we talking about osx or ubuntu? | 10:08 |
| johnwedd | i lost track | 10:09 |
| TheInfinity | Melik: os-x for a few lines ;) | 10:09 |
| ikonia | please keep in mind this channel is for Jaunty discussion only | 10:09 |
| Melik | anywyas | 10:09 |
| johnwedd | i was bored | 10:10 |
| TheInfinity | ikonia: i just wondered when this messages comes ;) ... sorry lecture in university is atm boring and too easy :p | 10:10 |
| Melik | does anyone get a ../udev/rules.d error | 10:10 |
| Melik | at startup? | 10:10 |
| ikonia | no sweat, just a nudge | 10:10 |
| ikonia | Melik: in the current jaunty build ? | 10:10 |
| Melik | yes ikonia | 10:11 |
| ikonia | Melik: all good here | 10:11 |
| ikonia | Melik: what rule is it complaining about | 10:11 |
| Melik | the whole rules.d is missing or something | 10:11 |
| ikonia | I've got mine | 10:11 |
| Melik | i can reboot and write it down | 10:11 |
| johnwedd | impatient for the ubuntu that will decend from the heavens, runs all the software i need and want (both open and closed) and cure 6 different types of cancer | 10:11 |
| ikonia | johnwedd: what ? | 10:11 |
| johnwedd | unrelated | 10:12 |
| ikonia | johnwedd: check the /topic please | 10:12 |
| Melik | hold on im going to restart and write down the udev erro | 10:13 |
| Melik | error* | 10:13 |
| ikonia | Melik: cool | 10:13 |
| johnwedd | ikonia: topic noted and we where discussing design philosophies | 10:14 |
| ikonia | johnwedd: which is not for here, thanks | 10:14 |
| ikonia | Melik: hit me | 10:14 |
| Melik | [udev840] then blah blah blah ... /etc/udev/rules.d file not found or missing | 10:15 |
| Melik | thing is i do have ../rules.d | 10:16 |
| ikonia | Melik: do you have /etc/udev/rules.d though | 10:19 |
| ikonia | Melik: that should be a dir | 10:19 |
| Melik | yeah | 10:19 |
| Melik | its a folder | 10:19 |
| Melik | directory* w.e | 10:20 |
| Melik | hold on | 10:20 |
| Melik | actuall | 10:20 |
| Melik | actually* im going to call it a night | 10:20 |
| Melik | its 2 AM :$ | 10:20 |
| Melik | good night guys | 10:20 |
| RAOF | Note that /etc/udev/rules.d is not the place it used to be. | 10:21 |
| x1250 | at last pulseaudio is working nicely here. Sound artifacts are gone. | 10:59 |
| cumulus007 | is it true there are 4.2 rc1 packages in jaunty? | 11:03 |
| * BUGabundo_work vents: uff what a long backlog! | 11:07 | |
| BUGabundo_work | x1250: don't you miss the old volume control ? | 11:07 |
| BUGabundo_work | I know I do! | 11:07 |
| BUGabundo_work | I find myself starting alsamixer[gui] -c 0 | 11:07 |
| x1250 | BUGabundo_work, I use almixer -c 0 too :S | 11:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | its the only way I know of setting the controls!! | 11:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | it was a shock to me, when I found out it was gone! | 11:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | is it going to be implemented in any other way before launch? | 11:09 |
| cumulus007 | is it true that there are 4.2 rc1 packages in jaunty? | 11:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | or is THIS it? | 11:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | new user will find them self lost, and old users will bash foruns about it! | 11:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | cumulus007: package?? | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo_work | I can check from my archive | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo_work | or you can see in packages.u.c or LP/u/+source/PACKAGE | 11:10 |
| cumulus007 | BUGabundo_work: I heard KDE 4.2 RC1 is in Jaunty | 11:10 |
| BUGabundo_work | not yet AFAIK | 11:11 |
| BUGabundo_work | I think im still in beta 2 or 3 | 11:11 |
| cumulus007 | okay, pity | 11:11 |
| BUGabundo_work | LOLOLOLOL I got to REBOOT blue thingys on my jaunty! come on!! one isn't enough? | 11:12 |
| BUGabundo_work | I would file a bug, but I have no idea on the package!! | 11:12 |
| BUGabundo_work | ehehe UM maybe? | 11:12 |
| x1250 | BUGabundo_work, I guess this is it :(. I use alsamixer to adjust the LFE, which the great new pulseaudio volume control, can't. Wow. | 11:12 |
| BUGabundo_work | I realy like the control over ANY app! much nicer! | 11:13 |
