| asac | hmm ... new linux-headers | 00:20 |
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| asac | does that mean there will be a new linux soon ;)? | 00:20 |
| fta | asac, http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/01/09/dell.notebooks.ces.2009/ | 00:34 |
| asac | nice | 00:52 |
| asac | fta: i see that xul is building. thanks | 00:54 |
| asac | maybe i can even test it before ending day ;) | 00:54 |
| LaserJock | was FF 2 removed in Intrepid? | 03:53 |
| [reed] | I hope so. | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | [reed]: I was actually hoping it wasn't | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | I wanted to test FF 2 to see if it had less CPU usage | 04:01 |
| [reed] | why not? Firefox 2 is being deprecated :) | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | well, my wife's laptop gets thrashed by FF 3 | 04:02 |
| [reed] | because of what exactly? | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | and I was reading that it was more IO bound because of sqlite | 04:02 |
| [reed] | yeah, probably | 04:02 |
| [reed] | if the kernel team would ever fix their fsync() bug | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | it uses 100% CPU all the time | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | I added 1GB of RAM thinking it was that but it's not | 04:02 |
| [reed] | you might try downloading Firefox 3.1 and testing it | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | it's an older laptop but it really didn't seem like it used to be *this* bad | 04:03 |
| asac | [reed]: its unlikely that fsync bug will ever get fixed for ext3 (though i dont even know a bug id to be honest) | 08:37 |
| asac | imo you should ask users to test a different file-system ... maybe ext4 is better? ;) | 08:38 |
| * asac still awake -> miracle ;) | 09:01 | |
| * asac gets coffee | 09:01 | |
| asac | fta: 316452 | 09:16 |
| asac | bug 316452 | 09:16 |
| asac | ;) | 09:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316452 in nss "[jaunty] last update broke some libraries (libnss3-1d, libnspr4-0d)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316452 | 09:16 |
| asac | there it is | 09:16 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: one question: what do you mean by "orthographic corrector"? | 09:18 |
| BUGabundo_work | eheh | 09:23 |
| BUGabundo_work | well the spell checker! | 09:23 |
| BUGabundo_work | I guess I used to much Portuguese on it | 09:23 |
| BUGabundo_work | :p | 09:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: ok ;) | 09:45 |
| BUGabundo_work | but do you now know what I meant, asac? | 10:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | was it your doing or was it in the spellchecker? | 10:53 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: no ;) ... i guess its probably spellcheker that got fixed/updated | 10:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | but FF was the only app that it didn't work with keyboard shortcut | 11:01 |
| BUGabundo_work | gwibber, kmail, OOo, etc all worked great! | 11:01 |
| asac | FF is still no real gnome app | 11:05 |
| BUGabundo_work | yeah | 11:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | nor is Kmail | 11:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | eheh | 11:08 |
| asac | fta: wtf ... someone edited whiteboard from ~mozillateam branch even though he is not a member of team? | 11:23 |
| asac | fta: ~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head | 11:23 |
| asac | not that i dont appreciate the content added there ... just feels like its a permission thing | 11:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo_work: i have no idea which keyboard shortcuts you are referring to ... are those standard bindings? | 11:23 |
| * asac reveals that he doesnt use spellchecker intensively | 11:24 | |
| BUGabundo_work | asac: the key between altgr and ctrl... the one that emulates mouse right click | 11:44 |
| armin76 | asac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qwerty.svg <- the "application key" | 13:13 |
| BUGabundo_work | yeah that's it, armin76 | 13:26 |
| fta2 | Jan 13 12:23:57 <asac> fta: wtf ... someone edited whiteboard from ~mozillateam branch even though he is not a member of team? | 13:40 |
| fta2 | asac, yep, i wondered too. it's not me for sure | 13:40 |
| fta2 | i don't see what has been changed. | 13:41 |
| fta2 | asac, who is that guy btw? | 13:41 |
| asac | no clue (TM) | 13:41 |
| asac | dont know him | 13:41 |
| asac | "someone" ;) | 13:41 |
| fta2 | https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek | 13:43 |
| fta2 | bugsquad? could they update our branches? | 13:44 |
