| LaserJock | nhandler: can you add what just happened with the PPA copy to bug #225131 ? | 00:00 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 225131 in soyuz "PPA copy package ought to allow viewing multiple pages of results" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225131 | 00:00 |
| LaserJock | I think that's the right bug | 00:00 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| nhandler | LaserJock: Sure thing | 00:01 |
| LaserJock | nhandler: thanks | 00:01 |
| seele | ~kubotu help | 00:02 |
| kubotu | help topics: 9 core modules: auth, basics, config, filters, httputil, irclog, remote, unicode, userdata; 40 plugins: alias, autoop, autorejoin, babel, bans, bar, botsnack, chanserv, debug, dns, eightball, excuse, factoids, host, iplookup, karma, keywords, lastfm, markov, modes, nickrecover, nickserv, q, quote, reaction, remind, ri, rot, rss, salut, script, search, seen, time, topic, translator, twitter, urban, usermodes, wserver | 00:02 |
| kubotu | (help <topic> for more info) | 00:02 |
| seele | ~eightball | 00:02 |
| seele | hmm | 00:02 |
| neversfelde | I packaged a plasmoid, but I cannot upload to revu, because I do not know the authors full name. I mailed him, but got no answer, I cannot use a Nickname, can I? | 00:02 |
| seele | ~kubotu eightball | 00:02 |
| jjesse | ~kubuntu help karma | 00:02 |
| jjesse | ~kubotu help karma | 00:03 |
| kubotu | karma module: Listens to everyone's chat. <thing>++/<thing>-- => increase/decrease karma for <thing>, karma for <thing>? => show karma for <thing>, karmastats => show stats. Karma is a community rating system - only in-channel messages can affect karma and you cannot adjust your own. | 00:03 |
| jjesse | ~kubuntu eightball | 00:03 |
| jjesse | ~kubotu eightball | 00:03 |
| seele | it didnt work.. | 00:03 |
| seele | ~kubotu salut | 00:03 |
| kubotu | good evening seele :) | 00:03 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I don't remember for sure. Did you have a fix for kde4libs on armel yet? | 00:03 |
| nhandler | ~karmastats | 00:03 |
| kubotu | 225 items. Best: C (75); Worst: > (-23) | 00:03 |
| NCommander | ScottK, no, because I had my computer ICe | 00:04 |
| seele | ~urban kool-aid | 00:04 |
| kubotu | Kool-aid (1/22+): the water of the ghettos " You want some kool-aid?" " Man you know I want some kool-aid" | 00:04 |
| seele | no.. that's not what i want | 00:04 |
| seele | ~kubotu help urban | 00:04 |
| ScottK | NCommander: OK. I thought I remembered you said that went away. | 00:04 |
| kubotu | urban [word] [n]: give the [n]th definition of [word] from urbandictionary.com. urbanday: give the word-of-the-day at urban | 00:04 |
| NCommander | It just did today it seems | 00:05 |
| seele | ~urban kool-aid 5 | 00:05 |
| kubotu | kool-aid (5/22+): Propaganda brewed for mass consumption. E.g.: Bart drank the Bush administration's Kool-Aid about the war in Iraq, and got his ass pwned in... | 00:05 |
| seele | there we go | 00:05 |
| seele | ~urban kool-aid 3 | 00:05 |
| kubotu | kool-aid (3/22+): The universal drink of the ghetto. comes in many flavors such as grape, cherry, blueberry etc, but known to the ghetto natives as red, purple etc. also used as a slang term to describe a situation. You all up in my kool-aid and don't even know the flavor. What kind of kool-aid do you want?... umm... | 00:05 |
| seele | hmm.. that's not it | 00:05 |
| seele | i want cult description of kool-aid | 00:05 |
| NCommander | ~urban kubuntu | 00:07 |
| kubotu | kubuntu (1/1): An integrated Linux distro with all the great features of Ubuntu, but based on the KDE desktop. A good thing about Kubuntu is that it is free and can be downloaded, used, and upgraded for no money at all. Kubuntu can be either run off of a liveboot CD, or installed. Kubuntu is a good OS for people w... I currently dual boot with Windows XP and Kubuntu. | 00:07 |
| nhandler | NCommander: I guess something must have changed, pbuilder created a jaunty chroot this time. Although I have no clue what I did differently | 00:07 |
| seele | i still dont get how karma works | 00:09 |
| seele | ~karma Riddell | 00:09 |
| kubotu | karma for Riddell: 2 | 00:09 |
| seele | Riddell++ | 00:09 |
| seele | ~karma Riddell | 00:09 |
| kubotu | karma for Riddell: 3 | 00:09 |
| seele | ah hah! | 00:09 |
| nhandler | seele: It works just like that | 00:09 |
| seele | i see.. so no love for seele | 00:09 |
| * Riddell suddely feels self improvement | 00:09 | |
| nhandler | ~karma seele++ | 00:09 |
| kubotu | seele++ has neutral karma | 00:09 |
| JontheEchidna | neversfelde: hmm, not sure. Asking in #ubuntu-motu might be advisable | 00:09 |
| nhandler | seele++ | 00:09 |
| JontheEchidna | ~karma seele | 00:10 |
| kubotu | karma for seele: 2 | 00:10 |
| seele | yay! | 00:10 |
| nhandler | neversfelde: If you are unable to find it, and the author is not responding, the archive admins might still let it in | 00:10 |
| neversfelde | nhandler: thx, I will wait another day and then upload it. | 00:11 |
| LaserJock | ~karma neversfelde++ | 00:14 |
| kubotu | neversfelde++ has neutral karma | 00:14 |
| seele | neversfelde++ | 00:14 |
| seele | ~karma neversfelde | 00:14 |
| kubotu | karma for neversfelde: 2 | 00:14 |
| neversfelde | yay, +2 in 1ß seconds :) | 00:15 |
| * JontheEchidna reboots for full kde 4.2 goodness | 00:15 | |
| * seele sighs | 00:15 | |
| seele | mine is bork. neon is good though | 00:15 |
| * neversfelde lost plasma on intrepid | 00:15 | |
| * seele too | 00:16 | |
| LaserJock | I'm kinda scared to try it now :( | 00:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: got your email.... really sorry for the issue... | 00:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have to take my time to do it correctly :) | 00:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: are the archives frozen actually ? I didn't get the second part of your email... | 00:17 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, you won't until tomorrow, but it's ok you can just fix it and upload tonight | 00:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum.... 3 packages, 3 issues.... I may just be too tired to do things correctly today.... let's wait for tomorrow | 00:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: too many things in the work.... I shouldn't have missed the licencing issue, that's bad | 00:19 |
| nhandler | Why didn't the second copy batch show up? | 00:20 |
| * nhandler goes to fix it | 00:21 | |
| jjesse_ | hrmm anothernegative for knetworkmanager -- no easy way to share a wired internet via the wireless card like on my wife's macbook :( | 00:21 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 00:22 |
| * ScottK asks 5 year old a question ... | 00:25 | |
| seele | where do babies come from? | 00:25 |
| ScottK | Responses is, "Dad, I'm trying to color here." | 00:25 |
| neversfelde | sorry, hehe was for another channel :( | 00:25 |
| jjesse_ | hehe | 00:25 |
| seele | ScottK: lol did you ask her something mushy? | 00:25 |
| ScottK | Unfortunately she takes lessons from her tennage sisters. | 00:25 |
| ScottK | seele: Not mushy, just silly. | 00:26 |
| seele | ~twitter seele status | 00:27 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' | 00:27 |
| seele | ~twitter status seele | 00:27 |
| kubotu | enjoys a drink after returning from new york :/ (3 months, 3 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes and 24 seconds ago via web) | 00:27 |
| ScottK | In other news I blew my several week streak of not getting pissed off about Launchpad/LP developers. | 00:27 |
| seele | wtf i dont remember going to new york | 00:27 |
| ScottK | [18:42:19] <ScottK> BTW, I don't accept that people managing to develop a really slow web tool gives them any particular expertise about Linux distro development. | 00:27 |
| jjesse_ | wow 3 months 3 days 4 hours 11 minutes and 24 second s ago :) | 00:27 |
| seele | ~kubotu help twitter | 00:28 |
| kubotu | twitter status [nick] => show nick's (or your) status, use 'twitter friends status [nick]' to also show the friends' timeline | twitter update [status] => updates your status on twitter | twitter identify [username] [password] => ties your nick to your twitter username and password | twitter actions [on|off] => enable/disable twitting of actions (/me does ...) | 00:28 |
| jjesse_ | ScottK: that's an interesting comment | 00:28 |
| seele | it's also true | 00:28 |
| jjesse_ | agreeed | 00:28 |
| ScottK | Someone on #ubuntu-motu was holding out the help.launchpad.net recommendations on PPA revison numbering as somehow authoritative. | 00:29 |
| _neversfelde | ~twitter neversfelde status | 00:29 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' | 00:29 |
| seele | ~twitter update packing up after a boring day at a conference on genetically modified cryogenically frozen ninja mice who glow and fight cancer | 00:29 |
| kubotu | status updated | 00:29 |
| seele | ~twitter status seele | 00:29 |
| kubotu | enjoys a drink after returning from new york :/ (3 months, 3 days, 4 hours, 13 minutes and 48 seconds ago via web) | 00:29 |
| * seele smacks forehead | 00:29 | |
| nhandler | ScottK: I was having fun watching that conversation | 00:30 |
| * seele really does packup. brb | 00:30 | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| === neversfelde is now known as neversfelde_ | ||
| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| === neversfelde is now known as neversfelde_ | ||
| * Tonio_ beds... | 00:33 | |
| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| jjesse-dell9 | is intrepid safe to update with the ppa for kde4 enabled? | 00:35 |
| * ScottK doesn't know of anyone succeeding yet. | 00:36 | |
| ScottK | seele had trouble not so long ago. | 00:36 |
| neversfelde | me too | 00:37 |
| neversfelde | Plasma is not working atm | 00:39 |
| jjesse-dell9 | hrmm ok ill wait then :) | 00:40 |
| cbr_ | is anybody using the xorg-edgers ppa? | 00:41 |
| jjesse-dell9 | silly quick question, but is the vote for the technical board that mark sent out ot ubuntu-devel-announce and ubuntu-devel-discuss only supposed to be for the ubuntu-devel team or everyone? | 00:43 |
| neversfelde | ah another bundle of packages | 00:45 |
| neversfelde | probably it is working now | 00:45 |
| ScottK | jjesse-dell9: ubuntu-dev (which is MOTU and core-dev both) | 00:45 |
| jjesse-dell9 | ScottK ah thanks, was a bit confused by the email going out to such a big list and who was able to vote | 00:46 |
| LaserJock | it's rather odd that we're only voting for 1 person | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | a year or so ago Mark said he wanted the TB to be ~ 5 people | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | and instead we just get to replace mjg59 | 00:47 |
| neversfelde | yay, Plasma is back | 00:47 |
| jjesse-dell9 | LaserJock: i dont understand either | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | neversfelde: after what? | 00:48 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: I think it's great to have an actual vote | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: I suppose, not a a big one, but I guess it's better than nothing | 00:49 |
| LaserJock | "pick between two" | 00:49 |
| ScottK | First time for TB. | 00:49 |
| neversfelde | LaserJock: latest Update via the experimental repo | 00:50 |
| LaserJock | neversfelde: k, cool, I'll give it a go then | 00:50 |
| LaserJock | neversfelde: must have been python-kde4 | 00:50 |
| neversfelde | LaserJock: yes, should be the reason | 00:51 |
| jjesse-dell9 | who was working on ufw-kde? was that rgreening? | 00:51 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: that is good, but I think I'd rather have a confirmational vote on 3 new people :-) | 00:51 |
| LaserJock | especially if there was a community person in the 3 | 00:51 |
| seele | jjesse-dell9: yeah.. kuser and puthon-kde4 didnt upgrade | 00:51 |
| jjesse-dell9 | seele: hrmm so should i wait or should i go? | 00:52 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: just apt-get update and look to make sure nothing's being held back | 00:52 |
| seele | LaserJock: is python-kde4 why plasma is crashing? | 00:53 |
| LaserJock | seele: I think it must be | 00:53 |
| neversfelde | python-kde4 was not updated, because kdepim was missing | 00:53 |
| LaserJock | seele: neversfelde updated that an kusers and now he's got python | 00:53 |
| * ScottK dinners | 00:54 | |
| neversfelde | it is available now and plasma is working again | 00:54 |
| LaserJock | bah, s/python/plasma/ | 00:54 |
| seele | ah cool.. more updates | 00:55 |
| neversfelde | I love KDE 4.2 | 00:55 |
| jjesse-dell9 | looks like nothing is being held back so away i go | 00:55 |
| nhandler | Glad to see that that last copy batch worked. | 01:02 |
| * nhandler really despises the ppa copy system | 01:02 | |
| seele | yaay my kde is back | 01:05 |
| seele | jjesse-dell9: now it seems safe | 01:05 |
| jjesse-dell9 | hrmm dropbox can run under kde as long as gdm is being used | 01:07 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: it doesn't work without gdm? | 01:10 |
| jjesse-dell9 | LaserJock: corrrrect | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | bummer | 01:11 |
| jjesse-dell9 | LaserJock: none of my files were getting updating until i configured gdm instead of kdm | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | odd | 01:11 |
| jjesse-dell9 | apprantly it needs nautlius | 01:12 |
| jjesse-dell9 | dont know for sure | 01:13 |
