[00:00] nhandler: can you add what just happened with the PPA copy to bug #225131 ? [00:00] Launchpad bug 225131 in soyuz "PPA copy package ought to allow viewing multiple pages of results" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225131 [00:00] I think that's the right bug === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [00:01] LaserJock: Sure thing [00:01] nhandler: thanks [00:02] ~kubotu help [00:02] help topics: 9 core modules: auth, basics, config, filters, httputil, irclog, remote, unicode, userdata; 40 plugins: alias, autoop, autorejoin, babel, bans, bar, botsnack, chanserv, debug, dns, eightball, excuse, factoids, host, iplookup, karma, keywords, lastfm, markov, modes, nickrecover, nickserv, q, quote, reaction, remind, ri, rot, rss, salut, script, search, seen, time, topic, translator, twitter, urban, usermodes, wserver [00:02] (help for more info) [00:02] ~eightball [00:02] hmm [00:02] I packaged a plasmoid, but I cannot upload to revu, because I do not know the authors full name. I mailed him, but got no answer, I cannot use a Nickname, can I? [00:02] ~kubotu eightball [00:02] ~kubuntu help karma [00:03] ~kubotu help karma [00:03] karma module: Listens to everyone's chat. ++/-- => increase/decrease karma for , karma for ? => show karma for , karmastats => show stats. Karma is a community rating system - only in-channel messages can affect karma and you cannot adjust your own. [00:03] ~kubuntu eightball [00:03] ~kubotu eightball [00:03] it didnt work.. [00:03] ~kubotu salut [00:03] good evening seele :) [00:03] NCommander: I don't remember for sure. Did you have a fix for kde4libs on armel yet? [00:03] ~karmastats [00:03] 225 items. Best: C (75); Worst: > (-23) [00:04] ScottK, no, because I had my computer ICe [00:04] ~urban kool-aid [00:04] Kool-aid (1/22+): the water of the ghettos " You want some kool-aid?" " Man you know I want some kool-aid" [00:04] no.. that's not what i want [00:04] ~kubotu help urban [00:04] NCommander: OK. I thought I remembered you said that went away. [00:04] urban [word] [n]: give the [n]th definition of [word] from urbandictionary.com. urbanday: give the word-of-the-day at urban [00:05] It just did today it seems [00:05] ~urban kool-aid 5 [00:05] kool-aid (5/22+): Propaganda brewed for mass consumption. E.g.: Bart drank the Bush administration's Kool-Aid about the war in Iraq, and got his ass pwned in... [00:05] there we go [00:05] ~urban kool-aid 3 [00:05] kool-aid (3/22+): The universal drink of the ghetto. comes in many flavors such as grape, cherry, blueberry etc, but known to the ghetto natives as red, purple etc. also used as a slang term to describe a situation. You all up in my kool-aid and don't even know the flavor. What kind of kool-aid do you want?... umm... [00:05] hmm.. that's not it [00:05] i want cult description of kool-aid [00:07] ~urban kubuntu [00:07] kubuntu (1/1): An integrated Linux distro with all the great features of Ubuntu, but based on the KDE desktop. A good thing about Kubuntu is that it is free and can be downloaded, used, and upgraded for no money at all. Kubuntu can be either run off of a liveboot CD, or installed. Kubuntu is a good OS for people w... I currently dual boot with Windows XP and Kubuntu. [00:07] NCommander: I guess something must have changed, pbuilder created a jaunty chroot this time. Although I have no clue what I did differently [00:09] i still dont get how karma works [00:09] ~karma Riddell [00:09] karma for Riddell: 2 [00:09] Riddell++ [00:09] ~karma Riddell [00:09] karma for Riddell: 3 [00:09] ah hah! [00:09] seele: It works just like that [00:09] i see.. so no love for seele [00:09] * Riddell suddely feels self improvement [00:09] ~karma seele++ [00:09] seele++ has neutral karma [00:09] neversfelde: hmm, not sure. Asking in #ubuntu-motu might be advisable [00:09] seele++ [00:10] ~karma seele [00:10] karma for seele: 2 [00:10] yay! [00:10] neversfelde: If you are unable to find