| BUGabundo_work | still a bit too hiden, requires many clicks! | 11:13 |
| BUGabundo_work | I thought it would get a dropdown under under the clock | 11:14 |
| x1250 | BUGabundo_work, there are a lot of people who don't want to use pulseaudio, is there no other volume control for gnome-panel???? | 11:16 |
| BUGabundo_work | seems not | 11:17 |
| peterz | kde4.1.96 packages seem incomplete and the combination of .85 and .96 seem to no fancy working well | 11:40 |
| BUGabundo_work | anyone has any idea what starts cam-server? | 11:45 |
| BUGabundo_work | its not on my init.d/rc** | 11:45 |
| BUGabundo_work | did something break python today??? | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | deluge won't start the GUI | 11:57 |
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| BUGabundo_work | need a tip: what is the proper command to make a full DISK backup? dd to a targz file on a external disk? | 12:16 |
| toresbe | Hrm. | 14:27 |
| toresbe | I've got the newest version of nvidia-glx-180, but it's still "ABI incompatible" | 14:28 |
| toresbe | Am I doing something wrong? | 14:28 |
| TheInfinity | toresbe: you try to use nvidia css drivers with jaunty's xorg? | 14:29 |
| toresbe | css drivers? | 14:29 |
| TheInfinity | closed source software | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | ahh | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | lol | 14:29 |
| toresbe | yeah | 14:29 |
| toresbe | hah, I have three mouse pointers on my desktop now :P | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo_work | toresbe: 3? | 14:32 |
| toresbe | yeah | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo_work | humm please confirm this to me! I'm using partimage from daily livecd to backup pc, before format to ext4. partimage, I guess uses ncursers, right? it seems to be leaving a trail of chars! I see stuff like 9secccc | 14:40 |
| fosco_ | toresbe: jaunty has no nvidia restricted drivers support yet | 14:47 |
| fosco_ | it is an X 1.6 issue | 14:47 |
| toresbe | fosco_: Do you have a link to some info on it? | 14:50 |
| toresbe | wiki, or something? | 14:50 |
| fosco_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/308410 | 14:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 308410 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "Latest Xorg removes nvidia driver ... conflicting xserver-xorg-video-4" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | fosco_ old bug | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | still around until upstream fix it! | 14:53 |
| fosco_ | old bug but still there :-/ | 14:54 |
| fosco_ | let's see if alpha3 solves it | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_work | you don't hope | 14:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | grrr partimage just makes a nasty image of the disc.... how do I mount it now?? | 14:57 |
| fasta | libnss3 is not being found by any at least two gnome applications (probably all). How can I fix that? | 16:49 |
| fasta | It is located in /usr/lib and I already tried adding it to the library path. | 16:50 |
| fasta | /usr/lib should be on the library path anyway, but that's a different discussion. | 16:50 |
| hggdh | fasta, since you moved to jaunty, or just after a dist-upgrade? | 16:55 |
| fasta | hggdh: after dist-upgrade, but I solved it already locally here by reinstalling the libraries. | 16:56 |
| fasta | hggdh: another few weird things (like a pcspeaker going off at boot time) also happened. | 16:56 |
| fasta | hggdh: I don't really want to run this bleeding edge stuff. | 16:57 |
| fasta | hggdh: I only wanted the recent nvidia driver and I just happened to install jaunty, because I figured it would support the latest hardware. | 16:57 |
| hggdh | fasta, bleeding edge, as the same suggests, usually makes us bleed... | 16:58 |
| hggdh | I suspect either you had an issue on dist-upgrade, or rebooting might solve (if some libraries were replaced) | 16:59 |
| fasta | hggdh: I still have a problem with Evolution. | 17:00 |
| fasta | hggdh: It's basically this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/310586 | 17:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 310586 in evolution "evolution startup hangs with assertion `E_IS_SEARCHING_TOKENIZER (st)' failed" [Medium,Incomplete] | 17:00 |