| nhandler | jjesse-dell9: I know it modifies the nautilus right click menu | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | right | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | but I wouldn't think gdm = nautilus | 01:13 |
| nhandler | LaserJock: I'm not sure why it needs gdm | 01:13 |
| jjesse-dell9 | me either but now it works | 01:14 |
| nhandler | Time to see how rc1 works for me | 01:17 |
| jjesse-dell9 | rc1 of? | 01:17 |
| neversfelde | problems with xinerama are not solved | 01:17 |
| seele | hum.. where is the wlalpaper installed. it didnt show up | 01:18 |
| neversfelde | tha wallpaper is mhhh | 01:18 |
| seele | no way.. i like it | 01:18 |
| neversfelde | we call it "Geschmacksache sagte der Affe" :) | 01:18 |
| seele | which means.. | 01:18 |
| jjesse-dell9 | sneeze? | 01:19 |
| neversfelde | taste, says the monkey and bites into the soft soap | 01:20 |
| neversfelde | probably | 01:20 |
| neversfelde | you cannot translat it I think | 01:20 |
| vorian | haha | 01:22 |
| neversfelde | my father loves this saying and he has birthdy today. 60 years | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: I just tried dropbox here with kdm and it worked | 01:24 |
| nhandler | Well, kubuntu is running great on my laptop now. I think I'll have to stick with it :) | 01:25 |
| vorian | win | 01:25 |
| nhandler | kubuntu++ | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | nhandler: I'm getting that feeling as well | 01:26 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 01:27 |
| jjesse-dell9 | LaserJock: hrmm somethings is wierd it wouldnt update any files for me | 01:27 |
| nhandler | jjesse-dell9: What wouldn't? | 01:27 |
| jjesse-dell9 | none of my files would update, like i would update a file on my windows box and it wouldnt copy over to my kubuntu box | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: I just tried adding a file on my kubuntu box. I suppose it could be just a one-way problem | 01:29 |
| jjesse-dell9 | LaserJock: so you added a file and it is updated now on the dropbox side of things as well? | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | I checked on the web interface | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | I have gdm installed, but it's not running | 01:31 |
| jjesse-dell9 | interesting | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | bah, kdebase-workspace is FTBFS on amd64, no wonder I was having problems | 01:38 |
| jjesse-dell9 | so whos watching american idol besides me tonight? | 01:38 |
| nhandler | jjesse-dell9: My brother is | 01:38 |
| jjesse-dell9 | my wife is in the hotel room so i am | 01:38 |
| neversfelde | Deutschland such den Superstar is hard enough | 01:41 |
| neversfelde | my girlfriend is watching that shit, but I never would | 01:41 |
| * JontheEchidna realizes he never did reboot | 01:42 | |
| nhandler | Neither did I. I have the little notification telling me to do so | 01:42 |
| jjesse-dell9 | i take it deutschland such den superstar is the german version of idol? | 01:43 |
| JontheEchidna | brb | 01:43 |
| neversfelde | jjesse-dell9: yes it is | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | python-kde4-dev: Depends: python-kde4 (< 4:4.1.96-0ubuntu1.1~) but it is not going to be installed | 01:43 |
| neversfelde | and it is as bad as the american version | 01:43 |
| nhandler | LaserJock: Intrepid? | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | Jaunty | 01:44 |
| nhandler | amd64? | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:44 |
| * nhandler goes to see if it has built | 01:44 | |
| * neversfelde goes to bed | 01:45 | |
| LaserJock | it said it built yesterday | 01:45 |
| neversfelde | n8 everyone | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | and it looks to me like kdebase-workspace was started after, so I don't get it | 01:45 |
| vorian | LaserJock: it was | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | so why wouldn't it have found it :( | 01:46 |
| nhandler | It looks like aside from a few plasmoids, the kde packages for amd64 have built | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.96-0ubuntu2/+build/836383 | 01:47 |
| vorian | not so nhandler | 01:48 |
| jjesse-dell9 | shouldnt the reboot notifier come up after the process of updating is done | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: heh, that's a good point. if somebody got antsy they could reboot in the middle | 01:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, everything's cool except kdm is now using plastique | 01:49 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: ^ | 01:49 |
| vorian | nhandler: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending&start=500&batch=50 | 01:49 |
| jjesse-dell9 | totally i almost hit it but then switched over to the konsole and noticed the upgrade still going | 01:49 |
| vorian | builds of kdeutils, kdeplasma-addons, kdesdk, kdedmin, kdetoys, -workspace, -runtime have yet to be built | 01:50 |
| vorian | for amd64, that is | 01:50 |
| nhandler | Yeah, I had the wrong filter option ;) | 01:51 |
| * nhandler liked thinking everything built | 01:51 | |
| jjesse-dell9 | hrmm ok back | 01:57 |
| jjesse-dell9 | whats the name of the default background? is it air? or something like that? | 01:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Air, yes | 01:59 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse-dell9: btw, is kickoff still too small? | 01:59 |
| * JontheEchidna remembers a bug report you filed about that | 01:59 | |
| jjesse-dell9 | JontheEchidna: nope its been scaling correct for awhile, didnt i close th report? | 01:59 |
| * JontheEchidna checks | 02:00 | |
| jjesse-dell9 | if not, please do | 02:00 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, closing now | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | nhandler: so can you figure out why -workspace didn't build? it looks to me like it should have | 02:00 |
| vorian | LaserJock: it did build, this is a re-build | 02:01 |
| vorian | there was a flaw with a modified kdm.init script which would have been bad news | 02:02 |
| nhandler | vorian: What was that emerald app for kde you were talking about? choqok and a few other applications have ugly windows that I want to fix | 02:13 |
| vorian | kde-style-dekorator \o/ | 02:13 |
| nhandler | Was it backported to intrepid? | 02:13 |
| vorian | er, no | 02:13 |
| vorian | let me work on that | 02:13 |
| nhandler | :D | 02:14 |
| vorian | nhandler: it's in the kubuntu-members ppa iirc | 02:14 |
| * vorian checks | 02:14 | |
| nhandler | vorian: For intrepid? | 02:14 |
| vorian | nope, nevermind | 02:14 |
| vorian | it's kwin-style-dekorator | 02:16 |
| nhandler | JontheEchidna: Aside from looking ugly, choqoK runs fine on Intrepid. I put up a copy in my PPA, but it is identical to the jaunty version | 02:16 |
| ScottK | nhandler: It'd been backported once, if it needs updating, please file a backports bug. | 02:16 |
| nhandler | ScottK: What was backported? kwin-style-dekorator? | 02:17 |
| vorian | ScottK: no backport exists | 02:17 |
| ScottK | NCommander: choqoK | 02:17 |
| ScottK | Urgh. | 02:17 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Where? intrepid-backports? | 02:17 |
| ScottK | nhandler:^^^ | 02:17 |
| vorian | oh, yeah | 02:17 |
| ScottK | IIRC. | 02:17 |
| vorian | that was done yesterday | 02:18 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Ok, thanks. I really didn't look hard. I'll get the backports version | 02:18 |
| jjesse-dell9 | hrmm kontact is crashing everytime i open it up now that ive restarted | 02:26 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse-dell9: what version is it at? | 02:26 |
| ScottK | vorian: mysql bug or amarok bug: Bug #316957 | 02:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 316957 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.30-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: 子进程 post-installation script 返回了错误号 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316957 | 02:27 |
| * vorian checks | 02:27 | |
| * ScottK notes that vorian is now and forever more the amarok packaging expert. | 02:27 | |
| jjesse-dell9 | kontact is version 1.3 | 02:27 |
| vorian | heh | 02:27 |
| vorian | :) | 02:27 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse-dell9: I sorta meant apt-cache policy kontact :P | 02:28 |
| jjesse-dell9 | oh sorry | 02:28 |
| jjesse-dell9 | JontheEchidna: 4.1.96-0ubuntu1-intrepid1-ppa2 | 02:28 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, and kdepimlibs5? | 02:29 |
| jjesse-dell9 | 4.1.96-0ubuntu-intrepid1-ppa1 | 02:29 |
| jjesse-dell9 | interesting, what is the difference between ppa1 and ppa2? | 02:30 |
| JontheEchidna | kdepim probably had to be uploaded twice | 02:30 |
| vorian | ScottK: i would bet $100 smackers that this is due to 5.0 being built already, and 5.1 in the wings - so we have libclientmysql15/16 conflicts that don't actually exist yet | 02:30 |
| JontheEchidna | that shouldn't be the issue though | 02:30 |
| JontheEchidna | this makes the crash somewhat puzzling though | 02:30 |
| ScottK | vorian: Mark in the bug then please. | 02:31 |
| vorian | will do | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'm still stuck on why -workspace FTBFS | 02:31 |
| jjesse-dell9 | i thi9nk the problem is in kmail | 02:31 |
| * LaserJock feels like he's missing something | 02:31 | |
| jjesse-dell9 | kmakmail | 02:32 |
| torkiano | Kde4rc1 rocks, thank you guys! | 02:32 |
| JontheEchidna | jjesse-dell9: kmail works here :D | 02:32 |
| * JontheEchidna away for a bit | 02:33 | |
| jjesse-dell9 | bummer, just running kmail and it crashes as well | 02:33 |
| antiquark | Hi. RSSNOW and the News plasmoids do not fetch the RSS Feeds in 4.2RC. The same problem existed in 4.2B2 and had been reported. | 02:33 |
| jjesse-dell9 | sock_file=/home/jonathan.kde/socket-dell-9/kdeinit4__0 | 02:34 |
| vorian | ScottK: amarok will need rebuilding, since it pulls in libmysqlserver15-dev | 02:35 |
| jjesse-dell9 | anyone having issues with the weather applet not updating? | 02:36 |
| antiquark | maybe because the temperature doesn't change all the time? | 02:38 |
| jjesse-dell9 | shows all 0 | 02:39 |
| antiquark | works properly here | 02:40 |
| antiquark | try changing the location | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | it seems to work her | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | +e | 02:41 |
| jjesse-dell9 | hrmm i think the problem is with noaa? or whatever the us data source is | 02:43 |
| nhandler | NCommander: I lied earlier about the pbuilder issue. I get a bunch of Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com' messages | 02:43 |
| antiquark | Anyone else without working RSS plasmoids? | 02:45 |
| jjesse-dell9 | every folder but my inbox (gmail over imap) works correctly | 02:47 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: I'm using NOAA | 02:48 |
| antiquark | my gmail over imap works correctly | 02:48 |
| jjesse-dell9 | gargh must be me | 02:49 |
| LaserJock | jjesse-dell9: I think you're just special :p | 02:49 |
| jjesse-dell9 | probablly should go to be bed then :) | 02:49 |
| jjesse-dell9 | thanks LaserJock i think you're special as well | 02:50 |
| torkiano | hello, plasma crash when I add comics to comics applet | 02:50 |
| LaserJock | torkiano: I got that as well | 02:50 |
| LaserJock | antiquark: RSSNOW just sits there with "fetching feeds" is that what you get? | 02:51 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh | 02:53 |
| JontheEchidna | apparently the rss engine will only build if kdepimlibs are present, but cmake doesn't say anything at all if they aren't | 02:53 |
| vorian | oh goodness | 02:53 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah :/ | 02:54 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: we have to wait for all of 4.1.4 to build before the rest of amd64 is done | 02:54 |
| JontheEchidna | holy damn | 02:54 |
| torkiano | JontheEchidna: that affects me too? | 02:55 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, the rss dataengine isn't being built in our packages | 02:55 |
| torkiano | JontheEchidna: ok, good work anyone (not everything can be perfect ;-)) | 02:57 |
| antiquark | LaserJock: yes that's what I get | 02:59 |
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| ScottK | vorian: Universe isn't frozen, so you can upload it again anytime. | 04:09 |
| vorian | right-o | 04:10 |
| vorian | i didn't even notice networkanager 0.7 is in the pipes | 04:10 |
| DaSkreech | Been for a while | 04:14 |
| vorian | no, i mean at this moment, waiting to be built | 04:14 |
| * vorian is somewhat tiredish | 04:14 | |
| nhandler | Then go to bed vorian, it is 11:15 your time | 04:16 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: Is there any chance you could rescore kdebase-workspace on amd64? It's kind of holding up the train. | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | anybody around running Jaunty amd64? | 04:56 |
| nixternal | I am | 04:58 |
| nixternal | haven't upgraded recently with my kubuntu desktop though | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: you running it right now? | 05:01 |
| ScottK | nixternal: We want to know why python-kde4 is currently uninstallable. | 05:01 |
| nixternal | don't have it turned on | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: get with it MAN! | 05:01 |
| ScottK | Would you try and install it and see why it says no? | 05:01 |
| nixternal | in jaunty? | 05:01 |