it, and the author is not responding, the archive admins might still let it in [00:11] nhandler: thx, I will wait another day and then upload it. [00:14] ~karma neversfelde++ [00:14] neversfelde++ has neutral karma [00:14] neversfelde++ [00:14] ~karma neversfelde [00:14] karma for neversfelde: 2 [00:15] yay, +2 in 1ß seconds :) [00:15] * JontheEchidna reboots for full kde 4.2 goodness [00:15] * seele sighs [00:15] mine is bork. neon is good though [00:15] * neversfelde lost plasma on intrepid [00:16] * seele too [00:16] I'm kinda scared to try it now :( [00:16] Riddell: got your email.... really sorry for the issue... [00:16] Riddell: I have to take my time to do it correctly :) [00:17] Riddell: are the archives frozen actually ? I didn't get the second part of your email... [00:18] Tonio_: no, you won't until tomorrow, but it's ok you can just fix it and upload tonight [00:19] Riddell: hum.... 3 packages, 3 issues.... I may just be too tired to do things correctly today.... let's wait for tomorrow [00:19] Riddell: too many things in the work.... I shouldn't have missed the licencing issue, that's bad [00:20] Why didn't the second copy batch show up? [00:21] * nhandler goes to fix it [00:21] hrmm anothernegative for knetworkmanager -- no easy way to share a wired internet via the wireless card like on my wife's macbook :( [00:22] hehe [00:25] * ScottK asks 5 year old a question ... [00:25] where do babies come from? [00:25] Responses is, "Dad, I'm trying to color here." [00:25] sorry, hehe was for another channel :( [00:25] hehe [00:25] ScottK: lol did you ask her something mushy? [00:25] Unfortunately she takes lessons from her tennage sisters. [00:26] seele: Not mushy, just silly. [00:27] ~twitter seele status [00:27] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' [00:27] ~twitter status seele [00:27] enjoys a drink after returning from new york :/ (3 months, 3 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes and 24 seconds ago via web) [00:27] In other news I blew my several week streak of not getting pissed off about Launchpad/LP developers. [00:27] wtf i dont remember going to new york [00:27] [18:42:19] BTW, I don't accept that people managing to develop a really slow web tool gives them any particular expertise about Linux distro development. [00:27] wow 3 months 3 days 4 hours 11 minutes and 24 second s ago :) [00:28] ~kubotu help twitter [00:28] twitter status [nick] => show nick's (or your) status, use 'twitter friends status [nick]' to also show the friends' timeline | twitter update [status] => updates your status on twitter | twitter identify [username] [password] => ties your nick to your twitter username and password | twitter actions [on|off] => enable/disable twitting of actions (/me does ...) [00:28] ScottK: that's an interesting comment [00:28] it's also true [00:28] agreeed [00:29] Someone on #ubuntu-motu was holding out the help.launchpad.net recommendations on PPA revison numbering as somehow authoritative. [00:29] <_neversfelde> ~twitter neversfelde status [00:29] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' [00:29] ~twitter update packing up after a boring day at a conference on genetically modified cryogenically frozen ninja mice who glow and fight cancer [00:29] status updated [00:29] ~twitter status seele [00:29] enjoys a drink after returning from new york :/ (3 months, 3 days, 4 hours, 13 minutes and 48 seconds ago via web) [00:29] * seele smacks forehead [00:30] ScottK: I was having fun watching that conversation [00:30] * seele really does packup. brb === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === neversfelde is now known as neversfelde_ === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde === neversfelde is now known as neversfelde_ [00:33] * Tonio_ beds... === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [00:35] is intrepid safe to update with the ppa for kde4 enabled? [00:36] * ScottK doesn't know of anyone