[00:20] hmm ... new linux-headers [00:20] does that mean there will be a new linux soon ;)? [00:34] asac, http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/01/09/dell.notebooks.ces.2009/ [00:52] nice [00:54] fta: i see that xul is building. thanks [00:54] maybe i can even test it before ending day ;) [03:53] was FF 2 removed in Intrepid? [03:58] <[reed]> I hope so. [04:00] [reed]: I was actually hoping it wasn't [04:01] I wanted to test FF 2 to see if it had less CPU usage [04:01] <[reed]> why not? Firefox 2 is being deprecated :) [04:02] well, my wife's laptop gets thrashed by FF 3 [04:02] <[reed]> because of what exactly? [04:02] and I was reading that it was more IO bound because of sqlite [04:02] <[reed]> yeah, probably [04:02] <[reed]> if the kernel team would ever fix their fsync() bug [04:02] it uses 100% CPU all the time [04:02] I added 1GB of RAM thinking it was that but it's not [04:03] <[reed]> you might try downloading Firefox 3.1 and testing it [04:03] it's an older laptop but it really didn't seem like it used to be *this* bad [08:37] [reed]: its unlikely that fsync bug will ever get fixed for ext3 (though i dont even know a bug id to be honest) [08:38] imo you should ask users to test a different file-system ... maybe ext4 is better? ;) [09:01] * asac still awake -> miracle ;) [09:01] * asac gets coffee [09:16] fta: 316452 [09:16] bug 316452 [09:16] ;) [09:16] Launchpad bug 316452 in nss "[jaunty] last update broke some libraries (libnss3-1d, libnspr4-0d)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316452 [09:16] there it is [09:18] BUGabundo_work: one question: what do you mean by "orthographic corrector"? [09:23] eheh [09:23] well the spell checker! [09:23] I guess I used to much Portuguese on it [09:23] :p [09:45] BUGabundo_work: ok ;) [10:53] but do you now know what I meant, asac? [10:53] was it your doing or was it in the spellchecker? [10:58] BUGabundo_work: no ;) ... i guess its probably spellcheker that got fixed/updated [11:01] but FF was the only app that it didn't work with keyboard shortcut [11:01] gwibber, kmail, OOo, etc all worked great! [11:05] FF is still no real gnome app [11:08] yeah [11:08] nor is Kmail [11:08] eheh [11:23] fta: wtf ... someone edited whiteboard from ~mozillateam branch even though he is not a member of team? [11:23] fta: ~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head [11:23] not that i dont appreciate the content added there ... just feels like its a permission thing [11:23] BUGabundo_work: i have no idea which keyboard shortcuts you are referring to ... are those standard bindings? [11:24] * asac reveals that he doesnt use spellchecker intensively [11:44] asac: the key between altgr and ctrl... the one that emulates mouse right click [13:13] asac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qwerty.svg <- the "application key" [13:26] yeah that's it, armin76 [13:40] Jan 13 12:23:57 fta: wtf ... someone edited whiteboard from ~mozillateam branch even though he is not a member of team? [13:40] asac, yep, i wondered too. it's not me for sure [13:41] i don't see what has been changed. [13:41] asac, who is that guy btw? [13:41] no clue (TM) [13:41] dont know him [13:41] "someone" ;) [13:43] https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek [13:44] bugsquad? could they update our branches? [13:46] i don"t see a diff in the email i got. the text looks like mine, maybe just the last line [13:50] hmm [13:50] NO CLUE (TM) [13:52] ok, i'll ask on #lp [13:57] thanks [14:00] asac, read the answer :( [14:04] asac, it's not possible to run epiphany over ssh ? [14:04] damn [14:04] dbus [14:05] fta2: evo is worse [14:05] fta2: epiphany at least runs in a chroot for me [14:05] while evo just crashes [14:05] fta2: cant you do a proper forward? [14:06] i have a proper port forwarding [14:07] for dbus? [14:07] well, no, X11 [14:09] not sure if one can forward unix sockets [14:09] if so it should be doable [14:09] otherwise wait for tcp dbus [14:10] fta2: actually ... why wouldnt that work? [14:11] i mean you run ephy on remote host ... on remote host there is dbus .. that should work [14:11] it doesnt need to be forwarded to your system i guess [14:11] maybe remote host doesnt have dbus running? [14:17] ** (epiphany-browser:21819): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-LzZUiyhzkn: Connection refused [14:34] asac, ^^ both sides have a desktop running so they both have dbus, it's a permission issue apparently [14:44] fta2: i think its an env issue yeah [14:45] fta2: ssh sets the dbus env ... to the file you have on your local system [14:45] that file doesnt exist obviously [14:45] what you probably need to do is to create a dbus session on the remote session after logging in and setting the env to the path created b taht [17:38] another sad reconnect here [17:40] Hi. Does anyone have experience with the firefox code that interacts with networkmanager to see network status? [17:44] vadi2: yes [17:44] vadi2: whats your idea (i am almost out for a while though) [17:44] ? [17:45] I need to ask network manager if the network is offline or no [17:45] But unable to find any good tutorials on this so far. [17:45] do you know anything that can help me started? [17:46] vadi2: is that a general question or in firefox? [17:46] in general its easy: just send a dbus message and you get the answer back [17:46] no, I just know that firefox does this. [17:46] well, tried - got access