| * LaserJock gets out the whip | 05:01 | |
| * nixternal fires up kubuntu jaunty amd64 | 05:01 | |
| nixternal | I love how fast kubuntu jaunty fires up on my x86_64 box | 05:03 |
| nixternal | 2941kB/s | 05:03 |
| nixternal | gotta love that | 05:03 |
| nixternal | umm, I take it I shouldn't be dist-upgrading in jaunty yet, as it wants to remove a bunch of stuff | 05:04 |
| DaSkreech | Like Gnome? | 05:04 |
| DaSkreech | How's that month of Gnome | 05:05 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: what do you want me to check out? | 05:05 |
| nixternal | ScottK: I can't install python-kde4 as it is already installed and is being held back | 05:05 |
| nixternal | dist-upgrade wants to remove a lot of stuff that I don't want being removed right now | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: what Scott said | 05:05 |
| ScottK | OK. Can haz lizt? | 05:05 |
| nixternal | seems like the kde4.2 stuff hasn't all built yet | 05:05 |
| nixternal | !paste | 05:06 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 05:06 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Do you that python-kde4-dev installed ? | 05:06 |
| nixternal | no | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: what does it say when you just do apt-get upgrade python-kde4 ? | 05:06 |
| nixternal | n | 05:06 |
| nixternal | err | 05:06 |
| nixternal | wrong keyboard | 05:07 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: If he tries to install the -dev I think the list of what it wants to remove will be very instructive. | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:07 |
| nixternal | I just installed python-kde4-dev without any problems | 05:07 |
| ScottK | Argh. | 05:08 |
| ScottK | OK. Then the what it wants to remove if you upgrad python-kde4? | 05:08 |
| ScottK | upgrad/upgrade | 05:08 |
| nixternal | python-kde4: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | 05:08 |
| nixternal | interesting | 05:09 |
| nixternal | dist-upgrade == kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons kubuntu-desktop ---- REMOVED | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | ah hah | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | kdebase-runtime is not built | 05:10 |
| nixternal | well that's not good | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | it's still in the queue | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | so when that gets built then python-kde4 becomes installable and kdebase-workspace will build :-) | 05:11 |
| ScottK | That's not so bad. | 05:11 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I looked at the armel build failure log for kde4libs. i saw qreal and flet. How's your armel box doing now? | 05:12 |
| NCommander | 59% | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | kdebase-runtime's ETA is 8 hours and kdebase-workspace's is 11 hours | 05:13 |
| NCommander | It will be at the point of failure tommorow | 05:13 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: We could ask Hobbsee to rescore them. | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | as long as they get scored together | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 05:16 |
| * ScottK knows exactly how many uploads he did today because he got one armel build failure mail per upload. | 05:18 | |
| LaserJock | heh | 05:19 |
| Tm_T | #313318 | 05:46 |
| Tm_T | hm | 05:46 |
| Tm_T | bug #313318 | 05:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 313318 in kdebase-workspace "LCD Weather, RSSNOW and News applet don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313318 | 05:46 |
| DaSkreech | ooooh new KDM wallpaper | 06:01 |
| DaSkreech | Does it make sense to make a post about the RC ? | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: hrm? | 06:36 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: Please? | 06:36 |
| * ScottK guesses those builds are currently on the critical path for the Alpha release. | 06:37 | |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: what do you care about? armel? | 06:38 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: amd64. kdebase-workspace and kdebase-runtime. | 06:38 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i see. | 06:39 |
| ScottK | We're currently totally dean on armel due to kde4libs FTBFS that needs someone who actually knows what they are doing to fix (i.e. not me). | 06:39 |
| ScottK | dean/dead | 06:39 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 06:40 |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: can't fix it, i take it | 06:41 |
| * Hobbsee inserts a $, to make the script work better. | 06:41 | |
| ScottK | NCommander is having armel hardware problems. | 06:41 |
| ScottK | No one else working on Kubuntu has any AFAIK. | 06:42 |
| * Hobbsee scratches head | 06:42 | |
| Hobbsee | oh. I think hte heat is effecting me. | 06:42 |
| NCommander | ScottK, its working fine | 06:49 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I just had an out of date compiler | 06:49 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 06:49 |
| NCommander | ScottK, and I just confirmed the FTBFS :-) | 06:49 |
| NCommander | Now to cook a fix | 06:49 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 06:49 |
| ScottK | Maybe you should email StevenK first and see if he'd rather do it himself? | 06:50 |
| NCommander | Wait, StevenK already working on this? | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | define this? | 06:54 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: how hot is it? | 06:55 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, ARM portability fixes | 06:55 |
| DaSkreech | Which city? | 06:55 |
| ScottK | NCommander: No. It was a snarky comment about his comments on your core-dev app. | 06:55 |
| NCommander | ScottK, Steve is perfectly entitled to his opinions. | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: 38C, give or take? | 06:56 |
| NCommander | I may not like the, but I'm not going to ignore criticism when I hear it. | 06:56 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm only 26 degrees here | 06:57 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Certainly. I'm just not a big fan of this particular one (usually I tend to agree with him). All your 'failures' did was burn up a little buildd time. In the end you succeeded and the alternative was no KDE on armel. | 06:57 |
| ScottK | Certainly learning is good, but that doesn't diminish the value of what you did. | 06:57 |
| NCommander | Well, the job got done anyway | 06:57 |
| ScottK | Exactly. | 06:58 |
| NCommander | and in a few weeks, the point will be mute; I'll be able to upload to the KDE repos | 06:58 |
| NCommander | ScottK, granted, the sanity KDE took with me I may never recover from, but at least upstream is slowly getting our patches merged | 06:58 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, i've been meaning to reply to that core dev app | 06:58 |
| * NCommander wonders if Hobbsee is planning to put another torpedo in it | 06:59 | |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: well, i agree with some of his points. | 06:59 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, as do I | 06:59 |
| DaSkreech | What on earth is vegan fruit ? | 06:59 |
| NCommander | DaSkreech, fruit not fertelized with animal parts, or droppings | 07:00 |
| DaSkreech | So it's fertilized without fertilizer ? | 07:00 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, I agree too, else the email sent to Steve would have me OMG YOUR WRONG, sorta thing. | 07:00 |
| NCommander | DaSkreech, you can use compost like other planets, but pretty much | 07:00 |
| DaSkreech | Isn't that like what started mad cow disease? :) | 07:00 |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: you seem to jump from shiny to shiny, and once you're a core developer, you can implement more things that you're interested in, but there's less of a guarentee that you'll keep doing them. | 07:01 |
| Hobbsee | and I see your arguments, in terms of helping others out | 07:01 |
| Hobbsee | but it's the projects that you might lead yourself that's concerning | 07:01 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: No that was having cows eat dead cow parts. | 07:01 |
| NCommander | ScottK, that's where mad cow came from (or well, cows eating sheep) | 07:02 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah well vegan fruit is having plants eat dead plants | 07:02 |
| Hobbsee | although, presumably, as you're contracted to work for canonical now, you will have to spend the time consistently on the areas that you're involved in. | 07:02 |
| Hobbsee | so perhaps it's less risky now. | 07:02 |
| * NCommander swears | 07:02 | |
| NCommander | How'd that slip out into the community? | 07:02 |
| * Hobbsee raises an eyebrow | 07:02 | |
| Hobbsee | if you're giving activity reports in public meetings, what do you expect to happen? | 07:03 |
| NCommander | Who's awake at 8am EST :-P | 07:03 |
| ScottK | \o | 07:03 |
| Hobbsee | community members don't just give activity reports, unless they either work at canonical, or are contracted. duh. | 07:03 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, -_-;, I was trying not to say anything | 07:03 |
| NCommander | contracted to work for canonical now - I'm not contracted anyway; I'm employeed | 07:04 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, mostly because thats the point, people treat you differently when you work for the powers that be. | 07:05 |
| NCommander | Its subtle, but the difference does exist. | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: understandable. It makes a difference on your core dev app though | 07:05 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, as a general rule of thumb, I want to get by on merits, and talents, not because i get a paycheck | 07:05 |
| NCommander | There is a reason my @canonical.com email isn't on LP, or been used on any public list. | 07:06 |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: well, I can't really see the point of officially replying to it. If you're a part of the evil empire, you'll need the powers, and you're probably technically good enough to get them. If you screw up a cd build or something, then they'll have your mobiel number to call you up and yell at you, and tell you to fix it by a particular time, so it's probably safe for you to get core dev ;) | 07:09 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, nah, they'll just pay to send Steve to my apartment | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | from australia? unlikely. | 07:10 |
| NCommander | heh | 07:10 |
| ScottK | nixternal lives closer and since he's from Chicago, he probably has a side business 'straightening people out'. | 07:10 |
| NCommander | ScottK, nixternal doesn't work for Canonical unless I missed a memo | 07:11 |
| NCommander | Or at least as far as I know doesn't work | 07:11 |
| ScottK | Right. To straighten someone out you usually use an outside contactor. | 07:11 |
| ScottK | Plausible deniability and all that. | 07:11 |
| NCommander | ScottK, eh, there enough people who hate me that it would be possible to find someone to do it pro bono | 07:12 |
| ScottK | Or take up a collection. | 07:12 |
| DaSkreech | no no I think that pro bono is fine for me | 07:16 |
| DaSkreech | I'll take that collection though | 07:16 |
| * ScottK needs to get to bed. | 07:17 | |
| ScottK | Good night all. | 07:17 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: Thanks for the rescores. | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: y/w | 07:18 |
| Riddell | morning | 07:55 |
| DaSkreech | morning | 07:57 |
| Riddell | I wonder if something interesting will be announced today | 07:57 |
| DaSkreech | Too late | 07:57 |
| Riddell | yeah well let's not talk about the bad people who can't wait | 07:58 |
| Riddell | there it is | 08:00 |
| Riddell | http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt Qt LGPL'ed | 08:00 |
| Riddell | ~twitter update Qt to be LGPL! | 08:08 |
| kubotu | status updated | 08:08 |
| DaSkreech | Is MSN working In the RC packages? | 08:12 |
| Riddell | no | 08:13 |
| DaSkreech | is there a time line for it to work? | 08:15 |
| DaSkreech | Ch1ppy says the notes specifically said that MSN doesn't work for jaunty | 08:15 |
| DaSkreech | kmail crashes on mail check for me | 08:16 |
| Riddell | I'll just promote libmsn after the alpha, they've had long enough to review | 08:16 |
| DaSkreech | *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) | 08:16 |
| Ch1ppy | Hey, it seems that kopete was compiled without MSN support in the RC, but this isn't reflected in the release announcement. One or the other should be fixed... | 08:19 |
| Ch1ppy | It's extremely irritating for me because I explicitly looked for it and upgraded on seeing nothing about it, but now there's no way back | 08:20 |
| Riddell | Ch1ppy: it's alpha software, we'll get it working today or tomorrow | 08:21 |
| Ch1ppy | Riddell: Alpha software? It's an RC?? | 08:21 |
| Riddell | Jaunty Alpha 3 out tomorrow | 08:21 |
| Ch1ppy | oh, sorry | 08:21 |
| Ch1ppy | In Intrepid | 08:21 |
| roccolord | kmail crashes on startup on 8.10 with 4.2rc packages, worked fine in beta2 | 08:23 |
| roccolord | 3 different imap accounts, akonodi 1.10 | 08:23 |
| DaSkreech | roccolord: What error message from console? | 08:23 |
| Ch1ppy | Riddell: The release announcement does say that MSN support isn't in Jaunty though; if I were running that I would have abstained for that reason | 08:23 |