succeeding yet. [00:36] seele had trouble not so long ago. [00:37] me too [00:39] Plasma is not working atm [00:40] hrmm ok ill wait then :) [00:41] is anybody using the xorg-edgers ppa? [00:43] silly quick question, but is the vote for the technical board that mark sent out ot ubuntu-devel-announce and ubuntu-devel-discuss only supposed to be for the ubuntu-devel team or everyone? [00:45] ah another bundle of packages [00:45] probably it is working now [00:45] jjesse-dell9: ubuntu-dev (which is MOTU and core-dev both) [00:46] ScottK ah thanks, was a bit confused by the email going out to such a big list and who was able to vote [00:47] it's rather odd that we're only voting for 1 person [00:47] a year or so ago Mark said he wanted the TB to be ~ 5 people [00:47] and instead we just get to replace mjg59 [00:47] yay, Plasma is back [00:48] LaserJock: i dont understand either [00:48] neversfelde: after what? [00:48] LaserJock: I think it's great to have an actual vote [00:49] ScottK: I suppose, not a a big one, but I guess it's better than nothing [00:49] "pick between two" [00:49] First time for TB. [00:50] LaserJock: latest Update via the experimental repo [00:50] neversfelde: k, cool, I'll give it a go then [00:50] neversfelde: must have been python-kde4 [00:51] LaserJock: yes, should be the reason [00:51] who was working on ufw-kde? was that rgreening? [00:51] ScottK: that is good, but I think I'd rather have a confirmational vote on 3 new people :-) [00:51] especially if there was a community person in the 3 [00:51] jjesse-dell9: yeah.. kuser and puthon-kde4 didnt upgrade [00:52] seele: hrmm so should i wait or should i go? [00:52] jjesse-dell9: just apt-get update and look to make sure nothing's being held back [00:53] LaserJock: is python-kde4 why plasma is crashing? [00:53] seele: I think it must be [00:53] python-kde4 was not updated, because kdepim was missing [00:53] seele: neversfelde updated that an kusers and now he's got python [00:54] * ScottK dinners [00:54] it is available now and plasma is working again [00:54] bah, s/python/plasma/ [00:55] ah cool.. more updates [00:55] I love KDE 4.2 [00:55] looks like nothing is being held back so away i go [01:02] Glad to see that that last copy batch worked. [01:02] * nhandler really despises the ppa copy system [01:05] yaay my kde is back [01:05] jjesse-dell9: now it seems safe [01:07] hrmm dropbox can run under kde as long as gdm is being used [01:10] jjesse-dell9: it doesn't work without gdm? [01:10] LaserJock: corrrrect [01:11] bummer [01:11] LaserJock: none of my files were getting updating until i configured gdm instead of kdm [01:11] odd [01:12] apprantly it needs nautlius [01:13] dont know for sure [01:13] jjesse-dell9: I know it modifies the nautilus right click menu [01:13] right [01:13] but I wouldn't think gdm = nautilus [01:13] LaserJock: I'm not sure why it needs gdm [01:14] me either but now it works [01:17] Time to see how rc1 works for me [01:17] rc1 of? [01:17] problems with xinerama are not solved [01:18] hum.. where is the wlalpaper installed. it didnt show up [01:18] tha wallpaper is mhhh [01:18] no way.. i like it [01:18] we call it "Geschmacksache sagte der Affe" :) [01:18] which means.. [01:19] sneeze? [01:20] taste, says the monkey and bites into the soft soap [01:20] probably [01:20] you cannot translat it I think [01:22] haha [01:22] my father loves this saying and he has birthdy today. 