| === savvas is now known as savvas_ | ||
| === savvas_ is now known as savvas | ||
| rsc- | hi fellas! | 17:38 |
|---|---|---|
| * _MMA_ waves. | 17:41 | |
| _MMA_ | rsc-: Been pretty quiet lately. | 17:41 |
| rsc- | seems like it, yeah. | 17:42 |
| thorwil | hi rsc- | 17:42 |
| thorwil | rsc-: what are you up to these days? | 17:43 |
| rsc- | working. :/ | 17:44 |
| thorwil | not the worst option :) | 17:44 |
| _MMA_ | +1 | 17:45 |
| rsc- | though ive gotten a few hours to put together a new theme | 17:45 |
| rsc- | (but it's still in the mockup stage :p) | 17:45 |
| rsc- | :) | 17:46 |
| rsc- | http://i35.tinypic.com/qrg6l4.jpg | 17:46 |
| thorwil | rsc-: polished aluminum buttons? | 17:48 |
| rsc- | lol, yeah. | 17:48 |
| thorwil | rsc-: the flat signs on them don't work that well | 17:49 |
| rsc- | oh well, its not much but it's a bit of progress at least | 17:49 |
| rsc- | flag signs? | 17:49 |
| thorwil | rsc-: the triangles and stuff | 17:49 |
| rsc- | oh, erm, okay | 17:49 |
| thorwil | rsc-: one would expect either the metal to shine through, or the symbols to be carved | 17:50 |
| rsc- | i was trying to do an inset effect on those back/forward/stop glyphs | 17:50 |
| rsc- | ...either way, i dont think it's very good progress overall. I thought I'd get somewhere good with a "pro"-looking black/aluminum combo, but it ended up looking very mac-like | 17:52 |
| rsc- | how about elsewhere in the Ubuntu front? any updates on projects? | 17:52 |
| rsc- | ...breathe? | 17:52 |
| thorwil | good thing i don't have to mention that ;) | 17:52 |
| thorwil | rsc-: Sebastian is still filling in icons one by one | 17:53 |
| rsc- | where's the latest preview? | 17:53 |
| thorwil | while i let little things here and there keep me from finishing the svg theme file | 17:53 |
| thorwil | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions | 17:54 |
| thorwil | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons | 17:54 |
| rsc- | eep, go-previous isn't how I believe breathe should be | 17:55 |
| thorwil | it's in submissions ... it will never go elsewhere ;) | 17:56 |
| rsc- | but it seems to be going pretty nicely :) | 17:56 |
| rsc- | sigh | 17:57 |
| rsc- | i'd really like to contribute but I'd really rather work on pixels instead of vector :p | 17:57 |
| thorwil | excuses :) | 17:58 |
| * thorwil -> dinner | 17:58 | |
| _MMA_ | rsc-: Don't you owe me a Studio wallpaper? :) | 17:59 |
| * _MMA_ ducks. | 17:59 | |
| _MMA_ | And go-previous will be removed soon. he other artist has done nothing with it. | 18:00 |
| rsc- | haha :P | 18:00 |
| rsc- | i've still no idea what to do with it. | 18:00 |
| _MMA_ | Still have the emails I sent? I was just thinking something in the shape of our logo. | 18:01 |
| _MMA_ | Some kinda background. I like the feel of your original ibex. How the bg and Ibex were separate. | 18:02 |
| _MMA_ | And I like your screenshot there. Slick. | 18:02 |
| tretle | cimi , you there? | 18:37 |
| Cimi | y | 18:37 |
| tretle | I saw a post on your blog about metacity compositing from svn | 18:49 |
| tretle | http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/08/metacity-con-ombre-e-trasparenze-e-nel-repo/ | 18:50 |
| tretle | its in Italian, but I was wondering whether it was regarding transparency or fade effects for windows? | 18:51 |
| Cimi | tretle, compositing is enabled by default | 18:52 |
| Cimi | if you are not using compiz | 18:52 |
| Cimi | gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager --type bool true | 18:53 |
| tretle | enabled by default in what? | 18:54 |
| tretle | I have been using metacity-compositing for some time and was hoping that that post was about updates to it because I have noticed the same bugs in all ubuntu releases thus far and no new features seem to be developed | 18:55 |
| Cimi | tretle, that post is old | 18:58 |
| Cimi | anyway there's an interesting -but not blogged on the web- work from opened hand | 18:58 |
| Cimi | intel is sponsoring some works for a clutter backend for metacity compositing | 18:59 |
| Cimi | allowing to use opengl instead xrender | 18:59 |
| Cimi | that means more effects | 18:59 |
| tretle | also means incompatibility with more hardware | 19:00 |
| Cimi | of course | 19:00 |
| tretle | would prefer if the current xrender bugs where fixed before the clutter work is done, that way metacity gnome could use the clutter backend when available and the xrender as a fallback rather than having just clutter and a non composited backend | 19:02 |
| tretle | two of the biggest bugs to fix would be the lack of shadow effects upon restart and video overlaying gtk windows on top | 19:03 |
| Cimi | "lack of shadow effects upon restart" | 19:04 |
| Cimi | ? | 19:04 |
| Cimi | while the second bug seems more a xorg/driver issue | 19:05 |
| tretle | basically when you enable metacity-compositing from the gconf editor it adds shadows to the panels but when you restart the shadows are gone... the only way to get them back is by switching metacity-compositing off and then back on again from the gconf-editor | 19:06 |
| Cimi | where? | 19:07 |
| Cimi | on the panel? | 19:07 |
| Cimi | windows have shadows here after restart | 19:07 |
| Cimi | just the panel hasn't | 19:07 |
| tretle | yup the panel | 19:07 |
| Cimi | known bug | 19:08 |
| * Cimi -> away | 19:09 | |
| theBishop | Some application text is really faint when using the DarkRoom theme. Is there a workaround? | 20:12 |
| _MMA_ | theBishop: Depends. Sometimes it's the app doing something non-standard. Most things have been well-tested but there will always be a few cases. What app? | 20:16 |
| _MMA_ | theBishop: You also might wanna search Launchpad to see if the bug is reported. | 20:16 |
| theBishop | _MMA_, it's basically any time the app has application text on a white background. Compiz Settings Manager, the preferences menu in Firefox, the tree-view in pgAdmin3, et al | 20:18 |
| _MMA_ | Known issues I'm afraid. Patches have been sent to Compiz Settings Manager (and gnome-control-center as they share similar code) but nothing has been accepted. | 20:20 |
| theBishop | so it's not something that can be changed by GTK or the theme engine? | 20:22 |
| _MMA_ | No | 20:22 |
| theBishop | determine the background and default the font color to black if the background is not standard | 20:23 |
| _MMA_ | It often comes down to app writers assuming the text is always dark. | 20:25 |
| _MMA_ | As things are, nothing can be done other than send patches upstream. Hope they take 'em. | 20:25 |
| theBishop | _MMA_, so the issue is the app is overriding the font color, assuming a light background? | 20:28 |
| _MMA_ | No. Not overriding it, using certain widgits and assuming text will always be dark without consideration otherwise. *Some* apps hard-cone colors but they are few. FF2 was one. Thunderbird2 is another. | 20:31 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
