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| === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell | ||
| barry | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
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| barry | mooooootbooottt! | 15:00 |
| barry | anyway, welcome everyone to this week's ameu reveiwer's meeting. who's here today? | 15:00 |
| abentley | me | 15:00 |
| bac | me | 15:00 |
| mars | me | 15:01 |
| EdwinGrubbs | me | 15:01 |
| sinzui | me | 15:01 |
| adeuring | me | 15:01 |
| flacoste | me | 15:01 |
| gary_poster | me | 15:01 |
| allenap | me | 15:02 |
| adeuring | barry: shouting at machines can have bad side-effects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4 | 15:02 |
| barry | adeuring: will check that out later :) | 15:02 |
| danilos | me | 15:03 |
| barry | [TOPIC] agenda | 15:03 |
| barry | * Roll call | 15:03 |
| barry | * mars to stop ocr, will review js on call until more reviewers are trained | 15:03 |
| barry | * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda) | 15:03 |
| barry | * Action items | 15:03 |
| barry | * Mentoring update | 15:03 |
| barry | [TOPIC] * mars to stop ocr, will review js on call until more reviewers are trained | 15:03 |
| barry | so. mars is going to stop doing regular ocr for a while, but he will be doing js reviews on call. this will last until we have more js reviewers trained up to spread the load | 15:04 |
| barry | my only concern is ocr coverage for thursdays | 15:05 |
| mars | well, we have experienced JS reviewers - they're just spread out :) | 15:05 |
| barry | since there's no euro coverage on thursdays | 15:05 |
| barry | mars: ah | 15:05 |
| danilos | mars: are you really happy with allowing review requests to come at any time? that might be a bit hard on you | 15:05 |
| danilos | (i.e. I'd suggest keeping a time slot as well, and allowing pre-arrangements in other cases) | 15:06 |
| mars | danilos, I find myself doing so anyway, for the YUI integration. Ironcially, I hope that this frees up more time to code :) | 15:06 |
| danilos | mars: right, if that's the case, go for it :) | 15:06 |
| mars | danilos, it's only temporary, until some more YUI code goes through review with the AJAX team. Then I'll switch back. | 15:07 |
| danilos | barry: early hours of euro coverage are usually not very busy (at least that's my experience on tuesdays) | 15:07 |
| mars | barry has left the building... | 15:07 |
| gmb | me | 15:08 |
| danilos | gmb: ok, we hear you ;) | 15:08 |
| mars | ok, well, barry was concerned that we may be thin for reviewers | 15:09 |
| mars | that puts the Thursday/West review load on cprov | 15:09 |
| danilos | I can myself switch to Thursdays, though that leaves Tuesday euro slot empty | 15:10 |
| * mars checks the ReviewerSchedule | 15:10 | |
| danilos | though, we've got two "west" reviewers (rockstar and bac) | 15:10 |
| bac | i think tuesdays would be sufficiently covered | 15:10 |
| intellectronica | me too (sorry i'm late) | 15:10 |
| danilos | agreed, so I'll just switch over to Thursdays, but starting next week :) | 15:11 |
| mars | danilos, cool. I've found myself doing Euro reviews when I start my shift, so maybe you can start them even earlier. | 15:12 |
| cprov | danilos: nice! | 15:13 |
| danilos | cprov: you are still on your own this week, but week 3 should be easier for you :) | 15:13 |
| mars | so, we are agreed then? | 15:14 |
| cprov | danilos: let's hope so :) | 15:14 |
| mars | 3 | 15:14 |
| mars | 2 | 15:14 |
| mars | 1 | 15:15 |
| danilos | I've already updated the ReviewersSchedule | 15:15 |
| danilos | :) | 15:15 |
| mars | danilos, thank you | 15:15 |
| mars | [AGREED] Danilo to move to the Thursday/Euro review slot | 15:15 |
| mars | ok, so what's next? | 15:16 |
| gary_poster | Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda) | 15:16 |
| gary_poster | [TOPIC] * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda) | 15:17 |
| abentley | Have people been trying out bzr send? | 15:17 |
| bac | abentley: yes! love it. | 15:17 |
| mars | abentley, yes! It doesn't like unicode emails :( | 15:17 |
| allenap | Yes, it's cool. | 15:17 |
| mars | but it's awesome to use | 15:17 |
| * gmb just used it for the first time. Looks cool. | 15:18 | |
| abentley | Cool. I hope to get it supporting bundles soon. | 15:18 |
| bac | abentley: if you use 'editor' could it be made to save a copy of the MP you write in the directory, like review-submit did? | 15:18 |
| abentley | So then you don't need to create a branch even. | 15:18 |
| mars | barry! | 15:18 |
| barry | jeebus. xchat gave me no indication i wasn't logged in | 15:18 |
| danilos | bzr send is on my agenda to try out today or tomorrow (I have your instruction loaded in one window :) | 15:18 |
| barry | i saw my messages but nothing by anyone else | 15:19 |
| barry | i thought you all were ignoring me ;) | 15:19 |
| abentley | bac: I imagine it could. | 15:19 |
| barry | what's the last thing you saw from me? | 15:19 |
| bac | 10:00:38] <barry> mooooootbooottt! | 15:19 |
| abentley | bac: I had quite a lot of hate for that feature, because I couldn't commit --strict after that. | 15:19 |
| gary_poster | barry: mars: ah | 15:19 |
| danilos | barry: your behind on the door, but that's probably not what you are actually asking | 15:19 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 15:20 |