| roccolord | ** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) | 08:24 |
| roccolord | KCrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... | 08:24 |
| roccolord | sock_file=/home/robert/.kde/socket-vostro2/kdeinit4__0 | 08:24 |
| DaSkreech | Same here | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: reuploaded policykit-kde, libpackagekit and kpackagekit | 08:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: they all are in NEW (I know we-re frozen...) | 08:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and this time I took up the time to do things correctly.... sorry for yesterday, but my concentration was really bad :) | 08:26 |
| roccolord | neponuk crashes on startup | 08:29 |
| roccolord | 477.847643] nepomukservices[6427]: segfault at 4 ip b7db07e2 sp bf9bc7a0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[b7d5d000+225000] | 08:29 |
| Tonio_ | mbiebl: hey ! long time no see :) | 08:29 |
| Tonio_ | mbiebl: have you tried playing with the network-manager plasmoid for kde4 ? | 08:29 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm i've never gotten nepomuk or strigi to work | 08:29 |
| mbiebl | Tonio_: hi | 08:29 |
| mbiebl | Tonio_: no, I'm still using KDE 3 | 08:30 |
| * mbiebl waiting for getting lenny released | 08:30 | |
| Tonio_ | mbiebl: oki... I wanted to get some bugs confirmed somehow :) | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | hi Lure | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: any plans to work on k3b ? I'm currently praparing the kde4 version a testing package... | 08:34 |
| Lure | hi Tonio_ | 08:34 |
| Lure | Tonio_: not until from-SVN works for me | 08:35 |
| Lure | Tonio_: currently is pretty useless | 08:35 |
| Tonio_ | true that :) | 08:35 |
| Tonio_ | It's beeing reported to work for most people.... and preparing the package is nevertheless a waste of time :) | 08:36 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it looks to me that something is wrong with K3Process (execution of external commands) | 08:36 |
| Lure | so it might not be much to make it work | 08:37 |
| Lure | but I do not have time to look into it until end-Jan, as I want to work on some feature for KIPI-Plugins first | 08:37 |
| Lure | Tonio_: but I am availble for testing you packages ;-) | 08:37 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yep I'll let you the work on kipi-plugins :) | 08:38 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: digikam is to be concerned for packaging too :) | 08:38 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'll ping allee on that point | 08:38 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I work on KDE-svn, and updating digikam/kipi-plugins is not an issue | 08:38 |
| Lure | even less as it is in universe ;-) | 08:38 |
| Lure | so I can upload alone | 08:38 |
| Lure | digikam is already in | 08:38 |
| Lure | merged with debian/experimental | 08:39 |
| Lure | RC is planned for en of month and I will update it | 08:39 |
| Tonio_ | hum nice :) | 08:39 |
| * Tonio_ will have to consider a kubufox package too... | 08:39 | |
| DaSkreech | WE have that? | 08:39 |
| DaSkreech | Make it suggested :-D | 08:40 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: that's something I want to make, with oxygen theme packaged and so on | 08:40 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: I already have a prototype that pretty much works :) | 08:41 |
| DaSkreech | Neat :) | 08:44 |
| DaSkreech | Submit it to the firefox-qt project | 08:45 |
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| knusperfrosch | what's going wrong here? http://imagebin.org:80/35753 | 09:17 |
| knusperfrosch | adept lost it's icons too, it uses the computer-icon too in systray | 09:18 |
| jussi01 | can anyone give me an update on where the RC! intrepid amd64 packagezs are at? dont want to kill things yet | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | do other people here have issues with mysql-server 5.1 preinst script ? | 09:32 |
| doc__ | hi there | 10:14 |
| DaSkreech | hi | 10:16 |
| knusperfrosch | apachelogger: anything i have to care about before switching to kde-nightly? | 10:37 |
| mok0 | Ydrk I just installed intrepid KDE-4.2 from the ppa and now I don't have a window manager anymore | 11:16 |
| mok0 | Any suggestions? | 11:17 |
| mok0 | I don't have a choise of "KDE" on the login screen | 11:17 |
| Nightrose | Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers_4%3a4.1.96-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_all.deb : trying to overwrite `/usr/share/wallpapers/Golden_Ripples/metadata.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers. | 11:23 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: JontheEchidna ^ | 11:23 |
| Tm_T | there's more | 11:24 |
| Tm_T | libmsn is missing, roight? | 11:24 |
| nhandler | vorian: kdenetwork is fixed | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 12:16 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: partitionmanager beta1 is out | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: want me to update your experimental package and submit it to review ? | 12:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hi | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I fixed all the 3 packages, they must be okay now.... sorry for yesterday.... that was a bad day :) | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is the thing I'm supposed to understand today public yet ? :) | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and also, I've been testing k3b 2 and got pretty goot results.... packaging on the way | 12:26 |
| torkiano | Tonio_: I updated your page about a kubuntu VoIP solution, there are interesting changes ;-) | 12:30 |
| roccolord | Could someone with access update http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1, and state that msn in kopete isn't supported on 8.10 either, if that is intended. | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | torkiano: will have a look :) | 12:32 |
| torkiano | also, i've submited an idea to ubuntu brainstorm to improve VoIP in kubuntu. Anyone interested: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17266/ | 12:35 |
| roccolord | sorry I see that this is fixed now, msn is working proper again | 12:35 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt | 12:35 |
| Tm_T | aye | 12:35 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hmm, I'm sending a mail to our bdfl about few things, something I should keep in mind? | 12:36 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: to Mark? what are you saying? | 12:38 |
| torkiano | Riddell: Wow, there isn't excuses to utilize GTK now XD | 12:38 |
| Riddell | certainly not | 12:39 |
| torkiano | I like this: "Qt source code repositories will be made publicly available and will encourage contributions from desktop and embedded developer communities" | 12:39 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: about summers Assembly event, inviting him to join us there (he wanted to be there so...) also one personal thing | 12:39 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hmm, something I should say about our team too? | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: sure | 12:40 |
| torkiano | And why LGPL v2.1 and not LGPL v3? | 12:41 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: oh and also about Linux in schools issues | 12:41 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: tell him nice quote on the Nokia press release :) | 12:41 |
| Riddell | torkiano: to be compatible with GPL 2 | 12:41 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: heh, will do | 12:41 |
| torkiano | but Qt is under GPL3, isn't it? | 12:42 |
| Tm_T | now reboot to updated KDE -> | 12:42 |
| roccolord | Would it possible to rebuild kmail with http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=908525, to stop imap crasher, looks to be backported 4.2 after freeze. | 12:42 |
| Riddell | torkiano: 2 and 3 | 12:42 |
| mok0 | Just hosed my system trying to install 4.2 | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | worked like a charm here | 12:43 |
| mok0 | apachelogger: on intrepid? | 12:44 |
| mok0 | I'm back on 4.1 -- after a terrible ordeal -- it'll be a while before I attempt THAT again | 12:46 |
| torkiano | Riddell: you are true. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility | 12:47 |
| nixternal | http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2009/01/14/qt-lgpl - ouch | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | mok0: jaunty | 12:49 |
| mok0 | apachelogger: ah | 12:49 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ouch? | 12:49 |
| mok0 | apachelogger: I'm not brave enough to upgrade my production system to jauty | 12:49 |
| * Riddell wonders if nixternal reads planet gnome first thing in the morning | 12:50 | |
| nixternal | Riddell: all the comments | 12:50 |
| nixternal | it is in my google reader | 12:50 |
| nixternal | i read that every morning for about 20 minutes before I leave for work | 12:50 |
| Riddell | nixternal: comments seem good | 12:51 |
| nixternal | for Qt :) | 12:51 |
| nixternal | qt is teh winnah...at work we have a java based client for our grid, and it was the ugliest thing ever...jambi fixed that up | 12:52 |
| * nixternal gets ready to leave...have a nice day everyone! | 12:52 | |
| vorian | morning | 12:53 |
| nhandler | Hey vorian | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | people | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | take a look at Qt's keymapping stuff | 12:56 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: interesting this is: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-devel-list/2008-July/msg00027.html | 13:01 |
| * apachelogger certainly flames KDE | 13:02 | |
| Tm_T | actually that's what I have been through, GNOME/GTK people keep spreading FUD and refuse to find out facts | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: lets do the same | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | GNOME stopped development when Qt got dual licensing :P | 13:09 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I'm rejecting kpackagekit and libpackagekit-qt, but you have to promise not to be over appologetic! | 13:11 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: just needs the COPYING file added | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | :) | 13:12 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: I rather not | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: mom, you are no fun :P | 13:16 |
| Tm_T | I know | 13:16 |
| Tm_T | but I'm so old! | 13:16 |
| Tm_T | even my CV says I'm 113 years old | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | omg | 13:20 |
| Riddell | Depends: python-qt4, python-kde4 (<< 4:4.1.96-0ubuntu1.1~) huh? | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | what is our status of libmsn in ibex? | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: I threw network up for a rebuild because we forgot to re-add libmsn support when we backported | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | Tm_T: ^ | 13:31 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: ahhh | 13:31 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: ah thanks | 13:31 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: we had a flood of questions in #kubuntu because of that =) | 13:32 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: we have newest hottest svn libmsn? | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah yeah.... :P | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 13:32 |
| Tm_T | well, then it might break | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | rly? | 13:32 |
| Tm_T | well, it doesn't handle url forwards properly | 13:33 |
| JontheEchidna | doh | 13:33 |
| Tm_T | so if MSN servers does it again, it's broken | 13:33 |
| Tm_T | as recently happened | 13:33 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: thanks | 13:33 |
| * vorian runs away for a few hours | 13:33 | |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: uno momento... | 13:34 |
| Riddell | libmsn beta 3 was ment to be out yesterday | 13:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and you are calling perfectionist :) | 13:34 |
| Tonio_ | calling "me" :) | 13:35 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hmm, _salem haven't mentioned, I'll ask | 13:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll get that fixed upstream and will repackage then :) | 13:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we have time to get those in the archives... | 13:36 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I don't have amd64 here, so I can't check it, but I think we may have somehow got a circular build-dep between kde4bindings and kdebase-workspace. | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | bindings builds just fine | 13:38 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: upstream already have a COPYING file but the tars are only part of the repository so you need to make tars with the COPYING file in them | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Err. not build-dep, but depends. | 13:38 |