| fta2 | i don"t see a diff in the email i got. the text looks like mine, maybe just the last line | 13:46 |
| asac | hmm | 13:50 |
| asac | NO CLUE (TM) | 13:50 |
| fta2 | ok, i'll ask on #lp | 13:52 |
| asac | thanks | 13:57 |
| fta2 | asac, read the answer :( | 14:00 |
| fta2 | asac, it's not possible to run epiphany over ssh ? | 14:04 |
| fta2 | damn | 14:04 |
| fta2 | dbus | 14:04 |
| asac | fta2: evo is worse | 14:05 |
| asac | fta2: epiphany at least runs in a chroot for me | 14:05 |
| asac | while evo just crashes | 14:05 |
| asac | fta2: cant you do a proper forward? | 14:05 |
| fta2 | i have a proper port forwarding | 14:06 |
| asac | for dbus? | 14:07 |
| fta2 | well, no, X11 | 14:07 |
| asac | not sure if one can forward unix sockets | 14:09 |
| asac | if so it should be doable | 14:09 |
| asac | otherwise wait for tcp dbus | 14:09 |
| asac | fta2: actually ... why wouldnt that work? | 14:10 |
| asac | i mean you run ephy on remote host ... on remote host there is dbus .. that should work | 14:11 |
| asac | it doesnt need to be forwarded to your system i guess | 14:11 |
| asac | maybe remote host doesnt have dbus running? | 14:11 |
| fta2 | ** (epiphany-browser:21819): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-LzZUiyhzkn: Connection refused | 14:17 |
| fta2 | asac, ^^ both sides have a desktop running so they both have dbus, it's a permission issue apparently | 14:34 |
| asac | fta2: i think its an env issue yeah | 14:44 |
| asac | fta2: ssh sets the dbus env ... to the file you have on your local system | 14:45 |
| asac | that file doesnt exist obviously | 14:45 |
| asac | what you probably need to do is to create a dbus session on the remote session after logging in and setting the env to the path created b taht | 14:45 |
| asac_ | another sad reconnect here | 17:38 |
| vadi2 | Hi. Does anyone have experience with the firefox code that interacts with networkmanager to see network status? | 17:40 |
| asac_ | vadi2: yes | 17:44 |
| asac_ | vadi2: whats your idea (i am almost out for a while though) | 17:44 |
| asac_ | ? | 17:44 |
| vadi2 | I need to ask network manager if the network is offline or no | 17:45 |
| vadi2 | But unable to find any good tutorials on this so far. | 17:45 |
| vadi2 | do you know anything that can help me started? | 17:45 |
| asac_ | vadi2: is that a general question or in firefox? | 17:46 |
| asac_ | in general its easy: just send a dbus message and you get the answer back | 17:46 |
| vadi2 | no, I just know that firefox does this. | 17:46 |
| vadi2 | well, tried - got access denied.. | 17:46 |
| asac_ | vadi2: did you try command line? | 17:47 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | e.g. dbus-send? | 17:47 |
| asac | vadi2: anyway ... have to run now. either wait a few hours; at best we can continue that in #nm channel (where others can help out too) | 17:47 |
| vadi2 | not yet | 17:47 |
| vadi2 | I will wait there | 17:48 |
| asac | good | 17:48 |
| asac | vadi2: please ping me in 3 hours or so ;) | 17:48 |
| asac | otherwise i might forget | 17:48 |
| vadi2 | OK | 17:48 |
| asac | cu | 17:48 |
| vadi2 | see you | 17:48 |
| fta | seems this guy likes backporting stuff. https://edge.launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive | 20:55 |
| fta | jcastro, gwibber has really troubles with "+". I had one in my password, nada. Alsa, when I paste a link with a "+", the shorted url resolves without the "+". | 21:07 |
| fta | jcastro, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/fennec/1.0~a2-0ubuntu1 gives me http://is.gd/fL38 which is "https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/ source/fennec/1.0~a2-0ubuntu1" (note the space instead of the plus) | 21:10 |
| fta | bad encoding | 21:11 |
| fta | s/really/real/; i should reread myself, especially when i type while talking one the phone | 21:13 |
| jcastro | fta: yeah it's a known bug | 21:15 |
| fta | jcastro, problems with backslash too. impossible to type \o/ | 21:15 |
| jcastro | yeah | 21:16 |
| fta | it shows o/ | 21:16 |
| jcastro | he just added moved his branch from personal to a small team | 21:16 |
| jcastro | so fixes should start going in much faster | 21:16 |
| fta | nice | 21:16 |
| jcastro | there are a bunch of fixes sitting around | 21:16 |
| Jazzva | does anyone here know how to contact aza raskin? I want to ask him about packaging ubiquity extension... | 22:20 |
| Jazzva | (well, it's packaged actually, I just need to finish copyright file) | 22:20 |
| asac | Jazzva: i already asked them i think | 23:12 |
| asac | Jazzva: at best file a bug if ubiquity has a bugzilla component | 23:13 |