| abentley | bac: Of course, if you use a different client, it will be in your sent items. | 15:20 |
| danilos | barry: fyi, I've switched from Tuesdays to Thursdays for OCR to help alleviate load on cprov | 15:20 |
| barry | danilos: ha ha! | 15:20 |
| barry | danilos: thanks. did you update the wiki pages? | 15:20 |
| mars | barry, and we're telling war stories for bzr send | 15:20 |
| bac | abentley: i'm just paranoid about losing work and having to re-type the MP. can work around, though. | 15:21 |
| barry | mars: excellent! are people using bzr send for mps now? | 15:21 |
| danilos | barry: we've moved on to peanut gallery where abentley is showing off his bzr send magic | 15:21 |
| * barry will have to look at the logs | 15:21 | |
| abentley | bac: You can certainly save it yourself... | 15:22 |
| bac | abentley: that's the work-around i mentioned. | 15:23 |
| abentley | mars: I saw the unicode thing you mentioned. Was pretty shocked that LP's simple_sendmail can't handle email ids with Unicode. | 15:23 |
| barry | abentley: we talked at one time about reviving review-submit and rebuilding it on top of 'bzr send'. does that still make sense? | 15:23 |
| mars | abentley, the OOPS comes from the Python email module I think. | 15:24 |
| * barry ducks | 15:24 | |
| mars | LP's simple_sendmail can't be blamed for that :) | 15:24 |
| sinzui | abentley: There is a mythical branch from spiv two years ago that would handle that. | 15:24 |
| abentley | barry: I think it would be much better to make "bzr send" do what we need than invent our own quirky thing that is kinda the same. | 15:24 |
| barry | barry_: your irc client sucks | 15:25 |
| barry_ | barry: i know :( | 15:25 |
| mars | LOL | 15:25 |
| abentley | mars: Python's email module supports unicode headers when used correctly. | 15:26 |
| mars | ah | 15:26 |
| danilos | we'll get to see how it all works once I give it a try :) | 15:26 |
| abentley | mars: It's just a bit of a hassle to use it correctly. | 15:26 |
| barry | abentley: send would have to grow some hook points perhaps. e.g. to do the lint checking and cover.txt prompting, etc. is that feasible? | 15:27 |
| mars | danilos, it sends the mail and such, but you get this wayward mail after-the-fact. | 15:27 |
| abentley | barry: I think so. | 15:27 |
| mars | danilos, maybe it's trying to archive the mail or something when it blows up | 15:27 |
| danilos | mars: right, I'll pay close attention to see what's happening once I get to it | 15:27 |
| barry | abentley: cool. here's to hoping there's a week 0 soon :) | 15:28 |
| barry | shall we move on to other topics? | 15:29 |
| barry | [TOPIC] action items | 15:30 |
| barry | i have made no progress on my two | 15:30 |
| barry | flacoste: any progress on API reviewer cheat sheet? | 15:30 |
| flacoste | barry, no i suck | 15:31 |
| barry | no worries :) | 15:31 |
| flacoste | well | 15:31 |
| flacoste | i should | 15:31 |
| flacoste | sucking like that 4 meeting in a row isn't good | 15:32 |
| flacoste | i should do it | 15:32 |
| barry | flacoste: kfogel has been making a lot of great progress on the dev wiki | 15:32 |
| flacoste | or either find somebody else to do it | 15:32 |
| flacoste | i saw | 15:32 |
| kfogel | oh, barry et al: I meant to ask if people are happy with the direction in the dev wiki | 15:32 |
| barry | cool. we'll just keep it on the agenda for now anyway | 15:32 |
| barry | kfogel: in general, yes. i found it a bit hard to find the pages i was looking for, but mostly because they'd been renamed (not that that reorg is a bad thing) | 15:33 |
| barry | kfogel: i think the thing that would /really/ help me is some progress on the outstanding dev wiki usability bugs | 15:33 |
| kfogel | barry: yes, sorry. I'm aiming it at the newcomers, not us; the inconvenience should be temporary. | 15:34 |
| kfogel | barry: oh -- are these filed issues? (I can search for them?) | 15:34 |
| barry | kfogel: oh, that's totally fine. i'll get used to it. yes, iirc they're all on the launchpad-docs project, but double check w/ mrevell | 15:34 |
| kfogel | *nod* | 15:34 |
| kfogel | will do | 15:34 |
| barry | thx! | 15:34 |
| barry | [TOPIC] mentoring update | 15:35 |
| barry | any updates from mentors or mentats? any graduations imminent? :) | 15:35 |
| allenap | I think adeuring is due to graduate... he's pretty hot on reviews. | 15:36 |
| adeuring | allenap: thanks :) | 15:36 |
| barry | excellent | 15:36 |
| barry | allenap: send me an email and i'll make it official | 15:36 |
| allenap | barry: Cool, okay :) | 15:36 |
| barry | great! well, that's all i have today. unless you have anything else, we can break now and i can spend the next 3.79 hours trying to figure out why xchat is so horribly broken for me now, and then another 6.12 days switching to irc-in-emacs only to punt on it all and stick with <cough>colloquy</cough> | 15:38 |
| gary_poster | barry: <mutter>that's what I'm using :-D </mutter> | 15:39 |
| barry | :) | 15:39 |
| barry | gary_poster: maybe i should use irooms on my iphone :) | 15:39 |
| gary_poster | heh | 15:40 |
| barry | okay then! | 15:40 |
| barry | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
| barry | thanks everyone. see you back at the ranch | 15:40 |
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