| JontheEchidna | Tm_T: by the looks of it nhandler copied over a kdenetwork that has msn support a few hours ago | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I don't see any in the bzr diff | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: got it | 13:38 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: But then it wants to install something from workspace that isn't built yet. | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would you recommend to just patch or rebuild the tarballs ? | 13:39 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: hmm, libmsn release tonight | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: wouldn't it whine about that? | 13:39 |
| ScottK | Which is why python-kde4 isn't installable. | 13:39 |
| Riddell | apt-get build-dep kdebase-workspace works fine in my AMD64 chroot | 13:39 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: rebuild then tars | 13:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'd say rebuilding, but as the policy is very flexible on that point... | 13:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Can you install python-kde4 there? | 13:39 |
| JontheEchidna | Tm_T: probably going to need to update that then rebuild kdenetwork | 13:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yes and python-kde4-dev | 13:39 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: indeed | 13:39 |
| ScottK | OK. It's officially weird then. | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | maybe the buildds are broken :P | 13:40 |
| ScottK | Last night nixternal couldn't install it. Maybe something fixed in the meantime. | 13:40 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: We know they're broken, they're part of Launchpad. | 13:40 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | poor launchpad always gets a beating | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I think it was a publishing problem | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | pykde4 is arch any and -dev is arch all IIRC | 13:42 |
| Riddell | I'm doing a rebuild of kdebase-workspace on amd64 for luck | 13:42 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: so we are still without bluetooth in KDE, roight? | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | if someone feels like uploading && testing: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu | 13:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: That's correct. | 13:43 |
| * apachelogger is in a meeting right now | 13:43 | |
| Riddell | Tm_T: best try asking in #kdebluetooth | 13:45 |
| vorian | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104835/ That is in my clean pbuilder | 13:45 |
| vorian | amd64 | 13:45 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ooh, there's that kind of channel too, thanks | 13:45 |
| * vorian is waiting too | 13:45 | |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: did you push fixed Qt to intrepid or somewhere? | 13:47 |
| JontheEchidna | nope, got distracted | 13:48 |
| JontheEchidna | :-( | 13:48 |
| Tm_T | JontheEchidna: np, just wondering | 13:48 |
| Riddell | what needed fixed? | 13:48 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: patch added from qt-copy | 13:48 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: clearFocus crash patch | 13:48 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: already in jaunty | 13:48 |
| JontheEchidna | 0260 by qt-copy numbering | 13:48 |
| Tm_T | so it's about backporting I guess | 13:49 |
| JontheEchidna | me doesn't have time to do it right now | 13:52 |
| * JontheEchidna doesn't have time to do it right now | 13:52 | |
| Tonio_ | torkiano: is kcall for kde4 correctly maintained ? | 13:56 |
| Tonio_ | no news or announcement on the website since 2008/07... | 13:56 |
| * ScottK relaxes and enjoys the complaints on #amarok about Fedora needing to update their packages .... | 13:59 | |
| Tm_T | haha | 14:00 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: btw, we beat suse to 4.1.96 too ^_^ | 14:01 |
| * ScottK also wonders how NCommander is doing on kde4libs qreal fixoring. | 14:01 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Not yet on amd64. | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | and who's fault is that? | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | right, launchpads :P | 14:02 |
| JontheEchidna | closed-source soyuz's, to be specific | 14:02 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | closed-source python soyuz's :P | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | that said | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | someone take kubuntu-dev-tools for a test ride | 14:04 |
| * apachelogger did theoretical changes again | 14:04 | |
| JontheEchidna | it's one component they're not gonna open source when LP goes open source | 14:04 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Which means it's not actually going open source. | 14:04 |
| * ScottK does wonder if it's for business reasons or to avoid embarassment. | 14:05 | |
| apachelogger | well, if you find a good enough chain of security leaks you can easy enough poision the whole ubuntu archive I guess | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | any other reason than that would be embarassing itself :P | 14:06 |
| ScottK | It's built off of the Debian tools which seem to go OK (except once) in that regard. | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | debian's it not connected to the rest of launchpad though ;-) | 14:07 |
| ScottK | Well soyuz isn't particularly. The integration bits (bugs closed in changelog for example) Debian typically has too. | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | O.o | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | I"m getting kdesdk updates from an intrepid ppa on my jaunty mahcine | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | haha, openoffice just killed the lead marketing dude's laptopb | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | <3 work meetings | 14:09 |
| roccolord | please rebuild kmail with http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=908525 fix, as it doesn't work well with certain imap folder | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | please repot a bug, as we don't have builtin bug tracking systems. thank you. | 14:10 |
| * Riddell retries kdesdk on jaunty | 14:10 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I guess it also failed due to pykde? | 14:10 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, that's probably why, kdesdk ftbfs | 14:10 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no, mysql | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | how does sdk relate to mysql? | 14:11 |
| Riddell | libsvn brings in something which brings in libmysqlclient-dev | 14:11 |
| Riddell | which should be 5.0 but got overwritten by mysql 5.1 when it shouldn't have | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | mysql is everywhere it seems | 14:11 |
| Riddell | certainly is | 14:11 |
| ScottK | This concerns me. | 14:12 |
| * ScottK is not a super duper database expert. | 14:12 | |
| roccolord | apachelogger: where should bugs agains 4.2rc packages for intrepid be reported? | 14:12 |
| Tm_T | mySQL isn't that good anymore, since Monty isn't leading | 14:12 |
| * ScottK has been involved in projects with people who had a REALLY deep understanding of RDBMS stuff. | 14:12 | |
| ScottK | They always picked postgresql over mysql. | 14:13 |
| * ScottK hopes it all works out. | 14:13 | |
| Tm_T | ScottK: indeed | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | roccolord: there is a project for it ... but you can report it against the regular package, since it is an upstream issue and thus applies to both intrepid and jaunty anyway | 14:13 |
| Sput | postgres scales much better | 14:13 |
| roccolord | apachelogger: OK thanks. | 14:13 |
| Tm_T | yay! we are smarter now! | 14:14 |
| * Tm_T hides | 14:14 | |
| Riddell | postgres presumably isn't as easy to use embedded in the way that apps now need it | 14:14 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 14:14 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: hows qt 4.5 coming on? | 14:14 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: no luck here, I ran out of skills and time with it | 14:15 |
| Riddell | debian updated packaging for 4.5 | 14:15 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: did you pass it on to someone? is anyone working on it? | 14:15 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: have to look that, thanks | 14:15 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: apachelogger (: | 14:15 |
| Riddell | in svn.debian.org somewhere | 14:15 |
| Riddell | jussi01: Qt is feeling more permissive today :) | 14:15 |
| * apachelogger needs to shoot himself | 14:15 | |
| Tm_T | Riddell: aye, have to look at how they do it | 14:15 |
| * Riddell takes apachelogger's gun away | 14:16 | |
| apachelogger | meh | 14:16 |
| * apachelogger has to do UNO coding for the rest of the month | 14:16 | |
| jussi01 | Riddell: :) | 14:16 |
| * ScottK has an extra deck of Uno cards around here somewhere. | 14:16 | |
| apachelogger | not that kind of uno | 14:16 |
| ScottK | Harry Potter theme I think. | 14:16 |
| * jussi01 is happy then... sooner we get qt 4.5, the sooner we get konq + webkit + flash | 14:16 | |
| apachelogger | the ooo uno | 14:16 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Main Archive: frozen for alpha-3 | Test Upgrading! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidKDE42Upgrades | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySpecs | Qt: now even more permissive | ||
| Tm_T | jussi01: indeed | 14:16 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: =) | 14:17 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I know, but misunderstanding is more fun. | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | nothing about uno is fun | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | _nothing_ | 14:17 |
| smarter | heya | 14:17 |
| * smarter has more troubles than ever with his connection | 14:17 | |
| * smarter is interested in qt 4.5 :] | 14:17 | |
| apachelogger | smarter: is it running uno? | 14:17 |
| Tm_T | smarter: so am I | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | corba is more fun than uno | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | and it is documented | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, nhandler: please rebuild $plasmoids if possible | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: ScottK and vorian did so last night | 14:30 |
| ScottK-laptop | apachelogger: They're all done. We just need to wait for NCommander to fix armel so we can retry every stinking one of them. | 14:32 |
| Riddell | "sebas-kde extended their membership" yay sebas still loves us | 14:32 |
| sebas | Of course I do :) | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: intrepid | 14:32 |
| sebas | Riddell: thanks for the Dot post btw | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: we've done all the ones in the ppa | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | rsibreak, quickaccess | 14:33 |
| * apachelogger hands cookies to Riddell and sebas | 14:33 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ok, just read a bug report about ABI borkage crash | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | not that I care though :P | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | the ones from the intrepid main repos should be removed since they need libplasma2 | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | *intrepid universe, | 14:34 |
| JontheEchidna | in a proper upgrade libplasma2 is removed | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | yay | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | kmail crash | 14:35 |
| smarter | oh my, you get offline 6 hours and next thing you know, qt goes lgpl | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: I'm getting tomorrow this kind of wintercoat: http://www.varusteleka.eu/prebeo/pictures/2534.jpg | 14:39 |
| ScottK | So I'm testing a quassel package that all you have to do is connect to freenode (pre-loaded - just click connect) and you land in #kubuntu. | 14:39 |
| ScottK | Works. | 14:39 |
| ScottK | Sput: ^^^ - You can put a check in the box by that one. | 14:39 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: super! | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: doesn't look very lady-like | 14:41 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: either do I, son | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | true, mom | 14:42 |
| * Tm_T is old sportslady from DDR | 14:42 | |
| Tm_T | moustache and all | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | rofl | 14:43 |
| Sput | \o/ | 14:51 |
| ScottK | Sput: Do you have a sense for if you are going to do any more client <-> core protocol incompatible changes before 0.4 release? | 14:55 |
| Sput | I'll relay that question | 14:55 |
| Tm_T | Sput: Quassel, right? | 14:56 |
| ScottK | Sput: Thanks. | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | h | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: we are being redundant :P | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | we are? | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | aye | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: also commented on the kstart bug | 14:57 |
| Sput | Tm_T: yeah | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: quick bug resolution ftw | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | ok | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | seriously | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: stop that | 14:59 |