| asac | refer to the fennec bug ... which is in progress | 23:13 |
| asac | Jazzva: mozilla bug 471474 | 23:13 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 471474 in General "fennec/mobile-browser hg tree lacks LICENSE file in top-level directory" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471474 | 23:13 |
| fta | asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/fennec/1.0~a2-0ubuntu1 | 23:21 |
| asac | fta: luck ;) | 23:22 |
| fta | hm, my ppa is full, once again | 23:24 |
| asac | let me check whether we have new nss/nspr transition bugs | 23:27 |
| Jazzva | asac: it's stated that it's under trilicense, I just need contact information for the copyright file, and to ask upstream if they're happy with us packaging their extension :) | 23:27 |
| Jazzva | off for a while... | 23:28 |
| fta | asac, hurry, alpha3 is frozen ;) | 23:28 |
| asac | fta: what is left to do for us? | 23:31 |
| asac | fta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21134289/var-log-apt-term.log | 23:31 |
| asac | somehow libnss was upgraded before libnspr? | 23:32 |
| asac | how can that be? | 23:32 |
| asac | did i mess up the build depends lower bounds or what? | 23:32 |
| asac | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libnspr4-0d (>= 4.7.3-0ubuntu1~), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9) | 23:33 |
| asac | thats ok | 23:33 |
| asac | (libnss3-1d) | 23:33 |
| fta | it looks like it's the postinst step | 23:33 |
| asac | fta: Log started : markers are for independent apt-get update runs | 23:34 |
| asac | look at the very bottom | 23:34 |
| asac | or isnt that true? | 23:34 |
| asac | e.g. one marker for each upgrade | 23:34 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/104596/ | 23:35 |
| asac | fta: well grep can be tricky | 23:36 |
| asac | look at the bottom of the log | 23:36 |
| asac | there it is | 23:36 |
| asac | hmm | 23:36 |
| asac | i see what you mean ;) | 23:36 |
| asac | anyway ... | 23:37 |
| fta | lol, grep is grep, it's not tricky, it gives you what you asked for | 23:37 |
| asac | no ... i thought you didnt look in the log at all ;) | 23:37 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/104598/ | 23:37 |
| fta | so he install --reinstall libnss3-1d | 23:38 |
| fta | and libnspr4-0d later on | 23:39 |
| asac | wh/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libplds4.so is not a symbolic link | 23:40 |
| asac | [1~[3~[3~ | 23:40 |
| asac | what sswatwhats the problem there? | 23:40 |
| asac | urgh ;;) | 23:41 |
| fta | are you trying to do some form of utf8 art ? | 23:42 |
| fta | my PPA now has 7G | 23:44 |
| asac | thats good | 23:44 |
| asac | its supposed to grow forever | 23:44 |
| asac | as history is preserved ;) | 23:44 |
| asac | so mozilla-central is heavily on fire again | 23:44 |
| fta | asac, it seems wrong now, read the #lp discussion between wgrant and cprov for earlier today | 23:46 |
| fta | asac, around 21:20 | 23:46 |
| asac | am i on #lp? | 23:47 |
| fta | #launchpad, yes | 23:47 |
| asac | nope ... seems i wasnt (left again) | 23:47 |
| asac | i wasnt in at that time ;) | 23:48 |
| fta | oh | 23:48 |
| fta | asac, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/13/%23launchpad.html start at 20:20 | 23:49 |
| asac | new brainstorm ;) ... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ | 23:50 |
| fta | looks like old deb are gone after 30 days to me | 23:50 |
| asac | really? | 23:54 |
| asac | "only superseded packages for obsolete distros are marked as Obsolete. The latest versions still Published." | 23:54 |
| asac | not sure what that means for ppas | 23:54 |
| asac | probably doesnt apply there | 23:54 |
| asac | but if we need it we can ask ;) | 23:54 |
| asac | how long does moz keep ffox dailies? | 23:55 |
| asac | forever? | 23:56 |
| asac | seems like | 23:56 |
| asac | 2004 at least | 23:56 |
| asac | crazy ;) | 23:57 |
| asac | i doubt that you can do that with all revisions of a full ubuntu archive ;) | 23:57 |
| fta | isn't it what snapshot.d.o is doing? | 23:57 |
| asac | yeah ... just thinking about it | 23:57 |
| asac | but those are not dailies ;) | 23:57 |
| asac | like what we want to do in ppa | 23:58 |
| asac | even for each and every commit ;) | 23:58 |
| asac | commit packages for ever ;) | 23:58 |
| asac | wow | 23:58 |
| asac | think about it | 23:58 |
| fta | jcastro, do you plan to update the gwibber ppa soon or should I go on and make my own update? | 23:59 |
| asac | hehe | 23:59 |
| asac | feel the pressure of fta | 23:59 |
| asac | fta: how about shaping and uploading to archive ;)? | 23:59 |
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