| hggdh | fasta, as I stated, after a major dist-upgrade, you may be better off rebooting | 17:04 |
| fasta | hggdh: that basically does an ldconfig, no? \ | 17:05 |
| hggdh | and replaces any in-use libraries with the newer version | 17:05 |
| hggdh | there may be ABI changes | 17:06 |
| fasta | Still, I rebooted a few times already. | 17:06 |
| hggdh | fasta, were you the reporter on the bug? | 17:06 |
| fasta | hggdh: no | 17:06 |
| hggdh | k | 17:06 |
| hggdh | for the bug... evo is at 2.24.2, but gtkhtml is at 2.25.3. I dimly remember some quite heavy changes in gtkhtml | 17:08 |
| wbonx | Hi all, I have a problem but is 'nt simple, so perhaps this is the right place were to ask | 17:14 |
| wbonx | I'm tryng to manage | 17:14 |
| wbonx | events creating a file in /etc/acpi/event | 17:15 |
| cecil | what happen to ubuntu forums ? been off for hours. | 17:15 |
| wbonx | the file is well formed but acpid doen't manage the action I wrote, only if I restart manually it with " acpid -d" it works | 17:15 |
| wbonx | so why acpi started via init.d script doen't manage the rule, and starting it with acpid -d works ? | 17:16 |
| wbonx | thank you everyone | 17:16 |
| Alexia_Death | When will xserver's 1.6 rc1 hit repros? | 17:38 |
| Alexia_Death | hmm, should ask this at ubuntu x instead | 17:39 |
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| Kuaera | "Break your system in bad ways" is accurate o_o; | 19:12 |
| TheInfinity | Kuaera: but sometimes the breakage has lots of style! :) | 19:14 |
| Kuaera | TheInfinity: Indeed! Having my windowmanager [openbox] lock up, consuming 99% of my CPU and refusing to die is awfully stylish :P | 19:20 |
| BotLobsta | is there an easy way to downgrade xserver-xorg and all of its dependencies to the previous version without specifying version numbers for each package? | 19:20 |
| BotLobsta | or does anyone know of a way to get the nvidia 180.22 driver working? | 19:29 |
| toresbe | if you find one lemme know... | 19:30 |
| fosco__ | no way BotLobsta | 19:34 |
| === dajhorn is now known as PushF12 | ||
| * toresbe wishes there was some web site detailing the reason why nvidia is brrroken | 19:40 | |
| BUGabundo1 | toresbe: not only nvidia | 19:40 |
| BUGabundo1 | amd and intel are the same | 19:40 |
| toresbe | BUGabundo1: I'd assume. | 19:41 |
| BotLobsta | the log file says its because of the driver ABI versions are different and that if you give the nvidia module the -ignoreABI option it might work | 19:41 |
| BotLobsta | i just have no idea where to pass it that | 19:41 |
| toresbe | I've passed that. X crashes pretty quickly, as I'd expect, really. | 19:42 |
| toresbe | I just want an nVidia that works with the current ABI! | 19:43 |
| === PushF12 is now known as dajhorn | ||
| BotLobsta | hmmm | 19:50 |
| BotLobsta | has anyone gotten their system back to a usable state after trying 180.22? | 19:50 |
| legodude__ | BotLobsta: nope :( | 20:04 |
| legodude__ | I can't even get 180.22 due to internet outage, but I have not heard anything good about it yet :( | 20:05 |
| BotLobsta | legodude__: there isnt anything good about it | 20:06 |
| BotLobsta | i wouldnt get it whenever you get your internet back | 20:06 |
| legodude__ | ugh | 20:07 |
| legodude__ | you've tried it? | 20:07 |
| legodude__ | I can't even get nv to do anything sane | 20:07 |
| BotLobsta | yea i tried it this morning | 20:07 |
| BotLobsta | and it didnt work | 20:07 |
| BotLobsta | and now im trying to get everything back to 180.11 but its still not working | 20:08 |
| legodude__ | ugh | 20:09 |
| legodude__ | does it install nicely for jaunty or do you have to fiddle with stuff? | 20:09 |
| BotLobsta | the nvidia-glx-180 package installs fine | 20:10 |
| BotLobsta | but you supposedly also need to upgrade to the latest xserver-xorg packages | 20:10 |
| legodude__ | alright | 20:10 |
| legodude__ | thanks | 20:10 |
| legodude__ | I'll poke at it | 20:10 |
| BotLobsta | good luck with it | 20:11 |
| bluesmoke | man, i totally killed my system :/ | 20:21 |
| bluesmoke | says it can't find things like libnss3.so.1d even though they are installed and I ran ldconfig | 20:21 |