| * apachelogger just commented on the kgamma bug | 14:59 | |
| Tm_T | stop what? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | luckily konqueror ate it | 14:59 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I commented on that like an hour ago o.O | 14:59 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, amarok 2.0 got kubuntu-bugs down to 1587 bugs | 14:59 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I have reduced time experience | 15:00 |
| * apachelogger is high on caffaine and listening to loads of marketing analysis | 15:00 | |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 15:00 |
| JontheEchidna | that Gerald dude is weird | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | *Gerard | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: just commented | 15:04 |
| ScottK | yesterday's quassel snapshot uploaded to Jaunty and my ppa for Intrepid. | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Sput: ^^ | 15:06 |
| * JontheEchidna is wondering what abi-incompatible plasmoids there are for intrepid | 15:06 | |
| Sput | ScottK: cooool, thx :) | 15:06 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: At a guess, all of them. | 15:06 |
| ScottK | At least without a rebuild. | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: we rebuilt the libplasma3-compatible ones we offer in the ppa | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | all others should be libplasma2 ones that are removed upon upgrading to libplasma3 | 15:07 |
| ScottK | But I don't think we did them all. | 15:07 |
| ScottK | Some of the libplamsa2 ones could be updated | 15:07 |
| ScottK | KDE commit 91098 | 15:07 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: they enabled the super-busted knetworkconf kcm module :/ | 15:08 |
| * ScottK thought we had a bot that knew those. | 15:08 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: complete with crystalsvg icon fail | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | v.v | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | we are there again | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | there is stuff I don't care about | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | and there is stuff I didn't know I could not care about | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | clearly the latter again | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | why the kdenetwork maintainer even lets knetworkconf getting released isn't clear to me | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | like not at all | 15:10 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 15:12 |
| JontheEchidna | iirc, the bug report about the epic fail hasn't even been touched | 15:12 |
| smarter | people are actually maintaining kdenetwork? :P | 15:12 |
| * apachelogger pokes smarter in the eye | 15:13 | |
| apachelogger | krdc is a decent app again | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | kopete is also getting there | 15:13 |
| smarter | oh right | 15:13 |
| smarter | it rocks | 15:13 |
| smarter | they both rocks actually | 15:13 |
| smarter | *rock even | 15:13 |
| JontheEchidna | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163578 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 163578 in general "KDE 4 1 knetworkconf gives "Could not parse the XML file" error" [Normal,New] | 15:14 |
| smarter | we should probably disable it in systemsettings | 15:14 |
| JontheEchidna | it was disabled before due to a bug in the .desktop file | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | aye | 15:15 |
| smarter | hehe | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | how about dropping the package? | 15:15 |
| smarter | also, something I was thinking about earlier, couldn't we integrate our various config apps into systemsettings? | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | there might be enough info in the KDE bug to actually fix it | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | not worth | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | fixing the xml is pretty easy actually | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | but then starts the real fun, because the actual scripts are as broken | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | in both cases it's wrong parsing of $something IIRC | 15:16 |
| smarter | at least jockey, and the printer applet config | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | smarter: JontheEchidna is working on jockey | 15:17 |
| JontheEchidna | smarter: both are being worked on | 15:17 |
| ScottK | smarter: I think all it takes is someone to do the work. | 15:17 |
| smarter | they're hard to find with the kickoff menu imho | 15:17 |
| smarter | cool | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | talking about work | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | can we please do a bug triage weekend or something? | 15:17 |
| * apachelogger thinks about closing bugs he can't understand | 15:18 | |
| apachelogger | oh funnies | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it appears knetworkconf gets dragged in on jaunty | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | no clue by what though | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Reverse Depends: | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | ichthux-desktop | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | kdeadmin | 15:20 |
| * JontheEchidna is really puzzled now | 15:21 | |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: maybe it somehow was added to the CD seed | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | maybeh | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: more redundency | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | lol | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | though the samba authentication works for me (tm) | 15:23 |
| JontheEchidna | System Settings -> Sharing | 15:23 |
| JontheEchidna | trying to find that is how I stumbled upon knetworkconf | 15:23 |
| * apachelogger also thinks about shooting everyone who subscribes ubuntu-core-dev to a bug | 15:24 | |
| JontheEchidna | lmao @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/259181/comments/13 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 259181 in kdebase-workspace "KDM background image not displayed correctly on low resolution display" [Low,Triaged] | 15:25 |
| * JontheEchidna away for a bit | 15:27 | |
| delicowa | i already own a launchpad account.thats cos i wanna start helping out with kde.....how do i get assigned to tasks | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | delicowa: by signing up to them ;-) | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | delicowa: also, what kind of tasks? | 15:32 |
| delicowa | bug fixing documentations and stuffs | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | "stuffs" is not very precise ;-) | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | anyway, gotta go, or I'll miss the train | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | bbiab | 15:35 |
| delicowa | found what i was looking for wiki.ubuntu.com | 15:37 |
| ScottK | 4.1.4 is now fully built on i386. After the next publisher run it ought to be fully installable. | 15:50 |
| ScottK | amd64 has a long ways to go. I just retried all the archive skew induced FTBFS. | 15:50 |
| Riddell | thanks | 15:52 |
| Riddell | kdebase-workspace built in jaunty on amd64, yay | 15:54 |
| ScottK | |\O/ | 15:56 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Any idea why it didn't build before? soyuz insanity? | 15:56 |
| Riddell | because kdebase-runtime hadn't built on amd64 yet, soyuz could really do with being more intelligent about that | 15:57 |
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| ScottK | rgreening: How's kvirc going? | 16:06 |
| ScottK | seele: Updated quassel in Jaunty or my PPA for Intrepid has their provide a default channel (#kubuntu) implementation in it. Might be worth a U/I review since that's one of the major things we wanted. | 16:07 |
| * ScottK looks at Debian Bug #511169 and considers apachelogger should send a patch .... | 16:13 | |
| ubottu | Debian bug 511169 in quassel "quassel: SSL support is missing for the core" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/511169 | 16:13 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: so is quassel now got a monolithic package around? | 16:15 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Yes. quassel is the monolithic one. | 16:16 |
| ScottK | There is also quassel-client and quassel-core. | 16:16 |
| LaserJock | ok, I think I installed -client and -core | 16:16 |
| ScottK | That will behave slightly differently (not look integrated). | 16:17 |
| LaserJock | I couldn't figure it out | 16:17 |
| ScottK | If we go with quassel as the default IRC client, only quassel will be in Main/on the CD. | 16:18 |
| ScottK | So it should sort itself. | 16:18 |
| ScottK | mostly ... | 16:18 |
| LaserJock | ah | 16:18 |
| LaserJock | well the short descriptions are all the same, it was hard to tell what was what | 16:19 |
| ScottK | They aren't any more. | 16:19 |
| LaserJock | i assumed quassel was just a metapackage to get the client/server pulled in | 16:19 |
| * ScottK fixed them up a bit on the upload over the weekend. | 16:19 | |
| seele | ScottK: how is the default channel configured? config file? or did they have to add a script? | 16:19 |
| ScottK | seele: Config file that I patched for us. | 16:20 |
| seele | ok cool | 16:20 |
| ScottK | Upstream pulled all the nepomuk stuff out of bindings: http://pastebin.com/f63a4dcb2 | 16:27 |
| vorian | \o/ | 16:28 |
| rgreening | ScottK: hopefully wil get a chance to post today/tomorrow. Bogged with $WORK atm | 16:29 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Great. No rush. | 16:29 |
| rgreening | kk | 16:29 |
| * ScottK decides to try 4.1.4. | 16:31 | |
| * ScottK decided to wait another publisher run .... | 16:37 | |
| EagleScreen | LCD Weather Station plasmoid cause Plasma to crash | 16:38 |
| EagleScreen | in 4.1.95 | 16:38 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, it's a Qt bug that needs patched | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | stupid Qt! | 16:40 |
| EagleScreen | i have a workaround to use it without crashing | 16:40 |
| EagleScreen | you set it on Plasma desktop, you configure it, then, woithout pass the mouse over the gidwet, Lock Widgets | 16:41 |
| EagleScreen | after that you can unlock widgets and move or resize LCD gidget woithout crasing | 16:42 |
| JontheEchidna | then that's definitely the Qt focus crash | 16:42 |
| nixternal | PLEASE NO MORE SNOW!!! | 16:43 |
| * JontheEchidna gets off his ass and prepares an SRU | 16:43 | |
| seele | nixternal: you win. hehe | 16:44 |
| nixternal | we have around 2 feet right now on the ground and it is still falling | 16:44 |
| nixternal | tomorrows high == -2c, low == -20c, windchill is supposed to be anywhere from -36c to -50c with blizzard conditions starting tonight | 16:45 |
| nixternal | my ears hurt, my head hurts...I hurt | 16:45 |
| seele | nixternal: and you still dont want to move to DC? | 16:45 |
| nixternal | I am thinking Cuba | 16:45 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: that's winter, nothing more | 16:45 |
| EagleScreen | isn there any repository with Kpackagekit to install it in Kubuntu? | 16:46 |
| vorian | ScottK: the way mysql 5.1 was built will render amarok useless | 16:55 |
| ScottK | vorian: We need to fix it then. Let's talk to zul and mathiaz in #ubuntu-server. | 16:56 |
| LaserJock | vorian: ? this mysql/amarok thing is a real mess | 16:56 |
| vorian | ok | 16:56 |
| vorian | LaserJock: yep | 16:56 |
| vorian | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104894/ | 16:57 |
| vorian | the problem is they are not building the two binaries from 5.1 that amarok needs | 16:58 |
| vorian | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104892/ something is missing ... | 17:05 |
| Riddell | vorian: amarok shouldn't need binaries I thought | 17:05 |
| vorian | the libraries | 17:06 |
| Riddell | surely the .a file is in libmysqlclient16-dev | 17:09 |
| Riddell | ? | 17:09 |
| vorian | Riddell: i'm going over the mysql source now | 17:09 |
| ScottK | Should be. | 17:09 |
| ScottK | vorian: debc $BINARYCHANGESFILE.changes is a good, quick way to see what's installed where. | 17:10 |
| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| ScottK | 4.1.4 kdepim binaries did land on archive.ubuntu.com after the last publisher run (it was the last package built), so off I go to 4.1.4. | 17:13 |
| * vorian tries sommiet else | 17:15 | |
| vorian | ok | 17:20 |
| vorian | the libriaries we need are in libmysqlclient-dev - which is not built at present with 5.1 | 17:21 |
| * vorian wonders if if building libmysqlclient5.1-dev would be an option | 17:22 | |
| Riddell | vorian: libmysqlclient-dev was only ever a dunno package in 5.1, if they're not in libmysqlclient16-dev they can be put there easily enough | 17:22 |
| vorian | ok Riddell :) | 17:23 |
| Riddell | s/dunno/dummy/ | 17:23 |
| smarter | sommiet? :p | 17:23 |
| vorian | smarter: something | 17:23 |
| ScottK | 175 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 30 not upgraded. Need to get 410MB of archives. <-- 4.1.4. | 17:28 |
| LaserJock | 30 not upgraded? | 17:29 |
| Riddell | I do wish it would hurry up and compile on amd64 | 17:30 |