denied.. [17:47] vadi2: did you try command line? === asac_ is now known as asac [17:47] e.g. dbus-send? [17:47] vadi2: anyway ... have to run now. either wait a few hours; at best we can continue that in #nm channel (where others can help out too) [17:47] not yet [17:48] I will wait there [17:48] good [17:48] vadi2: please ping me in 3 hours or so ;) [17:48] otherwise i might forget [17:48] OK [17:48] cu [17:48] see you [20:55] seems this guy likes backporting stuff. https://edge.launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive [21:07] jcastro, gwibber has really troubles with "+". I had one in my password, nada. Alsa, when I paste a link with a "+", the shorted url resolves without the "+". [21:10] jcastro, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/fennec/1.0~a2-0ubuntu1 gives me http://is.gd/fL38 which is "https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/ source/fennec/1.0~a2-0ubuntu1" (note the space instead of the plus) [21:11] bad encoding [21:13] s/really/real/; i should reread myself, especially when i type while talking one the phone [21:15] fta: yeah it's a known bug [21:15] jcastro, problems with backslash too. impossible to type \o/ [21:16] yeah [21:16] it shows o/ [21:16] he just added moved his branch from personal to a small team [21:16] so fixes should start going in much faster [21:16] nice [21:16] there are a bunch of fixes sitting around [22:20] does anyone here know how to contact aza raskin? I want to ask him about packaging ubiquity extension... [22:20] (well, it's packaged actually, I just need to finish copyright file) [23:12] Jazzva: i already asked them i think [23:13] Jazzva: at best file a bug if ubiquity has a bugzilla component [23:13] refer to the fennec bug ... which is in progress [23:13] Jazzva: mozilla bug 471474 [23:13] Mozilla bug 471474 in General "fennec/mobile-browser hg tree lacks LICENSE file in top-level directory" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471474 [23:21] asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/fennec/1.0~a2-0ubuntu1 [23:22] fta: luck ;) [23:24] hm, my ppa is full, once again [23:27] let me check whether we have new nss/nspr transition bugs [23:27] asac: it's stated that it's under trilicense, I just need contact information for the copyright file, and to ask upstream if they're happy with us packaging their extension :) [23:28] off for a while... [23:28] asac, hurry, alpha3 is frozen ;) [23:31] fta: what is left to do for us? [23:31] fta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21134289/var-log-apt-term.log [23:32] somehow libnss was upgraded before libnspr? [23:32] how can that be? [23:32] did i mess up the build depends lower bounds or what? [23:33] Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libnspr4-0d (>= 4.7.3-0ubuntu1~), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9) [23:33] thats ok [23:33] (libnss3-1d) [23:33] it looks like it's the postinst step [23:34] fta: Log started : markers are for independent apt-get update runs [23:34] look at the very bottom [23:34] or isnt that true? [23:34] e.g. one marker for each upgrade [23:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/104596/ [23:36] fta: well grep can be tricky [23:36] look at the bottom of the log [23:36] there it is [23:36] hmm [23:36] i see what you mean ;) [23:37] anyway ... [23:37] lol, grep is grep, it's not tricky, it gives you what you asked for [23:37] no ... i thought you didnt look in the log at all ;) [23:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/104598/ [23:38] so he install --reinstall libnss3-1d [23:39] and libnspr4-0d later on [23:40] wh/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libplds4.so is not a symbolic link [23:40] [1~[3~[3~ [23:40] what sswatwhats the problem there? [23:41] urgh ;;) [23:42] are you trying to do some form of utf8 art ? [23:44] my PPA now has 7G [23:44] thats good [23:44] its supposed to grow forever [23:44] as history is preserved ;) [23:44] so mozilla-central is heavily on fire again [23:46] asac, it seems wrong now, read the #lp discussion between wgrant and cprov for earlier today [23:46] asac, around 21:20 [23:47] am i on #lp? [23:47] #launchpad, yes [23:47] nope ... seems i wasnt (left again) [23:48] i wasnt in at that time ;) [23:48] oh [23:49] asac, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/01/13/%23launchpad.html start at 20:20 [23:50] new brainstorm ;) ... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ [23:50] looks like old deb are gone after 30 days to me [23:54] really? [23:54] "only superseded packages for obsolete distros are marked as Obsolete. The latest versions still Published." [23:54] not sure what that means for ppas [23:54] probably doesnt apply there [23:54] but if we need it we can ask ;) [23:55] how long does moz keep ffox dailies? [23:56] forever? [23:56] seems like [23:56] 2004 at least [23:57] crazy ;) [23:57] i doubt that you can do that with all revisions of a full ubuntu archive ;) [23:57] isn't it what snapshot.d.o is doing? [23:57] yeah ... just thinking about it [23:57] but those are not dailies ;) [23:58] like what we want to do in ppa [23:58] even for each and every commit ;) [23:58] commit packages for ever ;) [23:58] wow [23:58] think about it [23:59] jcastro, do you plan to update the gwibber ppa soon or should I go on and make my own update? [23:59] hehe [23:59] feel the pressure of fta [23:59] fta: how about shaping and uploading to archive ;)?