60 years [01:24] jjesse-dell9: I just tried dropbox here with kdm and it worked [01:25] Well, kubuntu is running great on my laptop now. I think I'll have to stick with it :) [01:25] win [01:25] kubuntu++ [01:26] nhandler: I'm getting that feeling as well [01:27] hehe [01:27] LaserJock: hrmm somethings is wierd it wouldnt update any files for me [01:27] jjesse-dell9: What wouldn't? [01:28] none of my files would update, like i would update a file on my windows box and it wouldnt copy over to my kubuntu box [01:29] jjesse-dell9: I just tried adding a file on my kubuntu box. I suppose it could be just a one-way problem [01:30] LaserJock: so you added a file and it is updated now on the dropbox side of things as well? [01:30] yeah [01:30] I checked on the web interface [01:31] I have gdm installed, but it's not running [01:31] interesting [01:38] bah, kdebase-workspace is FTBFS on amd64, no wonder I was having problems [01:38] so whos watching american idol besides me tonight? [01:38] jjesse-dell9: My brother is [01:38] my wife is in the hotel room so i am [01:41] Deutschland such den Superstar is hard enough [01:41] my girlfriend is watching that shit, but I never would [01:42] * JontheEchidna realizes he never did reboot [01:42] Neither did I. I have the little notification telling me to do so [01:43] i take it deutschland such den superstar is the german version of idol? [01:43] brb [01:43] jjesse-dell9: yes it is [01:43] python-kde4-dev: Depends: python-kde4 (< 4:4.1.96-0ubuntu1.1~) but it is not going to be installed [01:43] and it is as bad as the american version [01:44] LaserJock: Intrepid? [01:44] Jaunty [01:44] amd64? [01:44] yeah [01:44] * nhandler goes to see if it has built [01:45] * neversfelde goes to bed [01:45] it said it built yesterday [01:45] n8 everyone [01:45] and it looks to me like kdebase-workspace was started after, so I don't get it [01:45] LaserJock: it was [01:46] so why wouldn't it have found it :( [01:47] It looks like aside from a few plasmoids, the kde packages for amd64 have built [01:47] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.96-0ubuntu2/+build/836383 [01:48] not so nhandler [01:48] shouldnt the reboot notifier come up after the process of updating is done [01:49] jjesse-dell9: heh, that's a good point. if somebody got antsy they could reboot in the middle [01:49] Hmm, everything's cool except kdm is now using plastique [01:49] apachelogger: ^ [01:49] nhandler: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending&start=500&batch=50 [01:49] totally i almost hit it but then switched over to the konsole and noticed the upgrade still going [01:50] builds of kdeutils, kdeplasma-addons, kdesdk, kdedmin, kdetoys, -workspace, -runtime have yet to be built [01:50] for amd64, that is [01:51] Yeah, I had the wrong filter option ;) [01:51] * nhandler liked thinking everything built [01:57] hrmm ok back [01:57] whats the name of the default background? is it air? or something like that? [01:59] Air, yes [01:59] jjesse-dell9: btw, is kickoff still too small? [01:59] * JontheEchidna remembers a bug report you filed about that [01:59] JontheEchidna: nope its been scaling correct for awhile, didnt i close th report? [02:00] * JontheEchidna checks [02:00] if not, please do [02:00] ok, closing now [02:00] nhandler: so can you figure out why -workspace didn't build? it looks to me like it should have [02:01] LaserJock: it did build, this is a re-build [02:02] there was a flaw with a modified kdm.init script which would have been bad news [02:13] vorian: What was that emerald app for kde you were talking about? choqok and a few other applications have ugly windows that I want to fix [02:13] kde-style-dekorator \o/ [02:13] Was it backported to intrepid? [02:13] er, no [02:13] let me work on that [02:14] :D [02:14] nhandler: it's in the kubuntu-members ppa iirc [02:14] * vorian checks [02:14] vorian: For intrepid? [02:14] nope, nevermind [02:16] it's kwin-style-dekorator [02:16] JontheEchidna: Aside from looking ugly, choqoK runs fine on Intrepid. I put up a copy in my PPA, but it is identical to the jaunty version [02:16] nhandler: It'd been backported once, if it needs updating, please file a backports bug. [02:17] ScottK: What was backported? kwin-style-dekorator? [02:17] ScottK: no backport exists [02:17] NCommander: choqoK [02:17] Urgh. [02:17] ScottK: Where? intrepid-backports? [02:17] nhandler:^^^ [02:17] oh, yeah [02:17] IIRC. [02:18] that was done yesterday [02:18] ScottK: Ok, thanks. I really didn't look hard. I'll get the backports version [02:26] hrmm kontact is crashing everytime i open it up now that ive restarted [02:26] jjesse-dell9: what version is it at? [02:27] vorian: mysql bug or amarok bug: Bug #316957 [02:27] Launchpad bug 316957 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.30-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: 子进程 post-installation script 返回了错误号 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316957 [02:27] * vorian checks [02:27] * ScottK notes that vorian is now and forever more the amarok packaging expert. [02:27] kontact is version 1.3 [02:27] heh [02:27] :) [02:28] jjesse-dell9: I sorta meant apt-cache policy kontact :P [02:28] oh sorry [02:28] JontheEchidna: 4.1.96-0ubuntu1-intrepid1-ppa2 [02:29] hmm, and kdepimlibs5? [02:29] 4.1.96-0ubuntu-intrepid1-ppa1 [02:30] interesting, what is the difference between ppa1 and ppa2? [02:30] kdepim probably had to be uploaded twice [02:30] ScottK: i would bet $100 smackers that this is due to 5.0 being built already, and 5.1 in the wings - so we have libclientmysql15/16 conflicts that don't actually exist yet [02:30] that shouldn't be the issue though [02:30] this makes the crash somewhat puzzling though [02:31] vorian: Mark in the bug then please. [02:31] will do [02:31] ok, I'm still stuck on why -workspace FTBFS [02:31] i thi9nk the problem is in kmail [02:31] * LaserJock feels like he's missing something [02:32] kmakmail [02:32] Kde4rc1 rocks, thank you guys! [02:32] jjesse-dell9: kmail works here :D [02:33] * JontheEchidna away for a bit [02:33] bummer, just running kmail and it crashes as well [02:33] Hi. RSSNOW and the News plasmoids do not fetch the RSS Feeds in 4.2RC. The same problem existed in 4.2B2 and had been reported. [02:34] sock_file=/home/jonathan.kde/socket-dell-9/kdeinit4__0 [02:35] ScottK: amarok will need rebuilding, since it pulls in libmysqlserver15-dev [02:36] anyone having issues with the weather applet not updating? [02:38] maybe because the temperature doesn't change all the time? [02:39] shows all 0 [02:40] works properly here [02:41] try changing the location [02:41] it seems to work her [02:41] +e [02:43] hrmm i think the problem is with noaa? or whatever the us data source is [02:43] NCommander: I lied earlier about the pbuilder issue. I get a bunch of Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com' messages [02:45] Anyone else without working RSS plasmoids? [02:47] every folder but my inbox (gmail over imap) works correctly [02:48] jjesse-dell9: I'm using NOAA [02:48] my gmail over imap works correctly [02:49] gargh must be me [02:49] jjesse-dell9: I think you're just special :p [02:49] probablly should go to be bed then :) [02:50] thanks LaserJock i think you're special as well [02:50] hello, plasma crash when I add comics to comics applet [02:50] torkiano: I got that as well [02:51] antiquark: RSSNOW just sits there with "fetching feeds" is that what you get? [02:53] Oh [02:53] apparently the rss engine will only build if kdepimlibs are present, but cmake doesn't say anything at all if they aren't [02:53] oh goodness [02:54] yeah :/ [02:54] JontheEchidna: we have to wait for all of 4.1.4 to build before the rest of amd64 is done [02:54] holy damn [02:55] JontheEchidna: that affects me too? [02:55] yeah, the rss dataengine isn't being built in our packages [02:57] JontheEchidna: ok, good work anyone (not everything can be perfect ;-)) [02:59] LaserJock: yes that's what I get === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [04:09] vorian: Universe isn't frozen, so you can upload it again anytime. [04:10] right-o [04:10] i didn't even notice networkanager 0.7 is in the pipes [04:14] Been for a while [04:14] no, i mean at this moment, waiting to be built [04:14] * vorian is somewhat tiredish [04:16] Then go to bed vorian, it is 11:15 your time [04:16] Hobbsee: Is there any chance you could rescore kdebase-workspace on