| * apachelogger wishes for more love | 17:31 | |
| * DaSkreech loves apachelogger | 17:32 | |
| * apachelogger hugs DaSkreech and hands him a cookie | 17:37 | |
| * DaSkreech nomnomnomnoms | 17:38 | |
| * apachelogger also hands poor JontheEchidna a cookie | 17:38 | |
| jussi01 | !helpersnack | apachelogger | 17:38 |
| ubottu | apachelogger: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 17:38 |
| * apachelogger is primarily freezing | 17:39 | |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: do you not have heating? | 17:39 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger is Hawt all by himself ask his groupies | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | today I am primarily freezing and grumpy | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | mostly due to bug 89591 | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 89591 in amarok "Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89591 | 17:41 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 17:42 |
| * Nightrose hugs apachelogger and gives him a cookie | 17:44 | |
| Nightrose | good reply | 17:44 |
| * apachelogger munches le cookie | 17:45 | |
| DaSkreech | Ha ha KDE as a cover mocel | 17:45 |
| DaSkreech | model | 17:45 |
| apachelogger | it does? | 17:45 |
| DaSkreech | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/kde-linux-formats-free-software-project.html | 17:46 |
| DaSkreech | How'd you like to pose apachelogger? :) | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | certainly could do that | 17:48 |
| * ScottK reboots. | 17:48 | |
| * claydoh gives apachelogger a dozen cookies and a nice beverage of his choice for that reply | 17:49 | |
| NCommander | apachelogger, ScottK, Riddell: ENEEDSPONSOR | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | ~order tea, earl grey, hot | 17:49 |
| * kubotu is replicating a hot cup of earl grey for captain apachelogger. | 17:49 | |
| * apachelogger hugs claydoh and NCommander | 17:49 | |
| * claydoh gives everyone else a dozen cookies, but no drink :) | 17:49 | |
| apachelogger | NCommander: but why? | 17:49 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, I got kde4libs on ARM | 17:49 |
| NCommander | Need sponsor | 17:49 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Just rebooting into 4.1.4. If no one else gets it and this works, I'll do it. | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | are we in hard or soft freeze? | 17:50 |
| NCommander | Patch kubuntu_01_no_translate_pc_dir.diff does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforce with -f) | 17:50 |
| NCommander | Oh, right freeze | 17:50 |
| NCommander | nm | 17:50 |
| NCommander | Ugh | 17:50 |
| NCommander | Who broke the build's clean rules | 17:50 |
| * apachelogger points at someone | 17:50 | |
| NCommander | Bugger ... | 17:52 |
| NCommander | Clean rule is *really* broken | 17:52 |
| Riddell | NCommander: that'll be the add translation domain to .desktop files issue | 17:53 |
| NCommander | Yeah, but it doesn't unapply cleanly | 17:53 |
| Riddell | it tries to unpatch before doing the necessary cleaning, I havn't worked out how to fix that | 17:53 |
| NCommander | So, ignore it? | 17:54 |
| Riddell | sh /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles LIST; for file in `cat LIST`; do sed -i '/X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=/d' ${file}; done | 17:54 |
| Riddell | NCommander: that should fix it ^^ | 17:54 |
| NCommander | Riddell, please just commit that fix to the SVN repo :-)? | 17:54 |
| NCommander | er BZR | 17:54 |
| NCommander | wow | 17:54 |
| NCommander | I'm out of it | 17:54 |
| Riddell | NCommander: what fix? it has to be run by hand | 17:55 |
| Riddell | that what kde4.mk runs, it just runs it at the wrong time | 17:55 |
| Riddell | or it does the patch removal at the wrong time | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: whom do we have to vote for TB position? | 18:00 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone uses yakuake? | 18:02 |
| * apachelogger is getting annoyed by it :P | 18:02 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: How do you feel about a freeze exception for kde4libs? | 18:02 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Kees or cjwatson. | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | well, whom of the two :P | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: that wouldn't make much sense, would it? | 18:02 |
| * ScottK is back on 4.1.4. | 18:03 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: libs without the other stuff doesn't have any advantage | 18:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: what's the rationale? so NCommander can get on with fixing more ARM stuff? | 18:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. | 18:03 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: No way to know what else is broken until we get that done. | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: sure, but we can as well do that on friday | 18:03 |
| ScottK | OTOH, we aren't at all close to having final Kubuntu CDs, so there's no real harm. | 18:04 |
| Riddell | I'm tempted to start spinning CDs and seeing what results | 18:05 |
| ScottK | I think spinning i386 live and alternate is reasonable right now. | 18:05 |
| Riddell | ScottK: well, fine with me but ask on #ubuntu-release since they might object to buildds being blocked | 18:06 |
| ScottK | OK. | 18:06 |
| ScottK | Will do. | 18:06 |
| * apachelogger finds that a reasonable objection | 18:06 | |
| NCommander | ScottK, kde4libs-0ubuntu2 is on its way to my PPA | 18:06 |
| ScottK | NCommander: We need to wait for the Alpha freeze to end. | 18:10 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I know, I'm using the opportunity to rebuild in pbuilder ;-) | 18:11 |
| ScottK | So far 4.1.4 seems reasonably good. The only issue I'm having that could be a regression are some odd edge effects in Firefox that I find very distracting. | 18:39 |
| ScottK | http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/edge-effects.pdf gives you an idea. | 18:39 |
| ScottK | Suggestions on what might cause that? | 18:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've always had that with the gtk-qt4-engine | 18:41 |
| vorian | me too | 18:41 |
| vorian | i use qtcuve in my gtk style | 18:42 |
| vorian | it solves the problem nicely | 18:42 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 18:43 |
| * ScottK tries. | 18:43 | |
| ScottK | Ah. I remember now. | 18:44 |
| * ScottK clicked on the little 'install scrollbar fix' in system settings and this is my first restart since. | 18:44 | |
| ScottK | vorian: qtcurve is better. Thanks. | 18:49 |
| ScottK | Riddell: So no obvious regressions in 4.1.4. It feels faster. That might just be because I hadn't rebooted for weeks. | 18:49 |
| apachelogger | Do we get a "I voted" sticker thingy of some sort? | 18:51 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: No, but you get a string of random numbers | 18:52 |
| DaSkreech | 4.2 RC1 breaks yakuake | 18:54 |
| DaSkreech | ish | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | nhandler: yah, sure, random, ubuntu ... haha :P | 18:54 |
| claydoh | DaSkreech: how does it break? I haven't noticed anything yet | 18:55 |
| Riddell | ScottK: excellent, thanks | 18:55 |
| DaSkreech | ^shiftL | 18:55 |
| Riddell | this live CD seems to work but also seems to have an old KDE on it, I wonder if it rebuilt at all | 18:56 |
| claydoh | DaSkreech: ahh oh yeah | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: what does shiftL do? | 18:56 |
| DaSkreech | ^shift | 18:57 |
| DaSkreech | Same thing as Konqui | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | means? | 18:57 |
| DaSkreech | Ctrl+Shift | 18:57 |
| Riddell | Konsole seems to be defaulting to a nasty dark grey on light grey | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: I don't get the problem | 18:57 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: Splits the window into two konsoles one of them is messed up | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/print.pdf is that a win? | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: oh | 18:58 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: oh dear... - he's never going to understand it is he? | 19:01 |
| ScottK | Sput: I haz bug 4 U: http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/show/485 | 19:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 4 in rosetta "Importing finished po doesn't change progressbar" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4 | 19:01 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: and nice font you got there ;-) | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | well, not for all the desktop | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | looks good for mails though | 19:01 |
| Riddell | "phonon-backend-null: Conflicts: phonon-backend" humph | 19:04 |
| allee | Tonio: what is with digikam? | 19:05 |
| \sh | sounds like, that you all running jaunty already ,-) | 19:09 |
| * nhandler just went back to intrepid | 19:09 | |
| ScottK | \sh: I just upgraded to 4.1.4 in intrepid-proposed. | 19:09 |
| * ScottK tosses nhandler some intrepid-proposed for SRU verification. | 19:10 | |
| \sh | ah..sadly I can't run proposed here @office.../me needs a working station | 19:10 |
| nhandler | ScottK: Any particular package? | 19:10 |
| ScottK | nhandler: All of KDE 4.1.4 (assuming you're on i386. amd64 is still bulding) | 19:11 |
| nhandler | Yeah, I'm on i386. Would apt like the backports? I just installed 4.1.96 from k-e yesterday | 19:11 |
| * \sh is cursing customers, to not let him go home... | 19:12 | |
| ScottK | nhandler: If you've already install 4.2, then nevermind. | 19:12 |
| === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander | ||
| vorian | apachelogger: pingaling | 20:35 |
| * DaSkreech laughs | 20:36 | |
| seele | Riddell: do you still manage planet.kde.org? | 20:49 |
| DaSkreech | yes he does | 20:50 |
| DaSkreech | For some degree of manage | 20:50 |
| seele | Riddell: can you add my twitter? I never got my svn account fixed: http://twitter.com/celestelynpaul | 20:50 |
| DaSkreech | there is a twitter section of the planet? | 20:52 |
| seele | yes | 20:53 |
| DaSkreech | Sweet. Solely twitter or would dents etc go there as well | 20:54 |
| torkiano | Tonio_: Sorry for the delay; I don't know, the other day Ridell said that he'd ask hunger (KCall/decibel developer) | 21:07 |
| torkiano | I already ask in #decibel channel, but nobody answer :( | 21:07 |
| LaserJock | hmm, so I still can't get Jaunty to log in | 21:39 |
| LaserJock | plasma doesn't start as far as I know, grepping for plasma gives nothing | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | vorian: pongaling | 21:42 |
| DaSkreech | LaserJock: start from xterm | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | LaserJock: all upgraded? | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | the ABI breakage caused some plasmoids to take plasma down | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | that should be fixed by now though | 21:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: He's on amd64. Is it built yet? | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | I think jr said earlier that it is | 21:43 |
| LaserJock | DaSkreech: I can't use X as far as I know | 21:44 |
| Riddell | seele: your twitter is public now? | 21:44 |
| LaserJock | apachelogger: yeah, all upgraded | 21:44 |
| LaserJock | I mv'd my .kde and everything | 21:45 |
| DaSkreech | LaserJock: X& doesn't work ? | 21:45 |
| LaserJock | let me see | 21:45 |
| LaserJock | umm, no | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | X& doesn't work | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! | 21:46 |
| seele | Riddell: yes | 21:48 |
| LaserJock | well, I don't get why X& won't work | 21:50 |
| Riddell | seele: Celeste Paul or Celeste Lyn Paul? | 21:50 |
| LaserJock | kdm starts fine | 21:50 |
| DaSkreech | Might look into that | 21:50 |
| DaSkreech | seele: Is there a date btw ? | 21:50 |
| seele | DaSkreech: a date of what? | 21:51 |
| seele | Riddell: CLP please | 21:51 |
| seele | er.. Celeste Lyn Paul heh | 21:51 |
| DaSkreech | seele: picking up the last deposit on the ring | 21:51 |
| seele | DaSkreech: huh? | 21:51 |
| DaSkreech | Didn't you get engaged? | 21:51 |
| seele | yes? | 21:51 |
| DaSkreech | Did you get married already? | 21:52 |
| seele | no | 21:52 |
| DaSkreech | Is there a date for that? | 21:52 |
| seele | yes, next september | 21:52 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 21:52 |
| DaSkreech | Thanks :) | 21:52 |
| * seele blinks | 21:52 | |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech clearly wants to get invited ;-) | 21:52 |
| DaSkreech | Are there cookies? | 21:52 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 21:52 |
| seele | DaSkreech: there will be more than cookies. my parents are going a bit crazy over the thing | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | I am not invited, so no cookies ... though maybe I am in a good mood that day and stuff some through the freenode servers ;-) | 21:53 |
| DaSkreech | ha ha of course they are | 21:53 |
| seele | DaSkreech: no. you dont understand. there is construction going on. | 21:53 |
| seele | *that* crazy | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 21:53 |
| DaSkreech | :-D | 21:53 |