| bluesmoke | libnss3.so.1d, libnssutil3.so.1d, libsmime3.so.1d, libssl3.so.1d, libplds4.so.1d libplc4.so.0d, and libnspr4.so.0d | 20:23 |
| bluesmoke | all are installed, ldd says they are not found | 20:23 |
| * bluesmoke tries to remove ia32-libs | 20:25 | |
| bluesmoke | nope, that didn't help | 20:25 |
| === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth | ||
| Amaranth | anyone know what could cause this? I'm at a bit of a loss | 20:27 |
| Amaranth | i'm guessing a broken binutils | 20:28 |
| BotLobsta | bad path? | 20:28 |
| Amaranth | ldconfig files the libraries just fine | 20:29 |
| Amaranth | err, finds | 20:29 |
| Amaranth | no other app will | 20:29 |
| BotLobsta | weird | 20:30 |
| Amaranth | $ sudo ldconfig -v | grep libnss3.so.1d | 20:32 |
| Amaranth | err | 20:32 |
| Amaranth | actually that doesn't show up in ldconfig output :/ | 20:32 |
| hggdh | Amaranth, someone complained of something similar earlier today | 20:39 |
| Amaranth | did they have a fix? :) | 20:39 |
| hggdh | they stated they reinstalled the packages | 20:40 |
| Amaranth | i can't even get online on my ubuntu machine right now, ndiswrapper and broadcom-wl seem to only respond to networkmanager, messing with iwconfig does nothing | 20:40 |
| hggdh | and that solved it... (and, I think, a reboot) | 20:40 |
| hggdh | <fasta> libnss3 is not being found by any at least two gnome applications (probably all). How can I fix that? | 20:40 |
| hggdh | <fasta> It is located in /usr/lib and I already tried adding it to the library path. | 20:40 |
| hggdh | <fasta> /usr/lib should be on the library path anyway, but that's a different discussion. | 20:40 |
| Amaranth | hey that did it | 20:41 |
| * Amaranth facepalms | 20:41 | |
| * hggdh thinks something went bonkers on the update | 20:41 | |
| Amaranth | thanks | 20:42 |
| hggdh | np | 20:43 |
| the_owl | hi, i just update my ubuntu to 9.04, but it has no sound, somebody else is the same? | 21:44 |
| === albert24 is now known as albert23 | ||
| * TheInfinity gibes the_owl an award for the best error description I ever heard | 21:58 | |
| the_owl | TheInfinity: what do you mean? | 22:10 |
| blueyed | Anybody using cryptsetup here? | 22:36 |
| RAOF | blueyed: And needing to manually luksOpen their root at a busybox prompt? | 22:39 |
| blueyed | RAOF: yes, with 2.4.28? - haven't tried manually opening it, still on 2.6.27 because of it. | 22:40 |
| RAOF | It's the fallout from watershed/udev changes; it's not the kernel, it's the initramfs changes. | 22:41 |
| blueyed | RAOF: bug 309205 | 22:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 309205 in linux "2.6.28: Keyboard not usable during boot (cryptsetup passphrase)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309205 | 22:41 |
| blueyed | RAOF: I've thought about initramfs, too.. but did not want to rebuild the initramfs for my working 2.6.27 kernel. | 22:41 |
| blueyed | RAOF: can you edit the bug accordingly, please? | 22:42 |
| RAOF | No, that would be a bad plan ;) | 22:42 |
| RAOF | Oh, my. That's not _my_ bug. | 22:42 |
| RAOF | I can boot just fine, I just need to manually open the crypt | 22:42 |
| blueyed | RAOF: ok. But you appear to know the root cause better than me.. | 22:43 |
| RAOF | Your problem isn't the same as mine; I don't think I have any idea of the root cause. | 22:43 |
| blueyed | you don't get the password prompt at all? | 22:43 |
| blueyed | What's the package for initramfs? initramfs-tools? or is it rather cryptsetup that provides them? | 22:44 |
| RAOF | I don't get the password prompt at all, until it drops to a busybox prompt. | 22:48 |
| blueyed | RAOF: are you using usplash? - I guess it'll drop to busybox here also, after a while? Is your /root encrypted? | 22:50 |
| RAOF | Yes, yes. | 22:51 |
| blueyed | strange. | 22:51 |
| blueyed | But some kind of confirmation than at least.. ;/ | 22:51 |
| Melik | hi everyone =) | 22:51 |
| timing | haha Jaunty is certainly not yet stable :-) | 22:56 |
| timing | it's doing weird things. bu i'm used to it with alfa versions of ubuntu | 22:56 |
| === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth | ||
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