amd64? It's kind of holding up the train. [04:56] anybody around running Jaunty amd64? [04:58] I am [04:58] haven't upgraded recently with my kubuntu desktop though [05:01] nixternal: you running it right now? [05:01] nixternal: We want to know why python-kde4 is currently uninstallable. [05:01] don't have it turned on [05:01] nixternal: get with it MAN! [05:01] Would you try and install it and see why it says no? [05:01] in jaunty? [05:01] * LaserJock gets out the whip [05:01] * nixternal fires up kubuntu jaunty amd64 [05:03] I love how fast kubuntu jaunty fires up on my x86_64 box [05:03] 2941kB/s [05:03] gotta love that [05:04] umm, I take it I shouldn't be dist-upgrading in jaunty yet, as it wants to remove a bunch of stuff [05:04] Like Gnome? [05:05] How's that month of Gnome [05:05] LaserJock: what do you want me to check out? [05:05] ScottK: I can't install python-kde4 as it is already installed and is being held back [05:05] dist-upgrade wants to remove a lot of stuff that I don't want being removed right now [05:05] nixternal: what Scott said [05:05] OK. Can haz lizt? [05:05] seems like the kde4.2 stuff hasn't all built yet [05:06] !paste [05:06] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [05:06] nixternal: Do you that python-kde4-dev installed ? [05:06] no [05:06] nixternal: what does it say when you just do apt-get upgrade python-kde4 ? [05:06] n [05:06] err [05:07] wrong keyboard [05:07] LaserJock: If he tries to install the -dev I think the list of what it wants to remove will be very instructive. [05:07] yeah [05:07] I just installed python-kde4-dev without any problems [05:08] Argh. [05:08] OK. Then the what it wants to remove if you upgrad python-kde4? [05:08] upgrad/upgrade [05:08] python-kde4: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.85-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [05:09] interesting [05:10] dist-upgrade == kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons kubuntu-desktop ---- REMOVED [05:10] ah hah [05:10] kdebase-runtime is not built [05:10] well that's not good [05:10] it's still in the queue [05:11] so when that gets built then python-kde4 becomes installable and kdebase-workspace will build :-) [05:11] That's not so bad. [05:12] NCommander: I looked at the armel build failure log for kde4libs. i saw qreal and flet. How's your armel box doing now? [05:13] 59% [05:13] kdebase-runtime's ETA is 8 hours and kdebase-workspace's is 11 hours [05:13] It will be at the point of failure tommorow [05:16] LaserJock: We could ask Hobbsee to rescore them. [05:16] as long as they get scored together [05:16] :-) [05:18] * ScottK knows exactly how many uploads he did today because he got one armel build failure mail per upload. [05:19] heh [05:46] #313318 [05:46] hm [05:46] bug #313318 [05:46] Launchpad bug 313318 in kdebase-workspace "LCD Weather, RSSNOW and News applet don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313318 [06:01] ooooh new KDM wallpaper [06:10] Does it make sense to make a post about the RC ? [06:36] ScottK: hrm? [06:36] Hobbsee: Please? [06:37] * ScottK guesses those builds are currently on the critical path for the Alpha release. [06:38] ScottK: what do you care about? armel? [06:38] Hobbsee: amd64. kdebase-workspace and kdebase-runtime. [06:39] oh, i see. [06:39] We're currently totally dean on armel due to kde4libs FTBFS that needs someone who actually knows what they are doing to fix (i.e. not me). [06:39] dean/dead [06:40] fair enough [06:41] NCommander: can't fix it, i take it [06:41] * Hobbsee inserts a $, to make the script work better. [06:41] NCommander is having armel hardware problems. [06:42] No one else working on Kubuntu has any AFAIK. [06:42] * Hobbsee scratches head [06:42] oh. I think hte heat is effecting me. [06:49] ScottK, its working fine [06:49] ScottK, I just had an out of date compiler [06:49] Ah. [06:49] ScottK, and I just confirmed the FTBFS :-) [06:49] Now to cook a fix [06:49]