| DaSkreech | Should I get control of the mars robots to get a snapshot from space? | 21:53 |
| DaSkreech | There is china that's upper africa that's seele's reception and that small dot it's over shadowing is Vegas | 21:54 |
| apachelogger | that just made me think of the oxygen under-construction icon being all over the place and made me smile | 21:54 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well I found a bug and a lot of the comments blame KDE, but that's kinda odd | 21:54 |
| seele | DaSkreech: there are satellite photos but they are from a few years ago and not very nice | 21:54 |
| DaSkreech | We shall arrange a commit for marble on the day | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | LaserJock: bug is an unkown variable or method :P | 21:55 |
| LaserJock | is there a way to get X to spit out an xorg.conf? I'd like to try vesa | 21:57 |
| * apachelogger doesn't know | 21:57 | |
| apachelogger | LaserJock: but what is that bug? | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | or where | 21:57 |
| LaserJock | bug #256142 | 21:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256142 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Flickering with version 2.4.0" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256142 | 21:58 |
| Riddell | seele: added, should appear in a few minutes if you've twittered anything recently | 21:58 |
| seele | Riddell: yay, thanks | 21:58 |
| seele | Riddell++ | 21:58 |
| seele | ~karma Riddell | 21:58 |
| kubotu | karma for Riddell: 4 | 21:58 |
| seele | lol | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | ~karma JontheEchidna | 21:59 |
| kubotu | karma for JontheEchidna: 8 | 21:59 |
| seele | someone take the bot away from me! | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | seele: no worries, I turned of the uno game :P | 21:59 |
| seele | apachelogger: there was uno? and i missed it?! | 21:59 |
| nhandler | ##uno ;) | 21:59 |
| apachelogger | seele: no, I turned it off when I did the intial setup ... which I regretted yesterday because I was in an uno mood | 22:00 |
| apachelogger | that mood is gone, now that I have to do uno hacking again :| | 22:00 |
| DaSkreech | markov | 22:01 |
| DaSkreech | ~markov | 22:01 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help markov' | 22:01 |
| DaSkreech | Blast | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | LaserJock: IIRC our X/intel driver is patched so that it causes rendering gltiches ... I could imagine that bug was related to that | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | then again the patch wasn't removed anyway AFAIK | 22:01 |
| ScottK | Did we build amarok for Intrepid for 4.2 or 4.1/4.2? | 22:04 |
| LaserJock | well, maybe I'll try to install Alpha 3 | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: vorian is preparing an upload anyway as it seems to broken on amd due to mysql changes | 22:06 |
| ScottK | I thought that was Jaunty | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ah, intrepid for 4.1 | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: why do you ask? | 22:06 |
| ScottK | Discussion about crashing with 4.1.4 on #amarok | 22:07 |
| vorian | apachelogger: i just fixed our mysql problem | 22:07 |
| cbr | why is kwrite so slow? | 22:07 |
| cbr | selecting text is like uberslow | 22:08 |
| cbr | even writing sometimes lags | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | cbr: don't use monster docs | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | vorian: hwo so? | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | *how even | 22:09 |
| vorian | there was a slight error causing libmysqlclient16-dev to be an empty package | 22:09 |
| cbr | apachelogger: 100 lines is not monster, is it? | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | cbr: maybe not | 22:11 |
| DaSkreech | ~markov status | 22:11 |
| kubotu | markov is currently disabled | 22:11 |
| DaSkreech | Bah | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | cbr: question is .. does kate exhibit these issues as well? | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | DaSkreech: dood, I deactivated even uno | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | and that works like expected... unlike markov | 22:12 |
| DaSkreech | ~excuse | 22:12 |
| kubotu | sticktion | 22:12 |
| seele | ScottK: can i just update the quassel package or do i need a new -data package too? | 22:13 |
| cbr | uhuh, kate is slow too | 22:14 |
| ScottK | seele: Both | 22:14 |
| cbr | even scrolling the document is slow | 22:14 |
| ScottK | seele: The new ini file for networks is in -data | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | cbr: 4.1.x? | 22:15 |
| cbr | 4.1.96 | 22:15 |
| jussi01 | ~karma jussi01 | 22:15 |
| kubotu | karma for jussi01: -1 | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:15 |
| cbr | it was the same for .85 iirc | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | cbr: didn't notice anything similar ... what kind of document? | 22:15 |
| cbr | turning off compositing effects actually made it slower | 22:15 |
| seele | ScottK: ok | 22:15 |
| cbr | well, one was plain text, the other is html | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | cbr: very weird --- bugs.kde.org | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | report against katepart (ought to be part of kdelibs if not available itself) | 22:17 |
| cbr | just selecting makes the xorg process use like 75% cpu | 22:18 |
| cbr | while the kate process is only taking like 5 | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | maybe it is a graphics driver bug | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | cbr: jaunty or intrepid? | 22:20 |
| cbr | maybe | 22:20 |
| cbr | jaunty | 22:20 |
| * apachelogger finds it very likely to be graphics then | 22:20 | |
| cbr | i'm getting like 140 FPS @ glxgears as well | 22:20 |
| cbr | intel <3 | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | cbr: you might check with the kate devs | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | either the editor widget does some weird stuff your driver doesn't like or your driver is b0rked | 22:21 |
| ScottK | Is anyone fixoring kdesdk for Jaunty? | 22:21 |
| * ScottK looks at JontheEchidna.... | 22:21 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: still broken? | 22:21 |
| * apachelogger thought jr was triggering rebuilds earlier | 22:22 | |
| ScottK | FTBFS on all but amd64 due to a missing file. | 22:22 |
| ScottK | No idea how it build there. | 22:22 |
| ScottK | I don't think it's just a retry. | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | nah, doesn't look like one | 22:23 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how it built here | 22:23 | |
| ScottK | Different tarball? | 22:23 |
| * ScottK gotta run. | 22:23 | |
| apachelogger | no, looks like the .1 from the manpage disappeared | 22:23 |
| cbr | also, for some reason changing channels in screen+irssi in konsole takes a sensable amount of time.. | 22:26 |
| cbr | which is absurd, since it's a terminal app.. drawing shouldnt take a millisecond :p | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | it is a terminal emulator to be precise | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | cbr: that makes it sound even more like a graphics issue though | 22:27 |
| cbr | i found some cool experimental stuff at xorg-edgers.. too vary to try it out though :p | 22:28 |
| seele | Sput: whois broken? | 22:28 |
| cbr | s/vary/afraid | 22:29 |
| cbr | mostly because downgrading is such a pain in debian | 22:29 |
| jussi01 | seele: works in latest git here | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | ah | 22:31 |
| seele | hum.. i thought ScottK just packaged it fresh and hot | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, JontheEchidna: kdesdk-scripts is arch all ... and missing a .1 for cvsrevertlast | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | doesn't explain why it failed on lpia though | 22:31 |
| jussi01 | seele: are you not getting anything at all? | 22:31 |
| seele | jussi01: nope. not with /whois name or right clicking on name and selecting whois from the context menu | 22:32 |
| jussi01 | seele: I assume you are looking in the status buffer for the output? (basic question, but got to ask) | 22:33 |
| cbr | ah, screw it.. i'll try the experimental drm/intel/mesa stuff | 22:33 |
| cbr | here goes segfault | 22:34 |
| seele | jussi01: yes | 22:35 |
| seele | jussi01: that's the one on top of the current channel you are viewing right? | 22:35 |
| jussi01 | seele: the network name one | 22:35 |
| seele | there is no status buffer for it.. i'm clicking on it and nothing happens | 22:35 |
| seele | (double clicking) | 22:35 |
| jussi01 | seele: 1 sec | 22:36 |
| seele | jussi01: but the watch buffer above it should show it too.. it shows all activity | 22:36 |
| jussi01 | seele: no, it doesnt show activity stuff, joins parts mode changes etc | 22:37 |
| seele | oh, yeah i dunno | 22:38 |
| jussi01 | seele: http://imagebin.ca/view/ttR3Xq.html | 22:39 |
| seele | jussi01: i cant do that, clicking on Freenode just expands and collapses the tree widget | 22:40 |
| jussi01 | seele: really? thats supposed to be only when you click the + clicking the name should bring it up... | 22:41 |
| seele | double clicking on the label makes it expand and contract. no buffer window shows up with it is selected | 22:42 |
| seele | maybe it's just bork? | 22:42 |
| jussi01 | seele: curious. Im not using the monolithic build, but there shouldnt be any difference | 22:42 |
| Ramblurr | is there any chance an updated libkdcraw could be packaged for intrepid? | 22:46 |
| Ramblurr | it would solve this http://www.binaryelysium.com/images/libkdcraw_lameness.png | 22:47 |
| Ramblurr | bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkdcraw/+bug/228623 | 22:47 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 228623 in ufraw "Ufraw does not process Canon EOS 450D RAW files correctly." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:47 |
| Ramblurr | dcraw and ufraw have already been fixed | 22:47 |
| jussi01 | !backports | Ramblurr | 22:48 |
| ubottu | Ramblurr: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 22:48 |
| cbr | woow, UXA actually works with the packages from xorg-edgers | 22:48 |
| cbr | and DRI2 works.. i can see the glxgears in the 3d effects like it's supposed to be | 22:49 |
| cbr | glxgears fps went to 420.. not great but an increase | 22:49 |
| Ramblurr | jussi01: yes yes, i'm asking for a libkdcraw backport :) either 0.1.5 or 0.1.7 | 22:49 |
| cbr | selecting stuff is snappier now in kate | 22:58 |
| cbr | but it still takes time.. like it's something intensive.. it's selecting text :o | 22:59 |
| astromme-laptop | Anyone else having plasma crashes (4.2RC, 4.1.96) on amd64? | 23:06 |
| ScottK | seele: My git snapshot is from yesterday. I do test these things before I upload them. | 23:06 |
| ScottK | jussi01: What packages are you using? | 23:07 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: not using packages, git only | 23:07 |
| ScottK | jussi01: KDE integration enabled? | 23:08 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: of course | 23:08 |
| seele | ScottK: whois works for you? | 23:08 |
| ScottK | Also there are some differences now between -client and the monolithic package | 23:08 |
| ScottK | seele: Now it does. At times I've seemed to miss it and I don't know the difference. | 23:09 |
| vorian | \o/ | 23:09 |
| vorian | amarok has built! | 23:09 |
| ScottK | Actually no it doesn't. | 23:11 |
| ScottK | Gotta run | 23:11 |
| torkiano | seele: whois works for me with Scottk latest packages | 23:28 |
| seele | torkiano: hum.. | 23:29 |
| torkiano | seele: 0.4.0~git090113-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1 | 23:30 |
| seele | yep | 23:30 |
| torkiano | I use the monolithic client but i have already installed quassel-client | 23:31 |
| torkiano | seele: i've removed quassel-client and whois still works | 23:34 |
| torkiano | Intrepid here | 23:34 |
| seele | yeah.. intrepid here to | 23:35 |
| seele | i dont know what to say, it's not working | 23:35 |
| seele | did you remove .quassel? i didnt configure any channels. i clicked freenode in the file>networks menu and it took me directly to #kubuntu | 23:36 |
| seele | so maybe the freenode buffer isn't being created? | 23:36 |
| seele | (mono client) | 23:36 |
| torkiano | seele: I'm going to remove .quassel. See you soon | 23:37 |
| torkiano | seele: still works for me :/ | 23:40 |
| seele | torkiano: argh, well then nevermind if no one else's is broken but mine | 23:43 |
| seele | (that seems to happen a lot) | 23:43 |
| Lure | Ramblurr: willing to go withe kde4 beta? there is digikam-experimental PPA for digikam/kipi-plugins for Intrepid | 23:57 |
| Ramblurr | Lure: oo.. the kde4 digikam? | 23:57 |
| * Ramblurr is running kde-neon anyways | 23:57 | |
| Lure | Ramblurr: yes | 23:57 |
| ScottK | I thought we updated Jaunty to KDE4 digikam? | 23:58 |
| Lure | Ramblurr: you need kubuntu-experimental + digikam-experimental | 23:58 |
| Lure | ScottK: talking about interpid | 23:58 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 23:58 |
| ScottK | Don't mind me then. | 23:58 |
| Ramblurr | cool.. i already have kubuntu-experimental | 23:59 |
| Lure | Ramblurr: https://edge.launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive | 23:59 |
| * Ramblurr updates | 23:59 | |
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